Fantasy Football Today - Best/Worst Playoff Schedules, Trade Targets, WAS-PHI and Fantasy Cops! (11/13 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

We start out by grading your trades (3:10) and assessing the values of players like Tyreek Hill, George Pickens, Tyrone Tracy Jr., Calvin Ridley and Travis Kelce. Within this, we talk about upcoming s...chedules for these players ... News and notes (15:00) including our evaluation of Caleb Williams and his future. Then we give you some buy low (25:10) and sell high (32:30) players. It's time to buy low on Breece Hall and Josh Jacobs. It's time to sell Isiah Pacheco. In fact, we talk a lot about the Chiefs backfield and what to expect ... Previewing Commanders-Eagles (42:15)! We are pumped for this game, but are we pumped for a Commanders running back or for DeVonta Smith? We also have a bonus Fantasy Cops (54:50) and a comprehensive schedule breakdown (58:10) as we tell you which players have the best and worst matchups rest of season ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:38 It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays at his feet. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Well, hello everybody. Happy Wednesday. Happy hump day. It is fantasy football today presented by FET MGM, the sports book born in Vegas. And my mind is completely blown because I just looked at a fab report and someone in the FFT open and my FFT open division got Audric Estime for $100 out of $100, which is crazy on two accounts. One, this person who is in first place, so I can't really criticize too much, has not
Starting point is 00:01:17 spent a single dollar in fab all year. So that's insane. But also just spent all of it on Audric Estimé. That is insane-er about that. More insane? Insane-er, Dave, it's a word. Insane-er and the brain-er? It's not a word. Welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:01:35 We're gonna talk trade today. We're gonna start out by grading your trades, which I think is a good way to establish the value of, you know, relevant players like Tyreek Hill and a lot of Tyrone Tracy trade talk. And we're gonna look at schedules. So Dave, every week he updates strength of schedule. I just took a look at players that have the best and the worst matchups at running back quarterback and wide receiver rest of season. And that's based on mostly
Starting point is 00:02:01 just based on fantasy points allowed. So it's not really all that subjective. I made a couple of adjustments, but we'll see the players that you need to know about. Like Tyrone Tracy actually shows up as a player that has multiple bottom 10 matchups in the fantasy playoffs. Does that even matter? He's got, let's see, he's got the Ravens, the Falcons, and the Colts, I believe, in the fantasy playoff.
Starting point is 00:02:26 So Falcons are 10th against running backs. Ravens, we know are tough. Anyway, stuff like that. You ready to get started? Let's grade some trades. Yeah. Let's get it started in here. Also very excited for Thursday Night Football.
Starting point is 00:02:38 We'll talk about that game. Here's a quick round of grade the trade from Twitter. Nate Lane, not that Nate, Nate Lane said, I traded Doudel and DJ Moore for Deebo Samuel. He went A plus. Pete Farmer has been offered. Pete. Yeah. What's up, Pete? Offered Marvin Harrison Jr. and Chase Brown for Aaron Jones. I would accept. Yeah, this is not help me make a trade. This is grade the trade Pete.
Starting point is 00:03:10 You need to follow the rules, make the trade, then send it to us. But if we graded it. Shouldn't you get it graded before you make it? Well, grade it now. It's an A plus. Harrison and Brown for Aaron Jones. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Okay, let's get to some comfort. I'm surprised he even sent that in. He says he doesn't make a lot of trades. He says I don't do trades often. So okay. Well, when it's that obvious, it's a yes. Well, and that's just you guys value Chase Brown as a stud, right? Yes. Biggest mover in the trade. Both RV2s. Yeah, and you're getting Harrison on top of it. All right, Jamie's here. Kyle Cooper wants to know, grade the trade, Jordan Love and Jonathan Taylor for Kirk Cousins, Tony Pollard and Calvin Ridley.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Probably comes out to fair on the trade chart, but I don't know if they're having Love and Taylor. Okay, so C, it's pretty even, we're saying. So it's Jordan Love and Jonathan Taylor for cousins Pollard and Ridley. I would say and then to bring up Ridley here, love his schedule going forward. His opponents rank 30th, 24th, 18th, 27th, 20th, 21st, and 27th rest of season. Every single opponent, 18th or worse
Starting point is 00:04:28 against opposing wide receivers. I had highlighted Ridley Dave as one of the best schedules going forward. I don't know if you had the same. Yes, third best schedule, according to the fantasy strength of schedule, and second best in weeks 15 through 17. And we've got a game of him playing well with Will Levis.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And that was before the garbage time touchdown. So I think you can start to be cautiously optimistic about Calvin Ridley moving forward, but shouldn't be surprised if he has a couple of dud games between now and week 15. Joreen is trading Tyreek Hill and Zach Ertz for Jalen Waddle, J., JK Dobbins, and Brian Thomas Jr. So the chart likes it just because I think there's enough value still for
Starting point is 00:05:19 Dobbins and Brian Thomas Jr. to more than outweigh Tyreek Hill. I mean, it's just, I was like, is there one of those five players that I'm excited to have on my fantasy football team right now? Right. So are you just kind of swapping headaches here? Well, you're obviously trading Tyreek for Dobbins. That's the, that's the deal. That's the main part of it. Right. But I Brian Thomas Jr. might have some good moments between now and the rest of the way. He might, but I mean, Mack Jones is not going to exactly make people feel comfortable to start bright times, Jr. Times. And we don't know Trevor Lawrence's status, right? I
Starting point is 00:05:50 mean, they have a bye next week. At this point, you should assume Trevor Lawrence is not playing this season. Now, I will say Dobbins is a guy who has a lot of good run defenses left on the schedule. Cincinnati's run defense has gotten pretty good. We know Baltimore's run defense is good. The Falcons have a solid run defense. Not great. It's okay. It's above average. Kansas City best run defense in football. Those are his next four matchups. Then he gets in the playoffs. He gets three teams that struggle against running backs, but Tampa Bay. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:06:17 they struggle against running backs, Tampa Bay. Denver, Denver actually has a pretty good run defense. They give up about four yards per carry, which is really good this year. And then New England should be a good matchup in week 17. But Dobbins has struggled against tough run defenses and he has a lot of them coming up. So that's kind of the- He also has competition again. Yes, he does.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Well, how much of last week is gonna carry over week to week? Was that just about getting Gus Edwards back into the swing of things? And next week it'll be a Dobbins game? Could it be a hot hand approach each week? Or are we really looking at Gus Edwards back into the swing of things and next week it'll be a Dobbins game? Could it be a hot hand approach each week? Or are we really looking at Gus Edwards and J.K. Dobbins splitting carries
Starting point is 00:06:50 and they try and manage the two of their older backs for as long as they're playing football this season? I think, like even if you look at before Gus Edwards got hurt, they were pretty much splitting carries. It was just that Dobbins was really good and Gus was really terrible, but the number of rush attempts were pretty similar.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Yeah, but didn't it seem like they were kind of phasing Gus out though after the first first because he was struggled. He was he stunk. He stunk. It was definitely moving in that direction but to Heath's point that was the early season scenario of both of them sharing touches and Dobbins just outperforming Edwards. I wonder how we feel about Edwards if he gets the goal line plunge instead of Hassan Haskins. And now you're talking about 10 for 55 and a goal line score. It just feels like to Dave's point, they're trying to see their path and their path is to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And so you want to make sure Dobbins gets you there or Dobbins is there when you get there. And so can you lean on Edwards a little bit more because you clearly have seen what Dobbins can be when he's getting all that work. And so I said it yesterday, I said it last couple of weeks, like he was approaching and now he's passed his season high or career high in carries for a season. You know, this is gotta be a little bit concerned about Dobbins, you know, is he going to hold up?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yep. And so I think everybody here would agree that his value sank last week. Dobbins value sank last week. So let me run some names past you guys. Who would you rather have in non PPR rest of the way? Cause I think you'd take Marvin Harrison over Dobbins and full PPR, but tell me if I'm wrong, but in non PPR, Marvin or Dobbins, who would you rather have the rest of the way. Cause I think you'd take Marvin Harrison over Dobbins in full PPR, but tell me if I'm wrong, but in non PPR, Marvin or Dobbins, who would you rather have the rest of the way? Dobbins. Dobbins.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah. And that's how I feel about it. Let's move up a little bit. What about Mooney? Mooney Marvin. Oh, okay. So then you would definitely take Mooney ahead of J.K. Dobbins the rest of the way, non PPR. I would probably take Dobbins, but.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah. Same for me, Dobbins. I mean. Non PPR, but half or full. It's really hard. Like what are 10% of people playing on PPR anymore? I think I'm praying on non PPR values. Is it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:55 All right, let's go to our next one here. But just to summarize. I almost think that Dobbins, if you can get them cheap enough right now, is a good buy low. All right. Well, just to summarize Tyreek Hill or J.K. Dobbins rest of season.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I would rather have Dobbins. Tyreek probably Tyreek. All right. Next email or next grade the trade from Max Devante Adams and Kyle Pitts for Travis Kelsey. I have neighbors Pickens Downs and McConkie in a two receiver league. Adams and Pitts for Kelsey. Love it. Hey, if I had to grade it, I'd probably give it like a B.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Because you'll probably get more points out of Adams and Pitts. But you'll also have like, a headache over those two guys every week. Yeah, this is consolidating, right? And yes, that's what it is tight end. Okay. Now do you have with neighbors Pickens Downs and McConkie? Do you have two reliable receivers there? I think definitely with Pickens. I hope you have. Yes, the answer is yes. Dylan traded George Pickens and Jacoby Myers for Tyreek Hill. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't like that. Yeah, we like picking straight up better than Hill, right? rest of season. Yes. Yeah, right now. I do. Do we like Myers better than Hill
Starting point is 00:10:11 rest of season? I do. Full PPR. Absolutely. He's break the tie Myers or Tyree kill recipe. I'd probably still go Tyree, but they're both around 15 probably. All right, I'll do one more here. Non PPR. One of the 10 percenters. Well, we had 10 10 grade the trades here and one of them was not PPR. There you go. Tyrone Tracy from Mike Evans. I'll take Evans. He's my he's my like he got one more week before he comes back and is we hope I'm gonna I'm gonna roll with Heath here I think Evans is the better one to have in PPR oh it's non PPR still Evans are you guys confident
Starting point is 00:10:53 in Tyrone Tracy moving forward he's one when I really wanted to talk about here upcoming schedule Tampa Bay 27th against running backs Dallas 28th New Orleans 29th Wow that's his next three games it's awesome yes But then it's Baltimore at Atlanta and then the Colts in week 17. Depends how you feel about Atlanta. They're technically a top 10 defense against running backs. They don't give up a lot of touchdowns, but this is the lowest scoring team in football.
Starting point is 00:11:16 So keep that in mind. Yeah, it's obviously gonna be contextual, you know, what you're talking about and what his role is on your fantasy team, because for a lot of people, It's obviously going to be contextual, you know, what you're talking about and who he what his role is on your fantasy team, because for a lot of people, he's been a late round addition or a waiver wire pickup. And so if I can use him in those three games for the next three weeks, when we have two weeks of miserable bi-weeks coming up, absolutely he's going to be a starter.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And then comparing him to Evans, if you tell me Evans is healthy, sure, I'll take Evans over. But given the uncertainty right now, what we're talking about here, I mean, Nico Collins is working on a five week hamstring injury, and his wasn't considered as severe as Mike Evans. It wasn't? Well, he went on IR, Evans didn't. Fair point. See, it seemed as if what happened to Evans was a little bit more serious based on the reporting. Okay. I have no idea. I'm just, yeah, just throwing that out there. There are two different guys with two different injuries. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:12:14 All right. All right. We're going to take a break. Before we do that, Heath, give us a little FFT dynasty promo. Yeah, we had Theo Griminger on this week. We talked about some of the 2024 yo-yosos guys that were moving up and down in our rankings. We can't figure out where to rank them. We talked about some by lows. He re-ranked his top five rookies. Lots and lots of fun. The four of us have a yo-yo contest. Have to do tricks with a yo-yo. Who wins? I would assume you.
Starting point is 00:12:43 have to do tricks with a yo-yo who wins? I would assume you. You would be wrong sir. Great the answer that was an F minus. I couldn't even like do a single yo-yo trick, a terrible at yo-yos. Anyway. You have a trick, I mean that's more than I can. I don't have a trick, I don't have,
Starting point is 00:12:58 all right we all suck at it. You can't make it go down and back up? Yeah. I think I might be able to make a yo-yo go down, stay there for a second and then come back up. Okay. Is that better than the other three of you? So yes, Dave wins.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Congratulations. I'm the yo-yo guy. All right. We'll be right back on fantasy football today with some news and notes and some, you know, that makes my mother yo-yo ma. We'll be right back. News and notes. The Bears fired Shane Waldron and promoted passing game coordinator,
Starting point is 00:13:29 Thomas Brown, his offensive coordinator. Heath, did you talk about Caleb Williams' dynasty value? Yes, Theo was not very optimistic. He said, it feels like we're at this point to where his value could completely sink at any moment. But I think like he's still a top 15 dynasty quarterback and probably will remain that until week one of next year. I wonder how much Trevor Lawrence's path are impacting the way it is impacting
Starting point is 00:13:57 the way that people feel about Caleb Williams, because we spent like four years saying, making excuses for Trevor Lawrence and talking about his pedigree and how good he was coming into the NFL and he'll eventually figure it out. And he never did. And I wonder if people don't wanna do that same thing to Caleb Williams. You're very hard on Trevor Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:14:15 You're very hard on him. He's not that bad. He's an average quarterback in the NFL, right? Sure. Okay. I'd say he's a little bit better than average. For we play a game called fantasy football and he was drafted it to be like the ch the one of the, one of the greats and he never delivered on that. I wasn't like he did it in one playoff case. Okay. So we agree. He's like a,
Starting point is 00:14:41 you know, he's a solid quarterback. He's a fine QB too in Superflux. He's going to be very curious to see what happens next year when Ben Johnson's his head coach. Yeah, right. Exactly. That'll be great for him. Wait, who, Ben Johnson is whose coach? Trevor Lawrence's coach. Oh, okay. I'm not sure if that's locked in.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I know that you- I don't think anything with Ben Johnson is locked in. Yeah, that's probably the best point. But it sounds like that's where he wants to be. Yeah. Now, if you're Ben Johnson, do you do you want to go to that? He's the Lions defensive quarter offensive coordinator. In this case, anyone doesn't know. Do you want to go to Chicago? Do you want to go to Jacksonville? Take your pick.
Starting point is 00:15:16 You want to go where there's no state tax and no cold and a quarterback who doesn't have a problem holding the ball too long and, you know, leaving the pocket too soon. Like, Trevor's a little more refined than Caleb Boyle. Well, he should be. He's been in the league half a decade. All the more reason to go with that quarterback instead of Caleb, who he's going to have some significant flaws. I don't think he's gotten any better since this time last year. I don't think he's gotten any better since this time last year. Like, I get that, but I also, I would think, like, if you could have three years with a quarterback on a rookie deal, that might be better than working into the $40 million Trevor Lawrence contract.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I would say this, if you're just from a dynasty standpoint, I don't think anyone should be drawing any conclusions on Caleb Williams. There was a report that I guess the Bears are concerned about his long term viability as a franchise quarterback, but I think that would be so stupid. I mean, a guy that has had his entire offensive line injured, perhaps a bad offensive coordinator, if you ask all the Twitter cops, a terrible offensive coordinator, I don't know. I mean, I think I think bad quarterbacks get coordinators fired sometimes. He hasn't played well, but he's so talented.
Starting point is 00:16:30 His arm is so, it's incredible. And who's like, come on, don't freak out over nine games or 10 games, whatever it's been like. Sure. Unless there's something going on behind the scenes that the rest of the world doesn't know. It's not just that, you're freaking out because you're seeing the guy who was picked right after him
Starting point is 00:16:47 looking like a generational talent. And you're seeing another guy in the first round, two other guys in the first round that are looking like potential future franchise guys. And you just lost to one a week ago when you couldn't do anything offensively and that guy looked pretty calm. Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:17:02 All right, Isaiah Pacheco has been designated to return from IR, but he and Dave, I don't. All right. Uh, Isaiah Pacheco, Isaiah Pacheco has been designated to return from IR, but he and Dave, I don't know if you have this as well. I think Pacheco has one of the worst schedules. Like he got it for everybody. Adam, you don't have to worry. Go ahead. No, I don't. I don't know if you agreed. I think Pacheco's schedule stinks. Basically. Um, it's not great and it's especially bad. And we've talked about this,
Starting point is 00:17:24 the fantasy playoffs. Uh, I've got it graded as the fourth worst schedule for running backs. So whether it's Pacheco or Hunt it's gonna be a tough finish to the year for Kansas City. Yeah I'll go ahead and give myself a high too. I think you try very hard to sell Pacheco off this news that he's been activated. The window has been opened because I don't even think he's a feature back probably. Jim Collison Let me tell you that I came up with this half-baked idea of, could I sell the idea to everybody watching and listening that you could trade for Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Pacheco and get them at discounts right
Starting point is 00:18:01 now? And so I reached out to a couple of fantasy managers in some of my leagues and asked, What would it take for Isaiah Pacheco? The results were ludicrous. All right, one of my, a friend of mine, Chris, asked for Sam Laporta and Jonathan Taylor for Isaiah Pacheco. I mean, it's just like absolute, no one would accept that trade. So I think people are hoping that Isaiah Pacheco, it's almost like they think that he's going to be back this week, and he's going to be back to 20 touches a game. And that's just not anywhere close to reality. I think Heath's right. You might be able to get a haul for Pacheco if you can find somebody who is willing to overpay for someone that we don't know when he's coming back. We don't know when his role is going to be. He might be limited until the playoffs. And then
Starting point is 00:18:45 even then, he's going to lose some work to Kareem Hunt. Because what's Kareem Hunt done other than, you know, is he efficient as a runner? No, but he's physically, he can catch the football. He can certainly take some work away from Isaiah Pacheco. Maybe the time is right to trade for Kareem Hunt, because there doesn't seem to be a lot of people who are interested in, in keeping him long-term, thinking that Isaiah Pacheco is right around the corner. I just, I don't know if I want to give anything up for hunt when I think I've got maybe three weeks that I might be able to start them. And then he's just a like, unless Pacheco gets hurt again. So,
Starting point is 00:19:18 what do we think? What's realistic for Pacheco coming back, Heath? My guess, and I, like, I don't have any inside sources, but my guess is they're going to take all three weeks. I don't think they're going to play him this week, because we've already heard that report. Then they've got the Panthers and the Raiders. He's coming off of a broken leg. I don't know that he's going to be 100% in his first game back. Think about the two guys that happened.
Starting point is 00:19:45 This happened to in the last two years in Tony Pollard and Tank Doe. Yeah. Yep. And for Pollard, he said it took him a year. All right. So, so listen, I don't, I think we agree. If you were telling me a chiefs running back
Starting point is 00:19:57 was going to get 20 carries, like Kareem Hunt is getting pretty much every week, we wouldn't care about the matchups. We're just not sure that that it's going to be that way that it could easily be a split. It could be right. Is that kind of that's the expectation for me. I expect it will be a split. They want Pacheco for semi finals around AFC championship game. That's what they need him for. Okay, all right. We're moving on here.. quarterback news doesn't seem
Starting point is 00:20:25 like anybody expects Daniel Jones to be the starter coming out of the by. So just prepare for a change there. Does that impact Tyrone Tracy? We know what mobile quarterbacks do for running back rushing efficiency. I expect locks going to be worse than Jones because all Brian Dables tried to do his entire time in New York is win this week. I think he would have started Drew Locke if he thought he gave him a better chance to win any of these past weeks. That I completely agree with. So Drew Locke's
Starting point is 00:20:56 probably worse and doesn't have the rushing ability to take attention up from the defense. But maybe he actually throws in the ball. Yeah, that could be possible. The Vito could do the same. The Raiders are expected to start Desmond Ritter. Does that hurt Jacoby Myers? I think it kind of does. I'd rather have been Chu. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:18 They're all not great quarterbacks. Just, I know with Mitch. I know Mitch. Volume is what I buy into with Myers. As long as he's getting eight plus targets, we're good. That's the nice thing. It's Ritter's terrible, they're just changing the middle of the game again.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Minchu will take that one guy and just give him targets. I don't know if Ritter will do that. We'll find out. Dak Prescott is out for the season. Why are you asking just about Myers? What about Bowers? I mean, yeah, it's true. Oh yeah, yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I don't know why I skipped him. Remember when Desmond redirected to Kyle Fitz? I don't love it. I don't know why I skipped him. Remember what Desmond Ritter did to Kyle Fitz? I don't love it, I don't love it. Miami right tackle Austin Jackson out for the season with a knee injury. The Dolphins also claimed Tyrell Dotson, the linebacker that Seattle just waved. And Mike McDaniel said that Raheem Mostert
Starting point is 00:21:55 is still the leader of the running back room and will be counting on him all season. Haven't they just been swapping linebackers all season, the Dolphins and the Seahawks? What was the other one? They did the Jerome Baker. Jerome Baker went from Miami to Seattle. Yeah. And then Seattle got rid of him.
Starting point is 00:22:10 They realized what he was. And now Datsun got claimed off waivers from Miami. I don't know if there was somebody else. Didn't, who was their middle linebacker last year for Seattle? That Miami was starting. Jordan Brooks. OK, yeah, they're friends. Miami and Seattle. George Brooks. Okay. Yeah, they're friends.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I'm in Seattle. George Kittle has a hamstring injury. So we're gonna keep an eye on this one. Pittsburgh edge Alex Highsmith is out this week. Could miss multiple weeks. They got the Ravens coming up this week. They're getting a little healthier at edge behind Alex Highsmith, but he will,
Starting point is 00:22:40 he's a great player and he'll be out for at least one week. Brian Robinson Jr. hopeful to play this week. Let's talk about the Thursday game here. So Brian Robinson Jr. hoping to get back on the field this week. Washington cornerback Marshawn Latimore mispracticed. Remember he has the hamstring injury and Dallas Goddard and Devontae Smith. They mispracticed on Monday. They were upgraded to limited on Tuesday.
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Starting point is 00:23:21 on any game and you'll receive up to $1,500 in bonus bets if your bet loses. Just make sure you use the bonus code fantasy when you sign up. All right, let's get into buy lows and sell highs. I'll just tell you guys we're going to do it a little bit quicker than we usually do. We usually start at the top of the show with that, but I think we've established the values of some players just to grade the trade. So we've done that, but let's do it a little bit more here.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Buy lows, sell high. Jamie, why don't you start with buy low? I would buy low on Deandre Swift with the coordinator change. You know, Thomas Brown, hopefully will lean on him as much as possible. He's coming off a down game. I think that's always a good time when you're looking at a player who's had a good body of work to say, okay, can he continue that? Or is it going to be something that's that's bad? And clearly everybody looking at the Bears right now thinks everything is bad. So there's an opportunity here to get him relatively cheap.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And I would try to do so if you possibly can. So one point against the Andre Swift, how much does this matter to you? Minnesota and Detroit, pretty good run defenses, sometimes a little inconsistent. He plays them four times before the season ends. That's great news for the receivers, but for Deandre Swift, Minnesota, Detroit, four matchups against them. Does that affect your buy low? It certainly is something you have to factor in, but you know, you're also looking at it as how much am I, how much do I have to trade away? What do I have to trade away to get them? You know, and so if it's not something that's going to break your fantasy
Starting point is 00:24:44 team, you shouldn't do that. But if you're finding a way to upgrade your team by getting Swift, then you should. Tyrone Tracy or DeAndre Swift the rest of season. Swift. I would agree. Swift. I just, I worry that the price tag for Swift is going to be too high and that he, people still have a high trade with him. Agreed. I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I do think like Tom, sorry, the Thomas, we saw it last year when he took over in Carolina, like he stayed true to his running backs. He's a former running back. And so I would imagine the very first thing he'll do is try and get Deandre Swift going even behind the substandard offensive line. Okay. Uh, Heath, by low. I, well, I said Mike Evans. Um, that's probably my, my number one target. I'm still buying low on Brice Hall also. Um, and I'd like to do it before this week, like as soon as possible. I saw a CD lamb for Brice Hall. I mean, that's just a layup, right?
Starting point is 00:25:40 For hall. Yeah. I, I also, I'm not quite as down on CD lamb. I don't think as everybody else seems to be. It was an awful game, but it's still like, he's going to get double digit targets every game. We've seen five or six games with him with Cooper rush. None of them were as bad as that one. I think CD lamb is still a by low too. Would you agree that expectations are lowered now for lamb because of the quarterback change I mean you'd almost have to right well what do you think he could average on a PPR per game basis 16 now okay and he was really close to that if he had caught the touchdown when he was blinded by the Sun
Starting point is 00:26:19 against Philadelphia last week if he catches that pass it's 15.5 PPR points so I'll change the filter on your camera to make the sun in your eyes too? Me? That was brilliant. No, it's the sun coming in from one of the windows in my house. But I should have just said I was live from... The timing could not have been better. That was great. Hey, Richard, coming to you live from AT&T Stadium in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Okay. So I want to know if you guys would have laughed at this. What the hell is going on with this? This is amazing. I want to know if you would have laughed at this. So we did, who has more on yesterday's? There's literally nothing I can do about this, by the way. This is so funny. I have no curtains on the windows in my house.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Yeah, so we did, who has more on CBS Sports Network? What were some of the, oh Heath, who has more teeth, a shark or a snail? A snail. Correct, snails have over 25,000 teeth, most of any animal, they're on their tongue though. I was gonna say, who has more shades, AT&T Stadium or 80s pop singer, Corey Hart at night?
Starting point is 00:27:21 Is that funny? My house has none. It's funny, right? JV, it's funny. You know, you know the reference. I wear my sunglasses at night. You don't really really? Yeah, no, no, I'm trying to think that what the what the number is the one to nothing.
Starting point is 00:27:40 It's him. No, no, that's the most brilliant thing at all. They have the shades. They just don't put them down because it's such an advantage to them. He wins. No, that's the most brilliant thing of all. They have the shades. They just don't put them down because it's such an advantage to them. All right. But I'm sorry, Heath, just to go back. This is about Dave's video is amazing. If you're not watching on YouTube, you have to go to YouTube.com. It's just it's just more amazing that that's exactly what he was talking about.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I know. And it's like the 26 minute mark. But he's Breece Hall or CD lamb rest of season. I'd probably take whole, but I'd like to buy low on both. Dave is with Snoop. Is that better? I'll just, I'll just be like this for the next 20 minutes. It's like, it's like Dave's running out of for hurricanes game. Yes, through the smoke. All right, Dave, who you buying low on? I got a huge list.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Hi guys. I got a huge list. Josh Jacobs is at the top of the list 15 plus touches in all, but one game 20 plus PPR points and two of his like this isn't where I'm just going to sit down. You guys are going to have to deal with the camera being like this. And I think he finished a strong.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I don't mind his schedule. I think that the Packers can lean on him. Still is their main running back. And I think you can get them at a pretty decent discount. Josh, like you've done probably 500 podcasts from that chair with that window. What like is everything okay? No, I need to go look outside
Starting point is 00:29:00 and see what's happened to the sun. The sun is now my new neighbor. I don't know. It's also hot in here. I don't know what the happened to the sun. The sun is now my new neighbor. I don't know, it's also hot in here. I don't know what the hell's going on. Maybe I should head for the hills. I don't know. All right, Josh Jacobs and? That's one.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I got a few more. Nick Chubb, same thing. I just think that he's gonna start to get more work and coming off the buy, he'll be fresher. Heath mentioned Mike Evans. I think all Tampa players are in play just because their schedule the rest of the season, I think it's good for everybody. The one that I think you can get relatively cheap and potentially end up
Starting point is 00:29:31 having a starter, maybe even evolving into a No. 2 running back the rest of the way is Bucky Irving. I think that he's going to continue to just take more work on the rushing downs away from Rashad White. You watch these guys play, Bucky's the better runner. And I think that they need to get him more involved. So I would take the chance on him if they're clear. Look, I have the sun coming into my camera and Jamie is as red as the sun when it's not. It's so funny. It's like Jamie's beaming into my house right now.
Starting point is 00:29:58 And then I, you know, the whole deal that I was gonna make about Kareem hunt and Pacheco, we talked about on the show and just the fact that people seem to be very high on Pacheco. Look at Jamie. Jamie's off screen, he's laughing so hard. This is, Jamie is chiefs red right now. I'm thinking Kareem Hunt, if you use him
Starting point is 00:30:20 for the next few weeks and you trade for him cheap because people are sour, because Pacheco is gonna come back. I think you'd just go, my sound is okay, right? Yeah, you sound great. You sound great. That's what matters, who cares how I look. It's starting to make you.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Then no one's watching the show for how I look anyway. But they should be because this is incredible. All right, let's go to some sell highs. Let's throw it over to Jamie and see if he can complete a sentence right now. Who are you selling high on, Jamie? He's crying. He's crying.
Starting point is 00:30:43 He's crying. He's crying. He's crying. Jamie,, Jamie? He's crying. Jamie, sell high. That's a joke. No. I'm trying to think what I said yesterday. I don't remember. I don't remember either.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Sell high on the UB at my house. Sell high on Dave Shades, yes, I like that. Oh my God. Let's see. All right, we'll go back to Jamie. Who are you selling high on? Dave, you're good. I gave my buy low and my sell high earlier in the show. I think it's that window up there.
Starting point is 00:31:16 What's going on with Dave's camera right now? I don't understand. No, I'm moving it. No, you're good. I'm trying to show you which window it is. Okay, you're fine. You're fine. Um.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah. You cleared up. You're good. Isaiah Pacheco. Am I? I don't know. Was my, was my cell high. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:38 All right. So, so if people, bottom line is, in case you missed the last 15 minutes, if anyone, or have been distracted, if anyone thinks that Isaiah Pacheco is coming back and winning your league, we just don't really see it I don't think he's gonna be a starting running back in fantasy Not just I don't think he's coming back and winning your league I don't think he's going to be a top 24 running back for the rest of the season or Probably even a top 24 running back from the point. He returns for the rest of the season or probably even a top 24 running back from the point
Starting point is 00:32:05 he returns for the rest of the season. Okay. And Dave, who are you selling high on? I got four names. One Bucks player that I wonder if you're... Is K.Otten a sell high guys? Knowing that Evans is coming back in his volume won't be as big. I know it's not great timing because he's coming off his worst game since Evans got her and going into his buy. Yeah. I think, uh, I think that one, like I saw in one of my dynasty league, somebody put out there three weeks ago that they would sell K dot and for a second round
Starting point is 00:32:41 rookie pick and nobody, yeah. Well, would you take a third round rookie pick for K don? Like, what am I trading a third round rookie pick and nobody. Yeah. Well, would you take a third round rookie pick for Kate on? I quote my trading a third round rookie pick for. Well, listen, if you've got a decent tight end to start in place of Otten, getting the third round rookie pick probably makes more sense long term than I think I offered Adam a second and a third round rookie pick. Um, yeah, yesterday it was an overwhelming trade. No for Quinton Johnson.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I couldn't, that's not Kate. No, I was surprised that you didn't take it. I kind of mess with my head. I w it made me think a lot and I don't like doing that with trade. So, um, I'm thinking I'm still thinking you're offering Kate Odden for his Quinton Johnson. No, I offered my second and third for Quentin Johnson and. Sean Tucker.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Sean Tucker. Yeah, I think I might do that. Cause I have McConkey. I don't think I want two chargers or servers. So, all right, any who. Few more names. Yeah, yeah, yeah, please. Brock Bowers.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah, you know, we can throw the Desmond Ritter starting situation on top of it, but if Jacobi Myers is gonna take a lot of targets, then there could be some weeks where he doesn't get a lot of targets. Still think that Brock Bowers is a top five-ish type of fantasy tight end, but if someone's overpaying because they wanna lock up their tight end spot
Starting point is 00:33:59 on their fantasy team, you can do it, and we've illustrated for the past couple of weeks now that you can find a startable tight end off the waiver wire pretty easily. And you might even see some other guys get dropped after the bye weeks wind down. Chuba Hubbard as a mega sell-high, just coming off this monster game. Jonathan, it's not even because of Jonathan Brooks, because I don't think Brooks is going to do that much. But can he be as good as he was against the Giants down the stretch? I wonder if you're OK at running back. Remember, we drafted Chuba Hubbard in like round 9, round 10. I think that he's somebody that you
Starting point is 00:34:32 could sell high on if you've got the running back depth. And maybe I just don't ever learn my lesson, guys. But Kyler Murray, no question, Top 10 fantasy quarterback, maybe even closer to like top 6. But he's coming off of a game where he ran for two touchdowns and threw for only one. And I don't know how often he's going to do that. And I wonder if he's a sell-high type of player at this point, particularly if you think you can go to your waiver wire and roll the rest of the way with some combination of Bo Nix, Russell Wilson, Justin Herbert, whoever else comes off the waiver wire. Or if you've got Kyler Murray and another quarterback, I would say now's the perfect time to trade Kyler Murray.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Certainly before the trade deadline in your league. I think it's arguable that he's coming off the best game of his career in the sense that he threw 17 straight completions and you know, he's still only through 24 passes. That's been the issue all year for Kyler. But man, he might be the number one quarterback in fantasy and the fantasy playoffs. Well, you think so? Cause again,
Starting point is 00:35:37 I see another scenario where he's not throwing that much New England at Carolina at the Rams. Your theory has been all season when he's challenged. He's he's been better when the team's been challenged. He's been there when he has to throw. Yeah. I mean, was the team challenged last week? No, but that's what I'm saying. He's coming off as his best.
Starting point is 00:35:53 It's almost like you have to count on him using his legs to have a big game. I think he could still have a 20 point fantasy game without using his legs that much. But I just like a 30 point game, something close to 30. I don't think I'm going to see that even in the time you get a player that's coming off such a spike performance, it's not a bad idea to try and sell them, but it's just a matter of you know, what what are you replacing him with? And so if you want to trust Dave's, you know, path and just play the waiver wire, you know, so you're going from Kyler to maybe Wilson to maybe Drake may to, you know, there, there, there aren't quarterbacks that have the same ceiling
Starting point is 00:36:29 that Kyler does when they're both on their games, but you can certainly get by with what else you're getting in return for color. And that's the, that's the, yeah. I do have their schedule graded top five, both for the rest of the season and the fantasy playoffs. I think we're also maybe forgetting like how many great, great, great games Kyler Murray has had and some of the stretches he's had were like six or seven weeks of averaging 30 fantasy points per game is not that unusual. He, he threw for 400 yards and three touchdowns and ran for another touchdown in the game once. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:03 He's got as much upside as anybody. Would you argue that he's got plenty of downside too? Because he's got a bunch of games this year with under 15 fantasy points and six point per passing touchdown leagues. Under 17. He's got one, two, three, four, five. The last time he scored 30 or more points. He followed that up with about 38 points or about 28 points in his next two games combined.
Starting point is 00:37:27 It's amazing. He's got five games with at least 22 and five games with under 17. All right. Well, you got to get something significant return. You know, it's you're not giving away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This isn't to say that he's gonna absolutely stink for the rest of the season. The one the one I gave yesterday is a sell I can it was Drake London
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yeah, just with tough matchup against the Broncos this week then a bye week then the Chargers. So Two weeks where he may not be useful for you Obviously one where he's not playing and then a questionable matchup against the the Chargers and again, you're not giving him away You're not trying to just trade him to trade him the example I I gave yesterday, could you turn Drake London into Nikko Collins? And that's something I would try to explore. What do you think of his schedule for the fantasy playoffs? So you've got to, you may not buy it, but Las Vegas has been one of the best against wide receivers. They are giving up the fifth fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. They haven't had tough opponents for the most part, but it is kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:38:27 So- It's like the Panthers last year. Three of his next- that's true, right. You can run on them. Three of his next four opponents are top six against wide receivers. Drake London, we're talking about Denver, Chargers, then he has Minnesota, and then Las Vegas. But after that, I mean Giants and Washington, I think he could destroy.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And he could be good against Las Vegas, but just for the record, they are really tough so far. So it's interesting, but okay, London. I thought, you know what? We'll get into that game I think tomorrow, but I thought you guys were gonna rank Mooney ahead of London this week, and I don't think you did. I do.
Starting point is 00:39:02 You do? Okay. Consensus is I think pretty close. Now I teased a wide receiver that I think has one of the toughest schedules coming up and that wide receiver is someone that we're about to talk about, Terry McLaurin because he could have the Eagles have been amazing. He has them twice and then he could have Legerrius Snead in week 13. So we'll see if anybody's worried about that.
Starting point is 00:39:28 But before we get into his long-term outlook, we have to talk about Terry McLorin's short-term outlook. Do we trust him? Not yet, Dave, because we gotta take a break and then we'll do the music. So we'll be right back on fantasy football today. Okay, Washington is at Philadelphia. Ah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I can't wait for this game.
Starting point is 00:39:48 This is how I felt last week and Thursday night football totally delivered. But I have a take. I think the Eagles are going to win by at least a touchdown. I'm feeling good about the Eagles. How are you guys feeling? They're rolling right now, so it's hard not to doubt that. Yeah, I think the one thing Washington hasn't really fixed doesn't seem is their run defense. They're rolling right now. So it's hard not to doubt that. Yeah. I think the one thing Washington hasn't really fixed doesn't seem as their run defense and
Starting point is 00:40:10 the Eagles are maybe the best run offense in the league and Jaylen hurts is playing good football too. Um, I think like this is such a fun week cause it's almost like we've got some, some divisional matchups for the MVP race. Like it's Jalen hurts and Jayden Daniels winner of this game gets to be in the race with Lamar. Then you got my homes and Alan winner gets to stay in the race with Lamar. It's a lot of fun. And it's also a lot of matchups with teams with winning records.
Starting point is 00:40:40 So a lot of good teams facing off against each other. And this is a perfect example of it really helps to have the Giants And Panthers on a buy All right, so who are the who are the tough calls in this game? Tough calls yeah, there's really only two it's whoever's running the ball for Washington and Devante Smith and maybe you could throw Dallas Goddard as a tough call too. Well it's it's the combination of Smith and Goddard right because if they both play then it's who can you trust more? Yeah right sure. I think Brian Robinson's a tough call if he plays.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I don't think Eckler's a tough call if Brian Robinson's out. But the the Eagles also on a per carry basis still not very good. But they're crushing teams. So here's the deal with the Eagles since they're by the last five games since week six, they are the best defense in football. And they're destroying teams and now four straight opponents have had 18 running back carries or fewer. And that's really low. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:49 That's not one guy getting 18. That's the entire backfield getting 18. So if it's Eckler, I mean, that could mean, you know, 13 carries for Eckler could mean 13 carries for Brian Robinson or something like that if it stays now there. Obviously, the commanders could have more carries than that, but they're crushing teams. So teams are falling behind. Hopefully, it's going to be a competitive game. Three and a half points spread, Eagles are favored.
Starting point is 00:42:09 But that is my first stat of the game. Stat of the game number one is that the Eagles are just limiting running back opportunities right now. And if Brian Robinson plays, does he crack the top 20? No. No. I'm thinking no. No, his scenario is what you want. You want Robinson to sit
Starting point is 00:42:27 so you can rely on Eckler. I mean, I'm going to tie. I'm in a PPR league and I would start in my league, Brian Robinson Jr. I'm going to start either JSN or Cedric Tillman over him as a flex. I get it. Yeah, yeah, gonna play it safe there. Now, if he doesn't play Austin Eckler, I'll just throw those guys out there. I don't have Echler. So this isn't about me, but Cedric Tillman, JSN or Austin Echler. In PPR, I'd go Tillman, Echler, Jason. I'm pretty sure I'm taking the receivers over Echler too. Heath, you've been pretty high on Echler and he's come through when Robinson's been out
Starting point is 00:43:02 in at least two, if not all three games. I think maybe the Baltimore game he struggled a bit, but would you be super high on him again? Yeah, I think I've got him 14th or something right now without Brian Robinson. So I think you're going to get 15 touches. I like your chances of getting a touchdown. Hopefully he catches a couple more passes. If Robinson plays, would you start Robinson or Ramon Dre Stevenson against the Rams? Ramon Dre. Yes, that's the one I was just like I was just looking at that RB 23 through 26 range and I think I think I'd probably have
Starting point is 00:43:36 Ramon Dre too. I would start Nick Chubb gladly over Brian Robinson. Okay, Nick Chubb is at New Orleans. And, all right, so here's, I watched some tape. I wanna see how are the Eagles pulling this off because the last five games they've held now, Amari Cooper, Malik Neighbors, Jamar Chase, Brian Thomas Jr., and C.D. Lamb to 54 or fewer yards, and only Chase scored a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:44:00 So I watched the tape of Chase, I watched the tape of Malik Neighbors, and then I went and I saw, did the numbers confirm this? And this is basically what the Eagles are doing. They're not shadowing. They're not like double teaming on every play. They don't let anything get behind them. They have, this is an insane stat.
Starting point is 00:44:14 In their last- This is a Vic Fangio defense to a tee. This in their last, yes, exactly. In their last five games, they have allowed one completion of 20 or more air yards, one. And I believe it was Jermaine Burton. The Bengals tried a deep ball to Jamar Chase. You probably remember the play.
Starting point is 00:44:32 It was batted and then intercepted. It was a great play. The Giants tried one deep ball to Malik neighbors. It was batted away. So no one's getting behind them. And additionally, their tackling has been fantastic. They are allowing, I think, the fewest yack, fewest yards after catch of any team over the last five games. So they're just not giving up any big plays. So what does this mean for Terry McLaurin,
Starting point is 00:44:52 who has been an unbelievable automatic start since week three? Does anyone have any hesitation for McLaurin? I mean, I've been starting Terry McLaurin as a number one wide receiver lately. Now he's a high-end No. 2. I can't see myself peeling away from him. And a lot of it has to do, and I think credit is, is deserved to both him and Jane Daniels. Like Daniels as a thrower has been outstanding this year. And even against tough competition, I could see McLaurin and Daniels connecting for some big gains. I, there's too much upside to just flatly say,
Starting point is 00:45:25 ah, maybe you could find three or four other wide receivers that you could start ahead of McLauren. I think he's a number two and a high end number two at that. Okay. 98 yards or a touchdown in eight straight games for Terry McLauren. And he's ranked, Dave's the lowest on him by the way, but everyone's got him between eighth and 13th
Starting point is 00:45:44 for Mclellan. To be fair, since their bye week, it's been Cincinnati and a bunch of scrubs. Who, the Eagles? Who the Phillies played, it's fair. But not scrub wide receivers necessarily. Yeah, but the quarterbacks have been terrible. Yeah, it's true, but yeah, their defense though.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I mean, again, we were, hold on. Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence and the Cowboys mess. There's one quarterback there that matters. Right. And they were, you know, a blinded window away or blind. CD lamb didn't have the touchdown because of the sun. Okay, but he still was having a bad game.
Starting point is 00:46:22 He was, but he still would have had over 15. I mean, right. This is a huge difference. He was, but he still would have had over 15, I mean, right. This is a huge difference. He was, he was wide open in the end zone. It was just dumb luck that cost him a touchdown there 99 times out of a hundred. That's a touchdown. You go back and watch that play. Lamb was open.
Starting point is 00:46:38 It's a two yard touchdown. It's not like an indictment on the Eagles defense, but if the, you know, but it's a voluminous receiver who's going to get a lot of catches and that's what McLaurin basically is. I agree. Maybe not to the same degree as Lambert. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:46:51 If the Eagles shut down Terry McLaurin, I think we have to consider them arguably the toughest or second toughest matchup for number one receivers. They're definitely tough. This isn't to undersell that their defense has not played well, but they've also just played one of the easiest stretches of schedules you could possibly find. I don't know if I agree with that. In terms of quarterbacks, yes. In terms of wide receivers, I don't know that I agree.
Starting point is 00:47:14 I mean, how does it not impact the receivers? No, it does. But you all were starting Malik neighbors that week, you know? Well, starting them and expecting them to be at their best against a good defense is not exactly the same thing. This is, I mean, what Burrow did and what Chase did was not at their best, but they still gave you production. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Chase had nine catches, 54 yards and a touchdown on 11 targets. All right. We've belabored the point. Heath, any interest in Devante Smith? In a game that could be pretty high scoring, maybe we actually get more than 25 pass attempts from Jalen Hurts. He's a low in number three for me if Dallas Goddard and he are both active. He's probably more of a high end number three, low end number two if Dallas Goddard's out.
Starting point is 00:47:58 The Washington run defense remains pretty bad. The Washington pass defense has been mostly good in the second half of the games they've played. Okay. So Brian Robinson Jr. or Devontae Smith, let's assume Goddard and Smith are both playing Brian Robinson Jr. Smith. Robinson. I'll take Smith. I'll take Smith. Okay, in the scenario Robinson's out easily. Eckler over Smith.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Yes. Yes. I think so. Devante Smith or DJ Moore against the Packers. Smith. Smith. I think I have more higher, but they're like back to back. Devante Adams or Devante Smith. Adams.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Devante. Adams. Devontae. Adams. Dave, man, I don't know what was happening when your camera got all foggy. And then we're going to start both of the quarterbacks. Is there any hot take on who you'd start over Hertz or Jaden Daniels? Purdy over Daniels this week. I have it that way too. I have it that way too. I have it that way three. Burrow as well. So Burrow and Purdy over Jaden Daniels. All right, Purdy gets Seattle and
Starting point is 00:49:14 Burrow gets the Chargers. That's interesting. So Burrow over Daniels with that matchup at the Chargers Sunday night. All right, got some good good primetime games until Monday. All right. We've got some good, good prime time games until Monday. And the tight ends. How about the tight ends? Am I missing anybody? Am I AJ Brown obviously a start, Hertz, Barkley, but Goddard or Ertz?
Starting point is 00:49:34 Who do you like better? Goddard slightly. Neither one has stopped well for me. Yeah, Goddard slightly. Are we going with Hunter Henry? Are we going with Taysom Hill over these guys? Yep. Yes to Henry.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Hill over Ertz. Yes. And then I think, you know, you could have a, ooh, I've got some good question here. I'll get to that in a second, a Devonte Smith question, but you could have a, you know, a Mike Kosicki conundrum, right? If T Higgins doesn't practice Wednesday or Thursday,
Starting point is 00:50:07 play it out and then drop Kosicki for Dawson Knox or something like that if you have to. I could do that. But that's assuming that we don't see Kincaid at practice either by Thursday. So we're juggling. All right, maybe you could pivot to Will Disley. But the fact is you don't like Goddard or Zach Ertz
Starting point is 00:50:23 that much where you'd want take your gosicky upside out of the equation, I guess. That's fair to say. Okay, question from the chat. Devante Smith or Joann Jennings, half PPR. Jennings. Yeah, Jennings. I might go with Smith.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Justin Herbert or Jaden Daniels. Daniels. Daniels. Daniels. I have them back to back. I thought about Herbert as of now, it's still Daniels. Dallas Goddard or Taysom Hill? Goddard and CPR, Taysom and none. That's a good way to do it.
Starting point is 00:50:58 And Devante Smith or JSN? Smith and Jigba for me. And Bo wants to know if you would trade T Higgins for CD lamb in an unrelated question. I think I want Higgins rest of the way. I'm just not sure when he's going to come back. So that's obviously an important part of the equation. I'd go lamb.
Starting point is 00:51:21 The thing with Higgins is if he doesn't play this week, you don't get him till week 13. Yeah. That's why I'm a little skittish on that one. By the way, I watched Devontae Smith snaps last week because he's dealing with this hamstring injuries he slowed down at all. I didn't really think so. There was one play where he stacked his coverage,
Starting point is 00:51:39 he was wide open and Jalen Hurts under throw him. If he doesn't under throw him, that's a 65 yard touchdown. But that's the Vaughte Smith's game right now is boom or bust. And so appropriately ranking him as a number three receivers is the right thing to do. Okay, so that will do it.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Oh, Eagles DST is 10th for Jamie, six for Dave and 12th for Heath, although those were rankings on Tuesday. So I invite you to please double check on all of the rankings because they do change from Tuesday to Thursday. Check them day of game. Yeah, okay. That is it, Dave, for Thursday Night Football. Na na na na na na na.
Starting point is 00:52:13 All right, and here's a special edition of The Fantasy Cops. This one came across the inbox and I said, this will be a good one to read on the show. It is from someone in Canada. No name. Dave, name? Victor. Victor from Calgary.
Starting point is 00:52:31 In a family and friends league, we have a commissioner who's pretty lenient and likes to make sure everyone has a fun legal lineup. He will alert people if their lineup isn't complete and give them a heads up. For example, this week he alerted the 11th place team that he didn't have a kicker. They then picked up Sanders and beat the second place team, who isn't thrilled.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I am writing into the fantasy cops because I had Jonathan Brooks in my RB2 spot and he was a late inactive. I was playing hockey that morning so I didn't have an opportunity to check. In the past, Camara was a late scratch in London and the commissioner manually changed this manager's lineup for him. I've attached a screenshot for evidence London and the commissioner manually changed this manager's lineup for him. I've attached a screenshot for evidence. Should the commissioner have made the change of taking Brooks out of my lineup for the only other active running back on my roster, Jaylen Warren, which would have given me the win in my matchup?
Starting point is 00:53:21 If he's done it for everybody else, then yes, he's got to do it for you. This is when you're nice to a fault. Right. You can't, you can't, you can't do it and be selective if you're going to do it. You should. Yeah. He's this guy probably should not be a commissioner. Well, no, well, he should be like the mayor of a town, but he shouldn't be to
Starting point is 00:53:39 the point where he's going to tuck everybody in and the town at night, make sure everybody's cars are in the garage and all that stuff. Like, just to clarify, like you guys are saying that he should have done it, but we're not going back and reversing this game and giving him a win. Like, I'm sorry, the commissioner didn't take care of setting your lineup for you, but you lose. Right. I don't think Mr. Sounds like a nice guy, but the commissioner, I don't think he needs to do it for everyone. I think it's a nice thing that he's doing, but... I think the commissioner, I... I don't think he needs to do it for everyone. I think it's a nice thing that he's doing, but it's ultimately your responsibility.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You have a sort of safety net with the commissioner changing lineups, but you can't rely on that. So I don't think the commissioner did anything wrong here. Unfortunately, Victor, which is not your real name from Canada, you're out of luck. It's a shame. But if he's done it for everybody else though... I don't think he's done it for everybody else.
Starting point is 00:54:25 He's done it occasionally. Oh, if it's occasionally, then that's, he should be fired as the commissioner. And then this guy's out of luck. But if he did it for everybody, then he's gotta do it for this guy too. Even retroactively. If he did it for everyone, then maybe.
Starting point is 00:54:40 But if he just does it like most of the time as a nice thing to do, I still think it's your responsibility, right? As the manager. Of course it's his responsibility. You're saying that he went into somebody's lineup and fixed it, like the Camara issue last year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:56 He fixed that for somebody. He didn't just text and say, hey man, sorry for the early morning texts, Camara's inactive, you might wanna fix that. He literally went into somebody else's lineup. I also wanna know when did Victor find out that Brooks was in his lineup inactive, you might want to fix that. He literally went into somebody else's line. I also want to know, when did Victor find out that Brooks was in his lineup inactive? If he was playing hockey, did he check right away,
Starting point is 00:55:11 or did he look seven hours later and say, oh crap, I forgot to take Jonathan Brooks out of my lineup? Also, none of us had Jonathan Brooks ranked over Jaylen Warren anyway, so what were you doing? Well, that one, I don't know that I can... That seems a little harsh. Oh man, all right, well, that one, I don't know that I can do it. That seems a little harsh. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:55:26 All right. Well, that's it. I think you got some clarity there from the fantasy cops. Someone asked, how do I submit to the fantasy cops? You sent an email to fantasyfootball at cbsi.com and you put fantasy cops in the subject line. And now the moment no one's been waiting for, schedule analysis. I like this. I enjoy this exercise.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Unfortunately, I've only left myself about five minutes to do it. So Dave, you can help me out because you do it every week. Who's got the best schedules coming up? I specifically looked at just weeks 15 through started looking at weeks 15 through 17. And then I, you know, would get,
Starting point is 00:56:01 get you write those names down and then sort of expand it. Do they have good, good schedules rest of season at quarterback? Just say there's one name, maybe two and you can and there's seven that don't matter. Yeah, yeah. So right. The ones that you would actually start are Bo Nix and Baker Mayfield. They have really good schedules going forward. I think yeah, we talked Dave said earlier, buy low the Bucks because it's just gets incredibly good after the after the by with the exception of the Chargers on the road in weeks 1515 at running back. Breeze Hall has a great schedule.
Starting point is 00:56:35 The Buccaneers running backs have a great schedule. The Raiders running backs have have great matchups in weeks 16 and 17. That doesn't matter. Bijon has a great playoff schedule. Does anybody care Rico Dowdell has Carolina and Tampa Bay in the playoffs? They're bad against running backs.
Starting point is 00:56:53 I think no. Yeah. I mean, you should care. He's a flex. Chuba Hubbard has a great schedule in the playoffs. James Connor has a great schedule in the playoffs. On paper, J.K. Dob Connor has a great schedule in the playoffs. On paper, J.K. Dobbins has a good schedule, but before that, in the playoffs, before that he has a terrible schedule,
Starting point is 00:57:12 as I talked about earlier. Yeah, his next four games are gonna be tough. And then obviously that goes for everybody on the Chargers. It's not just him. Wide receivers, DJ Moore has the Viking, DJ Moore has an amazing schedule, the Viking, now like I don't know if it is because the Vikings, they're really good but they just,
Starting point is 00:57:31 they get thrown on a ton. But just on paper, the Vikings and the Lions are 30th and 31st against wide receivers and he faces them four times. And then he faces Seattle in the fantasy championships. But I can't tell you to buy low on DJ Moore. It wouldn't make any sense. Jaden Reed, great playoff schedule. What do we think about DeAndre Hopkins' schedule
Starting point is 00:57:50 going forward, Dave? How do you have him ranked? He gets Denver again, but not until week 18. And in the fantasy playoffs, Cleveland, they're 28th, Houston, they're 24th, Pittsburgh, they're 12th. But they all have good cornerbacks that could theoretically shadow Hopkins. I think this is one of the toughest playoff schedules for any wide receiver. So when I break
Starting point is 00:58:10 this down, I don't look at fantasy points. I'm more judging just who's on the field for them. Because remember, when you look at fantasy points aloud over the course of the season, you're taking into account things that happened in September, which might not apply in December or January. So that's part of the science behind what I do for the strength of schedule. And I still view those defenses that you mentioned that Kansas City is going to play as tough for all their wide receivers. I actually think it's the second toughest schedule that's out there for the fantasy playoffs. It makes me nervous to expect big things from Deandre Hopkins in the fantasy playoffs. And this is good because, you know, this is a combination of just looking at what the raw
Starting point is 00:58:49 numbers say and Dave's subjectivity, which is very helpful. Calvin Ridley, though, I did want to highlight, I already have highlighted, I think on paper, Calvin Ridley's schedule is among the best in football. And Jacoby Myers, great fantasy playoff schedule. And right before that, he gets Tampa Bay. So the next three weeks might not be great for Myers. Hopefully he can finish strong. Yeah, okay. Malik neighbors,
Starting point is 00:59:16 like it couldn't get much better for Malik neighbors. He has an unbelievable schedule. Does this matter for you? Cause he's had some good matchups in the past and the last four weeks have been really disappointing Like neighbors, I Mean, we're all a little nervous him. You're starting like yes Okay, it helps but we don't know the quarterback. There's just so much uncertainty right now with neighbors. How many more games can he have?
Starting point is 00:59:42 Like he had at the beginning of the season? That's 20 points. I don't know if there's, I'll give them one, maybe two, like Tampa, he has Tampa Bay and Baltimore left on his schedule and the Falcons are not much better. He's got such a good schedule, but God. It's a great schedule, but he's just saddled with crappy quarterbacks and the quarterbacks are going to get harassed. You know, like you think about that matchup against Baltimore, Raven's pass rush might have a field day against the Giants in that offensive line. And that'll make things a little bit harder.
Starting point is 01:00:15 And there have been huge gaps in each of the last two games where neighbors hasn't gotten any targets whatsoever. Yeah. And it's been maddening. Like how in the world do you not get him involved from the jump and then keep it going all game long? You really need to get Wendell Robinson that much involved? Or are you just, are you just coaching your quarterbacks to take what the defense gives you? And if that's what's happening?
Starting point is 01:00:37 No, it's not coaching the quarterbacks. It's, that's Daniel Jones. He doesn't process. He does not process. And he goes to Wendell because he can't throw the ball downfield. OK, well, I can't imagine it's going to get that much better with Drew Locker, Tommy DeVito. Doesn't sound like so. So I'm nervous, but you know what the upside is. So you're going to keep rolling him out there as a number two fantasy receiver.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I like Cortland Sutton's schedule going forward. C.D. Lamb. I don't love his in the fantasy playoffs. It's closer to average for me. Okay. CD lamb has a good playoff schedule, but then again, he has Philadelphia in week 17. That could be tough. Devante Adams got the same quarterback issue that that Malik neighbors had the lamb.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Almost all of his targets were short targets. Last week, the Jets have a pretty good schedule coming up. Very good. I'd say. By Bresol. You good, I'd say. Bye, Breeze Hall. You like George Pickens' schedule? He's got a pretty good one on paper. Let me see what it is, because I was going to look at Breeze Hall's schedule.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I do not like the Steelers' schedule. I think it's below average, regardless of how you slice it. Rest of the year, last three games, his next four games. He's got two games against Baltimore coming up. The Bengals are bad against the Pass, the Browns. See, that's the thing of the year, last three games, his next four games. He's got two games against Baltimore coming up. The Bengals are bad against the pass. The Browns, see, that's the thing. You might, I don't know how you value the Browns. They've been one of the worst against wide receivers.
Starting point is 01:01:52 They're bottom five against wide receivers to Cleveland Browns. The thing that I like for both Russ and Pickens is they face a lot of defenses down the stretch that are much, much better against the run than they are the pass. And we still haven't seen Russell Wilson throw 30 passes in a game yet. I think they might actually play some teams that forced them to
Starting point is 01:02:09 throw the ball a little bit more. Pickens has been a very good fantasy wide receiver on a team that's not throwing early at all. If they have to throw it 33, 34 times a game, Pickens might be a top five guy. And then who do they play? They play the Ravens twice. They play the Bengals. They play the Eagles. They play the Chiefs. These are teams that could put up points. So that's good. I'm hoping that it works out for him. And honestly, I at this point, just the way that Russ has been playing and the way that Pickens has been playing, I do feel like he's borderline matchup proof. But this week's going to go a long way into determining just whether or not that's true.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Well, he's got the best matchup in fantasy. But it's also, it's one of those matchups where, and we'll talk about this again later this week, like you can trust the matchup or do you trust the history, which is these are always low scoring field goal fast. Yeah. Okay. All right. Sorry. I'll try to wrap up here. I know we're going long bad matchups. Geez, anybody care about Jared golf and the Lions in general? I mean, Jared golf's playoff schedule is the bills at the Bears and at San Francisco. And he also gets the Bears two weeks earlier than that. So Jared
Starting point is 01:03:18 golf, his last five opponents are all top 12 against quarterbacks. He's got the worst schedule on paper. He's not I don't think he's a starter, but he's not really, I mean, he's only kind of been a starter. Like he's a very borderline QB one. I certainly wouldn't plan on starting him in the fantasy playoffs. Meanwhile, their running backs have like league average strength of schedule according to my rankings. And they're better than that in their next four games, a little worse than that in weeks 15 through 17, but I would imagine that they'll just continue to pound away
Starting point is 01:03:48 on defenses with their two backs. Drake may also has a bad playoff schedule at Arizona. We see how well they're, how much they're improving at Buffalo and the Chargers. So Drake may schedule good until his buy in week 14 and then bad after that. Yep, agree completely. This is maybe the biggest takeaway.
Starting point is 01:04:05 You need to sell Najee Harris. Najee Harris has the worst schedule in the world. Every opponent is top 10 against running. Every opponent going forward, not just the playoffs. And his playoff schedule is at Philadelphia. They're not great against the run, but they don't give up a lot of points. Then at Baltimore, then home against Kansas City.
Starting point is 01:04:23 He also gets Baltimore this week. Now Cleveland does not have Jeremiah Owusu-Karamoa. They don't have a good run defense without him, it seems. So he gets them twice. He could come back for the second one, but Najee Harris's schedule absolutely sucks going forward. Dead last in my rankings for the entire season and the fantasy playoffs.
Starting point is 01:04:41 What do you think about Joe Mixon, guys? Kansas City and Baltimore are his last two playoff games. He's gonna be awesome for the next few weeks. He's got a top five schedule for the next four weeks. And then after that, it's just downhill. Yeah, he played Houston. Yeah, he played, sorry, who they play on Sunday night? Detroit.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Detroit, he played a great run defense. He caught a touchdown or he run. Now he caught a 40 yard pass or whatever he ran in right touch. And he ran right but he was averaging like two yards of carry. Yeah. So it's interesting. And honestly, I think a lot of that has to do more with his offensive line than it does the matchup because going into that game since
Starting point is 01:05:18 Hutchinson got hurt Detroit's run defense wasn't very good. They were they were starting to slack a little bit. But I think that offensive line, combined with, I think Detroit tried to like really gear up to stop Mixon and, and dare Houston to throw. Like, we're at that point with Houston without Nico Collins, where defenses are doing that to CJ Stroud. I think that once Nico's back, and once they get their house in order up front, then maybe things will be a
Starting point is 01:05:42 little bit better for Mixon. But yes, tough schedule, tough opponents coming up. Okay, I think Kareem Hunt has a tough playoff schedule, but we already talked about him. I'll skip ahead to some of the big headliners at wide receiver. Does anybody care about Jamar Chase? Jamar Chase could get the Jerry's need, then the Browns, then Patrick Sertan. That's his playoff schedule. Tennessee, at Tennessee, home against Cleveland, home against Denver. Anybody concerned about that with Jamar Chase? I saw it before I traded for Chase.
Starting point is 01:06:11 I still traded for Chase. Just Sertan. And you're not sending him that week, but the Snead situation is not, he hasn't played to that level this year. Do we know that he's even coming back? No. But I mean, I figure he'll be back by week 15.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I would hope so. Tennessee could use him. The Colts wide receivers have bad matchups. I don't think it really matters for Josh Downs if Flacco is still the quarterback. All they do is like, get open short and catch passes. And, you know, Detroit wide receivers, Cleveland wide receivers, Houston wide receivers, Rams wide receivers, Patriots wide receivers. These are teams that have multiple bottom 10 matchups in the fantasy playoffs. Again, I don't really think it matters for them. Yeah, I don't really think it matters for them. So I would just say, I would, I don't know if you, I think you could do this, but I think I would probably trade Jamar Chase straight up for Justin Jefferson and not have to worry about maybe Snead who,
Starting point is 01:07:08 by the way, I'm pretty sure Ligeria Snead shut him down last year when Snead was with Kansas City. And then Sir Tan is obviously fantastic. So coming off a 56 point game. He hasn't played to that level though, when he's healthy. I don't know, I think he's played pretty well. Snead? Yeah, you've been talking all year
Starting point is 01:07:22 about how great the Titans, how great the. Oh, it was good at the start of the season when they were all healthy, but Diggs is not there and Sneed is not played. Right, but he was playing well beforehand. I don't think he's shutting down Jamar Chase in this defense. His offense? In this defense. In this defense that he currently plays in.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Well, I mean, we were just talking about the Eagles maybe having the best defense in the NFL and Jamar Chase scored 20 fantasy points against them. Mm hmm. Like, what was his stat? No one's even going to think about it. Nine for 5,400 sitting. No one's thinking about sitting Jamar Chase. I'm not saying sit them. I said, trade them straight up for Justin Jefferson.
Starting point is 01:07:59 If you're worried about his match. Sure. I sure you could try. I don't know if you want to do that, but alright, look at just bringing it up. And then is anybody worried about McLaurin two games against the Eagles beginning this week, you got to buy in week 14 and you got Tennessee, which no one seems to care about.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Not really. No. Oh, look at that. Someone just called me dumb for suggesting that luxurious need might, might be a problem for Jamar Chase, even though he was last year. So. It was not a different team though. Yeah. He's the shutdown cornerback. I don't know like what this he's not, he didn't have a good year. I think he's had a pretty good year when he's been healthy. Different team, different coordinator, different pass rush, working in concert with what Snead's
Starting point is 01:08:45 doing. Can we just look at, tell me what weeks he's played. Legerious Snead. DJ Moore in week one had five catches for 36 yards. Garrett Wilson in week two had four catches for 57 yards. Jayden, I won't count Jayden Redia, Malik Willis. Then the next week you had the Dolphins receivers who were terrible. Tyree kill at four
Starting point is 01:09:05 he shadowed Tyre kill four catches for 23 yards but to it in play I do remember Tyre kill getting open a few times and just not being able to be hit. And I think that was the last time we saw the Jerry Snead face a good snee. Snead is a good player. He's not going to make you fear Jamar Chase playing on the Titans. I agree with that. I was just making a case that maybe. No, you're not wrong in the case that you're making.
Starting point is 01:09:28 And to call you dumb for saying suggesting training Jamar Chase for Justin Jefferson is ridiculous. I mean, they're the two best at their position. So if you're concerned about anything, why would you not try and take one that you feel in particular is better than the other? And I'm not gonna trade Chase because he might play Snead.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I'm gonna trade Chase because he's got Patrick Surtan in week 17. And I don't think you're gonna get a 25 point game from Jamar Chase to win you your championship. I think you'd be happy with like an 18 point game, but there's possibility, like Surtan is amazing. And if I'm trading Chase, it's coming off the best game of his season.
Starting point is 01:10:04 And it's for just, it may be just, I'm not even, I have Chase in two leagues, I'm not even making offers. I'm just hypothetically proposing something. So forget it. All right, that's it for today's show. Thanks for indulging. When we've got more trade talk on FFT Express
Starting point is 01:10:21 that Dave and I are about to sit down and chat about. We'll talk to you then. Our fantasy football team. We'll talk on FFT Express that Dave and I are about to sit down and chat about. We'll talk to you then. All right, thanks for talking.

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