Fantasy Football Today - Beyond the Box Score NFL Draft Edition! What Do the Numbers Tell Us? (04/20 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: April 20, 2026

Jacob Gibbs joins us today and so does Ryan Heath of FantasyPoints.com. These guys give us a different take on the top NFL Draft prospects. You've heard the traditional scouting reports, but what do the numbers say about Makai Lemon, Carnell Tate, Jordyn Tyson, Fernando Mendoza and so many more players? Let's start with who we would take with the 1.02 of dynasty drafts (3:30). Then we'll get into the news and notes (9:15) including the latest on A.J. Brown and our thoughts on the Dexter Lawrence trade ... What do the advanced metrics say about Jeremiyah Love (16:00)? How good is this tight end class (20:10) and what are the red flags for Kenyon Sadiq and Eli Stowers? We also get into the metrics on the first round wide receivers (29:10). What do you need to know about Tate's production at Ohio State? Is Denzel Boston going to be pigeonholed into a bad role for Fantasy? ... We finish with some NFL Draft sleepers (46:15)! Remember these guys on Day Three ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Welcome everybody, NFL Draft Week.

It is Monday, April 20th. Adam Azer here with Dave Richard and we have two awesome guests who are going to blow our minds with data. Jacob Gibbs, you know him of Beyond the Boxcore. Follow him at J.A. Gibbs underscore 23. And Ryan Heath of FantasyPoints.com. And you probably know him if you've listened to Beyond the Box Score or FFT Dynasty. I've never had Ryan Heath on it. I've had Ryan Heath FOMO. I've always wanted to talk to Ryan. And you can follow him at Ryan J. underscore Heath on Twitter. My favorite Heath. What's going on Ryan? Hey, how's it going?

Yeah, lots of hoots here at CBS. Happy to be one of them appearing. But yeah, it's super excited for the draft, excited to chop it up with you guys, talk some takes. So yeah, thanks for having me on. It is our pleasure. And we were talking before the show, the first time speaking. You said you're a Patriots fan. Your teenagers were great, like growing up, rooting for them.

And I look at you and I go, are you not still in your teenage years? I'm 26 years old, so a little bit out of the teenage years. But, yeah, just not too long ago. Babyface, you got to watch them on YouTube. YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. Also on YouTube, Beyond the Box Score, has its own YouTube channel. So they're going to have great, they've had great NFL draft coverage. It's going to continue this week.

I'm currently on a text message, Jacob, with Jamie and Dan wondering which one of us between me and you, Jacob, who snubbed Dan from being on this show? Was it me or was it you? I guess it's an equal credit. Dan's a super busy man. for sure. We've got a very full week coming up at Beyond the Box Corps. We're going live every single day this week. And so we're really excited for all of that. So he's working on stuff behind the scenes. And I brought my buddy Ryan over. We both wore green shirts. We both kind of got rocking the baby face. We're ready to give you some good stats.

You look like an old man compared to him, Jacob. All right. Dave's here also great. Everybody loves Dave. Let's start with this. Who should be before the NFL draft. If we all agree that Jeremiah Love, the running back from Notre Dame, should be 101 in a dynasty draft. Who should be 102? Dave, what do you think before the draft begins if you were doing a dynasty rookie draft right now? Who should be 102 after Love? Definitely a wide receiver.

You can make the case for Lemon. You can make the case for Tate. But I think in terms of fantasy, we're always talking about shooting for upside. And I think the receiver with the most upside in this draft is Jordan Tyson. I am encouraged by the fact that he was able to run routes in front of. NFL teams this past week. When you watch his film, the dude moves so well. He's so sudden, so shifty. I wish he were a little more physical, and I wish he didn't have this terrible track record with injuries, but short of those two things, he really would be the best wide receiver

prospect in this draft class without question. He's improved as far as his hands go, and he's really got a game that should be able to fit in West Coast offense, RPO offenses, spread offenses. He can really do it all. I would lean in that direction. I think that that's probably the riskiest direction at 102, but that would be the direction I would lean in. Jacob, who would you take at 102? Are we talking superflex? Yes. Yes. It's just, it's just Mendoza for me. Pretty easy. Unless we get like just the perfect landing spot for one of these other players we're super, super, super excited about, like maybe take to the chiefs. I would push him up there. Lemon in a few scenarios, maybe, but I think I'm pretty, pretty comfortable with Mendoza. Okay. And then,

Ryan, how about you? And I guess we actually didn't talk before the show if we were talking Superflex or not. But you can answer it either way. Yeah. So even in Superflex, first I'll say it is definitely not Mendoza for me. I think that these like non-rushing quarterbacks are super overrated in Dynasty superflex formats. Like Cam Ward wasn't actually safe. Bryce Young isn't actually safe.

These are like sure there's value upside, but these are not like the safe, stable picks that people make them out to be sometimes. I also prefer Jordan Tyson as my 102. I think he just has clearly the best analytics profile of any wide receiver in this draft as well. Over three yards per out run in his freshman season. He's on a top six list including Brock Bowers, George Pickens, Aminara, St. Brown, the single most impressive statistical season in 2024 after he destroyed every ligament in his knees. Like, if you're concerned about the injuries, he had his best, most productive college season after his most significant injury. So it doesn't concern me much at all.

I think his profile could be even more impressive, if not for these injuries. There's kind of two sides to that coin that people don't always talk about. So yeah, I'm very comfortable with Tyson as my 102. I'm so excited that I could argue with Ryan today. Yeah, go for it. You don't have the same feelings on Jordan Tyson? Everything. Everything he said is wrong.

Tyson's really exciting. What I would say is like the first year season is like, 150 routes or whatever. I do think like everything with his analytical profile is exciting, but it's also like a lot of roll catery stuff. And I just don't feel comfortable with him compared to the other two. I feel much, much better about each of the other two. I think there's a really, really, really wide range of outcomes with Tyson and maybe in the right spot, he does make it worth it. But to me, unless I'm in a spot where my team's super desperate to take a shot on upside, I feel much better about Lemon and Tate and Mendoza because I do think there's upside. And that's

the main thing I actually wanted to push back on. I don't know how interesting it is to get into the Tyson debate. We've talked about it for a long time. Everybody has their takes on it. The Mendoza thing, though, I just don't feel like it's fair to group him in with the players that you did in terms of rushing, just watching him, especially during the playoffs, but also statistically, like, to me, he comes in kind of the sweet spot where he's not giving you the Drake May, Josh Allen rushing upside, but his best seasons in terms of scramble rates

and then effectiveness on scrambles, even getting some designed rushes. as well comes in like the Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow range, Caleb Williams, like above above a lot of the guys that I think are more of like just statute quarterbacks that aren't going to give you any rushing. So I'm pretty intrigued by that, that there is that kind of upside as well for Mendoza. Okay. Well, yeah, not to brag, but I do happen to have the second pick in a Super Flex draft. And it's not because I traded for it, guys. It's just because I was that bad.

So I'm going to have this decision to make. And of course, yeah, I mean, I think obviously landing spot, I don't really want to see one of those top three wide receivers go to the Browns, you know. But then again, do I want to see them go to the Saints who already have Chris Oliva? I don't know. We'll see. I don't know what the perfect destination. I know the chiefs get talked about a lot.

But Rishi Rice is obviously a huge target hog. So we'll find out. Obviously, things can change between now and Thursday. By the way, on Thursday, NFL teams have eight minutes to pick instead of 10. So I'm hoping that means we'll be on the air at 11 instead of midnight, Eastern. And I don't know. First I saw of that, so I'm hoping that the draft is shorter. We have a lot of news and notes to get to.

By the way, we've talked about NFL draft a lot the last week. This show's a little bit different because Jacob and Ryan are going to give you less of the traditional scouting reports and analysis that we've heard from our previous guests and more of an analytical, what are the numbers telling us, what are the comps, the statistical comps for these players, that kind of analysis. And I think that'll be really helpful for us. All right. And Dave is super well-versed in these prospects now, and I was like, you need to come on a need

drill. So just some news and notes before we get into some more of the NFL draft talk. Adam Schaefter unloaded in a column, just a bunch of insider notes on ESPN. He says, AJ Brown to the Patriots is still tracking to happen, but not necessarily this week. We've been talking about that June 1st date when it becomes much cheaper for the Eagles to trade AJ Brown. But Adam Schaefter basically saying it looks like AJ Brown is going to go to the New England Patriots on or after June 1st. Ryan Heath, Patriots fan, you pumped for that? Yeah, I mean, AJ Brown is just about getting to the age.

level of declining play that he can come to the Patriots now, right? That's kind of how we always do our wide receiver position. No, I'm genuinely very excited. Brown is one of my favorite players in the league. So yeah, just on a fan level, it's exciting. I don't think he was quite himself this past season, but he certainly is still playing at a high level. So yeah, I'd be down for it. I don't know. It's just gotten reported so much over and over and over that I am almost like, Is this one of those off-season swan songs that never happens? Like, I don't know. I'm still kind of divided on it.

Schefter also says Jeremiah Love, the draft range for him appears to be as early as third to Arizona, as late as seventh to Washington. Seventh seems to be Love's floor. Pittsburgh might be in the market for an offensive tackle. Their left tackle, Broderick Jones had a setback in his recovery from a neck injury. He's going to be evaluated to determine his status for training camp and the start of the season. That's from Schefter.

is this. Miami left tackle Francis Maui Noah. That's Miami Hurricanes, not dolphins, but maybe dolphins. He's got a herniated disc in his back, which doesn't appear to be a huge concern right now for NFL teams, but it is something that if he needs surgery, could sideline him for months. Georgia wide receiver Zachariah Branch. He's short. He's super fast. He's great after the catch. But he also, he was arrested on two misdemeanor charges. I don't know. Reading the story it didn't seem like it was huge, not to downplay it, but it wasn't a felony or anything. I don't know.

It's not a good thing. It's not a good thing, but it wasn't like he did something horrible. He obstructed law enforcement. Not a good thing. Not trying to excuse it, but, you know, could have been worse. Okay. Dave, the Giants traded Dexter Lawrence to the Bengals.

Now, the Bengals this offseason have now added Lawrence, who at his best is arguably the best nose tackle in the NFL or defensive tackle. He's played different defensive tackle positions, I guess. They've added Lawrence. They've added Boye-Moffey. They've added Jonathan Allen.

Those are all linemen. They've added two safeties, Kyle Dugger and Brian Cook. They've been first or second in pass rate three straight seasons. They've been second in past attempts, two straight seasons. Are you at all worried

that their defense might actually not be bad and they're not going to throw as much? They'll be better. they'll be better. Boy, did I get into a lot of conversations on X over this trade over the weekend? Bengles fans, tip of the cap to you guys for being as passionate as you are about your team, but I still think it's kind of gross to give up the 10th overall pick for a 28-year-old who you had to extend and give a lot of money to.

Okay. That being out of the way, yeah, they've made some nice moves. I don't know if this is the one that puts them over the top. I still wish that they had a little bit more in their pass rush. especially on the edges, but they're going to be better than they were last year. It'll, you tell me this Giants fan,

how often were the Giants great against the run with Dexter Lawrence? Well, no, they had the worst run defense in football last year. But a lot of people think Lawrence... And how about the year before that and the year before that and the year before that? And I think the year before that, but don't quote me on it.

Yeah. I honestly, that I don't know. Yeah. Well, I do. And they weren't top 12. So I'm,

I am hopeful that Lawrence, does things to help their pass rush, and he can clog to help stop the run. But I am not yet at the point where I can say, oh, goodness, we can't draft Bengals players as high as we were because the defense is going to be good. I think the defense will be better, but we probably would have said that before the season started anyway. Will it be a top 16 defense? I don't know if they're there yet.

Okay. A few more notes from around the league. The Texans signed Will Anderson, their superstar edge rusher, to a three-year, $150 million extension with $134 million guaranteed. Jacoby Brissette, first of all, he's not been named the starter for the Cardinals, and he's not at OTAs. He's looking for a contract extension. And it seems like they are working on that.

Chargers GM Joe Hortiz said that he's not made any calls about trading Quentin Johnson. He also says that the wide receiver room for the Chargers is not complete. And Zay Flowers, he said that the reason the Ravens had so many injuries last season was because of John Harbaugh's difficult practice schedule. Did not like the practice schedule very much. All right. Keep that in mind. We're going to take a break, get into some of the analytics from Jacob and Ryan

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Visit vw.ca to learn more. SUVW, German engineered for all. Again, I'm going to do our best not to just repeat the shows we've been doing, but I think it's important to talk about these prospects from a different angle, and that's what we're getting today with this more analytical look at it. And, of course, again, always watch, listen to Beyond the Box Score to get this type of great analysis and read Ryan Heath's stuff on FantasyPoints.com. All right, Jacob, what do the analytics tell you about Jeremiah Love and maybe just comparing him to Ashton Janty? Yeah, Jeremiah Love is awesome.

Like every analytical aspect is checked out from what I found. It can make people miss, can create explosive plays, was successful in short yard situations. just looking at Judarian Price, I wondered if maybe that was who he was at first, because I don't know anything about the prospects until I'd do the scouting in the spring, but it was clearly love who they preferred in short yards situations, and he was a lot more effective.

And then the explosive play stuff is really, really, really impressive. I actually thought that their line wasn't consistent, and at times struggled, and it was also just really predictable that they were going to run, and so teams really, really played the run heavy. And so there were a lot of plays where he was hit at her behind the line of scrimmage, both running backs there. Notre Dame. And on place where he got at least one yard blocked, it was like, you know,

pretty much the most efficient season we've seen from any of these running back prospects drafted recently in terms of yards per attempt, explosive runs, all of that stuff. So I think it's pretty clear that the skills and the framework for something absolutely massive are there. You also, if you watch the film, get to see him do some really cool stuff lined out at receiver in the slot, stuff like that running downfield route. So it's like, what could this guy be? Like, truly, this guy is the limit for this type of a player because you can give you explosive plays. You can score from any distance. He can make players miss. He can turn out consistent runs and he can win down the field as a receiver and as a weapon in the backfield. And on top of that,

not that it really even matters because I think they'd probably rather have him run routes, but he's also good past protector. Like he's really, really, really good. Comparing him to Genty is hard because they're extremely different in the way that they run, the way that they process, the speed of which they play. Both of them have receiving upside. I think that the upside is probably higher for love, but we also don't know where he's going to go whereas Genti like I feel really good about the fit with Clint Kubiak I'm really excited about how he might be weaponized there so like right now I lean slightly towards Genti for dynasty purposes as prospects just looking at their profiles they're they're basically the same for me I hate to just

give you a cop out answer but like I don't I don't see much of a difference between the two they're both just like tier A tier S whatever you want to call it Ryan your thoughts yeah to me love is definitely up there with all of these kind of top 12 drafted running back prospects that we've had over the past several years. I would put him behind Genti as a prospect just a little bit. You see that the thing that love doesn't really have

that the Genties, the Bijans, the Sequans, all these guys have had is just the raw production. Of course, that's very difficult to compare, especially Gentie being at Boise State and also love having to play with Judarian Price who is worthy of a day two draft pick. Like that is not a competition profile we often see with these kind of elite drafted running backs. So the raw production is a little bit lower for love than some of these other guys you could compare them to.

But yeah, once you get into the per touch stuff, it looks really amazing. Like he's top 10 in career mistackles force per touch among round one through four running backs over the past decade. As Jacob mentioned, the explosive play stuff is really awesome. the receiving numbers are all just as awesome as the tape is as he mentioned. So yeah, I feel really good about Love. I would have him in Dynasty just as my RB4 right now, just behind Genty. My one thing is that if he goes to the commanders, which I see as like the ideal kind of short-term landing spot where he should just immediately be a bell cow. There's not going to be like any questions in terms of touch splits there.

Then I would actually move him above Genty in my dynasty rankings as the RB. just because there are some more like short-term questions with the environment there for Genti than I would have for love. So yeah, really close, obvious 101. Yeah, not really much else to debate or quibble over there in my opinion. Ryan, how do you feel about the tight ends this year? I think overall I'm a little bit lower on like the top two tight ends that everybody loves a ton. Kenyon-Sadik, Eli Stowers. I just don't know if the athleticist.

is as big of a factor for these guys that aren't going to be playing in line all the time is maybe where I differ from some people. But beyond that, like, as you get deeper and deeper into the tight end class, there are a lot of guys that I am just kind of like on this day two, day three borderline that I love just like putting round three and round four dynasty rookie picks on just to kind of make these cheap bets. like your Sam Rouches, your Tanner Kosyalls, your Justin Jolie's. There's just a lot of names there deeper in the tight end class that I really enjoy. But yeah, if you guys want to talk about Sadiq or Stowers in more detail, I'm happy to do that as well. Actually, I'd like to talk more about what you said about the in-line thing. So you're just saying they won't be on the field enough?

Yes. So, yeah, so it's partially that. But also I think we for a long time have had this idea at the tight end position that, oh, athleticism is one of the biggest predictors of successful fantasy tight ends. And that has been true for a while, but it seems most specifically for these guys that are playing in line when you're matched up on these linebackers and safeties, you kind of can win just by being a lot bigger and a lot faster against these

less coverage inclined defenders. As the league is kind of shifting and these non-inline tight ends are now playing against a nickel corner or yeah a defender that a slot receiver might play against just the pure athleticism to me doesn't go as far this is kind of your issue with your mike gisickey's your no offense like these guys were amazing tested athletes but we look at the wide receiver position we see that athleticism has almost no bearing on production right it's literally a negatively correlated trait when after you look at draft capital guys they get drafted just for their athleticism are often much worse than fantasy. I think you can make a similar argument for an Eli Stowers type. Like,

his athleticism compares almost pound for pound to a Chase Claypole. Yes. Yes. So like kind of give people that image in their minds. Like, and I think you can make arguments around Stowers's production. I mean, he's still my rookie 110. So I don't totally hate the guy. Like I see the upside there if it works out in the correct landing spot where he is going to be an every down player. I don't think that's even close to every team in the NFL right now, though. So yeah, I'm really like reserving my opinion on a stowers a little bit until we know the landing spot. But I think I'm a lot lower on him than your typical kind of numbers driven like fantasy analyst because that, yeah, the production's insane. I totally get the allure. But yeah, it's not necessarily just going to

translate to the NFL one for one. Let me get in here with some comparisons. So these are from mock draftable. These are athletic comparisons. You can, you know, look at the tied in comparisons, but there's really nothing like these two. And then if you look at like actual athletes that have been in the NFL at any position, um, for Sadiq, the most similar comparisons are like Chase Claypool, like he said,

Donovan People's Jones, Anthony Richardson, like big upright athletes, you know, like weirdly, yeah. And then like Stowers, it's like Quentin Johnston,

Chase Claypool. Matt Jones, you might remember was a quarterback receiver for Jacksonville back in the day where it's like really good straight line athlete. but very few of these players, I mean, maybe Quinn Johnson is the best of that group. Very few of them have been productive wide receivers. And it's not so much that these guys won't be able to be on the field at all. Stowers, I am a little bit worried that he might find himself in that type of a situation

where he becomes a Dalton Kincaid type of player where he's only 40, 50% of the snaps. But it's more so that if they're going to be on the field and they're not able to be in line very much at all, then they're going to have to be, you know, slot receivers or out wide. And it's like, are they actually better than the players who fill those spots? probably not. There's like basically no receivers in the NFL that are six foot four, 240 pounds because that's kind of prohibitively big in terms of the like requisite horizontal movement skills that you need to play that position. Nobody's like Tedaroa McMillan.

And McMillan's one of those guys who's big and can move. And what's he weigh though? Like 220 or something? Yeah, yeah. He's not as heavy as these tight ends are. So I think you're exactly right. And I think putting it in that type of lens where these guys might only play. And I think Sadiqa, separate. At least I think his ceiling is separate from all the other tight ends in this

graph class. But we're talking about guys that might only play 50% of the snaps. And that might be on the high side as rookies. And that makes me nervous about putting any of them in that round one dynasty conversation, unless the landing spot is just so, so good. I do think that the team that drafts Siddique has to understand how to use them, not put them in as an inline tight end and ask him to block all the time. Although could he do that? Yeah, well, he be great at it? Probably not. He's way more of a wide receiver than a tight end. And I think he does have a chance to be fairly productive as a rookie and then maybe even develop into a good fantasy option, somebody who could be the number two target getter on his team. I think about him

going to Carolina, speaking of McMillan. And that actually gets me the most excited. Like I think about him in that role where he's a great short area option for Bryce Young. And I think they can scheme the hell out of him and make him a good, productive target right away there versus other teams that maybe he's going to take a backseat for like a year. Dave, were you talking about Sadiq? Sorry. Yeah, at the end, that was Sadiq. I don't think there's really another tight end worth spending a lot of time on unless it's like either late in the show or we're going to do a show dedicated toward tight ends that you'll take in round two of your dynasty league.

If you want that, you can find all that and be on the box score because I've become obsessed with this freaking tight end class. So I go deep on it. I really like these guys. Yeah, but I mean, but Ryan makes a good point. A lot of the fantasy relevant tight ends are not drafted in the first round. Obviously, a lot of tight ends aren't, but they come kind of from out of nowhere. I talk about it all the time. The most important thing for the tight end is are they in a position to get targets?

They're not necessarily, only a few of them are going to really dazzle us with their production. What we want is, are they going to get targets? But I wonder how you evaluate a guy like Oscar Delp, who is, you know, some people consider him one of the first three tight ends, you know, in this class. but he hasn't even had 300 yards in a season. So, Ryan, when there's not that much data, I guess, when there's not that many stats, but there's a lot of athleticism and the scouts seem to like Oscar Delp out of Georgia.

What do you do with a guy like that? You have to at least be open to it. I had a tweet out a while ago that was basically, if we're just kind of looking for the George Kittle, the next George Kittle, like that type of outlier, where it's a guy that didn't produce much in college, but is extremely athletic. Delp is probably going to get drafted a lot earlier than Kittle did now with kind of the steam we've seen over the past few weeks.

I can see it for him. In my like pet little athleticism model, Delp is at a 96th percentile overall composite athletic score. His per target efficiency is pretty strong, at least. That was another kind of thing with Kittle was, yeah, they didn't throw to him often. He was blocking a lot. But when they threw to him, the results were good. Delp is 68th percentile. career yards per target among these tight ends.

So that's pretty solid. I can see it. But I will say if I'm forced to pick kind of one of these more inline type of tight ends that are kind of go further down the board might go later in the draft, actually much prefer Jack Endries to an Oscar Delp or to an Eli Raritan who have been kind of the two like sleepery inline guys. Endries was really, really good at Cal. One of the more productive tight end seasons in this class,

especially age-adjusted. Yeah, he had the injury in the final season, but his first two games in his last two games, he was leading that Texas team in receiving. So, yeah, Endries is kind of the sleeper in the dealt mode that I actually like a little bit more. One drop in his last two seasons for Jack Enjuries. And yes, he played with Fernando Mendoza and Cal

and had 623 yards, two touchdowns in 2024. I mean, the touchdowns aren't great, but that's pretty good yardage season for him. All right, I think probably enough about tight ends. I think we should focus more on the wide receivers here. And you can't really look at Jacob Gibbs' Twitter page without seeing something about Casey Concepcion. Kind of reminds me of Colson Loveland last year you were very high on,

but it seems like you really like Casey Concepcion. But I guess just talk about the group of probably six that have a good chance to be drafted in the first round. Not saying they all will. But it seems like there's a top six at the position. I don't know how you see it, Jacob, but let's talk wide receivers. Yeah. So it seems like Lemon, Tyson, Tate, or most people stop three. If you've got the hipster, hot take, fantasy people like me and Dan, then we maybe have Concepcion above Tyson.

I'm seeing that more and more. I think they're all going in round one. Omar Cooper Jr. from Indiana seems like he's going around. round one, until Boston might go in round one. So there's six, those are the three, that's six you're referring to, I believe. I like all those players. Boston is the one who scares me the most for fantasy purposes, just as the archetypical downfield threat.

I think he can do more than that. There's a chance he gets installed as a Michael Pittman type player, where they run more slants and hitches and stuff to him that kind of help boost his targets a little bit. If he goes in round one, that might be the case. But he also could kind of fit into like the Alex. Pierce type of a role for a team. In which case, it would be pretty tough to trust them for fantasy. There's very few of those players who have such deep average depths of targets who are good

for fantasy. I want to start with that. He's the lowest of the group for fantasy for that reason. All the other players have potentially really fantasy-friendly games. Cardinal Tate sort of similarly might fit into that type of a role, in which case it's going, he is a sort of landing spot dependent for fantasy, which is weird because I think his skill set overall translates to the NFL extremely well in almost any time. team would be well served to have Carnal Tate on the roster.

But for fantasy, if he gets in a spot where they're like, you're all the time X receiver, you're working down the field on the perimeter only, then I would be pretty nervous about his ability to get enough targets to matter. And I would be content in that case, like moving some of these other receivers ahead of him. The rest of the guys are outside of Tyson are intriguing because they're really, really good with the ball in their hands. So it's Omar Cooper Jr. Mackay Lemon and Casey Concepcion.

own. But you're not including Carnell Tate in that? No. Right. And that's important to know for a guy who could be the first receiver draft. He's not really a yak guy. But go ahead. Yeah. So those other three, I think, can win in the slot and can win down

the field with Casey Concepcional giving you the most upside of somebody who could potentially win all over the place all of the time. If you watch his route running, it's just ridiculously impressive. The analytical profile isn't quite as exciting as some of these other players in terms of the peaks.

But he did break out early. And I think he was then miscast the NC State after that as like just a slot guy. And you see a Texas A&M, his average depth of target goes way up. He's used on the perimeter and not so much in the slot. And he was really, really effective. And that's even with the highest off target rate on deep throws of any receiver in this class. Whether that's QB player, offensive line, I don't really care. But when you watch the film, it's clear that they weren't able to get him the ball down the field.

And he was open down the field all of the time. And then when he got the ball in his hands, I said they didn't really do the roll catery stuff. They had a younger guy that they did more of the short yarded slot stuff with. That's pretty intriguing prospect for next year. Casey Concepcion was more of the field stretching type, more of the wide receiver one type. But when they did run design screens to him and stuff like that,

he was like wildly effective. He was also really good in the return game. And if you just watch him, like he, he's not as powerful as somebody like Luther Burden. or he doesn't have quite the contact balance that somebody like Omar Cooper Jr. have. But those are like the best yardage after the catch, avoid a tackle rate receivers that we have

over the last five to 10 years. And I think he's like truly just a tier below them. He's so good with the ball in his hands. And he has legitimate speed to turn those plays into like huge plays as well. So he's really, really intriguing. And if he gets the right landing spot, he's going to be steaming up into like the top five probably for dynasty rookie ranks for a lot of people.

And I think that that's honestly right. that's Casey's Concepcion. Another thing about him is they could, whoever drafts him, they could use them as a rusher a little bit, right? And even Puginakua had 10 carries for 105 yards and a touchdown. C.D. Lambs, a guy who usually has some rushing, he didn't this past year, but in the past he has, it helps. It helps a little bit.

It might give you an extra, might give you an extra 10 fantasy points, just in rushing yards or something like that. So that's Concepcion. Jordan, let me, I just want to know, one thing I noticed about Jordan Tyson, and Ryan, you're very high on him. Dave, I'm sorry, I will get you involved.

No problem, man. It's fun. His catch rate wasn't very good. 66.4% in 2024, 62.9% in 2025. That is not even close to Carnal Tate, but 77% catch rate, two straight seasons, and a higher ADOT.

Or Mackay Lemon, 73% catch rate or better every year of his career. You know, I'm sure quarterback had something to do with it. And, in fact, Tyson, his quarterback Sam Levitt missed some time this year. And I don't know. I wasn't really that impressed what I saw from Levitt, even though he's kind of hyped.

But anyway, that's a stat that jumped out to me for Jordan Tyson. Pretty low catch rate, I thought. Also, less Yak than Carnell Tate, who we already mentioned is not great with YAC. And Tate had, again, a higher A dot than Tyson. Do you concern you at all? It's like they are red flags to his profile, for sure. I'll say on the YAC first,

that looks a little bit better if you put his 2025 into context, kind of looking at the games before his hamstring injury and then also the two games where he tried to return from it and re-aggregated it. If you kind of like sample around those games, the yak doesn't look quite as bad for Tyson. I'd say the same for Tate too. This is like kind of the most common red flag people bring up with him. Basically every outside Ohio Statewide receiver

has had a sub-25th percentile yak per reception over their career over the past five years or so. All these guys that have come out, Chris Olavé, Garrett Wilson, Marvin Harrison Jr., of course. Even Jeremiah Smith, who is going to maybe be the best

wide receiver prospect of all time, just a 30th percentile yak per reception so far through his first two seasons. So the yak definitely doesn't concern me for Tate. I think it's more usage-based. And yeah, for Tyson, I don't... Can I jump in, Ryan?

Because I actually think, with Olave, like his his yak has been a concern. Marvin Harrison, his yak has been a concern. Gary Wilson's awesome with a ball in his hands, though. What's that?

Gary Wilson's really, really good with a ball in his hand. There's that guy in Seattle, too. Yeah. What's his name? Yeah, I don't know what his yak is, honestly. But he's been completely, like he started out as a 70% slot guy,

and last year became almost exclusively outside guy, and he broke out JSN. But I'm not, I guess what I'm saying is, it doesn't mean that, that, you know, he'll be better at that in the NFL. But I did cut you off. So I apologize for that. Continue, sir. Yeah. No, and that's fair enough.

Yeah. I mean, with each guy, Olave definitely succeeds in the NFL in spite of it. And you can say he's one of the few who kind of has. Wilson, yeah, his, like, NFL yak has been much better than his college numbers would imply. But that's kind of something we see. And I guess, like a larger point. I would have at least when it comes to prospecting through data and through stats, the raw production or like the adjusted production per play, per route, whatever it is. Just the overall production profile

is a lot more important in general and a lot more predictive than some of these like micro stats, like your contested catch rate, which is another green flag for Cornell Tate, but none of these things like individually make a profile to me. I approach it much more from what's your yards per team pass attempt? Like what was your yards per outrun in each year of your career? Just because these like overall like non-split kind of stats have a lot more signal, at least in my experience, as a guy that messes around with modeling with a lot of these stats. So yes, in conclusion, I acknowledge all of these red flags for Tyson, for Tate, for whoever you want to bring them up for. But But yeah, it's never going to like wag the dog for me.

Okay, I got to get a break in here. I do want to give one more stat about Carnell Tate that I don't think I've mentioned on the show. And I've been wanting to do it. Maybe I'd express. But we'll be right back with more. And let's start talking about some sleepers too. All right. We'll be right back on fantasy football today.

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of the last three NFL drafts, and I even threw in Garrett Wilson and Chris Olavay just so people wouldn't say, is on Ohio, stay sharing with this. Looking at the best yards per game season for every wide receiver drafted in the first round the last three years,

Cardinal Tate has the third lowest. the only two people who were less than him were Quentin Johnston and Matthew Golden. That is they averaged fewer yards per game in their best college season than Carnell Tate. Also in the same range were Xavier Worthy and Ricky Pearsall. But yeah, I mean like Abuka, 10 more yards per game. Olave, 104 yards, Garrett Wilson, 96 yards. So that was interesting. Now, I can kind of excuse it

because he actually averaged 89 yards per game instead of 79 yards per game before his calf injury. But that did stand out to me as well. His one good season wasn't even that good compared to the other first round wide receivers over the last three years

and compared to the other guys who came out of Ohio State. On a per opportunity basis, it was really, really, really good. Yeah? 3.17 yards were I run. So that's right on par with Mackay Lemon and Tyson

in terms of best season yard per route run rate, even with a ridiculously low 24% target per route run rate, compared to other players who are drafted this high, that's super, super low, the target per route run rate. That's because he was playing with a guy who has a 31% target per route run rate on the other side of the ball, one of the best receiver prospects we've ever seen during my lifetime. 13.3 yards per target.

If you look at receivers drafted in the first round, the only player is higher digging back to 2017, RCD Lam, Jamar Chase, JASN, Devontasmith, Jalen Waddle, Jameson Williams. Is that Cornell Tates or Jeremiah Smiths? Cardinal Tate. Okay, sorry. That's a really, really good group.

On a per target basis, on a per route basis, even, he was really, really, really good. Okay, let's talk about Mackay Lemon. He's so cool. It's like so exciting. Dave, I love McKay Lemon, Dave. I really do. 5-11, 192 pounds.

He's kind of, he's got that dog in him, Dave, Richard. He does. And he's my favorite wide receiver in part because of the dog. that you mentioned. He is tough. He is physical. He's got good speed. He's got great hands, even though they're small three drops over 175 targets the past two seasons. He lined up everywhere. He's got good bursts off the snap. He runs routes with tempo. Good route variety. Catches everything within his anywhere near his body. He's got it. He's good. He'll run over the middle. He'll block the hell out of guys. He can track the ball downfield just as well as anybody else in this

draft class. I think he's made for what NFL defenses are doing these days, which is a lot of too high trying to keep things underneath. Give him the ball underneath. Let him make plays inside of 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. And he'll make plays after the catch. He will give you extra yardage. He was also great in the red zone last year. He had 11 of 12 targets for seven touchdowns. Two rushes inside the five. That was all just last year. And I just think he can fit into any offense. Whereas with Tate, you kind of vision him as more of an outside perimeter type wide receiver.

Tyson, you know that he can play anywhere. It's just a matter if he can hold up that might limit his routes anyway over the middle of the field. I think Lemon can do it all and do it all well. And so to me, he's, if the landing spot is right for him, I have no

problem taking him as the 102 in a dynasty draft, even if it's super flex. Can I share my screen on McCoy Lemon here? I've got career yards per target on throws of 10 or more air yards among round one receivers 2017 through 2025 you see lemon is up here near the top five with some of the best deep targets that we've had jalen wattle jameson williams jammar chase um and then this is just interesting to me that like if you remove screens his yard per route run rate gets better if you remove slot

routes his yard per route run rate gets better he was good down the field he was good against man covered he's really good against zone coverage as well he avoids tackles every thing analytically is there, except for the fact that he didn't have like a super early breakout, and we really only have one season of him being a full-time dominant player. His second season, he was really efficient as well, but it was really only his third season. He got the full-time, you know, big season that you normally expect for somebody that's drafted this high. But I think, to me, he's not, even though he played in this lot of ton, he profiles more similarly to somebody like JSN in terms of his ability to maybe win in a lot of different ways. At least that's what the

stats said. Yeah. Mackay Lemon had 16 catches of 20 or more air yards. That ranked third in the nation. Chris Brazzell, who gets the George Pickens comp. Six foot four, big downfield guy, ran a great 40. He had 13. He had fewer deep ball catches than Lemon. Jordan Tyson had five.

And Mackay Lemon had 16 last year. That's catches of 20 or more air yards. Ryan, you can weigh in on Lemon if you want, or we can move on to some sleepers, whatever you want. Yeah, overall I really like Lemon. He's my wide receiver three, but it's very narrow. Like the landing spots could absolutely shuffle these guys. All three of the top tier are very close for me.

Lemon has the best per route profile of any receiver in this class. And I agree largely in terms of him being very fantasy friendly. I think he can be more versatile at the NFL level. My only like gripe and like the reason that he's just barely below Tyson and Tate for me is, I just think that it's, I don't have an issue within being a slot receiver, but production in college from the slot specifically is just less predictive of production in the NFL. Just all the slot fades, the wide hashes, it's just a totally different game. And when you look at round one wide receivers that have the highest percentage of their career receiving yards on screens and slot fades, you get a list with Lemon and also with guys like Cadarius Tony, Traylon Burks, Jordan Addison,

not guys that have really hit the ceiling that we want in the NFL. You've also got Jalen Waddle, Jameson Williams on that list. It's kind of up and down. But I just think there's a little more uncertainty to the production profile for Lemon than people are usually going to let on, just from how I view it. But yeah, he could totally be my 102 post draft as well.

It's just the tiniest little gripe I felt like playing devil's advocate because both of these guys we're talking about. I think that's really interesting, though. The slot stuff, I don't know if that's really talked about enough, particularly the slot fades. I basically have never heard that talking about outside of the fantasy points data guys. Yeah, no, that was actually really pissed me off because I don't want to hear anything negative about Mackay Lemon. I'm all in. I didn't, but we needed that.

I needed that little reality check there. All right. Jacob, who are some sleepers at any position in the NFL draft, guys that you're going to be excited about when you hear their name called? Okay. I'll give you one. I really want to hear Ryan's take on this, Dave. Adam, if you have any thoughts on this as well, I'd be curious. I hear no one talk about him, and I think it's because he only weighs 164 pounds.

But I turned on his film yesterday and was just like blown away. Like seriously, it felt like every five to 10 plays. I was like, oh my gosh to my brother and like showing him like these clips. It's Brennan Thompson, who was recruited by big programs but didn't get on the field. And it's like, I don't know if that's about ability or if it's just about the fact that these programs aren't playing anyone who's that small really. They might think that that hurts the run game or whatever. But man, watch this guy run routes. And it's absolutely insane because the speed, it's 426 speed.

And every bit of that shows up. He's just dusting SEC defenders. And he's also got this crazy suddenness in and out of his breaks where he can, you know, scare the crap out of people. They have to give him a huge cushion, just break back to the ball and easily get catches over and over and over. Averaged over three yards per out run. So the production was really, really good as well. and I think it could have been a lot better.

There were plenty of misses. I think his offensive line kind of struggled and was overwhelmed a lot against SEC competition. He's awesome. And so if he gets draft capital an opportunity to play, we've seen some of these smaller receivers lately produced, whether it's Tess Johnson or Tank Dell. I don't know if that size threshold is quite as, you know,

prohibitive as it used to be in terms of finding success as the rules have kind of changed with NFL contact and everything. And so he might, like those guys, has succeeded even with middle of the pack type of athleticism. And I know athleticism, it doesn't matter that much a receiver, but like, in some cases it does. In some cases,

you could just run by people and get huge splash plays and tons of fantasy points, and I'm really, really intrigued by this guy. Brennan Thompson, okay? Mississippi State. But he's a guy, and I don't know, 32 yards as a freshman at Texas,

241 at Oklahoma in his sophomore season, 230 at Oklahoma in his junior season, 1,054 yards in his senior season. So that's an interesting. I mean, Ryan, do we see success from guys who break out in their senior season like that? Not very often, right? So I go on kind of a rant about this at the top of my just wide receiver rankings

and modeling article. But I basically show that production after a guy turns 22 years old, which I believe was the case for Thompson in his final season. It is basically not predictive at all. It has almost no bearing on an NFL player's success if they were productive in college after 22 years old. You really need to look at these age 21 and before seasons to find the signal in production. And yeah, that was kind of my issue with Thompson was just didn't have the early production whatsoever. Yeah, I won't get into all the size stuff that I think Jacob just covered pretty well.

But yeah, I don't mind it. But there are definitely other kind of really deep sleepers in this class that I would prefer to a Thompson. But I totally see the vision. I would just like, yeah, the career yards per outrun is just a stat I wouldn't want to use for a guy that didn't play that much until his final season. Because that's always going to be just inflated for guys that aren't running routes until they are much older and are like are the number one receiver on their team and such, right? compared to a Carnell Tate, for example, who is playing earlier, getting on the field.

But, yeah, of course, his dealing with target competition isn't the most senior receiver in his receiving room. So, yeah, those would be my gripes with the Thompson. But, hey, he's a day three sleeper. I'm not going to come out against him that hard here. He's basically free in drafts. And to be clear, the reason that I'm excited about him is not because of his per route numbers. It's because he looks like he cannot be covered by anyone, even the best level of competition. And then it's like, well, he did also have.

average three yards per round because sometimes people come on here and they're like, Matthew Golden, look, he cannot be covered. He's so good. You know what I mean? But it's like, why do you never do anything? You know, this guy, this guy actually did produce, you know, against SEC. So I do think that's meaningful. Okay. Dave, you have any sleepers you like? I got a couple. The first one, let's stay with receivers. Deshaun, stribling from Ole Miss. I think he's well built, 6-2, 207 pounds, good acceleration, good straight-line speed, big, reliable hands. He does have work to do in terms of technique, running routes, competing for Kessie catches. Those are things that he could certainly get better at.

He does have short arms. That's going to be an issue for some teams. I don't know if his quickness is ever going to be improved upon either, but the straight line speed is nice. I think any team that misses out on those perimeter receivers like Tate, like Denzel Boston, they want somebody who's kind of close to that, they would look at at stribling and say that's somebody who's comparable and maybe he'll be a round three pick. I really like Daman Claiborne out of Wake Forest. He's he,

I wrote in my running back preview story. He's teapot sized because he's short and stout. He can fly. He's got very good speed. I think he can be a dangerous zone scheme runner, excellent acceleration, good vision. He's willing to be physical. He just doesn't necessarily give good achievement in doing it.

He does have a hands issue. He's got eight career drops. he has 10 fumbles, sorry, I'm reading this, 10 career fumbles, three of them were on kickoffs. That's something that a team's going to have to deal with. And if they can improve it, at least in terms of him holding onto the football, on kickoffs and on carries, I think he can find a role where he's at least a part-time running back, but he's got great speed to go along with that type of low height,

but strong size that we kind of look for in some running backs. He had a pretty, Demand Claiborne out of wake for us, pretty high percentage of carries for zero or negative yards 19% of his carries he's kind of a home run hitter a little bit of that i had a hard time keeping him out of my top five at running back you know you're asking for sleepers so i don't want to go and be like oh yeah geranium price is a sleep no no i we're talking guys that you might find in round three of your of your rookie only draft a guy who had an even higher rate of carries for zero or negative yards was mike was mike Washington Jr., 21% of his carries were zero or negative yards, and almost 8% were 20 or more

yards, which was really high in this class, much better than Jeremiah Love, believe it or not. That's Mike Washington, who's not a sleeper, but he gets, you know, just bringing him up. Ryan, any sleepers for you? Yeah, I'll give you two. At wide receiver, Kevin Coleman, Jr. is my favorite kind of day three type of sleeper. His sophomore season, he was pretty much matching Chris Bell in raw production in Yards for Outrun, goes to Mississippi State and has the second best season by yards per team pass attempt of any power conference wide receiver before the age of 21 in this class. Yeah, just insane production there. A little bit of a like Mickey Mousey offense would understand kind of similar to like what we're.

we see at Tennessee. Maybe you don't take the production at face value, but this is a day three guy who was incredibly productive in an early age. Moves to Missouri averages the same receiving yards per game that Luther Burden did the year before. So we've kind of seen him move around, succeed in multiple spots. He is small. He is probably a slot only player. Those are your red flags or your limiting factors. But yeah, as like a round three dynasty rookie draft sleeper, I like him quite a bit. And I love the DeMond Claiborne call. I might raise you a Jamari Taylor as a sleeper running back that I'm kind of into who's not as undersized as Claiborne, but still a little bit smaller, but active in the passing game. Of course, we only have one FCS season or FBS season, excuse me, out of him, spent most of his career at NC Central.

But in terms of breaking tackles, in terms of targets per outrun, in that final season. He's on a list among day three guys, if he does hear his name called, with names like Cam Scadaboo, Bucky Irving, Kenny Gainwell, just some guys that we have seen

succeed as receivers, succeed in breaking tackles at the NFL level. So he's kind of an interesting name for me. The red flag would be a 4.6.3 second 40 yard dash at his pro day. But hey, we take the red flags with all these sleepers. So he's one that I like quite a bit. Okay, that's Jamari Taylor out of Virginia.

I don't think my guy really qualifies as a sleeper, but I like Max Claire a lot, tight end out of Ohio State. Oh, yeah, yes. He's very productive at Purdue, and he led Purdue in receiving by 300 yards, and he's apparently a better blocker than Eli Stowers. So I don't know when he's going to get drafted.

I feel like Max Clare out of Ohio State doesn't really get talked about, like Stowers. but I don't know. I feel like he's probably going to play more in line, right? No. I think he's possibly. More than stowers, more than stowers, I would say,

not more than out. Oh, yeah, more than scours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to be clear, like there's even like the Jack Anders guy who Ryan brought up who like really blocks his butt off, there's a ton of tight ends in this class, including those two that have like 10th percent of lower arm length and are like 240.

20, 245 pounds. Yeah. And those type of tight-ins just do not really survive in line. It's very rare for that type of a tie-in to play in line. Basically, the only reason that that happens is if a team thinks they're so good as a receiver that they're willing to just do that, which we've kind of seen with Sam Leporta, but even Sam Leporta has a bigger frame than these guys. It's a really weirdly small class.

It is. Yeah, it is. They do have Sam Roush, who's 267 pounds and ran the best three cone among the... And has first percentile arm somehow. Yes, he is. Very short arms. Very short arms, yeah. All right.

Well, those are some names for you there. And this is a terrific episode. I appreciate Ryan and Jacob coming on. Dave, you know, thanks. Shut up. Just shut up. Jacob, what's coming up on Beyond the Box Score? Always good to see you, Dave.

Adam, Ryan as well. Really enjoyed this. Beyond the Box score, we're digging into wide receivers and running backs this week. We're going to give some comparisons to like recent classes in terms of how these prospects stack up in terms of how we saw those prospects compared to these ones for fantasy purposes. Stack them all up, give you some comparisons for these guys. So I mentioned the Titan class that really short arms and a lot of small players.

We did the same thing last week, the Titan position where we went through and looked at which titans have succeeded for fantasy purposes out of the last like five to eight draft classes. and what were their measurables like compared to these guys. So you kind of form a framework for how these tight-ins might fit. And then if you want to get into individual profiles, I did provide, you know, Max Claire, Jack Andres, all these guys that I really, really like. I talk about on the channel.

So that's 15, 20 minutes on those players if you want to watch those. And I'm going to be doing that for the running backs and receivers this week as well. I'm going to have Fernando Mendoza profile out, Casey Concepcion. A lot of just giving you more of the nitty-gritty in terms of the film, and the data with Dan Schneier for this, this exciting class. I know that people have been like down on this class overall, but if we get some decent landing spots, I think that it actually is going to be better than people realize. I really do like Concepcion, Omar Cooper Jr., some of these later round one players.

And then I really like the tight ends as well. And then we didn't get too much into writing back today, but, you know, David, Ryan brought up some interesting sleepers. I really, really like Jonah Coleman. I think there's plenty to like it in this class. if we get decent landing spots. And so that's what we're doing beyond the boxers,

we're just kind of trying to help you understand the specific skill sets for these players and how they might fit at the NFL level. And then once we get landing spots, you know,

does the fit actually make sense? Might we see something in your one? You know what's interesting, Dave? Ryan is 26. When I was 26 and certainly when you were 26, this job that Ryan does now wouldn't have existed.

The stats that we talked about today I'm 41, I'm almost 42. This job as a fantasy analyst, draft analyst, has changed so much. It's insane. I don't even know when I was 26 years old. It was like, oh, yards per carry. You know, what is this?

Not quite. Yards per carry, you knew. No, of course. But I don't know what else there was. I wasn't even talking about catch rate. I don't even know if that was on the pro football reference page back. I don't remember. I don't know if pro football reference existed in 2002.

That's when I was 26, that's the year that it was. But I mean, you guys know me. I'm old school. So I was brought up in this business by Gilbrant and those types of guys. And they always preached film, film, film. So it's always been where I've gone ahead of the stats. But I do love the stats. Yeah, I know.

And I especially love shows like this because there's data that I haven't really thought about that both of these guys, Ryan and Jacob, brought to the table. Adam, you brought absolutely nothing to the table today. But the other guys definitely did. And I think that's kind of how teams operate now. It's not just film as the end-all be-all for drafting players. I think they do have to look at the analytics. And I know a general manager who will not draft players based on certain analytic thresholds that they don't meet.

If a certain player doesn't have a certain type size to them or they've got too low of any of these metrics that we're talking about, they will disqualify them from their draft sports. It's literally happening. So data is absolutely a part of what teams are using to evaluate these players. All right. We're going to leave with this, Ryan, your favorite movie, your favorite food, your favorite ice cream flavor. Go. Oh, man. Favorite ice cream flavor, mint chocolate chip. I know that's sometimes a controversial one. You're invited back. Good job. Sweet. Hell yeah. Favorite food got got to be chicken parm. I had chicken parm last. night. It was delicious. Just a classic. Like this guy. Favorite movie, that's like really tough. I don't

know if I have a favorite movie. I'm so, I'm like not a movie guy at all. I'm, I'm too young. My attention span is too short. I play video games. I watch football. I don't watch movies, man. Of course, I watch movies. But yeah, I just couldn't name a good one off the dome there. But yeah, thanks so much for having me. Movies suck now. Like, you're in an era of TV shows. You're in this. The TV show era, movies are terrible now. Please. All you do is come on our shows and talk about what TV series you're watching.

Me? It's all you do. No, TV shows are great. But when I was growing up, we had epic movies. My favorite movie is Braveheart. We don't have Braveheart anymore. You know, so. Brain fart.

Braveheart. Oh. Gamer Eric said Brain fart. I was like, what movie is that? Have you seen Die Hard, Ryan? I have not seen Die Hard. I get like the cultural reference. to it and stuff.

But yeah, I've never actually sat down and watched Die Hard. Have you, Jacob? Yeah. And you agree that it's a Christmas movie, right? I don't care. Sure. You said sure. All right. All right, everybody.

Thanks for watching and listening. We'll talk to you on Wednesday. We'll talk about the NFL veterans who could be affected most by the NFL draft. Then we will be on the air after round one on Thursday night. After rounds two and three on Friday night. and after the rest of the draft on Saturday. Talk to you to you to basketball today. Podcasts.

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