Fantasy Football Today - Beyond the Box Score: Patrick Mahomes, Rico Dowdle, Favorite Buy Lows (10/13 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: October 13, 2025If we had to make a Super Bowl pick right now, who are we taking!? Also, what did we think of Lions-Chiefs game (3:30)? Are we more encouraged by Jameson Williams or Isiah Pacheco? Is Patrick Mahomes ...a sell high? What do the underlying metrics say? ... News and notes (20:30) plus snap counts and other stats (21:30) like the Chargers wide receiver usage, the Titans backfield usage and much more ... Four Big Topics: Rico Dowdle's value (32:00); Eagles offensive woes (40:00); Best and worst playoff schedules (48:00); Favorite Buy Low candidates (55:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
All right, what's up, everybody?
Welcome to Beyond the Box Score.
This is Fantasy Football today, presented by BetMGM, Make It Legendary.
We're going to go through some of our favorite by-low candidates.
We're going to take an early look at playoff schedules.
Playoff.
Yeah, any players that might have good or bad playoff schedules.
Josh Allen and James Cook have bad fantasy playoff schedules.
What should that mean for you?
Bejohn Robinson has tough matchups.
Don't worry about that.
But, yeah, we're also going to talk about last night's game and so much more.
And Dan, Jacob and I were talking about.
off the air. Tough question for you to start the show. You ready?
Uh-oh. What is it? Who do you think is going to be in the Super Bowl?
All right. Let's think about this.
Tough this year.
I don't think it's going to be the Eagles. So start by saying that. And that's the common team that was projected.
We'll give you 15 seconds. I don't think you even need that, but 15 seconds they answer this.
Okay. How about the lions? They finally.
do it they finally break through the
Detroit Lions against
this is where it gets tough
the Buffalo Bills the matchup
everyone's been waiting for what everybody
want no honestly that's what we all want
Jacob's pretty convinced the Chiefs are the best team in football now
yeah I don't think you're getting what you want Chiefs Bucks
how about that Chiefs Bucks
I like that I think the Bucks defense might have some issues as we get
further along so many injuries there but I
would love to see that too Baker Mayfield's the man
And you're probably right.
Why would I ever want to bet against Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs?
That's something I've never done actually, so I probably won't do it now.
I'm going to hope that, I'm going to not hope, but I'm going to assume the Eagles get it figured out.
I'll say Eagles.
They won't.
Eagles bills this year.
All right.
First of all, I'm glad you changed that from I'm going to hope to assume.
Because if any Giants fans ever said the word, I'm going to hope do Eagles get it figured out.
You will never lift that down.
I didn't say it.
I got some things to make fun of Dan for a little bit later,
but let's start with Kansas City 30 and Detroit 17.
And the lions were a little short-handed.
They played without cornerback, Terry, and Arnold.
That could be the case for a little while.
And they played without their left tackle, Taylor Decker.
So they really didn't have a great game offensively.
They also had a touchdown pass from Gibbs to golf on their opening possession.
But it was, I mean, this is so...
That could cost me my matchup.
That could cost me my key home league matchup.
Go on.
Yeah, but this is so chiefs, right?
They didn't even throw a flag.
on the play, and then they overturned it.
I mean, it's just so chiefs.
I wouldn't say it's so chiefs.
I don't like that narrative that the chiefs get callsing.
I love that narrative.
That's like my favorite joke with my buddies.
Check is in the mail.
Thank you.
All right.
So, Jacob, what are your fantasy takeaways from Chiefs and Lions?
So we got more Jamir Gibbs again, 70% snap rate.
Maybe it's because, you know, they were kind of playing from behind.
I don't really know.
But that's twice in six games now that he's at a 70% snap rate.
and prior to this year, we'd never seen him hit that rate in a game that David Montgomery was
healthy for. We got a bunch of our guy, Isaac Tesla, but he's not really part of the target
distribution. They tried to get Jameson Williams going. That was good to see what he ended up with.
Six for 66, 18 fantasy points. Love that. Never know if you're going to be able to trust them,
but if you are in best ball leagues or anything like that, that's good. Man, Sam LaPorteur is so good.
I don't know. It's just a fantastic game all around, super fun. On the chief side, it's like
so clear that Rushie Rice, I feel like is about to come back and smash, like the
juju stuff, like all the quick targets and stuff like that. There's so much that's going
to go to him, I think, and I think Adam's got some good stats on that. And then we got a lot more
Isaiah Pacheco this week. They've basically gone away from any Breschard Smith backfield snaps.
We'll see how it develops. But right now, Breschard Smith is, he only played six snaps in
this game. He didn't play in the first half on offense. And only two of his six snaps were in the
backfield and on those plays it was like a fake pitch to him and then an end around to Xavier
worthy or like a fake throw to him and then a screen to Kareem Hunt. So it's like they're basically
treating him more like a offensive weapon than a running back, which is a bit unfortunate for
anybody who's like trying to buy the breakout there. I think it's probably not coming if I had
to guess. I think like Rice coming back might mean even less for Shard Smith. I wonder what
rice is going to mean for Kelsey because the two guys who are doing the real short
area stuff are Juju Smith-Suster and Kelsey. Obviously yesterday was a bad game for Xavier
Worthy. And I've gone from being so excited about Xavier Worthy where I feel like no matter what
with Rishu Rice, he's going to be great to just not really being sure because they are throwing
the ball to so many different players right now, really distributing it. And Mahomes is running a lot too.
So I don't really know what to do with Worthy. I don't really know what the Rishu Rice effect is
going to be. I have a ton of stats on this game and whatnot. But, you know, Kelsey actually, I thought
the last two games he's looked pretty good and you know this game in particular um so i'm i don't
know i don't know if he he was so bad with rishy rice last year four targets per game he looks way
better than last year if he can catch the ball i don't know what's going on with that but i think he
does look good i agree with you i mean look i think he's more of a hold for me not necessarily a cell
but i could see him really i could see all of these guys really getting crushed by rice if
Rice comes in and starts getting basically 10 targets a game.
Anything from you, Dan?
Yeah, I just think maybe the most underrated storyline on the Chiefs is the return of the
king from a fantasy standpoint, Patrick Mahomes.
Where's he at now?
Number one, number one per game in four point, number two per game and six point behind
Lamar Jackson, which weird, you think that'd be flipped.
But I could make a case.
I could make a case that Patrick Mulhoff.
Holmes, based on his stats, based on the beyond the box score stuff, that he is the biggest
sell high in football, right, in fantasy right now.
And what's that case based on?
The case is his passing hasn't really been that much better.
It's all his rushing.
He is rushing, he's averaging like 37 rushing yards per game.
His previous career high is 24.3 rushing guards per game.
He already has four rushing touchdowns.
That ties a career high.
What is he on pace for in terms of passing?
4,290 yards, 31 touchdowns, six interceptions.
You love the touchdown interception rate,
but 4,300 yards and 31 touchdowns is not QB1.
I mean, that's not, that's, you know,
you're talking, flirting with the top five or something like that.
So he's doing something from a rushing perspective
that we've never seen before from him.
He's on pace for 629 yards and 11 touchdowns rushing.
He hasn't done any of this without, with Rishie Rice yet.
So that's the good thing.
Well, that's here.
But I am looking at, like,
I'm pretty high. I'm a home. I think he's playing great, but I can't ignore the fact that the yards per attempt are still really low.
His deep ball accuracy is pretty much garbage. So that's kind of the yin and yang here's like if there's a lot of good stuff, there's, there's some troubling stuff as well.
I think the rushing, while it won't stay at these like ridiculous levels and we're not going to get 11 rushing TDs, it's going to stay up pretty much because this is a solution he's found in my mind to how defense is scheme to stop him.
And now with Rishi Rice back in, I think we're going to have a lot more situations where they're just moving the football really well with this group of receivers.
Like you said, they distribute the ball well.
Last night, we didn't even see anything from Taekwon Thornton, who became a big piece, you know, who knows what will happen with that.
But it's not necessary at this time.
But Rice is a really good player for Mahomes, in my opinion.
That's why I brought him up.
Like already at that QB1 per game rank in 4 point passing QB2 and 6 point, with Rice coming back, I have high expectations for him.
And I think, you know, he wasn't drafted in that elite tier at all.
You got a pretty good discount on him this year.
So I was early on him last year,
but this may be the year I was expecting from him last year,
maybe coming this year with all these receivers around him.
He's so locked in right now.
I'm having so much fun watching this, like, old, like, gritty version of Mahomes
that we got here all of a sudden.
He's like mad all the time, just running people over.
I love it.
Yeah, and it does look more like the Lamar where, like,
it's just, there's no solution because he'll run.
And no matter what you really do defensively right now, he's finding solutions, I think.
Yeah, and someone says, sure, Adam, except we've already seen Mahomes BQB1 multiple times.
He is back.
He's elite.
Right.
I'm just pointing out that he's doing it in a very different way than what he did when he was elite.
To me, the hope is that Rice, you know, does all the stuff that Rice does, and worthy is the big play guy.
But we're not really seeing the last two weeks especially.
We're not really seeing the big plays.
I think he had that one to Taekwon Thornton two weeks ago where he just kind of heaved it up.
definitely not fully healthy who worthy oh worthy i don't know i mean i could see it from how he's
moving really i don't think he's no yeah i don't i want to talk about the lions guys because
there's an ankle injury all year yeah go on where do you think jemir gibbs is per game right now
who top 10 four five is he that how much higher he's 10th yeah going into this week this was a bad
week for jimir gibbs um just just just an off game 17 carry 65 yards one catch no yards
Going into this week, he was, I think, the number six running back per game.
Yeah, number six per game in full PPR.
He was averaging 19.1 PPR fantasy points per game.
Going into this week, that is almost exactly what Jemir Gibbs was averaging last year
before the David Montgomery injury.
And it was why you could have been a little hesitant to draft him with a top five pick
because he really, 19 points per game is very, very good.
But when you consider that Christian McCaffrey,
what, has scored at least 22 points.
I think every single game, you know?
You're not getting top five production right now from Jamir Gibbs.
You're only getting five targets in the last three games.
I don't know what that's all about.
I think that'll change.
But it's interesting because obviously it feels like he's having a great season.
But right now he's not at 19 points per game.
That was going into yesterday's really bad game.
So is he just going to be that kind of 19 point guy?
Or can he be 21, 22?
It's kind of a big difference.
maybe it doesn't really matter you're starting him every week but just just wanted to bring it up he's
basically been you know what he was with montgomery last year yeah these are also the weeks you can
kind of i think predictably if you have better options sit a player like david montgomery
yeah i mean you know at least the ones where you can project the the game script to fall like
this but it's tough to say for the lion's rest of year how many games there will be like that
montgomery actually outscored gibbs and ppr even though gibbs had 17 carries
Yeah, with the receptions.
Not great.
So last, are you more encouraged by Jameson Williams,
who had six catches, 66 yards,
and a touchdown on seven targets,
or Isaiah Pacheco, who played 77% of the snaps,
who got his first three snaps of the season
from the five-yard liner closer,
who ran five routes on third down,
after running a combined four routes on third down
the entire year going into this game.
Are you, and I don't know what the deal was.
I know Kareem Hunt did get banged up in this game,
So that may have contributed to some of this.
But are you more encouraged by Jamison Williams or Isaiah Pacheco?
Take it in.
Please say Isaiah Pacheco so I can sell them on my dynasty teams that I have.
Yeah, I don't find much encouragement from either of those two players.
I'll go to Jamo.
All right.
So, Pachmo, the route depth has been a little lower in two of the past three games,
more reasonable.
And he's gotten seven or eight.
targets in two of the last three games.
Right.
So that's encouraging.
Yeah, for sure.
Like, everything is funneled through Amano St.
Brown, and I think that, like, we're starting to see them find ways to get him involved
more and more Jameson Williams.
So that's why I went with him.
I think it's encouraging for both of them, like, Pacheco, as much as it's, you know, not really
coming together for fantasy production, like, if he's in this role and the offense is what we
think it's about to, like, elevate to, then, like, there's going to be touchdowns available.
Adam, you know, brought up the Redsend usage, and that's real.
That has pretty much all gone to Kareem.
So unless it was just a one-week thing with Kareem,
we'll keep an eye on, like, the injury reporting and stuff like that,
coach speak index and see what everybody's saying there in Kansas City.
But if we can expect this at all, and it does kind of feel like they're phasing up
Richard Smith in the back field, then like, yeah, even if he's one of the worst running
but starting running backs in terms of efficiency, you could get you there for fantasy.
He's not that bad.
What's he averaging?
He's solid there.
He's probably over four yards per carry, right?
He's not the Andrew Swift level.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, I would have to think he's in the bottom five
in terms of like rushing yards of expectation and stuff.
When I watch him, it's amazing to me how little amounts from all of the movement
that's happening.
That's true.
4.2 yards per carry right now for.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Don't block the run well either.
They still don't block the run well, the Chiefs.
Yeah, that's fair.
I feel like they should be able to run up the interior.
Like I don't understand that.
You really should with Dr. Smith and Creed Humphrey.
It makes no sense.
but nothing ever looks to be they look like they never get pushed on the ball up front yeah look
i dropped pacheco i'd say in three leagues over the last couple of weeks and it's hard to say i regret it
i mean you have to make the decisions that make sense for your team i think i dropped him for you know
like michael carterico doubt all then i you know that helped me win weeks but but it may be one
that i end up losing on uh if if this real if this role change is real i'm not convinced
it is because i don't know what kareem hunt's injury status was he did come back in the
game.
All right.
A quick side note that I won't spend too much time on just find amazing.
We'll probably talk about this player a little bit today and a lot this week.
Sometimes like the inefficiencies of the NFL, like Rico Dowdell, like I just watched
your full cut up of him this week, Jacob.
I watched all last week snaps.
He's a really good freaking football player.
One of the better ones that I watched this week.
And like the Car, the Panthers got him for nothing this offseason.
Absolutely nothing.
How many teams could he help right now?
But you know what?
You know who got even less than him?
Giovante Williams got even less money than him
and that's worked out for the Cowboys
and also I think you have to
I don't know I mean I haven't watched any of it
but you should watch the tape of him
from the first four weeks of the season
because what did we just see?
He played Miami and Dallas in his last two games
the Jets had the same exact schedule
Miami and then Dallas
and then they poop themselves in London
granted against arguably the best defense in football
so before the Miami and Dallas games
Rico Dada was averaging, I think, 3.2 yards per carry with a long of 10 yards.
He was actually less efficient than Chuba Hubbard, fewer carries.
So I want to take everything with a grain of salt.
He is our first topic.
He's one of our big topics today.
So I'll save all the notes for that.
Jacob, tell me what's coming up this week on Beyond the Box Score.
Yeah, Beyond the Box Score, we are going to, before the season, Dan, and I provided, like, our value tiers.
and we did like S tier A tier B tier C tier, we nailed George Pickens at the top.
Love that.
We'll take another victory lap on that.
We're going to look back at those and just kind of like give you an evaluation of where we're at.
Like if we were to draft right now who would be the best values and looking at some like trade charts and stuff like that where people are rest of season.
And then of course give you a rest of season rankings update as well.
Okay.
Good stuff.
We're going to take a quick break here and come back and go through the news and notes.
We have updates on Garrett Wilson and Puganakua,
and we'll get into the snap counts and the stats that you need to know
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Man, look at this.
Rich is yelling at me.
Rico Dowdall, all caps, was not starting the first four weeks.
Stop downplaying great football.
So there's, no, there's a lot more to it than just matchups.
But I went, look at my notes from the preseason
because he averaged 4.8 yards per carry for the Cowboys last year
when he got the lead role.
So that was great.
But if you break it down between good,
a lot of good matchups, good matchups and bad matchups,
there was a big difference in his efficiency.
Again, this is our first big topic, so we'll get to it.
I'm not trying to downplay what he did.
I think he's going to be the best Carolina running back going forward.
I'm just saying, Miami and Dallas are arguably the two best matchups for any player,
you know, at any position in football.
That's a good point.
It really is.
Yeah.
People like to yell about Rico Dattle, I've found out.
I think he's a really odd top.
He's the wildow factor.
He gets people going.
I like him, man.
I couldn't believe the Cowboys waited so long to give him the keys last year, you know?
They waited too long.
And I will want to talk about that this week, Jacob, on Beyond the Boxco, just the difference
in because I obviously had the.
that, you know, the take I had on the Panthers offensive line that I've really seen,
we have to reevaluate that take.
And obviously, most of it's been in the run game, but it's allowing them to do things
in the past game that I was not expecting.
I loved the designs they had this week.
There were so many cool, like, ways to get space with the polars and stuff they were doing.
I've never really seen it.
Like, it's generally been kind of boring from their run game.
It's just been like Chuba being a dog.
Yes.
And that talks to Adam's point, though, because you can do those things in the run game
when you have good game script and you're playing the Cowboys.
and the dolphins, and you can run on those types of teams.
Will that continue for the Panthers?
It's a good point, I think, Adam, as far as their run game goes.
Well, remember, they also lost their guards, right?
They've got, that was the whole idea.
Right, right.
And they're still running so effectively.
It's kind of crazy.
All right, news and notes, Lamar Jackson expected back after the buy.
Amari and Hampton's going to be out more than four weeks, according to NFL Network.
Amari D. Mercado left with an ankle injury.
Garrett Wilson has a knee injury.
Pooka Nakua, they haven't ruled them out this week.
It feels like the safest bet to make right now for Puka from a fantasy standpoint.
If you have him, would just be to assume he's missing this week, then they have the buy,
and then hopefully back after that.
But they haven't ruled Puka out this week.
He has an ankle injury.
A mecca abuka, hamstring injury.
They have two games, then a buy.
We'll see how long the Bucca's out.
Calvin Ridley, hamstring injury, Marvin Harrison Jr.
Concussion, David Nujoku, thigh injury, Mike Gassicki, pictorial injury.
And we'll leave it at that.
And we'll get into the snap counts and the other stats, although I did find it funny.
I saw two teams amongst, I don't know why I was just looking, but in our leagues.
Well, in fact, I played one of them that was undefeated with Pooka Nakua and Ameca Buka and undefeated no longer, you know, unfortunately.
That'll do it.
So snap counts and other stats, Jacob, anything jump out of you?
Sure, yeah, like the Chargers, I thought.
were they were really interesting this week they uh with queen johns then out i thought maybe it would
be kandre lambert smith the rookie who stepped into that ex receiver role that's what we saw
during the preseason was that kLS did the outside perimeter bound stuff um and tray harris
the rookie they drafted in i think round two was more of like the guy they're moving around um kind
of like they do with keenan allen and lad mcconkey but i think that that was maybe just to
him some experience doing that stuff.
And so this week it was like pretty much all Trey Harris.
Kandar Lambert Smith only had a 28% snap rate.
So that's interesting to me.
Like I think the sickos will be interested in that because they wanted Trey Harris to be a thing.
He had the team lead in snaps at 83%.
And then another sicko, no here, Arronda Gadsden, this tied in that everybody got pretty
excited about a couple weeks ago, 75% snap rate.
He had a fumble, but I thought it looked pretty good again, bounced back and kept
getting opportunities after that.
Okay.
Kamane, Vidal, 67%.
Do you guys, have you gotten a chance to watch that film?
Do you have any felt on there?
No, I want to do that for tomorrow's show, Jacob.
I really want to see because very surprising there to see how that backfield split up.
Hey, who do you play?
What do you say?
What was the matchup?
The Dolphins, yeah.
Ran all over, of course, yeah.
But, yeah, played a lot.
Hassan Haskins is who was the presumed starter, the reported starter.
and as a guy that, like, you know, Harbaugh loves,
you see him the block of the end of the game
was so clutched by Haskins.
Did you see that play where he ran back
and got into the play on the, yeah.
Oh, on the McCaffrey catch?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
On the Macaackey catch,
he, like, got way back in the play
when he seemed like he was all the way out of it.
And so, like, that was just interesting to me
that Vidal was the one who got all the work,
got all the playing time,
because I think Haskins definitely has the trust of the team.
And Vidal is somebody that we really liked a lot last year.
He was around six pick,
But a lot of his collegiate metrics were really strong at Troy.
And his preseason film was really fun too.
But he never really got an opportunity last year.
But he, I mean, we don't really know what's going to happen with Hampton.
So I think he's, I don't like, I'm curious if he's somebody you would buy.
I just got him in Dynasty for dirt cheap because I've got like James Cook on a buy this week.
And I think he's just a good guy to have to kind of like fill in if you need him.
Like I'm probably going to start him over Tony Pollard this next week.
Oh, yeah.
You know what I mean?
like that so like i'm out on pollard he played fewer snap a lot fewer snaps than spears it was a
really bad week for pauler you could see it up there jacob has the graphic up 42% snap right for
pollard um and we saw way more um way more tajers obviously a game script thing but i mean
that game script well it was a sticky game script with the titans it was against the raiders
yeah exactly are you are you are you ever going to feel confident that they're not going to be
playing from behind 59% snap rate for tajey spears in this school
Yeah. I mean, I think you have to ask yourself who's a better pickup. I don't even think it's a question, but Kamani Vidal or Tajay Spears. Vidal is obviously a better pickup now. But Spears might average seven PPR fantasy points per game, you know, and be someone you can just throw in there if you need it. And I think this week was probably a lesson. Hey, sometimes I need someone who can just get me seven points, right? I'm desperate. I'm injured by weeks. And he's going to have a role rest of season. I think when he's,
Hampton comes back, Vidal, unless he does amazingly in this next month, I think Vidal probably
has almost no role. Real quick, I want to clarify for people because they're talking about the
Raiders' defense. My point is that the Raiders, on any given week, are going to have one of the lowest
implied totals from Vegas. They're not expected to score very many points. So that's like the type of
team that you will probably be playing with a lead or even in a neutral game, whereas basically any
other opponent, the Titans are going to be huge underdogs, which is a type of game where we see
more Tai J. Spears playing time. Right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anything else?
I have a lot of stuff, but floor is yours.
Tell you?
Okay, so just some more snap count things.
Mason Taylor played 95% of the snaps.
I mentioned on the WaverWire show on Tuesday.
He has great, great matchups after the Denver game.
So don't necessarily give up.
I'm not saying he's going to be great every week.
I don't even know if he's going to be good.
But if you believed in Mason Taylor, he's got great matchups,
and he played almost every snap.
Travis Hunter had seven targets.
He didn't do anything with it.
Four catches for 15 yards, but he had seven targets,
and he played 78% of the offensive snaps.
88% route rate for Travis Hunter.
That's great.
He ran 44 routes.
He hadn't run more than 30 routes in a game so far.
It'd be great if Trevor Lawrence could get the football to these guys.
Yeah.
Let's see.
I had the note on Spears.
I had the note on the Chargers, guys.
How about Chase Brown?
It's just not looking good for him.
54% of the snaps.
Summage P.
P. Ryan had six carries in the game.
Three of P.
Ryan's carries came on third down.
So Chase Brown had nine of 12 running back carries on first and second down.
But honestly, I would expect that to be 11 of 12 or 12 of 12.
And he's just not playing that much.
And when Abuka was out in the second half,
Tess Johnson and Cameron Johnson played a lot more snaps than Sterling Shepard,
but they all ran about the same amount of routes.
And Zach Sharper, and he played 14 more snaps than Ken Walker.
And that is pretty much all I got there.
This Tess Johnson breakout has been pretty fun.
Yeah, Tess Johnson, really interesting player because his tape was really good at college.
And, you know, when he went to, I believe it was either senior bowl week or the bowl week that he played in.
I remember reading reports of this guy's just getting open.
Like he's really hard to guard.
But he was like five foot seven, right?
He's like five foot.
He's tiny.
He's really, he's like 150 pounds.
Like he's in the zero percentile when it comes to height and weight, I think, at least on the weight standpoint.
He's the smallest prospect I've ever seen.
Yeah.
So it's like, how would.
he hold up and how would it translate to the NFL? But he was really good at college and he looks
pretty damn good. Like that route he ran for the touchdown. He got separation made a really sick
play in the football too. So analytics were insane too. But he was like didn't test well at all.
Right. He's tiny. So that was the problem. What do we do with this guy? But yeah, he looks like,
I mean, he's making plays. He's out. He's making plays as a pro. Baker after the game was like,
that wasn't the route that I was expecting him to run. But he adapted to where the defense was.
and I was able to hit him on it.
And so, like, that says a lot about a young player
to be able to do that, you know.
But that also makes sense, like, given his profile,
like he was so productive, I think,
for those reasons by not having the physical traits maybe.
And they've already ruled out Chris Godwin
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Now, before we get into our big topics,
I think we should just review something
because I went into the day yesterday talking with Jacob,
I think off the air, and I said,
man, my lineups are terrible.
I think I'm going to get swept by Dan Schneier.
I think he's going to beat me in all three of the leagues
that we're facing each other.
So, you know, things don't always work out the way you assume.
So let's take a look.
First, let's give Dan credit.
Oh, wow.
Dominant Dan Schneier crushing me in the Bake Burger
dynasty league, obviously.
I don't know if I'll ever lose a game in that league.
We did a redraft.
What was that?
Two years ago now?
You know, a full, not redraft.
What do they call it?
A startup draft.
Yeah.
And I don't think there's ever been a better dynasty team drafted in a startup
draft than my team.
And I will, I'd say that knowing that I'm about to take a lot of heat for that type
of comment.
But take a look at that roster.
Let it run through your veins and just understand that I don't lose any of these weeks.
I'm like 300 points above the rest of people in that.
Now let's get.
all the leagues.
I'm going to take a look at the rest of it here.
I just set that up for my downfall.
Superflex League.
Well, you've got a 5% chance.
I honestly wish I felt better about this.
You still have Bijan Robinson.
I wish you felt better.
I have a 5% chance.
Yeah, you still have Bijat all these cuds in my lineup.
Look at all those injured things next to names.
Injury.
Yeah, I got lucky there.
But that's one in one.
So then how about how about the last one, the Superflex,
the new Dynasty League that we have.
Oh, no, I have to start, like, idiots in that league.
I have no options.
Everyone's injured in that league for me.
I love that Dan gets doubled up.
He's losing by literally 80 points, and he's like, oh, I had two injuries.
But he has Bijan.
He's not blaming it on the injuries.
I got my butt kicked.
No, I got my buck.
That's why I had to drag at the beginning.
All right, so here we go, the Superflex Dynasty League.
Look at that.
You got a 1% chance.
You need a big 30-point game from Kyle Pitts tonight.
Oh, great.
That's going to happen.
You lost to R.J. Harvey.
I had to start Quentin Johnson.
Look at my team.
I had McLaurin injured.
I have, look at my injury.
I have Quentin Johnson in my lineup.
I had to pick up Sterling Shepard for this game.
You have no excuse me.
I should have picked up Sterling Shepard for this game.
Adam, why did you have to start Quentin Johnson?
Who made you do that?
I got no one to drop.
I mean, I got Christian Kirk, Darnel Mooney, Malik neighbors, Mike Evans.
And it's Dynasty.
You can't drop.
Oh, it's Dynasty.
It's Dynasty.
You know, you can't drop Caleb Johnson.
I had to drop Taysom Hill.
You could.
I hope not.
I hope that.
All right.
Well, that was fun.
Thank you all for letting me do that.
Yeah, fun for you.
Four big topics.
This was about Rico Dowdell.
It's Colin Fast saying, what to do with him now?
Keep trade?
What do we think in Dan Schneier on Rico Dowdell?
You're not going to be able to trade him.
I don't think for, well, I guess if you're trading to a desperate team,
that's in need of a win ASAP, that's possible.
I don't look at him as a player.
I would be looking to trade, though,
because I just think looking at their offense,
they're so much more effective going through Dowdell
than they were through Pollard, at least this year.
With that said, I'm coming back around to it.
I don't know if the game script's going to be good enough
for him to continue at this level, so fine, trading him.
Jacob, keep him, trade him?
Yeah, I'd be fine trading him if you feel like you get a good haul.
But he's obviously playing amazing right now.
And we did like what we saw from the run scheme.
He didn't have a single touch that didn't gain positive yards.
So not even like zero yards.
Like every single touch, 33 of them gained positive yards.
Insane.
Rico Dowell for Henry.
There's a question in the chat.
I'll take Henry any day in that.
Same.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
Well, go ahead, Dan.
I'm sorry.
I'm just like looking at the game.
For me, it's like, all games.
script dependent. I think he's a really good player. I think that the Panthers have clearly figured out
with their offense. They have to try to operate it through the run game if they want any chance
to be successful. And that's really what's led to the success in the passing game in my mind.
And this is an offensive line just looking at the two tackles that are much better run blockers
than pass blockers. So looking at the schedule, is it possible, right? Jets Panthers is this week,
certainly possible for good game script. There we go. Check one. Bill's Panthers. Not possible.
Packers, Panthers, maybe possible.
I feel like the Packers get these teams in pretty good game scripts where you can run the ball.
Saints Panthers, it's possible.
Falcon's Panthers, it's possible.
49ers,
maybe, maybe not.
But like, even Rams and 49ers are teams that stay in pretty even game scripts, I would say.
Then it's Saints again.
Then it's box, Seahawks.
Like, it's not an impossible schedule for the Panthers to kind of stay in these games
and be in positive games scripts where they can run the football.
So as I look through the schedule, I'm a little bit more interesting.
in Dallow, and then I thought I'd be, even with the return of Hubbard, because he is clearly
their best back in this offense, in my opinion.
Even in neutral or slightly negative game scripts, as long as they're not getting absolutely
having the doors blown off, I think that they're going to run.
I think that's what, like, them and the Browns are the teams that run the most when not
when playing from behind.
And to your point about being the best back, like, unless Hubbard is affected by the injury,
I just want to, like, point out how good he's been.
he really has been so freaking good.
That's what I've got up on the screen here is like last year,
the Panthers were 25th in EPA per dropback, 24th in EPA per rush that wasn't Hubbard
and fourth in EPA per rush like comparing Hubbard to any other running back.
Dowdell is better than the guys they had last year, but I don't know.
I think my guess is that they'll give them both touches,
maybe like alternate drives like the lines are doing or something like that
and just kind of ride the hot hand.
And I think that could just as easily be Hubbard as Dowdell.
yeah and we have a chat we have a comment in the chat is it me or was was doubtle good in
Dallas and now good here he was he was weeks 12 through 18 he was the number 18 running back
per game in ppr he only had 13 catches in those games wow um he and he only scored five
touchdowns but he averaged 4.8 no he was only on pace for five touchdowns sorry uh and
he was on he averaged 4.8 yards per carry he did have a lot of easy matchups and i would say
that chuba hubbard before his injury his first four games they actually had some pretty
tough matchups.
So I'm not sure.
I mean, I feel like Rico Dattle, to me,
probably a better rusher than Chuba Hubbard,
but I don't know that for sure.
Yeah, so let me read some questions
from the chat so we can get an idea of his value.
Rico for Scadaboo.
Scadaboo.
Scadaboo for sure.
What I've got here is like a game last year where he did this exact same thing,
25 carries for 149 yards, all of them gaining positive yards.
And so it's just like, he did have 1,300 scrimmage yards last year in an offensive environment that was not good and was able to just consistently create plays.
This was the best game, best belcow game of any running back in terms of just consistently getting positive yards.
Gave up Dowdell for Abuka.
Send Dowdell to hover on.
Give me a buca.
Well, I don't know.
He's undergoing testing.
That's never a good sign.
I would still take a hooker.
Yeah, it's risky.
It depends how you feel about injury.
players. How about this one? Doubtle for Diggs.
They're pretty similar in my mind, so it depends on what you need.
Yeah, I'm good with it.
All right. The quote from Dave Canales, when he was asked who the starter would be, he said,
a great question. We're going to figure that part out, but I know Rico is doing a great
job, and he will be a big part of what we're doing. And by the way, Chewold
didn't even practice last week. So I don't know that he's going to be back this week. I don't
know when he's going to be back, enjoy this ride, and hope he keeps it up against some tougher
competition.
Okay, let's take a break.
We've got three more topics to get to when we come back, including the Philadelphia Eagles.
And what the heck is going on with them?
We'll be right back.
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Adam how much
Right now
I put
I won't even put a lot
I'll put 145 played on one side
145 played on the other side of a bench press
how many if any reps do you think you can do you're saying one weight that weighs 45 pounds
no just a classic 45 or on one 45 around the other that's a it's not a lot i think it's
135 yes oh with the bar oh boy i would say
could you get a wrap up could you get a wrap up on assisted i think no damn i don't know though
i have no idea maybe i could do a few but i think have you ever bench press
in your life?
Yeah, in high school.
Oh, you used to lift?
In high school.
And then briefly, when I was in my 20s.
When you were in your 20s, what were you doing?
Like, what were you able to do?
Actually, I don't think, when I was in my 20s, I had a gym in my building and I would go
by myself, so I don't think I was bench pressing or I would have died.
Too risky, too risky.
Yeah.
I don't remember what I was doing.
I have no recollection.
Because I look at that ad we play during the break, and I'm like, Dave could probably throw
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Yeah, I would throw up if I saw $2.30.
okay this one is from mr eric are we buying the fall off of the eagles rest of season oh man
oh yeah oh yeah not rest of season but maybe but like right now we can just work with what we
have right and what we have is a clearly broken offense in the NFL out of the ones that we
watch on a week to week basis how many more weeks do we need to see
before we can call this offense broken.
They don't block while in the run game.
Landon Dickerson was out last week and probably will be playing hurt
throughout the rest of the season.
Tyler Steen's a bus at right guard.
Cam Juergens is not Jason Kelsey.
He's not what they thought would be the next Kelsey.
He's not.
So their O line is taking a clear step back,
at least in the run game.
And then in the passing game,
which hurts for a player like Seikvon Park because he's not Cam Scadaboo.
He's not like these Rico Doudal type.
He needs the hole to hit and go.
He's a speed back with, I guess, great moves.
or what's left of him.
And then there's Jalen Hertz in the passing game and Petula.
And what we see there, which is one,
a receiver with the worst body language of any receiver I've watched on tape this year,
by far, AJ Brown, watching back to all 22 of that week.
I've never seen worst body language this year.
So who knows what's going on with that and where that will go.
And Jalen Hertz, who is not really processing things well,
he's not seeing the field well.
I don't, like, I don't know, man.
Like, are we expecting that to change?
he had, has great games in the playoffs and the Super Bowl.
I just don't know.
I don't know.
This is basically the most negative take you could have on the Eagles, I think.
I'm not saying it's wrong.
And you're not biased.
It has nothing to do with you being a Giants fan.
I'm not saying.
Yeah, they said they were amazing last year.
Yeah, but it is really, you're taking these six games,
which have been a little bit of a struggle.
And Jalen Hertz, with these bad six games,
he scored 22.6 or more fantasy points in five of six games.
Oh, yeah, he'll be safe.
He tush pushes his.
way into like six to twelve points a week um it's it's like the most negative outlook you could give
but it it does sort of sometimes with these high profile teams that are under the magnifying
glass it seems like the world is falling down when they struggle and then a lot of times they just
kind of figure it out i mean how many times have the chiefs been counted out including this year
and now they might be the best team in football you know so we're just talking offense
i i get that i just i think there's too much talent i how much different
would the Eagles look if Jalen Hertz had completed those two passes to A.J. Brown and
Devante Smith wide open deep balls. He misses those. But well, it was the first one was on
AJ Brown. He just stopped running. The second one, what the heck? That was a really bad thing.
Oh, I thought you were talking about the cover zero in the Red Zone where he threw an interception
of Cordell flower where he just missed A.J. Brown. Like, he had a bad read on that.
No, I'm talking about the deep ball two weeks ago. Yeah. They were playing AJ Brown.
And the ones of Devonte Smith is from a clean pocket. Yeah, bad throw.
I mean air mail is a throw.
Like, there's, that's not,
like, he's the blame.
Who else has to blame there?
I bring this team up a lot.
No, it was a, you're right, totally him.
I bring this team up a lot because they are supposed to have an elite running back,
an elite quarterback, and an elite wide receiver.
Right now, the only thing they have is an elite tight end.
So, Jacob, what are your thoughts on the Eagles?
Well, they do have an elite tight end, elite running back to elite receivers.
They're all healthy, and they're all eating into each other's volume,
and they don't have their elite offensive line health.
and we have some concerns about the coach,
the new offensive coordinator, and the designs there.
So I'm kind of where Dan is.
But when you...
AJ Brown has eight or more targets in five straight games.
And he's not doing anything with it.
He's got more than 14 points in one of those games.
He's got double-digit PPR points in two of those games.
So that hasn't been the issue.
Goddard, the crazy stat on Goddard is that he's got he's got
four or five touchdowns is he already
he's already tied his career
high in touchdowns six games
into the year he has four
targets from the five yard liner closer
he scored on all four of them
he had one
target from the five yard line or closer in
each of his previous four seasons
so he's already matched that total
that's been annoying
mostly I'd say for Barclay
because those are just like he's not getting a lot
of carries near the goal line
but I think it's brown that's the most confusing
for me. Like, I know what Devante Smith is at this point.
Brown is like, he is getting
the targets. Why isn't it working
for A.J. Brown? Well, it starts with
they have just eight passing touchdowns in six
weeks. So you have
one of the main ways to score in fantasy is touchdowns.
And he's not having a lot of opportunities
to score touchdowns. And that has to be through
volume and yards. And this
is not a team that really has a lot of volume
in yards, or at least hasn't. Last two
weeks, though, they have. And the one positive
thing I would say for the Eagles' offensive view
a lot of players in fantasy on this team is
Their defense is banged up, and King John Mitchell is out, their best corner, one of the most shut down corners in the NFL, and Jalen Carter, who may be back this week, and they don't have any edge rushers.
So if the defense continues to play poorly, that could help because they can get in better game scripts.
But like, I just, I don't know, man, I watch this offense and I don't see anything positive about it.
I don't see a quarterback who's seeing the defense well.
I see a quarterback who's super limited.
and I see an offensive coordinator who's trying to scheme around the limitations of his quarterback.
And that's not working right now because they don't run the ball well and they can't block the run.
So I don't –
Would you anybody be buying low on the Eagles?
No.
No.
I mean, low, super low, sure.
But look at what we got coming up.
We've got Brian Flores this week, then the Giants again who they struggled with, and then the – I'm sorry, the Packers.
And then the lines.
Like, these are not good matchups for the next month.
the Eagles offense to get back on track.
I think the offensive line is a real problem.
Dan and I hit on a couple weeks ago, and you had some metrics on it at him.
What I found is that, like, outside of plays where Jalen Hertz extends the play, if it's
just like his normal dropback, he's getting pressured at one of the quickest rates of any
quarterback, and he's getting pressured a ton, and they just seem like they keep going in
the wrong direction with trying to get healthy.
And that's in the past game.
The run game, they haven't blocked up well either.
Oh, yeah.
He's averaging 3.4.
The yards created is not high.
Like, they're bad there as well.
So would you trade Rico Dattle for Seguan Barclay?
You better say yes.
The thing, like, when you have like an offensive line that's not playing well,
and the Eagles of Longe's line is not playing well despite having a lot of names.
And the tackles are playing well in past production.
There were plenty of snaps where they eliminated Carter and Burns and all these players.
The Giants didn't get pressure.
But overall, they're not playing great.
It comes more on the quarterback and his ability to process the ball defenses and get the
all out on time with velocity and accuracy to all three levels.
Are we seeing that from this quarterback right now?
Be honest.
No, we're not at all.
Yeah, but what matters more?
What's happening right now or what's happened for the previous three seasons?
He never did that.
They never operated that kind of past.
And yet they've been elite for fantasy.
Sure.
Right?
That's what I'm saying.
Because their offensive line was elite.
Right.
Is their offensive line going to get back to that elite level?
That's really the question, in my mind, at least.
The difference between an elite offensive line and like one of the worst.
offensive line is so, so significant.
Yes.
Yeah.
And the coaching was better.
Yeah.
It's a good point.
It's Kellynne Moore with an elite offensive line or it's, and at times it was
whoever the coordinator was before that, I forgot who they had the good year, two years ago
with.
It had a okay year or two years ago with it.
I would just say Kellan Moore.
Probably just.
Okay.
So that's pretty much where we're at with the Eagles.
I think I'm probably a little more optimistic, but definitely not unconcerned here.
They just don't seem to be clicking, and I feel like they're going to have a new offensive coordinator again next year.
This one is from free.
Are there any sell-high candidates with bad playoff schedules or any by-low candidates with great playoff schedules?
Pretty difficult question to answer after week six.
So I did my bet.
I don't know if you guys have any names for this.
Saw you?
Yeah, I figured.
I looked and you had like a bunch of it.
It's a tough question.
Yeah, I saw you.
Yeah, you had a bunch of names there.
All right.
We'll talk about the ones you have.
Let's go that route.
Here's what I did.
For quarterbacks, I looked at the teams
that are actually giving up
the most fantasy points to quarterbacks.
I also kind of ad-libbed a little bit
in some of the matchups
that I think are really good.
And for running backs,
instead of looking at fantasy points aloud,
I looked at yards per carry aloud.
I want to see which teams are the two,
specifically two running backs,
yards per carry allowed,
which teams are really the worst against the run
or the best against the run.
So that's kind of where I'm at.
There's one team
that doesn't look like it,
has a great schedule on paper, but I kind of feel like it does, and it's New Orleans and
their passing game. Just going forward, you know, bears, bucks, rams are tough. Panthers,
like, Panthers are fourth best against wide receivers, but I'm not really buying it.
Falcons, then you get the dolphins, the bucks, the Panthers, the Jets.
Jets wouldn't be good for Olave necessarily, the Titans.
So I don't know.
I'm not doing anything with that.
I don't have enough faith in the Saints.
The running backs with good matchups in the playoffs or late in the season, Chase Brown has
great matchups. I don't care. Quintan Judkins, I don't know about him. Right now on paper,
it's pretty good, but Buffalo and Pittsburgh are his week 16 and 17 opponents, and they've been
so injured. So Pittsburgh, I think, for sure, is tougher. I would say that Judkins has a pretty
damn good schedule at least until week 16 and 17. He's got Miami. New England is tough. New
England is tough after that. Then a buy. Jets, Ravens,
Raiders. Now I'm saying this out loud, and I don't know.
Like, the Raiders have a good run defense. The Jets have a decent run defense.
The Niners should be an easy matchup without Fred Warner. The Titans are easy. The Bears are easy.
I like, overall, I like Quinshan Judkin's schedule a lot. I like Josh Jacob's schedule. He's got Chicago and Baltimore in the fantasy playoffs.
I like Pacheco's schedule. The Chief's run schedule looks a lot better than their past schedule right now.
the Patriots running backs have a pretty good schedule
they have Baltimore and the Jets in the playoffs
they also have the giants the Bengals the Jets
we knew this all year
like the Patriots just have a great schedule
bad schedules
let me get your thoughts oh Jacori Kroski Merritt
has a very good schedule going forward
especially in the playoffs
bad schedules what are your thoughts
on Brian Thomas Jr. First of all he's one of the
storylines of week six huge game
but I brought this up
who does he have in week
15 first week of the playoffs
he has sauce Gardner
who does he have in week 16
does that mean anything anymore
yes oh absolutely
Gardner's been great
yeah it's been better lately
who's been better than Gardner
Patrick Sartan that's who Brian Thomas
Jr. has in week 16
so his fantasy playoffs are Jets
Broncos Colts
does that mean
does that matter to you guys
yeah I don't love that
yeah that's not good at all and we have been
pretty low on the by low
idea for Brian Thomas
despite his breakout
quote on quote how you guys feeling about that right now i actually do feel like both him and
travis hunter are fine if you want to buy i mean travis hunter's got to be like pretty much free
right now yeah um and it's more so about the offense and what we've seen from liam cohen than
about those guys specifically um it's just to me this looks like on paper and when we watched him
just last week against the chiefs you know like this looks like a top eight offensive
environment um so even some of these games where there's tougher individual matchups they might
still be able to put points on the board.
So I'm fine with either of them,
but these tough cornerback matchups for wide receiver one
are definitely worth noting.
That's the number one for me.
Defense has changed so much throughout the year.
Injuries change things so much,
but it is worth noting.
Josh Allen has a terrible playoff schedule
at New England, at Cleveland, Philadelphia.
He already struggled against New England at home.
Cleveland is more tough against the run than anything.
And James Cook.
I mean, James Cook has the Patriots and the Browns.
Those are two of the best run defenses in football.
So that's Weeks 15 and 16 for him.
Kyler Murray, on paper, has a bad playoff schedule.
He's got, beginning the week before the playoffs, beginning of the week 14,
he has the Rams, the Texans, and the Falcons.
Might want to think about this with Marvin Harrison, Jr.
Rams, Texans, Falcons, that's Stingley, that's Terrell.
If you get to Week 17 with Kyler and Marvin Harrison, Jr., you get Cincinnati,
so that's good.
Patrick Mahomes has a tough schedule.
just before the playoff start.
I mean, just like going forward.
Raiders, commanders, that's fine.
Buffalo, then a buy, then Denver,
then the Colts, Dallas is great.
Then Houston, Chargers, Tennessee, Denver.
It's not great for Mahomes.
Does that matter to anyone?
Not so much to me.
For some of these players,
I'm almost more so interested in, like,
the game environments.
And, of course, you can't predict that super perfectly either.
But, like, could this be a game
that turns into back and forth?
Are both teams going to be motivated
and, like, capable of putting points
on the board. Like I was looking at the Bucks, who you haven't mentioned, I don't think at
them. They're a team that I've kind of been targeting because they've got some banged up pieces.
I think their offensive line is going to get back and be healthier. And after the week
nine by, the Bucks have the Patriots where the defense is played better, the bills, their
defense is good. But both those could be shootouts, right? If it gets going back and forth,
both those could be shootouts. The Rams after that could be a shootout. The Cardinals defense
a little bit banged up. Who knows like the Saints, that's a decent matchup. Falcons could
be a shootout. Panthers again. Where it's like to me,
almost any of those games could be positive environments for fantasy.
Yeah, it's tough when you're looking at schedules and all this at this point.
But that's another thing to look for it for me is like, could this game get into a back-and-forth game that gives you a lot of points?
Yeah, I'm going to look at this more closely in about a month when we know more about the matchups.
Bucks to me are pretty much matchup-proof.
Baker Mayfield seems to outperform all quarterbacks that face that same matchup.
You know, he scored the most points against Houston, I think.
He's so good.
he is but he's in a little bit of trouble right now with no evans no gawin no abuka no abuka yeah and he'll
still find a way that's a crazy part he'll find a way i don't know if he's got that 28 point upside
though he might have the 21 22 point upside i don't know if he's going to find a way to to um be a top
five quarterback and no bucky too hurts him too yeah everything it's it's weird man they're so
injured but he's the MVP all right with all that said let's um get some by low candidates from you guys
your favorite by-low is our last topic today i can go first yeah um i think bruce hall
continues to be good by low i know that that's you're going to sound really gross but that's why
you can buy him low um season high snap rate this week i think it was 75 percent so that was up
from the week before where we saw them like playing from behind a lot and it was like a 60-40 split
with him and isaiah davis i think that he can settle into this like 75 percent range um and he's
run really well their offensive line has been hit or miss but there's definitely talent so it's
like if this comes together and is any better than this where they have like nothing at all
offensively then he could be somebody who gives you points and what if he does get traded to
the chiefs or something like that you know um so i i think he's just to me he's like a top
eight or ten talent at running back um and even if he stays with the jets could produces a top
15 running back with the potential for more if he gets lucky with big plays and stuff like that
and he's like running back 20 or something is basically i think is
price I could maybe he's going to be more expensive but if you can get him at that price I would
definitely buy and I'll bring a bucky again this is only if you can afford to wait but I think he
should be good after that week I think it was week nine by and I just from that point on he you
probably have a top five top eight running back I've got a few more do you want me to keep going
Dan or do you want do you have yeah you can go bill I think if you can oh that was my that was the number
one I wanted to go go ahead take them all if you can buy bill like he'll probably it wouldn't
surprise if he produces just like bucky does you know
like it's an awesome offense he looks awesome and they keep you know we're seeing like clips of them
working on like exclusively on past passing down stuff running routes and stuff like that and they've
been getting him more and more pass protection reps and everything so it's like what if he steps
into a 60 70% snap rate role continues to play really well and one of the best run games in the league
with an awesome dual threat quarterback right to threaten defenses too uh yeah and then like adam said
the schedule is good alave like adam pointed out the schedule note there we finally saw alave like can
get yards right like he hasn't been able to get more than 50 yards all year somehow even though he has like the best volume numbers of almost any receiver it's like jackson smitha jigba puka nukua and then a lave but it's been no more than 53 yards in a game and he's like oh he got 53 yards on one catch that's right this guy was the ninth overall pick and it's super fast like we've seen him average job or two yards brought run every single season leading up to this one so if you can still buy low on him i i think that it makes sense um and then we already already mentioned Travis hunter i think
the fact that he the playing time spiked we haven't really seen them be willing to do that where
they make him like basically a full-time officer um but still like people are like this guy sucks
and it's like maybe like does he suck probably not like they captured him second overall like
um so if you think he could be a late season breakout which a lot of rookies typically are i think
that's a good buy and then i wanted to bring up sam la porta if you want just kind of a random
tight-in by i feel like he's just been forgotten about it maybe not so much after he made
freaking awesome catch last night like in the island game was that sick or what man even jerry golf
he's so good throw too i this is like a dynasty by two he's so good i think he's legitimately like a
top three or four tight in the league right now we have some really good tight ends and i think because
like tucker craft and all these guys been pushing up uh tyler warren obviously like leport is
almost kind of fallen by proxy for no reason like for no doing of his own um his route rate is higher
than it's ever been this year.
And his per route data is also higher than it's ever been.
First down per route run, yard per route run.
He just hasn't had touchdowns like he has in the past, but the offense is still producing
touchdowns.
So to me, it's like this could be just a pretty easy buy where maybe you can just kind of get
him in a deal where somebody thinks that it's like a lateral move to go from him to
Kincaid or something like that or whatever, whoever it may be.
I think he is probably a top four or five tied in rest of the season and could be more.
I guess my concern with Laporta is they threw over 30 passes in week one, and they have not thrown 30 passes in a game since.
So inevitably, you're just going to get weeks two through four, where he had 5.6, 7.3, and 6.9 PPR fantasy points.
Is there any tied-in other than McBride that you feel like you are going to avoid those weeks with?
Well, Kyle Pitts has not scored fewer than 7.7 in any game. No, I don't think so.
It's the nature of the position.
I guess I just wouldn't really buy high on...
It's hard to buy him right now.
He's coming off two huge games in a row.
I don't think he can keep it up.
I would almost call him a sell high
if you felt like you could get something great
and move to a guy like Kincaid
or someone who's not going to be as good.
But I feel like with him, with Tucker Kraft,
they're in similar situations
where there's going to be a lot of disappointing weeks
and some spike weeks.
Yeah.
I disagree with your...
assessment of Laporta. He is terrific, but he hasn't topped six targets since week one.
All right, anyway. George Kittle, I would throw in two.
Yeah, I was going to. Kittle's a nice one. I don't know if I would call it by like it's,
it's tough to say just because he's been injured, but that's fine. I'm in on that one.
I'm in on the entire 49ers offense taking a step forward. For me, my favorite outside of the
ones Jacob mentioned, which would probably bill, would be Zay Flowers. I just think it's a perfect
time to buy Zay Flowers. Lamar Jackson's back. We saw what he was capable of doing in those
first two weeks, especially week one with the game script necessary for Zayflowers to
break out. And all I know is this Ravens defense is absolutely shot and will continue to be
shot for the remainder of the season, most likely based on injuries. So that seems to set up
really well once Lamar Jackson gets back for Zay Flowers. So that's a primed by Canada,
by low. I also would be buying low on a player like T. Higgins. I just think watching that
offense operate with Flacco versus Browning was, and that's with week one, with Flacko having no time
to prepare, barely knowing the offense.
At this thing, it's going to continue to get better and better there for that
passing game.
Not to say it's going to be crazy, but it's going to be efficient enough to support a
player like T. Higgins versus earlier, I kind of just like, he's done.
And then one more guy I'd throw in there.
I want to see what the bears do coming out of their biweek.
I think, and you've mentioned this in the past, but I think DJ Moore could potentially
be an interesting biolo candidate.
You'd have to do it right now before this week, possibly.
but I just think their offense will look
a little bit more efficient coming out of the biweek.
Luther Burden?
Luther Burden spike today?
Maybe it's time.
Maybe it's finally time.
Maybe no.
How about Loveland, Jacob?
How about Colston?
We don't even know if he's going to play.
He's injured.
I know.
I don't think he's going to play.
He's questionable.
I hope he plays.
I think Loveland's more likely than Burden.
Probably.
No, to be a breakout.
Not to play, obviously.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
Could be wrong.
I only had two guys.
It's hard to call one of them a buy low because his value is skyrocketing right now.
It's Devante Adams.
And simply put, I just think he's going to be really good.
The catch rate, I cannot understand.
I went back.
I looked at all 11 of his incompletions, you know, or Stafford's incompletions over the last two games to Devante Adams.
Three of them, he was wide open.
One of them was a drop.
One of them, he slipped on a route.
Two of them miscommunication on a route.
I just feel like they're close to really being.
in sync. And what's a bad game from
Devante Adams? It's about 13 fantasy
points. So
he's so solid. And now
without Puka, probably for a week,
don't know that for sure.
It's going to be hard to buy him, I guess,
but I think he's going to have a good finish.
He is so, he's
I didn't watch all his routes, just watch the
targets. He's wide open so
often, which I think is pretty
common in the Rams offense. They just know
how to get guys open. And the other one is
Purdy. You know, he hasn't
been great this year because he's thrown two interceptions in both of his starts. One of those
starts he was playing hurt. And that is my concern is that he's never going to be fully
healthy this year. But this team throws about as much as any team in football right now. They
cannot run the ball. Their defense is beat up. When you have a bad defense and a bad
offense, it doesn't really help that much. You know, you don't take a bad offense and go,
well, they're going to throw so much. They're bound to be good. I don't think it works that well.
When you have a good defense and a bad, when you have a bad defense and a good offense,
an offense you believe in, like the Cowboys this year, that is a formula for fantasy gold.
And it could be frustrating with the 49ers receiving core if everyone's ever healthy.
I don't know if that'll ever be the case.
But it could be great for Brock Purdy.
So I think I'd consider buying on him.
That's an interesting point.
What do you think about this question?
Nico Collins-A-Bilow.
I've got an interesting staff for you.
Did you see this?
Dan and I have been a little worried about our guy, Nico, his 15%, 15% first read target rate in week five.
That's his lowest rate since 2022.
Last year, his lowest rate in a game was 26%.
He already has games of 15, 25, and 26% this year.
So we've got a new officer coordinator, and they've been getting the ball out quick,
like really emphasizing getting the ball out quick out of CJ Stroud's hands,
and that's led to more like even target distribution.
You brought it up on Beyond the Box score last week.
I brought it up on our FFT show on Wednesday because Heath did call Nico a buy-low.
I am worried about that.
I still think he's, you know, Nico, he's so good.
There's no reason why the first read target rate couldn't come back up.
But basically the way I put it was I was, he was wide receiver two for me at the beginning of the year.
Now I would value Nico as a second round pick.
I think he's going to be good.
I don't think he's going to win you your league necessarily.
He's clearly ahead of Brian Thomas Jr.
Another person brought up that Travis Hunter
had that penalty that called back
a huge touchdown for BTJ too.
It could have been an even bigger week.
Is he clearly had a BTJ for you?
Yes.
And like McConkey, clearly ahead of him.
We haven't talked about him at all today.
But I don't know if I'd put him ahead of Devante Adams.
I think I'd rather have Adams.
Okay.
Yeah, that's in my most recent rest of season rankings,
I had him behind Adams.
Yep, that's about where I'm out with him.
It's tough.
Like a second round value?
George Pickens ahead of him.
Hmm.
Why not?
Because Lamb, because of Lamb.
You don't think he's going to keep scoring once Lamb comes back?
Not at this rate, obviously.
Right now he's like a wide receiver one scoring rate.
But top 12 rate, we don't have that many good passing games.
Yeah, but we're talking about Nico Collins here.
I'm not talking about, I'd rather.
I know.
We're talking about Nico Collins on a pretty dead offense except for one game.
Yeah, it's tough.
I would think I would take Nico over
over Pickens, but
Garrett Wilson, if he comes back
and is good to go?
I'd probably take Garrett Wilson.
Yeah.
Well, it depends.
I mean, we're going to most likely get Tyraud Taylor
at some point decently soon.
Like, there's, I know they've said,
the Jets have said, like, oh, we, you know,
we believe in fields.
It's like at some point, you look the locker room in the face
and you just simply can't continue to play fields
because he's not better.
He doesn't move the offense better.
than Tyrod Taylor, and it's beyond obvious.
Did you see?
So when they go to Taylor, that's good for Wilson.
Yeah, which is that a franchise record yesterday, negative 10 net passing yards?
I mean, you could just watch the game and you just watch fields sitting in that pocket.
Like, they have two options, the Jets.
They either keep playing fields and design their offense around fields, which they're not doing,
which means a ton of quarterback runs, have him scrambling more in the pocket.
Like, it looked like he wasn't even looking to run yesterday.
He was kind of just sitting in the pocket trying to process the defense.
it's not something he can do he's not an NFL quarterback i hate to say it from a processing standpoint
how much more evidence do we need with fields all right looks like jacob has saying i have to go in one
minute i just do a early waiver with jamie so take us away with your super cool graphic oh you want to
see the chart yeah it was only if you had time but i just wanted to show look at where jackson
smitha jigba is first off god he's a god what we've got here is yards per route run and then
fantasy points per game look at where george pickens is
Right, right in there in between Jamar, Adam.
Jamar Chase,
Mekbuka, just below Amonar, St. Brown.
Okay, do this chart in weeks one and two.
See where George Pickens ranks in week one and two.
You know, it's like you forget how many targets C.D. Lamb was getting.
That was the beginning of their time together, though,
Dack and George.
And now they're building their rapport.
He's playing so well that I couldn't possibly ignore it, right?
But is he going to be better than Nico Collins?
That's a tough question.
go ahead put your money where you're about this i'll take nico from the moment cd lamb gets back
i will take nico now that wasn't the question we said rest of season we don't know when lamb is getting
back all right fine right now i'll take nico over pickin's rest of season what about you
i did have nico ahead of him going into this week i think that's i'll stick with my guy nico
but like man the the the dreamboat situation here with dallas is like so much better like
houston's defense is really good yeah i know right all right dan's not answering so
I'm going to go Pickens.
Look, my flag plant player for the year,
I'm beyond the box.
So before the season started was George Pickens.
That's a good reason to go with them.
I'm just sticking with my priors.
Sticking with my briar.
That's always good thing to do in fantasy analysis.
I'm not loving the comments today.
I am not loving the comments.
I'm getting called out for things I didn't even say.
Adam continually will not give Baker Mayfield his full amount of flowers.
I will send him a bouquet.
I tweeted it yesterday and I said it on the show today.
He's the MVP of the league.
Come on. I'm not giving him his flowers. Get out of here. All right. We are done with Beyond the Box Score. And we will talk to you tomorrow with the waiver wire on fantasy football team.
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