Fantasy Football Today - Beyond the Box Score: Rookie Gems, Best and Worst Fits and More (04/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

Dan and Jacob hop on with the annual "Rookie Gems" episode! First, some overall thoughts on this draft class (3:00) and news and notes (10:50) including Deshaun Watson reportedly being the frontrunner... for the Browns starting quarterback job ... Dan and Jacob give their perspectives on the Round One rookies. Which rookie is a good fit for his team's offense (18:00)? Jadarian Price and Jordyn Tyson come to mind. Which rookie is a bad fit for his team's offense (24:45)? And which rookie should be drafted second in redraft leagues (29:30)? Carnell Tate? Tyson? Price? Makai Lemon? ... Moving on to the Rookie Gems! These guys might be under the radar right now, but there is potential for Fantasy relevance in 2026. We start with Antonio Williams (32:30), De'Zhaun Stribling (37:35), Chris Bell (43:10)  and Ted Hurst (47:40) before rattling off more rookie gems ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:03 What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. It is fantasy football today meets Beyond the Box Score.
Starting point is 00:01:25 What do they call this? Crossover episode. Crossover episode. Yeah. Do you guys remember? Flintstones meet the Jetsons? No, we don't remember Flintstones meet the Jetsons. We're not in your age bracket.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I think I'd get a reference Bojack Horsman, which is kind of old, and then you gave us Flintstones. Jamie, you've seen Flintstones meet the Jetsons, right? Yeah, it was four. I think it's Jetsons beat the Flintstones or something like that. It was great, wonderful episode. Anyway, welcome to the show. You hear Jacob and Dan.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Jamie is here. I'm Adam, and we're going to talk about some rookie gems. We're going to also get Dan and Jacob's opinion on the first guys and how they fit schematically with the teams that they went to. We'll talk about the Deshawn Watson news. But, you know, Jacob and Dan give great tips every year on players who might not be on your fantasy radar right now, but should be. And are all of them going to pan out?
Starting point is 00:02:15 No. But if one or two do, that's a huge advantage to you. So I'll even, maybe even more than that. We're going to identify some players that we like that are in situations that are maybe just one injury away from being really good and really beneficial for fantasy managers. Your emails, we have some of those as well. Our email address is fantasy football at CBSI.com. I haven't talked to, oh, Dan, what's up?
Starting point is 00:02:36 I haven't talked to you in a while. I haven't been on a while. I haven't talked to you and Jamie. It feels like some part of my life is missing. So it's good to be back. It's been a lot to talk about. Save it for another mailbag. This show's focused on the football.
Starting point is 00:02:48 He's been just raving about his tennis game, Dan. None of that has happened, but I am finally playing with my brother this Friday. He's been really getting into it. He wants an azer match. He wants a singles match for us, and he wants a doubles match for his Yezer brothers. That still needs to happen well before our match.
Starting point is 00:03:05 We need to get some practice matches in. Okay, no problem. I'm 2-0 this week, by the way, including a triumphant win last night. So, anyway, I have a comment in the chat from a guy who also said I was baking eggs, which is why we relate to the show today. I've never baked eggs before. But Zed says, the entire class is sleepers, L-O-L. It really is garbage draft class after like six picks.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Dan, do you agree with that? you know, I'm trying to bring optimism to the show. I'm trying to be a new me, new year motto, but I don't feel very good about this class at all. And there's no real, I don't want to say it as if, like, there's actionable advice because everyone's like, all right, well, you tell me you don't feel good about the class, then what do I do?
Starting point is 00:03:44 Nobody wants to trade for these picks and dynasty. The only thing I would say is we're going to hype players, just keep it into some, at least in my mind, keep it in some version of like a context of like, let's not go so crazy. Let's not trade future assets for these guys. Okay. That's all I feel.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Jacob? Yeah, I mean, today, like, we're mostly focused, I think, on what could happen this year, right? Like, you're bringing up future assets. But we're talking about, like, the 2026 season. And, yeah, in reality, most of these guys are behind somebody on their depth chart. So I think it's most important to find the players we think are good and the players that are on good teams. And I do think we have plenty of those this year. I know it's a weird class overall.
Starting point is 00:04:21 But I do think that there are a few diamonds in the rough here potentially. And I think this practice has been good in the past, like to kind of get a head. ahead of some of these players who end up getting steamed up the draft board by the time August rolls around. So I'm excited to get to it. And then let's talk about the debate we were having before the show started. I actually think in addition to just me kind of making fun of all three of you for being wrong. I do think it's a fun fantasy debate is if you're in a dynasty league, when to do your rookie drafts. Because I think all three of you are already doing rookie drafts. Right. And I do not want to do our rookie draft
Starting point is 00:04:54 in the Bake Burger Dynasty League until honestly August I just I just don't want to do it and I'll tell you why I mean I have a little I'm scarred by drafting R.J. Harvey because people are you know
Starting point is 00:05:06 let them start the draft and then I draft R.J. Harvey and then they signed J.K. Dobbins and it really bothered me. It really bothered it. It's like almost a waste of a first round pick and I just don't understand why to do it now.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Is this to me, Jamie, I'll let you have the first word. This to me to be like, oh, the college football championship game just ended. let's have the NFL draft in two days.
Starting point is 00:05:28 It's so silly. Like, give people time to do their research, get training camp reports. That's like the equivalent of the combine. And then do your rookie draft. Why would I do it now, Jamie? It's a terrible idea, and I hate you for it. Yeah, I was trying to think of all the things you hate me for. I think just it's, you know, you hate fun.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah, he does. He really does. I think, you know, for most people, I would assume, and we know what happens when you assume. But I would assume that most people who play in dynasty leagues also dabble and redraft league still. And so you have multiple drafts usually happening in August or at least one that you probably care about a lot.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And so why would you not want to start the draft process as much as soon as you possibly can because then it allows you to still make trades on the picks that you have made at this point leading up to the things that you can change? So, for example, like you got, in your mind, burned by RJ Harvey with the J.K. Dobbins signing. I would imagine there are probably still people in your league, which we are part of, that would have been very still very interested in R.J. Harvey, despite the Dobbins edition. And you may have been able to capitalize on that and either get a player that you wanted, that may have gotten a little bit later, or trade it for future assets.
Starting point is 00:06:46 If you were so pissed off that R.J. Harvey was not going to stink because of the addition of J.K. Dobbins. It's also not taking into account why we play dynasty. It's not just for the upcoming season. It's for the future. And so, you know, at the time when they signed Dobbins, I didn't really look at it as this is their duo now for many years to come. I thought it was this was a stopgap that R.J. Harvey is still going to have a good career. I've still hoped for that. But obviously what we saw in his rookie campaign did not necessarily lead to that, not to get on an R.J. Harvard discussion.
Starting point is 00:07:13 But, again, I think the part of it is like, this is the time to have fun because the NFL draft just happened. You're excited about your dynasty league. You're excited about the rookies. You want to do a draft. you should be doing a draft. Yeah, I just don't want to do it. Why not? Have fun.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Enjoy yourself. What are you so worried about? You're always so scared and nervous about things that aren't going to hurt you. Look, if your decision to draft RJ Harvey was impacted that much by a one-year J.K. Dobbin signing last year, then you didn't have the right process for drafting Harvey in the first place. Okay, look, I'm just using it as an example. I wasn't. Well, I'll give you, I'll give you two scenarios right now. So I'm in one draft with other analysts in, in our.
Starting point is 00:07:51 our industry. And I had the seventh pick. So seventh pick all throughout, it's non-snick draft. In the second round, I took Stribbling. He was the best player on the board for me. If there is a 49ers injury, that never happens. If there's a wide receiver injury, I love the situation. Stribling may be a first round pick if there's an injury that occurs. Conversely, I traded my third round pick. Somebody offered me, it's a super flex lead. My quarterbacks are pretty terrible. Somebody offered me Jacoby Brissette for my third round pick. In this year's draft, I felt like it was worth the risk to take a chance on Jacoby Percette.
Starting point is 00:08:27 That pick ended up being Claiborne from the Vikings. They're running back. If there is an Aaron Jones injury or a Jordan Mason injury or both, not that Aaron Jones ever gets hurt, unfortunately for him, Claybourne could be somebody that's very relevant, and I just made a terrible mistake by not drafting him in the third round. So there's ways that this works out for you and obviously against you, but that's part of the risk that you take when drafting this early, which I know you don't want to take because you don't like that fun.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I'm also a believer, by the way, and like nobody likes this. I like the early August drafts from my redraft home league and stuff like that. Nobody ever wants to be like, I want to get there before all the information's out there. I want to get there before they can just have every analyst in the world, tell them every little last thing. That's part of it. That is part of it. But I think I would do it even if I was an enthusiast of just the NFL because I would
Starting point is 00:09:12 want my fresh takes to have a chance to boss them instead of like them being caught up by every single analyst, you know, all the cycle. that comes with it. There's still some guys that you can kind of edge by a little bit still in August, and then obviously it's gone by the end of August. I just want to say I'm happy to see you today, Adam. I don't think you're a coward. I think you like that fun.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I have a lot of fun when I'm with you, hanging out of your podcast. It is April. You know where Jamie and I are at. You don't need to be drafting in April. I mean, come on, people. All right, news and notes. And then we will get into the rookies. We have a former co-worker on our chat.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yes. Greg. Greg Simuluka. What's going on? What are my favorites? Very, very funny. Oh, look at his, what does his avatar say? It says, be brave enough to suck at something new.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I love that. What's green stripe? Green stripe, it was a shirt that I had. Oh, that green stripe. Yeah, it just has the random green stripe. Yeah, that terrible shirt. Yeah, terrible shirt. And I wore it to work.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And Greg called me green stripe forever. Never. You would look at me and just go, stripe. When you used to go into the office, did you have to like pass your outfit by alley or was it just you kind of, there's a war whatever you wanted? I never, I didn't know her when I went to the office. Oh, okay. That's that that makes a lot more.
Starting point is 00:10:32 No, but you know her after you bought your stupid Star Source, Star Trek. That Star Trek shirt is so bad. I want him to wear that. When's the last time you put that on air? It's been a while. It's so bad. That thing is definitely going into garbage. There's no way you're keeping that.
Starting point is 00:10:45 You know who's having the worst out right now? Jacob. I'm just working on other stuff. Yeah, carry on. Jacob's all game, man. He's all ball. Yep, I love it. All right, news and notes.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Deshawn Watson is the inside track to be Cleveland starting quarterback, according to Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com. From a CBSports.com article, here's just a quote. When he has been on the field, Watson has been awful. Among 48 quarterbacks with at least 500 dropbacks from 2022 to 2024, so it's 48 quarterbacks. Watson ranked. 47th, I'll just make it easier,
Starting point is 00:11:20 46 or 47th in net yards per attempt, expected points added per play, explosive plays per dropback, sack rate and negative plays rate. So we know he's been one of the worst quarterbacks. One time the guys were dumb enough to let me write a sleeper's column, and I made Deshawn Watson a 24 sleeper
Starting point is 00:11:37 because he actually played five healthy games in 2023, and he averaged 20.5 fantasy points per game. and because if you actually look at his, he's played five or six healthy games in three straight seasons, Deshawn Watson, and I'll just point this out, and he's coming off of Torniquillies,
Starting point is 00:11:52 but in all three seasons, he was on pace for at least 419 rushing yards. And I'll just, you know, I'll just leave it there because he still has some rushing upside to maybe make him fantasy relevant. But, Jacob, what do you think, Deshawn Watson,
Starting point is 00:12:08 not to say that he wouldn't lose his job or anything if he struggles, but I guess, would you, for the sake of, Casey Concepcion or Denzel Boston. Do you have a preference of quarterback? No. I guess, Watson.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I mean, you're like, he was the worst when he played. And it's like, well, yeah, so was Chador. And Tailing Green, like, they lost 10 straight games at Arkansas last year or whatever. Like, no, I don't really want any of the Browns guys for this year. I love this, love this, love this for Fanon, Concepcion, Boston, all these guys, because this is going to get them to Arch Manning. that is true but that's down the line that's good for the dynasty aspect of it i thought it was interesting jimmy you retweeted uh i think mary k cabbitt's report on this but i just click through
Starting point is 00:12:54 that and i just thought it was super interesting he's like breaking news out of voluntary minicamp just sean watson has emerged as the undoubted favorite i'm like voluntary minicamp i've been i've seen one of these things of the giants it is not intense it is nothing is going on there there is no nobody emerging from camp rookie voluntary mini camp so i think this is still going to be a job that's won in camp i don't think watson's going to be the favorite i think he'll win the job just because i personally find gabriel and and sanders to be pretty unplayable at the nflop at the nflop but i don't think it's going to be too much of advantage for a fantasy value that watson year like that was pre-a-cili's right when he had those rushing yards that
Starting point is 00:13:30 the achilles that kittles was after that yeah so i just it kills it kills his fantasy value to not be like have that upside in my mind of the rushing it's been a while though it's been a year and a half i think so it will be since he tore the achilles i think it's going to be like pretty close to two full years once week one rolls around. But all right. George Pickens signed his franchise tender. The Texan signed linebacker Aziz al-Shire to a three-year, $54 million deal. And Matt Barrow's of the Athletic thinks that the 49ers could release Brandon Ayuk on May 27th when their OTAs began.
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Starting point is 00:17:50 Let's get into schemes here. Which first round pick is a good fit for his team's offense, Dan Schneier? Well, let me first start. First round rookie pick or first round NFL draft pick? NFL draft pick. Oh, NFL draft pick. Can't talk rookie drafts. Adam does not like those.
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Starting point is 00:18:28 Help us get it through the algorithm and into the people's heads. All right. That's time that I got my little time there. That's first round rookie draft pick or non-rooky draft pick that I like. Jordan Tyson for me. He's number one for me as far as the fit goes. I know a lot of people have questioned it. People have said, oh, what's the ceiling here with Chris Olavé on the roster?
Starting point is 00:18:49 Is it possible for him to out-target or al-Ave? I think the answer is yes. As good as Alave was, I still think the answer is yes. Because for what Kellyn Moore wants to do, a lot of quick game and win over the middle of the field, something I think Tyler Shuck can do but needs to still take a jump at. Like to me, Chuck was at his best last year throwing outside the numbers. He can and showed some glimpses of throwing inside the numbers, but that's going to be something that has to take a step forward with timing, with rapport.
Starting point is 00:19:14 That's where Tyson can win. And I think that's where Tyson will win. And I think there is upside for him to out target and potentially outproduced from a reception standpoint, maybe not a yards or possibly touchdown standpoint, Alave this year. So I love the fit in the scheme, and I love the fit for him to get a lot of targets there. Jacob, your answer, best fit for a first round pick? that was incredible I'll go
Starting point is 00:19:38 a gerardian price I've got some concerns about price as well but the fit is pretty clear here I think as the Kenneth Walker replacement essentially coming in as the explosive back
Starting point is 00:19:50 who can read out some of these outside zone runs inside zone runs as well and find holes to bounce outside and he's tough to bring down once he gets ahead of steam rolling
Starting point is 00:20:01 so I think he's going to be pretty effective for them on the ground Jamie, any thoughts? I love the price call. I mean, not that the Tyson calls bad by any stretch, but I mean, it's not just, and, you know, from a scheme standpoint, obviously he can do the things that Ken Walker does from a touch standpoint. I mean, there's 400 some odd vacated touches with Walker and Charbonnet injured, you know, Walker gone and Charbonnet injured. And so it's going to be sort of fascinating to see which of the two backups, you know, which prior to the draft could have been the starters. but, you know, George Hollani and Emmanuel Wilson, you know, help in working with Price, who clearly, as we've, you know, seen and discussed many times since the draft, not a full-time guy at Notre Dame, you know, can he handle that workload and be that type of guy? Because if he does, you know, as Jacob said, I think it might have been off there. But, you know, you're talking about the things that change right now versus August. And we get those August reports about he's going to be the full-time guy, is going to be the featured guy. We're going to use him more in the passing.
Starting point is 00:21:00 him than he did at Notre Dame and all these things, these positive reports, like Judarian Price, would you go, six round in the draft we did on Tuesday? Like, we could be looking at a round four or, you know, if it's teamed up too much, a round three pick, you know, just based on the excitement when you start to talk about those running backs, you know, 15 through 25 in a lot of people's rankings in ADP. So Price is one of the more fascinating high-end rookies just based on where he landed and what his potential could be in that offense. Dan, what do you make of Judarian Price only having 15 catches in three seasons at Notre Dame?
Starting point is 00:21:35 And what do you think about his past catching potential in the NFL? It's a big flaw in his overall profile. I remember Jacob and I going over this pre-draft and it was a concern. I think, you know, we've seen some guys evolve to some extent. Like Jonathan Taylor, I think, had what at Wisconsin in that range of 15 total catches, something poor like that? And has evolved his game somewhat at the NRAF. NFL level receiving exam.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Though I still feel like he's mostly just used on design passing game touches. I don't think Price will ever be like that route winner, the guy that becomes a big focal point of the passing game. You're going to have to win with him in the red zone. You're going to have to win with him with explosive plays and just being in a good offense. Those are question marks for me. A lot of those, honestly, I don't know for sure if he's going to have the red zone role, even before Charbonnet gets back.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I don't know how explosive that offense is going to be. It was good. Last year, it was efficient last year. We'll see. They've taken steps on the O line that I love. like obviously gray zabel was an amazing draft pick last year but i think there's some incomplete aspect like if jamy's right and i think he will be by the way that he just gets steamed up but i i think it could be round three like pushing because if people are looking at the board and just being like
Starting point is 00:22:41 well he's the lead back on seattle sharp but he's not back until week eight all i'm competing against is halani and emmanuel wilson people aren't going to really give them the credit and respect in my mind that ceilk coaching staff might be so it's going to kind of look on paper like wow this guy is a clear leadback role on the Seattle Seahawks. Why are we drafting some kind of, you know, some timeshare guys over him? So I think he'll probably get steamed up to a point where it doesn't add up with the profile from the receiving standpoint or from kind of the upside standpoint. Just real quick. Just, you know, I went to the combine for a few years. It was the Ken Walker class speaking to Ken Walker. His, you know, cat past catching potential was also a question.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I believe, where was he before Michigan State? Wherever he was, he was a little bit more. more involved in his first stint in college as a receiver. He was an ACC. It was an ACC team. I was thinking Wake Forest, but I don't know if that's right. It was Wake Forest. Oh, it was. Wow, what a call.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I remember that was a conversation. He had 19 catches, Jamie. Ken Walker had 19 catches in college in three years. Yeah, it was a story because Ryan Wilson likes to tell the joke. Walker was Ryan's number one running back that year. And most people liked Breeze Hall better. And we were on set with both of them. And I said to Breece, I go, hey, this guy has you number two.
Starting point is 00:24:00 What would you say to him? Briefing him for look of death. It's awesome. And Ryan likes to remind me of that all the time. I just went back and looked to Derry and Price in high school, his junior and senior year, he had 28 catches in his junior year and 11 games and 27 catches in his senior year. So if he can be a 25 catch guy, which I think is realistic, not necessarily hard to do if he's a full-time guy, like that just gives him a little bit more of a bump.
Starting point is 00:24:25 and then anything on top of that, like if he can get into the 30 range, like then we are talking about a guy that could significantly outperform what his ADP at least is right now are setting up to me. Yeah, but Jamie, in high school, 35% of his catches came in one game against a team that was, that gave up the third. I'm just giving it an offer. The heck is that, Brown?
Starting point is 00:24:46 No, I'm just giving like a crazy stupid made-up stat. Okay, second question here, which first round? We also have just to put in perspective, a new play caller in Seattle. So, you know, run game coordinator from San Francisco. Obviously, I like to throw to their backs. So we'll see if that matters too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Which first round rookie is a bad fit for his team's offense, Jacob? I have not thought about this at all. Let me think about this for a moment. Hopefully nobody. I think people would point towards Lemon. But what I would say, just because Hertz is like league low in terms of targeting the middle of the field. But I do think the lemon can do a lot more than just. the slot stuff that he's done.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And if you look at the GM and the coach speak, they both point towards that a lot, that he can beat all sorts of different coverage types work from the inside and the outside. And then also we have a new play caller in Philadelphia. So maybe we do see Hertz's game expanded a little bit. But in terms of just like on paper, the fit there probably feels the most awkward of the round one guys.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah. For me, it's definitely lemon. I mean, look, I have a little bit more faith in both lemon and sour I thought it was a great discussion with Matt Harmon and Nate Tyson. They're saying like, these guys are also like, yeah, they win on in breaking routes, but they also can win with the quick outbreaking routes. And that's the again area of the field. Hertz has been a little bit better targeting.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I still have question marks there. I mean, I just flashbacks to last year's Thursday night football game against the Giants where he tried in the red zone to throw an outbreaker and Cordell Flott jumped it for pick six. And it was really telegraphed. And it was really bad velocity throw behind the receiver. So I don't necessarily know if any of their game fits. It hurts, but that's a problem that any receiver who was going to join the Eagles was going to have for me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Let me throw out a – let me throw out this one. Do we think that Jeremiah Love might be a bad fit for a team that has three legit past catching options already? And I mean, I think a lot of people consider them to have a bad offensive line. The Cardinals did draft an offensive lineman with their second. round pick. ESPN's run block win rate had them at 15, but PFF had them at 29, so I never know what to believe there. But I feel like Jeremiah Love's going to have to be involved, Jamie, in the passing game, to
Starting point is 00:27:10 a pretty good degree. I mean, I think they need to use him that way, because he can be really good that way. But, yeah, I mean, considering they have arguably the best tight end and these two wide receivers who look good last year at times, is he. it going to be enough for him? Is he a bad fit for Arizona? I don't, I mean, look, it's not the most ideal fit, you know, especially if they're going
Starting point is 00:27:32 to keep everybody on their depth chart. So, you know, it's not just that they have those three pass catchers. They have James Connor, who also can do that. They have Trey Benson, who I think can still potentially be involved in that. I don't think there's going to be Tyler Al Jare, but it really comes down to, for me, like, who's going to be the quarterback? If it's Carson Beck and you're asking him to support all of these guys, then I'm going to be terrified. You know, if it's obviously Jacoby Burset or even Gardner-Minscha, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:59 guys who have had success in this type of situation, you know, bad teams, having to throw a lot, having to play sort of, you know, this heroic style of football late in games, then I think it's going to be fine. It just really comes down to like, any team that he was going to go to, he was going to make better. Any situation that he was going to go to, they were going to feature him. Is this the type of offense, you know, again, it's a new play caller, it's a new coach. So we'll see how this is. But when you see the investment, knowing that they had so many holes to fill, and they go out and they just say,
Starting point is 00:28:32 we're taking what we consider to be the best player in this draft, best player at third overall, I think that just speaks volumes to how much they're going to use them. So it really comes down to for what we do is how much of an investment do you want to make in him. And I think where he went in our draft on Tuesday was perfect. Early round three, you know, went in that mix of running backs of, you know, right after Gentie and Hampton. behind Chase Brown.
Starting point is 00:28:56 You can argue the Josh Jacobs pick, you know, where that went. Jacobs falling in that draft. But around those guys, Ken Walker, all that group of running backs. Like Derek Henry, like I think you just put him in that in that second back half of round one. That's appropriate. So ideal landing spot, ideal situation, ideal offense, probably not on paper. But I don't think that matters for a talent like him. I think his, you know, his performance will speak for itself if he gets enough work.
Starting point is 00:29:24 For what it's worth, Michael, four offenses have not thrown to the running back position very much. Brees Hall's lowest target total came in his rookie season, and that was his lowest per game total, too, other than last year, which was obviously just the mess with the Jets. And that's the most that a low floor offense is thrown to the running back position in terms of like a running back in their targets per game, 4.4 targets per game for Brees Hall that year. Then it's Kyrim Williams with four targets per game,
Starting point is 00:29:48 and that's back in 2023 and no other running back has had more than that in this offense. It does feel a little bit awkward, the Arizona fit within the McBride and the receivers. Yeah. All right. Maybe my last question about the day one guys. Which rookie, Jacob, I'll go to you first. Which rookie should be drafted second in redraft leagues?
Starting point is 00:30:06 Jeremiah Love is going to be first. The draft we did the other day, I believe Carnell Tate was second, but we thought maybe Price would be. Who do you think should be drafted second among the rookies? I would probably go with Tyson. I think that he has the most upside. Price does scare me for a lot of reasons. So if you do want to check out these individual profiles I have on Beyond the Box course,
Starting point is 00:30:25 there's a bunch of research. And he would have to be like Nick Chubb level good, I think, to be a fantasy contributor within the parameters that we have for what he looks like on paper, which is a running back who really struggles in short yard situations. And isn't much of a passing doubts contributor. I think that this might sound silly. But Emmanuel Wilson is really, really solid of those two things. He's a success rate machine.
Starting point is 00:30:47 And he's a good passper character, big body. So I think he'll probably be splitting early. and then Zach Charbonnet is looming. There's obviously upside with him, but there's upside with Tyson, too. I think the fit is really, really perfect there. And Kellynne Moore is just the exact type of offensive coordinator to get Tyson a lot of free releases where he's moving around before the snap and finding perfect ways to strain defenses and create space for Tyson to win one-on
Starting point is 00:31:10 matchups, which is what he's very good at. What he's not good at is like winning off of the line, getting physical with players, winning through the catch point. He needs space. I think he's in a perfect situation here with the Saints. So that's probably who I would lean towards, although I haven't done, I've only done positional rankings. I haven't done overall rankings yet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Dan, same question. Which rookie should be drafted second in redraft leagues? Yeah, I actually just had this decision, sort of. I mean, it was love them Mendoza. It was super flex, but I had the same decision. It's not like I was going to take Ty Simpson at three. And I took Tyson. I feel very similarly.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Jacob outlined a great case for him. Wow. Okay. But you did that in a rookie draft. In a dynasty rookie. Yeah, yeah. Adam's a redraft. Adam's asking for redraft.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Oh, the answer would still be Tyson for me. I'm not very, I'm not as high on this Cardinal Tate Titan situation. I think, look, Kim Ward has an explosive arm, and he's really good off script, and he's really good at the intermediate level, which could be great for Tate. I think he, if you look at the numbers dating back to even his last season in Miami, he struggled with vertical throws, the 20 plus yard air throws, the ball placement, the accuracy numbers. It was all down at Miami and down in his first season of the Titans.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Yeah, it was. But I do think he's a good fit in that intermediate range, you know. He is good in the intermediate range. But I think that offense could devolve very quickly into Juan Bell Robinson, 150 targets. Keller Moore has been so good for fantasy. I feel like that's just such an easy one to bet on. There could be an injury or something with Tyson. But Kell and moreman, it's just, like, to put together fantasy juggernauts over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And particularly, he's been really good at, like, using the slot. Like, he's produced more PPR points from the slot in Keenan Allen seasons and C.D. Lam seasons than we've ever seen before. and I don't it's not fair to Tyson to be like oh he's going to be keen in a non or Cidley land but those are two guys who were like actually kind of does move a little bit like them before the catch in terms of the quickness laterally and stuff like that both those guys came to mind for me and Dan we watched a bunch of Tyson film I think it's such a good fit cool let's get in some rookie gems so we've heard a lot over the last few weeks about before the draft and after the draft about the round one guys certainly we've we've hammered
Starting point is 00:33:14 that point home but how about after that um Jacob I'm going to let you you start? Who do you want to highlight here? And let's frame it appropriately. We're not saying that you need to draft these guys and redraft leagues. We're saying we like these players. If something breaks right, they could have a nice fantasy impact. I won't put words in your mouth. How do you want to frame these rookie gems? And then you can talk about whoever you want to talk about. Yeah. So we've gone like super, super off the deep end sicko picks over the past couple of years with these rookie gems. I look back at last year's answers and it was like basically everyone was around four through seven. I'm going to cheat a little bit here because this class is maybe not as good, relatively speaking.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And Adam wanted some more relevant players. So I'm going to go to the round three pick, early round three pick. I really like Antonio Williams game. He's a slot receiver mostly, but I do think he can win on the outside. And if you read the coach speak, the GM speak on this guy, they love him to death. I really liked his game, but I think that he's kind of like the Elijah Moore type of profile where it's like really, really good winner from the inside, but we're kind of moving. It seems like the Inelves kind of moving in a direction where that kind of player doesn't matter as much. And so I was like,
Starting point is 00:34:24 unless he gets a perfect fit, I'm probably not going to care about him for fantasy. And then he goes to a team that really seems to value all of the skills that he brings and thinks that he has the toughness to play in two receiver sets as well. They really talked about his blocking, his ability to win over the middle, his fearlessness over the middle in terms of taking hits. They think he's a bigger, more physical presence than the typical slot receiver archetype. I feel so good about Williams with the caveat that like to Adam's point about drafting rookie drafts too early, we could easily see Brandon Iuk, Stefan Diggs, Juan Jennings, somebody like that, come in here and change the equation a little bit.
Starting point is 00:34:59 But as it currently stands, he's in an offense with a really good quarterback with a new play caller who could open some things up in terms of play action and stuff like that to boost efficiency and no clear target hog and really no other target presence behind Terry McLaurin, who's kind of always topped out of that 22% target share range. So things are great for him for fantasy purposes. And I actually did like the film and data evaluation. I just didn't know how it translate. But now that he's in a good spot,
Starting point is 00:35:24 I feel really good about it. He's going on one in rookie drafts now. It's, you know, I think when you start to get past like the 10th, 11th pick, like. Even where it gets worse, even at eight, I feel like it just gets better. That's fair. You know, there's just, you look for fit.
Starting point is 00:35:41 You look for opportunity. I think Jacob said it best. Like this could be one where we get screwed over a little bit for 2026, but McCorne's 29. Right. You could certainly see a situation where they're done with him and whoever they add, whether it's, you know, Jennings or Diggs or
Starting point is 00:35:56 Ayuk or, you know, shockingly, maybe Tyree Kill, you know, all these older receivers that are not going to be around very long. So, it could be a great situation for Williams, even if he doesn't necessarily have that type of production as rookie season. Yeah, looking at the draft grades on our draft tracker. This one got an A-plus from Mike Renner, Antonio Williams going to the commanders early
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Starting point is 00:36:41 Please sit and enjoy. Please sit and stretch. Steep. Flip. or that and enjoy via rail love the way okay dan you're up all right keeping with the theme of trying to find not so deep gems for now started off with the less deep ones and players who might actually impact redraft right away i'm going to go with a player who i think is down on some people's boards he's all the way up at nine for me overall my dynasty rankings and that's deshawn stribling the wide receiver
Starting point is 00:37:14 from the 49ers they made a much earlier draft pick than people expected I looked into stribling more after the draft. Saw a little bit of him pre-draft. When I watched him, it wasn't the most complete wide receiver profile. I wasn't a huge fan of him. But when he was drafted to the 49ers, like, this is exactly where he needs to be. It's the exact profile that I think will win in that type of scheme and that type of system that Shannon runs. It's the ability to win on overs and win with the ball after the catch.
Starting point is 00:37:41 This is exactly the type of receiver they've drafted and they've had success with. And a Brandon Ayuk mold to me, just that ability, I think at one point he reached 23 miles per hour last season, post-catch, shriveling, one of the fastest, if not the fastest speeds of any receiver. It's what they're looking for. Somebody to run the overs, off the play action, catch the ball, have Purdy, time it up perfectly the way Bertie does. And then once he's in space, he'll do the rest. And so the fit's awesome.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I think he'll get on the field early because he can block better, much better than Ricky Pearsall. Heck, he can block probably immediately better than almost every receiver on that team, especially if they don't re-sign-sign-sign-sign-signy-s. So essentially, I feel like they'll just use him like Jennings. So I don't really understand any of the drawback was tribling outside the age, the lack of production profile. Obviously, coming from a team where production wasn't easy at college and a system and scheme and quarterback play where it wasn't easy. Age is definitely a factor. He's not like the loosest receiver out there.
Starting point is 00:38:32 He's not, it's not like watching Jordan Tyson run routes. But I don't think it needs to be. I don't think Debo Samuel was the greatest route runner ever either with San Francisco. And he was uber productive there as well. So the blocking will get him on the field early. The post-scatch explosion will make it fun and fantasy very high on stribling. Yeah, stribling is 6'2, and he ran a 4-3-640. And I looked at the list of guys who were 6-2, and I don't know if I had 6'2 or higher,
Starting point is 00:39:00 probably 6'2 or taller, and ran, he ran a 4-3-6, I put a 4-3-8, 40 or better. And you get guys like, you know, back in the day, Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, but more recently, D.K. Metcalfe, Brian Thomas, Jr., Christian Watson. Then you get DJ Chark, Adonai, Mitchell, and it's a list of guys. eyes with high A-Dots for the most part. So my fear with stribling, he was taken really early in the second round. I mean, kind of like when we'd be very interested in a wide receiver, just seemed like a huge reach, is that he just becomes, what are we calling it now,
Starting point is 00:39:31 the sacrificial X, the deep ball guy, because these big, I don't see that in that offense, though. That's not how that offense operates. It's what kind of did with Pearsall last year. And it really bothered me with Pearsall. Carole is a very different player, though, yeah. And now, he is. He shouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:39:47 he used that way. I agree. And now they have Evans. You know, maybe they use Evans that way. I don't know, but stripling. I just hope he doesn't become a deep ball guy, basically. He didn't, he did not catch, caught 14 deep balls in 56 career games in college. I don't really know what to make of him, but.
Starting point is 00:40:06 I think the fun thing about Kyle Shanhan is that he's one of the best at evolving his, you know, profile a little bit, you know, and using what works best for him at that time. And, you know, you've seen different versions. of this, you know, the Debo Samuel run offense, the Christian McCaffrey run offense, you know, how George Kittle has, you know, evolved from, I don't want to say just a red zone threat, but, you know, clearly his game continues to, you know, keep improving. And so, you know, he caters to his personnel. He's obviously had to cater to what Brock Party has done based on what he had with Jimmy Garoppel and what they thought they were going to get with Tray Lance. And so now you're
Starting point is 00:40:39 adding a Hall of Fame guy in Mike Evans. You're adding, you know, a guy that a lot of people think they reach for clearly in shribling, but his game may feel. fit to what this offense needs. You know, we haven't seen what really Ricky Pearsall can do because he's been injured so much and, you know, had a lot of them as time in the preseason process, you know, with the gunshot wound and some injuries last year. So like this is, and now you have Kittle coming off in Achilles injury, you know. So there's a lot of moving parts again for San Francisco with a 30 year old running back.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Like this, this is one of these guys, I think, and stribling that he, and I think Williams, too, you know, we have the comment in the chat. like we're going to look back on this and say this was like the amount around St. Brown. I think when you look at these guys, like these are good fits for either opportunity or role or both or system or both. Like he could be, he could be fascinating, you know, just based on an injury or even just a year away when Evans is 33 and he leaves the team. Like this could be a big piece of what San Francisco and Kyle Shanahan do. It's assuming Shanahan still there. Can I throw out an old school Shanahan comp and get your opinion on this for Stribling?
Starting point is 00:41:45 Somebody who had success with him in Washington and San Francisco is Pierre Garsohn. Oh, Garsohn. I think Garsohn could do a little bit more as a route runner. But a deep ball guy who could also do some of the short stuff can move into the slot a little bit, had a little bit of yak, was just really tough. I've been trying to figure out who he reminds me of from Shanahan receivers. And I was thinking of like Joan Jennings and Kendrick Bourne and players like that. But I'm like, he's just way faster, way more athletic than those guys. and then Garsohn's who I kind of landed on.
Starting point is 00:42:15 In terms of recent players, I feel like Romeo Dobbs is who I've been throwing out to people where it's like the Dobbs track kind of, where it's like typically this kind of player in terms of the way that they win as an NFL player doesn't often get a lot of targets or be that meaningful for fantasy. But I do think he's better than Dobbs.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I think he's a little bit more physical. He's faster. Has I think better feel for like space after the catch and stuff like that. So maybe you can expand on that a little bit and he's maybe a better offense too. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:44 All right. Jacob, you're back on the clock with another rookie gem. Yeah, so I like this stribling call out, but he's not somebody I would go to because, like I said, I think I have a hard time seeing the ultimate upside.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Is he ever going to be like a target hog type of player? And so that's, I'm taking bigger swings here with like Antonio Williams or I think he could be somebody who gets like a target share above 20%. And so the other guy who, for me, from this class stands out in that way is Chris Bell in Miami. It would be a wait and see thing.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I doubt that we'll see a bunch of, early in the year. But Louisville receiver, Chris Bell, awesome, awesome on film in his fourth season there really broke out in a huge way and could have had a lot more. The quarterback play was, I mean, if you watch it, you see Chris Bell like throwing his hands up all the time,
Starting point is 00:43:26 making, kind of showing his quarterback up. So we'll see if that translates to the pros. Jake doesn't care about the character, folks. Yeah, that only adds to the AJ Brown comparisons, which are pretty clear. Like when you watch him in the collegiate levels, like that literally looks like AJ Brown out here against college guys. and he's a more refined player, I think, than you would expect,
Starting point is 00:43:45 given the archetype of, like, big physical guy, but he's to break out until year four. I think he's a much better version of, like, the Xavier League type of players that we've seen come in recently where their big athletic presence, but they didn't break onto late, and why is that? And then you watch him at the NFL level, and like, oh, there's a lot of reasons why.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I think this guy can win at the tops of his routes and that win coming back to the ball with physicality and they can win with the ball in his hands as well. So in a Miami offense that really doesn't have, anyone like that at all. He's pretty intriguing late in the year. Yeah, I'm probably going to take Chris Bell over stribling. I probably will have this decision to make when I pick 11th and 12th in our stupid Dynasty
Starting point is 00:44:23 League, which sucks. But why does the Dynasty League? Because I suck. Your team is so bad in it. That's not a fair way to go about it. I know. I'm joking. Play better.
Starting point is 00:44:33 What was the Malik Neighbors trade again? I traded Malik neighbors for some bag of popcorn and, uh, What was it? Why didn't you come to people like a, there's a Giants fan in the league. You didn't even give him a chance to match the offer. You don't even know. You don't even know. You can text me at him.
Starting point is 00:44:50 We text all the time about nonsense. You can text me about something important. Like I'm trading neighbors. He's on the block. It's a top dynasty player, like a top 20 dynasty player. Can you beat this offer? And I might have beaten it. Honestly, what was again?
Starting point is 00:45:02 No, it doesn't matter what it was. I don't want to talk about it. I want to know what you got for neighbors. I need to know. But now it's relevant. Like, now we're in the rookie drafts. Jamie, what was it? Listen, I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Chris Bell. Yeah, we like Chris Bell. I think the Dolphins situation is fascinating. He's drafted three wide receivers. Bell may not play much this year. If I'm Miami, I almost give him a redshirt year because this is not going to matter very much and make sure this guy is healthy because he might be very relevant for them in the future. I think Caleb Douglas, you know, I was talking to Pete Priscoe about him.
Starting point is 00:45:36 He said a lot of people in the league like him much more than the draft Nick people did, based on where the rankings were. So, like, he heard from a lot of people around the league that the dolphins got a very nice pick in a nice player in Douglas. We'll see how that matters. And then Kevin Coleman's another guy that's going to, you know, be potentially involved for them. It's just like this receiving core on paper could be absolutely disastrous, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:57 and all three of these rookies may matter when you're talking about Jalen Tolbert and Tutu Atwell and Malik Washington. Like, that's what these guys are competing with. And they can come in and be significant playmakers right away. Okay. Let's go to our next one. Dan, who's your next pick? Fortunately, I was just told what the trade was in the chat.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I have no idea when you did this, but it was just unbelievably bad. Just recently, oh, my God. Oh, you want the trade? I'll tell you with trade. No, I don't care about the trade anymore. Adam trade and Malik neighbors, one of the best players in Dynasty overall, pretty much. For Michael Wilson, who I actually like, but not to that extent, a crappy 20261 that he's going to do nothing with.
Starting point is 00:46:34 It's like stribling or, yeah, okay, we're muting him. And then a two and a three. All right. Let me tell you my next gen. No, I got two first round picks and a two and a three. Okay. One is the second first. I hope in 2027.
Starting point is 00:46:46 No. Unfortunately, these picks are terrible now. I mean, I thought, I didn't think this draft would be this bad. That team is going to be so bad for so many years in the dynasty team. Oh, my God. It already is. It already is, my friend. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:00 This is the curse of darnal Mooney for you. All right, let's go a little faster here. I want you guys to get more players. Okay, okay. Let me get to my next one. Go ahead. It's one of my favorite bets in this entire class before the draft. and I don't mind the landing spot.
Starting point is 00:47:11 It's Head Hearst, the wide receiver out of Georgia State. This guy is 6'4-4-4-2, 204 pounds, ran a 4-4-2, and has a 32, almost 33-inch arms and uses them well. He's unbelievable tracking the football on the vertical plane. He can accelerate post-catch in ways that are exciting for someone who's 6'4. He is the closest athletic comp, and not athletic, I mean, movement comp. Somebody, when I watch the tape, I see it, to George Pickens that I've seen since George Pickens came into the NFL.
Starting point is 00:47:38 He's not George Pickens, but he has some aspects of his game that you might say are maybe a little bit more intriguing. The 4-4-2 speed, the post-cats burst. He was a former no-star recruit, and now he's a NFL draft pick in round three to the bucks, a team that lost Mike Evans, has developed wide receivers in really good ways and has really scouted wide receivers well. At Bucca, McMillan, I thought, was a good job scouting. Tess Johnson was a good job scouting, understands the wide receiver's position and what to win. His ability to kind of sink his hips at the top of the routes is really, canny for somebody who's six foot four and two hundred four pounds i have a couple things i wanted to
Starting point is 00:48:13 bring with him i mean he's got production he had 34 catches of 20 plus yards that's obviously an fbs and so obviously it's not you know you want to take that into account but this is what really stands out to me as far as like getting the hype machine going steve smith former nfl receiver said he has the ability and shows flashes of a quote unquote faster larry fitzgerald and then he went over the tape and he's like this is what fits used to do and he's like showing examples Greg Cassell, Godfather of Tape said, if this guy played at any of the Power 5 scores of Power Force conferences, he would have been a first round traffic.
Starting point is 00:48:43 And I completely agree with him. I don't mind the landing spot and I'm all in on Hearst. All right. Hey, have a question for you. Movie trivia. He's his name to Elsa. Yeah, I was going to say movie trivia. Name the movie that this character is in.
Starting point is 00:48:56 And I freeze again. Olaf. I don't know, but I can't believe this is freezing again. I just did so many things to fix this issue. You don't know Olaf? I don't know, Olaf. Elsa? You were frozen the entire time.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Why would I have ever seen frozen? I was frozen the entire time. So brutal. I don't know what's happening. He unfrored. Literally. Thomas, Thomas figured it out,
Starting point is 00:49:17 talk to IT, do all the work. The moment he stopped talking, he unfroze. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. Why?
Starting point is 00:49:24 Why? I love the Ted Hurst call out. Yeah. So, so far, Antonio Williams, and Chris Bell, from Jacob,
Starting point is 00:49:34 Desjohn, Stribling, and Ted Hurst, for Dan and Jacob you're on the clock. I've got lots of other receivers, but let's get them a non-receiver. I'm going to go with Daman Claiborne, Minnesota, round six, wide open backfield potentially, one where there could be injuries. Sorry, Dan.
Starting point is 00:49:51 KOC, love the offensive fit there. And man, the idea of him and Calder-Murray together in the backfield potentially could be a lot of fun, a lot of speed there for defenses to worry about. That offensive line could be good at moments last year that looked really, really good before they all got hurt. And I really liked his film. I think there's some receiving upside potentially, but mostly you're looking for explosive plays. So I think he's a really interesting guy that you're going to get at the end of drafts for free,
Starting point is 00:50:14 who could be worth this stash and could come on strong at some point. And even though he's small, he showed an ability to handle a lot of work up the middle, handle multiple games of 20 plus touches at the collegiate level. So I think there's some upside. Probably Minnesota doesn't want him in that type of a role, but there's some upside of an E.B that he could push into 10, 15, 20 touches in a game. I wonder if, I love the call, I wonder if because this running back class is not very exciting, at least not very exciting going in. And you saw two guys in round one and then just everybody sort of fall later in the draft, you know, Jonah Coleman, et cetera, on the way down, Kaelin Black, whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Like you get a guy like Claiborne who, and I put sort of Ketron Allen in the same sort of category, you know, these murky backfields or at least older potential for, you know, immediate playing time. like these there there are a couple of guys that you could see being relevant now will they be like damien pierce relevant for a year and then they kind of get replaced because the next year's crop or you know i'm not so well versed in the 2027 running back class but let's just say like there there's a deeper group and a better group um that there's a short-term window so like erin jones gets hurt they don't want to give jordan mason the full workload or they kind of you know use clayborne in tandem them with Mason or maybe both get hurt or in the case of Allen and Washington. You know, he's competing with a seventh round guy and Jacorri Karaski-Merry.
Starting point is 00:51:36 He's competing with more of a past catching guy and Rashad White. Like we get Alan getting immediate touches. Like I'm so curious about a couple of these situations, Jonah Coleman, you know, how they're going to use him in Denver with a limited, you know, draft capital. They go and get a running back again. And obviously, Dobbins may not be there very long after this year. So like Claiborne is, is fascinating. You know, this is the type of guy.
Starting point is 00:51:57 You know, again, I traded my third round pick. and the pick was for for Claiborne. Like that could be a guy by the time we get to August and the non-fund people like Adam are doing their drafts. Claiborne has a role based on what O'Connell's saying, based on what the reports are like, he could be a round two pick for a guy that's going around, or late round two probably at the earliest in one quarterback leagues,
Starting point is 00:52:18 but most likely to see him in the round three range. In Dynasty, of course, Jamie is talking about. Correct. Some news from Mike Garifolo, Darius Slayton, just recently underwent surgery. for, I have to sneeze. Core muscle. Oh, damn it, I lost it.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Core muscle. That might have been how he did it. Derek Slayton recently underwent surgery for a core muscle injury. He should be full go for training camp. So now Dan's going to tell you why Malachi Fields is a rookie gem. No, he wouldn't be my next pick. My next pick would be Emma Johnson, a running back out of Nebraska, who I toyed with the idea pre-draft of having us my RB2 overall, just based on my first.
Starting point is 00:52:59 and how good the tape was. This is a player who I believe was Doc because he ran the 4-55. Similar to me, Bucky Irving, it was pretty much played out exactly the same, not similar players or prospects, but played out exactly the same. They both had good tape.
Starting point is 00:53:12 They both show the ability to process behind the line of scrimmage, to understand and set up blocks, to make those quick cuts to get in and out of spaces and get themselves in advantage situations. But they both ran those high four-fives and then both became day three draft picks. With Johnson, I feel like he doesn't have the same maybe, burst and explosiveness is Bucky,
Starting point is 00:53:32 but he definitely has the same make you missability and he definitely has the same processing. And I think he has an even better receiving profile coming out in Nebraska. You watch that game tape and you see it was a big part of their offense. I always say this. Any of the running backs you watch in college
Starting point is 00:53:43 that are a big part of the passing game, and I mean just not getting like occasional dump downs or design screens. Literally, they're designing aspects of their game plan for this player. I believe they translate well from receiving profile to the next level. And I look at that chiefs roster and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:53:57 yeah, they signed Kenneth Walker. but Ken's Walker's never been a massive workload guy at any point in his career and is that a major injury history and the Chiefs in recent years not at all times but in recent years for sure
Starting point is 00:54:07 and most of Andy Reid's tenure have featured multiple backs. I could potentially see Emmett Johnson stepping right into the Grim Hunt role and that Kareem Hunt role has been super fruitful for fantasy with Kareem Hunt operating it. Emmett Johnson is just a better version
Starting point is 00:54:21 of what Kreme Hunt can offer on a snap or snap basis. I don't know if necessarily the same Red Zone role that Hunt Hunt had and that was a big factor in his fantasy value, but I don't necessarily know that he won't either. So just a great player that I liked on tape. And I think the landing spot's better than people are expecting.
Starting point is 00:54:36 All right. Let's get one more round here. Jacob, your last rookie gem for today's show. Of course, you can hear more on Beyond the Box score. But this will be your fourth. Go for it. He's going deep for this one. Brendan Thompson, man.
Starting point is 00:54:49 He's electric. He's so much fun. And Mike McDaniels just absolutely fired up to get him. Perfect pairing there. a team that needed some speed on the perimeter. They've got some fast players, but he's a true, true deep ball threat, deep ball winner, absolutely great ball tracking in hands. Really, really love this guy's film.
Starting point is 00:55:09 I don't expect it to matter much in year one, but I do think that he could be one injury away, and if he gets on the field, he's going to make big plays. They've already talked about wanting to get him on the field as a returner and stuff like that, and I do think they'll occasionally get on the field just to threaten the defense, because the speed is very, very real. He was just consistently toasting SEC corners last year at Mississippi State. Averaged over three yards for out run.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And I think it can do a little bit more beyond that, too, in terms of breaking his routes horizontally and winning to the sideline and stuff. And so I'm really excited about the pairing with Justin Herbert and his ability to throw with timing and throw with touch over the middle of the field. If we get a chance to actually see Thompson get to play, I think could be huge. Who do you like better long-term, Trey Harris or Brennan? I'll go with Trey Harris. He seems more likely to matter for fantasy purposes long term because he can do a number of things.
Starting point is 00:56:01 He's a bigger physical guy. He can stay on the field because it was blocking. They did invest the round two pick into him. For Thompson, it's like the number of guys who play the way that he plays and are at the weight that he is that have mattered is not a long one. So I was intrigued because I loved his film so much. And then he gets the pairing with Herbert and McDaniel and everything. So it's like, okay, maybe he could be one of the outliers that joins this group. group, but he does have to be an outlier.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Yeah. Brennan Thompson, 5-9, 164 pounds. Couple guys that were similar in size, Marquise Brown and Tank Dell. Brown had two seasons with about 1,100 yards at Oklahoma. Dell had two seasons with more than 1,300 yards. Thompson wasn't nearly as productive as best season last year, 1,000, great season, 1,054 yards and six touchdowns, but his first three seasons, he had to combine 503 yards.
Starting point is 00:56:52 So it didn't really work for him until he moved. to Mississippi State. Also, we just had Dan with a frozen face was the best frozen face ever. That's awesome. Thomas, how did you do that so fast? That was incredible. I'm a big AI guy. Yeah, I get into AI.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Dan, do you know that movie? That's, isn't that just Game of Thrones? No, no, no. That's Jack Nicholas in The Shining. Yeah. Wow. I never thought I'd get that. Ever.
Starting point is 00:57:24 If you had to guess before I could snap that off so fast, what chances of me getting that were? What were they? Plus 600. Yeah, at a minimum. Yeah, especially when you started with a Game of Thrones. Dan thinks everything is Game of Thrones. All right, Dan, your last rookie gem. So how deep do we want to go?
Starting point is 00:57:43 I have three tiers here. We can go through the deepest tier, the second deepest tier, or the shallowest tier. If we can, and maybe this makes his decision easier. At the end, I'd like to just rattle off some random names and just like just the name. Like keep an eye on this guy, like Jack Indris for the, you know, Cincinnati Bengals, round seven tight-in and stuff like that. Where it's like, I actually think he could play this year. It's not a long list.
Starting point is 00:58:06 All right, fine. Also, Dan said Jack Nicholas instead of Jack Nicholson. I never get it right either. So I'm not going to be fun. I had too much golf going on in my brain. Never get that right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Go ahead. Pick one. And then we'll go rapid fire. with the list after. Okay. I don't, that really didn't answer anything as far as. Just pick your favorite because we're going to be able to cover all of them.
Starting point is 00:58:26 So just pick your favorite. Then I'll be like John Michael Gillenborg at the end, you know. Okay. My favorite then will be Eli Raritan, the tight end, the Patriots drafted. This is just the absolute best landing spot for this player. We were all talking pre-draft about he's got the length. He's got the traits that maybe run the seam and what team could actually use him in this way. And it's so Josh McDaniels.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Like, this is not Rob Grancowski, but he certainly got close. closest thing to Rob Gargowski's frame that 6-7 lengthy body that McDaniels had to work with since Rob Grankowski. And he's got some explosive traits. And he has some moments on film where you're like, all right, this guy is a big time receiving profile. But mostly he's got that blocking profile that will never go away. You watch him block down on ends. He'll be in for 90% of the snaps in no time into England. And when he's on the field, he could ultimately become a red zone guy. He could become a big seam stretcher for them. Scott Drake May, one of the best quarterbacks, the NFL to me by far, as far as throwing the football. I don't even think it's close at this point.
Starting point is 00:59:19 There's only like a few guys in his tier as far as throwing the ball and keeping an offense on time and racking up passing yards. So it's an awesome fit for me in all ways. And I think the talent and the player is good held back a little bit by the Notre Dame scheme, by this quarterback play, even though they had car last year. I just feel like this is a team that, I mean, this is a player that could really shine in this situation. Okay, let's go. Rapid fire, Jacob. All right. Two guys for the Bengals, just good offense. Decent talents. It's the tight-in-jackendress round seven. And then Colby Young was a favorite of Dan's, really rangy athlete, both worth knowing. Four guys who could win the slot role for their offenses, Zacharii Branch for the Falcons, Jeremy Bernard, for the Steelers, both really good with the ball and their hands. Elijah Surratt is a favorite of Dan and mine. And then Malachi Fields. So Sarat's with Baltimore Fields is with the Giants. Those are two bigger-bodied guys that could get on the field and could, you know, get you some PPR points if need be, if something were to happen to the top-recee,
Starting point is 01:00:17 in their offense, for example. Ketron Allen was a really good callout. We already talked about. For Miami, they've got Caleb Douglas and Kevin Coleman Jr. are two rookies to know, round three, round five picks. Kevin Coleman Jr. is more of the manufacturer touch type of slot player like Malik Washington, so I doubt that we see him much. Caleb Douglas is kind of like Colby Young, bigger rangeer athlete, probably pretty raw.
Starting point is 01:00:38 I don't think either of them will probably matter, but they are names to know. Talin Green is definitely a name to know with all the ambiguity about what's going to happen with the Cleveland Browns, because if he gets on the field, field. He has the rushing upside to be fantasy relevant. And then I also think Oscar Dope is a really good call. It'll end with him for the New Orleans Saints. I doubt that he matters much, but they really love him. And they've talked about using him in line and having him as somebody that can be on the field all of the time. And he's really good to the ball in his hands, really good athlete. So there's the potential, you know, I want to bet on Kalmore's office. There's potential that he does get unlocked in year one. So keeping on him.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Branch is one of my favorites. I just think that it's almost like Antonio Williams light, like just great. opportunity. There's not a lot of competition for receivers there. He's going to be fun with the ball in his hands. It's just a matter of, you know, what we see from Tua or Pennick's off injury in this offense. But, I mean, you look at it. You got Munden Pitts, Bijon, you know, will he get 100 targets again? Like, there's nobody else. People are making fun of me for the rapid fire. Like, that was like two minutes or something, right? That's amazing. That's amazing rapid fire for me. Rapid fire for me is normally 10 minutes. That was actually very good, very efficient. And Antonio, you called Zacharii Branch, Antonio Williams Light.
Starting point is 01:01:52 That's quite literally. He's three inches shorter. He's 10 pounds lighter. But they are, they're similar in that. The player who I think is actually Antonio Williams Light is Cyrus Allen for the Chiefs Round 5 draft pick who can be like a real route winner from the inside. They don't ever draft guys like this who can beat me in coverage and stuff. They do always draft guys who have to play in the slot, which appears to be what they have again here.
Starting point is 01:02:12 So I don't think he'll matter. But if something were to like happen to Rashi Rise or something, then he's a name worth knowing. Round five pick out of Cincinnati. I like that call. All right. Adam, do you notice anything different about my background,
Starting point is 01:02:22 by the way, today? I would mean, to ask you this. Five or six Giants things instead of three? No. Tennis racket. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:31 This was meant to intimidate all that. Awesome. Bad boy on to intimidate him. I would not play you right now. It would be pretty bad. Since you're already on the move, open the fridge. Slice action.
Starting point is 01:02:45 No, we're not open. I'll ever do that on this show. By the way, what are you making excuses already? You injured or something? No, I'm just not playing well right. I am injured. I am quite injured, but that's just the-
Starting point is 01:02:58 Yeah, you know that he's reading books about tennis now to get his game. Oh, you're into tennis books now? Trust me, I've gone down that same path with golf. It's not very fruitful. I've read two golf books. They haven't helped me at all. Have you ever read the inner game of tennis? No, what's, no.
Starting point is 01:03:12 It's about the mental approach to it. Oh, that's cool. That's something you need to improve on. I know I have so far. What was I going to say? Open the fridge, Dan. Come on. Open the fridge.
Starting point is 01:03:22 No more. Do you have any more names that want to rattle off, Dan? Actually, on the freezer. You're already cold. Jacob hit Colby Young. Jacob hit a couple of my deep sleepers. Jay Michael Stervian. Sturdivant.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Sturdivant. And I did not talk about him at all. He's Green Bay Packers, UDFA, the Dan likes. Yes. Green Bay Packers, UDFA, one of the better vertical route winners that I watch in this class, especially during this time at UCLA. I really like that. I'll give one.
Starting point is 01:03:46 one really deep one, Marlon Klein, a player who I said in our Sleepers podcast before, I thought he'd be a six round pick, seven round pick, had no production in Michigan, but just looked awesome movement-wise. And then the Texans made him,
Starting point is 01:03:57 what, a second round pick, I think it was. I was going to say he's drafted higher than anyone we've talked about so far. Yeah. And I don't, I think he's essentially
Starting point is 01:04:06 what we've been betting on working at tight end in fantasy for a while. It's bet on traits. That's what tight end has been in fantasy for the last three, four, five years.
Starting point is 01:04:13 So it's another bet on trades guy. I wouldn't be shocked if he gets a role earlier than people think, and he could be really good after the catch. Yeah, actually. What if our audience guesses what's in your refrigerator and you have to show it? Jamie, you're so focused on this.
Starting point is 01:04:25 We're not doing that ever again. It was a mistake to ever do it, and it's never happening again. Oh, I know what I was going to say. We had a listener who also... He also refrigerates peanut butter because that's what Dan does, which I think is weird. It's not that crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:38 It's not that weird. It tastes better. His name is Dan also. He is the best tennis player I've ever like seen. I mean, at like our level. He's...
Starting point is 01:04:49 What do you mean at our level? He couldn't be at our level. You would say he's probably a 5-0. He's a 4-0. He's not like a former college or anything. Yeah, but he would destroy you. He kills everyone. He wouldn't destroy me if he's a 4-0.
Starting point is 01:05:00 He would maybe win a way closer to 4-5 than 4-0. No, you're not. Yes, I'd say. Because if you were 4-5, I wouldn't, I wouldn't either, I'd be, I wouldn't be able to compete with. You wouldn't what, Adam, you wouldn't be able to compete with you. You're not. You're not. You lost 6-0 in the first 6-0 in the first. and then beat me when I was tired and barely could even like catch a breath.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Yeah, four, four, five. You got four games in the second set when I could barely catch a breath. You lost the first said six-o. The year before was what, 6062? Uh, I think so. Yes, it was 606. Yeah, no, back then I couldn't be the-0-6-2-60. I had you on the ropes.
Starting point is 01:05:31 You know if I won that second set I was winning the tiebreaker. You know it. Obviously, I could barely move out there, bud. You think you're four or five and you can barely move. Four-five tennis player has stamina. It's a conditioning issue. I'm Eddie Lacey. I'm the Eddie Lacey of tennis.
Starting point is 01:05:43 What, uh, so it's nothing. my skill set. It's a conditioning issue. Adam, are those only two people you know that refrigerate peanut butter? Yes. My peanut butter's in my fridge. You're right, Jamie. I should. Your peanut butter's in your fridge, too.
Starting point is 01:05:57 What the hell is wrong with you, people? It's disgusting. It's because they're eating peanut butter that doesn't have seed oils in it, Adam. Come on now. I don't know. Whatever the case is. I wanted to go on this rant at some point. Why do people buy the stir peanut butter?
Starting point is 01:06:13 What is the benefit to that? It's stir? Yeah, the ones that's like liquidy and you have to stir it. Who would choose that? I accidentally bought it because it looks exactly the same. That's the peanut butter you have to buy. It's exactly the same as the no stir. The one I bought.
Starting point is 01:06:30 It just doesn't have the words no stir on it. So I accidentally bought it. And it's like, what is the purpose of this? It doesn't taste as good. There's effort that you have to put into it. I don't know who would choose stir peanut butter. You can't see because the shirt matches the chair, but his shoulders are so high right now. Thomas, isn't, correct me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Oh, my God. For those who aren't listening, just another shining picture of me, A-I'd in. But I think the only healthy peanut butter is the stirper on a peanut butter. I don't know. I'm pretty sure. Thomas, correct me. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. If you don't have stir peanut butter, that means there's just a bunch of junk oil in it.
Starting point is 01:07:09 That makes it so it doesn't stir. Not if you get, no. That's why you're not a good tennis player, Adam. Because I don't have the wrong. He's just eating junk and he doesn't realize it. He's like, I don't want to stir. All right, you want to read some emails real quick? Let's go.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Let's finish up here. From Owen and Chester, Virginia. Dear Arch, Julian and Dante, these are upcoming quarterbacks. Okay. Who's Dante? Julian saying Arch Manning, Dante. Dante Moore from Oregon.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Dante Moore. Oh, okay. 12 team soon. Superflex Dynasty League. I finished second last year. I'm in contention mode. I'm a young team. I have picks 110, 111,
Starting point is 01:07:48 25, and 2.9. Considering how awful this year's class appears to be and how good next year's is supposed to be, would it be crazy to try to package picks 110, 11, 25, and 2.9 for a first and second round pick next year? He's a contender now? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:05 I would. Maybe not all of them, but I would consider it. You just heard the names we were giving Who's going to be available to you at 1.10 and 11 Like Dijon Stripling and Antonio Williams So I think I'd probably It's a Super Flex Dynasty League next year They're going to be in so many quarterbacks
Starting point is 01:08:24 That's what I would do it I'd do it I'd do it Here's a keeper question from Josh 12 team half PPR Superflex keep four Superflex Okay
Starting point is 01:08:35 Olaave in the 6th Evans in the 7th Pertie in the 10th Dart in the 14th Fanon 16th Baker Mayfield There it is Baker Mayfield 17th
Starting point is 01:08:52 Bucky Irving 18th All right Can keep how many You can keep four Purdy and Dart for sure Yeah that's obvious I would go Bucky and Olave What was the round for Bucky
Starting point is 01:09:04 Buckie's 18th round Yeah Yeah Buckie for sure based on that And then it's either Alave or Evans. I think I would go Evans. I'm just super high on Evans this year, though. Is Purdy in the 10th better than Baker Mayfield in the 17th? You could keep all three quarterbacks if you want to be a jerk.
Starting point is 01:09:26 I mean, goes to game theory. This is a weird league, man, though. Like, it doesn't really make any sense to me. Like, in what world was Baker available to get as a 17th round keeper? That doesn't add up unless somebody, like, caught him because of the injury. And then it's like, you didn't do the rules right. because you allowed it to go to the free agent guys. This is a really poorly set up league.
Starting point is 01:09:44 I hate to say, and I hate to be that guy. They get these guys forever, though. That's what it looks like. Then that's even, that's not good. Then you may have gotten Baker when he was, you know, out there's not here on the league. Yeah, that's not good either. I don't know, 17 Baker.
Starting point is 01:09:56 It's just rough to see. Makes no sense. Last one. I just read that apparently Brendan Sorsby may enter the supplemental draft in July because of his gambling investigation. This would mean he gets drafted in July, and according to reports,
Starting point is 01:10:09 he would have been into discussion. with Mendoza for QB1 or 2 this year. How do we even handle this for a Superflex rookie draft if it has already started? Well, not a grader. I don't even think about it. I don't think he's even available in the player pool for most places. You cannot draft him now because he's not technically in the NFL. That is a good question, though, as far as like what your league would, I think he would just hit free agency.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Yeah, I mean, like, I know how Heath does his Yolo Dynasty League, where, post-draft, he just freezes transactions, and then we have a free agent bidding process right before the start of the season. So you would just have to pick them up then. Adam's draft will just allow him to be selected at the time of the draft. Yeah, because it's going to be a free agent for anybody doing rookie draft now. This is why you don't draft early, because people get investigated for gambling and end up in the supplemental draft.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Yeah, I think the freeze makes sense. You talk about Dan? All right. Well, I have to sneeze and blow my nose, so I'm going to end the show. Thank you to the Beyond the Box Corps crew. Remember to email Dave Richard at D.Richard at cbs.com. If you want to be in our fans-only mock draft, send him an email. We'll talk to you on Monday on Dennis for president.
Starting point is 01:11:32 See you.

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