Fantasy Football Today - Big Injury News, Mailbag and Fantasy Cops! (09/25 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 25, 2021Updates on Dalvin Cook, DeAndre Hopkins, Christian McCaffrey and more before we read your emails (8:55) at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com, get the Fantasy Cops (26:00) on the case and get to your Apple Podc...ast questions (33:40). Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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What a play.
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Touchdown.
Oh, he's done it again.
Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck.
Well, week three could have Christian McCaffrey leaving early with a hamstring injury.
No Dalvin Cook, perhaps.
No DeAndre Hopkins, perhaps.
No Carson Wentz.
Anyway, we've got a lot of injuries to talk about here on our Saturday Mailbag.
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Jamie Isenberg and Dan Schneier.
And we have a little bit more news on Christian McCaffrey,
so we will get to that. Anyway, I hope
you guys have a wonderful weekend. Now let's go win some
Fantasy Leagues. Wait, what day is it?
I mean, right now it's Friday.
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure.
Right now, Jamie Alexander
Madison is still available in about 35% of leagues.
So what do we do?
You pick them up.
I mean, clearly there's a chance
that Dalvin Cook could still play,
but I found it pretty fascinating
that Chris Thomason, who covers the Vikings
for the St. Paul Pioneer Press,
said that as far as he can recall,
in Mike Zimmer's tenure,
only one time has a player mispracticed on Friday and played.
So that was Kyle Rudolph, I think he said in 2017.
Now, he amended his story to the guests to say
Davakuk did a little bit in practice,
and they're listing him as questionable.
But the fact that he did not practice in full on Friday
is never a good sign.
So my guess is that they're going to
probably sit him knowing his injury track record.
All right, so let's say he's out.
Not official, clearly, but that's just my thought.
Let's say he's out. I'll start with you,
Jamie, and then we'll go to Dan. Where would you rank
Alexander Madison this week
against the Seahawks?
You want to ask Dan? I'll pull up my ranking so I can
give you more definitive. Dan, where is
Jamie going to rank Alexander Madison
this week? Let's go with
that instead.
This is a tough one. I think
Jamie's probably going to rank him. Just given the state of the
running backs, I think he'll probably rank him.
I'm going to go RB18
just inside. Look at that
right now. 19 in PPR.
Well, no. I'm sorry. It will be 18 because Dalvin won't come out.
There we go.
Oh, yeah, there you go.
There you go.
So much better than my Jeopardy appearance.
Never going to live that down.
So that's right behind Barkley?
Right behind Barkley, yeah.
Okay.
So that's Edmonds, Gibson, Barkley, Alexander, Madison.
I think a lot of people are going to have some,
I'll use the same phrase i used earlier
some ptsd on on uh madison because what happened last year remember when he started against atlanta
it was supposed to be the layup of all layups and he uh he was bad but he did come off that
game against seattle and that was where he had his best performance yeah i was looking at it
earlier in the season he also had a hundred total yard performance uh when he got was looking at it earlier in the season. He also had a hundred total yard
performance when he got a chance. So it's not like people remember that one bad game, but he had a
larger sample size of good games in those in that spot. Oh yeah. And he had a huge game in week 17
without Dalvin Cook. He scored two touchdowns over a hundred yards. He was great. I guess the one
thing, if you want to pour a little cold water on it, is maybe Seattle has a good run
defense. I think that they did very well against
Jonathan Taylor, and they did great
against Derrick Henry in the first half.
13 carries, 35 yards.
There's no shame in Derrick Henry
destroying you in the second half of a game. It happens
to the best of us, so it's
something to keep an eye on, but it doesn't really matter. I think you're
going to over or under 20 touches for
Alexander Madison. I'd say slightly under, but north of 15 really matter. I think you're going to over or under 20 touches for Alexander Madison.
I'd say slightly under, but north of 15.
So probably 18 would be where I'd ballpark it.
Right.
Same.
So I know if you've been struggling with James Robinson and Miles Gaskin,
you know the group.
You just go with Madison.
Dan, now we know Christian McCaffrey, as of now, not going on IR, but he's going to miss multiple weeks, I guess.
Not going on IR means that IR is three-week minimum.
So, I don't know.
What's your take on this and how aggressive we should be with Chuba Hubbard?
I wouldn't look too much into the not going on IR thing
because we know for a fact these soft tissue injuries are tricky
and they're not going to want to rush him back
because they've done that in the past with other top athletes
and it's led to further injuries.
As far as Huber goes, we talked about this last night.
I was a little, I was
surprised to see the amount of touches
Freeman got. Not only just he got a red zone touch,
we saw Huber drop the red zone
pass. That's not a good sign.
I think it's not going to be like a Mike
Davis situation, so I'm not
expecting that this year with Chuba Hubbard.
We talked about it on HQ, Jamie, on Friday, yesterday, or today.
I think I said, what did you say?
You said if you had a $100 budget and you had $80 left,
how much would you spend on Hubbard?
And I said $40, and I'm probably not going to get them.
$50 or so if I'm desperate.
What about you?
I think you've got to spend close to all of it,
to be honest with you, just because you're looking at, um, a probably two to three week window,
you know, just if you're, if you're hearing weeks, you know, and they have not ruled out
yet putting him on IR. It doesn't, the report from rap report said that doesn't seem like he's
going on IR, but you said it, Adam, they sort of said, okay, he'll be back in three weeks.
He'll be back in four weeks. He'll be back in five weeks.
And they probably regretted not putting him on IR last year when he had the ankle injury.
Then he came back and he had a shoulder injury.
So if, and as we know, this happens with players, not just running backs,
when you have a soft tissue injury, you tend to compensate in your other part of your body, other leg.
He could re-injure something else, which could be a problem.
So this could be something that lingers for him.
And if they continue to win games, they're going to be cautious with him
because they want to make a playoff run.
So I think if you're looking at it,
you have to try and see if Hubbard can win you weeks.
And if he can win you weeks, you have to have that on your team.
They've had a really easy schedule.
And really, it's a pretty, just not even fantasy.
They're three and up.
And Dallas, Philadelphia, Minnesota, Giants, Falcons, New England.
There are a lot of winnable games here for them.
And then they finish with Buffalo, Tampa Bay,
at New Orleans, and at Tampa Bay.
So that's kind of a brutal stretch to finish.
All right, so we'll talk more about it on Tuesday on The Waiver Wire.
Meanwhile, DeAndre Hopkins is a game-time decision.
Jamie, if DeAndre Hopkins doesn't play, what's the impact?
I mean, Rondell Moore benefits.
Christian Kirk benefits.
A.J. Green, to whatever degree, benefits.
Slight downgrade for Kyler Murray, but not somebody you're sitting.
I wouldn't go to the streaming guys over Kyler Murray
because they're playing Jacksonville.
So we'll see what happens.
I was expecting to play, though.
You know, at this point, I think he's shown you enough of his body of work
that he can miss practices to go out there.
T. Higgins is going to be listed as doubtful.
Carson Wentz will be a game-time decision.
Odell Beckham will play.
And apparently the Falcons could use a hot-hand approach at running back.
So I'm sure we're all going to say Alexander Madison over a Falcons running
back.
But let's say,
you know,
Rondell Moore or a Falcons running back both with and without the Andre
Hopkins.
Dan,
what would you do in a flex type spot?
Yeah.
I mean,
we talked a lot about this yesterday on the live stream.
Rondell Moore,
somebody who I'm definitely playing now that if,
if Hopkins sits,
I tend to believe Jamie on this one,
I think he's
got this nailed i think out of all the ones we have on these questionables besides maybe dalvin
uh he's the most likely to play so if he's playing it's still more of a stream play to me but if
we're assuming he's out then i'd rather play more cool and now's the time in the show where i promote
something but i don't have any copy today. So Dan, what should I promote?
This is an open-ended question
that could lead me into dirt.
Yeah, yeah, anything.
I don't really, do you want to promote your...
No, you said, you got all,
you know all the editorial content we have,
so tell the people.
Oh, okay, okay.
I thought we were talking about some,
I thought we were talking about an ad read
or something of that.
Let's promote...
Oh no, not a product.
No, something CBS related.
Let's promote Dave's Start, Sits, Sleepers, and Busts
because that is one of the most comprehensive columns we have on the site every week.
He goes game by game, breaks down a sleeper, a bust candidate, a flex play,
and really dives deep.
Also gives you a little betting advice for those of you interested in gambling.
You can get a little advice on the line for the game.
So I would highly suggest checking that out every week.
And props, no pun intended, to Dave
for going with the under on Christian McCaffrey's total yards
on Thursday night.
He nailed that one in the first quarter.
Okay, anyway, let's do some emails. We'll start with some emails today. Then we'll do the fantasy cops. Then we'll one in the first quarter. Anyway, let's do some emails.
We'll start with some emails today, then we'll do the fantasy cops,
then we'll do your Apple podcast questions. FantasyFootball
at CBSi.com. This one is
from JT. Half PPR.
Sterling Shepard is on
waiver. Should I drop Waddle or Jacoby
Myers to get Sterling Shepard?
I would
drop Myers first.
I'm with Jamie. Myers, yes. Waddle, no. Though, if this two-injury lingers. I'm with Jamie.
Myers, yes.
Waddle, no.
Though, if this two-injury lingers, I'm not going to be buying.
Oh, I would drop either one.
You would or wouldn't?
I would.
Tempered is better than both those guys,
but if I'm holding one, I'd rather hold Waddle.
Yeah, Waddle to me is more long-term upside.
This is Brian in a Florida town along the I-4 corridor.
Where's that?
That's Orlando?
Okay.
Dear Romeo, Howard, Jay, and Jordan.
These are Leonardo DiCaprio movie roles,
he tells us.
So Romeo, what is that, Titanic?
No, Romeo and Juliet.
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
Howard,
that's Wolf of Wall
Street?
Or is that Deviator?
I have no idea. I've never seen either one.
Have you ever seen the Wolf of Wall Street?
Wolf of Wall Street is Jordan.
Is Jordan? Okay. No, I've never seen it.
Why?
It's because it's like six hours long.
I don't have time for it.
The Wolf of Wall Street is awesome.
I'm sure they're all good, yeah.
What was the fourth name?
Jay.
Jay.
Leonardo DiCaprio is Jay.
I don't know.
I'll look it up.
Okay.
I have a fantasy analysis pet peeve,
but maybe I just have a question about it.
When analysts use the terms
that manage expectations
or just adjust expectations
in reference to a stud player,
what exactly are fantasy managers supposed to do?
It's not like we have legitimate other options
when we're talking about a top flight player
like starting Lamar Jackson
and not rostering a backup.
So what?
Prepare to lose? Maybe shoot for high upside guys and flex spots to make up for that i'm not suggesting anyone stop saying it i just wish they would dig a little deeper and
turn it into actionable advice thanks for all your hard work keep up the great work
okay so if you said yeah i mean i get Yeah, you're starting him, but manager expectations. I think sometimes we say something similar to that.
What should we tell Leonardo DiCaprio super fan Brian?
I mean, I don't think it's the same as like saying like, oh, if you're, you know, if your manager expectations for your star, you should be playing high upside guys in the flexes.
I think that's dependent on your matchup.
So I'm not going to go in that direction.
As far as what we could say that's different than manager expectations
might just be, I don't know.
I mean, it's hard to say here.
Jamie, do you have anything?
Give me the question again.
Will we be looking up Leo movies?
Basically, forget it. I'm just going to follow up with yeah
look you shouldn't adjust
your lineup because we
don't like super love
one of your star players matchups we say manager
expectations or something just I
guess it's just something that fantasy analysts say
and well I think it comes down to who you
have you know I mean that's always the
the only way you can look at it is you know
so Mike Evans for example we don't love his matchup against the rams right because there's a chance
of jalen ramsey shadowing him or um i don't know i'm trying to think uh another player that has
though it's it gets mostly the receivers right because we don't you know whenever we look at
the running backs like who's got a terrible matchup this week? Daryl Henderson, if he plays.
Yeah, the Rams.
Okay, we'll stay with the same team.
But he's not the best guy.
I was trying to think of somebody that's going to just beat their head
into a tough situation, but you know they're going to get touches.
So go back last week to Joe Mixon.
If you were to say right now Joe Mixon's getting 20-plus touches,
easy start, no way around it.
And then you look at the results, and he had what?
Miserable production against the Bears. But the matchup may be bad, but the workload might still be good. easy start. No way around it. And then you look at the results and he had what? You know, miserable production
against the Bears.
But the matchup may be bad,
but the workload
might still be good.
You know,
so you tell me right now
Mike Evans is getting
10 targets,
I'm taking him.
I don't care if Jalen Ramsey
is covering for all 10
of those targets.
Okay.
I'm going to guess
that Jay is Jay Gatsby
from The Great Gatsby,
another movie
I've never seen.
Did he pick four movies of Leo's
that I never saw? Interesting.
Let's do a grade the tree.
You watch Romeo and Juliet on a loop.
Is it that interesting, though, when you haven't seen
Wolf of Wall Street? It just seems like you just don't watch
movies. If you're going to choose
a Leonardo DiCaprio movie,
Titanic is number one.
He doesn't put Jack on there.
It's his most famous role.
Definitely not your top pick.
No, Catch Me If You Can would be,
and that's also not on there.
Oh, that's an excellent movie.
Thank God you've released it.
What's his top pick?
Titanic, according to Adam.
No, it's his...
Where you start with Leo.
Yes, it is.
It's his most famous role.
Are you kidding?
According to Adam.
Are you kidding?
Check the box office numbers, Jack.
I don't know.
I liked him on Growing Pains.
He was on Growing Pains.
That is true.
All right.
Pete from a town west of Akron.
We'll leave that for Dave.
Grade the trade.
Give up Eckler and Damian Harris.
Get Jonathan Taylor and A.J. Brown.
Half PPR.
Bam.
Easy.
A.
I'm taking it. Yeah. For sure. That's an A. You're buying low on Brown.J. Brown, half PPR. Bam! Easy. A. I'm taking it, yeah.
For sure.
Yeah, it's an A.
You're buying low on Brown.
Yeah.
A, not even an A-.
John from Providence.
12-team PPR Keeper League.
Can keep up to two players next year in the round they were drafted.
I ended my draft with potential high upside young wide receivers
like Amandra St. Brown and Kadarius T Tony. Obviously, they're not doing much now, but how do I balance keeping them
on my roster for a potential draft value steal next year versus dropping them to add other players
as the year goes on? I don't particularly need any specific waiver players right now, but how do I
decide on cutting bait with my keepers and picking up bench depth, handcuffs, or guys like, oh,
Elijah Moore is out there.
Jeez.
Yeah.
You definitely want to get him.
I don't know how,
why you have St.
Brown and Tony instead of more,
but yeah.
Yeah.
Like what if you had Elijah Moore,
you know,
that's a tougher call.
Cause he's not doing much right now,
but it could be better.
Great value next year.
What do you,
Dan,
what do you think?
I think it's a little bit like how you would approach a dynasty league.
It's not exactly the same,
but you have to track your team.
And if you're tracking to potentially win, you're in the running for this year.
That's a little bit different.
Then you could potentially dangle these guys close to your trade deadline to a team that's out of it and try to pick up some players.
So you might keep them just for the value of trading them, I think.
But if you, it's also the flip side.
If you now, if you're the team with McCaffrey and the injury, you've got to drop these guys if it's going to give you somebody
who can play right now in your running back spot.
So you have to kind of just play it based on your team.
But for sure, I don't think you're losing out too much
if you get rid of somebody like Tony or Amon.
I mean, neither of those players to me seem like they have,
at least at this point, great 2020 to appeal.
From our number one.
Absolutely.
So you got Elijah Moore for both those guys.
Oh, for sure.
In fact, drop both
of them just to pick up more.
Drop St. Brown.
From our number one fan
in Paris,
would you start Trey Sermon over Miles Gaskin
or James White if Eli Mitchell
is out?
PPR.
No.
You would not? Okay. No, you would not.
Okay.
No,
I just think that we're still going to get a split to whatever level the split is,
you know,
whether it's Patrick or,
um,
Canon,
or if they bring up carry on Johnson,
I mean,
I don't think they trust Trey sermon yet.
You know,
it's,
it's an easier conversation if it's Mitchell and no sermon,
but if it's sermon and nobody else,
you know,
I I'm hopeful for him,
but I don't know if I'm ready to thrust him in my lineup over those guys.
I think Jamie nailed this one, especially when you consider the fact that Shanahan literally was on record a couple of weeks ago saying like he was beat out. Sermon was beat out due to the
practice habs due to whatever it might be. That doesn't sound like somebody who two weeks later
is trusted for a full workload from Matt in Wisconsin. Do I start Tom Brady or Jalen hurts?
Oh,
it's one point per 10.
Oh,
of course it's one point per 10 rushing yards.
Why did that,
why did he include that?
He threw me off there.
Brady or Jalen hurts.
Uh,
hurts for me.
I'm going to go hurts as well.
I am actually doing exactly that in one league from David,
Aaron Rogers or Daniel Jones?
I'm still going to ask.
This Aaron Rodgers
Daniel Jones question has come up like all week.
I'm telling you. I'm sticking Rodgers.
Yeah, I mean, look,
Heath, and I answered it with a yeah first.
Yeah, Heath would start Jones over
Rodgers, which is interesting.
He loves Daniel Jones.
He always does.
If Hopkins doesn't play,
I wonder if he'd move him ahead of Kyler.
From Chuck,
Dear Newt, Harry, Don, Jim, and Elmer.
Those are Newt Rockne and the Four Horsemen.
I don't even know who that is.
Really?
Notre Dame head coach
and the Four Horsemen were 1920s, I want to say?
Yeah, that's before my time.
It was before all of our times, Dad.
I'm not 100 years old.
I'm not studying Notre Dame football history.
That's sport stories in sport.
Now I feel horrible about this,
but we're just going to have to move on.
Put the focus back on the fact that Adam hasn't seen Wolf of Wall Street, please.
Yeah.
Well, the other thing is I know the ending, so I didn't really.
Well, that's on you.
Screw you, dude.
All right.
Anyway, Alan Robinson or Odell Beckham?
Robinson.
Robinson.
That's on.
Robinson.
All right.
JT in California.
I have to start one of these guys.
So it's probably,
this decision's probably going to be made for him,
but Daryl Henderson, Elijah Mitchell, Leonard Fournette.
If they all play, who's your favorite?
Henderson, Mitchell.
If they all play, Mitchell.
Yeah, Mitchell for me for sure, if they all play.
And then Jacoby Myers, Jalen Waddell, Brandon Ayuk.
I guess Myers with the quarterback situation.
That's the same here.
I'm just not going to trust the –
I'm not going to trust Dolphins quarterback situation right now.
Man, you must have loved your team on draft day.
Brandon Ayuk just became a disaster,
and Myers can't get down the field,
and Waddles loses the quarterback.
Wow.
From Brandon,
am I crazy to start Tyson Williams over Antonio Gibson this week in PPR?
No.
Would you actually do it?
Yeah, I would.
Okay.
Give me start of the week.
Oh, yeah.
Three in PPR from Vic.
Eli Mitchell, we're going to eliminate him.
Jamar Chase, Clyde Edwards-Elair, Kenny Galladay, Cortland Sutton.
So basically you have to sit one of them.
Jamar Chase, Clyde, Galladay, and Sutton.
Easy.
Sit Galladay.
No?
Yeah, you're the Clyde guy.
Oh, you might sit Clyde.
You could consider. I probably would sit Gall guy. Oh, you might say Clyde. Okay. Uh, you could consider,
I probably would say Galladay also, but that's the, that's the choice. It's funny because,
you know, Sutton and Chase, I feel like are must-starts, which is not probably what you
thought of when you drafted. Exactly. Yeah. I guess probably play Clyde. I feel, I do feel
like Clyde's going to have a bounce back game here just because the Chargers have struggled
a little bit against the run. And, um, I'm, I'm always, you know, into the intangibles when
the team comes out and how much they rallied around him
after the poor game in the FOMO.
Yeah.
The only thing that...
Galladay's also hurt, a little hurt, by the way.
He's not even a guarantee to play.
Yeah, he's questionable with a hip.
I always go back to what they said
about Clyde Edwards-Elair on draft night
and, oh, this was the guy Mahomes wanted
and all that.
Brian Westbrook. It just hasnomes wanted. Brian Westbrook.
Just hasn't really materialized.
It doesn't look like Brian Westbrook out there at all, really.
All right, from Jose.
Give up Jamar Chase and Brandon Ayuk.
Get Gronk, Tyson Williams, and Kenny Galladay.
Jamar Chase and Ayuk.
Gronk, Tyson Williams.
I'm not doing that personally.
But if you're desperate need at running back, then maybe.
I'm sorry. Chase and Ayuk for who?
Rob Gronkowski, Tyson Williams, and Kenneth Galladay.
I would do that.
I think it's basically at this point you're just giving up Chase.
Like we don't know what Ayuk is going to become.
Yeah, if you just strip this down,
and you shouldn't because obviously Gronk and
Galladay have value, but just
wondering, who would you rather have rest of the season?
Chase or Tyson Williams?
Chase.
Chase.
If he has another game of doing nothing, he's getting cut
in every league. Chase for
those guys is a pretty good haul. One thing about
Ayuk, maybe from a DFS
standpoint, so beat up at running back
facing the Packers,
they might have to throw the ball a lot.
Maybe IUK breaks out a little bit. Maybe
that's how they adapt. Or maybe Trey
Lance leads the team in rushing or something like that. Yeah, I was going to say, maybe
this is the Trey Lance game.
From John, grade the trade. Give up
Marquise Brown, get Miles.
It's a Sunday night game, so DFS is a little different. Oh, that's true. I'm sorry. Give up Marquise Brown, get Miles. It's a Sunday night game, so DFS is a little different.
Oh, that's true.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Give up Marquise Brown, get Miles Gaskin.
If you're not playing Marquise Brown, then that's a good trade
because you're hoping that Miles Gaskin turned things around.
But I don't think Marquise Brown is going to necessarily fall off tremendously
when Rashad Bateman comes back.
Like, I think he'll still be kind of like a 5 for 75 for 80 type of guy.
Chance to score, you know, probably every three, four weeks.
So he's not going to be terrible.
But, you know, you're hoping that Gaskin turns things around.
So I would make that trade.
Okay.
Steven from St. Louis.
I need an RB2, a wide receiver 2, and a flex PPR.
I'm just going to assume that Mitchell's not playing.
I think it's trending that way.
Daryl Henderson also not playing, probably.
Javante Williams, Jamal Williams, pick one of them.
Javante.
And then pick a wide receiver too.
Chenault, Waddle, or Osborne.
I'm tempted to say Osborne.
I am too.
I really am too.
Just knowing that...
Definitely not Waddle.
It's either Chenault or Osborne,
but I'm going Osborne.
Yeah, I would also.
Amari Cooper said he cracked a rib
in the season opener against the Bucs.
It's getting better every day.
He'll be good to go for Monday.
All right, then we need a flex.
We need Jamal Williams, Chenault, or Waddle.
I guess you go Williams, just with the hope.
He's had the best game of this group so far.
I think I would, too.
I don't feel great about it.
And if Elijah Mitchell or Darrell Henderson play,
you can go with them as flexes.
Daniel
was offered Chris Carson
and Michael Thomas for my Ezekiel
Elliott. I'm 2-0. It's full PPR.
Would you give up Zeke for Carson and Michael Thomas?
No.
Wow.
You know where I stand on these, Adam.
I think I'd do it.
We're banking on Michael Thomas coming back, looking fine,
and that offense somehow starting to generate a passing game
even though the offensive line has looked the worst
it's looked in five years in New Orleans.
Is that what we're banking on?
When Michael Thomas gets back,
they'll have Eric McCoy their center back most likely.
So that will make a big difference.
Yes, that is true.
That's a big, big help.
I really like Chris Carson.
I don't like him as much as Zeke, but... i think you're selling it too low on zeke though like yeah he has another big game against philly which i know
you know the eagles run defense is typically good but they don't they are down now brandon
graham and the cowboys you know have zach martin back so we saw what one game looks like for this
rushing attack with zach martin and it was pretty good. If he has another big game,
you're going to really feel
bad about yourself for giving up
Zeke for
still four weeks away from Michael Thomas
playing. Yeah, I wouldn't do it.
But it's not as...
But you also wouldn't trade Brady for Zeke.
Take it easy. Depends on who my quarterback was.
Take it easy. No, no, I would
trade him for Zeke. I would trade him for Zeke.
That's the thing. People act like
I wouldn't trade Brady for
top 10 running
back. I would. I just don't know that Barkley
is. Or Gibson.
Or Gibson, yeah.
Again,
a year ago, hey, would you trade Aaron
Rodgers for Josh Jacobs? Oh, hell yeah.
It would have been a terrible trade.
Not necessarily.
Yes, necessarily.
No.
Not if you have Jalen Hurts on your bench.
Yes, it's a bad trade.
What if your backup quarterback last year was...
That was the whole point.
That was the whole point of my argument.
I would trade Brady for Barkley
if I had another quarterback.
You never said that.
I did say that.
No, you didn't. Well, I said I would trade him for Herbert and Bark I had another quarterback. You never said that. I did say that. No, you didn't.
Well, I said I would trade him for Herbert and Barkley.
Yes, I did say that.
Maybe I didn't say it when you were on the air,
but that's what I was saying.
I just will not leave myself without a great quarterback.
That was the point.
Okay, you know what?
Call the cops.
Fantasy cops time.
Here we go.
Send your emails to fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
Put fantasy cops in the subject line.
Hello, some combination of Adam, Ben,
Jamie, Heath, Dave, or Chris.
Wow, no Dan in there. Wow.
You could have just lied and made it up.
That's just bad hosting.
I wouldn't lie. I'm an honest guy.
Make me feel good.
Tim from a city south of the Canadian border
of Coral Springs,
Florida, is the commissioner of an Empire League,
which is different than a Dynasty League.
I learned about this today.
Yeah, half the pot goes into the next year, right?
Yes, and if a manager wins twice in a row,
you redraft.
Ooh, that's interesting.
You don't have a dynasty.
It just keeps on winning.
That's interesting. Well, at least in their league, that's what they do. Anyway have a dynasty that just keeps on winning. That's interesting.
Well, at least in their league, that's what they do.
Anyway, I'm the commissioner of an Empire League,
and after our rookie draft, I made the announcement
that there was unofficially no trading with the sitting champion
because if he wins a consecutive title, the league resets.
Well, of course, today someone in our league made a trade
with the sitting champion, and I'm not sure what to do about it
because of the wording I used after the draft.
I feel like some punishment is in order, even if it's minor,
such as no trading for the rest of the season.
Also, shouldn't the champion be punished, too?
He also blatantly disregarded the rule.
Can I offer to punish yourself as the commissioner
for trying to implement a rule like this in the first place
and then having vague terming and not putting this on paper anywhere and then trying to get
on the people for making this trade like what's happening i agree and i think the incentive when
you put half the pot toward the next year is if somebody does win it twice they get the full pot
i think right um so that's why you know that's why you'd want to win the league again
and reset the league.
But yeah, right?
I mean, Commissioner,
you're arrested.
Back of the car.
All right.
Dirk from just down the road.
I have been targeted by a rule change.
I told my commissioner,
a podcast listener,
that I would be filing a complaint
with the fantasy cops.
He responded, bring it on and that I would be filing a complaint with the fantasy cops. He responded,
bring it on, and that you would all side with him, so help us
settle this. The complaints
charge that I make too many
moves during the season.
For reference, last season, I
made the most moves in the league at 61.
I often stream DSTs,
tight ends, and quarterbacks so I can spend
draft capital elsewhere.
It's a handicapped my stream dream.
The new rule limits moves to four per week.
I complained that this was unfair and limits stream options, but the rule stood.
I think the real issue is I beat most of the league to all the hot pickups.
I listen to the podcast, follow analysts on Twitter, browse message boards during the season.
I am tuned in and ready to play, and the complainers
in my league are not. So what say
you, Fantasy Cops? Am I a victim
of an unfair rule, or should I be kicked
out of the league?
Were they kicking him out? No, I don't
think so. I think that's just a Fantasy Cops
reference.
Yeah, you're a victim of the rule the rule stinks it does stink absolutely but but i
mean if you're gonna change something to to prevent moves just don't do first come first serve right
have it waivers every day right or fab yeah yeah but you know it a rule, so what's he supposed to do?
But was this rule created before the season?
Yeah.
If it's in season, then I'm siding with our guy here.
I mean, I want to side with everybody here.
They're both podcast listeners, so.
No, the rule stinks.
The rule does stink, but it is a rule.
I mean, there are some bad laws in New York.
Well, then you have to deal with the rules for the season,
so that's what it is.
But you could still bitch and moan about it.. But you could still bitch and moan about it.
Oh, you can absolutely bitch and moan about it.
That's your God-given right.
All right, one more.
From Steve.
Hey, Grace, Charlie, and Machine Gun.
I guess those are Kelly's?
Yeah.
I'm in an eight-team half PPR league that is on our 12th season together.
Yesterday, I traded Najee Harris,
George Kittle, and Brandon Cooks.
Harris, Kittle, and Cooks
for Mixon, Waller, and James White.
One of the other managers is making a huge fuss,
says it's shady.
Honestly, it's not a shady trade.
It's fine.
I already read this email.
It's fine.
This is the only thing I care about in this email.
It's a great trade.
The guy who's fussing is a baby.
Yeah. What is it? I am about in this email. It's a great trait. The guy who's fussing is a baby. Yeah.
I am about to be a new father.
Do you have any new dad tips?
They'd be greatly appreciated.
All right, Jamie.
Let's give this guy some new dad tips.
About to be a father?
Yeah.
So the baby's not been born yet?
Correct.
Get ready for the first poops.
That's the easiest part.
That was, I was so nervous about that.
I didn't even know how to change a diaper when my baby was born.
No, it's the tar poops.
Those are the worst.
The tar poops, they're fine.
They're nothing.
Yeah, okay.
Let's see.
When your baby gets old, this is a big one.
I've been giving this advice out a lot to people lately.
When your baby, when your kid is older, a toddler, come up with games that you can play with your kid that involve
you laying down.
Cause that is the only time you'll be able to relax.
So I am exhausted.
I laid down.
You're so lazy.
I laid down on the bed.
I say,
okay,
everybody pile on daddy.
And Andrew piles on and just gets like,
he just,
you know,
hits me and whatever.
He has fun.
I get to just lay down and relax.
So that's one thing.
Anything for you, Jamie?
You've got more kids than me.
Make sure your partner is happy and rested.
Oh, yeah. That is probably going to be the easiest way to make your life better.
So spouse, girlfriend, boyfriend, whatever the case may be, husband,
make sure your significant other is taken care of so both
of you guys get an opportunity to rest and have
some... Alone time
matters. Alone time matters. Give yourself
a few minutes of alone time.
Get ready to eat in shifts.
You're never going to eat with your partner again.
You said eat in what? Shifts.
Okay, just checking.
You should practice eating standing up now. That is all Shifts. Okay. Just checking. And yeah,
again,
oh,
and you should practice eating standing up now.
That is all I do is eat standing up.
Cause you know,
you're just,
you're cutting food and stuff like that.
It's really great.
I'm actually sit down is when I'm doing shows.
Yeah.
Or,
or what did I do?
The other thing that you thought I said when I said shifts.
So we're going to take a break here.
You still sit when you pee.
We're going to take a break here. When we come when you pee. We're going to take a break here.
When we come back.
You're out.
Shut up.
You're out of the podcast.
No, shut up.
That's not true.
Anybody that listens to our show for a long time knows that Adam does not pee standing up.
Oh, my God.
Anybody just.
Oh, no.
False.
You're taking lazy to a whole new level.
All right. We're taking a break a whole new level. All right.
We're taking a break.
I'm going to regroup here.
Go stand up and pee.
I'm out.
Fantasy football today.
We'll be right back.
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Welcome back. Time for your Apple Podcast questions.
From RJ Gilbert.
Dear Otto, Nelson, Carl,
and Lenny.
Oh, Jamie did have to go. I forgot
about that. He genuinely had to leave.
Do you know these?
I think he's just offended by the fact that you sit when you bake.
I don't sit. Stop.
Otto, Nelson, Carl, and Lenny.
Do you know who they are?
I'll give you a hint.
Lenny Dykstra?
I'll give you a hint.
Do you think I could see that from here?
It's the Simpsons.
It's obviously the Simpsons.
There's a ring light there.
There's no way I can see that.
It's a Simpsons poster behind me.
Come on.
Oh, I'm not a Simpsons guy.
Find it overrated. Not good. Yeah, sorry. It's a Simpsons poster behind me. Come on. Oh, I'm not a Simpsons guy. Find it overrated.
Not good.
Yeah, sorry.
And you, and you Wolf of Wall Street-ed me.
Yeah, you know what, though?
You were like, oh, Simpsons is so, Rick and Morty sucks.
Simpsons is so much better.
No, I didn't say that.
You said that on Twitter a few months ago.
You did say that.
No, I didn't say Rick and Morty sucks.
I don't think.
You didn't say that.
Yeah.
But you said it was overrated.
Oh, it.
I don't know that it's overrated.
It's just not the Simpsons.
All right, anyway,
trade Cooper Cup...
That's better.
You are ridiculous.
Trade Cooper Cup,
Pittman,
and Jalen Hurts
for Kyler Murray.
It's a 10-team dynasty league,
and it's super flex.
Holy cow.
No, this is...
Back this up.
Say the names again,
because now that I'm thinking
in the super flex dynasty...
Yeah, yeah.
I think I don't like it.
Cooper Cup, Michael Pittman, and Jalen Hurts for Kyler Murray.
Oh, I want Murray in that for sure.
For sure.
I think it's a slam dunk deal in a dynasty.
Slam dunk deal.
Slam dunk.
Cooper Cup, who is he the number one receiver in fantasy right now?
29 years old, Cooper Cup.
29 years old, Cooper Cup, yes.
You're still playing this year, you know.
Okay, I mean, if you're competing for the championship this year,
maybe not, but even so, I'm still doing it.
Dynasty is especially super flexed.
The value of these long-term quarterback teams.
You're giving away Jalen Hurts?
If you believe in Hurts, that he's going to be there long-term.
I do not.
And I know some people have liked what they've seen from him.
The offense didn't really move the ball last week.
Sort of moved the ball in week one
against a bad Atlanta defense. I don't buy it.
I think they're trading for Watson.
From Levisca Pisca.
Grade the trade. Robert
Woods for Devin Singletary.
Oh, gosh, no.
No, give me Woods.
That's an F.
From Newmanster.
I have no offense. I. That's an F. From Newmanster.
I have no offense.
I picked up Gronk.
I lost Gus Edwards,
and my other running backs are Clyde Edwards-Ziller and Saquon Barkley.
Yikes.
Do I trade Clyde and Gronk for David Montgomery?
Hell no.
What?
No?
All right.
Well, I'm just going to have to sit out all the Clyde questions
because I think he's going to bounce back,
and I'm just standing by it.
I think it's a fine trade.
I think Montgomery's better than Clyde,
and I'd probably rather keep Gronk than Fant.
Rest of season, Clyde versus Montgomery.
Little side fun for a gentleman's bet.
A hundred percent.
Yeah, I'll take it.
You want in on it?
Oh, yeah.
I don't know who else you'd be making it with,
so somebody needs to be in on it, right?
From Chirp the Bird,
the bi-week player to opponent trade mentioned
on the last episode was interesting.
So for those of you who missed that,
make a trade with someone in your league.
Trade him players that will be on a buy
when you face him or her.
Okay?
It's a very clever thing.
Listener came up with it, not my idea.
I have Lockett and Metcalf week nine buy,
and I need running back help.
My week nine opponent has Derek Henry, David Montgomery,
and Clyde Edwards-Elair.
Should I trade Metcalf for Montgomery PPR?
I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that. He's clever, but let's not let it like overrule the more important thing, which is having these guys for the rest of the season.
Yeah. I was thinking, you know, take two players that you had back to back in your rankings. Maybe
it was everybody had some order of Metcalf, Jefferson, AJ Brown. I think they all have
pretty similar trade value right now.
Jefferson probably won.
If you could work it out, so you trade Metcalf for A.J. Brown,
and you just so happen to be playing the current A.J. Brown,
soon-to-be Metcalf manager on Metcalf's bye week, that kind of thing.
But I don't think Montgomery and Metcalf
in full PPRs is good enough, personally.
But it's not that far off, right?
All right, Dave from a federal district.
Dear Bruce, Peter, and Clark.
Oh, that's easy.
That's Rick and Morty.
14-team PPR league.
Pick two.
Darnell Mooney, Tyler Boyd, and Rondell Moore.
Moore if Hopkins sits.
And honestly, I'm going to go Boyd here with Higgins out.
I know it's weird, but I like it.
Bruce, Peter, and Clark has to be superheroes.
Hulk, Spider-Man, Superman.
Sure. You don't know anything about superheroes? No, I-Man, Superman. Sure.
You don't know anything about superheroes? No, I know I know superheroes. I do
know superhero stuff. Okay.
This one is from
GHFHYR. I don't even know.
Recently, a trade
from the number one team was proposed. It was Gronkowski
for Swift. The next day,
it was vetoed. I was very surprised
because the team getting Gronk really needed a tight end.
They were starting Mike Kosicki. I guess
the commissioner felt the same way because he looked at the
trade rules and it was on the default Yahoo
trade veto, which meant only four
teams needed to veto the trade
for it to not go through.
He changed the rule to six,
how it was supposed to be, and how
it was for many years. And he put
the trade back up and he said,
if six people veto it, then the trade would not go through.
This started a big controversy and many managers are upset
because they think the trade is not fair.
I just wanted to hear your thoughts,
what your thoughts are and what you might do.
Personally, I think the trade is fair
and the commissioner did the right thing.
And the trade again was Gronk for DeAndre Swift.
Yeah, I mean, I think the commissioner did the right thing. And the trade again was Gronk for DeAndre Swift. Yeah.
I mean,
I think the commissioner did the right thing in this spot.
In my mind,
the real right thing is no vetoes ever,
unless there's collusion should never be vetoed.
This is for sure.
Not a trade that should be vetoed.
We don't even,
I mean,
Williams is at a huge share of the,
of the,
of lines backfield so far.
Swift has had injuries in the past,
had an injury in the preseason.
If you're desperate at tight end, it's not horrible to think that Gronk can be top 10 rest of the way. No way should
this be vetoed. And the commissioner did nothing wrong anyway, because he just went back to what
the rule was supposed to be in the first place. Yeah, we fully support this commissioner endeavor.
From Kellen Usofly, 12 team non-PPR, non-decimal scoring, yada yada. Give up
DK Metcalf, Tyler Boyd,
and Naheem Hines.
Get Deontay Johnson, Debo
Samuel, and Chase Edmonds.
Give me those names again, Adam.
Yeah, you give up Metcalf, Boyd,
and Hines.
You get back Deontay Johnson, Debo Samuel,
and Chase Edmonds.
It's a non-PPR league, which is important
here, especially for Tyler Boyd and Chase Edmonds. I mean, this is one of the rare times, Adam,
where you'll hear me say that, you know what? I kind of do like the side of the deal that doesn't
get the best player. The best player, theoretically, is Metcalf and that side of the deal. But you're
getting a lot of value from that other side, and I really feel like Edmonds can be a solid RB2 for
you all season long. Not a great one, but a solid one, especially given the state of the position. And so you're
getting him plus two quality receivers. I think you can start every week. I take that side of the
deal from Allen in Massachusetts. I have Waller and Hawkinson on my 10 team standard scoring league.
I'm getting trade offers for Hawk every day. The best one I've gotten so far is Hawkinson for Chris Godwin and CEH
deal or no deal
deal
accept this now
stop listening
from cool $2
dear Warren Marcus Steve
Vince and Ryan
Moon
Mariota.
Oh, these are probably Titans quarterbacks.
Mariota.
McNair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Vince Young.
Okay.
I'm 0-2 and I need to boost right now.
I trade away Antonio Gibson and Marvin Jones for Chris Godwin and Mike Davis.
What do you think?
Gibson and Marvin Jones for Godwin and Mike Davis.
I'm fine with it.
I don't love it.
I wouldn't do it.
I'd rather hold Gibson,
because I don't think highly of Mike Davis
the rest of the way,
but I'm fine with it.
Godwin should be consistent.
Here's Jack Brace.
14-team PPR league, two receivers.
I have Gaskin.
I was thinking on cashing in on Tyler.
Okay, so actually, let me step back.
I remember the subject line of this.
It was something about trading for depth.
I have, he needs a running back.
Thinking of trading in Tyler Lockett
for Damian Harris and Sterling Shepard.
You guys did talk the crap out of Sterling Shepard on Tuesday show.
So surely it can't be too stupid to give up Tyler Lockett in a 14 team league.
Running backs are gold.
And I don't know how much else I can get,
uh,
how else I can get a replacement.
Should I do the trade?
And that would be Lockett for Damian Harris and Sterling Shepard in a PPR
league.
I want to say no,
because I think that at this stage of it,
you can get a lot more for lock it right now.
I mean,
if you look across the board,
a lot of people have lock it ranked top 10 rest of the way.
You can use that and leverage and trade talks.
I want to think that you can get a better running back in return than
Harris for lock it right now,
but that's impossible to know without looking at your league.
And the point that he made is great. In a 14-team
league, running backs are really tough to get.
I would hold out. I would try
to even see if there's any other team with
more running back depth that you can scoop one from.
Lockett's value is too high right now.
I don't know how you
listened to the Tuesday show
and got...
I shouldn't say that.
You can give up Tyler Lockett, get Sterling Sh't say that, and got that you can give up Tyler Lockett,
get Sterling Shepard back,
and a decent PPR running back in Damian Harris,
and feel good about it.
I mean, yeah, we were excited about Shepard
from a waiver wire standpoint,
but just look at his track record.
He's not Tyler Lockett.
He doesn't really catch touchdowns.
The one touchdown he caught this year against Denver was a really nice
yards after catch play. Those are kind of
fluky, although he is getting a lot of red zone targets.
I would not
do this trade. I still think
you still need great players to win.
You need depth, sure, but
if you have a bunch of okay
players, that's not going to get it done.
You need great players in a 14-team league.
You need great players and you need them to stay healthy. That You need great players in a 14-team league. You need great players and you need them to stay healthy.
That's how you win in a 14-team league.
Travis in Omaha. Standard scoring.
It's like I wrote the book on
14-team leagues now. What am I talking about?
Travis in Omaha.
Standard scoring league. I gave up Barkley and
Eli Mitchell for Camara.
Fine.
B+.
Yeah. I don't know b for me or like c plus i just think it's an even deal
from tyler melvin gordon devin singletary james white jamal williams i don't know how many he
needs give me your two favorites melvin gordon this week yeah singletary james white jamal
williams ppr or non-ppr I don't know okay well I'm just gonna
go Singletary and and uh and White wake up 23 pretty sure Dave is a ninja um oh he said hey
Chuck Steven Jet and Dave so he thinks Dave is a ninja like like Chuck Norris, Jet Li, and Steven Seagal.
Okay.
2QB League.
This is such a crazy...
It's not like there's a character limit here,
Wake Up.
I have Josh and Tom
as my starting quarterbacks.
You can't give the full name?
Or their last name?
I'm trading Ryan T.
and C. Kirk
for Allen Robinson.
He already has Josh Allen and Tom Brady,
so he's giving up Tannehill and Kirk for Allen Robinson.
Also, team name Tuesday, Silence of the Lamb.
Not bad.
This is two QB, Adam?
Yeah.
Without a third QB, I'm not doing this deal.
If there's another QB in his roster
or if the waiver has QBs
in this specific league
which from all the 10 team 2 QB leagues
I've played in
that is not the case
I'm not doing it.
I'm a strong believer
in you need 3 quarterbacks
in a 2 quarterback league.
Elias from Tucson, Arizona
Trade Najee Harris
Receive AJ Brown
12 team PPR
I mean like
depends on your running back situation.
Can you afford to get rid of Najee Harris right now,
someone who's guaranteed touches week after week?
Do you have anyone to play at running back if you trade him?
It's all dependent on that for me.
And then we just give it an even C.
Yeah.
Oh, the deal's already done.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I don't know why I didn't think that.
I don't know if it is, but we give him a trade.
We give him a grade anyway.
You know, it's like pretend you're an NFL draft prospect.
You get your draft grade, and then you decide to go back to college. That grade anyway. You know, it's like pretend you're an NFL draft prospect. You get your draft grade and then you decide
to go back to college. That's fair.
Alright, from Foxwalk.
He didn't give us a four-star review.
A five-star review. I think he gave us four stars. He said,
How is talking about Believe It or Not
and ignoring all the other
fantasy players in each game a recap?
Yeah, so listen, if we talk about every
fantasy player,
we're going to have a two-hour show.
So we do have to make some exceptions when we go through the games on Sunday nights.
Believe it or not, it's fun.
You know, you get Heath, believe it or not,
and then sometimes he has one prepared,
and then sometimes he's just like,
Mike Williams is the top 40 wide receiver.
Yeah, it's fun. We have fun with it.
But I appreciate the question.
I'm always happy to explain the way we do things here. Just, you know, it's fine. We have fun with it. But I appreciate the question. I'm always happy to explain
the way we do things here.
Just, you know,
it's already an hour and 15 minutes
most nights
and just gets kind of long.
We can't cover everything.
Maybe think about going back
into that review
and updating that to five stars,
by the way.
Sure.
Why not?
Good advice, Dan.
All right.
Yeah, so
I was kind of annoyed with you
with the whole Leonardo DiCaprio thing.
I think you're way off base with that.
But otherwise, it was a great show.
I'm surprised you're going on that,
not the Simpsons take.
That one was even rougher for you.
You know, what episodes have you seen?
I've just seen early Simpsons.
It's the same thing with,
what's the other show written by that guy, the Futurama. It's just not my humor. It never has appealed to me. I know I
watch a whole episode. I'm not laughing at all. I'm just kind of watching and I'm like, all right,
it was there. It was okay. It's not that funny though. I suppose if you're, how old are you?
16? I'm 32 now. I suppose if you didn't grow up
watching the Simpsons you go back
and you just it might not love it
I suppose but I think
season 3 through 7 is the sweet
spot that's the sweet spot maybe I'll give it a go
extend through season 8 is it streaming on anything
yeah Disney Plus
they bought it so
yeah they got everything right
alright thanks for listening thanks for watching
everybody enjoy your weekend let's go get a win let's get to three and oh two and one whatever
it might be and if uh if not blame day see you later