Fantasy Football Today - Big News! Nick Chubb and Anthony Richardson Plus Fill in the Blank and Dynasty Talk (06/09 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

Are we moving Joe Mixon down with the Texans set to sign Nick Chubb (4:00)? We spend a lot of time on that news item including the possibility that Chubb is just better than Mixon in 2025. How low is ...Mixon's floor now? ... More news items including more thoughts on Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers (20:30), what Anthony Richardson's shoulder injury (24:35) means for the Colts passing game and some veterans who might have sneaky Fantasy value (32:00). And we do some Fill in the Blank (37:35) on Christian McCaffrey, J.K. Dobbins, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, Ashton Jeanty, the best pick in the middle of Round 2 and more ... Dynasty talk (45:30)! Our dynasty league is finishing up its rookie draft and we'll discuss some of the results and a few trades that were made during the draft ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow FFT Express on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FFT newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fan To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The first season of Georgie and Mandy is a bona fide hit. Be cool, okay? We don't say it out loud. Hmm, okay. Can we just say it's great? Thank you for saying that, Elway. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows? I only told Mandy.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Well, I only told Mom and Dad. That's everybody. So, quick summary. Laugh at Georgie and Mandy's first marriage with all episodes now streaming on Paramount Plus and returning new CBS fall. Yes, yes, also yes. This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports.
Starting point is 00:00:33 What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. The last time Nick Chubb played a full season, he was a top six running back overall, top eight per game in all formats. He had a huge year. That was 2022, 22, 302 carries, 27 catches,
Starting point is 00:01:05 rushed for over 1,500 yards. And of course he averaged five yards per carry because he always averages five yards per carrier better except the last time we saw him on the field. But now it looks like he's got a new team. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Anthony Richardson's shoulder. We'll talk about one of the most fun things
Starting point is 00:01:19 you can do in fantasy. And that would be a rookie dynasty draft. It is super fun, rookie only dynasty draft. Lot of trades, a lot of sweating it out to hoping to get your guy. And we've got the big burger dynasty league going on right now. The draft wrapping up the four round rookie draft.
Starting point is 00:01:36 So we'll update you on some of the things that we had a couple of trades we want to tell you about. That's later in this show. Welcome everybody. It is Monday, June 9th. We've got four episodes for you this week and news to catch up on today. Plus fill in the blank. All right, Jamie Heath, zero to 10 on the week. No, you know what? I don't care about the week. Anometer zero to 10 on. How do you think Thursday show went without me?
Starting point is 00:01:59 Hey, plus, uh, I'd say 12 because it was a little long, but it was perfect. But besides that, it was a little long, wasn't it? Yeah. Uh, it actually went under what I projected. So I've, you know what I've never heard though? And I don't read all the emails that you do. I know that every email that gets sent to fantasy football at CBS side.com you read and respond to. And so you guys should send Adam some more emails. But I've never seen somebody who listens to us say, man, that episode was just too long. I agree.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Which is why I don't sweat it too much. But I don't think we want to get too long either. I think like there's a, we should be able to fit our content into a certain window, I think. We have to make sure we do a better job of being succinct. Let me talk about that for a few minutes here, Heath. By the way, Heath is lying. I don't read every email.
Starting point is 00:02:56 This time of year, I read most of them, but I don't respond. Can I read you two YouTube comments from the show Thursday? Oh, sure. All right. This is the way that I think people feel about us in a nutshell. First one, and I'm not gonna read the whole thing, but this has been the best show from start to finish. I've heard in my three years of listening to you all. And the next one, right
Starting point is 00:03:14 after that, I didn't know I would miss Adam this much. Well, there we go. All right, let's get to the show here. The Texans are set to sign Nick Chubb to a one year deal if he passes his physical. So two years ago, Chubb tore the ACL, MCL, and meniscus and medial capsule in his knee. That was week two of 2023. Last year he came back, he struggled in eight games.
Starting point is 00:03:39 He had 102 carries, averaged 3.3 yards per carry, had a long of 19 yards. This was arguably the best running back in football during his career. And then he was a shell of himself last year, and then he broke his foot. So Joe Mixon, a consistent round three pick in our drafts. Heath, if they do go ahead and sign Nick Chubb,
Starting point is 00:03:58 if it becomes official, what does this mean for the Texans backfield? I don't really think I'm going to move Joe Mixon. Round three, I think was already factoring in a little bit of risk. We talked about these guys last week on FFT express. These guys who have been top 10 running backs relatively consistently recently, but they've reached the age where we start to have concerns and we don't want to draft them as top 10 running backs. And I put Alvin Camara in that list. I'd put James Connors just a little bit below, but kind of in that same group,
Starting point is 00:04:34 maybe even Aaron Jones. Mixon's still at the top of that group for me. He's RB 16 for me, pick 30 right in the middle of round three. That's, that's where I'm good with him. The bigger impact to me was I was still in like round 10 or later drafting Nick Chubb with the hope that he landed it in a better spot like Dallas or Chicago or maybe even Denver. It sounds like they're looking for somebody, but I don't, uh, my job's just a, a dart through as a hope. And he's there's a decent chance if he takes over for mixing at some point, he's not good. Jamie, what are your thoughts on it?
Starting point is 00:05:12 Let me just say that I want to say B John Robinson had about two thirds of the running back carries last year when Joe Mixon was healthy. So I removed week eight and week 18 week, sorry, week two and week 18 week two he left about halfway through week 18. He barely played when he was healthy. He had about 87% of the Texans running back carries. I haven't. I haven't looked at every running back or anything. But I would guess that is right up there near the top if not number one, maybe like Kyron. But I mean, he just has like almost every carry.
Starting point is 00:05:47 So what do you think about the signing here of Nick Chubb probably ending up on Houston? Well, even with the games that he left, he was seventh in total touches among all players last year. So, you know, all non-quarterbacks. So he averaged 20.1 touches per game, you know, so that number is gonna go down to whatever extent is going to be how good Nick Chubb is. I think the thing that this does is it improves the value for Joe Mixon because he still should be the best running back for the Texans.
Starting point is 00:06:17 It kills, I think, any potential of Nick Chubb to Heath's point of being somebody that may be relevant without an injury. But it just is another situation of like, and it may change up people drafts a little bit because I think as we've seen, right, at least one of my big takeaways for the early drafts that we've done, like I want to get two receivers early, you know, if I can, my first two picks, potentially two in my first three picks. But now when you get to that group of running backs, there's going to be a few guys that are going to be superstars and finish in the top 10. And that group is still mixing in Camara and I think Ken Walker is in this group based on ADP.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Connor, there will be the rookies drafted, not named Gentie in this range also. But it's muddy now, especially if Dobbins does go to Denver and takes away the, the feature potential of what RJ Harvey could be still maybe the best guy there, but you know, don't know how that'll play out. So I hope it just sort of pushes that group down a little bit and you get them for at this kind of price, I think we'll see that with Camaro, you know, with the, uh, the offense in New Orleans being, you know, potentially terrible, but Breece Hall in a three headed situation, you know, could be ugly. Chuba Hubber now has more,
Starting point is 00:07:31 more competition for targets. Um, we'll see if Aaron Jones is still in this range also, but, you know, now has a little tougher competition potentially. So it's, uh, you know, we talk a lot about this wide receiver group, 20 to 40, you know, this running back group, I think like 15 to 30, maybe, you know, could, could be a little messy as well. I had to continue my, uh, personal Deandre Swift streak. So inspired by Adams, Tyree kill street. Um, I could, I think the, the guy I have right behind Mixon and the projections right now is Swift and I'm not ranking him as high as I have him projected, but they're both like mid RB
Starting point is 00:08:11 twos and I'll be, I'm going to be really interested if Chubb does sign with Houston and Dobbins signs with Denver. Do we finally see DeAndre Swift at least crack the top 24 running backs in consensus rankings in ADP. Cause every source I looked at this morning, he's somewhere between RB 25, 26, 29, 32 on one site. And I think that there's been baked in this summer, this, the fear of Nick Chubb who visited the Bears or JK Dobbins coming in and playing that Jamal Williams or Dave Montgomery role and Swift's touches being limited. Now it's worth saying that even when that happened, he was a good RB2 when
Starting point is 00:08:47 he was in Detroit on a per game basis. But I would expect that he's going to be a riser if Dobbins also signs anywhere but Chicago. It's hard not to, you know, and like even, you know, for me personally, like, you know, I get a little scared about these older running backs as I'm sure everybody That's listen to us for a few years is aware of like why would you not take James Connor over Joe Mixon right now? Well, so Mixon I think okay Joe Mixon has been a top 12 running back per game in six of the last seven seasons
Starting point is 00:09:21 He had a late season slump last year where he had some very tough matchups. And I looked at he had four games down the stretch, four of his last five games, not including week 18 where Mixon had 14 or fewer carries. I went back, I looked at the box scores. The Texans did not have the ball for more than 26 and a half minutes in any of those games. So he just had he finished so strong, so so poorly. Before that, his first seven healthy games, Joe Mixon averaged more than 24 fantasy points per game. He was awesome. He was not just awesome. He was probably the number one running back in fantasy, you know, until that late season stretch on a per game basis. Now, I didn't include week two in there when he left with an injury,
Starting point is 00:10:02 but he was so good and he looked revived. And then at the, and then he slumps at the end of the year. And wouldn't you know, at the end of the year, he averages 4.1 yards per carry, which is basically what he does every year. He's been above that one time in eight seasons in his career. But he was so good. It was every single running back carry basically going to him 86, 87%, whatever I said it was every single running back carry basically going to him, 86, 87%, whatever I said it was.
Starting point is 00:10:26 So, yeah, I just think that he has upside that Connor doesn't. But they are similar. I mean, Connor, so much more efficient. But- And less competition? And they get a total, they get a ton. Yeah, no, I get it. Because, you know what?
Starting point is 00:10:41 I bet I could come up with a Connor stat that's pretty similar to Mixon who's finished top 12 per game in six of the last seven years. I think the difference is James Connor so frequently misses games or leaves games early. He leaves games early and it hurts him at the end of the year in terms of per game, but he probably is pretty similar to what Joe Mixon has done. It's an interesting point. Again, you know, draft strategy, like to me me here, RB makes so much sense. Like you get one of these guys that top 10 and then you hope to just sort of get two guys that can sort of be your RB too. I know, but listen, but like Alvin Camara averaged 19 PPR points per game last year. Joe was a league winner where you got him. Yeah. Joe Mixon averaged exactly 19 points per game last year. Joe was the league winner where you got him. Yeah, Joe Mixon
Starting point is 00:11:25 averaged exactly 19 points per game. If you removed weeks two and 18 week two, we left with an injury week 18. They barely played their starters. Who at wide receiver in late round three, early round four is good? Do you think has the potential to give you 19 points per game? That would be my argument against going hero or B unless you're considering Mixon or Kamara your hero in round three or four. I don't think we are. That's not exactly the strategy, but I guess it could be.
Starting point is 00:11:55 But what I'm saying is I feel like those guys are better than the wide receivers going in that range. I guess it depends on what you're thinking the upside of those receivers can be. So if you're talking about You know the guys in that range are gonna be probably like Rashi Rice McLaurin Yeah, Garrett Wilson Tyree kill I
Starting point is 00:12:20 Don't know where he's gonna be Adams like yeah, I Guess the argument is the same right? Well, I think you could definitely make the case that Rid Rice has that upside and he showed it last year very briefly. I don't think you're talking about like, you know, in the case of Tyree Kill and Devante Adams, you know, you two guys are probably on different sides of the argument. You know, Adam would say, right, Hill can get there again. I don't think Hill is going to last that long personally. But yes, I would absolutely say Tyree Kill can get there again. And Heath, I would absolutely say Ty Rico can get there again. And Heath, I'm sure you would say Adams get there. And I feel
Starting point is 00:12:47 the same about both of them that they could, you know, so it's just a matter, I guess, of how you like your roster bill to be and what your you know, risk reward is on these older running backs that yes, they were great last year, you know, but now there's another year and you're talking about in the case of both the guys that you mentioned, mix and miss time due to injury. It was a hamstring or ankle, right? I don't remember. And Camara missed three games at the end of the season with a groin injury, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:14 and now you're talking about the case of Camara, his offense and his environment could be terrible, absolutely terrible. And for Mixon, if Nick Chubb is anything close to being healthy, forget about where he is as a player at this point, healthy, he's gonna take touches away. Yeah. Yeah, so actually I wanna play a little devil's advocate here, because it doesn't seem like you guys are moving mixing down much, if at all.
Starting point is 00:13:36 So I wanna play devil's advocate. After this commercial break, we'll be right back. It's a little bit of an unusual show for us, we don't have like a primary topic, but it is a newsie show to catch up on everything, including the Colts quarterback situation, and why I spent, you know, time this morning researching Daniel Jones and Sterling Shepherd. Okay, we'll be right back after this
Starting point is 00:13:54 to finish up our Nick Chubb discussion on FFT. The first season of Georgie and Mandy is a bona fide hit. Be cool. Okay, we don't say it out loud. Hmm, okay. Can we just say it's great? Thank you for saying that, L.A. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows? I only told Mandy.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Well, I only told mom and dad. That's everybody. So, quick summary. Laugh at Georgie and Mandy's first marriage with all episodes now streaming on Paramount Plus and returning new CBS fall. Yes, yes, also yes. All right, here's my devil's advocate about not being too,
Starting point is 00:14:30 is it fair to say, I know like we're not really moving, I know he'd said that not really moving Mixon down. Jamie, you're the same? I'm gonna move him down. Yeah, he was borderline RB1 for me, you know, and I just can't, I still think their potential is there. I just can't draft them that spot. No. Okay. Here's my here's my this could be really bad scenario.
Starting point is 00:14:50 They're basically the same age. Nick Chubb is about a half a year older. Last year, he was coming back from an extremely serious injury, not just a torn ACL, but like I said, ACL, MCL, meniscus and medial capsule. And he struggled, torn ACL, but like I said, ACL, MCL, meniscus, and medial capsule. And he struggled, he struggled, but he's now another year, he's basically gonna be two years removed from that horrible injury. Did he have surgery on the foot?
Starting point is 00:15:16 I couldn't find that out. If he broke his foot, I don't know if he needed surgery this off season. But yeah, I mean, if he recovers from the foot injury, he's not gonna be two years removed from that horrible knee injury. He has been so much better than Joe Mixon. Like I said, Joe Mixon, one year of his career
Starting point is 00:15:31 averaging more than 4.1 yards per carry. You know, that's my concern here is that if Nick Chubb is healthy, he's the same age as Joe Mixon, we know healthy Nick Chubb is much better than healthy Joe Mixon. So that's my devil's advocate. I mean, look, there's, there's a reason why he's lasted this long in the off season. There's a reason why he struggled last year. He just may never be the same guy again, you know?
Starting point is 00:15:57 And so when you have these devastating injuries, when you have them at a certain age, it's hard to come back and be the same player. And so, you know, look, he's, he should be, you know, I don't know what the Browns do in terms of like, uh, their own hall of fame or ring of honor or whatever they, they do their honor players. Um, he belongs in it. You know, he was so good for that team for so long, but they clearly wanted to go in a different direction. And so how many times do you see guys after injuries like that change teams at this point in their careers and still be good?
Starting point is 00:16:27 It just doesn't happen. It seems like long shot. I think it's, it's not, this really isn't about Nick Chubb being good. It's about just how much work he's going to take. Clearly if he's good, it's going to impact Joe Mixon in a completely negative way. But I think it's just more of this is, this is a signing that the Texans feel will help their team This is a signing that's an indication on Damian Pierce and Darrell Gumbale Who's more of a special teams guy, but maybe it's an indication that they're just not ready to give Woody Marx
Starting point is 00:16:53 You know a bigger workload and knowing what their offense looked like when Nixon missed time last year You know Gumbale had some good games, but clearly not same. It's just it, it's a, it's a, it's probably a smart signing by the Texans. But again, when we talk about it for fantasy, um, this isn't going to crush Joe, at least my opinion, not going to crush Joe Mixon. It's just, again, when you start to nitpick these guys of him versus Walker, him versus Camaro, him versus Connor, him versus the rookies, depending on how it shakes out with how much you like Henderson or Hampton or Harvey, you know, your, your triple H guys.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Um, you know, where does mixing now fall? And so I think if you're still in the mixing camp, you're going to get him at a discounted price, which is great. If you're, if you were, I'm not drafting a 29 year old running back, you're probably not going to draft him now at all unless he just falls to a good spot. So yeah. And I am currently viewing it as more likely that Nick Chubb gets cut than returns
Starting point is 00:17:47 to his 2022 in prior form. Okay. Gets cut like doesn't make team. Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. I mean, yeah, sorry. Go ahead. Good. I mean, look, just because I think it's so outrageous to hope for a 29 year old running back coming off of that injury that was that bad last year to be what he was before that. And if he's still what he was last year, they probably don't have a use for him. Somebody said in the chat, the Texans O line is gross. And that's another thing. Yeah. I mean, they lost two offensive linemen from last year, including their best lineman left tackle Laramie Tunsel. But actually, they rated very poorly. PFF had them 25th in run blocking ESPN had
Starting point is 00:18:30 the Texans 31st in run blocking last year. So they already dealt with a bad offense line. You don't want to get worse. I'm I'm not saying that the loss of Tunsel isn't a big deal. I mean, it definitely is. Someone also says in the chat, Adam, would you eat a bacon, egg and cheese with ketchup on a cinnamon raisin bagel? One of the New York City mayor candidates, mayoral candidates says he does it that way. Did he say that? Because I thought it was Cuomo who said he eats a bacon, cheese and egg or something
Starting point is 00:18:57 like that. And then I saw Colbert make fun of him. It's like, okay, it's bacon, egg and cheese. But I would not eat a bacon, egg and cheese. Hmm. Would I? I might need a bacon, egg and cheese with ketchup on a cinnamon raisin bagel I don't I you know what would bother me is the ketchup I'd be fine with a bacon egg and cheese on a cinnamon raisin bagel would I? Ugh saying it out loud I'm not sure I would but the ketchup I think is too much I don't think I would do this it's disgusting disgusting. Okay, moving on to a non Nick Chubb Joe Mixon topic.
Starting point is 00:19:28 The Steelers sign Aaron Rodgers. Dave and I did a bonus podcast on that, but Jamie and Heath, if you have any thoughts on this. This doesn't change anything. We've been operating under this assumption all off season, right? For the most part, yeah. You know, I think really what this is about, and I'm sure you guys touched on this, is the receivers there and
Starting point is 00:19:48 the playmakers. And the John New Smith story is still out there. There was John New's agent, Drew Rosenhouse, does a weekly spot on a South Florida TV station, and he said that the situation is still fluid, I believe was his quote. So the talks seem like they're still ongoing. So that would certainly help Roger's case if he has another playmaker like John Smith. But really is can he make DK Metcalf into a superstar? I'm sure you argued for that. Well, not a superstar. No, I like him in a five.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Help his fantasy value with with the potential of being the number one guy for Aaron Rodgers. And, you know, this this makes Pat Fryermuth more interesting if he's the the tight end there. Their number two receiver right now is Robert Woods. I mean, that's how gross this receiving corps is. Maybe Roman Wilson steps up, maybe Calvin Austin steps up. You know, Robert Woods right now is a guy that could be starting for them. And that just kind of shows you where this receiving corps is. It's still Arthur Smith. I don't think this is going to be Rodgers walking in and doing what he typically does, which is run everything
Starting point is 00:20:46 because he typically has the control of the offense coordinator, at least the ear of the offense coordinator. So my guess is that you'll get value from Rodgers and Super Flex in two quarterback leagues, but in one quarterback leagues, even in great matchups, even in these revenge games, because they're seemingly on a revenge tour
Starting point is 00:21:04 almost every week for him. Um, I just, I can't see a lot of people trusting him at this point. Okay. Yeah. I think we've seen Nick Chubb be Nick Chubb more recently than we've seen Aaron Rodgers be Aaron Rodgers. Um, the, the, the, the two kind of questions and I gave give Metcalf a little touchdown boosts.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Um, the two things Roger has done is heavily target his number one wide receiver and produce a touchdown rate that is better than his other efficiency stats. So you hope that Metcalf's always been a red zone target, no matter who he's played with. So you hope that Metcalf scores a lot of receiving touchdowns. What I don't know. And Jamie, you kind of receiving touchdowns. The, what I don't know. And Jamie, you kind of hit on it.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Like Rogers has generally had a lot of control and a lot of say about what the team is doing, especially in the red zone. Smith has average Arthur Smith's average 481 pass attempts per game over the last three years and has almost as many rushing touchdowns as he does passing touchdowns in those three years with quarterbacks that probably well I don't know I'm not I'm not ready to say there and Rogers is definitively better than Russell Wilson right now so but he better than doesn't does Rogers influence Smith's run heavy tendencies especially especially in the red zone. How many touchdowns do you have him projected for too many, it seems like, but, uh, 24. So I think if it's, if you're counting on 24, I think is a fair number.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I would say 20 to 24 is probably the range of outcomes. I'd be surprised if it was more than that. You know, maybe 18 is the low but like who's catching touchdowns for them? Like that's the thing. It's like there'll be the combination of tight ends assuming John and Smith doesn't go there. There'll be the combination of tight ends firing move to probably have eight would be my guess if things go great for him. I mean, Metcalf could have 10 touchdowns wouldn't shock me. Arthur Smith six seasons as a coordinator or coach. It's been 29th in past 29th or lower in
Starting point is 00:23:06 pass rate in five of those six. The only time he wasn't was the Matt Ryan year where he was 8th in pass rate but they had bad running backs out here. They Mike Davis and Cordell Patterson so he's a run first coach. We know that. Alright, let's talk about the Colts.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Anthony Richardson hurt his shoulder. Michael Pittman bumped knees last week and he's likely going to miss OTA. So we had voluntary OTAs last week. We have mandatory mini camps this week for most teams. And Michael Pittman probably won't play but Richardson won't play either this week. So he hurt his shoulder. Is this a you know, is this a big deal guys? Or is this just some offseason injury that is getting a lot of attention? Because you know, not a lot of not a lot in
Starting point is 00:23:49 the news cycle these days. I changed my week one projection. I mean, I the way my projections function, you can only project I only project one quarterback and I'm projecting Daniel Jones now instead of Anthony Richardson. I think I, I was really optimistic, hopeful that it wouldn't come to this, but you can't draft Richardson as anything more than a late round dart throw, just hoping for the upside. And the thing I was really disappointed is I thought when I, if, if I made that
Starting point is 00:24:19 change, the consolation prize would be, no, at least it'd be better for the other players on the Colts. to the consolation prize would be, no, at least it'll be better for the other players on the Colts, but Daniel Jones has been so miserably bad as a quarter, as a passer, and he's not as efficient as a rusher as Richardson that I, I really, like the only guy who maybe gets a little boost, I think is Jonathan Taylor. Maybe, maybe Josh Downs does too, but I just don't know again, how much they want, do they want to throw? They don't want to throw as much as they did when Flacco was playing quarterback.
Starting point is 00:24:50 How much are they going to let Daniel Jones throw? And is, is there any reason to believe that Daniel Jones will be better than Richardson as a passer because Richardson's average 6.9 yards for attempt for his career, Daniel Jones has never done that in a season. Like I just, they're, they're both really bad passers. I had hope that maybe Richardson as a young guy could be better. I don't have that hope for Daniel Jones. Well, Richardson, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Uh, boy Richardson, uh, was on pace for roughly 3000 yards last year. If you remove week four. So week four, I guess was a game he left in. Yeah, left that super early with an injury. So about 3000 yards. Daniel Jones is usually on pace for at least 3500 yards. He throws more than Richardson. Obviously he's been in a different offense,
Starting point is 00:25:41 but that was one of the things that surprised me. Daniel Jones, his best year was 2022. That's when they won the playoff game. He averaged 29.5 pass attempts per game in every other season in his healthy games. You have to remove a lot of games. He leaves a lot of games early, but in the games that he didn't leave early with injury in every other season, Daniel Jones has averaged at least 32.4 pass attempts per game. That actually very much surprised me. Whereas Richardson last year and his healthy games averaged 26 pass attempts per game. That actually very much surprised me. Whereas Richardson last year and his healthy games averaged 26 pass attempts per game. So you don't seem to think there'd be a big boost. Obviously we have the Tyler Warren factor. So you got to look at like Josh Downs was amazing with Joe Flacco last year and miserable with Anthony
Starting point is 00:26:21 Richardson. But now you've got Warren, who's gonna get some targets too. Pittman, who was playing hurt all year. But I do think you'll get more pass attempts at the very least from Daniel Jones. Maybe a lot more. I would tend to agree with that simply from a guy who's got experience. The thing I think that you look at is,
Starting point is 00:26:40 first off, in terms of the injury, it could just be preca know precautionary that they don't want to you know risk him coming into training camp hurt so I wouldn't necessarily rush to judgment on anything with the Colts yet because unless you're drafting now and you have to make a call then you know maybe you give a slight boost to the pass catchers because of Daniel Jones I agree with Heath I don't think you should change anything dramatically and I know Adam you were you were you know sort of banging this drum last year about What they would look like if flackle played versus what they look like rich and played based on what Gardner mentioned it the year before When he was the guy there for the Colts and how those guys performed and it made total sense
Starting point is 00:27:14 So this to Heath's point doesn't necessarily change. I think a lot But it could just be more opportunities because again, they may trust, you know, Richardson trust Jones a little bit more than Richardson. So I'm still viewing it as Richardson should have the chance to, you know, be the starter come week one. Now, if Jones comes out and his lights out and then he's getting the first reps in camp and just, you know, continues to play well, then clearly it's going to be tough for him. But I don't think there should be anything decided right now for Indianapolis
Starting point is 00:27:44 because he's missing minicamp Josh downs see if I have it like I think he averaged like 15 average 10.7 PPR fantasy points per game with Anthony Richardson and he averaged oh a lot more than a 15 point 15.4 PPR fantasy points per game with Flacco, which would have made downs wide receiver 17 per game over a full season and Flacco averaged 36 pass attempts per game in his in the weeks that he either started or mostly played. All right, anything else on this or shall we move on? We can move on. I think it's just too soon to make a judgment.
Starting point is 00:28:26 You know, this isn't a season ending injury. Right. Right. I know it's a lot of people I think are like, Oh, another Anthony Richards and injury shoulder, but might just be nothing. Sometimes I, if we were in the same boat that we were last year, you know, where you're drafting him as a top 10 quarterback with, okay, look at the upside, my gosh, it's hard to overlook what he did as a rookie, those few games, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:28:46 blah. Then yes, you're dropping him severely down your draft boards, but nobody's expecting him to come in as a number one fantasy quarterback. If you are, you haven't been paying attention. So I wouldn't overvalue Jones. If you're doing Super Flex and two quarterback drafts now, he's available in your dynasty leagues, you should definitely have him on your roster. But at this point, redraft leagues, wait, just wait.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Daniel Jones Deheath must have the lowest touchdown rate in world history. 3.1%, I think it's one point lower than Trevor Lawrence and one point lower than Anthony Richardson. I mean, it's unbelievable because I did his 17 game paces. Well, I just say this, you don't have to look at the pace. His rookie year, Daniel Jones, 2019 is the only year of his career.
Starting point is 00:29:32 He's averaged more than a touchdown per game. It's unbelievable. All right. It's the rushing upside. I mean, the year that he had before the ACL, when he was 3,500 and 700 rushing, like those years are hard to find. Absolutely. And it wasn't his only year on pace,500 and 700 rushing, like those years are hard to find. Absolutely. And it wasn't his only year on pace for more than 700 rushing yards.
Starting point is 00:29:49 He did that twice. Um, one a year was very short. Okay. Yeah. Well, I was going to, I mean, it is one of my favorite, uh, collections of stats. If I can get my stat machine to work fast. Um, but there there's, uh, a few quarterbacks who have thrown 2000 passes in the NFL who have a lower touchdown rate than Daniel Jones all
Starting point is 00:30:12 time, all time. Wow. Who? Joey Harrington. Okay. Chad Henney, David Carr and Rick Meyer. Oh, wow. Okay. Blasts from the past. Chad Henney, David Carr, and Rick Myrer. Oh, wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Blasts from the past. A lot of collegiate stars there. I'm gonna get through the rest of the news and notes pretty quickly here. We'll move on to the fill in the blank. Mike Dugar of the Athletic says that JSN is gonna line up out wide more. And he also says that Cooper Cup is a tough cover
Starting point is 00:30:42 when he's in the slot. Carolina tight end, Jatavian Sanders lost 10 pounds. John Osher of jaguars.com thinks D'Ami Brown is going to play a huge role in the offense. Also Liam Cohn praised Trevor Lawrence. This is one of those reports that I just have a hard time believing, but I feel like, maybe Jamie, I feel like you might buy into it a little bit
Starting point is 00:31:04 with D'Ami Brown having a huge role in the Jaguars offense. So, uh, Pete Prisco is going to Jacksonville, I believe this week or next week. Um, you know, he's very tied into that team, uh, from what he's told me that they're moving these guys around a lot, you know, all three receivers, Thomas Hunter and Brown. And, you know, if you look at the, the offense and I think how it's going to operate with Liam Cohen there, there's opportunities. So I'm actually writing a story this week on veterans that we are going to ignore that will have fantasy relevancy at some point
Starting point is 00:31:35 this season. You go back to last year and it was Darnold, it was John Smith, it was Kareem Hunt, it was, um, who am I leaving out? Um, Zach Ertz. Zach Ertz is a great call. Um, you know, these guys that just still can get the job done in some capacity that, you know, I, I, I, I just did this because part of the story, Alan Lazard at the start of the season last year was fantastic until Devonta Adams joined the team. So like, and he has no ADP right now and he's the number two receiver for the Jets and and their offense. Do you want to draft Allen's art? No one does. But by week two, by week four, he may be a starter in three receiver leagues. Damme Brown is one of these guys. He's actually the reason that I came up with the story
Starting point is 00:32:21 was because I think he's just one of these guys that are going to have some semblance of relevancy. Why he's had like five good games in his entire career. But it's not it's not about him being consistent starter. It's about one or two games. And look, what if Hunter ends up spending more time on defense? What if one of those guys get injured? Like it's not there. You're not drafting these guys. That's not what the story is about. It's just at some point they may be waiver wire additions. You know who should be in your column. Let's hear. Cleveland Browns wide receiver Deontay Johnson.
Starting point is 00:32:51 He is in the conversation. The Browns I did Joe Flacco and Jerome Forda. They could have more. Good. All right, moving on. Let's see, we got some players who could miss. Who led the Bills in touchdown recessions last year? Oh my gosh. Amari Cooper. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Who? James Cook. Mack Hollins. Oh wow, nice. He always wins the games. Alright, noteworthy players. You know who was top six in receptions among tight ends and top seven in yards. Who was top six in receptions and top seven yards among tight ends. Yep. How was this not super Hunter Henry? Hunter Henry. Yes. I love that call. He could, he could have a nice year. I mean, these, these are guys like. We, these are guys. we, these are guys.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Correct. These are guys. I mean, again, you said Zach Ertz, great call. John Smith, top five tight end, Sam Darnold, top 10 quarterback. Like there's going to be somebody. You guys. All right. Players who could skip mandatory OTAs this week or mini camps, Cincinnati defensive entry Hendrickson a couple of commanders, Terry McLaurin and Laramie Tunsel, Kirk Cousins, Micah Parsons, TJ Watt, John who Smith, James Cook. Those are some of the names. The Packers
Starting point is 00:34:15 finally released cornerback Jair Alexander and Adam Sandler says he's going to cast Derek Henry in a movie if he rushes for 2000 yards. Yeah, that was a cool phone, a video phone, video call or video. It was just a video. Did you see how it all unfolded? Not really, but I kind of, I read about it. So he was on the Dan Patrick show, Derek Henry was, and Dan Patrick does a lot of Adam Sandler's movies. And some how came up about that. he loves Adam Sandler, Derek Harington with Adam Sandler. So he said, if he runs for 2000 yards, Dan Patrick will call Adam Sandler and make sure he's in his next movie.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And then he called Sandler and said, hey, will you give Derek Henry a message or something? I'll give you his info. And so then he recorded the video of for Henry, which Henry watched, it was cool. Yeah, it was very cool. All right, we're gonna take a break. When we come back, Christian McCaffrey will finish
Starting point is 00:35:08 as RB Blank if he remains healthy. We'll do some fill in the blank after this. Thank you to our audience members for providing our fill in the blanks today. You can follow me on Twitter at Adam Azer, A-I-Z-E-R. I have now gained about five followers in the last five years. So I appreciate that. Heath is at Heath Cummings SR
Starting point is 00:35:26 and Jamie is at Jamie Eisenberg, J-A-M-E-Y. Okay, here we go. Evan says, Christian McCaffrey will finish as Arby Blank if he remains healthy. One. Three. Three. One.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Two. Okay, we'll average it out at two. Also blank will share the backfield with Ashton Genti and because of this Ashton Genti will finish as RB blank. Raheem Mostert and RB five. No one RB four. There we go. Thank you, Evan.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Uh, we can do another one from Evan if you want. I wasn't planning on, should can do another one from Evan if you want. I wasn't planning on it. Should we do another one? Yeah. Blank is your favorite sleeper tight end this year. Favorite? Dalton Kincaid. That's yeah I Don't can I see TJ Hockinson? Yeah, sure. Okay. Okay. Let's go to Jim Hamer The current free agent most likely to make me adjust my rankings is blank With Dobbins, right? Yeah, yeah and
Starting point is 00:36:43 He would be a much bigger deal than Nick Chubb, right? How many free agents out there could still make a difference? So Dobbins Chubb, if he signs clearly is on the verge of that. Kenan Allen. Yep. Kenan Allen could definitely eat up some targets. Right? Yeah. I mean, you know, Schaefer suggested in our chat when talking about Rogers that, you know, Kenan Allen could join the Steelers, which would be a huge upgrade over what they have.
Starting point is 00:37:08 But like where he goes could, you know, certainly swing the receiving core for that team. All right. Next up is I am Groot. When making peanut butter and jelly, I use blank jelly. On a related note, creamy or chunky peanut butter? I go strawberry jelly or chunky peanut butter? I go strawberry jelly and creamy peanut butter. Currently sugar-free jelly. And what about your peanut butter?
Starting point is 00:37:37 I don't even know. You don't know if it's creamy or chunky? Have you ever had it? I can't remember the last time I had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. My, my, my son eats them a lot. What is this sugar free jelly? I'm interested to learn more. I don't know if it's, I think it's no added sugar jelly. Oh,
Starting point is 00:37:53 the fruit still has sugar in it, but the, uh, the teenagers on a no added sugar kick. And so that's the jelly that's in the house. Yeah, it's good. Okay. All right. So I've got, uh, so I've got, yeah, Jamie, you could make me a PB&J sandwich any day. I had strawberry jelly with creamy peanut butter. Chunky or crunchy peanut butter is awful. I mean, it's not awful. It's the worst, it's just, peanut butter is one of the best foods out there.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I mean, super versatile. Sorry to all the people who have the allergy, but the chunky and the crunchy like revolting, like come on now. Okay. Thank you Groot. Vinny Knapp says, my dark horse player outside of rounds one through three
Starting point is 00:38:37 to finish as number one overall at his position is blank. Ooh. Outside of rounds one through three. That is a good one. I'm gonna I'm gonna eliminate quarterbacks from this list. Oh, they're saying Jane Daniels, even Lamar Jackson, I'm seeing with I got one that's a cheat code, though. Kittle. Oh, yeah. I we got to make it harder here with running backs and wide receivers only who
Starting point is 00:39:05 are going to be drafted outside of round three, but could finish as number one at the position. Mixon. Yeah. Yeah. Godwin. You're taking Mixon? Actually, I would say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:17 How are you not saying Tyree kill right now? I think he's around three guy. Oh, okay. I'm looking at fantasy pros ADP. He's 27th. Joe Mixon's 52nd. Chris Godwin's on this list. It's hard to make a case for a lot of these.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Rashi Rice. Rice is a good call. I was thinking of him. Rushy Rice. Rice is a good call. I was thinking him. He's he's 29th. But yeah, I think it's like I'm trying to think like any of the handcuffs running backs. Oh, yeah. I'm going mixing.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Officially. All right. Good question. Next up, what do we got? Next up is Faisal. Faisal. Faisal. Blank player is the best middle of the first round pick.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I picked six or seven. And blank is the best middle of the second round pick. So if you have the sixth or seventh pick, how do you wanna start your team? 12 team league. Who's the best pick in round one at six or seven? Yeah, and then the end round two as well. If CD Lambs there, that's my favorite.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Round two, Drake London. HN. Yeah, it's funny Heath, that you say HN, cause his ADP is 17th. So he's the answer to the second round one based on fantasy pros ADP, but well he's always in the first mid, first round pick in our drafts.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I'm gonna go AJ Brown in the second round. It's good coffee there. It is nice that you are looking at a list of ADP that you're using to determine these answers that were not so. That makes it fun. Yeah. Brock Bowers, can you be the second? Yeah. Yeah, for fun. Yeah. Rock Bowers. Can you be the second? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah, for sure. Okay. All right. Next demon or next fill in the blank. Next tweet is from Matt Johnson. Matt says he's willing to wait on quarterback blank is who I'm targeting and I'll take him in round blank. And then I want to pair him with blank in round blank? Um, I tend to draft three guys if I can, which would be Baker Mayfield, Bo Nix or Justin
Starting point is 00:41:54 Fields. And I would take them no sooner than round eight, which is probably where Baker would Baker would be first. Nick's not far behind. Fields you can get later. Pair them with one of fields if he falls, Caleb Williams, if he falls, Drake May or Trevor Lawrence. I'll go fields in round nine and pretty in round 10. And finally, we have Sean who says Josh Downs will finish as a top blank wide receiver
Starting point is 00:42:28 if Jones starts all season. He will finish with blank yards and blank touchdowns. And a bonus, Adam Azer will have blank hits compared to blank errors for the remainder of his softball season. I'll take the bonus one. Adam will have two hits compared to five errors for the remainder of the season.
Starting point is 00:42:50 How many games are left? We have a doubleheader tonight. I would say, let's see, we have a lot of games left. I'd say we probably have about eight games left. So I'll go four hits, eight errors. Yeah, that sounds right. And downs will be a top 50 wide receiver. And he will catch. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Yards and touchdowns. 80 catches, 800 yards, four touchdowns. All right. I like it. catches 800 yards or touchdowns. All right. I like it. Well, the, so honestly being in a rookie only dynasty draft is so fun. And Heath and Jamie, you guys are in other dynasty drafts.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Do you do all of yours untimed? Cause in our dynasty draft, the bake burger dynasty league is untimed. For those of you who don't know what the bake burger dynasty league is, there's a running joke that I bake my hamburgers, cheeseburgers. I don't do that anymore, but yeah one time I had a very positive experience that came out great and I was never quite able to replicate it. But anyway the baked burger dynasty league we did it for St. Jude
Starting point is 00:44:01 for the draft-a-thon a couple years ago. We raised like $40,000 auctioning off a couple of spots so it was pretty incredible. And this is we're going into year three now. So anyway we're doing the untimed rookie-only draft. I think I'm on deck if we get one of our British fellas to make a pick. But anyway do you always make it oh oh we have a trade. Oh, Schaefer just acquired this pick. He just this second acquired the current pick to take. Who are you taking? Let's go Schaefer. You can take Dylan Gabriel. Come on in.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Yeah, I just took Dylan Gabriel. OK, great. Well, I was going to do that with the pick that I have on the clock for now. You swooped in and took Dylan Gabriel. Okay, great. Well, I was gonna do that with the pick that I have on the clock for now, but you'd swooped in and took Dylan Gabriel. Well done. Yeah, we're almost done. We have three picks left in a 48 pick rookie only draft, four rounds.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Anyway, Heath, are they all untimed? Oh no, not at all. They are a variety of different times. Some of them are on time. Some of them are like eight hour clocks. I think it's what we do for YOLO. Some of them are much shorter. It's like a four hour clock, but none of them,
Starting point is 00:45:16 none of them live. Which would be interesting. Untimed is great. I mean, cause it's only gonna take, it's only gonna take a week, right? We did an untimed draft great. I mean, because it's only gonna take it's only gonna take a week. Right? We did an untimed draft. And untimed is much better in June than it is in July or August. Just because of like a week in July might change the value of
Starting point is 00:45:39 three or four players significantly, not a whole lot is changing in June. Well, we're having untimed draft. I think I told the story before where it was a 32 team office league. And clearly if you get a huge advantage with a late round pick, sways the entire league. Dave was on the clock.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I don't long remember how long he was waiting to pick, but it wasn't that long. He wasn't like doing anything egregious and Brett Favre signs with the Vikings. This is not a rookie draft. This is a draft draft. This is a, yeah, this was in August, whatever. And the guy who had drafted whatever the Vikings starter was at that point, I don't remember who it was. Josh McCown maybe. Tavares Jackson, Seydsler and Fells. Yeah, was so mad. So I get, I get Brett Farf.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Of course you don't get Brett Farf. Like this is the, he was so, so pissed off and they've got Brett Farf. Well, we made some trades in this league, including Schaeffer trading some late round picks to get the 45th pick and take Dylan Gabriel. But not a lot of love for the quarterbacks. What'd you say, Jamie?
Starting point is 00:46:55 He made another trade also earlier. All right, Schaeffer, what trades did you make? I traded a couple of picks to move up to get, what's his name? Jaylen Milrow. Oh, right, right. Oh yeah, you did. That was cool. Yeah, I need, my team's really good.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I just need a little bit of luck with quarterbacks. So that's what I was doing. And you did that in the late second round, right? Jaylen Milrow? Yeah, yeah. Jamie was up, then it was Dan, and I figured one of them were going to take him. So I traded my third that I had in this year's and then two seconds to move up. I don't really
Starting point is 00:47:33 consider picks very like I don't hold them very high until my team blows up. And then, you know, I trade all my assets for first. Wow, a third and two seconds to take Jalen Morrow. That's, that's pretty risky, I'd say. And then Jamie, you made a trade. I thought it was great trade. What'd you make? I did. I traded Drake London for Rashi Rice and to a tongue of yellow. It's super flex league. So that's why Thomas, you know, is trying to acquire quarterbacks. My three quarterbacks on this roster were Justin Herbert, Anthony Richardson and Joe Flacco. So I don't have that much of a drop off
Starting point is 00:48:09 between London and Rice. And I thought getting to a, was very important. My team should be competitive, but don't like to give up the best player in the draft and trade, but thought I got better value in return. Heath, have you made any trades recently? I made a trade in round one of this draft that Jamie liked, Dave hated and Twitter mostly hated too. But that's okay. I traded, I had 105,
Starting point is 00:48:35 19 and 110 in this draft, took Trevion Henderson at 105, took Matthew Golden at 109 and traded 110 golden at 109 and traded 110 for what turned into Deandre Swift, Jack Besh, Shador Sanders and a 2026 second. Oh, I think it's a pretty good haul. I mean, you gave up the guy that turned into Colston Loveland. That's who went 110 and you got, you said Swift, Shador Sanders. Who was it again? Jack Besh, Shador Sanders and a 2026 second. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:06 And I traded Ken Walker for Devante Smith, which was just kind of an interesting trade. It was the right move for your team. Yeah, my team sucks. But yeah, here's the first round of the- Did you shop Walker around or was that just the first trade offer that was proposed to you? That was just the first trade offer that was proposed to me,
Starting point is 00:49:28 but I was happy with it. Ashton Genti went first. This is a PPR league. It's not tight end premium and it is Superflex. So Genti, Travis Hunter, Cam Ward, O'Marian Hampton, Trevion Henderson, Ted Teteroa McMillan, RJ Harvey, Quinshawn Judkins, Matthew Golden, Colston Loveland, Emeka Ibuka, and Jackson Dart. And I really thought, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:49:55 Loveland went, what, five picks ahead of Tyler Warren. Jackson Dart was an interesting pick. You know, what stood out to you guys in our draft? So I really struggled with, and I know this impacted Heath's trade, I really struggled with Judkins versus Dart because again, my quarterback situation is pretty bad or felt pretty bad at least. And so I was like, okay okay at least let me try and find somebody that could start at some point this season and help me for the future but I thought okay Judkins to me has just too much more upside given the you
Starting point is 00:50:37 know positions that they play relative to how this NFL draft went and so I also needed a running back so I took Judkins and I know that changed Heath's plans because I think if I had not made that trade, you were staying at 10, right? Well, no, I made the trade just before you made the pick. But I 100% would have taken Judkins. I thought there was a pretty big tear break after him. And I was trying, I actually tried to move back from nine to get back into that 13, 14, 15 range. Cause I thought all three of those guys, and Adam mentioned Warren, but also Luther Burden and Caleb Johnson. All three of those guys are, uh, right there with the guys who went at the end of round one.
Starting point is 00:51:18 So it just kind of reinforced for me where I have the tear breaks in terms of how I value these guys. And it's, um, like a top seven to eight, depending on where Harvey goes, cause I'm lower on him is, is a pretty clear tier for me. And then there's about seven or eight more in that late round one, early round two. And a lot of times you can move back from late round one into early round two and get something pretty decent in return. Um, I was unable to do that, but I like all three of those picks there at the start of round two.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Uh, I think I have a pretty good team now. I'm excited about this team. I don't under, I think it's a, like you should write an article since you like writing so much about like how to proceed in a dynasty league when you clearly have one of the two worst teams in the league and you don't have your first round pick next year. I don't think that's so bad. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:15 So here's what we got. Got Jayden Daniels and Cam Ward at quarterback and super flex. Let me add before you, before you read the whole team, did you give any consideration to trading Walker for a pick next year? Yeah, I mean, maybe. Did I give? Yeah, sure. But I like, I like to I'm happy with the Vontae. I considered offering you my not my first, but the I have two first next year, I considered offering you one of those for Walker, um, but I didn't. Okay. So I've got cam ward and, and Jayden Daniels, I've got RJ Harvey and tank
Starting point is 00:52:52 bigsby I've got, um, we're still on the starters folks. Yeah. Yeah. Malik neighbors and Roma doonsay. I've got, okay. Yeah. Malik neighbors and Devante Smith. I've got... And Devontae Smith. Okay, yeah. Malik neighbors and Devontae Smith. I've got Elijah Arroyo at tight end. And then my flexes are Odunze, Wondale Robinson, Amari Cooper and Quentin Johnston.
Starting point is 00:53:18 So I think things are... Things are looking up. Things are looking up. The problem is that you don't have a first round pic next year. Well, but I had two this year. So I took Cam Ward and R.J. Harvey. I was very happy. I came away with Cam Ward, R.J. Harvey, Analyzer Arroyo and Trevor Etienne and Gunnar Helm. I was pretty happy. I thought I had a good draft. You definitely had a good draft.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Azer, somehow you got to get your first round pick for 2026 next year, because you're going to probably come in like last place. So it'll be, you need to reacquire that pick so you can build this team back. Yeah. The thing is like, I don't have a first round pick, but obviously I have a second round pick. I should still tank, right? I mean, I don't think it's really going to change much. Like it's probably the difference between zero and one win. No, there are a lot of bad teams and a lot of teams that just straight up tank in this league. I think I can make the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:54:13 No, you cannot. All I need is a lot. What you should do is almost take Thomas's philosophy and just start trading all your draft picks to acquire talent. I could do that. I don't really have a lot of the, you should just see if you can get 2027 firsts. Like can, can you, I, can I add some firsts two years from now and maybe the other way I would, I would just be trading picks for. He doesn't have that many picks.
Starting point is 00:54:45 He has one second next year. Like 2027 picks, 2028 picks, like just start, just become the saints. Just kick it down the road. Take on salary as opposed to draft the Rams, be the Rams. It's tough when like I don't have any surplus of anything. So I can't make a trade for, for picks. Cause then I'm just going to be horrible. Oh, you're trading
Starting point is 00:55:06 I know you're saying you're saying I should trade picks for players instead of players for picks All right. Well, we'll see we'll see how it goes. You know, we'll see where i'm at after four weeks and then you know like when heath is out of it because heath is like on a He's the team like he could make the playoffs or he could be total rebuild, right? Yep I that's why I didn't offer that first for Walker yet, because I just going to wait until we get to week six and see, see where we're at with this team. Oh, I have Basial Tutin also forgot about that. So we're good.
Starting point is 00:55:35 But I have Basial Tutin. I just wanted to mention that. Yeah. That was a good, good recovery for you after you lost the two receivers that you wanted. Yeah. I mean, I didn't lose the two receivers that I wanted. They were obviously, it was Kyle Williams and Trey Harris. They were obviously going to get picked before my pick.
Starting point is 00:55:57 They were very obvious picks. I was born. No, between the two of them, it was tough. But to have both of them selected where they were selected, they're so much more appealing than any of the receivers who went after them so i didn't think that dan was going to take williams he took he took kyle williams ahead of trey harris no i took harris then he took williams then you took toton i thought dan would take toton so one of the topics i wanted to bring up was i thought maybe the the the, okay, obviously you're going to get the two tight ends who were first round picks are going to go probably first round, if not early second, which is what happened in our draft. I think that maybe the next five tight
Starting point is 00:56:34 ends is it four or five? It's four, right? Yeah. Three in the second round. And then a Ferguson, Taylor, a Royal, a Royal. Yeah. Four. I feel like they, I think they maybe should go ahead of Kyle Williams and Trent Harris, Trey Harris, excuse me. I, they lasted a pretty long time. I don't think any of those next four went until the third round. Kind of surprised me. Like I think that the second round tight end should probably be going ahead of a fourth round running back or something like that. I mean, it probably comes down to team need. Like, you know, I don't necessarily disagree with you, but you know, like for my team,
Starting point is 00:57:15 I didn't need one of those tight ends as much as I needed a receiver. I think the hard thing is to like, if you're talking about at the end of round two or middle of round two, especially even if you need a tight end, I don't feel like any of those guys are going to help my team this year. I took Harold Fanon in round three and I was really happy in round three to do that, but round three, I'm not thinking about somebody who might be able to help me this year. And I did take Basil Tudin around for running back over any of those tight ends, but that was because I was picking in three or four more picks, and I knew what least one of them would be
Starting point is 00:57:47 available. And it turned out all of them were available because it went to Tuten, Jaden blue, Jalen know, Jalen Royals, and then three straight tight ends a royal fan in Ferguson, Cheddar Sanders, Mason Taylor, like I can't I don't just in a vacuum, I can't imagine drafting Jalen Royals or Jalen Noll over those, those four tight ends. But it's also super flex. So like dark gets pushed up. Chuck gets pushed up. Yeah. But no real gets pushed up. But only three of those guys were drafted. Oh no, four. Yeah, but no, it gets up. But only three of those guys were drafted. Oh no, four. Yeah, four. So it was Cam Ward early round one Jackson Dart late round one. Milro and Shuck were round two picks. Right. Milro and Shuck don't go on round two and one quarterback traps.
Starting point is 00:58:37 No, maybe maybe Schaefer's drafting. Who knows? All right, Azer, you cannot even talk. I've lost four games in two years. Thomas went win now and you're one and it's still working out for him. All right. Look, I drafted Trevor Lawrence into Sean Watson. I thought I was going win now and you're one. Does it does it always work out that way? Does it? In fact, Heath, aren't we gonna do a show like revisiting the draft on your dynasty show? Yeah, and we'll miserably see how I did go win now in year one and everybody got everybody got yours is one of the worst.
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