Fantasy Football Today - Biggest Busts, Week 15 Tough Calls, Fantasy Cops and Dynasty RB Risers (12/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 16, 2020

Who is the biggest bust of 2020? Is it CEH? Zeke? Perhaps there is a WR who stands out? We start the show with that debate and then give you your news and notes (11:15) as Benny Snell and Phillip Lindsay could have big roles this week ... Week 15 tough calls (19:15) including Jared Goff, Ezekiel Elliott and Tyler Lockett. Then we'll talk Dynasty (35:00) and tell you which RBs are on the rise and we'll preview Chargers-Raiders (42:00! Is Derek Carr a solid start? Is Nelson Agholor a better option than some RBs in tough matchups? Are we cool with Justin Herbert? ... The Fantasy Cops are back to settle your league disputes (53:00) and we end the show with a bunch of your emails (59:00)! ... Your emails at [e-mail]  'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Want winning picks each morning in under 10 minutes? Subscribe to 'The Early Edge: A Daily SportsLine Betting Podcast' on Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever else you listen to podcasts. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Who is the biggest bust of 2020? Not counting players who were injured, but yes, counting players whose quarterback got injured and then their value was completely sunk. We'll talk about that.

We've got some Week 15 tough calls. We'll be going back to Kyler Murray this week against a banged-up Eagles secondary. How about Kareem Hunt at the Giants? We got the Fantasy Cops. We got a Thursday night preview. We got Dave and Heath. We got everything we need. What's going on? I'm Adam Azer, everybody. Here's Dave Richard. What's up? What's up, Adam? How are you? I'm good. I'm looking forward to the week. I don't know. Yeah, I'm good. I'm looking forward to Saturday. I love

Saturday football. It's a shame that there's also college football, but excited about that. It's the way things go, but it is a lot of fun. Just wait a couple days and there probably won't be college football. How are you, Heath? I've got two things, a comment and a suggestion. Oh, please.

It's too late to change the host of the podcast. The comment is, I did a bad job and forgot to mention this last week, so I need to squeeze it in real quick. I'm wearing my new Roto-Wear shirt. Thank you, friends of the program. Kenny at Roto-Wear. Let's see it.

Let's see it. Because I am also wearing a Roto-Wear shirt. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Last week, I was fortunate enough to participate in the Fantasy Cares Toys for Tots shopping trip again. And this year, my family got to go with Kenny, who sold Scott Fishbowl shirts. And we spent $6,000 that people who bought Scott Fishbowl shirts raised.

Wow. I was eliminated from the Scott Fishbowl this week. But still, we went and got loads upon loads and delivered them to the local Toys for Tots office. So thank you, Kenny, for letting us participate. That's a beautiful story. That's a great way to start the show. Thank you for your charity.

Good stuff, everybody. And yeah, and thanks to Scott Fish for running. All the people out there that are so charitable in the fantasy community. It's just great stuff. Okay, today we're also going to talk about dynasty running backs, but let's get to the big question, which was who is the biggest bust of 2020? On Twitter, the two top answers are probably, from what I saw anyway, were Zeke and Clyde Edwards-Ziller, but I said not including players

who were injured. Who is the biggest bust in fantasy? I'm going to go with the obvious one. That's why I was jumping all over you while you were talking players who were injured who is the biggest bust in fantasy i'm gonna what do you got i'm gonna go with the obvious one that's why i was jumping all over you while you were talking to make sure that i got to seek first because it's the guy like we said some people were going to be busts the three of us and looked dumb but there was one guy we all universally said was going to be a bust as adp and he was a bust and it wasn't injury related and that was lamar Jackson. This is why you don't draft the guy that scored 500 fantasy points at quarterback and

expect him to score 500 fantasy points again the following year. Don't take Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers in the first round next year. He's hopefully going to help people win their leagues if they were able to get into the playoffs because right now he's peaking at the right time.

Do you know where he is? I'm guessing he's about qb 10 i believe he's 10th 10 there you go exactly uh dave who's your biggest bust i think his adp was right around 10th as well overall my goodness it's hard to do this when you can't consider players who got hurt because i think the case is pretty easy for Christian McCaffrey, who you got two good games out of, and then you had to wait a while. Then you got a good game. Then you have to wait, and we're still waiting. And he was on your bench the entire time while you were waiting. It wasn't like Saquon who got hurt, serious injury, done for the year. But as bad as he was, you can make an even better case for Joe Mixon

being that type of bust, but again, somebody who got hurt. So I'm going to say Chris Godwin has been kind of a bus. We were taking him round two range, expecting him to be, and he got hurt too, but he didn't miss nearly as much time as the other guys that I said. But I think Godwin's a pretty heavy duty bus this year. All things considered, we thought he'd be the top receiver in Tampa Bay. That hasn't happened. We thought he'd be the top receiver in Tampa Bay. That hasn't happened.

We thought he'd be the second coming of Julian Edelman. That hasn't quite happened. So I think that maybe I'm just being contrarian here because there's some obvious ones otherwise, but Godwin is who I will say really wasn't affected by injury, was taken with a very high draft pick, did not meet expectations. That's a really good call. He's 24th per game in PPR.

I didn't really think about that one. To me, Zeke and Edward Ziller are the top answers. Sam Lamar Jackson. Yeah. You know why I didn't consider him? Because in all of our leagues, he went in the third round. But yes, if you took him in the first round. Is he actually a bigger...

He's a top 10 quarterback. Is he a bigger bust than Clyde Edwards-Ziller, who's like 15th? If he helps people win their fantasy leagues, then I'm going to say that he's not as big of a bust. Which one? Lamar Jackson. What if Clyde Edwards-Ziller helps people win their fantasy leagues? Then he's not the biggest bust

either. Seems unlikely, doesn't it? And then it'll go to someone like Zeke or Godwin or someone that we haven't talked about yet. The point I was making was they've both been low-end starters at their position. I don't know why it's more likely one of them would than the other. Well, Jackson's playing really well and has a great schedule.

And Edward Zeller has New Orleans this week and just averaged two yards per carry. I know he had five catches, but that's been unreliable. Don't you feel a little more confident in Lamar Jackson right now than Clyde Edwards-Zehler? This week.

Yeah. And then like Zeke versus Edwards-Zehler, I just put a poll up and like 75% said Zeke. And he's interesting because he was, I want to say he was the number two running back in fantasy for the first five games of the year. He was hot to start the year, for sure.

Oh, I mean, he was elite. He was averaging, he was, he had seven, he was on pace in his first five games with Dak for 1,700 total yards, 19 touchdowns, and 77 catches. The total yards weren't great. The yards per carry weren't amazing, but whatever. They were high power offense. He was catching the weren't amazing, but whatever. They were a high-power offense. He was catching the ball a ton.

77 catch pace. No complaints. In fact, we were debating him versus Kamara as number one. And then Dak got hurt, and he's been pretty bad since. Edward Ziller, like, Edward Ziller's been a little bit better

in terms of, like, a PPR floor than I guess I realized, but not as many boom games. And he's on pace for 1,356 yards, only six touchdowns. Where are the touchdowns? And on pace for only 47 catches, which is disappointing. So who would you guys vote for if you had to, Zeke or CEH? With the idea being that CEH can put together one or two more good games before the end of the year,

my vote will go towards Zeke. Yeah, I think I'd have to go with Clyde at this point. Yeah, right now. Because Zeke gave you a third of a season of elite. He won you weeks the first five or six, seven weeks of the season. Right. There's been a lot of uncertainty over whether you can start Clyde for most of the year. Yeah.

But we're at that point with Zeke too. Now. Yeah. But Clyde never gave you the five or six game stretch Zeke did. That's true. Not consecutively. No. I think Zeke has one more game with double-digit non-PPR points

than Edward Ziller has. Yeah. The other thing about Edward Ziller is that that pace I gave you doesn't include the Denver game where he was active, people started him, we got the report he's going to play, and he didn't play. And that was in what week 13 i mean that's a crusher so week 12 or 13 uh it's 13 yeah bar okay we'll finish with this

who's a bigger bus than your mind saquon barkley who you could have just cut after two games but he had two pretty dudley games. Or Christian McCaffrey, who you've had to use a roster spot on, but he's had three tremendous games. McCaffrey or Barkley? Barkley. Yeah, I would say Barkley. Okay.

All right, then. Those are your biggest busts. And thank you all for participating on Twitter. I guess I should probably do the audience a little bit of justice and read some of their responses. Who's the biggest busts. And thank you all for participating on Twitter. I guess I should probably do the audience a little bit of justice and read some of their responses. Who's the biggest bust? Let's see.

I also got a lot of responses to my tweet about the movie Speed, which was on last night, and I found it to be outstanding. Loved it. I've seen it before, but I hadn't seen it in a long time. Great movie. Not including players who were injured. Who is the biggest bust? And this is not loading.

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My worst season ever. Ben's actually done very well in our leagues, but I guess not in this one. But Michael, thank you for your donation to St. Jude. That is great. Does Matt Ryan count? He just lost me my playoff matchup. He's been a bust this year.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's been a bust, but where'd you draft Matt Ryan? Right, I think a little too late to be a bust. Every tight end not named Kelsey? No. Hockinson's been great. Waller's been great.

Kittle could be in the same conversation as Saquon as far as a guy that wasn't necessarily amazing when he was playing and then he got hurt. You probably cut Kittle, and now there's talk that he could come back. That's like a stab. That's like a shiv right in your side. Got some votes for Mark Ingram.

Yeah. I mean, that is just a zero. Le'Veon Bell, obviously big bust. Miles Sanders, he absolutely pooped the bed, except against the best run Ds in the league. Impossible to predict his production. No question he's a bust. Okay.

Okay. Good stuff. James Conner. Did he make the list? He did not. Oh, there he is. Hollywood Brown. Yeah, I got like a hundred something response. Good stuff. James Conner. Did he make the list? He did not. Oh, there he is. Hollywood Brown. Yeah, I got like 100-something.

Juju. Juju is my worst pick. My worst prediction. Absolutely furious about that one. All right. News and notes, guys. So let's say we've got some opportunities at running back. Let's say we've got Leonard Fournette, Phillip

Lindsey, because Melvin Gordon has a shoulder injury. Jeff Wilson. Who else am I missing here? Benny Snell. How would you rank those four? So they would be Fournette, Benny Snell, Jeff Wilson,

and Phillip Lindsey. Heath, you get the first stab at it. I would like to rank the guy first. Whoever's starter is going to miss the game. Okay. If they all miss the game. I think Adam is assuming that in this exercise, all four starters miss the game. And I think that's unlikely was the point I was trying to make.

But if all four starters were to miss, Wilson would be my favorite. I think Lindsay would probably be my second favorite. And then probably Snell. I don't remember who the fourth guy was. It was Leonard. Don't worry. A lot of Bruce Aarons forgot who he was too.

I would go Wilson first. Then there's a gap. Then Snell, I think, is going to be second. Lindsey's going to be third. Leonard will be last. Yeah, I think Wilson's been running the ball well, and Dallas is so bad. But how much are you going to trust Philip Lindsey,

who hasn't been running the ball very well lately, whereas Gordon has? And how much are you going to trust Phillip Lindsey, who hasn't been running the ball very well lately, whereas Gordon has? And how much are you going to trust Benny Snell, who was kind of okay in one game without Connor? He had, I think, three catches for 30 yards. He had 90 total yards or so against a beat-up Ravens defense in a weird game in the middle of the week.

And then the week after that, there was still no James Conner. They were taking on Washington at home. We thought, okay, this is a great spot for Benny Snell. And I think he got you like one or two fantasy points. Yeah, he barely played. Terrible, but he actually I thought he looked a little bit better than

Conner last week. I think the offensive line is a huge problem. Snell seems to do a better job adapting to that offensive line, or at least he did in their last game. Well, how much faith are you going to have in him or Lindsey? Not a lot, which is why there's a big gap after Jeff Wilson. Okay.

Yeah, like one guy you didn't mention, and he's not really a – he's an injury replacement, but not for running backs, Lynn Bowden. He would, he would be second for me on the list. Oh, he might be first in full PPR. Well,

I, I prioritize that it that way in a league that you and I are facing each other this week. Oh, I know just because I have running backs and I don't have wide receivers. So yeah, if, if park, the reason he's like three guys probably need to be out for him to be first for me. But if Parker, Grant, and Gasicki are all three out, then Bowdoin's probably first in full PPR. We should talk about what happened in that league when we get to the fantasy cops.

Not that I did anything wrong, but I did play a little bit of defense against you. That's good. Defense is good. I was surprised, actually. I figured you would have been surprised, but I didn't want you... I think Jeff Wilson will be good if he gets that opportunity in San Francisco. I didn't want to run the risk of you

having him in our matchup. I guess we're doing this now. I knew how much fab you had're doing this now you had and i knew how much fab you had left and i had a lot of my fab left you had over 46 right over 46 of my fab left i think i had like 59 left or something technically you i had 22 left and both boden and wilson were both out there i would i kind of expected that you were going to put 23 on Bowdoin and 23 on Wilson. I,

I didn't have the room to carry both. I think I only had one Ross unless I cut Roethlisberger, which I didn't do. So I, I went with Wilson first and then Bowdoin, I put in a bit of like, I wanted to make you pay for him. So I think my bid on Bowdoin was 19.

I put 22 on both of them. I actually put Bowdoin first. Well you pay for them. So I think my bid on Bowdoin was 19. I put 22 on both of them. I actually put Bowdoin first. Well, you got them. That's a full PPR league? It is. Yeah, because based on what the Patriots did to Justin Herbert, I'm a little concerned about what they might do to Tua Tungabailoa.

The thing is, I think the Patriots will settle for those short passes to boden yeah so that could what i did may end up working against me because it's a full ppr league and boden could have seven eight receptions again but i wouldn't expect him to have a lot of yards that's the other thing too is like the davante parker is the guy they seem to be the most optimistic about possibly playing this week and parker playing with Grant and Gesicki both being out might be the best possible situation for Bowdoin. If the Patriots, clearly they're going to take Devontae Parker away, and then Bowdoin maybe gets a little less attention. It's going to be interesting.

He could get the Gilmore treatment and then that's it because they know that Tonga Vailoa doesn't like to take a lot of shots downfield. Although the last game and a half, he started to be a little more aggressive. He's come out of his shell. He did, and he actually said that too. And that's the thing. It's not just like a random turnaround for Tua.

He actually said during the second half of the game two weeks ago that he kind of started to feel comfortable again, you know? And so that was good to see. Yeah, you could tell. He's played well. Heath, for what it's worth, I put in a bid for us for Jeff Wilson of $4. We got him. And we got the Browns

DST. So I'm excited about that. And we are out of fab. So let's hope that we... You act like I don't pay attention to this league. Well, I made the moves at like 9.30, 10 o'clock last night. You were definitely sleeping. So I don't think you knew about them, at least when you went to bed.

All right, a few more news and notes here. It sounded like I said when you wet the bed, but I didn't. I said when you went to bed, ladies and gentlemen. You never know. Christian McCaffrey, unlikely to play. That stinks.

Henry Ruggs is on the reserve COVID list, so he is not going to play tomorrow night. Mike Williams and Keenan Allen were both limited in practice. They're playing Thursday. They were listed as limited in practice. They both have back issues. John Brown is off IR. That does not mean he's going to play.

We'll keep an eye on that. They have a Saturday game, Buffalo at Denver on Saturday. To clarify, John Brown was designated to return from IR. Thank you. He is still technically on IR and can stay in your IR spot in your lineup. And we won't know what his status is in practice because he's still technically in that designation. Noah Fant was designated to miss practice. I don't think they actually practiced, right?

There was an estimation. So they estimated that he would not have practiced. He has an illness. Brandon Cook's expected to play. That's great news. Matthew Stafford unlikely to play, and Alex Smith is trending in the right direction. We've got Week 15 tough calls.

When we come right back on Fantasy Football today, we'll talk about Terry McLaurin and Clyde Edwards-Elair and Deontay Johnson and Kyler Murray. Are they tough calls? Then we've got Dynasty running backs, Chargers, Raiders, fantasy cops, and your emails all right after this. Whether in the game or in life, the right coverage can make all the difference. Securian Canada gives you that coverage.

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not very predictable, and he's got the Jets, and he's Jared Goff. So I would say he is a tough call, at least in my opinion, he's a tough call. Dave Heath, agree? Jared Goff? He is a tough call. He's not a top 12 quarterback for me, but I still would consider him a very good streamer,

one of my favorite streamers of the week. And I think I'm going to take him in DFS too, just because of that matchup and because I think a lot of other people will be nervous to trust him in their tournament play. Seven of the last eight quarterbacks to take on the Jets, 22 or more fantasy points. That's the good news.

The bad news is that when this dude plays at home, he usually doesn't put up good numbers. I hate that that's a thing, but it's a thing. But the reality is that he just hasn't been consistently good. I think it's six of eight games with 20 or fewer fantasy points yeah it's um they are and we've seen it with cam acres the past two weeks 50 rush attempts over his past two games um they have a history when that they are playing a team that's not very good offensively. They're just not throwing the ball very much. He's had a couple of games this season where they were playing from behind or in a shootout,

and he threw 51 passes against Tampa Bay and 61 against the Dolphins and 47 against Arizona. But most every game besides that's 32 or fewer. Last week they played the Patriots and just dominated them, and he threw 25 passes. So he's a high-end number two. I do think he is a tough call, but I'm probably not starting him. I'd rather start Mitchell Trubisky.

So they've got four wins this year in kind of blowout fashion. They beat the Eagles, Washington, Chicago, and the Patriots by 14 or more points. He threw 27, 30, 33, and 25 passes in those games. So 25 to 33 passes. He scored 29, 28, 20, and 16 points. So he had three good games. Well, he had two great games.

He had one 20-point game which is not going to cut it, and a 16-point game. The problem is he's had some rushing touchdowns this year, and that's really helped him. He had it last week. The game against Washington, I think it was. Yeah, he scored 28 points on 30 pass attempts. He had a

rushing touchdown. So if you take that out, then you look at the four blowout wins and it's 29 points, 22 points instead of 28, 20 and 16. Is it fair to take away a rushing touchdown? I don't know. From a guy like Jared Goff, I mean, I feel like you really want to just focus

on his passing stats. But the Jets are just so bad. However, there's only been one quarterback that's done well against the Jets with fewer than 30 passes. That was Wilson last week. So, all right, would you start the streamers over Goff? Would you start Trubisky and Hertz over Goff?

I don't have it that way as of now. I may change my mind, but I guess I could say... I don't even know if I could say that the upside with Trubisky and Hertz is better than Goff's upside because Goff, I think

he realistically has three touchdown upside, even if he doesn't throw more than 33 passes because you can get away with some big plays against the Jets secondary. They're terrible. Awful. Awful. Heath, you said you have Trubisky and Hurts ahead of him. Trubisky. I don't currently have

Hurts, but he's right in the same range. I've got him ahead of Roethlisberger right now, too. I think you could just say the Steelers are a tough call. You love the matchup, but you don't love what they're doing lately. We got Dante Johnson later in this segment. Kyler Murray against the Eagles. That one's easier.

Why? Yeah, this is one, I think, where my suggestion that I forgot to give when I said I had a comment in the suggestion earlier in the show because I saw this list and I saw Kyler Murray on it. And I just think, and I know often our rankings are not updated, and so it makes your job more difficult, and I apologize for that. But if you look at a quarterback and he's in our top five across the board, I don't think he's a tough goal.

I don't think he should be in your top five. Kyler isn't in our top five. He's not in our... Kyler isn't in our top five. He's not in your top five? Nope. Okay, he's in Jamie and I's top five. I apologize. Yeah, you both have him fifth. Dave has him ninth.

Well, why the confidence? They had the ball for almost 38 minutes. They ran 79 plays or 78 plays. And he scored 19 points last week. He should have, you know, he came very close to having a second touchdown. Uh,

but I don't know. He had his second lowest data last week. He's just either incapable or choosing not to, but not throwing the ball downfield. Only thing that worried me about Kyler Murray was the fact that he had stopped running so much because he has not been successful this year based on his arm. He has been a, an elite fantasy quarterback because of his rushing production. And he ran 13 times last week.

Now it may have been 10 and three of those were Neal's or something, but he had 13 rush attempts. Yeah. He was averaging 10 per game before he hurt his shoulder against the Seahawks in week 11. He had three straight weeks with five rush attempts. He was mostly terrible for fantasy. Last week he was running again.

It came after a week in which, for the first time since he hurt his shoulder, he had a full week of full practices. No limited participation. My assumption is that Kyler Murray is okay now. I am starting Kyler Murray because when he's been okay, he's been one of the best quarterbacks in fantasy. Even without any throws downfield?

Because, I mean, he was getting the Christian Kirk touchdowns and some deep balls to DeAndre every now and then, and that's just not happening. You know? Dave, you have ninth. I think he

should have had a better game than he actually had last week. I'm also encouraged by the rushing. I'm still discouraged by the lack of downfield passing. I'm okay starting him this week, and I'm going to miss starting him. I had him in a league. I lost in that playoff. This has nothing

to do with Kyler Murray and his status for this week, but I think Philadelphia's secondary being as banged up as it is will make it easier for him. He'll certainly make it easier at the very least for his receivers to make plays after the catch. And that's pretty much what their passing game is based on right now. It's lucky throws to Dan Arnold and having Hopkins and Fitzgerald make plays after the catch. Okay. Because he's not, I don't know why. He's just not getting targets very often.

Sad. Okay. So yeah, I think the key thing there that Dave mentioned is the Eagles secondary could be without three starters. It will certainly be without two starters. Maybe Darius Slay on top of that. That's a big deal. Kareem Hunt. I'm going to lump these running backs together.

Kareem Hunt, Clyde Edwards-Ziller, and Ezekiel Elliott. Hunt is at the Giants. They give up the second most receiving yards to running backs. Clyde Edwards-Ziller is at New Orleans with their excellent, excellent run defense. And Ezekiel Elliott against San Francisco. Heath, are they tough calls?

Hunt, CEH, and Elliott? Yeah. I have one league. I mean, I've obviously got a lot of Kareem Hunt. I've got one league where I'm sitting him for Jonathan Taylor and Cam Akers. But for the most part, he's my favorite guy on this list. This sets up to be a pretty good game script

for the Giants to just run the ball 75 times and Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt can both be awesome. For the Browns too. Browns, yes. So I'm mostly starting Kareem Hunt as a top 20 running back. Zeke and Clyde Edward Solaire, it's solely dependent on do you have better options? There's not currently anyone available on the waiver wire who i would start over them but if raheem mostert was out i would start jeff wilson over both of them that's probably the only one i'm probably not going to benny snell or philip lindsey over clyde edwards hilaire and zekiel elliott so it's going to depend on who you had on your bench i think you can make a good argument for starting most of the rookie

running backs now over them. Clyde is a rookie. I think you can make a good argument for starting JD McKissick and full PPR over them. I think you can make an argument for starting Wayne Goldman over them. How about Dobbins? I can't because I don't feel confident that Dobins is going to get more than 12 or 13 touches i could see baltimore just running like crazy on jacksonville oh i could too that could help

jk dobbins who like it's been a little fluky how he's put up his numbers the last couple of weeks and certainly touchdown dependent but he's done it and if he was able to do that in the previous two games, I'd like to think he's got a chance to score a touchdown on Jacksonville. So I don't mind starting him over Hunt or Zeke. I'm kind of encouraged by Edward Zolaire and the targets and catches he had last week against Miami. And I'm kind of hoping that the Saints play them the same way defensively, and that will maybe lead to more checkdowns.

That's how you can negate the pass rush for the Saints, by throwing these little short passes to Edward DeLair. And he was getting involved early in the game, and he looked okay on those receptions too. So he's my favorite of the three. There's no probably about it. Zeke is the one I'm the most worried about. He's your favorite of the three over Kare no probably about it. Zeke is the one I'm the most worried about. He's your favorite of the three over Kareem Hunt, huh?

Because this is the Saints. This is the team. I think they give up the fewest points to running backs here. I know. Okay. I'm curious, and I don't have it here. Kareem Hunt with Nick Chubb. Do we think he's been better per game than Clyde Edwards-Hilaire? Yes.

We could do the math real quick. I think probably very similar. I would guess that before week 14, the answer was no. And after week 14, the answer is yes. Well, no, because before Chubb got hurt, Hunt was a top seven running back. He'd really just been bad with Chubb in the few weeks before last week and since Chubb came back. Right. I remember doing the math a few weeks ago and

his points per game in games with Nick Chubb was right around RB15. He's tied at that point was tied with like Miles Sanders. Clides around RB20? No, I think 16. If you take out the game. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so I think pretty close and he had three kind of bad games in a row, but such a good game last week with 28 PPR fantasy points. I'm getting, it's probably pretty close,

but that way he averaged over 12 non PPR points in the games with Chubb. So far this season, I think the question I have with Hunt is, look at the carries the last four games. Forget about the six against Baltimore. Baker Mayfield threw the ball a ton. 13, 10, 14. So is he going to be in that 10 to 14 range?

And in those games, he really didn't catch the ball. He had four catches in those three games. If he gets 15 touches and 12 of the 13 of them are carries against the Giants, is he going to have a good game? Does he score a touchdown? When you start saying those numbers, it's like, that sounds a lot like what Clyde Edwards-Hiller is probably going

to get. Yeah, I'd rather go up against the Giants than the Saints. That's the way I feel about it. Okay, and then how about Terry McLaurin, Deontay Johnson, Tyler Lockett? If you have faith then how about Terry McLaurin, Deontay Johnson, Tyler Lockett? Do you have faith in these guys? McLaurin against Seattle. Seattle has not given up a touchdown to a

wide receiver in their last five games. Only Josh Reynolds has more than 62 yards. Now, they've faced some lousy teams and quarterbacks, but they also did well against Woods, Cup, Kirk, and Hopkins. Deontay Johnson's at Cincinnati. They're only 14th.

They're 14th against wide receivers. And Tyler Lockett's at Washington. So, Dave, do you have faith in McLaurin, Deontay, or Lockett this week? I don't have a lot of faith in any of them. Do I have number two wide receiver faith in any of them? I may have it in McLaurin. I would like McLaurin better if Dwayne Haskins plays, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen.

It's going to be Alex Smith. That worries me a little bit. So McLaurin would drop from where I have him now in my rankings. He's already outside of my top 15. He'd probably be on the precipice of a top 24 wide receiver. Lockett has been very frustrating. There's so much downside and we've we've all been witness to it for the past several weeks i feel like a big game's coming i have a

hard time believing it's going to be against this defense washington's been really good and this this feels like a tough spot for seattle's offense to be in with that pass rush being as good as it is for washington and then you've got Deontay Johnson, who had all those terrible drops early in the game last week, got benched, and then they let him back in the game. And so I wonder if they're going to say, all right, Deontay, clean slate coming into this matchup, but if you drop

another pass, you know what's going to happen. So don't drop any more passes. There will be too many. He's probably going to. Yeah, it's quite a risk. And that's why I think fantasy managers probably are not going to. Yeah, it's quite a risk. And that's why I think fantasy managers probably are not going to use Deontay Johnson. But it's a good matchup against Cincinnati. I think Roethlisberger still wants to connect with him.

It almost feels like they're trying to limit Claypool. The way that his targets have gone down and Mike Tomlin saying, well, we don't want him to hit a rookie wall. So we're just going to lower his snaps. Now. I don't even know what that means. I think it means he's already hit the rookie wall. And so that I think,

I think they're kind of forced to try and make it work with Deontay Johnson from the jump. I will say a couple of things. One, I'm just starting Tyler lockett as a number two wide receiver i'm not sitting tyler lockett um and i understand why some people might but i'm not i'm not sitting that type of upside um i'm like mclaurin is a borderline number two i don't know that i really feel confident that duanene Haskins is actually better for him than Alex

Smith. I'm probably just, he's a, if he's, if I don't have two guys better than him, I don't agree with the idea that the Steelers just have to force the ball to Deontay Johnson. They could throw it to one of the other seven players on their team that is more efficient on a per target basis than Deontay Johnson. They could just treat Juju Smith Schuster like a number one wide receiver. Um, but that's what they're doing, and so it doesn't really matter. In PPR, I'm probably starting Deontay Johnson. In non-PPR, I'm probably not. I think if you view him as a flex, that's the expectation for him.

I think he'll be okay. And I think you have to do the same thing with Lockett. I get it with Lockett. You know what the upside is, Heath, and why you're starting him as a number two receiver. But to me, Johnson and lockett are kind of the same they both have terrible floors but at least with johnson you know that the targets will be there assuming he doesn't make mistakes but you said they both have terrible floors deontay

johnson doesn't have 150 yard two touchdown upside well yeah but he does have like we don't see that very right he's got a more consistent upside if you just like he's got a ton of games this year with 12 to 20 ppr points yeah he's got more catch upside than lockett 12 does it like like we can't say upside as a flex it is no it's not a lot of upside but i think there's a more realistic chance of Deontay Johnson falling between 15 to 20 PPR points than there is of Tyler Lockett coming up with 25 PPR points. Yeah, there's no question Johnson has a lower floor because his floor is getting benched.

Which may or may not be that much worse than what we're getting from Tyler Lockett. It's worse. I mean, Tyler Lockett has one game with fewer than 10 PPR points in his last five. Johnson has, yeah, one in his last six, and it was last week. Right.

I'm just saying, like, Tyler Lockett's floor is not similar to getting benched. No. Well, yeah. No, it's not. Okay. That's it for the tough calls. More on those players throughout the week.

We've got a lot more to get to here, so let's go to our dynasty running back segment, which of course I'm unfortunately going to have to cut a little bit short. But I asked you guys for risers and fallers. And why don't we do Heath's risers and Dave's fallers. So Heath, your running back dynasty risers are Ronald Jones and James Robinson from the Sunshine State. All right.

So how much are you buying into them long term? Ronald Jones and James Robinson. I think you can look at Ronald Jones now and coming into the year. He was right around 30. I believe in my dynasty running back rankings still very young. He'll just be 24 years old entering next season. Feels like he's been around forever. I think you can look at him as a um a high-end number two dynasty

running back uh there's there are not more than maybe 16 or 17 running backs that i feel really confident have more than a one or two year window um and i think like you can look to guys like who were in my followers james connor and chris cars, as to why I would say that. But Jones, I would expect next year is going to be ranked inside the top 15 and he's 24 years old pinky thing that he's dealing with right now. He's got to have a couple of strong games, and then he's got to be strong for Tampa Bay in the playoffs too. And if all that happens, then I'm with you. But if he doesn't do that, then I'm worried that the Bucs will try and do everything they can to replace him again. Yeah, it's a tough call. Plus, you know know the offense could look different i assume brady's gonna be back but yeah i mean let's put it this way i wouldn't would you give up a first round pick to have ronald jones on your dynasty team right now um in the playoffs right now you can

make the trade right now i'm in the final four four, though. I'm playing. Right. So you can have Ronald Jones now and forever. 100%. Yeah. But you'd have to give up your first round pick. Yeah. But no, but you're right. It's not right. It's no better than number nine.

Right. Yeah. I don't know. I'm saying no to that. I think I'm saying no to that, too. The problem is that if the scenario that I laid out comes to pass where he does play well down the stretch, that'll be a bargain. If he gives you two good games

and you win a championship, it was worth your 12th overall pick. Well, he may not play this week, though. Right. We don't know if he's going to play this week, and we don't know how he'll be when he does come back. I just... His career has been such an adventure that I don't know how he'll be when he does come back. I just, I it's his career has been such an adventure that I,

I don't feel good saying that he's a bonafide number two superstar wide receiver. I don't think he's a couple of years. Well, you said he was a high end number two running back, not receiver. I don't know why I said receiver. Yeah.

I'm not sure either. I thought you were a receiver in any way. But you called him a high-end number two running back. That's really what I should have said. I think that that's just a little too high at this point. I have trust issues here, I guess, is what it comes down to. Okay, how about James Robinson? Is anybody worried about him being a one-year wonder?

It's possible yeah um but again i think there's a most of the running backs outside of the top 15 and you could make the argument for some of the running backs in the top 15 that you could have worries that they've only got one year left where i think is unlikely is that someone goes into this situation in jack Jacksonville with all of the problems that they have and looks at this running back who is dirt cheap and as an undrafted free agent just had the best season ever for an undrafted free agent and says well first thing we need to do is get a running back you've got a running that's the last thing you need to do um so i i view robinson in a similar range to where ronald jones is i would prefer robinson to ronald jones um obviously the beginning of the year he was nowhere near the uh the top 50 dynasty running backs so it's he's the

biggest riser he's the biggest riser not only would the biggest riser. Not only would I easily give up a first-round pick for him right now using the same scenario that we had for Ronald Jones, but I don't think the person who had James Robinson would give him to me for just one first-round pick. I agree with you completely. He's going to be good for hopefully five years, but let's play it safe and say the next year. I think in talking about his value

in relation to first-round picks, if you were a team that was in the playoffs but had somebody else's first-round picks, I wouldn't give up a top three pick for James Robinson. Nope. I probably wouldn't give up a top six pick for James Robinson. He'd be right in that seven to nine range, I think. I can't make a call on that because I'm not sure how great this upcoming class is going to be.

I know that there's a couple of running backs and a really cool tight end and a bunch of really good receivers coming out. I'm probably not going to give up a six or a seven either, but a late one won't get it done. And a late one plus a 2022 first round pick probably would get it done but it probably wouldn't be something you'd want to do i think it's interesting to look at robinson in comparison to all of like is he still behind all the elite rookie running backs we were excited about coming into this year oh they're they're such a jumble. I mean, is he behind Edward Z. Lair?

He's behind Taylor. Yes. For me, he's behind Dobbins. I have him two spots behind Dobbins. I think I'd have him behind Akers as well. Swift? I don't know. Gibson?

He's behind Gibson. I love Gibson. See, I think I'd have him ahead of Gibson. Interesting. So much of this is determined by what your perception of the player was prior to their... Some of these guys have had like three good weeks. Yeah. James Robinson's had an incredible season. Right.

He also has a lot of catches. Keep in mind, though, he's probably going to have Justin Fields as his quarterback next year. That's probably going to hurt his receiving totals, but it might just make their offense a lot better. Maybe mobile quarterback helps you run, hurts the passing game stats, the receiving for the running back. The most running back catches on Ohio State this year would be three,

but it's only in five games. J.K. Dobbins had 23 last year. Alright, we'll do the fallers later if we have time. We gotta get to the game. Los Angeles Chargers at the Las Vegas Raiders. Dave, it's Thursday Night Football! Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Stat of the game. Let's do two stats of the game comparing the running backs

in these games. But they're both starts. Eckler and Jacobs. Running backs against Las Vegas. A running back has scored 13 or more non-PPR, 15 or more PPR fantasy points in five of the last six games against the Raiders. They are Kalen Balazs, CEH, Ito Smith,

Ty Johnson, and Jonathan Taylor. So Eckler is awesome, and you will start him, no questions. Jacobs, I'm assuming you guys feel the same way. Jamie absolutely obliterated me for this stat last night on Twitch.

I took his fantasy points in games that he did not score a touchdown. Oh my gosh. And if you just look at what he does when he doesn't score, he's not a top 40 running back compared to everyone else.

When of course I am counting the touchdowns for everyone else. But my long-winded point was saying, Jacobs hasn't really had that great of a year. He doesn't catch that many passes. His yards usually aren't great. But he does. So when he doesn't score, he's been touchdown dependent. That's kind of my point on Jacobs.

But do you have any issues with Josh Jacobs this week against a terrible run defense? No, because of the terrible run defense and for all the, you know, concern about how healthy is he and is he even going to play? I thought he looked good last week.

I just wish he had more work. I don't like that he's not getting that workhorse role. You want to talk about a fantasy bust, maybe Jacobs should be considered among the fantasy busts this year because he hasn't been what we thought he would be as a top 10 type of pick. He hasn't delivered that. He only has four games with over 100 yards this season.

But it's the Chargers. It's a run defense that on paper isn't very good um and it's a short week and like jacobs has been the number 11 running back in fantasy is that really true he is 10th and non-13th in ppr okay so he's not even in the bus conversation no but i feel the same way but i think that's just because I really loved him and I thought he was going to take a huge step up, and he's just been solid. He hasn't had a breakout year, unfortunately.

But just for this week, is he a top 12 guy? Not for me. He's outside of that. I think I have him just outside of the top 12. 12. of that i think i have him just outside of the top 12 um 12 so uh would you start david montgomery over josh jacobs yes would would you start uh miles sanders over him also yes nope no for heath yes i would not how about cam acres or josh jacobs acres yep okay all right uh then let's go okay so How about Cam Akers or Josh Jacobs? Akers. Yep. Okay. All right. Then let's go. Okay. So how much faith do you have in Justin Herbert?

You know, he is not throwing the ball downfield lately since Eckler's come back. He hasn't been very good. How much faith? I think part of the reason why he's not throwing the ball downfield is because his offensive line stinks. And last week they were Atlanta came at him a ton, so he had to get rid of the ball quickly. I think there were probably more than three throws downfield that he had, but the three that I remember, two of them were really good.

So he can still do that. He just needs time. How much faith do you have in him, though? I think he's a top-12 quarterback because the Raiders' pass rush isn't really that good. They've got big guys up front not necessarily explosive guys so i i think he'll have a little bit more time i think he'll be able to challenge downfield a little bit more um to dave's point justin herbert has been pressured on 27.7 percent of his dropbacks which is tied with carson wince for the fourth highest mark in the NFL. I agree. He's a low-end top 12 quarterback.

I would not start Trubisky or Hertz over him. So that's like he's, you're probably starting him. He's going ahead of Goff too. He's going ahead of Roethlisberger. It is a little concerning that last three games, under 20 fantasy points in each, and Austin Eckler's back. Yeah, and he just faced the Falcons last week. My goodness.

And plus, obviously, if Keenan Allen doesn't play, it's a different story, but we'll keep an eye on those injuries, get you updated on that tomorrow. Would you start Derek Carr in this game over Justin Herbert? No. No, but I have them very, very close, and I noticed that I was like the high guy on card. I'm not really sure why he's not a borderline starter.

He's got 27 fantasy points in three of his past four games, and he's been a top 12 quarterback this season, and he's facing the Chargers. The question I have is how much throwing will he need to do? What kind of game do you anticipate here? Because if they just pound the rock with Josh Jacobs and he throws 25 times, that's going to be bad. But basically what we've seen is other than a dud at Atlanta,

when he's had to throw, he's been pretty damn good. Cursing. Pretty darn good. Pretty darn tootin' good, if I may say so. Put the red E on this episode. But no, seriously, let mean, let's give him some credit. He's had six games with more than 32 pass attempts, Derek

Carr, and he scored 22 or more points in five of those six games and 27 or more in half of those games. That's really good. So, yeah, I don't know. Heath ended up with him at 11. Dave and Jamie have him like 18th or 19th. Any final thoughts here?

Why do you hate Derek Carr, Dave? I like a lot of other quarterbacks. I'm worried about that upside. I think defenses can play the Raiders differently with Henry Ruggs not on the field. And that's going to be the case this week because Ruggs is on the COVID list. But it's crazy because I do like Agu agalor of course i like waller and i'm not in love with josh jacobs so maybe this is one

i need to revisit a little bit but having the confidence to start him over trubisky hurts goff it doesn't sound like much right it really doesn't sound like much to put him ahead of those guys against the chargers but the Chargers have held quarterbacks to low numbers for whatever reason. Maybe it's because they've taken on sloppy quarterbacks. Matt Ryan last week is a good example of that. I think it's because their run defense is so bad. Well, sure.

That's part of it, too. They haven't allowed a touchdown to a running back in the last three weeks, though. But look who they played. Buffalo, New it, too. They haven't allowed a touchdown to a running back in the last three weeks, though. But look who they played. Buffalo, New England, Atlanta. But, okay. They faced one top 12 quarterback. How did Josh Allen do against them?

That's the one. Okay. 17 points. 17 points. He was not good. Basically, since week five. 17 points. 17 points. He was not good. Basically since week 5. You know who else they played in that stretch?

They played Derek Carr. And he only threw 23 times. But he scored 17 fantasy points. That was part of that three-week run of three straight wins for the Raiders. He was terrible. He only threw 23-25 times in each game.

And their defense has been so bad lately that I feel like the Chargers should put up some more points. But the Chargers' offense hasn't been very good lately. So it might come down to pass attempts, as it often does. All right, the wide receivers, Keenan Allen is a must-start. He's been below 60 yards in four of his last five games. Any concerns? Start him. Okay. Starters to Mike Williams if he plays? No. Can't trust him. And Nelson Aguilar

is what this week? Very close to a number two receiver. Just outside. Very, very good flex. Yep. Very good flex. And you might be able to make the case for Mike Williams in the same spot as that, because that defense is so terrible. But I think there's trust issues there. I've got trust issues with Carr. I'm definitely going to have trust issues

with Mike Williams. Are you going to start Nelson Aguilar over Zeke Clyde Edwards-Ziller? No. Yeah. PPR, yeah. How about over Cole Beasley? I have it that way as of now.

What'd you say, Heath? Is John Brown playing? We won't know. It's a Thursday game. You gotta gamble. Yeah, unless I hear some report that John Brown is expected to play, I'm probably just gonna stick it out

and wait for Beasley. All righty. And then Darren Waller is a must-start. What about Hunter Henry? And before we get to Hunter Henry, how about Hunter Renfro with Henry Ruggs out? Do you see sleeper appeal for Hunter Renfro? You can DFS him.

I think it's important to recognize Henry Ruggs' impact on the receivers and derrick carr can only be so big when he's getting three targets per game yeah it's not like there's a lot to redistribute here yeah okay so then hunter henry start or sit i'm starting him mostly it's simply because he's a tight end who gets targets and isn't an offense that should throw the ball well in a favorable matchup there's really not a whole lot else they're really not that bad like kelsey has killed them other than that you know gronk had a big game henry didn't fant didn't they both had seven targets hayden hearst had four for 48 on eight

targets like they're not this actually surprisingly the raiders are not that bad against titans yeah they're only one defense other than they are yeah they're a bad defense henry's gotten at least six targets in five of his past six games got beat up a little bit and missed some time last week but he came back in i i think you if you've been riding Henry all along, I don't know if you're going to be able to make the call on Irv Smith versus Hunter Henry, for example. What if Rudolph doesn't practice

on Thursday and then he's out there on Friday and that spoils Irv Smith's upside? I'm not going to trust Cole Komet. How about Eric Ebron or Henry? I think I have Ebron higher. You do.

How about Rob Gronkowski or Derek Henry? Or Hunter Henry? I have Henry higher than Gronk by a spot. Okay. Alright then. That's going to do it for this game. I probably shouldn't. I think it's going to be a riveting game because the

only player that I personally well too I guesseting game because the only player that I personally... Well, two, I guess. Waller. The only players that I feel like are slam dunks are Eckler and Waller. I mean, Keenan Allen, you have to start, but he's just been a little shaky lately and he's kind of injured.

But I just think there's so much up in the air. I could see this game going so many different directions and I'm really looking forward. I think it's going to be a real fun way to start out week 15. All right. That was fun. Dave, you want to get the outro music for Thursday Night Football?

Na, na, na, na, na, na. Right into the intro music for the Fantasy Cops. All right. Here we go. First one is from Tim in Myrtle Beach. He says, cheers or cheerio, Boris, Winston, and David. Those would be prime ministers. No, that was kind of an Aussie accent there.

Sorry, prime ministers. There we go. I play in a dynasty league where the last place team gets a very unique punishment. Every Sunday during the next season, from kickoff of the first game until halftime of the night game, the loser has to wear whatever humiliating costume the league chooses for him. If the person refuses, the league votes and removes the fifth best player from their roster, and they go into the waiver pool. If it happens a second time, the fourth best player is chosen, and so on.

In five years, we've never had a refusal other than one exception we gave for a funeral. Our commissioner was the big loser last year. This past week, he was supposed to dress as a French maid, but he refused because he was meeting his girlfriend's parents for the first time. We voted and we want to remove DeAndre Swift from his team, but he's crying that Swift is better than his fifth best player. He has Keenan Allen, Josh Allen, Clyde Edwards-Ziller, and Stefan Diggs that we decided were ahead of DeAndre Swift.

Were we wrong in our evaluation? And even if we were, should it matter? He refused the costume, so I think he should deal with the consequences. And in return for settling this debate, what would you like us to make him wear this week? Oh, that's awesome. Okay, so he didn't dress up

as a French maid. They took out his fifth best player. They deemed that to be Swift. And they put Swift behind Keenan Allen, Josh Allen, CEH, and Diggs. This is a dynasty league. Did they make the right decision? No. Who should they choose? I'm not sure it matters, but DeAndre Swift Did they make the right decision? No. Who's fifth?

I'm not sure it matters, but DeAndre Swift might be first. Second, Brian Diggs. Who's fifth? Is it Keenan Allen by default? Is it Josh Allen by default? I'd probably go Diggs. Dynasty League. Diggs, Swift, Clyde. vault i'd probably go digs dynasty league digs swift clyde yeah those three for sure alan keenan this is josh and keenan so you think keenan allen is probably the fifth best here that's what's that what does the Dynasty trade chart say? Who's got the lowest value on that? That's what I would use.

I don't. When you update it next, that's when we'll know. I think the bigger issue is if this girlfriend's parents that he's meeting, if this is an important meeting that might impact him the rest of his life, as in he really thinks he might marry this girl, then I'm thinking an exception should be made. However, in he really thinks he might marry this girl, then I'm thinking an exception should be made. However, if he ends up breaking up with the girl, then he needs to make amends for not wearing the costume,

and he should have to wear two costumes for breaking up with the girl in exchange. That would be the rule that I would make. And if she dumps him, then he gets the Andre Swift back. Or Keenan Allen. I think he should get an exception. He should get an exception for the week, or at least for the meeting of the parents.

Like in the morning, when he's doing his grocery shopping. Here's the thing, though. He's got to wear the French maid costume. It's week 14, or 13, maybe, when this email came in. This is not a surprise that you're going to have to wear something humiliating all day on Sunday. You've had to wear something humiliating every Sunday for the past three months. Why did you schedule a meeting with the parents on a Sunday?

There you go. So he's got to pretend to be sick and call out of this meeting. I didn't understand. He says every Sunday during the next season. Okay, yeah, all right. So every single Sunday. So, right, every Sunday. You know, if your girlfriend loved you,

she wouldn't make you meet her parents Sunday during Fantasy Week 15. I mean, come on. I'm just going to say this, and this is going to make me a bad fantasy manager, but if I finish last in this league, I might just quit the league. This is a great league.

I might just quit the league. That's sad. All right, let's go to our next one. By the way, the costume you should wear is a garbage bag with the butt cut out in the back and holes for the nipples. All right.

This is from Robert. Our league ran into an issue this week. It may have to do with our platform settings. Six teams make the playoffs. Two teams had a bye this week. By the way, this is not a CBS league. Six teams make the playoffs. Two teams had a bye.

The seeding is now showing the one versus the three because the three defeated the six and the two versus the five, which defeated the four. The two seed has the weakest of the three, because the three defeated the six, and the two versus the five, which defeated the four. The two seed has the weakest of the remaining teams, and the three seed is unhappy. The three seed is arguing that all brackets should default to one versus four or five,

and two versus three or six. I don't get that. Please help us decide if we should be altering the seeding. The fate of the league hangs in the balance. Is there a standard way we should be looking at this? Nobody realized this until the week started. When the NFL has its playoffs, the bottom seed always takes on

the highest possible seed in a given week. So this year, the number seven seed will take on the two seed. If the seven seed wins, that team is guaranteed to take on the one seed the following week. I recommend fantasy leagues do the exact same thing. Yeah.

So that's what I do. I recede. Right. The ones in this case, the one seed should be playing the five. And so you should be playing. That's my preferred way of doing it. Although I'm in a league for the first time this year,

that the top seed each round gets to choose who they play. And I, it's kind of fun. Yeah. Oh, that is cool. That was a baseball proposed doing something like that. MLB.

Or you could like... Then it was fun, so they didn't... I don't remember exactly what happened. Yeah, kind of. All right. That's it for the Fantasy Cops. Thanks a lot for your questions at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. We got five minutes for emails, guys.

Here we go. This one is from Joey. This is an interesting one. Joey is a Chiefs homer, and he says, if Kansas City wins this week at New Orleans, then the Week 16 game versus the Falcons is completely meaningless, because due to tiebreakers versus Pittsburgh, losses versus conference opponents, etc. But regardless of those two games, even if Kansas City wins them both and Pittsburgh keeps winning, they must beat the Chargers in Week 17 to get the one seed.

So, Joey thinks that they might rest their starters in Week 16 and bring them back in Week 17. Do you think that's realistic? It's possible. If that's really the case that it comes down to. We've seen Andy Reid rest his guys pretty much every year

that he's had the chance to. But not week 16. I can't see that happening. That's so strange. It's such a weird circumstance where that would have to be the case. I'm not quite sure of the math on that one. Well, because they're a game up on the Steelers. And since week 16, let's say both teams win this week,

they're still a game up on the Steelers, but they have the tiebreaker on the Steelers. So week 16 is not a conference game and therefore wouldn't change any of the tiebreaker scenarios against Pittsburgh. That's what our emailers are saying here. If they win the game in week 16, do they lock up the one seed no matter what? No. Not if the Steelers win.

Actually, you would think so, right? I don't know. Alright, you know what? I'm done. They're a game up on the Steelers. If they lose to the Chargers, then they'll lose the tiebreaker in Week 17. So unless the Steelers lose, and the Steelers could very easily lose to the Colts in Week 16. And that would change automatically.

But I think we'll worry about this after the game against the Saints. But it's possible. I just don't see them resting starters. That is so weird. They can't rest starters in week 16. They have a chance to close them out. If the Steelers. The Steelers are going to be playing at the same time.

They're basically going to say. All right. We don't care what the Steelers do in week 16. Right. That would be. God forbid they rest their guys in week 16. And the Steelers lose. And now they've got to play in week 17.

And Bosa concusses Patrick Mahomes on the first play of the game in week 17. All right. Why would you say that? We're moving on. We're moving on. Move on. This is from Matt Colliff.

Dear Homestar, Strong Bad, Bubz, and the Poopsmith. Yes, it's a throwback to my high school days. Good stuff. Who should I bench? What is it? That is Homestar Runner, Strong Bad. I think it was called Homestar Runner. I've never heard of that in my life.

It's really funny. Strong Bad was a very, very funny thing. All right. Who should I bench? Bench a running back. Robinson, Eckler, Chubb. Really? Robinson.

I think it's Robinson. Robinson. Bench a wide receiver Ridley Adams Jefferson I think that's Jefferson now start Robinson or Jefferson half PPR probably go back to Robinson yeah all right

from Carl wide receiver in a flex spot spot start to Michael Thomas Tyler Lockett Terry McLaurin All right. From Carl, wide receiver in a flex spot. Start two. Michael Thomas, Tyler Lockett, Terry McLaurin. I'm sitting McLaurin. Oh, no, no, no. I'm sorry. Pick one of them. My bad.

Thomas. Thomas. Okay, now pick a flex. Carson, Lockett, McLaurin, Mike Davis. Mike Davis. I'm probably going to pick Davis. It came down to Davis and Carson for me. From Matthias.

Can't express how much I love the show. I won my league when you guys recommended a player who exploded for 40 points in the championship round. I don't know. Who could that be? Schrager, who scored 40 points last year in week 16? Not Mike Boone. Not Mike Boone.

Damn, Mike Boone. See if you can figure it out again um all right kirk christian or i'm sorry kirk cousins or tasem hill i like hill yeah hill choose three metcalf jefferson ridley dionte johnson uh daniel jones might have been the guy that scored 40 in week 14 wow 16 last year interesting really cool i'd say deontay johnson i didn't hear the question i was googling just deontay johnson uh herbert or tannahill tannahill uh ryan fitzpatrick also scored 39.7 last year in week 16 maybe um memories herbert or

tannahill you know all right i think we're gonna have to go with we're gonna have to end it there thank you for the email uh from can i just give a real quick answer on this from andy when looking at matchups this time of year how much is the analysis weighing season-long results versus the last two or three or four weeks i'm strictly the last two or three or four weeks? I'm strictly the last two or three or four weeks. And that's where we end up disagreeing a lot. And I like to look at, like, actually, we just talked about it with the Raiders' pass defense. It's like, you look at the last three or four weeks,

but you also have to factor in who have they played. If they haven't played any good opponents in the last three or four weeks, like Seattle facing the Giants and the Jets the last two weeks, last two weeks something like that then you know it doesn't count as much and i would just reiterate that i'm only looking at the outliers um 24 of the 30 teams i don't really consider as a matchup factor oh interesting i actually knew that uh from ryan josh jacobs miles sanders david montgomery and mike davis pick two jacobs sanders montgomery davis From Ryan, Josh Jacobs, Miles Sanders, David Montgomery, and Mike Davis. Pick two.

Jacobs, Sanders, Montgomery, Davis. Davis and Montgomery. Yeah. It's hilarious. I mean, it's right, but it's just hilarious at this time of year we're going through. And finally, from Matt in NorCal, pick three in PPR. James Robinson David Montgomery

Kenyon Drake and Jarvis Landry PS Die Hard is not a Christmas movie it takes place at Christmas time not a Christmas movie anyway pick three Robinson Montgomery

Kenyon Drake Jarvis Landry the running backs yeah okay and you're right about Die Hard and so is Barack Obama even he said

Die Hard's not a Christmas movie so what did the guy who wrote Die Hard say? He said he didn't think it was a Christmas movie until he saw the set. So that to me tells me that the set designer thinks it's a Christmas movie, not the writer. But the writer did say it's a Christmas movie. Tough argument to make.

Go watch some Strong Bad, ladies and gentlemen. And thank you for listening to Fantasy Football Today. We'll be back tomorrow with Starter Sit for the AFC Home Games.