Fantasy Football Today - Biggest Fantasy Football Rankings Risers & Fallers After Free Agency (03/25 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 25, 2026

We break down the biggest fantasy football risers and fallers following the latest NFL moves, starting with Brian Robinson Jr.’s impact in Atlanta (0:45) and the evolving backup situation behind Chr...istian McCaffrey (6:55). We also cover key quarterback storylines, including Joe Flacco staying in Cincinnati and Zach Wilson landing in New Orleans (8:13), plus early takes on Emeka Egbuka (8:55) and Chuba Hubbard (12:55). The episode dives into crowded backfields with Bhayshul Tuten (17:00), Jaylen Warren (21:10), and Jacory Croskey-Merritt (24:25), along with a QB value discussion around Malik Willis and Kyler Murray (27:55). We then shift to tight ends, analyzing Isaiah Likely (33:00), Kyle Pitts (39:02), before wrapping with wide receiver debates featuring Romeo Doubs and DK Metcalf (50:00). Finally, we close out with running back takeaways on Kenneth Walker and Emanuel Wilson (53:30), giving you everything you need to adjust rankings and stay ahead of early draft trends. Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:03 What a play! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. What has changed since the starter for agency? What has changed for our show for today? It's Fantasy Football Today.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Welcome to the show. I'm Jamie Eisenberg. That's Heath Cummings. That's Dave Richard. As you can see, no Adam Azer. He is getting ready for his trip to South Florida. He's going to join us live in studio on Thursdays. That's going to be a fun show.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Looking forward to seeing that. And hopefully stealing his wallet once again, for those people who don't listen to us for a long time. I'll have some fun with Adam in studio. But I have a fun show for you today. We're going to take a look at some of the rankings changes for us following free agency. But first, guys, I want to start with a news item from yesterday and maybe what could be a rankings debate already for who the number one overall pick is.
Starting point is 00:02:01 because Bijon Robinson got some company in Atlanta with Brian Robinson signing with the Falcons. So now we have the Tyler Alger replacement. And so I got this question yesterday from one of our editors who wanted us to write, it's one of me to write a story about the running back change in Atlanta or the addition in Atlanta. And is Bejohn Robinson the number one overall pick? And I think for me, I don't know about the two of you guys, Jemir Gibbs is still the number one overall pick. So I'll ask this question to you.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Now that we know who the backfield mates are in Atlanta and Detroit, with David Montgomery leaving me, I have Isaiah Pacheco now the new number two running back there for the Lions. And now we know that the most confusing situation in fantasy sports is make sure you click the right B. Robinson in your draft room, because Brian Robinson and Bijon Robinson are on the same team. How do we feel about the number one overall pick? Keith, I'll start with you. Who is number one overall for you?
Starting point is 00:02:59 PPR, half PPR, non-PPR, you can make the decision. Yeah, I probably wouldn't get too passionate debating either one of them. I think they're both good choices, but I'm going to stick with Gibbs. I think Brian Robinson's a little bit better, particularly in short yardage than Isaiah Pacheco is. That's not something Isaiah Pacheco was very good at, even when he had the lead job in Kansas City. So I think there's a little more risk there. There's probably a better offense in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:03:24 I think the more, like the really interesting thing is the problems we had with Tyler Alger in Atlanta, it's entirely new coaching stuff. They may not even want to distribute touches that way. And there's a new offensive coordinator in Detroit, too, but Dan Campbell's still there. Thankfully, the guy he loves and David Montgomery is not. I did think it was interesting thinking about what you said with Brian Robinson, like, who's the most likely of us to try to trade Brian Robinson to someone hoping they'll think it's Bejan?
Starting point is 00:03:55 I don't think he's on the show today. I'm with you. I think Jemir Gibbs is the number one. And it's, it's close. It makes me want to pick second overall this year. And just let whoever has the 101 in my fantasy draft, take whoever you want. I'll settle.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I'll settle for Bijan Robinson at number two or Gibbs. If you decide to take Bejohn. It's real close between the two of them. I just like the, I just like the offense a little bit better in Detroit. I think Gibbs, we've seen him without David Montgomery. And the upside is crazy. high. I don't think Isaiah Pacheco is going to take a lot of work away from him.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Just like I don't think Brian Robinson is going to take a lot of work away from Bejan Robinson. I'm not going to fault you if you like Bejohn better, but give me Jemir Gibbs. I just think he's got a little bit more to him, a little bit more of a ceiling with that same exact type of 20 p.pr point per game floor that Bejohn has. I think the interesting part of this is we don't know what life is like for a full season for Jamir Gibbs without David Montgomery. We have a sample size. There's six games in the last two years that Montgomery has missed.
Starting point is 00:05:01 In those six games, Gibbs has averaged over 25 ppr points per game. And in the four games that he missed in 2024, we saw Gibbs over 32 ppr points per game. He was an absolute monster. So we're hoping that that's going to be the guy that we see. But again, Pacheco could be that short-yardage guy. I think Heath is right. I don't think he's as good as Dave Montgomery and probably not as good as Brian Robinson. But he could be that guy.
Starting point is 00:05:25 and there is a new offensive coordinator for the Lions. Obviously, there's a new head coach for the Falcons. Now, Stifansky feels like when he's had two guys, he's wanted to use two guys. Now, he's never really had, well, I shouldn't say Nick Chubb wasn't as good as Bison. John Robinson. They're different. But he had a premier running back, but he still used two guys with Nick Chubb when he had Kareem Hunt in the successful part of that duo when they were together in Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:05:53 So it's going to be interesting to see. And plus there's also just the thing that it comes down to for me is we know what Detroit is, even with a new offense coordinator. And look, you know, changes on the offensive line. You know, they've lost a couple of guys, which is, you know, potentially a little nerve-wracking. Obviously, Atlanta's offensive line, I think, is rounding into shape and looking pretty good. But there's still some questions, you know, to a tongue of Iloa, is he going to be the starter? Is that a good thing for Bejan Robinson?
Starting point is 00:06:17 Is Michael Pennick's going to be the starter? Is he going to be healthy? What are they going to both the like in terms of the quarterbacks with a new coach? because we've never seen these guys play for Stefansky. So there's still questions. Obviously, you look at the year that Bejan just had, he was better than Gibbs by, you know, I think it was a point in terms of their point per game.
Starting point is 00:06:36 It was close. Robinson was third overall in terms of non-quarterbacks. Gibbs, I believe, was fourth or fifth. So they were right there with each other, where they were, you know, competing for. But I think they, you know, it's almost like you just want to have somebody else make the decision for you unless you just have that strong of a feeling.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Now, in terms of Brian Robinson, how soon do you feel like you need to handcuff Bejan Robinson if you need to handcuff them at all day? Do you want to target Brian Robinson if you're the Bejan Robinson manager? The deeper the league, the more interested I would be in doing it, but I wouldn't prioritize it. It wouldn't be the same as, all right, I'm drafting Christian McCaffrey and I want to have the guy behind Christian McCaffrey, like that type of thing where you know that there's a bit of an injury concern and you just want to safeguard.
Starting point is 00:07:24 yourself with a running back that's in a great offense, that's when I would go and prioritize taking the guy behind the guy. In this case, number one, I don't think a lot of people are clamoring for Brian Robinson Jr. and fantasy drafts. And number two, if you've got Bejohn and he goes down, it doesn't matter if you've got Brian Robinson or not. Your fantasy team's in trouble. But at least you'll have a running back on your bench.
Starting point is 00:07:45 If you're thin at the position, obviously we want to have guys who can start in place of other guys. I think round 10 would probably be the time when I would start to look for Brian Robinson because I don't think a lot of other people in the league without Bijon Robinson on their team would be that interested in drafting Brian Robinson. Heath, Dave brought up the second part of this, which is now Christian McCaffrey does not have a guaranteed backup. Now, we knew this because Robinson was a free agent signed over.
Starting point is 00:08:12 It was on the end of his contract there. Assuming they don't do anything. Are you looking at Isaac Garando or Jordan James as somebody that you want to target? in your fantasy drafts because of McCaffrey being 30 coming off a year where he had, you know, significant workload once again. I'm looking at that as one of the more interesting camp battles that, of guys that aren't going to be starters.
Starting point is 00:08:36 So I think it will be important, which of the, the hard thing is if you're drafting before that battle is settled, I mean, it's hard to take either one of them. But in the way San Francisco running backs have worked throughout history is one of them will probably get hurt. And then the other guy will be the RB2,
Starting point is 00:08:52 but yes, whichever one is the RB2, and I would probably lean ever so slightly towards Jordan James right now, but whichever one of the guys is the RB2, I'd have some interest in them. The other thing is, if we've got the age for McCaffrey,
Starting point is 00:09:05 the injury history, the workload from last year, but if you just forget about all that, in projections, he's my top projected running back because when he plays, he's the best running back. Yep,
Starting point is 00:09:14 it's going to be very interesting to see where Christian McCaffrey goes in drafts and very interesting to see where he's ranked, and that's going to lead us into our topic for a day. Just one more news item, which really isn't of anything significant. As of now, we had two quarterback signings yesterday. Joe Flacco stays with the bangle, so he'll be the backup to Joe Burrow. Maybe he was watching the flag football game over the weekend and decided that's a little crazy. So I'll just stay in Cincinnati in case something happens to Burrow once again.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And Zach Wilson goes from the Dolphins to the Saints. He'll be the most likely backup to Tyler Schuck. Spencer Rattler's still there. But I would imagine Wilson has the inside track to be the number two quarterback there in New Orleans. All right. So let's start with Dave's list of rankings changes. And I'm going to get to one guy before we take a break because Dave's got shocking, four running backs of his five players that we're going to discuss one wide receiver. So Emeka Abuka is the one wide receiver, Dave. Where do you have him ranked and how much did you get excited about him now that Mike Evans is a starting
Starting point is 00:10:12 wide receiver for the San Francisco 49ers? That was the first part of it. The second part, Jamie, was reevaluating him when I went through all of the analysis. and, you know, the exercises that I go through when players change teams, the things I went through when Jalen Wattle got moved to Denver, we did that mock draft last week. I took Wattle late in round three, and I started looking at all the other receivers that I did not take.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And I had to ask myself, why not a Bucca? Why not somebody that's got huge upside? Someone who we've seen play well, obviously we've seen them play poorly, when he was banged up, when his quarterback was banged up, when the offense just wasn't the same. And I've said this before. I think I said it already this week, actually. I expect Tampa to be one of those teams that has a good offense and a bad defense.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And that combination makes me want to gravitate toward players on that team. This should be the number one target getter in Tampa. We know that in his second year, he should be able to be even better than he was in his first year. That's not saying much after how he finished the year. But I think there's just upside for a Bucca to be a top 10 wide receiver this season. You don't have to draft him as such. I think he's worth a third round pick much more so than Jalen Wattle at this point. and I've got him as wide receiver 15 in full PPR as we sit here today.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Heath, with your projections, Dave said leading the team in targets. How does that compare to Chris Godwin, maybe Jalen McMillan? And do we think that the Bucks receiving corps is done or could they potentially add somebody else? Because they surprised us last year, I think when they drafted Abuka knowing that they were bringing back Evans and Godwin. And it seemed as if it was a little bit of a shocking move. But then when you took a step back and said, okay, this is a guy for the future. he was clothing guy for the now. How do you see the targets being distributed in Tampa Bay?
Starting point is 00:11:56 Right now I do have a Bucca pretty clearly is the number one target earner for Tampa Bay. I do think, and we talked about this, I think on Monday, like if Chris Godwin is back to Chris Godwin, then that's not certain at all that Abuco, because he does have a much longer, longer history with Baker Mayfield. He has been a guy who, even when Mike Evans was awesome, Chris Godwin often earned more targets than him. And so that, that, if, if Godwin is all the way back and returns to form, then I think it could be really close between those two. I've got Abuka wide receiver 19, so just a little bit lower. I seem to have just a little bit more concern about who Baker Mayfield is this year, because we didn't see the same guy last year. And we've rarely seen the same guy two years in a row in Baker Mayfield's career.
Starting point is 00:12:46 So I don't know that this is going to be a great offense, but right now, yeah, I think he's a top 20. wide receiver and for the time being the number one target earner on Tampa Bay. Can you give me a few of the receivers you have over Abuka? Luther Burton. Okay. All right. That's a guy I've got behind a Bucca. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:03 That's fair. It's very, it's very interesting with this receiving court because McMillan, I'm sure, is going to be one of their outside receivers. But Bucca and Godwin are very versatile. They could both play inside, play outside,
Starting point is 00:13:15 and we'll see, you know, how they use these guys. And really, whoever ends up being their slot guy could be very heavily targeted based on Baker's track record. Plus, you also have, once again, for Baker-Mayfield, another new offensive coordinator, Zach Robinson will be the play caller in Tampa Bay.
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Starting point is 00:14:16 I got four running backs left of Dave's five guys, Chuba Hubbard, Vacial Tutin, Jalen Warren, and Jacori Kroski Merritt. Dave, let's start with Chuba Hubbard. We talked about this a little bit when we were reviewing. the mock draft. He went around six. I drafted him as my number two running back. As we sit here today prior to the NFL draft, he benefits in a big way with Rico Dalto leaving. Jonathan Brooks a little uncertain in terms of his recovery from his second toward ACL. So where are you comfortable drafting Chuba Hubbard and where do you have him ranked? Right about where you took him, maybe a little bit past that is where I'd be okay with Chuba Hubbard. I've got him as a borderline RB2. Again, as we sit here now, I don't know if I'm buying that the Panthers are done with their running back room just because they signed AJ Dillon,
Starting point is 00:15:08 Jonathan E.T.N., Jonathan Brooks on the way back, and Chuba is a guy that they paid. I could see them adding another running back in the draft. And the higher the draft capital that they spent on a running back, the less I'll be excited about Chuba Hubbard. I mentioned this earlier in the week. Here's what it is. 12 of 18 games. I said 20, but it's actually 18 games over the last two years.
Starting point is 00:15:28 When he's had 14 plus touches, he's had at least 15 PPR points. Like any running back, when he has volume, He puts up good numbers for fantasy. The problem is that when he doesn't have volume, he stinks. He hasn't even gotten to 10 PPR points in a game when he's at 13 or fewer carries or touches, touches over the last two seasons. So, yeah, if things stand Pat and the Panthers backfield, maybe he will go higher than round six and maybe even higher than round five
Starting point is 00:15:53 because fantasy managers will gravitate toward a guy who they see as being a lead back for an improving Carolina team. Their offensive line will be better. Their defense will be better. It'll set up a little bit nicely for whoever, that top running back is. I just don't know if we can sit here late March and say, yeah, it's definitely going to be Chuba Hubbard. But for now, he's a name you got to keep in mind as somebody who could be a good back-end RB2. If he does open the season as the starter for the Panthers, is this a league-winning type of guy or is this more of a settle-for type of guy?
Starting point is 00:16:23 I think it's more of a settle-for type of guy, but I've been, like, I was a big, big Jonathan Brooks guy, and there's been some buzz around Carolina that they're excited about him. And so if the reports are good, I'm probably more open to the possibility that Jonathan Brooks is going to carve out a role in this offense. They liked him as a pass catcher a lot coming out of college as well. So I do think, and if he's not, then I think they probably add someone else. I'm probably going to be a little bit lower on Chuba Hubbard just because of that, because of the very limited track record of him being really good as a rusher. He had a great season in 2024. Last year he kind of came back to Earth.
Starting point is 00:17:06 And I don't know that this is a great offense for a running back. We'll see. I mean, the offensive line, they continue to retool it, adding another piece this offseason. So, I mean, I think if he does, if it does stand pat, you know, so, you know, I think we're all kind of waiting to see what they do. You know, I don't think it's going to be a high profile guy because there's not a lot of them in this draft class.
Starting point is 00:17:29 but if they do spend a day two pick on someone, then that's something that's probably telling on Brooks and his recovery and the peak of Chuba. But if they stand pat, that's an encouraging sign for Brooks, obviously, but also an encouraging sign for Hubbard. And I think to your point, Heathie, we start to get buzz about Brooks and drives down the price for Chuba Hubbard. He's going to end up, I think, being one of the better value picks because we just don't know what Brooks will bring.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You know, if Brooks is back, then it's maybe a little bit of a waste of a pick on Hubbard. But I think round six for now is a good option. a good round or a good range to target somebody like him again, a guy that could still be a back end running back to, depending on a build your team, and hopefully get back to that 2024 production that we saw. All right now is that. If we draft Chuba as a settle for RB2,
Starting point is 00:18:17 do we also target Brooks then in that round 9-10 range? Same range that we were sort of talking about for Brian Robinson, but maybe a little bit ahead of Brian Robinson, and then you lock up the Panthers backfield Azure RB2. I don't think that that's a bad plan. If Brooks is healthy, it would be one of my favorite,
Starting point is 00:18:34 quote unquote handcuffs. Sure, sure, but if Brooks is healthy and the headlines are great out of training camp, you can kiss round nine goodbye. It'll be more like maybe round eight.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Facial tune right now is in a great spot. Went in a similar range as, as Chuba Hubbard, round six in the last draft that we did. Again, you can see the results of the last podcast, two of the last three podcasts that we've done. If you're looking,
Starting point is 00:18:57 if you're watching on YouTube, and you could also read, the story on CBSports.com. But they shall tune right now, as it stands, the number one running back in Jacksonville, unless, of course, you're listening to our mailbag where Dan Schneier made the case that maybe Chris Rodriguez is the number one running back for the Jaguars.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Now, Dan was not saying that you should be drafting Rodriguez over Tutan at this point, but there is the history of Rodriguez with the head coach. They were together in Kentucky. So Liam Cohen, like caller for the Wildcats, Chris Rodriguez was a running back there. So Dave, when you look at this, is this another backfield that you want to lock up or you just want to target Basial Tutin and hope that he's the lead running back for Jacksonville and just takes over for what Travis Eaton did for the Jaguars last season? I think I'd be a little more encouraged with Tutin than I would be with Chuba Hubbard. I think Jacksonville's backfield is kind of done.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I know that Liam Cohen likes utilizing three running backs, and that's the downside of it with Bachel Tutton because I think not only will Tutton play and Rodriguez-Berick's. play, but Lequint Allen, we saw him in a role. It's a passing downs running back, more of a pass protector than anything else last year. I think that role is locked up for Allen. Not that that makes him any good for fantasy, you shouldn't draft him. But the other two running backs just given the fact that they signed Rodriguez, they drafted Teuton last year. I feel like Jacksonville's good with their backfield.
Starting point is 00:20:17 And if that's the case, I like Tootin is the best talent of the three and somebody who can certainly improve on the numbers they had last year. I kind of throw out a lot of the stats they had last year because he was used so sporadical. I never really had a chance to be the lead running back. And in those situations, I like to fall back on what I know about the player from college and what we see on film from him. And that's somebody who's got great speed and someone who's got good versatility. Could he end up being a trapback?
Starting point is 00:20:45 That's a worry that I've got. Somebody who gets a lot of carries, doesn't work near the goal line, doesn't catch a ton of passes. Obviously, that would be a problem for fantasy managers. And that's why we're drafting them in this round six type range. But the Jacksonville offense is awesome. I think their offensive lines pretty good as well. Getting the lead running back there would be something that could end up being a great pick for fantasy. And I wouldn't be opposed.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Another backfield where if I end up getting Tutin, I can target Chris Rodriguez in that round nine-ish range and lock up the Jacksonville backfield. And I might feel better about that backfield than I would the Carolina backfield. Heath, which of the two backfields that we discussed so far do you think is most likely to add to it from the NFL draft, Carolina or Jacksonville? Ooh, I'm going to go with Carolina. I wouldn't be surprised if either one did, though. I think just like we said, if Carolina does, that will tell us how Jonathan Brooks is doing in his recovery.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I think if Jacksonville does, then that will tell us how they feel about Bejel Tootin turning into a lead running back. Because, I mean, he came into the NFL with all these exciting metrics and abilities and these huge, question marks about his role in the passing game and his ability to hold on to the football. And I don't know that those questions have been fully answered yet. The Jaguars were rumored to be interested in J.K. Dobbins, interested in Tyler Algier, settled for, I think, if you're just looking at it from, you know, Broadview, in my opinion, at least Chris Rodriguez, if those are the two guys that they were talking about. So it feels like there's not, there's another shoe that's still going to drop for this team.
Starting point is 00:22:26 You know, they, you know, sort of retooled their backfill last year a little bit by trading tank Bigsby, by getting Bachel Tutin, by getting Lequin Allen, you know, and to Dave's point, they played Allen a lot on third down, but they didn't let him touch the ball a lot on third down. It was almost like he was an extension of their offensive line, but a very good pass blocker. So we'll see what they, what they decide to do. But again, right now, Tutin's in a great spot, understandable why his value is on the rise and the rankings have improved. Jalen Warren, however, got some significant competition, Dave. So Rico Dowdle joins the Steelers. He's reunited with Mike McCarthy. McCarthy was the guy who allowed Rico Dowdle to sort of flourish in Dallas,
Starting point is 00:23:05 and then now they're reunited again in Pittsburgh. So I'm assuming Jalen Warren's stock is going down for you. Obviously. And this is somebody who's a different type of battery mate than Kenneth Gainwell was. And maybe this ends up helping Jalen Warren get more targets and be a bigger factor in the passing game. Aaron Rogers, we're assuming that he's going to be the quarterback there. I don't see Rogers playing style changing, even though McCarthy is the new head coach. I still think he's going to try and get the ball out quick.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I think he's still going to lean on his running backs as check down guys or when he's pressured. He's just got to get the ball out and it's going to go to them. And if Warren ends up playing way more passing downs than Dowdell, then maybe this is going to look silly. And Warren will end up being much better for PPR fantasy than anything else because we could see that target volume go way up if he's getting the Kenneth Gainwell role. But he's also going to see his Carrie's, go down. He had a career high 211 carries. It was his first year, Jamie, with more than 150
Starting point is 00:24:00 carries in a season. And between that and the number of targets and catches that he did have last year, it was his best fantasy season, at least on a per game average, he was north of 13 ppr points per game. It was kind of what I was expecting from him a couple of years ago. He finally got around to it this past year. Maybe he comes close to it again this year, but I don't love the prospect of Dowdell potentially taking him off the field at one point during the year on first and second downs and it leaves Warren in a smaller role. That would make me not want to take him where I would normally take Warren, which is as a borderline number two fantasy running back.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Now for me, he's definitely a number three fantasy running back. Heath in 2023, Jalen Warren was still almost exactly what Dave said, a borderline number two running back when he was sharing with Najee Harris. 2024 is I think the year Dave's alluding to where I think we were all excited about what he could become and Najee was still a thing. and Jalen Warren was dealing with injuries and did not have that year to take a step forward. We see it last year, and now here comes Rico Dottle. And I think Jalen Warren has shown us a few different versions of himself where he can be a good secondary option,
Starting point is 00:25:08 where he can be involved in the passing game and have success, where he could be a lead running back like we saw last year and sort of be that type of player. So does Rico Dowdell's scare you enough to want to avoid Jailen Warren? Or are you going to say, you know what, I'll just take maybe whichever Steelers running back goes second if I want to get a piece of this back. I've got those two kind of a coin flip right now in terms of who's going to be better. So I'll definitely take whoever a second. That doesn't mean I wouldn't take Jalen Warren. I'd still rather take Jalen Warren personally than I would Bachel Tut and or Chuba Hubbard.
Starting point is 00:25:37 So I think there will be a, the thing that scares me, though, we talked about the connection with Liam Cohen with Chris Rodriguez. Well, this is Mike McCarthy bringing in a guy Enrico Dowell that was on his team in Dallas. And so I do worry just a little bit that he has an edge on Warren. from the gate. It's certainly something to keep an eye on. It's going to be one of the more fascinating camp battles to watch to see how the Steelers use these guys. And obviously we're still waiting to see who the quarterback is going to be, although we all anticipated being Aaron Rogers coming back to the Steelers in 2026. Another backfield to watch is in Washington. Dave's last guy that we're talking about here is Jacori Kroski Merritt. So Dave, you know, we sent these lists via text and we didn't really say
Starting point is 00:26:20 up or down in terms of where they are in the rankings. And I'm curious, the Crossky Merritt move up or did he move down because it gets the benefit of at least right now looking like the lead running back. But they add Rashad White, they bring back Jeremy McNichols. Is this a winner or a loser for you following free agency? Don't forget that Jerome Ford's on this roster now, too, not that it's a big deal. But I feel like he's moving down. I don't know if I want to trust Jacary Croski Merritt as maybe an at best two-down player
Starting point is 00:26:47 for Washington in an offense that still has Jane Daniels under center and somebody who could still run and a team that's going to want to throw the ball still quite a bit, even though they don't have Zacherts to begin the year theoretically. He's not even on the team. On top of that, No Devo Samuel on the roster right now. I'm nervous about Kroski Merrick being a good fantasy running back. And that's especially the case in full PPR because I don't think he's going to catch anything. And if you're not catching the ball, you're not going to get a huge amount.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Your upside's gone, basically, unless you score a ton of touchdowns. I don't think he's going to score a ton of touchdowns. I think Rashad White is going to be their goal. lineback. I think White and Ford are going to be the past catchers in Washington. And they could always end up drafting a running back as well with their first round pick or a day two pick. And that would further push Crosky Merritt. I don't really have an intention of drafting him even in our mock drafts unless he just falls way, way down. And by the time I would take him, somebody else will have already snapped him up.
Starting point is 00:27:45 If you feel the same way, and just for me, I'm curious to see what Crosky Merit looks like if he gets a full season as And I agree with Dave. I think first and second down. I don't think he's going to all of a sudden morph into a pass catcher when they bring in Rashad White. But to see what he looks like with Jay and Daniels, because we really get a chance to see that last year. Because by the time Crossky Merritt had some of his good games, Jay and Daniels was significantly banged up. I like Bachel Tootin more than Jacori Crossi Merritt, but I don't have any idea what to think about the Washington back field right now. And so it's kind of just a, if I can get him as a number three running back, I still think he has.
Starting point is 00:28:23 upside to be a top 20 guy because he's so good as a rusher. There were just things that he couldn't do last year. And listen, Dave talked about it with Abuja. Guys improved between their rookie year and their second year. If he has improved some of the deficiencies in his game and he gets to be on the field a little bit more, he's certainly going to be a committee back. He's not going to play third downs. Most likely, Basial Tutin's not going to play third downs just because LeQuint Allen's going to be the guy on the field.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And so I think they'd be very similar. It's just whether Chris Rod Regis or Rashad White matters more on early days. Yeah, and obviously Rashad White's got a pretty, you know, lengthy resume by comparison. We'll see how he factors in. And, you know, he may end up being the best running back for Washington. We said this in our mock draft review that we didn't like Rashad White in round seven, but that doesn't mean that he can't end up there if he wins the training camp battle and is the best running back in Washington to open the season.
Starting point is 00:29:21 All right, let's move on to Heath's list. I'm just going to lump two guys together because I have them ranked back to back. I'm curious, or very similar, where you have the two quarterbacks on your list. So, Heath's list is Malik Willis, Kyler Murray, Isaiah likely, Kyle Pitts, and Khalil Shakir. A lot of Kay's there. So let's start with the quarterbacks here. We got Malik Willis and Kyler Murray. Which one moved up more, and which one do you have ranked higher?
Starting point is 00:29:44 So I think Malik Willis has been a roller coaster because he moved up a lot when he got the starting job with Miami. he took a little bit of a hit when they traded away his only wide receiver. And I think their top two wide receivers right now might be Jalen Tolbert and Malik Washington. They added other guys, but they need wide receivers. So I'll take Kyler Murray right now just ahead of Malik Willis in a one quarterback league. In Superflex, I think you have to favor Willis just because there's still some risk that Kyler Murray doesn't win the starting job. I don't really believe that that risk exists for Malik Willis.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Both of these guys could run for 700 yards. Both of these guys have given us reason to be optimistic about what they can do as a passer. Not good, but optimistic. And then the big difference is Kyler Murray has Justin Jefferson. Malik Willis has no one. And Jordan Addison and Kevin O'Connell, at least the coach. So Dave, we've talked a little bit about Malik Willis when he signed and following the Jalen Wattel trade. I don't think you were on the Jayland Waddle show.
Starting point is 00:30:50 You definitely weren't because you were gone. So does Willis without Waddle change dramatically from the standpoint of how fantasy managers should view him in the frame of we expect him to run a lot? The allure to what Malik Wills could be might be the best running quarterback in fantasy based on how this offense may look. Did things really change for the worse without Waddle there that much? A little because we're talking about a receiver in Jalen Waddle who has excelled making plays after the catch and those numbers add up for the quarterback and Heath really hit it. It's not going to be a great receiving core for Malik Willis in Miami. To me, that's a huge differentiator between Murray and Malik Willis. But if you're drafting Malik Willis, you're doing it because of the rushing.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And he said there's potential for 700 yards. There's potential for 1,000 rushing yards from Malik Willis in this Dolphins offense because I don't know what else they're really going to do. I think that's a really ugly looking receiving room and it's going to be hard for Willis. It's going to be hard to project him. In fact, I'm curious, Heath, what you have Malik projected for on a per game basis. Can he even find 175 yards per game? And if I'm drafting a quarterback that has that low of a projection, he better run his tail off and he better rush for a bunch of touchdowns to make up for it.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Whereas Kyler Murray, he won't run for 1,000 yards. I'd be surprised if he ran for 700 yards. It might be more like 500 yards, but that's still awesome. They'll still run for four or five touchdowns. And on top of that, we know about his receiving core and we know about Kevin O'Connell and what he's done with literally every quarterback he's had other than J.J. McCarthy. So I would prefer to draft Kyler, but I'm in the market for either of those quarterbacks when we get to the back half of fantasy drafts, and I'm looking, and I'm ready to commit to two quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:32:50 on my fantasy team. Yeah, I haven't downgraded Willis probably as much as I will, because it's not going to stay like this. The wide receiver is both the position that still has the most established veterans available in free agency, and the position that is the best and deepest in this draft class. So the Dolphins top, probably I would guess the Dolphins top two wide receivers are not currently on the team. It's just who finding out who those guys are and how good they are will make a big difference. Like just looking at free agency. And I don't know if any of these guys would even go to Miami. But we still got Tyreeks Hill's not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Stefan Dix, Debo, Samuel, Juan Jennings. Like there's a lot of guy. Keenan Allen, there's a lot of vets that would be easily the wide receiver won on this team right now. Yep. And two first round picks following the trade of Waddle. So they have Denver's first pick, the first round pick at 30th overall. Dolphins have the 11th overall pick. So we'll see what they decide to do.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But yes, certainly some still uncertainties with these guys. Dave, just yes or no. You said you would look at these guys as if you're taking two quarterbacks. Would you take these two quarterbacks to be your only quarterbacks on your fantasy roster? Just yes or no. No. No. So you'd rather have a more proven guy with better.
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Starting point is 00:35:20 your home. You'll find the same regular prices online as in store. Many promotions are available both in store and online, though some may vary. All right. We talked about two of Heath's guys, the quarterbacks, Malik Willis, and Kyler Murray. Now we have two tight ends to look at here in Isaiah Likeley and Kyle Pitts. So Heath, when it comes to Likely, he changed teams. He goes from the Ravens to the Giants. Obviously a huge upgrade. How much of an upgrade, though, for you in your rankings? Is he a top 10 guy? A top five guy? Is this a must draft player? Is he a league winner now that he's the starting tight end for the New York Giants? Just a little peek behind the curtain. One of the things I've
Starting point is 00:36:04 been working on for the last few weeks is trying to lower Sam LaPorte of Kyle Pitts and I say likely in my projections because I've just absolutely loved what's happened for those guys this offseason. I think we've talked a lot, a lot about Drew Petzing and Kevin Stefansky and their offensive system and how much you throw the ball to tight ends. And I think people don't talk about it with the Giants because nobody knows how much Matt Nagy was involved in the offense in Kansas City and actually calling plays, and nobody really thinks Harbaugh had much to do with it in Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:36:38 But both of those guys also come from offenses where the tight end is an enormous part of the offensive game plan. And so the only addition they've made that really matters at wide receivers, Darnell Mooney, right? Like, I think there's a chance that Isaiah likely is then, and Jackson
Starting point is 00:36:54 Dart showed last year with Theo Johnson at times that he likes to throw the ball to his tight end. So I I'm going to probably end up settling with likely right around tight-in six. The first run-up projections had him at tight-in four. I think this is an extremely talented guy that walks into a situation where he has the opportunity to have 100-plus targets as the number two target on his own team.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Dave, do me favor. Look up what Matt Nagy's targets to tight ends were when he was the head coach of the Bears, because that could tell us a little bit about maybe where we're, looking at from this. But, uh, so tight end sticks. So your top five guys, I'm going to assume are McBride, Bowers, Loveland, Warren, Fanon. Fanon.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Oh, no, you like Laporta. Leportas four. Yeah, I'm going to have Leporta ahead of Warren for sure. And I'm going to have Leporta ahead of Fannin for sure. So Lepard of four. I, the, what I'm really struggling with right now and, like, when we're talking about rankings, I think everybody knows they go to the site. We don't actually have rankings published.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And so it's all kind of a flukewarm. a discussion right now about where these guys are. The group I struggle with is Pitts, likely, Kraft, Warren, Fannon. And that's,
Starting point is 00:38:10 now we're down to nine tight ends with those top four that you gave, which is one of the reasons that I have a really hard time taking guys in round four and five that I think are still in the discussion with guys that are available in round eight and nine. Like Adam took likely in round 10, I think, in our last mock draft. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:27 It's huge upside. We, we did. the sort of the state of the tight ends on fantasy football today express yesterday. And I said, I love what Adam did. He took likely and Kelsey, you know, and Kelsey was having a great season by all standards of where he is right now before Mahomes suffered the ACL tear in week 14. And so, you know, you got basically, for me, those are two top, tight ends.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I think I have likely at 9 and Kelsey at 10. You know, so that's an unbelievable pairing if you're going to wait that long to take two swings at the position. Because, look, likely could fail. You know, I mean, you brought up all the positives. He's had some opportunities, not many in Baltimore when Mark Andrews has been hurt. And then, you know, we don't know what Jackson Dart looks like with Malik Neighbors. They played half of a game together when Dart was a starter in week four, when neighbors suffered the torn ACL,
Starting point is 00:39:26 but we also don't know a version of the league neighbors were getting. You mentioned Darna Muni. They still may add to the receiving core, but it feels like they may be done as well. And then Kelsey could easily still be a starting caliber tight end. But I think Isaiah likely is one of the more intriguing players this year because you're going to get him at a discount by comparison to the younger tight end, certainly by comparison to McBride and Bowers.
Starting point is 00:39:49 And you may have a top five caliber player. Dave, did you find the naggy numbers when he was the Bears coach? Sure. So with Chicago, Matt Nagy, his first year there, he signed Trey Burton. It was a large contract, $22 million guaranteed. Burton averaged 9.2 PPR points per game, 4.8 targets per game. And I remember I remember liking Trey Burton back then and targeting him in drafts. And then he underwhelmed a little bit. The only tight end that Nagy's had good success with. And then that 9.2 PPR points per game, that's the best it ever got for a tight end in Chicago. under Matt Nagy, it's Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:40:27 But Travis Kelsey is a completely different type of tight end than Isaiah likely is. And the target volume, obviously, for Kelsey, he worked as more of a number one wide receiver for the majority of his time in Kansas City. I don't think Isaiah likely is going to be anywhere close to that in New York. I would just, I don't mind likely as a top 10 pick in fantasy tight ends among the tight ends, not as a top 10 pick overall. Maybe we're taking him in the mid-rounds and feeling okay about it to begin the season. But I don't want to overcommit to somebody who hasn't been committed to in four years
Starting point is 00:41:02 by John Harbaugh, who still is head coach in New York. And as long as Malik Neighbors comes back and he's healthy, we know he's going to be the top target getter. And I still think there's some pieces in this Giants offense that we don't know about yet. We should double check this by the time we get to May first, see what they do in the draft, and then decide just how high Isaiah likely should be in our rankings. All right. So he's sixth for Heath, right? Is that projections or ranking? Yeah. And where is he for you, Dave? A 10th. 10th. Okay. So still top 10 tight in. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's draftable for sure. But I don't want to put him in the same boat as Kraft, Pitts, and Leporta just yet. So Kyle Pitts did not change teams. He got the franchise tag. And I think we'll probably all agree if he's a
Starting point is 00:41:46 holdout that's going to, you know, make us a little uncomfortable about how maybe high we may have him ranked. Keith Pitts last year, best year of his career, you know, finally looked like the guy we've been waiting for. A lot of his great games came when Drake London was banged up. So take that into account. And a lot of his great games, along with that, came with Kirk Cousins under center. So now we have a different quarterback, most likely to Otong of Iloa or banged up Michael Penix. We have a new coach in Kevin Stefanski, which I think we'll all agree is a huge positive based on his track record with tight ends. Is Kyle Pitts going to disappoint us? once again because once upon a time he had one great season.
Starting point is 00:42:25 It was his rookie year. And then we've been chasing that year ever since until what he did last year when nobody drafted him as a starting tight end. Yeah, I don't think he's going to disappoint us because I think he went two rounds earlier than likely in the most recent lock trapped. And I think so people have been disappointed so often that he's just, his ADP is not going to get pushed up that high. We've talked about it a lot.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Fancy's offense like 10 targets per game, two tight ends. They won't all go to the same guy. but an excellent chance, just like likely, for Pitts to be the second target in this offense in terms of total targets. He's averaged 7.9 yards per target over his career, which is good for a tight end. The big problem has been the touchdowns. The fun thing is he scored one, then two, then three, then four, then five. So I think you can count on six touchdowns next year. We get sets a new career high every year.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And I just, listen, sometimes the coordinator stuff doesn't work out. Sometimes it does. I think Stefansky and the fact that the guy who was offensive coordinator under him went somewhere else, and we saw the same trend makes me a little bit more confident in that aspect of the offense. They will get him easy targets. That's what that offense is really known for is those dump-off targets, that kind of PPR cheat code type targets. And so I think Kyle Pitts could.
Starting point is 00:43:50 be the number one tight end. You can draft him as the number eight tight end. The things that you look at, it's not just the coordinator or the coach, and it's the fancy, because there's that track record. I think Tua has shown us with two different versions of tight ends. He was very good for John Smith in 2024.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And in a very small sample size, he was good with Darren Waller last year as well. Not necessarily from a huge volume standpoint, but just from a fantasy production standpoint, Tua and Waller had a very solid connection in the three or four games that they played together. The other thing, which I hope will lead to a contract extension for Kyle Pitts, at least to avoid or something to avoid the holdout,
Starting point is 00:44:35 is the guy that's now calling the shots for the Falcons was his quarterback in his rookie season, and that's Matt Ryan. And so hopefully Ryan convinced his ownership to make a commitment to Kyle Pitts. And then we have this pairing for maybe a couple of years, so you can see what Pitts can do in Stefansky's offense, certainly for people in Dynasty League. Dave, I'm going to guess you're a little bit more skeptical of Kyle Pitts
Starting point is 00:44:56 just based on how you've treated him in the last couple years. Yeah, no question about it. Last year, 9.6 PPR points per game on 6.2 targets per game in 12 games with Drake London. I would say that that's pretty good for Kyle Pitts, especially when you look at his years before 2025. His numbers were inflated because of those five games he played without Drake London. And I think the Tuatung of I,
Starting point is 00:45:19 a low point is very valid. If he's the starter for the Falcons, at least to begin the season, this is a dude who wants to get the ball out quick. And when that's the case, you're going to look for a tight end like Kyle Pitts, who can catch the ball and they may make it play after the catch. So there is some potential for Kyle Pitts to be a double-digit PPR guy, not just at the beginning of the year, but maybe carry it all through the season. But I don't see the same type of upside except when he plays against the bucks,
Starting point is 00:45:45 because apparently he's good for like two touchdowns and 175 yards each time he goes. goes up against Tampa. Those weeks will be starting Kyle Pitts, but otherwise, I'm not excited to draft him. I'd rather have Laporta. I'd rather have craft. I'd rather have those top five studs. I think that's easy to say. And so if that means that he's tight end eight by default, that's just kind of indictment on what the rest of the tight ends look like after the first seven guys that we draft. Tight end will be a fun position to discuss throughout the rest of this offseason, as a wide receiver. And the last guy on Heath's list is Khalil Shakir. So, he gets company in Buffalo with the addition of DJ Moore.
Starting point is 00:46:22 How do we feel about Khalil Shakir now, Heath? Yeah, I am not excited about Khalil Shakir. I'm not expecting a huge increase in pass attempts after the offensive coordinator got promoted to the head coach. Maybe he throws a little bit more. He's never, kind of like Kyle Pitts, he's never been a touchdown guy. While he's been the number one wide receiver for this team, he's never. ever had a season with more than 100 targets.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Like, it's just, he's really awesome for Buffalo, and he catches almost everything you throw at him. And he makes a couple of big plays every year. But he's not somebody that I am really interested in drafting. It's round 11. You recognize the name, and you take them to put on your bench. If we do see an increase in past attempts, though. So let's just say Joe Brady is free of Sean McDermott.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And he says, you know what? I want to throw the ball 600 times, you know, or 580 times. I don't know what was their number last year. 495. 495. So let's just say it goes up 50, you know, 50 more pass times. Okay. DJ Moore, obviously, we're all going to project, predict, rank to be the number one
Starting point is 00:47:35 wide receiver in Buffalo. That's easy. If Shakir is number two and we see bump in targets by, let's say, 15 to 20. Does that change your opinion? So I've got him projected for a bump in targets of five right now. And that puts him at wide receiver 41 in the projections. So if you added 10 more targets, then yeah, he could get into the low end wide receiver 3 conversation. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:06 So if we, we're not going to, you know, I can't imagine Joe Brady is going to, you know, give his full offensive plan. But we, you know, we hear rumblings that, you know, next week at the owner's meetings, he's going to meet with the media. He's going to say, you know, I want to open the offense a little bit more. You know, I want to be a little bit more past friendly and be a little bit more explosive and blah, blah, blah, whatever he says. We could see hopefully a renaissance for all these guys. And we'll just move into, you know, my five guys here because DJ Moore is on the list.
Starting point is 00:48:38 So DJ Moore is obviously a winner here, you know, going from. Chicago to Buffalo. For me, he's, you know, you mentioned you have burden over Abuca. I still have more over burden right now. That may change. That's certainly in pencil. As you said, our ranking is not on the site yet. So I'm curious, though, like how you view Buffalo's both you guys, how you view Buffalo's new number one wide receiver compared to Chicago's two guys that are left. So Heath, for you, it's Burden Moore O'Donze? Is that how do you have it? It is Burden more O'Donzee. and burden and Moore are pretty close and Adunzee's five to ten spots behind them.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Okay. I have it the same way except just more one spot ahead of burden and O'Donzee about five spots behind. Dave, how do you have those three guys ranked? They're all within five spots of each other, burden O'Donzee Moore. And it goes back to what we talked about with the bills and Joe Brady and how their tendency is to run the football between James Cook and Josh Allen. And until that target volume goes up across the board, the passing volume,
Starting point is 00:49:43 I guess I should say, goes up across the board. It's hard to look at DJ Moore in the same lens as when he was in Carolina getting a ton of targets. Because when he got a ton of targets and he got it in Chicago, too, that's when he was at his best for fantasy. If he's, we're coming off a year where Khalil Shakir was the target leader for Buffalo, it was 95 targets. I don't think, I don't think DJ Moore is going to get 95. I think he's going to go higher than that. But he's also a little bit older than the last time that he was great. and I want to draft him closer to the floor than the ceiling,
Starting point is 00:50:14 even though it is kind of exciting to think about him as the number one guy in Josh Allen's offense. And being reunited with Joe Brady, where he's had, you know, arguably two of three best seasons, the one scene being the best was his first in Chicago. So he's had, how many targets do you have projected for DJ more? 121, and that is with Josh Allen throwing 526 passes, so 31 more than last year. year. I don't think anybody'd be surprised if he threw 550. So then maybe DJ Moore could get to 130. I think the big difference for me between DJ Moore, which I agree, big win for him and Khalil Shakir is, if I'm looking at the upside and things go right for the Bill's pass attack,
Starting point is 00:50:56 I could see DJ Moore become a borderline wide receiver one. When I was talking about Kahliel Shakir's upside, it was like, maybe he could be a wide receiver three. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, it's going to take DJ Moore, Chicago, circa 2020, for 2020, to show up for us to be that excited about him. But clearly there's reasons to be excited about more now that he's in Buffalo. And the same thing with Romeo Dobbs going to the Patriots. We talked a little bit about this in the mock draft review. I think going back to the free agency discussion, though, it felt as if we were closer collectively. Maybe it was just me, but closer.
Starting point is 00:51:37 collectively with Wondell Robinson going to the Titans, Romeo Dobbs going to the Patriots, Alec Pierce staying in Indianapolis when we did the first recap show because that all happened on day one of free agency. I feel like Dobbs' upside is just untapped right now. We don't know what we're going to get from him because we've seen some good moments from him in Green Bay. We've seen some good moments when he's been targeted. But now he gets a chance to hopefully lead the Patriot's targets.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Again, I don't know if this team is done in terms of what the receiving core looks like. There's still a lot of talk about AJ Brown. I don't know if the Eagles are going to let him go. But where do you guys have Romeo Dobbs? For me, he's wide receiver 34. So just inside the top 36 wide receivers. He is wide receiver 38 for me. That is with 101 projected targets.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Last year, the leader on the Patriots had 102. And Dobbs career high is 96. So there's upside beyond that. It's just going to have to be upside beyond what anybody in New England saw last year and what Dobbs has ever seen in his career. And I'm even further behind Heath on that. I like the idea of Dobbs as a bench receiver and fantasy. Don't want to reach for him and say he's going to be a slam dunk number three type of wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:52:48 We've seen two years of Drake May under center for the Patriots, the only guy to average, even 10 ppr points per game was Stefan Diggs. That's right around. That number 10 is right around where Dobbs has been. I want to draft him with that type of expectation. And I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to because there will be people in every league that will view Dobs. And this is as of now, if they add AJ Brown, obviously this changes totally.
Starting point is 00:53:10 But there will be people who think that he will be the number one receiver in New England and he might be by terms of like total raw targets that he gets, but it might not be a high number. It might be in the neighborhood of six targets per game. It's really hard to be a great fantasy wide receiver, even like a regular contributor to the lineups when you're only getting six targets per game. It's going to be interesting. You know, the history of Josh McDaniel's number one receiver.
Starting point is 00:53:35 has, you know, for the most part, been good. I don't know how much you want to attach that to Stefan Diggs last year because of his age coming off to ACL. And, you know, Dobbs may be in a similar situation. You know, we've never seen him do this before or be in this type of scenario before. So we'll see into your point, Dave. There's Andy KB7G in our chat says if the wide receiver room stays as is, he'll be extremely bullish on Romeo. So there's going to be people that are very excited about Dobbs because of, the scenario of being the number one receiver for Drake May.
Starting point is 00:54:08 D.K. Metcalf now has competition in Pittsburgh, so he's a guy that's been significantly lower to my rankings. I have him behind Dobbs as now that may change. But I'm a little bit worried about D.K. Metcalf coming off of what I think most people consider a disappointing season. And now the addition of Michael Pittman. Heath, you made a comment about Metcalf in the draft, but I don't think you explained it. You said something about Metcalf, and I don't know if you meant you're going to be bullish on his draft capital. where he'll go, but how do you feel about Metcalf now as the 1A or maybe even the 1B in Pittsburgh with Pittman now joining the Steelers?
Starting point is 00:54:43 I, listen, I'm still of the opinion that D.K. Metcalf's better than Michael Pittman and that D.K. Metcalf's going to see more targets than Michael Pittman. He's kind of like the Malik Willis roller coaster for me, because in my projections, it was a big win for D.K. Metcalfe to go from Arthur Smith to Mike McCarthy. That's been a very pass-heavy offense, or at least. If not pass heavy, high volume pass attempt offense in the past. And so then it was a pullback when Michael Pittman was added. But because I'd already given him the boost up,
Starting point is 00:55:16 I think I have D.K. Metcalfe pretty close to where I had him last year. I think he's wide receiver 27 for me. So a high end wide receiver three that I think has, I mean, quite a bit of upset. I'm just nervous about what we saw at the end of the Aaron Rogers, Mike McCarthy pairing and Rogers being now 42 and running the play clock down to zero every play and, you know, slowing things down in what McCarthy's offense may want to look like. And obviously McCarthy kind of being handcuffed a little bit because Rogers being the best
Starting point is 00:55:48 quarterback option that's available to him, it's a little different. I think when he has that Prescott and what he could do with that offense, at least what he was able to do in Dallas. So I'm a little concerned about Matt Kaff, but look, I agree with you. McCarthy is definitely an upgrade over Arthur Smith. and so hopefully Rogers in McCarthy's offense will be an upgrade as well. Last two guys will talk about here, Kenneth Walker and Emmanuel Wilson. I think Walker is obvious in terms of being a rankings riser.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Dave, where do you have Walker ranked now? For me, he's the ninth running back off the board, somebody I would take in the middle of round, too. I've got him 13th. So I'm a little bit behind you on Walker. I see the appeal. I get the upside. I kind of like the idea of saying, well, take what he did last year, add 10% to it, and then add like five touchdowns on top of it.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And that would be pretty darn good for Kenneth Walker, but we also know the downside with Walker. Obviously, the injuries are a factor. We don't know if Kansas City is going to suddenly change into a run-heavy team. They've had a low run rate each of the last five seasons. I think it's going to come down to Patrick Mahomes and what his health is like. And if he's really back to his old self, then we're still going to see this team throw the ball 60% of the time. I don't think that's a great thing for Kenneth Walker. I don't want to reach for him over some other running back.
Starting point is 00:57:01 that I think can still contribute highly to fantasy managers this year. Keith, is this a better or worse scenario for Ken Walker, taking the Zach Charbonnet equation out of it? Is this a better offensive environment right now than what he's leaving? I think if Zach Charbonnet was not, you tell me to take it out of it, but I think it's a worse one if Zach Charbonnet doesn't exist. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And it's a better one if Zach Charbonnet is back by week four and himself. Yes. So I did not go with a, because they're going to run a lot less than Seattle did, I think. And I would- You think early in the season when Mahomes is working his way back? I don't. I think they'll run more than they have in the past.
Starting point is 00:57:51 But the difference between how often Seattle was running last year and how often Kansas City's run period with Patrick Mahomes is, a wide gulf. Do you fear, and this is my big concern with Walker, do you fear that what we saw from him in the postseason, which is not replicable
Starting point is 00:58:12 over the course of 17 games because he was just amazing. I mean, he was, if you just take his sample size of that stretch, the best player in fantasy last year. But you do that with everybody's best stretch, but you get the point. That we're chasing,
Starting point is 00:58:28 that people are going to be chasing that production and he's not going to be as good with the chiefs. If he's where we have him ranked in that high end RB2 range, then no. I think that's appropriate. If he starts getting drafted as a top 12 running back, then absolutely yes. Okay. So I haven't ranked too high by your standards. Oh, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Yeah, I didn't. I'm curious who you've got ranked behind him, Jamie. So right now he is just ahead of Josh Jacobs and Ashton Genti. Genti will be the one that moves ahead of him for sure if everything continues to point in a positive direction. I'm a little bit worried that we may get some competition for Gentie just based on what you've heard from this coaching staff initially. So we'll see. But comparing him to Walker, obviously Kubiak was very uncomfortable using two guys last year. And that was not great for Walker during that stretch.
Starting point is 00:59:19 So it's, again, very much in pencil where I have Walker, I have Walker, Jacobs, Genty, Hampton right now. So those four guys have shuffled a billion times in a row to see. And then the last one here is just I think somebody who's probably going to be, I know I'm going to target him a lot as Emmanuel Wilson, just with the idea of can he win the starting running back job for Seattle with Charbonnet's delay in coming back from this ACL tear that he suffered in a divisional round against the 49ers. So Wilson, you know, we talked a little bit about Jonathan Brooks.
Starting point is 00:59:55 we talked a little bit about Chris Rodriguez. I would at this point be targeting Emmanuel Wilson over both those guys. I don't know how you feel. Dave. I would too, but I certainly don't expect Seattle to say that this is a finished running back room. This is a team that I'm actually hoping for makes a nice splash in the draft, maybe even takes two running backs in the draft, one on day two, and then another one laid on day three.
Starting point is 01:00:18 And they really add to the room that way. I think we've, I think we're kind of dreaming when we talk about Zach's actually. Charbonnet being ready for even like the midpoint of the year just because he tore his ACL in mid-January. And I don't know if we should expect big things from Charbonnet. And I think we should draft them accordingly. We don't know who those rookies will be that they add to the backfield. But Emmanuel Wilson isn't a rookie. And we've seen him play as a lead back before in Green Bay and he's done really well.
Starting point is 01:00:46 And even if he's part of a tandem to begin the year in Seattle, it's really good draft value. If we're taking him in that same range as good. The names that he would probably be amongst at best would be like Monongai, Blake Quorum, like those types of names. Emmanuel Wilson might be better than them, at least to begin the year. He might be a starter for your fantasy team to begin the year. It's the whole season outlook that I'd be really worried about with Emmanuel Wilson. But when we're taking him in the back half of a draft, who cares about the whole season outlook?
Starting point is 01:01:20 Let's just get somebody that can help me get to a good start to begin the year. perfect for drafters who love zero RB or hero RB. You feel the same way, Heath, about the Seattle backfield that we're not going to see Charbonnet maybe for a while. And is it Wilson or is a George Halani for you? Like, who's the guy that you're looking at in this backfield right now? I think you asked earlier in the show, who's more likely to add a running back Carolina or Jacksonville and if Seattle had been a part of that question.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I think we all would have said Seattle. So, but as of right now, I would say Wilson is the, the, He'd have to be the favorite to be the starting running back week one. I would be very surprised if we see Zach Charbonnet. I think really I'd be pretty surprised if we see Zach Charbonnet good this year. Like it's just he's got a really tough path to get back for week one. And there's very few guys that show up off of Pup in the middle of the season and look good. It's just a it's a hard thing to do in the NFL when everybody else is in midseason form and you're playing your first football game.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Certainly something that we'll be keeping an eye on. And obviously, as Dave said, and Heath agrees, the Seahawks could be one of those teams on the NFL draft, in the NFL draft that add to their back. All right, that'll do it for our rankings movers following free agency. Adam will be back on Thursday. I don't know what we'll be talking about, but we will be harassing him in person in our Fort Lauderdale Studios.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Looking forward to that. And we will talk to you on Thursday with another edition of Fantasy Football today. For Dave, for Heath, for Thomas Schaefer. I'm Jamie Eisenberg. thanks for watching. People for listening. You're back on.

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