Fantasy Football Today - Bold Calls for 2026! “I Wouldn’t Be Surprised If…” (05/18 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: May 18, 2026

Before we get to the main topic of the show, we have some serious commissioner drama in Heath's dynasty league! Find out what happened and what the next steps are! ... News and notes (18:00) with our thoughts on Aaron Rodgers, and then we get into "I Wouldn't Be Surprised If ... " as Dave talks about a potentially underwhelming Cowboys offense (20:15), Heath talks about a potentially underwhelming Trey McBride (24:15) and Jamey talks about a potentially awesome Kyler Murray (30:45) ... More "I Wouldn't Be Surprised If ... " scenarios on Parker Washington (33:40), Quinshon Judkins (41:30), Josh Downs (43:10), Jaylen Waddle (50:45), AJ Brown (52:50) and a couple of Round 1/2 running backs (57:45) ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oh, boy. Oh, no. Right out of the gate, fantasy cops. It's Monday, and what a weekend we had. You know, I was wondering how the best way to describe this was. I was thinking about one of my favorite TV shows where there's a character who just always does things wrong. Okay, it's a show Monk.

If you watch Monk, you know Randy Disher. He just, he's the lovable moron who always screws up. And there's an episode where Monk screws up, which never happens. And Monk screws up, and it leads to something really bad. I think, like, a bad guy gets out of jail. And Disher is so happy.

And they're like, why he's so happy? He's like, it wasn't me. It's like for the first time, someone screwed up and it wasn't me. And that's how I feel right now, watching this commissioner, because it's always me. It's always me being a terrible commissioner,

but not this time. I'm on the sidelines watching Heath's Dynasty League absolutely crumble right now during our rookie draft. Heath, how do you feel about wearing this burden? Yeah, I take, and listen, this can be debated and you guys can tell me that I'm wrong, but this is an instance that it's a commissioner's nightmare when you have someone in the league who says, I don't get communications from the league website, and I don't check the league website,

and it's not my fault that I missed those messages or don't know this rule. And how can you guys fix this for me? And then attacks the league, the commissioner, the website, just refusing to take responsibility for their own actions until this morning when they did. Yeah. And that person is Dan, obviously. Welcome to this show. It's Monday, May 18th. And today we are going to, we're going to, I don't know if we should do the whole thing.

Maybe tease it. No, no, no. We got one side today and we get the other side on Wednesday. I know, but I know. But, like, I want to get to the, you know, the crux of the show, which is I would. This is the crux of the show. I wouldn't be surprised. Forget about whatever you have.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dan's kicked out of the Dynasty League. All right. We're going to give you nine scenarios that wouldn't surprise us in 2026. But I do think, like, Dave, you have no idea what's going on. You're not in this Dynasty League. So what are you as an, you're basically an audience member right now. What are you, what's going through your mind? I don't care about what.

we wouldn't be surprised by. Let's get to what happened in this Dynasty League and spend 50 minutes on it and also get some fan reaction from it. And that's all we're talking about. No real fantasy advice today. Just airing grievances. I fully expect Dave to like the stone cold music to play, the glass to shatter and Dan to show up on the podcast today to defend himself. I wish. I tried. He's a dentist appointment. So Dan will not be on today. he'll probably be on Wednesday. I'll let Heath kind of lay it all out for you, but I'm going to give us to the eight. We have five minutes to do this, okay? Five minutes, go. I think five minutes for my laying it out

and then five minutes of discussion. It would probably work. So you guys are in the league. You can tell me if this is on. Dave's been in one of my leagues before, so he knows exactly what's happened here. Before our rookie drafts, I send out messages saying,

you must clear enough roster spots to make you a rookie picks. If you have a roster problem during the draft, you cannot fix that roster problem except via trade. So you're not going to be able to make add drops to your roster during the draft. So if you want to make five picks, have five open roster spots. Everyone in the league did that except for Dan. Well, what about the other guy that he's been trading with?

Well, I was under the impression because I kind of went through and checked. And some people had one roster spot left. They should want to make one pick, I assumed. Some people had three. Some people had four. Maybe there was somebody else, but this person had enough roster spots to make three picks, whereas Dan had enough roster spots to make one pick. Okay.

Dan figured this out in late in round two when it was time for him to make his pick and started texting me with, I don't know how much I should go into personal text messages. So I won't give too many details. But. very unhappy with the fact that he had not realized that he did not cut enough players to make his picks I need to know how unhappy um bro he's like like heath needs to make a dramatic reading i won't make a dramatic reading but i'm i'm going i'm going to take my ball and go home that that unhappy okay okay um and which immediately put me into a very angry state

because this was not the fault of anything other than Dan not paying attention. Dan, right, so he doesn't get, I don't know why. I talked to about this via text. Like, he doesn't get the emails from CBS. I'm like, bro, you got to fix that. Yeah, you got to fix that. It's been going on for a long time. Right.

Well, it's been going on for so long that in the Yolo Dynasty League that you guys are all in. um this dan did this two years ago and was very upset about it and had to make multiple draft picks trades to fix it and not just that but within the last two months

Dan was on a podcast complaining about that very time when that happened so it's not like he did it two years ago and forgot he remembered recently that he had this was the way this worked He had to cut enough players to make enough draft picks. He did not do that. So he solved it in round two by making a trade back.

Somebody took one of his players, perfectly legitimate. You got to round three, which, again, we're at pick 32, 33 in a 2026 rookie class. No one should care this much about this pick. The line you said to me yesterday was the best line. What was it? Oh, yes. If I had tried to trade, Dan, pick 30. 33 for anything, he would have told me how terrible this draft class is and how much this pick doesn't matter.

100%. Or more likely, he would have said nothing because he wouldn't have seen that tradeoff for him because he doesn't check in on a league website. But he finds a resolution with one of the league members trying to help him out. He trades three players to this guy for one player, which creates a roster spot for him. Great. with the understanding that after he makes the pick, they will trade the players back so the other guy can make his pick.

You can't do, I'll trade you back later. It's not legal. And it got brought up in the message board. Not by me, other people. Right. The message board went crazy. I mean, it got really heated. I honestly think this is the most heated

it may have ever gotten in any of the leagues I'm in. Adam, look at Johnny. he's post. What? You need to set his certified letter to? No, the next one. Um, oh,

Dana is a real life Seinfeld character at this point, and that's what I said to him. I said to Dan, I was like, you know who this would happen to? George Costanza. He doesn't want to accept the fact that he is George Costanza,

but he is. Um, so that's where we stand. I finally paused the draft. The trade has been reversed. Dan's pick has been reversed. And it seems that the league's sentiment is Dan's complained enough. Let's let him make his picks.

But there's not really a way to do that without him making a trade that is allowable and legal. All right. Well, he's so mad. He is so mad. He's like, I'm going to auction off my team. And by the way, I went to the finals last year. This is a really good scene that a lot of people would watch. To his credit, because I've said some things that weren't very nice,

he did accept responsibility this morning, acknowledged that he needs to do a better job. I think he even said sorry. And then sent three more ranting replies to other people in the chat that he was met at. But at one point, there was a little bit of contrition and acknowledgement that this was entirely 100% his fault. So Heath, you'll appreciate it. I send him and add him a text message.

Little trolling. I'm like, Dan, are you okay? You seem a little upset today. Dan wanted me to convey his side of the story since he can't be on. Okay. And I'm going through our texts and I don't really know what I'm supposed to read here. I guess there's a lot. But he just, he, and this is kind of like, like, I agree with him.

I don't like your rule personally, Heath. Like, I don't think you should have to drop players in May. but that's your right as the commissioner. I personally would have expanded the rosters to let you keep everyone and then make your drops later. And Dan, I think Dan's point, I feel bad because I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think Dan's point is like,

it's a- That doesn't do in that for him right now. It's a stupid rule, and we found a way to circumvent it, and why would you stand in our way of our method of circumventing the rule? And he's like, yeah. Well, everyone understands why.

making a trade with the agreement that you will reverse it in the future is not okay. Like that's not debatable, right? Correct. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So, I think if you agree to change it back halfway through the season, you shouldn't have that big of a problem with it. That big. Maybe you still have a problem with it.

But during the season? You can't. Yeah. So that way the players, teams have players for part of the, year. What if I did it during the season just so I could be days or one week. No, like, I think if you make a trade and it, and it, and you, I don't know if reverse is the way to say it, but you make a trade back weeks later, not, not in the same, you know,

short period of time, like what Dan's doing. What Dan's doing is not right. Forget it. That's it. Yeah. But Dave, you're saying you're, you're okay with players, with managers trading the same players back and forth to help each other at some point during the season. If it's for multiple.

weeks, I don't know if I have a big problem with it. That's what I said. I think you could make a, I think there should be a rule that you managers cannot trade players back to the same team. Right. Like if I'm in three, four weeks, whatever you want to say. Or maybe ever. That's fine.

Like there was a week where I didn't have a tight end and I made a trade and I thought, okay, well, I can just trade back with this manager later. And when I tried to trade back with the manager later, the manager said, no, I'm, I'm keeping the guy you gave me for a tight end to use this week. I was an S-O-L. But I didn't try it, but I didn't try to say, okay, just give me my guy back a week later. Let me get back to, let me get back to why this is Heath's fault, though.

Fine, fine, fine, fine, of course. Because it is a bad rule, making people make drops in May. You just let them, just expand. But also, here's what I think you should have done. You know, Dan, right? Like, obviously Dan was going to mess this up, right? So you should have reached out to him. You should have gone through the transactions and looked at the teams that didn't follow

your advice, that didn't. didn't like, not follow your advice, follow your rules. Because you posted this on like a Tuesday and the draft was Friday. So you should have reached out to the individual manager and said, hey, you haven't made any drops yet. You should do that before the draft. That's what a nice commissioner would do. That's what I would have done.

Before you answer, he told me this yesterday and I said, Heath has teenagers up as children. You and I are still in the, let's tell our kids 15 times. and then if they don't do it, we'll still tell them the 16th time to do it. That's the difference, I think, between going through mature children and kids that need to have their hands held. Heath has passed the heat, the handholding stage. It's, here's what the rule is. But it's Dan.

But it's Dan. But it's Dan. And approximately how many years has Dan been in a league that Heath has been the commissioner of? This isn't his first year. No, no. This isn't his first year violating, like, missing this. rule. But that you should, as commissioner, you should have been, you should have been prepared for that.

He was. And I don't have any, like, he, he seems to think that the greatest travesty here is being penalized a third round rookie pick. And I just don't see any problem with that. I don't either. You didn't pay attention. You did. And this is a stupid rule.

Is not a valid argument for I got caught breaking this. Well, Dan, I think you're out of luck here. I tried. I really tried. I think it's on you, man. The last thing I'll say is for Dynasty Manors, I think this part actually, like what you're upset with me about, I kind of makes, I know where you're coming from. Except that there's really like two things each year where the commissioner actually has the ability to make somebody do something. It's right before the draft, and it's when they're scoring fantasy points.

and the rest of the time, the rest of the year, you get caught in situations where you have to make empty threats to your friends that if they don't drop a player, you're going to have to go drop someone for them. And then you find yourself actually having to do that and looking like a bad commissioner

because you're removing players from teams. And if you do it before the draft, they actually have to do it. Okay, fair enough. And by the way, like, and this is a pointer for all the other commissioners out there. Let's say Heath let Dan,

retroactively drop players or let that trade go through like that just opens the door to more BS from other managers down the line and then they'll point back to what Heath did letting Dan get away with it and say well you let Dan do it why can't I do it

yeah so I applaud you Heath and I don't have a problem with dropping players for the draft it's what makes the league's even more competitive yeah so I think the highlight will be when Dan comes on and tries to defend this on Wednesday so everybody be ready for that. We're going to take a break. We'll give you our thoughts on Aaron Rogers back with court is adjourned until Wednesday. Court is adjourned until Wednesday. Fantasy cops have

settled it for now. Anyway, we'll be right back. We'll tell you about our thoughts on Aaron Rogers, an update on Buck Eurving. And I wouldn't be surprised if dot, dot, dot, dot, after this. Dan is a menace to society. That's from the chat. You know it would be the best, on Wednesdays, if we could just like clip the, I don't know, 10, the top 10 comments in the chat from today in response to Dan and just read those to him before he gives his side, just to get him good and amped up before, uh, before he gives his side. He's really mad. He's really mad.

All right, news and notes. Aaron Rogers should be mad at himself. He's signing a one year deal with the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know, it's pretty interesting. You look at his stats page. He's had basically like the same season three years in a row. with three different teams, obviously not counting the torn Achilles season. Last year in Green Bay, is one year with the Jets, it's one year with Pittsburgh. It hasn't really been that good.

It hasn't been terrible, though. And a running back has had more than 70 targets in two straight seasons with Aaron Rogers. That's cool. Breeze Hall and how many seasons, and I didn't include the FARB years, but Mike McCarthy from Aaron Rogers through Dak Prescott, how many 20-point fantasy seasons has he come? coached a quarterback too. Oh, a ton.

Oh, I'm going to say, out of how many total seasons? So it was 2008 through 2024 with a break, one year break. So 16. It was 13 seasons with Rogers and five seasons with that. Okay, so 18. 12. Yeah, I would say it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 12. I'll go 13.

17 of 18 seasons. He's had a couple over 20 fantasy points. It was the last year with Dak Prescott where he didn't average points per game. So there was the year where Dak played four years. games, you know, average over 20 fantasy points per game. So take out the backup quarterbacks there, but the Rogers DAC combo, 17 of 18 seasons, the quarterback's been over 20 finish points. We're thinking it's going to be 17 of 19.

Yeah, all good things must come to an end. All right, Bucky Irving will be limited in OTAs, but should be ready for training camp. He's got the offseason shoulder surgery that he's recovering from. Ryan McFadden of ESPN thinks that Raiders running back Mike Washington Jr. is in prime position to become the number two running back for Las Vegas. And Patriots wide receiver, Kayshan Booty, has not been at the team's facility during the voluntary OTAs, according to ESPN. And Booty might be a guy who gets traded.

We do have an A.J. Brown, I wouldn't be surprised if coming. It might be the last one we do. It's second to last one. All right, so let's get into it. And you just heard that stat about Dak Prescott under Mike McCarthy? Well, we're going to talk about the Dallas Cowboys. Dave says, I wouldn't be surprised. if every Dallas player underwhelmed.

Ooh, gasp. Think about where we're drafting C.D. Lamb, borderline first round pick. George Pickens, a second round pick. Dak obviously can meet expectations without being as good as he was last year. Javante, pretty much the same thing. But I've talked about it before. I think this Cowboys defense is going to be a lot better this year than it was last year. And if that defense is better, that means that the offense might not have to throw as much.

They were 61% pass before they acquired Quinn and Williams. That dropped to 56% after that. I could see this team playing at a little bit of a slower pace, being a little bit more balanced. And as far as Lamb and Pickens go specifically, we saw it last year when they were on the field together. They were both averaging right around 14 PPR points per game. Pickens is a little bit higher.

Pickens was pretty close to 15 PPR points per game. When we played Who Had More, you guys learned. Pickens had more yardage than Lamb last year when they were both on the field together. I just, that maybe we're overrating them just a little bit. And so I wouldn't be surprised if they underwhelm when the season's over this year. And assuming everybody stays healthy, Pickens is good.

Lamb is good. But they don't quite give you what you wanted when you drafted them. I just sorry, real quick, I'll let the guys jump in. Just to clarify, Pickens had more yards than Lamb when they were on the field together. That was specifically Week 7 through 17, which I think are the ones that really matter. But if you did go in weeks one and two, remember Pickens, Pickens really wasn't that involved the first couple of weeks, I think. If you throw in weeks one and two, I do think Lamb had more yards than Pickens.

But yes, Pickens did out gain him in week 7 through 17. This is interesting take. Heath, your thoughts on this? Because the Cowboys, the last two years, have been 31st and 32nd in defense. There are some years where they had a good defense and Dak Prescott still had a massive season. But the last two years have been, they've been one of the worst defenses, if not the worst, in football. Your thoughts? With a boring injury, I have a really hard time seeing DAC underperform.

I could see Lamb and Pickens cannibalizing each other and both finishing his high-end wide receiver twos, maybe. But I think the one that's harder for me, especially because of where he's being drafted, the one that's harder for me is deck. I get it. Does it stick in your crawl a little bit that DAC average 22 fantasy points per game and six point last year?

22, that's what I've got. I think that'd be pretty good where he's being drafted. Actually, 23.3. If you take out Week 18, that's even better, obviously. So, yeah, for where he's getting drafted, I don't think anybody would have a problem with that. What does this mean for Giovante, Jamie, if the Cowboys' defense gets better?

I think he's kind of in the same boat as Dak. You look at where they're getting drafted, like Javante's going to be a fourth-round pick, most likely based on his ADP. And so when you're talking about him in the teens at running back, in some cases, he may slip into the early 20s, depending on how people view some of the, you know, second year guys,

Scataboo Judkins, you know, maybe Juddian Price gets ahead of him. I don't think that'll happen, but you never know. But in any case, I think just where Giovante is going, given his expected role, like the backups there right now are not exactly the most exciting players. You know, it's not like we're talking about a Blake Corum threat, a Kyle Monongai threat. You know, Malik Davis is most likely going to be the number two running back there, and I don't think he's taking Jumante out the field very much.

So, you know, if Dave's theory is right and they throw the ball less, well, they're going to run the ball more. And we saw what that was like early in the season from a touchdown perspective for Devante. Now, the receptions are, you know, not great for him to begin with, at least especially what he does with the ball in his hands after he catches it. But I think when you're looking at Javante, you're looking at volume and that should stay the same. If the offense stays the same, it should get better if the offense, you know, the passing game potentially takes a step back. All right. I wouldn't be surprised if every Dallas player underwhelms that snow. Number one, that's from Dave.

Number two, I wouldn't be surprised. This one is from Heath if Tray McBride is not a top two tight end. And I think nobody's surprised, but I wouldn't be surprised by that. There's lots of sides to this one. The first one is the fact that Cardinals led the NFL with 649 pass attempts last year. I am not confident they're going to come really anywhere close. I think you can see a drop in 50 pass attempts. In fact, it's probably what I project.

The second one is that we didn't really with Jacoby Brissette see both Michael Wilson and Marvin Harrison together very often. I think when we do, that could cut into Tray McBride's 26% target share from last year, which was absolutely insane. And then the third one is I think there's a lot of tight ends. Colston Loveland, Sam Laporteur for me, Tucker Kraft, for some people who could get into that 14-ish point per game range this year, which is about where I expect McBride. ride to regress to. Okay. He was at, he was at 15.2 points per game in 2024. But yeah, it's a, it's all about, I don't know, Heath, I feel like it's all about Michael

Wilson. You know, I know you just brought him up. I think that's to me the biggest factor that stands out, because if he has a role, it's going to really be different for this offense. Yeah, I think the biggest factor to me is the total number of past the attempts, but that, that is right up there with that. And then I didn't say his name, because we talk about him all the time. but drew petzing how much does his departure change their target share because he i i found this

the other day you know he and kevin stefansky worked together for nine straight years before he left to go to arizona in the last three years when he was in arizona he and stefansky both had a 27 percent tight-in target share which like nobody else does um well andy reed does but um yeah i just think you could see if it's 23% and it's 600 pass attempts, that's a pretty big drop off. Okay, so that's Trey McBride. Would anybody be shocked? By the way, just two years ago,

he was tied in three per game, but just barely. He was behind Bowers and Kittle. But would anybody be shocked if, you know, if he weren't like a top, you know, I'll say he's not a top three tight end because sometimes there's a big difference between two and three.

The way they're being drafted right now, there's probably a big difference in perception between two and three. Jamie, how surprised would you be if McBride were not a top three tight end? Fairly surprised. I mean, you know, even the picture that Heath is painting and didn't even mention that their run game should significantly improve with the additions of Jeremiah Love and Tyler Alger. And even a healthy James Connor. I mean, you know, they were just a disaster last season.

So I factor that in as well. I think he's just too talented. Like, you know, he's got enough, I think, of an opportunity to lead this team in targets. and we're talking about can Michael Wilson do what he did in that stretch last year. Can Marvin Harrison, Jr. ever get to the level that he was drafted at? And those are still big ifs. You know, I mean, Wilson, even last season when everybody was healthy, he was not getting those opportunities. And Harrison, you know, until Jacoby Brissette really took over and we saw some glimpses of it,

you know, we still have to see it for a full season. So I still think McBride is too talented, too good, too much of a factor in this offense, to completely disappear or at least take a significant step back that he's not going to be in that range. But look, if you're drafting him first and you finish his fifth, it's disappointment. We draft him first and you finish his third. And we're talking about, you know, a point or two behind the top two guys because the other two guys or three guys, you know, as Heath alluded to with, you know, for him, it's LaPorteur. For a lot of people, it's Tyler Warren. You know, if those other guys that are getting drafted after the top two guys are all competing for the top spot, then I think you win with still taking McBride.

But if he takes a, you know, two or three point per game step back and there are a handful of guys that are better than him than it was a bust. All right, David, quick thought on this and we'll move on. I think McBride is going to remain their top target getter. I think he's too good. I think the new coaching staff is going to be worlds better at scheming up their players than the previous coaching staff. Here's something to remember with Michael Wilson. When he was on the field with Brissette and Marvin last year, it was 5.7 targets per game. He was kind of the odd man out.

McBride was not. Marvin Harrison Jr. wasn't catching a ton of targets. It was McBride. There is a star. There is a strong track record of Jacoby Brissette favoring his tight ends. It goes back for years. And I don't think that that's going away. I think McBride is such a weapon in the red zone, out of the red zone, that he's still

going to get a lot of volume. I am comfortable in full PPR with him as the top tight end. I would be surprised if he didn't finish the year as a top three tight end and full PPR. I think just one thing to keep in mind here is what did they do if Brissette is not their quarterback, meaning injury or they want to go a different direction. Is it Gardner to keep another veteran in there and keep everybody happy? Or is it Carson Beck?

And they start to see if maybe he's their quarterback of the future. That terrified me for the entire offense. Both scenarios in different ways. But obviously, it's a little bit more tough to trust these guys as high-end fantasy options, mostly McBride, if it's Carson Beck. And I also say, like, the things Dave said, I agree with. Like, they're going to throw the ball a lot to the jury McBride. but he had 169 targets last year.

Like you could, he could, it's kind of like that the Lions discussion last year, they're going to still be a top five offense. They're probably not going to be near as good as they were. So I think he could easily lose two or three targets a game and still be one of the top two or three targets to tight ends in targets. The question will be, does he get any better at turning targets into yards? Because he's never been close to a lead at that.

That's true. nine points per game last year, nine point two the year before that, and then he had a stretch, uh, his last 10 games of 2023, 8.5 targets per game. So it's been steady.

Yeah. I, I, I, I would agree with you too, Heath. I don't think he gets anywhere close to 10 targets or even nine targets per game this year, unless things go really wrong in Arizona.

And that would include Jeremiah Love, not being a factor at all. And I don't think any of us would be, I think all of us would be surprised if love was not a factor at all. Now, if you missed our Wednesday, Sorry, our Friday show. We talked about the schedule.

This show was on CBS Sports Network. They do have, Cardinals have one of the hardest schedules in the NFL based on last year's opponent win percentage. So they could be really bad again. They could be throwing the ball all the time. Let's move on to a former Cardinal here

is now a Minnesota Viking. Kyler Murray. Jamie says, I wouldn't be surprised if Kyler Murray is a top 10 quarterback. So you have the receiving court that just got better last week with the addition of Joanne Jennings.

Obviously, Justin Jefferson, still one of the best in the league. Jordan Addison is a very good complimentary guy. Maybe on paper the best trio wide receivers in the NFL. T.J. Hawkins is still going to be a factor. We know that when Kyler's right, he runs. He averages just about 36 yards per game in his career. Running the ball last year, for example,

number one in that category was Justin Fields at 42 yards per game. So he's probably going to be among the league leaders in rushing yards per game, or rushing yards, excuse me, at the quarterback spot. And then you have Kevin O'Connell, who arguably the best coach that he's ever worked with, at least, you know, based on what we've seen. So it's a great opportunity, great system. He's going to prove it season. I hope he wins the job over J.J. McCarthy.

There's still that wrinkle. But look, he's going to be a guy that I think anybody that is inclined to take two quarterbacks should be targeting. If you miss on the position because people already took two quarterbacks ahead of you, like this is the perfect fallback option to pair with another, you know, maybe safer veteran. Like you can go, Kyler Murray and Jared Gough, for example, I think that's a great pairing to, you know, have a little bit of a floor with a higher ceiling type of player. But Kyler, when he's been at his best, has been in the conversation to be a top five quarterback.

I don't know if I'll get back to that level. So I was kind of, you know, am I taking sort of the easy way out by saying top 10? And so you can definitely say that that's the case. But I can certainly see him being in the conversation if things go really, really well to be a top five quarterback. He's got just that type of upside if he's running the ball and taking advantage of these weapons. I don't expect that to happen.

So I'll, again, take the cop out and say top 10. but I think he's one of the best late-round values that you can find. His ADP right now is just absolutely fantastic. Yeah, it's a little weak, I think. I think you should have had to go a little higher than 10. Not necessarily to five, but maybe give me top eight. Yeah, I mean, eight's just like a weird number to say. Eight is a weird number.

What would surprise you more? Kyler Murray is a top five quarterback. Kyler Murray is not a top 20 quarterback. Not a top 20 quarterback. Top five quarterback. I guess I would say top five quarterback. If you told me that he's playing the full season, I might say not a top 20 quarterback.

But there's the risk that things don't go well for Minnesota and J.J. McCarthy starts a bunch of games. All right. Another great late round quarterback option, Kyler Murray. Let's talk about Parker Washington. I was going to take a break. But you know what? Let's do to Parker Washington first.

All right, Parker Washington, 24 years old. He was a sixth round pick. And boy, did he crush it? His last four games, 19 or more PPR fantasy points in all four, including the postseason. Dave says he wouldn't be surprised if Parker Washington turned into a top 20 wide receiver. You just talked about that huge finish down the stretch. I think he builds off of that in Jacksonville. He surprised me with the A dot.

And then when I watched the film to back it up, he can buggy down the field. He's got speed. And they also give him a lot of layups on top of it. So Adam, he's got what we look for from wide receivers. Layups and long balls. He's not just a short area target. He had a number of deep targets. He was running routes that I would expect to Brian Thomas Jr.

to run. Look at the post for a touchdown against Tennessee, a lot of other in-breaking routes. And I still think there's room for improvement there because there were a number of targets where he and Trevor just were not on the same page. There was a little bit of off-target throwing from Trevor. Or maybe Parker wasn't in the right place at the right time.

You might remember the interception against Buffalo. in the playoffs where that happened. Furthermore, the run game is a question mark. We don't know how good they'll be. ETN isn't there anymore. Brian Thomas Jr. is a question mark. We'll see what the reports are in training camp in August. And the defense might not be quite as good as it was last year.

So I think that just could lead to more volume opportunity for Parker Washington. I've changed my rankings in PPR. He's my favorite Jaguars wide receiver to target. Wow. Okay, Heath, your reaction to that? Dave would not be surprised if Parker Washington were a top 20 wide receiver. I would not be surprised if a Jacksonville wide receiver is a top 20 wide receiver. Do I have to pick one?

No, I just, I think I would still be surprised if Parker Washington is the best wide receiver on this team over a full season. Maybe that's leaning too much into who he was for most of his life before the last four games of last year, but it was just four games. and I think Jacoby Myers is going to get seven or eight targets a game. And I still have a lot of hope for Brian Thomas Jr. And Brenton Strange is still going to siphon off five or six targets a game. And I think Travis Hunter is still going to play maybe 30% of the offensive snaps. And so I just don't, I think Parker Washington is probably a part-time player who's a good boom-bust wide receiver three. When would you take him?

Is there a draft round that you've gotten mine? Not before round seven. I'm on the same page as you, man. Round seven. Is there a team that you can think of recently that we were like, man, there's just too many mouths to feed? Does that play it out that way? Or does the cream usually rise?

Who's the cream? Yeah, I don't know. Because I could sit here and make a case go, man, I really like the Jaguar's offense, but I'm not going to draft any of them. And it's really because Travis Hunter. If Travis Hunter is really going to be a factor here, then I think it's going to be bad news.

Were there too many mouths to feed for the chargers last year? Yeah. I think you can make it. You know, Park Washington reminds me of a little bit is Josh Downs, because he came off a strong finish in 2024, I'm not mistaken. And 2025, we had a lot of expectations for him moderately. So I should say a lot of moderate expectations for him. But we get these type of play, like Jalen Coker, same thing.

Like we get these guys that show small sample sizes of like sometimes just great, production and it just doesn't materialize over the course season. I don't think this is a bad take by any stretch because he was so good last year. The thing that I fear is kind of the Travis Hunter factor because, and I think we're going to get this with San Francisco too. They're getting so much bleep for the trade to get Travis Hunter and you're just hearing the same narrative this offseason again, we're not giving up on the plan. We're not giving up on him playing offense. He's not going to be a full-time corner. You know, Liam Cohen has said it. James Gladstone has said it. They've said in very public places.

So I just hope that it's not such a crowded receiving room with the tight end and running backs involved that we don't get the standout production from one of these guys. Because it would be great if we get at least one Jaguars wide receiver. Like he said, which one is? I don't know. I don't know either. I still think the most upside favor is Brian Thomas because what we saw from him in 2024, I don't think anybody else on this team can do.

That being said, you'll get probably a great stretch of Parker Washington, probably a great stretch of Jacobi Myers, probably a great stretch. probably a great stretch. I mean, you know, you brought this up time and time again, Adam. The game before Travis Hunter was placed on IR when he got hurt in practice, double-digit targets, they were feeding him the ball, and you look great. And so how much of that becomes a factor again. So I can see Parker Washington.

I think what the guy said in terms of his draft value, like round eight is the spot. You want to take a chance on him because that's when we get to that, you know, range of wide receivers where there's a lot of question marks. It would not shock me at all. And I don't think I'm going to do this, but it wouldn't shock me at all. if Parker Washington is one of the guys that gets dropped in the first month of the season, because he's just not getting those targets and opportunities that we're hoping for, and then everybody's racing to the waiver wire again because there's an injury or something happens.

Like, he could be one of those guys that just goes up and down in terms of production and even roster percentage. And it could be for multiple guys on this team. You know, we saw it last year. Thomas was benchable for the majority of the season. You know, Jacoby Myers didn't exactly take off and was a consistent fantasy starter when he got to Jacksonville. So it's just, it's a great thing to have if you're, you know, Liam Cohen and the Jaguar's offensive staff. It's a potential nightmare for fantasy managers because it could just be an absolute mess. Fair enough.

Well said. Last, I'll give you an encouraging Parker Washington stat. Ten games, including, they played one playoff game, including that game, Parker Washington played 70% or more of the snaps 10 times. He had seven or more targets in eight of those 10 games. He was on pace for 134 targets. in those 10 games. So that's per 17 games. So I think he didn't have a lot of games

where he played a lot and didn't get targets. Usually when Parker Washington wasn't good last year, it's because he wasn't playing. That's encouraging. But what's discouraging is the two years before that. And he did have a few where he played a lot and got targets and didn't score fantasy wins. From week seven on,

he averaged 14.4 PPR points per game on seven targets per game. The PPR points was on target, it was on the same pace as C.D. Lamb on one fewer target per game. Oh, nice. All right. We're going to take a break and come back with a Quinn Sean Juddkin. Guess who's talking about Quinn Sean Judkins?

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You like to talk about him a lot, which is cool. Hopefully you have more luck than I did with Pacheco. But you would not be surprised if Quinchan Judkins leads the NFL in Russia attempts. Yes, and everything I say about Quinchan Judkins, I always have to put the asterisk, assuming he's healthy. And I'm optimistic because he was at least there for some of the summer workout stuff. And the reports have mostly been positive that he's going to be healthy. And I just, I think he could lead the NFL in rush attempts if they don't trade miles. Garrett and this defense against arguably the easiest schedule in the NFL keeps them in games.

I think Todd Monkin, with his current quarterback situation, will be very happy to hand the ball off to Quinn Sean Judkins 20 times a game. And he can be one of those guys that challenges to be an RB1 without a large role in the passing game. We saw Nick Chubb do it in Cleveland in the past. We've seen Derek Henry do it over and over and over. I'm not saying he's going to reach their heights. but he could reach their volume.

And Quintan Jodkins played three games, which he played less than 40% of the snaps. And I take those games away. And two of them, one was because it was his first game coming off like a weird situation to start the year. Two of them were injury related. And if you take those games away, he was on pace for 314 carries,

18.5 per game as a rookie. Really impressive. So honestly, I'm just going to let this one. one sit, I don't think we need to really get into it too much. It makes a lot of sense. And it's something you should really keep in mind with Quinn John Junkins. Great call. Jamie, you would not be surprised. You mentioned Josh Downs a little bit earlier. You would not be surprised if Josh Downs is better than Alec Pierce. So Josh Downs, 20, 24, his best season so far of his career, obviously a very short career, but 13.1 PPR points per game. Last year, Alec Pierce,

his best season so far, 12.2 PPR points per game. Alec Pierce has never had over 100 targets in his career. Josh Downs in 14 games in 2024 had 107. So we know how Daniel Jones tends to operate. As you said, Adam, what number one in first read throws, right? No, I don't know that. I feel like he,

I felt like I saw that and he did that a lot. I don't know that for a fact that he was number of them. No, he definitely does that a lot. I just was, I remember what stat you gave. But in any event, I think Downs and Tyler Warren are certainly going to benefit

with the loss of Michael Pittman. Alec Pierce will as well. And look, they don't pay him to not make him a featured part of this offense and maybe the most featured part of the passing game. But again, you have a quarterback coming off a pretty significant injury that may want to get rid of the ball quick. And the guys that are going to be most in front of him, open and

available will probably be Tyler Warren and Josh Downs. So Downs is one of my favorite picks at this point. You know, you talk about those guys after round seven. He may be creeping into the first seven rounds. You know, he's just got that much upside and potential. So not that I'm not excited about Pierce, I think you could take a huge step forward. But 84 targets for him last year, can he get to that 120 target range. I think if again, you do the numbers, 107 targets in 14 games. Josh Downs is on pace for over 120 that season.

I think he's going to be in the conversation to be the most targeted player for the Colts. He's just an easy pick once you get to that mid-round of wide receivers. And again, wind shock movie is better than Pierce from a PPR standpoint. He's not going to score as many touchdowns, but I think he's going to catch more passes.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Was he not the leader on the Colts and targets per game in 2024? I would guess so. I'm double checking right now. Which is 24. Who can remember 2024? It was a long time ago. It was like four years ago or something.

I even know. While you check that, I can give, well, why don't you, Heath, why don't you give your reaction to this? Jamie, not surprised if Josh Downs is better than Alec Pierce? Yeah, I don't think I would really be that surprised by it as well. Alec Pierce, I think, is one of the most difficult guys. We may have even talked about him being so difficult to rank,

just because they're going to try to turn him into, presumably try to turn him into something he's not been in the NFL yet. And it's true that Josh Downs, A-DOT, and route depth has been much more similar to Michael Pitman's than Alec Pierce's has. And so I think it's fair to think that maybe more of those Pittman targets go two downs. I agree with Jamie. He's going to catch more passes. I think I haven't projected that way. But the past couple of years, and Alec Pierce target's been worth a lot.

lot more than a Josh Downs target. So he's probably going to have to out target him by a significant amount to be better in fantasy or just score more touchdowns. I think there's a real chance they could both be number three receivers in fantasy and just be guys that you'll start and hope for a boom week. And then maybe they don't crush you that bad. Maybe their average is right around 10 ppr points per game with it being a lot more up and down for Pierce than it is for downs.

Doubt to be more consistent of the two. Yes, in 2024, 7.6 targets per game. easily led the Colts in that category. He also had the most catches, the most catches per game, second in catch rate, second in receiving touchdowns, first in target per route run. This feels like a good call. I think in full PPR, Downs should get an expanded role with Pittman out of there. I worry about what he talked about, which is what's the value of a Josh Downs target.

If his A-Dod is going to be 6.9, which is what it was in 2024, that was 10th best on the Colts. I'm going through and updating my projections this week and just kind of taking a third or fourth look at things. And one of the things that I just kind of recognize this morning, this Shane Steigant offense has averaged 335 wide receiver targets per year the last three years. Their number three wide receiver might be Nick Westbrook. Or number four might be Dionne Burks. Like we might just be too low on both Alec Pierce and Josh Downs. The question I would have about Josh Downs is what's his slot rate going to be? Because Josh Downs has played three years.

I'll give you a player who has also played three years, but I'm going to look at the first two years of that player's career and the first three years of Josh Downs' career. Player A averaged 10.8 yards per catch and 7.6 yards per target. Josh Downs average 10.8 yards per catch, exactly the same, and 7.3 yards per target. they both were in the slot about 70% or more of the time. And their yards per route run, if you average them in the first two years for Player A

and the first three years for Josh Down, we're about the same. I think probably Josh Downs is probably a little bit better in that, if I had a guess. Player A was Jackson Smith and Jigbo. Player B is Josh Downs. JSN's career, whether he could have done that as a slot receiver last year, I doubt, but I don't know what he would have done. used to be a 70% slot guy.

Last year it was like 20%, which is really low. I don't know what Josh Downs is three inches shorter and 25 pounds lighter based on what I saw online. So I don't know if that's accurate, but he's not JSN. But my point is, I think they probably need to use him more on the outside if he's really going to reach his full potential. If he's a 75% slot guy, he's probably not playing enough, is my guess, to really, like, to really hit in fantasy.

So that's something on that's 75%. of what the receiving court looks like for the goal. He's so small. You were very close. I think it's what is his participation in two wide receiver sets. Sure. Yeah. Like you can play.

I hope he plays in the slot every time there's three wide receivers on the field. Yeah, I agree. But he needs to like, if we have Nick Westbrook out there on a passing down and Josh Downs is not, then they should just burn the whole thing down. How badly do you? Well, it's not fair to me to go look and see if Josh Downs. played in two wide receiver sets last year because they had Michael Pitman on the team. My guess is that they didn't.

Right. But his floor in slot rate over each of his first three seasons is 75.2%. Right now, I'm on the hunt looking for who the best wide receiver is that played in the slot a lot under Shane Steichen. And I think I've come up with Keenan Allen in 2020. He played in the slot 52% of the time. Remember, he had 10 and a half targets per game that year and he had 17.5 p.p.R points per game. Keenan Allen was an absolute lunatic that season. That's really about it. Slot receivers have not

been huge factors other than Josh Downs who had that would be the highest. Highest slot rate, 77 percent. That was in 24 and he had 13 PPR points per game. Yeah, you don't find, you don't find players who have big fantasy seasons with slot rates over 70 percent. I think Tyler Boyd might be one guy who did it. Maybe Keenan Allen had a season or something like that, but you just don't really see it basically ever. But he doesn't have to have a big season. You just have a, you know, he's a must-raster guy that we start a decent amount of times. Or he plays outside more.

Yeah, I hope so. I hope he does. We got one more round here. Dave, you would not be surprised if Jalen Waddle finished top 12 in PPR per game. Nope. I think Denver added him for a big reason. I think that that's one of the two biggest changes that the Broncos made this offseason.

The other one being Davis Webb as their play caller. I don't think their run game is going to be a major factor, which is too bad because they've got a great offensive line. We'll see if RJ Harvey can take the second step or if Jonah Coleman can take the first step. And I know that they spread the ball around so much last year. I wonder if they consolidated it this year because they have Waddle. And Waddle might not be like two and a half targets per game better than

Cortland Sutton, but he might be one target per game better because he can do more. He's more versatile of a receiver. We've seen that over his career. We know that he's speedy. I do worry about the injuries with Jalen Wadle, and I'll say that every single time. But when he's on the field and he's right,

I would expect him to be at least a low end number two wide receiver in fantasy, if not potentially a top 12 guy. So I wouldn't be surprised if he finished as a top 12 guy. This one would surprise me a little bit. But you've been pretty pro-Waddle ever since the trade. So I think I like your enthusiasm for him. He's a terrific player. We just hope we can see that again.

Heath, how surprised would you be if Jalen Waddle finished top 12 per game in PPR? I would be pretty surprised. I think it would make if Cortland Sutton gets hurt and J. Lynn Wattle gets to score more touchdowns than maybe not. We've seen Sean Payton in the past really hyper-focused the passing game on one wide receiver. It's not what he's done in Denver, even when Sutton was, I guess Sutton had one year where I think he had 100. 30 targets. But they've been so spread the ball around over the last few years that it would take a major change in philosophy.

Okay. That is Jalen Waddle. We got two more. This one is Heath's. Oh, yeah. Let's go. This one, yeah,

this one fired me up like a dynasty draft debate. Heath would not be surprised if A.J. Brown goes to the Patriots and has his worst season since he left Tennessee. Now, to frame that, 2022 through 2025, he was with Philadelphia. AJ Brown, I'll go from 2022 and then to the most recent year.

He averaged 17.9, 17.3, 16.7. And then last year, 14.7 PPR fantasy points per game. That's the last four years. Heath is saying he'll be even worse than 14.7 PPR fantasy points per game. Oh, no, he wouldn't.

I'm sorry. He wouldn't be surprised. he wouldn't be surprised if AJ Brown has his worst season in the last five years. Yeah, I don't know that this is, and funny, I think this is saying basically his worst season since he was with Mike Brable, right? Okay, you know what? I don't know if he was worse in Tennessee or last year in Philadelphia. I will check that for you.

Okay. Yeah, his last year in Tennessee, it might be a per game thing. You're right. He didn't score as many touchdowns. 13.9 points per game in 2021, his last year with him. Mike Vable. I don't expect the Patriots to turn into a pass heavy offense. And it's kind of the same thing we just talked about with the Broncos is how much is

Josh McDaniels going to change the spread the ball around plan if they go and spend a lot to get A.J. Brown. And then the other thing is, and nobody wants to hear this, but is A.J. Brown at 29 years old starting to slow down at all. I don't want to hear this. you can like you can make the case looking at he wasn't bad last year at all but you can make the case looking at last year that there was a little bit of a drop off from the insane efficiency that is approved given throughout of his career yeah uh i'm looking now by the way just i was like you know i wonder if there's some partial games in that 2021 season oh yeah we got a 12% snap game we got a 52% snap game we got a lot of Azorstatting to do for that year. I think AJ Brown's had a little atherstating most of his career, hasn't he?

He played hurt last year. Maybe he's at that point where he's going to have trouble staying healthy. I guess my counter would just be, if you look at the very best season that the Eagles passing game had in the AJ Brown era, it was 2022, his first year there, it was 4,364 yards and 25 touchdowns. Last year, Drake May threw for 4,426 yards and 31 touchdowns. I just feel like there's pretty much no way he's not going to be on a better passing environment, even if they're not pass heavy.

They're going to be so much, especially what the Eagles were last year. Last two years, Eagles have been 3,500 yards and 25 touchdown. So he's going to blow that away in New England. Dave? I think their pass offense will blow that away, yes. I think Drake May's pass efficiency will also regress a little bit. I still like Drake May. I'm still drafting him as the top three quarterback,

but I think he's probably not going to complete 72% of his passes and average nine yards per pass attempt. How surprised, Dave, would you be if A.J. Brown had his worst season in five years? Moderately surprised, but not. You mentioned it. He's getting older, and he was little hurt last year, played through it, did the best that he could. there were times where he definitely looked like he was hurt.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was the reason why. It wouldn't be because of the offense, though, in New England. I just think that having Drake May throwing to you and that team could end up throwing a lot more this year than they did last year. And Brown would be the top target. I think he'd have a chance to have some good numbers. Final thought, Jamie? And this trade better happen, by the way. Right, right.

I've resisted doing the work on it because what if the trade doesn't happen? Oh, that better. Jamie, how surprised did you be? Or just he goes to a different team. Like we get AJ Brown to the dolphins or the Rams. I don't know that there's a team

or the Rams would be bad, but if there's a team, is there a team that he goes to that he's worse than last year, 14.7 PPR fantasy points per game, which isn't even that bad, but not great. I mean, there was a stretch last year where he was averaging over 19 PPR points per game.

So, you know, he still has that, you know, gear in him. At least I still expect him to have it. age and potential injury not be a factor. But like he gets worse. I think the Rams obviously is one just because it's so crowded there. Jaguars. Do we default to Cleveland?

Yeah, they could be bad. I mean, almost any receiver that goes there. Jets would be bad. All right, I'll let Jamie finish here with his last one. Jamie would not be surprised. This is a Mike McDaniel special here. Would not be surprised if O'MHampin has a better fantasy season than Devon A-Champ. It is all tied to Mike McDaniel.

Mike McDaniel, with his time in Miami, got a touchdown leading season out of Rahim Moster. He had two great seasons out of Devon A-Chant. And now he leaves the Dolphins in what could be a very messy situation offensively, at least for 2026. And he goes to the Chargers, which should have one of the better offensive lines, you know, getting three new guys on the interior and getting their tackles back, getting a guy that was a first-round pick in Amerian Hampton, and showed a lot of great examples of being.

a potential standout running back next season. And A. Chan's situation is just potentially awful here in Miami, as we saw last year in the three games without Tua, the passing efficiency got a little bit worse. And so Will Malik Willis, who is probably more apt to run than Tua was. I think that's easy to say. He's not going to throw the ball to A. Chan as much. Hopefully there'll be a lot of design passes for him. And we get that easy opportunities because we talked about this last week. The Dolphins receiving core is bad.

he hopefully will be among the target leaders on this team. He's certainly been among the target leaders at his position for the last two seasons. But I wouldn't be surprised if the receiving numbers are close and Hampton's going to score more touchdowns. And I don't know. Mike May Daniel's influence is pretty big on this position. He was the running backs coach in San Francisco before taking the job in Miami. So I love the upside for Hampton and I'm very nervous about the downside for H.N. Does anybody have concerns about Amarian Hampton?

Or is he a pretty safe pick in your mind? I don't think you could have safe in terms of a guy that didn't play a full season last year. And he knows rookie season. So there has to be some concerns. I think he's safe to be an RB2. And he has the upside to be a good RB1. I'd be shocked if he's drafted as an RB2, though. Right.

Also, you guys didn't actually resolve the fantasy cops. Can I just bring one thing up here before we do that? I got to call out Jamie for something. I mean, this is. Amar and Hampton is basically going back to back with Devon A. Chan. Come on. You got to be bolder than this. Good.

I was just piggybacking off the Jacksonville streaming defense last week. I thought that's just the route we're going. Oh, come on. Come on. Yeah, this is nice. This is not what Jamie's all about. Jamie's usually bolder than this. Top 10 for Kyler.

I don't know. I did this after talking to you and the whole Dan thing. I was just, you know, let me get. I didn't want to make you guys wait. And also, it seems like I'm being a little hard on Dan. I just want everybody to know. He's one of my,

he's one of my, he's my favorite colleague. Don't tell my other colleagues that, but he's my favorite colleague. I love Dan. He's a great guy. A lot of fun. He's the,

he's my favorite character in the TV show of life. Yeah. But he's a character. What did we not resolve? The draft is currently paused. Yeah. What was the ruling?

Do I allow the trade? Do I not allow Dan to make a pick? No, I would allow it. I mean, is, I would, so you're talking about the trade of him and Stefan swapping players back so they can have room to make picks. I would not let Dan walk out of this draft without at least three picks. I think Doc, I'm a fourth round pick. It is his fault. He's being publicly shamed right now.

I think that's kind of a pretty harsh penalty. Don't let him make a fourth pick. He doesn't deserve that. But I would let him make a third pick personally. And Dave and Jamie said no. Nope. No, I think Dave said it best. If you allowed the trades to continue like this,

you're setting a precedent that it's allowed to trade back and forth the same players to make yourself better in terms of your fantasy roster, which is the definition of collusion. And so if you're going to allow him to make a third, round pick. He should have, you tell him, I'm starting the clock. You have three hours, which is what your timer is, to find a way to make a trade that

is valid to get players off of your roster to make a pick. Let me just ask you this. Real life scenario here. Let's say the Giants were about to play a game at 1 o'clock, and it's 1128, and they haven't submitted their inactives yet, right? And you got to do it by 1130? Don't you think Roger Goodell is on the phone with the Giants going, guys, where are you inactive? I mean, that's how you do it.

That's exactly how life works. And John Harbaugh is going to say, wait a minute, I didn't get an email from you, Roger. I didn't know the inactives were due then. Give me a break. Adam, you remember the made-up rules that you implement in your leagues? No, I make them up as I go. I don't remember. Correct.

And you've punished me twice for. Oh, no, this is total your fault. I told you 100 times you had to drop someone. You didn't do it, and I dropped someone for you. And I'm trying to prevent that. You did. Yeah. Right?

You made an imaginary rule and then you followed through with it and you punish me. So Heath has an actual rule that's in place and you're telling him to allow the person who's breaking that rule to get away with it. Okay. I think that, you know, I'm sorry, what? Couldn't hear you through the hypocrisy. No, not at all. I just think, I think that, look, this is the rookie draft of a dynasty league.

This is really, really important, right? It didn't seem like it was that important to Dan. Well, it is important to Dan. It's just, he's a little, okay, if there's a word I would use for Dan, it's scatterbrained. Okay? So he's a little scatterbrained. And this is the rookie draft of your dynasty. You're building the foundation of your team.

This is the second year of the league. So it's not like the original draft. But you're building the foundation of your team. This is really important. I know he screwed up. And I do believe there should be a penalty. I don't think we should take away his third round pick. You're still, like, I just drafted.

No, no, no, you're not, you're not taking away his third round pick. He does not. have the ability to make a third round pick without doing something illegal. All right, so you're basically forcing him to make an actual trade to free up a roster spot to take. Yes, which he did in his second round pick, which was perfectly legal.

That's the rule. He could trade his third and his trade his third and his fourth and one of those players for a later pick and all right, I would probably suck it up and say it's over. I would have just expanded the roster as I don't like the rule

personally. So you would have beat up another. rule just to suit your, uh, your commissionership. Wait, make up another rule. What do you mean?

You would just change the rules based on what you wanted it to be. Well, as a commissioner, yeah. I mean, that's, I would make my rule. No, I don't mean,

I wouldn't change it right now, but I would have just done it differently to begin with. I would have just said, all right, you can make your draft picks and then make some cuts later. I would have expanded the rosters. See, but if you don't make them in time,

I'll just remove players from your team. There's another part of this, which this will, this will be a tease for Wednesday. because I wouldn't say it, I wouldn't reveal it until Dan is here. There's another part of this that he texted you that needs to be said.

The email thing? Don't have to say anything more. Just have to tune in Wednesday. Good tease. Good tease for Wednesday. All right, good stuff today, guys. I wouldn't be surprised if I've lost a friend today when Dan listens back to the show.

No, you defended Dan. You're definitely Dan's defender. I tried. I tried my best. I like Dan, too. What did you say? I like Dan, too. We all do.

He's the best. All right. He brings so much content. If nothing else, he provides so much content. It's really important piece for us here at Fantasy Football today. We will talk to you Wednesday. Have a great day, everybody. See you.

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