Fantasy Football Today - Bounce Backs for Christian Kirk and DK Metcalf? Plus 6 Tips to Build a Great Roster! (03/06 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

You want a bold prediction for free agency or trades? We'll start the show with a few of those (2:10) and then get into the news (6:40) on Christian Kirk and DK Metcalf as Metcalf wants a trade and Kirk has been released. Can these guys bounce back in 2025 and to what degree? What do the numbers say? ... Six tips for building a great roster (21:30)! How many tight ends and quarterbacks should you draft? How aggressive should you be with rookie wide receivers? ... We hear from the Fantasy Cops (46:00)! One of our audience members has joined two absolutely horrible Fantasy leagues ... Your emails at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We'll make a bold prediction about free agency or trades in just a moment. We're also gonna give you tips for building your roster, how to build it the best way. And the fantasy cops are coming on the show later today. We haven't heard from the fantasy cops in a while. I don't even know where the music is. There it is. Yeah.

Soothing sounds of the fantasy cops music. I'm Adam Hazer with Jimmy Isenberg and Dave Richard. Give me a bold prediction for free agency or a trade that will go down some time in the next week. Who wants to start? Naji Harris to the Raiders. Yeah. DK Metcalf to the Patriots. Oh, that was mine. I wrote it. I typed it in everything, Dave.

You think they'll be stupid enough to pay what Diana Rossini said? I would hope not, but a third and then giving DK the money that he wants that and it's an early third. Would you do it for a second round pick? Would you give up an early second round pick for DK Metcalf? No. No. Yeah. First and a third is reportedly what the Seahawks are looking for, for Metcalf. I just would be surprised if that. Well, it takes one team. It does.

There will be no team giving a first and a third. I hope not. What about? I got another one. What about the Bills? Would the Bills give a first and a third? No. I mean, look, would they?

Again, I hope not, but it wouldn't surprise me if it one team does. I'll take if Buffalo really wanted him Maybe they could be compelled to give up their second For DK Metcalf and another pick like a six But I got another prediction for you. Okay Cooper cut to the Jaguars for a conditional seventh round pick Okay, how do we feel about that? Have fun drafting. Right. I mean, he would take over the Christian Kirk role.

He knows Liam Cohen and what this offense is going to ask of him. Seems like a fit. I'm trying to find, here we go. I'm trying to find what the bills gave up for Stefan Diggs. So it was a seventh round pick and a first round pick. I don't know why it was listed that way. I'm reading this article. They gave up a first round pick.

Oh, they got a seventh round pick. They got Diggs and a seventh round pick for a first round pick. Oh, they got a seventh round pick. They got digs and a seventh round pick for a first, a fifth, a sixth, and a fourth in next round's next year's draft. So this was 2020 and 2021. That's a big haul. So the 22nd overall pick, a fifth, a sixth and a future fourth for digs and a seventh. That's what happened. He was 26. Metcalf's 27. What was he 25 at the time? I could look that up,

but I feel like Metcalf was probably more accomplished than Stefan Diggs at that point. Diggs really took off in Buffalo, but let's see. And accomplished in what you think of a player, totally different things. He was going, I, yeah, I don't know that anyone thought Stefan Diggs was anything like what he became. His best year was 1130 yards. And then he, 2020, he went to the Bills at age 27 and put up a 1500 yard season.

I recall I said a few times prior to him leaving that he would be one of the guys that we say may never live up to his potential because the team that he's on. Do you feel that way about DK Metcalf? And they've never liked it. He came back at his what he is. Which is what which is a very good number to receiver. For fantasy for NFL. Okay.

All right. Well, listen, I want to give everybody a quick heads up about next week. So usually we record at 10 a.m., Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Schedule's gonna be a little bit different. We're kind of, let the news dictate it. If there's big breaking news, we'll probably hop on for a bonus podcast. But as of right now, our tentative plan is certainly Monday.

Hopefully, I'm thinking Monday through Thursday based on previous seasons, about three o'clock p.m. Eastern. So no matter where you are, you should have a show for your afternoon commute home. That's roughly what we're going to do. We'll kind of recap the day's events. But if there's a lot going on, we might hop on for more shows. But we're going to have a lot of programming for you next week as free agency opens. And even though teams can't, when can teams officially sign players? Wednesday,

Thursday, Wednesday, they will know, we'll know about on Monday where guys are going. So we'll keep you updated. Well, the 10th is the open, open window of negotiating. It's already been happening for weeks. Right, right. But the 10th is when we're going to start getting the reports that this guy's going to this team. That's Monday. So we will have a lot for you next week.

So news and notes, the Jaguars are releasing Christian Kirk, the Seahawks are releasing Tyler Lockett and DK Metcalf has requested a trade. Just a real quick thing here. Three career games without DK Metcalf for Jackson Smith and Jigba 16.3 points 12.9 points 37 PPR fantasy points 7 7 and 13 targets in those three games one of them in 2013 2023 the other in 2022 in 2024 all right but let's talk about Kirk who's 28 and Metcalf who's 27 both coming off disappointing seasons Metcalf was 30 let's see what he was per game. He was 32nd per game in half. I don't work season. I was correct

Yeah And this is after three straight years basically finishing his wide receiver 22 or so per game in in full PPR, so Yeah, so do we think Kirk and Metcalf are due for bounce backs? I think in Metcalf's case, he, his last two seasons have been disappointing and you could point to Dino Smith maybe and the struggles of the quarterback change. Um, look, if he gets with an elite quarterback, which you could say maybe the end of his tenure with Russ was somewhat above average quarterback, there's the chance for him to be a very good fantasy option. You

know, he's got two seasons on his resume of double-digit touchdowns. He can easily be a 10 touchdown guy. So if he goes to Buffalo, if he goes to the Chargers, if he goes to the Steelers and they fix their quarterback situation, he goes to the Patriots and Drake May has the breakout season that he's potentially capable of. I mean, there's a lot of destinations that will help him. But I think, you know, if you get him with the right quarterback, yes, there's certainly bounce back potential there. If he goes to, let's say the Raiders is reunited with Pete Carroll and they're going with a younger quarterback or another, you know, type of guy, then it's, it's not going to be as, as

easy to point to. I think in the case of Kirk, you know, you're looking at bounce back to what like bounce back to the 2022 season he had in Jacksonville when the first when he first signed there, or just a guy that can be a 12 to 13 PPR point per game type of player which is you know borderline starter so can you get back to that level yes again right situation right team like I wouldn't be surprised you know Dave you said Cooper Cup to Jaguars what about Kersh and Kirk to the Rams and he replaced his cup in that role you know so that would certainly be a good landing spot for him but if he goes let's say let's say the Packers, and he's part of a crowd receiving core, then

probably not so much. I think Kirk gets squeezed between other free agent receivers and all the white outs in this draft. I'm nervous that he won't have as big of a role as he had in Jacksonville the last couple of seasons. I think if you look at him and you think a good bench receiver, 10, 11 PPR points, I think you'll be okay. That's short of him going to LA and straight up replacing Cooper Cup.

That would be amazing. I'll take it all back if that happens. DK was on his way to a pretty good year last year. His first seven games, 15.1 PPR points per game. Then he got hurt and he just wasn't the same guy. So I think that there's potential for him. It does come down to the landing spot and the right quarterback. And Jamie, you mentioned some good places. What if he ends up being the replacement for Deandre Hopkins in Kansas City and the Chiefs just go all in on improving their receiving core.

I think it would be a little silly, might be a little overkill, but I think we'd be very excited about DK Metcalf in that type of situation. I think you could get around 15 PPR points per game. Yeah, I don't think they can afford it with what they're doing right now. That can make gap room.

You know, look, it's probably not gonna happen, but it's just for a fun hypothetical. If DK Metcalf went to the Chiefs, who would how would you rank the three Chiefs receivers wide receivers? Man, it's tough. I think I think Rice would still be the top target getter. And Metcalf might be be second and Worthy might be third. I don't think I would rank any of them in the top 20 because of just overkill of who's going to be stealing targets from who with Kelsey still there.

If they are aggressive in getting DK Metcalfe, Metcalfe would be my favorite team. Because they think Rice is not healthy or suspended and worthy. I'm at the point where I worthy might be better than rice. Yeah. Hey, baby, let's do that. Yep. That's what I'm talking about. It would be that way if there's a significant suspension for Rishi rice.

There's no question. Why did I say, hey, baby, let's do that to Jamie? That was really strange. So, you know, it's fantasy. It's exciting. The Holmes would get a bump. Kelsey would get a bump. Kelsey would get a bump the other way.

I don't wanna get too down this pretty unrealistic rabbit hole, cause Jamie's right. And they have like no money to spend and they just franchise their guard. But yeah, but they just got rid of another guard who was making some bank. They don't have to pay him anymore. DK, so DK-

Yeah, but they have to fix it. I mean, it's just, that's why they're doing it because they have to pay him anymore. They have to, they have to fix it. I mean, it's just, that's why they're doing it because they have to pay other players. So Dave, DK was on his way to a good season. Hold on real quick. Chiefs have the fourth lowest amount of cap space right now. They're actually over the cap. DK was on his way to a good season,

but I did want to point out. So in those first seven games before his injury, he was number 17 wide receiver per game, number 15 per game in non-KPR. Geno Smith was averaging 40 pass attempts per game. So it does cloud it a little bit. Like he only had a 22.7% target share, and that was with Tyler Lockett.

Yeah, still, yeah, he's on pace for 112 targets, actually, Lockett. So in those seven games. So it was good, like the raw games, so it was, it was, it was good. Like the raw numbers were good for Metcalf, but when you consider they were throwing 40 times a game, it wasn't really that great comes back after his injury. JSN is outpacing him outplaying him. But, um,

again, he's, he's only 27 and the three years before last year, let's just take a look at where he finished per game in full PPR. He was wide receiver 23, 22 and 23 per game. Last year he was 32nd per game, but I'm, we did that bounce back episode last month and that was one of my guys and I said, I think he can bounce back to being wide receiver 22, 23 per game.

If he's on, if he goes, if he goes to team with unestablished quarterback, right? So like there, there, there's a Tennessee, Tennessee, uh, Raiders, um, you know, pick, pick your team. That's, that's looking to add a quarterback in the draft or, you know, doesn't have their guy right now. Do you still feel that way? No. Yes. Because he has. So, okay, let's take a look at where Seattle has ranked in past attempts in his six seasons. 23rd, 17th, 31st, 15th, 17th. Last year they were seventh. But before that never higher than 15th. What if he goes to a team that like the Raiders, the Raiders were fourth and past attempts

last year. I'm not saying they would. Yeah, but it's new quarterback coordinator. I'm just saying what if he goes to a team that throws the ball a ton and he is the unquestioned number one guy, could he get you 140, 150 targets? He basically never does that. So he could. I mean, the scenario you're probably bringing up is, is maybe Tennessee. Uh, but you know, with Ridley still there, yes, he's the number one guy had a Ridley, but at least there's somebody else there. But it's like the Patriots, like they've said, you know, the Patriots are the team. Like, I think everybody's looking at right now, cause they were supposed to be all in on T Higgins.

They have clearly the money to spend. They'll spend the draft capital. I would, I would anticipate again, not, not necessarily going all into what the, the reported offer is, they'll spend the draft capital. I would anticipate, again, not necessarily going all into what the reported offer is, but a high third, maybe a conditional second, something like that. If he plays a certain amount of snaps and reaches a certain amount of numbers, it goes from a three to a two. But again, to what heights does he bounce back to?

Does he bounce back to the 17, whatever point per game he was in his second season, or does he bounce back to the 17 whatever point per game he was in his second season or does he bounce back to the 14 plus point per game, which he's kind of living been living in? Yeah, right. No one's I don't think anyone's you look at his player page. We're on it right now. YouTube.com fantasy football today.

No one's going to project him to get to the 17.6 that he was 17.6 PPR fantasy points per game in his second season. 1300 yard 10 touchdown season. Russell Wilson was a monster that year. I do have to take a break. So we interrupt this DK Metcalf programming very briefly. We're gonna take a break, come back, we'll wrap this up. There's some more news items there.

And we'll sort of talk about, I wanna talk about how Kirk and Metcalf fit in with the rest of the free agent class and throw in a guy like Devante Adams as well. All right. We'll be right back after this on fantasy football today. All right, Dave, I know you wanted to make one more point on DK Metcalf. Sure. So we talked about the cap space being tied on Kansas city. They're 2 million over the cap as of this show. Buffalo is at 9 million over the cap as of this show. So those two

teams are probably pie in the sky dreams, but those are the type of teams that I would want to go to, uh, to have a shot at being a top 24 fantasy receiver on draft day. Here are the top six teams in cap space. You tell me, uh, how you would feel about DK on these teams. And then we can move on. Patriots have 120 million plus available. Yeah. Raiders are next. They've got 95 million. Chargers at 90 million. That would be interesting. Cardinals at 77 million. Commanders at 64 million. No. I don't think I'd be happy if he went there, but I would get why they would want to. There were some, um, there, there were some commanders, uh, beat riders speculating that Kirk to Washington makes some sense.

Yeah. Reunites with Cliff Kingsbury, but they just got Debo. So where does Kirk fit in with Debo is not the slot guy that we're making him out to be. He, no, but they're also losing. They're also losing Noah Brown, Diamine Brown and Zacchaeus, you know. So it's like, you know, how are you replacing all these guys? And if they're going to veteran route,

then make some sense. And we have seen Christian Kirk play outside before. Not a good version of Christian Kirk, by the way. And they might be in the state. He is. It would just make it easier for us to pass on on draft day. Vikings have 60 million plus. Yeah, no. Steelers almost 60 million.

That would be well, because if they can assign Justin Fields, I wouldn't really want, Oh, Russell Wilson, the Metcalf. When you look at it, it's the Steelers were in on almost every receiver last year from training camp through the trade deadline. They're going to be aggressive if they really want to go get them. The Patriots are going to be aggressive to go get them. The Chargers are probably going to look to add a wide receiver. And I think you could see the Raiders making some sense.

So what would be your favorite destination of the ones mentioned? Chargers. Patriots will probably throw more than the Chargers will because I think they're going to be behind a bunch. And he would be on question number one. Sorry. Patriots will probably throw more than the Chargers will, because I think they're going to be behind a bunch. And he would be on question number one. Sorry. Okay. Well, it does make things,

I guess the last point I want to make, just the last point, is that DK Mechav is 27, Christian Kirk is 28. Kirk is coming off a really disappointing year, especially when you consider the four games he played with Evan Ingram and obviously Brian Thomas Jr. He was barely targeted, like a 17% target share or something. 5.9 targets per game on the year.

Right. But even worse than that when you look at the Ingram games. So I only played eight games. The year, two years ago, Kirk was really good. He led the team in targets. He was their guy. Then the year after that, he was better than Calvin Ridley. He barely played week one from weeks two through 11, I think it was. He averaged over 14 fantasy points per game. So he was still a good player. Last year was disappointing, but you've got a 27-year-old in DK Mech, half of them might get traded.

You've got a 28-year-old free agent now in Christian Kirk. They're per rate, they're per target, per catch, per route run stuff. It still looks pretty similar. It's not like we're talking about washed up guys. It's a bad wide receiver class. If Metcalf gets traded, and obviously Kirk's now available, that's good. I mean, it's better than what we had.

It's better than what we had, so it's good. All right, more news items here. Uh, the chargers released Joey Bosa, the Bengals, uh, defensive end Sam Hubbard, he retired. The Raiders are expected to release Gardner Minshew. Just so you know, Brock Bowers was slightly better with Minshew than he was with O'Connell, but pretty negligible difference there. All right. Tankdale had another knee surgery this time to repair his torn ACL. So he's having ACL surgery in March. He's already had surgery to repair other ligaments. I don't know how you can expect much, if anything

from Tankdale this year. The Eagles resigned linebackers- That's a scene that's going to be looking at receiver help, for sure. The Eagles resigned Zach Bond, linebacker Zach Bond, three- looking at receiver help for sure. Yep. The Eagles resigned Zach bond linebackers act bond three year deal, $51 million. The Raiders gave Max Crosby a huge extension. They made him the highest paid non quarterback in football. Cooper cup is unlikely to stay with the Rams. We already knew they were looking for trades, but now they say the least likely scenario is him coming back to the Rams.

Cleveland left guard Joel Bittonio is going to come back for 2025 and the Raiders are signing Alex Cappa who was just released by the Bengals offensive guard. They're giving him a two-year deal worth about 11 million dollars. That's nothing. Max Crosby broke the bank as you mentioned. Anything else you guys want to say before we talk about our roster building tips? You don't think you ever talked about Saquon's extension? I mentioned it yesterday. Yeah. Well, what else is there to say? Yeah, kind of how I felt.

And there's so many rumors and things right now I don't even feel like are worth talking about because it's all gonna come to a head next week, basically. Okay. What a transition. Best ways to build your roster. I asked you guys for two roster tips. Could be draft tips, could be in season, whatever. Dave, why don't you give me a roster tip?

Um, the first thing that I would say is, I don't know what the tight end position will genuinely look like after the first two guys go off the board. So you're going to have to make a decision on how, how bold you want to be on Brock Bowers or Trey McBride. But if you, if you miss on one of them, I'm not opposed to double dipping on tight ends and ending your draft with two of them, take two shots at high upside tight ends. We've talked about guys that have that potential. Tucker Kraft and Isaiah likely literally the season ended and we started talking about those guys as

players that can be good fantasy factors next year. There's going to be other guys that come into the fray, certainly some rookies that could end up being a factor. I like the idea of getting a couple of tight ends on my team as long as I, maybe even if I do get Brock Bowers early, I get Tyler, Tyler Warren late, or I get Isaiah likely around round eight, round nine, if he lasts that long, who knows where he'll end up going. But that's a position that I want to double dip on, take two shots at trying to find one stud. Okay, and that I'll just transition to draft two quarterbacks. And my roster tip is draft two quarterbacks. Don't let Jamie make fun of you. Draft two quarterbacks, even if you

draft an elite one, you don't have to draft two quarterbacks. Okay, this isn't an ultimatum. But if if you look at the last two seasons, we have had top six finishes from quarterbacks who were drafted as QB 10, Dak Prescott, QB 26, Jordan Love, QB 19, Brock Purdy. That was in 2023. Last year we had top six finishes from QB 21 in ADP, Baker Mayfield, QB 12, Jaden Daniels, QB 15, Jared Goff. In addition, Patrick Mahomes has been a bust two years in a row.

Joe Burrow was a bust as QB 5 in ADP in 2023, and that wasn't just because of injury. Justin Herbert was QB 6 in 2023. He was a bust, huge bust. Last year, Patrick Mahomes was a bust again, as I mentioned. CJ Stroud and Anthony Richardson were drafted as top six quarterbacks. They were both huge busts. So don't be afraid, even if you draft a great quarterback,

there are awesome quarterbacks available late. Keep them away from other teams or get them for yourself. Draft two quarterbacks. Most of the leagues that we play in have six man benches. If you have a five man bench, are you doing the same? Absolutely. I mean, again, it's not set in stone. I don't have to.

But yeah, I will. Yes, I will absolutely be open to it and probably will do it. So you have four other roster spots to play with. Until when will you drop that second quarterback if you need to make a move? Yeah, no, I mean, it could be as early as week one, you know It's that it's it's like any other roster spot But you don't want to miss out on a great player who could have a huge impact each just because he's a quarterback You want to give me a roster tip?

Jamie I mean I was gonna say the same thing I say all the time is just wait on the quarterback and you kind of made the argument for me just looking at the same thing I say all the time is just wait on the quarterback and you kind of made the argument for me just looking at to the top five quarterbacks drafted and ADP finished his top five quarterbacks and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. You referenced a few of the bus from last year. You referenced some of the guys that were taken late or free agents. Don't forget Sam Donald and how he performed that finishes top 10 quarterback. So again, year over year, it proves itself out to be the same thing all the time. Now granted, you got to hit on one of these guys, but to your point, if you want to take

chance on two of them late, then it's not a bad move. I just wouldn't do it with a five-man bench. I think that's a waste of a roster spot with such a thin bench, but because you'll have more quarterbacks available on waivers in those type of formats as opposed to with six-man benches, you'll probably see more teams taking two quarterbacks there. But the point would be is that don't spend an early round pick on a quarterback. Well, I

early is too early. First three rounds. Okay, I think also, I think the bigger takeaway for me is Jamie changes his bench strategy quite a bit for five bench five man bench versus six man bench. And obviously get any deeper than that you have to draft to you definitely should be drafting two quarterbacks, I And obviously, you get any deeper than that. You have to draft two quarterbacks. You definitely should be drafting two quarterbacks, I would say, if you get any deeper than that. But yes, understanding the bench size, league size, obviously, and what's going to actually be available on waivers should also impact your draft strategy. All right. Round two of roster tips. Dave. I mentioned this last year. Let's double dip on this.

Patience is needed when you go after those dart throws, sleeper picks, whatever you want to call them in rounds eight plus. I would have hated to have been the guy, and for all I know, I did this in a bunch of leagues and I just don't remember, who drafted Bucky Irving and then cut him after one or two games and then saw him blossom by mid season and turn into a league winner. I definitely was not that guy with Chase Brown. I had Chase Brown on a couple of my teams and I waited it out with him. You got to have patience, especially the younger that a player is, these rookies that are coming into the league. You know, how many rookie running backs we're about to have coming into the league that might make a difference,

that might get an opportunity by Halloween. You've got to be patient with them. So when you're drafting, think about that question. How patient am I willing to be with the guy that I'm looking at drafting? And it might be a different level when it comes to somebody who's older. If you're drafting Najee Harris in round eight and round nine and he's in a timeshare somewhere, you might be less patient with him than you should be, certainly, with a younger running back. Somebody who's in their first, second year might get that opportunity that turns them into a fantasy hit, but not in September.

It's funny. You mentioned that with running backs because last year was probably the worst year to preach this tip. Yeah, right. I mean, Bucky Irving was one of the, because I don't think anybody dropped Bucky Irving after he went nine for 62 in week one. Um, the, the guys I think that people were probably too patient with were Blake Corum, Trey Benson, Kamani Vidal, almost everybody at that position, the younger running backs, Jaleel McLaughlin, you know, you don't want to just assign it to the rookies. You know, the guys that were Ty Chandler, you know, the guys that we were saying have a chance to maybe be impact players at

some point during the season, and they never were. And so I think those are the ones where this is going to be the case this year. You're going to get Gentian Hampton probably as potential starters, but you're going to get probably running backs three through eight, which all could be very good players that are going to be in some awful situations You know, so at what point do you cut bait with some of those guys? You know, so like I know for me like I was and I'm gonna be the same thing this year, you know Oh James Connor 29 years old miss him a lot of time the majority of his career Trey Benson is gonna have a big opportunity and I probably held on to him too long

I know Dave you were big on Blake Coram, you know, coming out of the draft and sure there was an opportunity with, with the Rams, you know, that maybe he's going to push Kyron Williams. You know, I don't know how long you held onto him, but you know, though that, that group last year, you know, again, I know for me, like I was a dilemma, a golfing guy, I was a tight Chandler guy. I thought, you know, Aaron Jones is older, uh, Javante Williams, who knows how good it'll be Sean Payton, who knows if he likes him, and they never really materialized at all.

So it feels like you got to be careful with some of those things. My other draft tip was, and I said this last year when we did this show, and it's the same advice if you're able to do it, is take chances on rookie wide receivers because we see them hit at The end of the season in in a lot of ways a lot of times I know for me one guy that I wasn't patient with on Twice at least One once I was once I wasn't was Dua McLaughlin. Excuse me to Jillian McMillan

I drafted McMillan a lot last year because again, you know me I tend to shy away from the older players get a little worried about it. I thought Mike Evans was going to struggle and McMillan I believe scored a touchdown in week one held on to him a little bit too long then dropped him when Evans started to play a little better obviously the way Chris Godwin was playing then when both guys got hurt. I think you recall I was very high on McMillan. I thought he's gonna have an opportunity to step in and play well. He gets hurt and was not patient enough with him at that point because okay, K.Dotten was doing some things, who knows when he was gonna come back, and then it was the scramble to try to get him at the end before the five touchdown finish,

or five game finish where he scored seven touchdowns. But I think you see it in these drafts, NFL and fantasy. You know, I was looking at it like Xavier Worthy was right around pick 100. RADP Lad McConkey was picked 113. You know, so you can get some excellent value for some players that are going to step in and play some significant roles. In the case of Worthy, you would have had to be patient. In case of McConkey, you would have got reordered right away. right away. Ricky Pierce all for example with somebody that was drafted late you know even depending depending I guess when you did your draft but you know you take a chance on these guys that are especially good offenses and hopefully they hit you know Keon Coleman you would have

wasted your pick because he didn't materialize really at all had a couple of good games before he had the wrist injury but especially it's not the day one guys it's the day two and three guys you know you take flyers on these type of players and you hope that they can start to cash in at some point early in the season. You don't have to be as patient, but usually at some point they start to materialize and help you at some point during the season. How long is too long to be patient? And I don't know if you can answer that definitively.

No, you can't. Again, McConkie, you could see flashes right away You know, especially with how quentin johnston was up and down and you know, josh palmer not stepping up Um, I think a good example is like xavier ligette, right? So they make the quarterback switch relatively early in the season. He has some some flash games, right? You're like, okay now you're getting rewarded for holding on to him I think it was like we five or six. Maybe we started to show up I don't think anybody dropped was dropping him, you know across the board at that point. But like, Jalen Polk, for example,

never really turned in anything. You know, we're not talking about the Malik neighbors, Brian Thomas type of guys. You know, those guys were being drafted in, you know, rounds four, five, six, seven, eight. You know what I mean? I don't know about Thomas. I don't think about his dropping Brian Thomas.

They might not have been playing. No one was dropping. No, no, no one dropped him. I just don't remember where his ADP was. It was nothing like neighbors. I'll tell you. No, and by week four, he was starting to play huge. I got his ADP on fantasy pros at 116th, which is insane.

So around 10. Around 10, I'll look at already. I feel like he went a little earlier than that, but that's certainly like the end of the range. I got him 117th on CBS right ahead. One pick ahead of lab, McConkey three picks ahead of Roma do and say we had this conversation like we did lessons

learned with Dan right a few weeks ago and I sort of disagreed with him. Um, but he was more. He was more aggressive. He was like you can't take too many risks on rookie wide receivers and I was like, listen, we just had an amazing rookie wide receiver class. We knew it going in. And, you know, I don't want to overreact to that because

usually it's not like that. Now you could say it's been kind of two years in a row of some success stories like Tank Del, obviously, who yeah, Puka was Jordan Addison paid off. Puka. Yeah, Puka was the man. Jordan Addison paid off. But that's the, and you know, I was agreeing with Dan at this point on this topic. Like, it's not, I think Dan was saying you go a little bit earlier, if I'm not mistaken, right? Yeah. I mean, look, I have no problem taking, taking late round flyers on, on rookie wide receivers. I do think that's a great strategy. So I just want to point out that like, it's not foolproof rookie. Well, the receivers are off. And again, I think it ties in two of the lessons that you

guys both have given, you know, so Dave's preaching patience, you know, it's, it's a matter of how long you're gonna hold on to these guys. And I think it's, you know, this is where you start to look at snap count and route run routes run and things like that. Like where's the involvement and who are they playing behind if they're not necessarily starting right away, you know, so that matters You know So in the case of McMillan like he was getting worked in three receiver sets early Which was kind of my expectation for him and then did he ever get a chance to step up?

Well, it didn't happen until Godwin was hurt So, you know, he needed one of those guys to miss time and in my estimation It was gonna be Evan just because he was a 30 plus year old wide receiver I think in your case Adam you're saying take two quarterbacks, I would take a chance on a rookie wide receiver instead of the second quarter. So obviously, it's very case by case. I do not think Jalen McMillan is the right example to say you should take it, you

should take a rookie wide receiver over backup quarterback, because McMillan, like you said, was dropped. In fact, one of the next points that I'm going to make about roster building involves how I picked up Jalen Millen in like week 13 or whatever it was because he was so completely useless for almost all of the season until the, I don't know, what was it? Five games at the end of the year? No, but I'll disagree with you on that because when week seven happened and both guys got hurt and both went on IR, there was a scramble from many bucks receivers. Yeah, yeah, right. And he still stunk, right? And then he got hurt, but he had two games.

Well, okay. He won't be great until the last five weeks of the year. Yeah. I'm not disagreeing with that point. I'm just saying like- Six games. I'll give him six games. There was a definite, who are we picking up for the Tampa Bay wide receiver? Yeah. But both guys got injured. He was a waste of a draft pick.

He was a waste of a draft pick, Jalen McMillan. But so was the second quarterback sitting on your bench that you're not trading. Not necessarily. I mean, what if it was Baker Mayfield? What if it was Jared Goff, you know? So obviously until we- But if you're drafting Joe Burrow and Baker Mayfield,

who are you playing every week? I think it's more valuable- Yeah, you're kind of opening the door for a headache. Jamie, do you remember the team that I put together? No, wait, I'm talking here. It's more valuable. Yeah, you're kind of opening the door for a headache. Jamie, do you remember the team that I put together? No, I'm talking here. It's more valuable to have a great player just to keep that player on your bench away from other teams rather than rostering Jalen McMillan who's doing absolutely nothing. Okay, but you're bringing up Jalen McMillan.

Let's go to the lad McConkie. So let's say that second quarterback that you're drafting is in that same range and it's McConkie who hits. Yes. Yeah, you're right. Case by hits. Yes. Yeah, right. Case by case. That's great. Yeah, totally. And I was definitely drafting McConkey. I'm just using McMillan because that was the guy that I was, you know, high on to take with a

late run pick. He was going much later than McConkey and and and worthy and O'Doonze and those guys for a reason. But I think the thing thing about this is like, I'm just using how I build my rosters compared to yours. So in the case of your situation, Adam, you may have taken that second quarterback probably not in the same range as McConnagy's probably later, you know, so you're taking a chance on Baker Mayfield, you said he was the 21st quarterback. So it's probably around 12, 13, 14, in that range.

Well, mate, no, honestly, I think I picked up Mayfield as a free agent. Whatever the case may I was just using the ADP is it so if if it's a free agent or last round pick but you're you're drafting two quarterbacks so you're still taking it second guy if you're taking that second quarterback and now especially again five man bench six man bench you're receiving core is not great because of an injury or something like that either having to hold on to that quarterback and hope that the guy you drafted is still good you're dropping that receiver who may become something or you have to now drop that quarterback and hope that the guy you drafted is still good. You're dropping that receiver who may become something, or you have to now drop that quarterback. Now you're putting that player back in the pool. So yeah, clearly it's case by case. Can I use a real life example?

Let me give a real life example. Okay. I'm looking at our FFT league. I drafted Jalen hurts in the fourth third round, uh, ninth pick of the third round. I drafted 9th pick of the third round. I drafted Lad McConkey in round 10, Rashid Shahid in round 11, Tank Bigsby in round 12, Justin Herbert in round 13. So I mean, I think we're in agreement here. I'm not taking my second quarterback over Lad McConkey, over a rookie that I think could be really good. I'm taking him, I mean, the next pick was Jerry Judy, but who could have known

Gabe Davis, Kamani Vidal, Trey Sermin, Adonai Mitchell, that's who I took Justin Herbert over. So I think that I, that's the point for me. I think we're in a complete agreement here that you take high upside rookie wide receivers over a second quarterback. How long did you hold on to Herbert? Probably not that long. But I ended up with Mayfield in this league.

Or, you actually know, I ended up with golf. Jalen Hurts and Jared Goff. This wasn't one of my Mayfield leagues. My argument would be you drafted Justin Herbert only to drop him not that long. Maybe two weeks, three weeks. You had Justin Herbert and you dropped them. I, you could have done that with a running back or a wide receiver as well. And if Justin Herbert had gotten off to a decent start, you wouldn't have

dropped them unless you absolutely needed the roster spot and trading quarterbacks. This is what I was going to ask you about Jamie. Do you remember when I, we did a salary cap draft and I had, this is when RG3 was a rookie, I had RG3 and Matt Ryan for like a total of $4. And I tried all, see they were both having a monster year. I tried all year to try and trade one of them, couldn't get a taker, couldn't get value that I thought was even remotely fair for one of them. It was a headache. I had to make a tough decision every week with who to start a quarterback. And then I had to clog a roster spot with the second QB. So be careful what

you wish for. If you're in a league where you think you can trade quarterbacks, then I get it. You should do this. But if you're in a league with people that are like, well, look, I can just go to the waiver wire and find a court. I can pick up Gino Smith and use them as a spot starter. And that's what people are gonna say to you when you try and offer them Justin Herbert off your bench, you're not gonna get great value. I'm not trying to trade these guys necessarily. I think, look, let's say Justin Herbert had hit.

I'll tell you one player I could have traded was Jalen Hurts, you know? And here's the other thing, we tell people all the time, handcuff your running back or get a running back handcuff, even if it's not your running back, just get a handcuff in case there's an injury. Well, if you only have one quarterback on your roster and your quarterback is Josh Allen or whoever,

and that quarterback gets hurt, you can't just pick up that guy's backup and throw him in and say, okay, I'm getting great quarterback replacement value. You might be screwed. So we spend draft picks on running back handcuffs like Blake Coram, who may never do anything, instead of spending late draft picks on basically quarterback handcuffs. If you just think of it as

a quarterback handcuff, you know, then I think you can justify it a little bit more because what if my starting quarterback gets hurt? I certainly would want to have a good one on my bench. a little bit more because what if my starting quarterback gets hurt? I certainly would want to have a good one on my bench. Now look, I understand our leagues, quarterbacks don't get drafted as frequently as other leagues, so the waiver wire is a little bit better, but not always. I don't want to get Geno Smith. I'd rather take a chance on a guy who could be a lot better than Geno Smith. So if my quarterback does get hurt, I've got somebody that can plug in on the bench. It's not a negative to do that at all.

Again, I again, I just think it's how you draft know your league, how many bench spots you have, like I just think it's tougher when you have only five bench spots, which is what our free leagues are. Right. Okay, yeah, no, for sure. If it's a 10 team league with five bench spots, the waiver wire will be rich with quarterbacks. I'm not doing it. I'm not taking two quarterbacks there.

But I think it's also like, and this is probably the only thing I would completely disagree with you, but just disagree with you, is if you are spending an early round pick on that guy, then I think you're kind of wasting a draft spot taking somebody, unless it's like your last pick. Yeah, right. I mean, it's going to be less emphasis, but I think taking Justin Herbert in round 13 in this draft was fine. I wish things had turned out better for Herbert.

What other quarterbacks were there? You said Baker was on fans. Aaron Rodgers was the next one. I closed the draft results, I think. Go to the transactions. You remember who dropped Herbert for? Sure, I could do that. Let's see.

Oh man. I dropped Herbert for sure. I could do that. Let's see. Oh man. I dropped him for I don't even know it. I just dropped him just for nothing. I dropped him probably to make my roster compliant. I added Oh, Wondell Robinson and a three receiver PPR league. Cool. Well, I got Wondell started for you. He did. He absolutely did. You know, he wasn't so bad.

So look, I mean, we can't sit here and pick apart everybody's transactions and act like they make the right decisions all the time. But the last thing I was gonna say was my draft tip is really try to balance your fab. You know, I went back, I looked at all my transactions, and there was definitely definitely some wasteful spending. $10 on DeMarcus Robinson, then $5 on Tyler Johnson, I use 15% of my

budget on two pretty useless rams receivers. $4 on Jeff Wilson, that was probably when a Chan got hurt. I don't even receivers. $4 on Jeff Wilson. That was probably when HN got hurt. I don't even know. $2 on Wondale was fine. HN never got hurt. HN did get hurt, but then there was a buy and then he came back.

But yeah, it could have been when Moser got hurt. $14 on Cam Akers. Not a bad, he stunk, but he got the role that I was hoping. $6 on Clyde. Like you're gonna have some mistakes. I actually did a decent job in this league saving money. And then late in the year, I spent $14 on Cedric Tillman, which really could have paid off if he didn't get hurt.

And then I spent six dollars on Jaleel McLaughlin, and that helped me big time. So, we gotta really, I hope nobody spent 50% of their fab on Isaiah Likely. I know it happened in a lot of leagues, but what if you did on Jordan Mason would you have been happy about that? Yeah, well that I think is the right time to do it Although did we feel that way did we know it was going to be Jordan me I remember Dave and I had a pretty good Argument on likely versus Mason in week one

Yeah, I just think that you ideally, you gotta make the playoffs, but if you can have a little bit of a bully fab budget in the playoffs and you can really dictate who goes where, you can get the free agents you want, it is a huge advantage. So I'm gonna try to be a little bit more judicious with my fab.

You also gotta know, again, knowing your league, zero dollar bids versus having to have money. Yeah, of course, yeah. And is their first come first serve during the week? Like even spending one dollar on a DST or one dollar on a kicker, you do that, you know, a total of for kickers and DSTs do a total of 10, 11 times throughout the year can make a difference at the end of the season when you're in the playoffs and there's a running back that everybody wants. All right, that's all I got.

Let's take a break. Did we get to everybody's tips? Okay, let's take a break. Come back with some emails and the fantasy cops on Fantasy Football Today. Oh man, I was gonna get the fantasy cops music up but I had Dave's barking dog sound instead. Here we go.

All right, Send, you got any league disputes? Send in your fantasy cops emails, even if it's a little bit rough, we'll try to smooth it out for you. Okay. Fantasy football at CBSI.com is the email address. Put fantasy cops in the subject line. This one comes from Adam Plank and he says, dear Matt, Ozzy, Orlando and Austin. Braves. Oh yeah? Oh, Olsen, Albies, Orlando Bloom. Who's Orlando?

I'm not sure, but Austin Riley. Austin Riley, that's right. Okay, good job, Jamie. I need justification. Recently I was asked to join a very unique dynasty league. Each team consisted of three kickers, two starters and a bench spot. I thought it was a fun-

What'd you say? Quite right now. Yeah, you shouldn't have joined at your arrest. He was just asked to join, he didn't say he did join. I thought it was a fun idea. Okay, now the real email starts. A couple of days later, I was invited to join. He didn't say he did join. I thought it was a fun idea. Okay, now the real email starts. A couple of days later, I was invited to join another dynasty league called

two QBs and that's your team. I thought that would be fun. So I joined. Sure enough, each team was two QBs and that's it. No bench spots. I ended the draft with Josh Allen and Justin Fields. Suddenly each team had a ton of positions added. Three running backs, two wide receivers, two tight ends, and about eight flex spots as

well as IDP. I was confused, but I assumed that we were going to have a supplemental draft. Then the commissioner said on the group chat that we were allowed to add players from waivers. Being a savvy fantasy manager, I added everybody, Barkley, Puka, Bijan. If a player was projected to go in the first three rounds, I had them. It was the dynasty team of all dynasty teams. Turns out, the unspoken rule of the league

was that you can only have players from the same team as your quarterbacks. Obviously, I wasn't super pleased. I read through the rules and the commissioner notes, no mention of this rule. So I asked about it in the group chat. They assured me they were pretty sure someone had mentioned that rule at some point,

that the only players you could pick up had to be on the same team as your quarterbacks. And he had Josh Allen and Justin Fields. In addition, they said if I added a player not on my quarterbacks team again, I'd be removed from the league. At that point, I left voluntarily. I need the fantasy cops opinion.

Am I justified in being peeved and leaving the league? You saved yourself so much hassle. This league is just ripe for shenanigans, unwritten rules, the name of the league, and then suddenly you've got to start IDPs. It sounds like a massive cluster. Good for you. The name of the league. You're right. Two QBs and that's that. Two QBs and that's your team. How is that an IDP league? How are you supposed to know? You can only have players from your QBs team. What a total disaster. Yeah. This is one of the worst leagues I've ever heard. You joined two of the worst leagues I've ever heard of in like a week.

Congratulations, Adam. You should leave them both. All right, let's get to some other emails here. Fantasyfootball.cbsi.com. Don't be surprised if you hear these on the dynasty show with Heath. This is from Matt. I mean, every email we get is dynasty. I was offered CD-LAM for picks 108 and 111. I have to take this, right? Oh, yes. You'd rather have lamb? Yes.

You're giving up 108 and 111 for CD lamb? Yeah, you got to do it. All right. This is, yeah, I agree, Matt. When I responded to your email, I thought you were on the other side of this trade. Definitely take lamb there. Okay. Thoughts on the following trade? Name and city, Dave. I don't your email. I thought you were on the other side of this trade. Definitely take lamb there. Okay, thoughts on the following trade. Name and city, Dave, I don't have one. Doris from Doral, Florida. Okay, Doral from Doris, Florida. Gave up 1.4 and Keenan Allen for Ricky Pearsall, a 2025 second round pick, which is 2.3 and a 2026 second round pick.

All right. So we get, we're getting Pearsall pick 2.3 and a 2026 second round pick. We're giving up 1.4 in Keenan Allen. I think 1.4 is going to end up being a pretty good player. Super flex or one QB? I don't know. Even in one QB. If it's super flex, I don't mind it in one QB? I don't know. Even in one QB. If it's super flex, I don't mind it. In one QB, I don't love it. This is Crosby, by the way, I'm looking at the email now.

I don't think, oh, it is super flex and it's tight end premium. Yeah, then I don't mind it because now you're getting some guys push back into the 2.3 range. I still wouldn't have done it, but it's a little bit better because you assume there'll be two maybe

three quarterbacks that get drafted before 2.3 depending on who that third quarterback emerges to being where they end up. Yeah. And so he's got me like a Pierce all hits you're great. All right, the second trade for Crosby. What would we say her name was Diane? Doris. Doris. You're great. All right, the second trade for Crosby. What was his name? Was it Diane? Diane.

Doris. Doris. All right, it's really Crosby. Crosby Doris, we'll call him. If you're reading the notes, he actually updated me. So here's the updated trade. Michael Penix in a Superflex league, and pick 104 for Saquon Barkley and Mixon.

Or Penix and 304 for just Barkley. Done. Which one? Can you win this year? Yeah, that's the thing, right? Like think about the difference in value between Penix and Barkley in a Superflex Dynasty League. Right.

If you're winning now, you're doing that trade in a hard way. You have to. 304 is the throwaway. It's basically you're doing Penix for Barkley right now. Yeah. All right, you're doing that trade in a hard way. You have to. 304 is the throwaway. It's basically you're doing pennix for Barclay right now. Yeah. All right. Yeah, do that. Third trade.

104 for 106 and something. What round or player equivalent would make you drop down two picks? I mean, that's a lot of what player player I would do it for a second round pick. I would drop down two spots to get a set. Yeah, especially so you're getting you're getting one. I don't think you get it. Would you do it for a third round pick? Probably not.

Unless you have you have you you have that pretty good idea what the first five picks are so you know you're getting sick. So if the same player that you wanted her for and you're getting right capital. Yeah, like we know Jantie will be one Cam more it'll be up there tight end premium you said so Tyler Warren's gonna be up there Top receiver will be up there. I think Sanjeev and Hampton will be up there. I like that top five We say Hampton now, but there. I like that top five. We say Hampton now, but there could be a running back that ends up in a spot, you know, that are you fine. That's fine. Or just as good. And, and it's a placeholder. I agree. All right. This one's from Rich. Uh, got in my first of three dynasty leagues last summer.

And like a dope, I took Jordan love over Lamar Jackson. My other quarterbacks are Brock Purdy, Gardner, Minshew and drew lock. I'm trying to get Jayden Daniels from a team manager that has him and Brock Purdy. What? But you said you have Brock Purdy. He needs a running back. Would you trade either Breeze Hall or chase Brown and Jordan love or Brock Purdy for Jayden Daniels? So, so he's got Love and Purdy, Hall and Brown. Would you trade two, you know, give me a running back quarterback combo for Jayden Daniels? Chase Brown and either quarterback would be great. I think if you had to give Breece Hall and one of those quarterbacks for Jayden Daniels and you really wanted Jayden Daniels, then it's,

it's probably worth doing. Are you in win now mode? Don't know. I mean, he's got Brock Purdy and is playing against Brock Purdy. So who knows who's the other quarterback for D and who Jordan love. I think if I'm win now, I'm probably standing Pat because you can't be running backs. He says are terrible and they are they are reading up the names that would make you laugh. So

that that's why I would probably stand Pat. He does have picks 105 and 112. Yeah, I think like you're not in a bad spot. If it's to quarterback league with with pretty in love. All right. This is from Grant. Hold on. If you trade one of the running backs and one of the quarterbacks get Daniels, then in theory, you should be able to find a running back at 105.

I don't know if it'll be as good as Bruce Hall, but somebody who can at least be a starter. Hampton, Johnson, Judkins, one of those dudes. That's a Grant. Grant says, dear Tommy, Cooper, Angela, and Ainsley. Oh, is this Rugrats? I don't remember a Cooper on there. No, it's definitely not. What is this? Super on there. No, it's definitely not. What is this? Oh, this is Landman.

I'm very sorry. I don't know the names that well yet. I've only seen two episodes. Oh, that's embarrassing after I went and I'm plugging it yesterday. What is your biggest dynasty blunder in fantasy? I'll go first. I have a team that is in Rugrats.

I have a team that's in win now mode. 14 teams, Super Flex, let's see. Now I'm picturing the Rugrats fighting over oil. Okay, he's got a good team, but he needed a tight end, so he drafted Bowers, eighth overall. I then proceeded to trade him, thinking the Raiders' quarterbacks wouldn't be good enough for Dalton Kincaid and Darnell Mooney. Oh gosh. That's his biggest dynasty blunder. Mine is

trading to Jamie. Jamie proposed the trade. I thought I wanted. In fact, I even called Dave and I was like, should I make this trade? And he said, yes. Uh, but in retrospect, just awful. I got Bigsby and Wondell Robinson for Bucky Irving before the season started and that's changed. I told you yes on that. Yeah, not before the season started. No, when was it? A couple weeks into the season. Okay. Early on. Bigsby and Wondell for Bucky Irving. I believe it if I told you once the season started. Yeah, it was Dave. Yes. Bad guy. Right. Right. It was Dave's fault. Thank you. Oh, look at your look at his avatar I have two one I told you recently was uh I had drafted in two of the three

here to the majority of my dynasties I drafted Tyrone Tracy and in our league I had the choice of Tracy versus Vidal and I took by dollar Tracy that was my most recent blunder and the other one which really I couldn't control was I think we were talking about this you asked the question yesterday or the on Monday like What it was when you made your trade and you said sometimes you just trade to trade. Mm-hmm. So This was in the late great Mike Tagliari's fantasy league nicely This was in the late great Mike Taglier's dynasty league. Everybody was trading and I was like one of those teams like on the cusp of competing

for title, not just playoffs, but competing for title. And I needed a receiver and I traded a first round pick and Michael Gallup for T.Y. Hilton. And then two months later, Andrew Leppert tires. Do you know who was used for that first round pick? T. Y. Hilton. And then two months later, Andrew Luck retires. Do you know who was used for that first round pick? I believe it was a future first. And I think it ended up being it was a running back.

Might have been camakers. Okay, not bad. You still may have won that trade. But yeah, that's that's a tough one. Do you remember what football game happened the night Andrew Luck retired? It was a hurricane game. Hurricane gators. Yeah. Yeah. Wasn't a hurricanes gators. Yeah. I was at the game. It was in Orlando. Miami was a disaster for the games. No, it was a close game. It came down to like a pathetic gators kept the hurricanes in the game. It wasn't because of anything. The DJ Dallas, I think I had a long touchdown in that game.

One of the only long plays for him. And then I remember leaving the stadium and someone telling me, I think Chris Towers called me. It was like Andrew Luck retired. Like I can't do a podcast right now. I'm sorry. We were alive on, Heath and I were live on CBS Sports Radio. Oh wow.

Yeah, so we were on national radio breaking the news. That's awesome. That show was 10 to midnight. So that it was late breaking news for sure. Yeah, that was fun. That's cool. All right, well screw the Gators. Okay, we will talk to you on Monday.

There's a question in the chat if you wanna answer it. Oh, this one from John Paul. No, the one above it. Put that one too. Alright, we'll do both. Now you got to answer. John Paul Taylor, would you sell Anthony Richardson, Jaden Reid, and Tyrone Tracy? I'm a middling team and I think I'd rather take shots in this draft.

I've been offered a mid and late first and three mid seconds. For all three of them? If it's a 1 QB league, 100%. I'm ready to jump off the Richardson train. You can't trust the guy with that last name or even close to that last read, read. I say, I want to believe in read Tracy. I bet, I bet two years from now we're not talking about Tyrone Tracy.

We might be a few months from now. Not talking about Tyrone Tracy. It might be a few months from now not talking about Tyrone Tracy. You're getting two first round picks and three second round picks for Richardson, Reed and Tracy. Yeah, I'm taking that deal. Yeah, I think so. Might be a super flex, but I'm still taking that deal. All right.

This one's from Michael Quenzel. Should I accept DJ Moore and 111 for 103 and pick 206. So he, okay, he gives up 103. Are you sure 206 R2 isn't some sort of like robot from Star Wars? If you're getting a robot that can like do chores around your house and send holograms. I would take that. All right. So again, he's going from what he's giving up 103 and 26 are too, which I

think is 2.6 getting 111 and DJ. More people listening have no idea what's happening now. I don't like it. Yeah. I don't like it so much either, but, but you really, you could argue that 103 is really not a great pick this year. You're not getting Genty. And if it's not a Super Flex, you should always tell us, Dynasty, if it's Super Flex.

I think the thing though is, again, he can tell us right now. Oh yeah. Michael, is it Super Flex? What the hell is 26R2? He just commented, so he should be able to. Now he's giving advice to John Paul. He's listening. Michael, you have 15 seconds to answer or you're never allowed to comment again.

We need to 26R2 to take Orly for a walk. All right. Well, this is too busy. This This is suspenseful building a droid. But oh, there we go. Second round. Yes. Okay. So, oh, twenty twenty six. My bad. Okay. It is super flex and two six are two is not two point six. It's the it's the twenty twenty six. Have you ever seen somebody write a future pick that way? Am I missing something that that's how I should have figured that should I figure that out from the future? Yeah. All right. So let's, let's do it again. 103 and a 2026 round two pick for DJ Moore and 111.

If you're contending now, yes. If you're contending now, yes. If you're contending now, you're taking DJ Moore and 111. Yes. I don't think I'm making the deal. But if you're a pick 103, you're probably not contending them. No deal. He's not contending his team is bad. No, I'd rather have 103.

It's nice to interact in real time with people. All right. That's it for today's show. Have a wonderful weekend, everybody. We'll talk to you Monday at some point with free agency updates. If there's breaking news over the weekend, you might hear from us then too.

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