Fantasy Football Today - Breakouts! Plus How to Adjust League Settings for COVID (08/18 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 18, 2020

Breakouts win you leagues! Get ready to hear about some players who could have monster seasons. We start with a few of our favorites (3:05): Ronald Jones, D.J. Moore and Miles Sanders. Then we try to ...help you adjust your league settings to account for COVID (12:10). Should you add more bench spots? Team QB? Adjust your payouts? ... News and notes (19:40) including a Nick Chubb update and a potentially discouraging Ben Roethlisberger report (25:00). Then back to breakouts as Heath gives us another young WR ready to take a big leap (26:55) ... Even more breakouts! Debating Kyler Murray vs. Dak Prescott (31:00) and Tyler Higbee vs. Hayden Hurst (36:15), and discussing when to draft Mark Andrews (40:40) and which Round 5 breakout WRs we like best (44:00). Plus thoughts on Darius Slayton (49:10) and listener breakout suggestions (51:00). Finally, get an awesome food review of the "Seattle Hot Dog" from Dave Richard (54:30)! ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @YardsPerGretch, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. I'll tell you what, that was a spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play. Off to the races.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. It is Tuesday, August 18th. I'm Adam Azer, and I love breakouts. And I've got the wall art to prove it. If you're watching on YouTube, youtube.com slash fantasyfootball today. Welcome to our breakout show.
Starting point is 00:01:36 In case you missed it yesterday, sleepers win you weeks, breakouts win you leagues. TM, Dave Richard, Ben Gretsch, and Heath Covings are here, but I have a disclaimer before you're too hard on Ben. Just know that Heath stole all of the breakouts that Ben wanted to talk about today. So, you know, Heath, you've put Ben in a bad spot. That's not true. I didn't take Jonathan Taylor.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I didn't say A.J. Brown. Like, I didn't say Kyler Murray. There's three of Ben's favorite breakouts. Just find one more. Will Fuller. And I decided that I wasn't going to talk about Brown, Fuller, or Taylor because I keep getting feedback
Starting point is 00:02:18 that that's all we talk about. And particularly with Fuller, with you guys, I just have to fight you and Dave. And especially Brown, me and you go at it. And Jonathan Particularly with Fuller, with you guys, I just have to fight you and Dave. And especially Brown, me and you go at it. And Jonathan Taylor, me and you go at it. So we're just not going to do that today. I picked four brand new breakouts.
Starting point is 00:02:34 It's not my fault. No, it isn't. I just told Azar because I was taking too long to get him to him that he took a bunch of mine. And Dave took one of mine as well. Yeah, well, Ben took Kyler Murray back from Dave, so he's going to use Kyler Murray as one of his breakouts for sure. We'll talk about our favorite guys. We've got some news, not as much as yesterday,
Starting point is 00:02:55 but Damian Harris getting a lot of work with the first team for the Patriots. That's not a surprise. An update on Nick Chubb and an update on Ben Roethlisberger and those types of things. Dave tried the Seattle hot dog, and we are anxiously awaiting the review. The what? Is that what it's called? No one's heard of it.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Is that what I'm thinking about? I didn't know about it until yesterday. The Seattle hot dog? Yeah, it's a thing. There's a Wikipedia page and everything. They actually sell it in Seattle. I know nothing about this, and i'm just going to assume right now that the description itself is disgusting no it's incredible so you toast
Starting point is 00:03:32 the bun spread cream cheese on it um drop in a hot dog and then you have grilled onions jalapenos optional uh green peppers are another optional one you can put some hot sauce on it i think just the cream cheese and grilled onions is enough so that's the base that's what i'm trying to understand the base of this you were telling me is cream cheese hot dog and grilled onion yep oh and the toasted bun is apparently very important as well it is don't knock until you try it well there's cream very popular outside game days here. Yeah, I will not be knocking it, I suppose, because I'm not going to try it. Well, I'm interested to know how Dave like it.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Let's start with our favorite breakouts. Dave, you can go first. Who's your favorite breakout this year? I think I'm going to settle on Ronald Jones. I'm buying into not just what I've learned over the offseason and how he's developed over the offseason, but the reports coming out of Tampa Bay are positive.
Starting point is 00:04:26 He's catching the ball well, clearly working with the first team offense, coming off of handoffs like a dart. He's really going to be an integral part of this Tampa Bay offense. And you know what? If you put in the time and he's a better pass catcher and he's a better pass protector, then the third year running back absolutely earned it. Round five, every draft, Ronald Jones, unless someone like Ben or George Maselli takes him in front of me,
Starting point is 00:04:50 you absolute scoundrels. Stop it. Leave him for me in round five. Thank you. Are you taking him? Sorry, Heath. Are you taking Ronald Jones ahead of David Montgomery, Mark Ingram? Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:04 David Johnson? In non. Yes. David Johnson. In non-PPR, yes. Le'Veon Bell. I haven't gotten there in non-PPR yet. All right. All right. And certainly not in PPR, right?
Starting point is 00:05:16 No, certainly not in PPR. You know, I had an epiphany in the shower because I knew we were going to talk about Ronald Jones and I was thinking about cream cheese and grilled onions, hot dogs. And this is, wait, wait, wait. Is this your shower?
Starting point is 00:05:32 Ronald Jones came into my mind. And I thought like the two major pieces that I can remember and really enjoyed and went back and read multiple times from Ben Gretsch last year. The running back dead zone and the trap back. Doesn't Ronald Jones fit both? Well, we don't know what his role is going to be in the passing game yet. All indications that we currently have.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I mean, the dead zone, he's certainly just smack dab in the middle of. Maybe. No, well, unless just smack dab in the middle of. Maybe. No, well, unless you start drafting him in round three. Well, sure, sure, sure. Oh, you're talking about the dead zone in the draft. Yeah, round four through nine. Okay, so I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Don't draft running backs round four through nine. Don't draft running backs that don't get high value touches or that a high percentage of their touches are not high value touches. It seems like he just is the prototype for both of those things that we don't want to do. Yeah. I, my defense of that, just not to cut you off, Dave, because I, this is the guy that I also would call a breakout and I'm with Dave and he mentioned, I draft him too. Number one, I think his high value touches could go up. He had a pretty solid receiving role last year. And I think the goal line work,, Barbara was the one who stole it from him.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I sent out a tweet the other day. He didn't get a single carry from the one, two or three yard line. Ronald Jones, that is after week four, he got five carries is all inside the 10 during that stretch. And he scored a touchdown on all five. He's a, he's a big back. He's explosive. He's going to be good in the, in the red zone.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And I'm hoping that that leads to more of their goal line work. I don't know that there's much competition for that. Maybe LeSean McCoy is the competition, but McCoy I don't think has the explosiveness right now that Jones does. And then the other thing I would say, he's going to have to touch this. The other thing about the dead zone, and we talked about this a little bit on Twitter, you and me, Heath, is that the guys that tend to come out of that are young players
Starting point is 00:07:23 breaking out for the first time. It's not great, but another, another thing I've noticed is it's guys that are, whose ADPs are rising a lot in the preseason. Arian Foster fits into this as a first time breakout. His ADP was rising. Buzz was building.
Starting point is 00:07:37 He was a dead zone back. That was a monster. Kareem hunt his rookie year. Obviously the injury toencer war where accelerated that but his adp wound up in the in the dead zone and he was a monster and and so there's some similarities to some of the few success stories out of the dead zone that make me not completely shy away from jones and was mark ingram in the dead zone last year and he's like he's a completely different type of back because he's been in the nfl for a time. His touch profile might be very similar to Jones this year.
Starting point is 00:08:07 That might not be a bad comp in terms of the composition of his touches. So you got to be in a good offense and you got to score some touchdowns. He's going to have to score some touchdowns. Yeah, he'll have more than six. All right. So Ronald Jones for Dave.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Heath, who's your favorite breakout? I guess I'll say DJ Moore is my favorite. I think that legitimate shot to be the number one wide receiver in PPR this year. And if you look at his ADP on both Fantasy Pros, half PPR, and on NFC, it is basically 36. So in a 12-team league, you could take two running backs and come back and get
Starting point is 00:08:43 DJ Moore and a Rams wide receiver or Juju Smith Schuster or something like that. Very realistic based on average draft position. Are there anything that concerns you? I guess I'll just throw this out for DJ Moore. You've got a new offense. You've got a new quarterback. You've got a new wide receiver in Robbie Anderson. I don't know. I obviously like him a lot too, but just to play devil's advocate, you've got that going against him.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And he had in his career has not gotten a lot of targets inside the 10. I think the touchdowns are the one thing like, sure. It's everything's changed around him and maybe they are just really terrible evaluators of talent. And one only throw the ball to him 110 times and waste targets on Curtis Samuel. of talent and one only throw the ball to him 110 times and waste targets on curtis samuel um but the touchdowns are the one thing where it's been two years and two years is not enough for me to say he's probably not going to be a very good touchdown guy but three or four years
Starting point is 00:09:38 we start except like we accept that now with certain wide receivers that they might probably won't score more than six or seven in a year i Why don't you just call Julio Jones out by name? No, I wasn't even thinking him. I was actually thinking T.Y. Hilton and Keaton Allen. Julio can score eight sometimes, but no, I think that's the one concern is that his red zone profile doesn't change, which again, it's a new coaching staff, new quarterback. There's all the reasons in the world that could. He's the most talented pass catcher, not named Christian McCaffrey on the team. So I'm optimistic in that regard, but that would be the one concern.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Okay. And Ben, we've got Ronald Jones for Dave. We've got DJ Moore for Heath. I know you like both those guys. Who's the breakout you want to highlight here? Do you want me to highlight one of mine or can I just highlight one of Heath's? You asked for a favorite breakout and it's on his list all right yeah go ahead i mean it'd be miles sanders for me i think it's just a perfect year for him everything's kind of
Starting point is 00:10:32 coming together we've been talking for a couple of months about how the eagles tip their hand early which is something that i want to keep emphasizing i made the comparison to christian mccaffrey second season uh second offseason, where they let Jonathan Stewart walk. And then in May, they brought in C.J. Anderson, and fantasy drafters got really concerned about C.J. Anderson, or at least a little bit. There was some concern that Anderson might take the Jonathan Stewart role, but that was post-draft.
Starting point is 00:11:00 That was a very low-leverage signing. They weren't concerned if Anderson had signed elsewhere, and they had pretty much tipped their hand. They were comfortable going with McCaffrey. And the Anderson's had the same type of offseason. They let't concerned if Anderson had signed elsewhere and they had pretty much tipped their hand. They were comfortable going with, with McCaffrey and Sanders has had the same type of off season. They let John Jordan Howard walk. They've been saying all along, they're going to let him be the guy. There is some concern that Doug Peterson has always liked using committees, but I think when you really dig into Doug Peterson's numbers, he's used running backs, how they're intended to be used. He, he threw a ton to backs when he had Darren Sproles, then he didn't when Sproles was hurt
Starting point is 00:11:25 and all he had was Jay Ajayi or his teams did. And they threw more to backs again last year when they had Sanders and particularly late in the year when it was Sanders and Scott as his backfield. He's using backs how they're meant
Starting point is 00:11:35 to be used, I think, like structurally. And he's saying now that he's going to lean on Sanders as his lead back. I don't see why that's not going to happen. And the difference between even him and McCaffrey is the Eagles still haven't signed anyone and they might bring in someone late,
Starting point is 00:11:48 but I don't know what the holdup is. Why, why anyone would not have Sanders as a first round pick personally? Yeah, I don't really get his ADP on fantasy pros. It's like 20th or something like that. But on NFC, he is miles Sanders is,
Starting point is 00:12:00 you know, firmly in the first round. And quite frankly, it's why I talked about why I didn't really want picks two through six or why I would say I don't want them. I feel more comfortable with later picks because I love getting Miles Sanders. I hope that he can join that elite group and next year be a top five pick. All right. So those are three names for you. Ronald Jones, DJ Moore, Miles Sanders.
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Starting point is 00:13:22 Good conversations in there. One of the things that we need to talk about is COVID, unfortunately. But we're starting to get listeners who weren't listening during the offseason and getting emails and questions about what types of changes we should make to our leagues
Starting point is 00:13:38 based on COVID, whether that's roster spots, payouts, Team QB, whatever. What general tips would you have, Dave, for fantasy managers as we try to navigate what could potentially be a difficult season? And let's be honest, one that might not finish. Let's hope it does.
Starting point is 00:13:57 But we have to be prepared for all the possibilities. So if you're in a complex league, that's a dynasty league or a keeper league, and you're worried about having a normal season, and let's keeper league, and you're worried about having a normal season and let's face it, everybody should be worried about having a normal season. Maybe you put that league on pause and you just do something simple. And I think that's the thing to do. If you're, if you're generally worried about this season going haywire,
Starting point is 00:14:21 what we did in our keeper league is we just put all of our 12 teams on pause and we're doing a guillotine league. We're going to try something different. We're going to try something fun. We might add more people into it because you can have more than 12 teams in a guillotine league because you can play up to 17 weeks. And, you know, there's a team that's getting eliminated every single week. Their players hit the waiver wire and it should be a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:14:44 It's something different. It's a team that's getting eliminated every single week. Their players hit the waiver wire, and it should be a lot of fun. It's something different. It's a chance to experiment. You can also go the simple route and just do a league where you're starting one quarterback, one running back, one wide receiver, one tight end, one or two flex spots, and that's it. And you just keep it simple. And you're playing fantasy. It's a watered-down version. Maybe midseason, you decide, oh, let's add another wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:15:03 You go ahead and do that. And then instead of worrying about making sure you've got every position covered with a backup in case COVID strikes your starter, you just have fewer starters and you have the same size bench and you should be good to go. If you want to keep your league the way it is, let's just say you're in a 12-team PPR redraft every year, same buddies, just add two or three more bench spots or add 20% more to your salary cap draft budget. And the idea behind that is now you've got more opportunities to go ahead and back up those players. If you get Lamar Jackson and you want to make sure that you've got somebody like RG three ready to go in case Lamar Jackson test positive on a Sunday morning,
Starting point is 00:15:47 you can do that. And commissioners should want to do that too, because it's going to happen. Somebody is going to get ruled out on Sunday. We're not going to know why we could assume it's COVID and fantasy managers are going to scramble and they're going to go to their commissioners and they're going to say, please commissioner,
Starting point is 00:16:02 please let me make an ad drop move right before the game start. And if you're a commissioner that gives these extra bench spots, you don't have to worry about that. You don't have to wreck your Sunday afternoon going to make ad drops for other managers in the league. You're giving them the opportunity to go ahead and back up important spots on their roster now. And if they don't do it and then they come begging to you, you can say tough luck. You blew it. You spent those extra three spots on Washington's, you know, fourth, fifth and sixth string running backs because you think that they're going to be good. That's on you. You're going to get a zero for your quarterback that week. So a lot of different options. Be flexible and be thoughtful with your other fantasy managers about the whole process
Starting point is 00:16:43 and just really come up with a way where, yes, there could be a game that gets postponed here and there. Players are going to get ruled out, but we're going to have football. There is a less than 1% positivity rate among NFL players right now. They haven't started traveling yet and they haven't had full contact against other teams yet. They've only been with themselves, but it's a huge positive that the NFL doesn't have a lot of COVID tests right now. I think it's like 15 players are on the reserve COVID list out of 2,600 players. There's going to be football guys. We're going to have fantasy football this year. So let's play to some degree and have fun with it. Yeah, absolutely. And I just think that I've
Starting point is 00:17:21 mentioned this before, but I'm a commissioner of a couple of baseball leagues, and I put very detailed guidelines on the payouts. This is how many teams make the playoffs. Now, baseball was a little trickier because the season was so short, but this is how many teams make the playoffs. Here's the payout structure as normal. But if the season ends before this date, no one gets paid. If the season ends after this date, but before the end of the season and the playoffs, the fantasy playoffs don't get to be played out, these are the payouts. The top four teams or the top three teams get paid, whatever. Is it determined by record? Is it
Starting point is 00:17:54 determined by total points? You also want to outline what would happen if the season gets shut down in the middle of a week. Let's say on Sunday or Sunday. This is unrealistic, but not impossible. Let's say it's on Sunday and there's a big outbreak. No, we're not even playing the Monday night football games, something like that. Well, do you revert back to the scoring at the beginning of the period and just forget about what happened on Thursday and Sunday? You probably should.
Starting point is 00:18:15 But whatever it is, have a very detailed explanation of the payouts. Don't leave anything up to interpretation. Try to think of all the scenarios just so there are no disputes in your league. Heath, Ben, you have anything to add? No, I think that's really well put. The only thing I would add is I personally am opening up
Starting point is 00:18:35 I'm doing fab on Tuesday nights as normal, but first come first serve waivers after that, and I'm not expanding the bench spots. My only concern with expanding the bench spots i just my only concern with expanding the bench spots is then when someone does need to pick somebody up there's not anything on the waiver wire so i have put unlimited or in one league eight ir spots for anyone that has covid so like give people plenty of room to stash the players that get covid but
Starting point is 00:19:02 and then the final thing is most leagues are set up standard where lineups or free agent ads lock at noon on Sunday, 1 p.m. Eastern on Sunday. I changed that to where they lock right before the beginning of that player's game. So if somebody finds out on Monday,
Starting point is 00:19:23 they'll be able to put that person on the COVID list, pick up someone that's playing Monday so they have someone in their lineup. Adam, it's worth mentioning that that is an option on CBS Sports. If you play your league on CBS Sports, you can do that. And CBS Sports will make every single IR spot eligible for a reserve COVID player. So if you do have a player that gets COVID, there might be some sites that don't let you put them on your IR. CBS Sports will. If anybody wants to start a league
Starting point is 00:19:49 on CBS Sports with your buddies, want to come over and play, drop me a line on Twitter at Dave Richard. I'll help you out. Awesome. Thank you, Dave. I don't know if we talked about
Starting point is 00:19:58 the drawbacks of Team QB. Did you mention that? Because I know a lot of people, oh, let's just do Team QB in case my quarterback gets ruled out. Sure. Well, if you do that... That's an a lot of people, oh, let's just do team QB in case my quarterback gets ruled out. Sure. Well, if you do that... That's an easy thing to do. Yeah, but the problem is then, like, Taysom Hill
Starting point is 00:20:10 catches a touchdown from Drew Brees. They're both going to count. Yeah, that's double points. Yeah, so... Yeah, it would... It doesn't change how a league operates. It just changes what the order would be on how you would draft TQBs on draft day.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah, I guess. Saints value goes up a lot. I think you can make the case that Philadelphia's could go up a little bit because Jalen Hurts is probably going to have a role. I said Hurts, everybody. Jalen Hurts. And there's probably some other quarterback situations around the league that could end up benefiting if you do draft TQBs versus individuals. All right, let's get through the news and notes quickly here
Starting point is 00:20:49 so we can get on to the breakouts. Damian Harris is, as I mentioned, getting a lot of first-team work. And we just did a PPR 2QB league with, what, six bench spots, I think? 17 rounds, whatever it was. I don't think Sonny Michel got drafted. If he did, it was like the last round or something like that. Because I was sitting there like, should I take Sonny Michel with my second to last pick
Starting point is 00:21:14 before my kicker? I don't know that he got drafted. Damon Harris went really late to Dave. But I mean, I understand taking Harris. He's a good sleeper. We talked about that yesterday. But if you were just going to take one Patriots running back that wasn't James White, who would it understand taking Harris. He's a good sleeper. We talked about that yesterday. But if you were just going to take one Patriots running back that wasn't James White, who would it be? Harris.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Sorry, Michelle. Michelle might not play until midseason. And there have been reports that he's on the roster a couple. Wow. All right. Nick Chubb was evaluated for a concussion. Was there an update on that? He's in the protocol.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Okay. So I would make the assumption that he has a concussion. Was there an update on that? He's in the protocol. Okay. So I would make the assumption that he has a concussion and that he'll probably miss, you know, anywhere from three to 10 days worth of practice. Does he drop in your rankings at all? Nick Chubb? Not yet. Not yet. We talked about this on a fantasy football today on CBS sports HQ. It's an interesting thought exercise. What, what, where, and what would you value Kareem Hunt without Nick Chubb there? And Heath is the one that really had some, had an eye-opening thing to say about Hunt. Obviously if Nick Chubb were just, you know, traded to another team, Kareem Hunt's the lead back in Cleveland. Where would you take him? Ninth overall. We'd all agree on round one, right?
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yes. Holy cow, yes. I'd take him higher than ninth. I would take him higher than ninth, too. But Heath would take him higher than fifth, right, Heath? I would take him second. Woo! Whoa!
Starting point is 00:22:39 I'd take him probably fourth. I've got him fifth. I've got him fifth. But that thought exercise is going to be parlayed into another one where i'm going to look at all the backup running backs and gee where would i take tony pollard if ezekiel elliott went back to cabo for six months and where would i take alexander madison if dalvin cook decided to not play football for you know he wanted to hold out this year so i i almost wonder if that's how we should maybe re-rank those high-end insurance policy running backs and then it got me to thinking well how
Starting point is 00:23:11 realistic would it be if i took chubb and hunt on the same fantasy team chubb would be around two pick i wouldn't reach him in round one if i'm going to do this and hunt i would have to spend the round five pick on and hope that he makes it to me in round five because there's some sharks that i draft with every day who take kareem hunt in round five it would that be worth it to have both those guys um on in in your lineup you could certainly start both each week of its ppr and and then i've got another thing to mention we had nathan zagura on the show on on tuesday and he he thinks that we're going to see both of those guys run a lot, catch a lot, play a lot. They're going to be a 1-1-A kind of duo.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago. I don't think Kareem Hunt's going to be in this passing downs role, and I don't think Nick Chubb is going to just be in a running downs role. They're just going to continue to just work in tandem where it's going to be Chubb for four or five plays, Hunt for four or five plays, and no rhyme or reason to it because they're both really good running backs so i wonder if that means yes
Starting point is 00:24:09 there will be some weeks where they both get 15 touches but one of them will get two touchdowns and one of them will catch three passes and there will be some other weeks where they both score but i wonder if they're if it's worth trying to strategize getting both i think if it were a 10 team league or an 18 league, I would consider something like that to just lock up the, both of those really good running backs on a team that should run the football a lot. The way that you just described that though,
Starting point is 00:24:35 my, my take would be that Chubb is massively overvalued. If you think that that's going to be the setup, Chubb should not be a second round. Nathan, Nathan said it's going to be somewhere between 65-35 to 60-40 with how the split will be between Chubb and Hunt
Starting point is 00:24:50 this year. That's his interpretation. All right. Look, he went one pick ahead of Josh Jacobs today, and I did a cartwheel, and I fell and I broke the table. You know how many times I've done that?
Starting point is 00:25:06 About 10 years ago, somebody's like, do a cartwheel. And I was like, okay, how hard could this be? And I got like, you know, upside down basically and realized,
Starting point is 00:25:13 oh my God, I have no idea what's about to happen. This is much harder than I thought. And I came like basically crashing down onto a table with a spritzer. Is this like your takes? Do you get halfway through your takes and realize I didn't think this out
Starting point is 00:25:26 very well? Yeah, it's like doing cartwheels. No, I was sitting there like, please let me get Josh Jacobs. Let me get Josh Jacobs. Somebody took Nick Chubb. Wilbertson took Nick Chubb. I was so happy to take Jacobs because he doesn't have a Kareem Hunt breathing down his neck. Okay, moving on. Baltimore is going to work out. Dez Bryant.
Starting point is 00:25:42 We'll see what happens there. The Athletic. Mark Cabali of The Athletic on Ben Roethlisberger. He was talking about some good things of Ben Roethlisberger. He also said this, but it wasn't all perfect for Roethlisberger. This might be nitpicking with a guy who's 10 months removed from a major elbow surgery, but Roethlisberger's delivery looked a little different to me.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I've seen him in practice and games for 17 seasons now, so even the slightest alteration is magnified to me. It appeared to me, especially later in practice on some deep balls, that Roethlisberger was short-arming his passes. I would say that a good bit of his throw was a motion with which he did not follow through completely. It was sort of like a whip action. It reminded me a bit of Philip Rivers' delivery.
Starting point is 00:26:20 It was noticeable to me from a pretty good vantage point in the front row of the lower bowl at Heinz Field. Did this raise any red flags? Yeah. Yeah. That doesn't sound good to me. I don't want Philip Rivers throwing passes. Well, you don't want Philip Rivers' accuracy.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Did he say he was short-arming it, or the passes were falling short? It appeared to me that Roethlisberger was short-arming his passes. Was he completing the passes? I don't know. Was he on it or the passes were falling short. It appeared to me that Roethlisberger was short arming his passes. Was he completing the pass? I don't know. Was he on target with the passes? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:50 The issue for me is not that it looks like rivers. Cause whatever rivers that's his delivery. But if Roethlisberger's got a completely different delivery now trying to rehab from a serious elbow injury, that to me puts him at risk of re-injury. And that's the concern for me. And it should be a big concern. If you're concerned about that,
Starting point is 00:27:08 it should be a concern for Juju. Yeah, concern for Deontay Johnson too. Yeah, obviously. Chargers defensive end Melvin Ingram sitting out practice, looking for a new contract perhaps. Saints offensive guard Andrews Peet broke his thumb.
Starting point is 00:27:23 He's questionable for week one. He missed six games, Andrews Peet, last year. In those six games, Alvin Kamara averaged 4.95 yards per carry. Latavius Murray averaged 4.66 yards per carry. So they didn't miss a beat. Cincinnati cornerback Trey Waynes likely out for the season with a torn pectoral. And another Jaguars defensive player,
Starting point is 00:27:43 defensive end Aaron Lynch, is retiring. It's been a tough offseason for them. I wanted to get Dave's hot dog review, but I'm going to save that because the people want to hear about some breakouts. So Heath, Ben stole Miles Sanders from you, and you said DJ Moore. Give me one.
Starting point is 00:28:01 We have two more, but give me one more for now. One more breakout that you like this year. Calvin Ridley was fantastic after the team traded away Mohamed Sanu. They didn't really do anything to replace Mohamed Sanu. Hayden Hirsch is coming in that Austin Hooper role, but this is an offense that's going to throw 600 plus passes. Dirk Cutter's offenses always do. So there's enough room for Julio Jones to see 160 plus targets and still 125 to 130 for Ridley, who has been remarkably efficient his first two years in the league. I think he's a top 10 wide receiver and that's not his upside. The upside is it's a Chris Godwin, Mike Evans situation like last year. Why do you think he's going so much later than that? He's the 16th wide receiver off the board. He's around four pick. Well, like, I don't know that that's that much later. I think it's partially just a product of quarterbacks and running backs
Starting point is 00:28:51 both going earlier than where we have them. And there's two quarterbacks going in the second round by NFC ADP. So wide receiver 16 versus wide receiver 10 for me is probably separated by three or four fantasy points in season long projections it's just almost nothing i think it's a personal preference type deal and he may be a little bit worse in ppr than non-ppr if it's 120 targets instead of 130 or 135 but i i think there may be a little bit also of people missing last year's semi breakout because he only played 13 games
Starting point is 00:29:25 so we had a little fun earlier this week on the podcast about mentioning who's a candidate to get 90 catches this year and i think calvin could be one of those guys that can get to 90 catches in those six games after muhammad sunu was traded he had how many catches 34 catches in six games so a little more than five per game the pace to get 90 catches over 16 games is 5.6 catches per game do you do you think he could do that i think he can get enough of a target share in that offense to do that i'm just wondering if you guys agree yeah i'm projecting him for 90 i think based on his target numbers he is too this is another guy i completely agree with heath on as a huge breakout. And Adam, to your question,
Starting point is 00:30:06 I think people just get worried about him being the number two receiver in his own offense and don't really recognize that this is a really concentrated offense and really high volume. Like he'd said, it's hard to take him over a clear number ones in their own offenses, but he should be going over many clear number ones. So like over Adam Thielen. Yep.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah. How about Juju? I go Juju. I would go Ridley. I go Ridley. Alright. So we got some more. I gotta tell you about something much more important, alright? Everybody's hungry. Always hungry. We need good
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Starting point is 00:31:49 You're not going to believe the price. And like I said, you can customize it or you can just have one of the boxes that they have on the website. But if you want to see more, you want to mark a visit to the meat counter off your list and receive quality meats delivered to your door right now, go to butcherbox.com slash FFT. Butcherbox.com slash FFT. Ben, you're up another breakout. Yeah, we can start with Kyler. Um, basically we know that his ceiling is very high. He ran for over 500 yards as a rookie. He threw 20 touchdowns, but in the first half, he threw zero touchdowns in five of his eight games. And then his touchdown rate more than doubled in the second half. They ran a little bit more in the second half when Ken and Drake was really productive as a runner.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I still expect that their passes are going to increase substantially overall, particularly because they were fourth in situation neutral pace last year, and they were only 21st in play volume. So I expect that this offense in year two under Cliff Kingsbury will still play fast and we'll get more plays run. Typically, you don't see that big of a disparity between those two stats, how fast the team wants to play and how many plays they run. And it's just because they weren't very efficient and didn't keep the ball for long drives last year.
Starting point is 00:33:00 So I think that can happen. You're going to get more pass attempts from Murray. I think the touchdown rate can rise. Obviously, DeAndre Hopkins is going to help the passing. He has just absolutely ridiculous upside with that rushing. And then I think his floor is higher than people realize. I think he has a really high floor with that rushing ability, even with only 20 touchdowns last year, he was top 10 in both formats. I know it wasn't as high in points per game, but I do think his numbers are going to rise across the board in year two. So he's pretty clearly a top 10 floor guy for me and is really the only quarterback, unless Russell Wilson throws a ton more, unless Deshaun Watson throws a ton more. He's the one that I think has
Starting point is 00:33:36 the ceiling that can challenge Mahomes and Jackson. Okay. So the question is for Kyler Murray, I'll have all of you answer this. How many quarterbacks do you have ahead of Kyler Murray? I know it's at least two, but Ben, how many quarterbacks are ahead of Kyler Murray? Just two? Okay, he's QB three for you. Dave? I've got four ahead of him.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Okay, and they are? Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson. And Heath? I've got five. All those guys plus Deshaun Watson. Okay. You know, ADP is so interesting because there's just a group of three or four that you can rank them however you want.
Starting point is 00:34:11 We've talked about them for months. You know who the top two are. And then Kyler Murray is, I think, QB3 on NFC, but it's really close. And he's QB5 on Fantasy Pros. I spent a lot of time watching the Cardinals this off season, and they seem to kind of shrivel up when they got in the red zone last year, they were not nearly as aggressive.
Starting point is 00:34:32 They didn't scheme up a lot. There's an interesting stat that I've just want to bring up to everybody about Kyler. And this is a stat that I'm almost certain he can improve on Ben. I'm sure you'll agree with me on this. He was tied for 10th in red zone pass attempts last year. He had 75 red zone pass attempts, but he only threw 13 touchdowns. That was tied for 23rd best in the NFL. Derek Carr had more red zone touchdowns than Kyler Murray did last year, but he only had two interceptions.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And that tells me that maybe he was making not necessarily bad decisions but maybe he had to throw the ball away a little bit more um the play calling seemed to be just very generic and bland and this was an area that they needed to get better at i think that's why they really targeted and traded for deandre hopkins it's why i think hopkins will still carry big value as a top five fantasy receiver the other thing that i want people to do with kyler Murray is go look at his schedule for 2020 and look at weeks two through nine and tell me where are the really tough matchups for him in that stretch? Where are the matchups that you just look at and you go, oh gosh, I don't know if I really have to start Kyler Murray that week. So a big chunk of the first half of the season, Kyler might be the one that carries you right into the playoff contention in your league.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I love that stat. I think that's a perfect thing you'd expect to improve in year two. All right. Another quarterback red zone stat, by the way, just slightly off subject, but Dak Prescott, you know, he barely threw in the red zone and like less than usual, fewer times than usual. He was 26th in attempts inside the 10. He was 15th in red zone attempts.
Starting point is 00:36:07 He had fewer attempts inside the 10 yard line. Dak Prescott did then drew breeze and Patrick Mahomes. And both of those guys missed time. So maybe both guys could be more prolific in the red zone. I was going to say like, I almost spoke up when Ben had said that Kyler was the one guy with the ceiling. I think we might be sleeping a little bit on the possibility that Dak could
Starting point is 00:36:28 be even better this year. They've already lost Gerald McCoy. That defense might not be very good at all. They added CD lamb in place of Randall Cobb. They, he might actually improve on last year. My, my concern with him and my counter is he doesn't run as much as i think we think he
Starting point is 00:36:45 does he doesn't run even as much as russell wilson um and or at least you know hasn't gained as many yards on the ground and added as many points he's he he had a lot more rushing touchdowns his first three years than last year he had six each year he had three last year but he's not even like a he wasn't a 300 yard rusher last year. Murray was well over 500. Watson's like a 450 guy. So I actually think, and they, they added so many past attempts last year. His past times could come down too. I think he's got maybe the lowest ceiling of these, of this tier,
Starting point is 00:37:15 but I love his floor. I think he's going to be awesome. Yeah. Okay. Let's go on to a Dave breakout. Dave already gave us Ronald Jones. Who else you got? I've been talking about Tyler Higby for months.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I might as well just do it one last time here. Get everybody all excited about a tight end who I think could be the next George Kittle. I love the way that he's just this physical beast when he's got the ball in his hands. I think he's quick. And last season, at the end of the year, he was a humongous part of the Rams' offense,
Starting point is 00:37:45 and they were successful with him. And he was getting 11 targets per game. That was his average, and he was getting over 20 PPR points per game over those final five. I don't think that's going to happen again. But even if he does half that, he's going to be a good contributor to your fantasy team. The Rams lost Todd Gurley,
Starting point is 00:38:01 so I'm not sure just how committed they're going to be to the run this year. Maybe they will be because they like Akers. And Henderson just keeps getting buzz. That's another guy that I think people need to have on their radar, particularly in PPR leagues. But Brandon Cooks is gone. I know Gerald Everett's back, but Higby stands out as a guy who can be a monster in the red zone, make plays after the catch. He had a great yards per target last year. I think that he could end up being a very good fantasy tight end, the type of guy that you start every single
Starting point is 00:38:30 week and set your watch to getting 11 PPR points per week with. All right. Heath, you have Hayden Hurst as one of your breakouts. Would you rather have Hayden Hurst or Tyler Higby? I'd rather have Hayden Hurst, but they're in the same range for me. Like they're the argument that you make against Hurst is that he hasn't done anything in two years. You can make kind of the same argument against Higby that he didn't do anything his first four and a half years. I do think stepping into that role in the dirt cutter offense, kind of like what I said about Ridley,
Starting point is 00:38:59 125 targets per year have gone to the tight end position and that's across multiple teams. The way Matt Ryan's talking about about him the way that camp's buzzing about him i think hearst has like top four upside at the position but i have him ranked number eight so i i go back and forth on hearst and i i you talk about just how much atlanta is going to throw we just got done talking about calvin ridley is a 90 catch candidate we We know that Julio Jones is like a 110 catch candidate. What's left for Hayden Hurst? What's left for him to get the type of target volume that Austin Hooper needed last year to be really good when he was healthy for the Falcons? He was averaging, Hooper was averaging seven and a half targets per game. Is Hurst going to get there or is he going to be closer to the five and a half targets per game is is hearst going to get there
Starting point is 00:39:45 or is it going to be closer to the five and a half targets per game which is what hooper had in 2018 um i've got him right in the middle i think at six targets per game six and a half but that is awesome at the tight end position like when you say what's there for him i've got julio at 156 targets ridley at 130, Russell Gage at 90, 100 targets going to the running backs, and there's still 100 targets there for Hayden Hurst. Matt does check out. It's such
Starting point is 00:40:14 a high-volume offense. My projections are similar. Well, you've mentioned Calvin Ridley, and you've mentioned Hayden Hurst as breakouts, Heath. And I mention this stat all the time, but no one seems to care, and I'm not sure that they should. But their defense got a lot better
Starting point is 00:40:29 in the second half of the season. I'll try to get the exact numbers. I'm not sure they got better this offseason, though. But did they get worse than what they were? Before they turned it around last year? I'm not sure. To Heath's point, it's a dirt cutter thing. I mean, we've talked about this before.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Like, their D might be better, but I still think this team will throw even if they're a little bit ahead. Yeah, they allowed 31.25 points per game in the first eight games of the year and went one and seven. They allowed 18.63 points per game in the second half of the year
Starting point is 00:41:02 and went six and two. But even with that, Matt Ryan still threw 41 passes per game in those last eight games. I mean, look, I'm just trying to play devil's advocate. Maybe that maybe there's not as much volume there if they have, if their defense legitimately is that good,
Starting point is 00:41:16 but there's no way their defense is giving up 18 points per game. It's that's not happening. There's also the question about how often they'll run the football and could Todd Gurley be so bad that they really have no choice, but to throw as much as, as we're talking about here, or if not more than that. And we,
Starting point is 00:41:33 we, you know, we talked to Ross Tucker a few weeks ago, and this is an offensive line that could make a big leap because they had two rookies starting last year. They got hurt. Another one of their guards got hurt. Like they could be a lot better this year
Starting point is 00:41:45 um all right ben why don't we stick with tight ends you have mark andrews who is currently a different adps here 35th overall on fantasy pros 49th overall on nfc uh he's tight end three in both scenarios but when would you take mark andrews fourth round is usually when i look for him um there's just so many good receivers that I like in the third and even into the fourth, but I, I still have found myself taking Andrews despite that. The big reason I think there's breakout potential here is he doesn't even
Starting point is 00:42:15 run that many routes. Some of that has been speculated as due to his type one diabetes, which needs to be regulated. I think partially it could have been due to Hayden Hurst, who the Ravens did like. They drafted him in the first round, and they only traded him because they got pretty solid return back. They drafted him ahead of Andrews.
Starting point is 00:42:34 They drafted him ahead of Lamar Jackson. We talked about this. Hurst was still running a lot of routes, and particularly out of the slot, which is where Andrews was. Both of those guys had a very high slot rate in terms of percentage of their routes run. And then Nick Boyle is a third tight end they use. The Ravens use their tight ends almost more than anyone,
Starting point is 00:42:50 probably more than anyone. And Boyle had a much lower slot rate. He kind of plays a different position. He's much more in line. And so now that Hurst is gone and they don't probably have somebody like Hurst that they still like a lot, I'm just curious if the upside
Starting point is 00:43:06 scenario, I guess, for Andrews is if that means that he could run a lot more routes finally, and he just gets targeted at such a high rate per route. He's so efficient. If he does start to creep up in routes run and fill that hole that Hurst leaves by just his share growing, he could just be a monster. Okay. Would you take Mark Andrews or Jonathan Taylor? I took Andrews over him today. Thank you for that.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I took Taylor. Several picks later. Would you take Mark Andrews or Odell Beckham? Andrews. Andrews for me too? Yep. Is anybody worried about him saying,
Starting point is 00:43:49 look, I got to opt out at some point because he does have the diabetes? I know he's already said he's in, but if it gets a little scary, then like we've seen in baseball, some coaches. And is there any players, at least a couple of coaches have been like, I got to step aside.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I mean, I think that's a concern. It's not invalid. I think the bigger concern for me is how many more targets does he need just to match the fantasy points that he scored last year? Because he's not going to be as efficient as he was last year. He had a touchdown rate over 10%. So we're going to see probably probably if he had the same number of targets i would say seven touchdowns should be the expectations and so how many how many more
Starting point is 00:44:33 targets does he need to make up for that and how much does marquise brown's target share grow and that's combined with the target share that we've seen from him over the last years is why i'm still taking earths ahead of Andrews in full PPR. Interesting. I just want to comment on the diabetes. I'm not a doctor at all, but I know that type 1 diabetes was not put on their list of opt-out, whatever, opt-out conditions. Right, like the excuses to get the-
Starting point is 00:45:00 Type 2 diabetes, I think, is the- Okay. Again, I am not a doctor, but I do think there's an important differentiation there. Yeah, no, that's a good point, right? You're talking about the list that would have given them the sort of excused absence to get the $350,000. Right. Okay, so our final breakouts are...
Starting point is 00:45:15 We have four wide receivers. I'm going to lump three of them together. They're all going in the same range. For Ben, it's Stefan Diggs and Terry McLaurin, and for Dave, it's DK Metcalf. Heath, how do you feel about Diggs and Terry McLaurin and for Dave it's DK Metcalf Heath how do you feel about Metcalf McLaurin and Diggs I love Terry McLaurin and he would have probably been my fifth option for a breakout so absolutely love that one think he's kind of sneaky as a possible top 12 option the quarterback play won't be as bad it was it was in the middle of
Starting point is 00:45:44 the season and he actually made a connection with Dway bad as it was in the middle of the season. And he actually made a connection with Dwayne Haskins at the end of last year. The last two games were very good. They don't really, like, I know we're excited about Stephen Sims as a sleeper, but that's solely because
Starting point is 00:45:57 Washington's position group is so terrible that he's going to be forced to play a ton of snaps. Honestly, I think if Sims is good, I'm sorry to cut you off, Heath, but I think if Sims is good, I'm sorry to cut you off, Heath, but I think if Sims is good, I think that helps McLaurin because it means teams can't double McLaurin.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Oh, they could still double him. I don't think Sims is a difference maker type football player that's going to probably impact other things very much. I think he's going to be good because he gets volume because they don't have anybody else personally. Right. But I think there's a chance that McCord just has 150 target season and Dwayne Haskins takes the same leap as a pastor that 75% of sophomore quarterbacks seem to take second year quarterbacks seem to take.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And McLaurin just a number one wide receiver this year. I don't really see that. I don't like with, I see that upside with Metcalf. If something happens to Tyler Lockett, I don't really see that upside with the other two that I do with McLaurin. And I just, I love everything you just said. Agree with all of it.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I want to add another team volume stat, similar to Arizona, how I think Murray might have upside if he just adds a lot of pass attempts and volume. And he said 150 targets. That might seem like a lot. Washington was the second team last year since 2006 to run fewer than 900 plays. They ran very, very low volume, especially after they fired Jay Gruden.
Starting point is 00:47:14 They just ran the ball a ton. Miami in 2018 under Adam Gase was the other team that did that. And then in 2019, what we saw with Miami was they added over 100 plays. And they were still um actually i think they went slightly above league average but my point is washington could add a hundred plays this year which is a ton and still be below league average they're so far down and so if they add all that volume mcclernand is the one guy that's going to benefit from that and who is running things in washington it's the guys that ran like 1200 plays last year in Carolina with a terrible
Starting point is 00:47:46 team. Right. So if we talk about pace, Washington was 31st in situation, neutral pace last year, Carolina was fifth. So he's points perfectly right. You got a new coaching staff there.
Starting point is 00:47:55 That was very fast pace with a bad team last year. Washington's going to add a ton of play volume this year. How does Stefan digs breakout? I mean, it's just, they have to treat them like a legitimate number one at all depths of the field. So the argument for me would be that Minnesota's pigeonholed him last the last two years. And one of the big stats would be that averaged up the target it's been shown is typically the receiver that dictates that not the quarterback, but Diggs is fluctuated by eight yards over the last two years, which is something that is just crazy, which means he was getting targets that are i think it's around eight
Starting point is 00:48:28 yards per target of depth in 2018 which is well below the average of about 11 and then in 2019 it jumped to like 15 yards of depth he was just pure deep threat and he got a ton of downfield uh looks he was efficient in both regards he saw a lot of targets in both places, but they like, I think that's evidence that he can win at all levels of the field. They just never treated him like that. The big thing is the bills were trying to get Antonio Brown last off season. And Brown said he wouldn't even report to them.
Starting point is 00:48:56 And then this off season, they traded a first and more. I mean, go look it up. They traded a first, a third, a fourth, and like another pick swap to get digs. They traded legitimate first round. I mean, excuse look it up. They traded a first, a third, a fourth, and like another pick swap to get Diggs.
Starting point is 00:49:07 They traded legitimate first round. I mean, excuse me, number one, like top 10 in the league wide receiver capital to acquire Stefan Diggs. They think he's that good. Joe Biscaglia was on FF, excuse me, HQ the other day and said that the team knows they need to get to Stefan Diggs the ball. He wants the ball.
Starting point is 00:49:23 If they treat him like that, Cole Beasley just had his first hundred target season of his career last year. I think digs is going to eat up a lot of those short area targets. I think he's still going to be used down the field. We know Josh Allen likes to chuck it, him and Josh John Brown, I think we'll both be downfield options,
Starting point is 00:49:38 but it's essentially digs is it's going to be a low volume offense, but digs is treated like a legit number one. He gets targets all over the field, quick screens, downfield targets, and he just has this big target season that we haven't seen from him before. But that's the optimism. I think the talent's there.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I think he is a top 10 receiver in the NFL. Okay, so talent's there. We just need to get targets. We need to get the usage right for Stephon Diggs. And Dave, I'll give you- If he has 1,200 yards and eight touchdowns, that's a breakout year for him. He's never done that in the same year.
Starting point is 00:50:06 That would be a hell of a year. So, Dave, for you, DK Metcalf, just give me the quick overview. DK Metcalf and Darius Slayton later. Slayton I just like as a breakout, especially in non-PPR, as the number one receiver for the Giants. I was impressed with what he did last year.
Starting point is 00:50:24 A lot of it came with Daniel Jones, eight touchdowns in 14 games, 700 yards in 14 games. I think he can take a step forward. I think he's the best. I think he's definitely the best deep ball threat that the giants have, but I also think he can contribute in other ways, maybe not quite to the efficiency of golden Tate and,
Starting point is 00:50:42 and Sterling Shepard, but I think he could be the most explosive of the three. And that's saying something because Golden Tate's been explosive for a while and Sterling Shepard has great hands, but I think he could be the most explosive of the three. I think DK Metcalf is crazy explosive, just a freak of nature. His size speed combo is great. It looks like he's gotten a hair better as a route runner over over last offseason to this
Starting point is 00:51:07 offseason he's going to play a ton defenses are going to have a really tough time with the seattle passing game this year with lockett and metcalf both burning downfield and russ just keeps plays alive it's one of the secrets to his success is his ability to make plays on the run out of the pocket and he has that chemistry building now with Metcalf, just as he had it building this time two years ago with Tyler Lockett. And we've seen Lockett explode. I think both Seattle receivers can finish with 1,000 yards this year. I think Metcalf can improve on what he did as a rookie.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Okay. So, Dave, just for you, since you probably are the highest on Metcalf. Yep. Andrews, Ertz, Metcalf. What do you do? I'm probably going to take Metcalf ahead of both tight ends. Okay. All right, let's go to Twitter.
Starting point is 00:51:55 I asked our listeners, who is your favorite breakout for 2020? So you guys tell me zero to 10 on the breakoutometer, the breakout-o-meter, how much do you think that this is a good call? From Andrew Courtney, David Montgomery. Two. Four. Five. From Kyle Sommer,
Starting point is 00:52:19 Michael Gallup to become the number one in that offense. Four. Three. Six. Four, offense? Four. Three. Six. Four, three, six. Okay. Kenny Galladay jumping to the top tier of wide receiver. Six.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Seven. Six. Devin Singletary. Six. Five. How about Alan Lazard? Three. six, five. Uh, how about Alan Lazard? Three.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Now that's too harsh for 10. It's, it's probably like a four or five for me. And I freaking love was, excuse my, but I love Lazard, but I just don't know how he's going to get enough targets there. I think we have to define a breakout, like the odds of him having a fantasy-relevant season
Starting point is 00:53:07 that is better than any season he's ever had before are the highest on this list. I already defined a breakout for you. Sleepers win you weeks. Breakouts win you leagues. I'd be stunned if Alan Lazard won anybody a fantasy league. There were like four players that won people leagues last year. Yeah, there were only four breakouts.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Yeah, I don't like Adam's slogan. All right, Mike Kosicki. Six, seven. I'll be a little lower, five. Four. Deontay Johnson. I'm feeling it with him, seven. Yeah, seven.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I'm not even, I think I should put a blank because it's just a blank look on my face. Like what has this guy done that has made people think he is good? Okay. He was tied for the team lead targets last year. I don't know if that means anything. Must've been in high school. Cause it wasn't in college or last year.
Starting point is 00:54:03 I disagree. I thought he was, I look, the numbers weren't necessarily great, but I thought he had some talent coming out of college. Last one from Tony Starks. Fernando Tatis.
Starting point is 00:54:13 How ridiculous is baseball? Are you freaking kidding me with this 3-0 stuff? I thought that was mocking you on the Fantasy Baseball podcast for saying he was going to be a bust this year. I most certainly did not say that.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I think in a head-to-head points league, we did not think he should be a second-round pick because he was going to have... And obviously, we're wrong. But I think in a roto league, I'm pretty sure I was the highest on Fernando Tatis, but not high enough, apparently, because he's probably the number two player in fantasy. The 3-0 thing
Starting point is 00:54:46 is ridiculous. It's ridiculous, isn't it? It's ridiculous. People don't know. He hit a grand slam on a 3-0 pitch in a blowout game yesterday. They were blowing the Rangers out. I don't know. I think it was the Rangers. The other team got really
Starting point is 00:55:01 mad about it. His manager got mad because he got the take sign and he ignored it. But like baseball, you're doomed. If you cannot get, he's the most exciting player. The first time I watched him play, I said like, I tweeted it. He is the prince that was promised for baseball. He is everything for baseball. You better jump on board with Fernando Tatis or get out.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And then they had him up there apologizing in a post-game interview because he kind of had to. It's ridiculous. Come on, baseball. Get your act together. Okay. Dave, remember we have a mailbag show coming up, so I have emails in every show, and I never get to read them,
Starting point is 00:55:34 but that's why we're adding the mailbag show that you can hear probably Friday at some point. It'll be out on Friday. All right. Friday. Thank you, Ben. Dave, Seattle hot dog. Now, listen, I consider myself a pizza connoisseur, not a hot dog connoisseur.
Starting point is 00:55:51 So take all this with a grain of salt. And I made it at home. I didn't actually travel to Gretschland and try an authentic Seattle style hot dog, but got a bun, toasted it, got a hot dog, grilled it, got some cream cheese, spread it, got some grilled onions, love grilled onions, soaked it with tons of butter, put it all over the hot dog, put it all together, took a bite, totally unimpressed. Totally unimpressed. There wasn't, I think there needs to be jalapeno as a permanent part of the Seattle hot dog because that would give it that little extra kick because otherwise there's just too many dull tastes. The cream cheese is a dull taste because it's cold and it's a little sour.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Grilled onions weren't seasoned. They were just onions and butter. So there wasn't a lot of flavor there. It tasted like a hot dog with cold spread and grilled onions on a bun that I might've had a little too well. Sounds like the kind of sandwich you might get like from a place where it's just like always cloudy and dreary and there's no bright colors this is the worst food take that's ever been had on this podcast the worst hold on
Starting point is 00:56:57 hold on what did I do wrong in putting together the Seattle hot dog I don't know it looked good when you said it to be maybe you didn't make very good grilled onions that's a pretty big oh no I am a well should they be crispy a little crispy or no no they look pretty good they look I don't know. It looked good when you said it to me. Maybe you didn't make very good grilled onions. That's a pretty big key there for me. Well, should they be crispy? A little crispy? No, they looked pretty good. It did look good. I saw the pictures, too. It looked good, yeah. I'm sorry to hear that. I'm still going to try it. I highly recommend trying it,
Starting point is 00:57:18 and when I do go to Seattle someday, I promise I will have an authentic... I think Monster is the place that is the best Seattle dogs. Ben, you'll tell me where to go. I just get it off the street usually. I mean, this was a college, we're out drinking and they have it at every, you know, card on the sidewalk. So I also had one other thing I wanted to share with everybody. We had a segment that we haven't done in months. It's called Fantasy Regulators, where we regulate your league issues. And we used to play the Regulators music, but we're not going to do that anymore because you just can't do that. It's just a big thing in the podcasting industry now.
Starting point is 00:57:54 You can't play other people's music. We don't want Warren G to sue our asses. Right. We don't want to get regulated. We have our own Regulators music that was made for us. And would you like to hear it? So we can have a little fun with it. Because we're going to bring back the Regulators segment,
Starting point is 00:58:13 but we're going to be playing this instead. Regulators! So we'll be regulated to this. I got to figure out when to throw the uh and all that. Clear dark night. So we'll be regulated to this. Uh. I got to figure out when to throw the uh and all that. Clear dark night. A clear white moon.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Yeah, something like that. We have more music too. Like I imagine if I go up against Heath head to head and I win the matchup or like I win a bet, I'm just going to play
Starting point is 00:58:39 this triumphant music. Yeah. This is what I find fun. I think we can do this one for a debate. Oh, yeah! Dave versus Heath. Go!
Starting point is 00:58:56 I think that should be the new regulator. This is fun. I can start a show like this. This is great. Yeah, that should be the... Look, it doesn't have to sound like regulators. It doesn't have to sound like Regulators. It doesn't have to sound like the song. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:07 But that sounds like the type of music that I would expect to hear on the intro of a buddy cop television show. Yes, this is great. All right. We found our new
Starting point is 00:59:16 Regulators music. Right where the drums kick in. All right. I'm going to end like this. Have a great day, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow with Busts on Fantasy Football today. Make sure you email us, fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. We're out.

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