Fantasy Football Today - Buy Low, Sell High; Panthers-Texans; Fantasy Cops (09/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 22, 2021

We are determined to make a trade on today's show, so let's see if we can pull it off! First, check out this very creative and perhaps genius trade strategy (2:30) suggested by a listener. Then we'll ...talk about the first and second round picks we are actually worried about (6:45). CEH headlines the list but this might be the time to buy low. What do we expect from Ezekiel Elliott (13:40)? And we also cover Jonathan Taylor, Saquon Barkley and the Round 2 WRs. And Adam makes a possibly ridiculous case to value Tom Brady ahead of Barkley ... Buy low (26:15) targets like Justin Herbert and Myles Gaskin. Do Mark Andrews and George Kittle qualify as buy low guys? Sell high (35:40) guys like Rob Gronkowski, although there is some debate on Gronk. And which RBs can come out of the dead zone (42:15)? Chase Edmonds? Ty'Son Williams? ... Previewing Panthers-Texans (47:30), hearing from the Fantasy Cops (53:00) and answering your Apple Podcast questions (55:50) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today. Worried about any first or second round picks, or are they all by Lowe's? We got plenty of questions about Ezekiel Elliott, so we'll give plenty of answers. In fact, guys, I have uncovered the secret behind why Tony Pollard has been better than Ezekiel Elliott. I did an intense film review this morning. The secret behind why Tony Pollard has been better than Ezekiel Elliott. I did an intense film review this morning.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I'm going to just blow your mind with my football smarts. Get ready for that. I want to make a trade on the air today, too. I think, you know, we're in enough leagues together. I want to trade with Schrager. I was going to make him a trade offer last night, but I said, let's do it on the air. So you guys ready to have some fun? You ready to make some trades today? I'm ready to make him a trade offer last night, but I said, let's do it on the air. So you guys ready to have some fun? You ready to make some trades today?
Starting point is 00:02:09 I'm ready to trade every day. Yeah. All right, good. I bring my lunch to work every day. I'm like, who wants this healthy, you know, turkey deli meat? Nothing added. No salt added. No bread.
Starting point is 00:02:26 No nothing for, you know, a slice of pizza or for a cheeseburger. No one's ready to trade with me then, but I'm ready to trade. Listen, quick word of advice. Deli meat, not healthy, no matter what. Look, this is Ben's roster and my roster. I want to trade Tom Brady
Starting point is 00:02:42 for Jalen Hurts. Ben, what else will you give me in addition to Hurts trade Tom Brady for Jalen Hurts. Ben, what else will you give me in addition to Hurts for Tom Brady? Adam, I like Jalen Hurts just as much as Tom Brady. Get the hell out of here. Get this guy off the show. Perfect answer. Sorry about it.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Perfect answer. Who could you add to Brady for Jalen Hurts? Broncos DST. I'm good. I like Hurst just as much. All right. All right. I guess I'm not making that trade.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Anyway, guys, I want to get your thoughts, your trade thoughts. And we've got the fantasy cops coming on in a little bit as well. Somebody's calling out Heath for being a terrible fantasy player, attacking in his dynasty league. Oh, I need to check that league. I think I accidentally won this week. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry for your win. I also
Starting point is 00:03:35 got an email last week. A possibly brilliant trade strategy, and tell me what you think about this. You look at your players on your team, and they're bi-weeks. You look at your players on your team and their bye weeks. You trade those players to fantasy managers who you are playing on those bye weeks. So you never have to face them. And obviously you'd have to get equal trade value back, but you weaken your opponents going forward by playing the bye week game. I've never thought about that. I think it's terrific.
Starting point is 00:04:06 It is terrific. That is absolutely something you could start doing. It sounds like a little bit more work though, because first you've got to go to the schedule in your league to see, okay, who do I play in week 11? And then you've got to hope that the stars aligned with that team in week 11.
Starting point is 00:04:21 What my favorite strategy is to trade with teams who are 0-2 or sometimes 0-3 if they're still paying attention for players that we don't think are going to be good week 3 or week 4 because they know they have to get a win.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Just try to get some future value. That's why I'm kind of going through our leagues and looking for leagues where you guys are 0-2 and I'm going to make you some offers on the air. Won't be hard to find. Michael Thomas is the perfect guy to target.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Like if the Michael Thomas manager is 0-2, that's an easy guy to go after because they got to win now and Michael Thomas isn't going to help them win now. Yeah, I'm a little nervous about Mike Evans this week. I don't think they're using Jalen Ramsey the same way,
Starting point is 00:05:11 but if they do decide to use Jalen Ramsey to shadow Mike Evans, that's the problem with Evans. When he faces Marshawn Lattimore, when he faces tough cornerbacks, he tends to have pretty bad games. Trayvon Diggs in week one. Right, exactly. So I'm a little bit worried about him against the Rams, but then again, I just don't know how the Rams are going to play
Starting point is 00:05:28 it. So that could be somebody that, that you go after. I don't, I don't know if people would share the same feelings that I think the Rams last week did not give the quote unquote star treatment to Michael Pittman until Pittman had a good, like good numbers against them. And then in the second half toward the end of the game, Ramsey was closer to Pittman. I wouldn't say he was directly on him, man to man. Well, Dave, I can tell you in week one, they did not do that with Alan Robinson. No, they did not.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And you know what? Alan Robinson didn't burn them like Pittman did. No. Pittman just got a lot of targets. That's how he put together week one. Well, Heath, how about any names that you could think think of of players that we don't expect to have good weeks that you look for an o and two team and say hey give me this guy one guy i was just looking at was deontay johnson um like he's hurt he might not even play this week he would want to probably make this trade
Starting point is 00:06:20 today because i kind of got the indication they think he's going to play deontay johnson's hurt a lot and then ends up playing or coming back in the game. But Deontay Johnson is someone I think any of the offensive players on teams that are having these quarterback problems right now that are probably going to be resolved for the next week or two. Jalen Waddell, I think, would be a
Starting point is 00:06:38 good one. Rookies, rookie-wide receivers, Javante Williams, I think would be a good one. Why is Javante Williams a great buy low? Because he's still only getting 50% of the carries, and we think that's going to change at some point. Do we? You're talking to someone who obviously was...
Starting point is 00:06:54 I think he'll be over 50%. You've been the Javante Williams guy. What are you talking about? I was about to say, you're talking to someone who obviously was the big Javante Williams guy, but I'm just asking for the sake of the listeners. Why do we think that is going to happen? Maybe I'm wrong about Javante Williams guy, but I'm just asking for the sake of the listeners. Why do we think that is going to happen? Maybe I'm wrong about Javante Williams.
Starting point is 00:07:09 You might be, but I think you can probably get him for cheaper than what someone drafted him for right now. Yeah, well, that's a good point. And also, if you want an edge setting your DFS lineups,
Starting point is 00:07:20 the Fantasy Football Today DFS pod brings you all of the DFS insights that you need to dominate DFS. Frank Stample, Mike McClure, and Sia Najad provide cash All right. Are there any first or second round picks you are genuinely worried about? Because we could sit here and say, oh, buy low on Calvin Ridley and buy low on just on A.J. Brown or whatever. But are there any first or second round picks because clyde edwards zeller was a third round pick technically is what we're calling him is that right you tell me his adp was 27.9 okay so that's a third round pick but yes we should be worried about clyde edwards zeller but he is one that i'm probably like this happens a lot and will happen many more times probably he's probably one that i might buy low on. Because it seems like the perception has fallen from like
Starting point is 00:08:27 pie in number two running back to not even a number three running back. Well, I'm worried about what the chief coaching staff perception is of him. I understand that, but he's still getting sick. He's like seventh right now in percentage of teams rush attempts. But he might be a trap back because Darrell Williams got the goal line carry and he's not super, CEH isn't super involved in the passing game. That's a little inconsistent.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Now look, last year he had the most carries on the team inside the five-yard line. I think a lot of them came in week one. So I don't want to... I think he played 80% of the snaps inside the red zone. Okay, right. So I don't want to just condemn him to not being the goal line guy.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I know it happened on one play that Darrell Williams got in there, but that doesn't mean that'll continue happening. So what would you be willing to give up, or how do you value Clyde Edwards-Ziller going forward? Very, very similarly to how I valued him in draft season. I think I have like running back 21 in the projections right now and i had him running back 20 um coming into the year i i view like there's a part of it is also that some of the other running backs like no one's emerged hardly
Starting point is 00:09:38 at all except for damian harris he might be the only guy who's really passed him all that much. I value him very similarly to James Robinson. I value him very similarly to Chase Edmonds. Running back. Yeah. I got him a little bit higher than that in the trade value chart. He's tied for 17th in non-PPR. He's closer to 19th in full PPR, but still a number two fantasy running back.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And if you want to trade him off your team, I think that's the value you've got to expect back in trade. And if you're trying to trade for him, you should probably aim a little bit lower than that. What would you give up for a good flex player? That's what you should offer for edwards elair and then if you got to add a little bit to it then so be it but he said it running back sucks and so i said that that was me oh well i thought somebody smart said it if you're going to if you're going to try
Starting point is 00:10:38 and acquire clyde edwards elair you're probably going to need a running back to give back to that manager unless they've just they're loaded at running back to give back to that manager unless they've just, they're loaded at running back and they really don't need it. But short of that, you're going to need to give a running back and something else to guys that can be potential starters for CEH. All right,
Starting point is 00:10:56 Ben, Tyson Williams and, and some other garbage on your roster, not the Tyson Williams garbage, but Tyson Williams plus garbage for Clyde and pull that off. I'm going to need Traggers help here. I'm going to do a Twitter poll. I know I'm going to forget about it.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So you got to remind me to check in in 10 minutes. Who would you rather have rest of season in PPR Sterling Shepard or CEH? Make sure you do a C results. No. And let's just see what people say. Sterling Shepard or CEH and PPR. Speaking of C of Sterling Shepard, I think it'd be really good.
Starting point is 00:11:27 We do some Dynasty stuff in the offseason. We don't do enough Dynasty stuff in-season, and it is a trade show, and Dynasty trades are so much fun. What is Sterling Shepard's Dynasty trade value for a contender? If you were a contender in a 14-team league and you figured you were going to have a pick amongst the last four picks, so pick 25 through 28 in
Starting point is 00:11:50 a dynasty league rookie draft, would you give up your second-round pick, so pick 25 through 28 for Sterling Shepard? Absolutely, we'd give up the second. I thought you were going to go to first-round pick. You would definitely give up a second-round pick. Second-round pick for Sterling Shepard.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I'm doing that right now. I am sending you the offer. I'm sending you the offer. Let's do it. I don't know if I need him though, Heath. No, you just said you would definitely do it. We just agreed to a trade. In a vacuum, I would do it, but you need to look at my team.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yeah, come on. What do I need Sterling Shepard for? What do you mean? he's probably been better than every receiver on your team yes but my team has like statistically to this point he probably well i don't know if he's been better than uh deandre hopkins no i've got mclaurin he's probably been better than mclaurin because you have tyler higby in one of your flex spots right now tyler higby is the man. All right, Dave, think about it.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I might do it. I still might do it. I've got to... All right, so just to have it out there so the listeners know, I've got DeAndre Hopkins, Terry McLaurin, Antonio Brown. Those are my three receivers. In my flex spots right now are CeeDee Lamb and Tyler Higby.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Do I really need Sterling Shepard on top of all that? I don't know. The offer is in your box. My receivers on the bench are Mooney, Tyler Boyd, and Paris Campbell. I'm rejecting the deal. If I needed a receiver, I would do it. Besides, I'm one and one like you, Heath. Maybe I'll start tanking like Heath did.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You need to win this week. I know. I'm playing an undefeated Chris Shepard. Sterling Shepard would be your number three receiver this week. He would not be my number three receiver this week. All right, guys. He might be my number four. All right, let's get back. You guys give it.
Starting point is 00:13:34 That's a good trade. No, that... Hey, it might. I feel like you could convince me. I'm telling you that if my receivers were weak, that would have worked in a heartbeat. I would have taken it in a heartbeat. All right, great. So let me talk
Starting point is 00:13:47 about it. Ezekiel Elliott. I told you I uncovered the secret. What position does Zach Martin play? Right guard or left guard? I'll give you a hint. It's deodorant. He's Old Spice? He's the right guard.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Tony Pollard had 13 carries in Week 2. 11 of them went to the right side. Ezekiel Elliott had 16 carries in Week 2. Three of them went to the right side. Why don't you run behind the all-pro right guard? Okay, Tony Pollard did it. Very smart. Ezekiel Elliott did not. That will solve all the problems.
Starting point is 00:14:31 You're welcome. In all seriousness... I don't know what actionable fantasy information that gave us. Well, then let's just get to actionable fantasy information. We can email Kellen Moore and let him know, but I think he's already got a pretty good idea. But it's interesting that they're going to totally set up Pollard
Starting point is 00:14:51 behind the right side and not Zeke. It's not necessarily a Zeke thing that he's running to the left. Listen, listen, listen, Dave, I was just having fun. We don't have to break that down. Let's just break down how we feel about Ezekiel Elliott right now. And, you know, if you were drafting again today, is he a first round pick? Are you worried that Tony Pollard is going to overtake him? Because people are really worried about this, that Pollard is going
Starting point is 00:15:12 to continue to have a big role. And at the expense of Zeke, who had 16 carries last week, everybody. But, you know, what should we be looking for for Zeke right now? Or should we be trying to trade him away or trade for him? What do you think? I wouldn't trade him away because it feels like you're selling low, but I don't have a great deal of confidence that Zeke is going to be worthy of the top six pick that we took him with. If anything, I think that last week was less encouraging than week one week one I at least had the excuse of Tampa Bay run defense is like you should just pass against
Starting point is 00:15:53 them all the time last week they weren't run heavy and they ran more than had more rush attempts than pass attempts and he had to share half of them with Pollard I would offer... Man, it's just like, what running back has been... Maybe you could trade a number two wide receiver and Damian Harris? I don't know why...
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah, why and Damian Harris. I don't know. Could you trade... Would you trade Cooper Cup or Tyler Lockett for Ezekiel Elliott? The trade chart says that that's a good deal for you to get Zeke. I feel like we've been scared of Zeke now for each of two weeks, and I'm just not sure if I'm going to believe that Tony Pollard's going to keep this up. We've never seen this before from the Cowboys,
Starting point is 00:16:46 where Pollard's had that much work and that much success in the same game as Ezekiel Elliott. There were two games last year where Pollard had 10 touches, 10 carries, and Zeke was playing. And the very next week, he was below 10. One time he was below 10 the very next week, and the other time Zeke was out, and Pollard was the starter, and Pollard had a good game. He had two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I'm not ready to say that it's for sure going to happen that Pollard's going to overtake him. He did look better than Zeke, if you ask me. But yes, there are some questionable things going on with Zeke, but that's just the beginning of the worries for Cowboys fantasy. If they're able to run
Starting point is 00:17:23 the ball with both of these guys, and they realize now they've got a run game, that's fewer pass attempts for Cowboys fantasy. If they're able to run the ball with both of these guys and they realize now they've got a run game, that's fewer pass attempts for Dak Prescott. That's their dream right now is to take work off of Prescott's plate so he's not throwing 50 times a game. And I just wonder if you would target that super in London. That's bad. Jerry Jones, they won last week, is bad for them for the rest of the season
Starting point is 00:17:43 because it encouraged them to do that. They scored 20 points against the Chargers. That is not a good offensive plan. All right. Let's go quickly here so we can get to a lot of names. Are you worried about Jonathan Taylor or do you still value him the same way? I value him almost the same way.
Starting point is 00:18:03 He's had so many high-value opportunities that it's tough to ignore. Just the results haven't been there. And I would imagine that they will eventually be there. So he's a perfect buy-low running back right now. Saquon's about ready to break out. So I don't know that you can buy low on him. I expect like I would, I would rather have him than Clyde. I, I think I'd still rather have Gibson. I'm not one. I'd rather have Nixon.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I'm not a hundred percent sure. I'd rather have Barkley than Swift. So I guess he's not a buy low for me. I'd rather have Barkley than Swift. So I guess he's not a buy low for me. I'd rather have Barkley than Swift. Allen Robinson and the Raiders running backs for Saquon Barkley? Absolutely not. I'd rather have Saquon. Schrager just proposed that to me for my Saquon Barkley.
Starting point is 00:18:59 He was going to give me Allen Robinson. You're trying to get Saquon Barkley from the Eagles fan on the podcast. Eagles fans. What I'm saying? So yeah, everybody, I know some people who are really close with the giants and they've got Saquon Barkley on their fantasy teams and they're expecting him to break out in week three. And I think everybody is right. I don't think we're hearing anything. At least I hope we don't hear anything this week about how the giants are still going to try and limit his work but he has progressed through the first couple of games there have been very small flashes of him looking like his old self this is a terrible atlanta
Starting point is 00:19:34 defense i would be really disappointed if saquon does not come through with a heavy workload and maybe three or four big plays and a touchdown this week. Those are the three things I'm looking for. That's a lot of things right there, three or four big plays in one game. If he gets two of those things, then I'll be happy. If he gets one or fewer of those things, I'm going to be concerned. I feel like it's kind of like Najee Harris last week. Oh, he better have a big game against the Raiders or we're going to be concerned. I know he had a receiving touchdown, but he didn't have that big of a game.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I think, I think you gotta be a little concerned just because the offense looks bad and the offensive line stinks. People have this image of the giants in their head from Thursday night where they played really well. They had a very good offensive game, but they always do against Washington and they better keep this up because if they,
Starting point is 00:20:21 if their offense sucks, like we think it's going to, I, I just, I'm, I don't know what, what to expect from Barkley. It's obviously a big wild card. I'm going to tell you guys, last night I created quite a stir on our live stream. I said,
Starting point is 00:20:32 and you're going to kill me for it, I get it, I would not trade Tom Brady straight up for Saquon Barkley. And I stand by that. I wouldn't do it. So you were just saying you wanted to trade Tom Brady to Schrager. Yeah. You're not going to be able to trade Tom Brady if you wouldn't give him up for Barkley, if you've got to aim higher than Barkley. you more or less need an elite quarterback to have an elite team. I don't think you can play the streaming game. I think the elite quarterbacks are just too good now. So I can't leave myself without one really at any cost, unless it's, you know, a top 10 overall player or something like
Starting point is 00:21:14 that. So, you know, I'm trying to trade Tom Brady to get Jalen Hurts and something else. That's one thing. But the comparison I would make is if after week two last year, I said, hey, would you trade Aaron Rodgers for Josh Jacobs or Miles Sanders? Knowing this, knowing us, I'm sure we all would have said, hell yeah, I'd take that running back that I was drafting in the top 15 or whatever. Yeah, we sure would have. Yeah, right. But the highest outcome for Barkley is probably better than Brady, but the lowest is much, much lower. I just don't think that you should have a bad quarterback or a streaming quarterback on your team.
Starting point is 00:21:52 If you're going to trade a quarterback, you've got to make sure you have a top-ten guy and you're not playing the streaming game all year. That's my opinion. When you say a top-ten guy, that does not count Stafford? I think it does because I looked at their schedule today. It's not that they When you say a top 10 guy, that does not count Stafford? You know, I think it does because I looked at their schedule today. It's not that they got a bunch of easy defenses,
Starting point is 00:22:10 but I think they got some high-scoring games. You know, Seattle, Arizona. I think it sets up pretty well. I'd be okay with that. He's probably the low end of that for me. Tannehill's out. What about Cousins? Tannehill's out for me. Cousins, no. I know Cousins is going to be good, but I don't
Starting point is 00:22:24 know that he's going to be fantasy championship good. If Cousins and Barkleyhill's out for me. Cousins, no. I mean, I know Cousins is going to be good, but I don't know that he's going to be fantasy championship good. So if Cousins and Barkley, sure, I'd do that. But I think you've got to have, I think they're probably about 10 quarterbacks in my opinion. The problem is that I think even the most diehard Tom Brady fan would give up Brady for Saquon in his fantasy league, just to have the chance of having that stud running back on his roster. It's different in two quarterback league.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I actually think that you're not far off in that type of format, but in a one quarterback league, I think I'd be willing to give up literally any quarterback that I had to get Saquon Barkley and then play the streaming game and hope that I find success with it which has been proven to be if you're good at streaming quarterbacks a workable strategy over the balance of the fantasy season plus you could always trade Brady if you just fell into Brady for Barkley now you've got Barkley and you're streaming quarterback, you probably can make another trade to get a decent quarterback to recoup that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:29 If not this week, then within the next two or three weeks. So I think it's a bad strategy to commit to a great quarterback if it's going to cost you a great running back. Is Saquon Barkley a great running back? Yeah. That's what I hope we answer on Sunday. Well, if we answer it on Sunday, I'm not sure that we're, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:47 because he does it against Atlanta, I'm not sure that he's going to do it every game, right? I mean, he's got one of the best matchups in football. I'm sorry, Adam. I would be encouraged by a heavy workload in the game. I would be encouraged if he gets a bunch of goal line opportunities. Hopefully he scores on one of them. He had that nice big run against Washington. What if he has one
Starting point is 00:24:06 or two nice runs? What did I say? Two, three, or four nice runs against Atlanta? Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. He gets two of those things. I'm ready to say, okay, Saquon's good to go. I hope so. Alright, so I've taken too much time here. Tell me, guys, just some players
Starting point is 00:24:22 that you're looking to buy low. Well, actually, before we do that, Stefan Diggs, Calvin Ridley, A.J. Tell me, guys, just some players that you're looking to buy low. Well, actually, before we do that, Stefan Diggs, Calvin Ridley, A.J. Brown, Justin Jefferson, D.K. Metcalf, who's off to a bit of a slow start. Are they all
Starting point is 00:24:33 what we thought they were? Are they all still second-round caliber players? Second- to third-round caliber players, sure. Because I think Lockett and Kup, if we were redrafting today, I think seeing what we've seen
Starting point is 00:24:45 from them for the first two games, they'd make the top 35, top 30. I think we'd take Lockett ahead of DK at this point. I think we'd take Kup ahead of DK. Yeah, I mean, Lockett's got two touchdown catches of 60 plus yards.
Starting point is 00:25:02 No, I don't think it's sustainable, but I think also have more fantasy points since the start of 2019 than all the four wide receivers yeah like he's he's been all that's the thing i think it's very important with both cup and lockett just because they were under drafted and i think we were saying they were under drafted don't trade them for low end number one wide receiver value they are low end number one wide receivers they've been low end wide receivers for most of the past three seasons if you're going to trade cooper cup or tyler lockett and sell high on them you need to get top five wide receiver value or you're not high. They're both in the top 12 among receivers,
Starting point is 00:25:46 non-PPR or full PPR on the trade chart. All right, we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, Dave and Jamie are going to give you a bunch of names that you can, Dave and Heath are going to give you a bunch of names. Let's bring Jamie on. Wow. Sorry. Well, he doesn't even know who's on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:26:01 All right, that you could. First, you're saying you're going to, first you're going to first you're trying to get Jalen Hurts for Tom Brady. Now you're saying that you'll trade Saquon Barkley
Starting point is 00:26:10 for Tom Brady straight up. And now you're calling Heath Jamie. No, I called Heath Dave. I called you, Jamie. Just to clarify. We'll be right back. I see football today.
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Starting point is 00:26:46 It's easy. It's the law. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. Welcome back, everybody. Buy high, sell low with Chris and Jacob Gibbs here today. All right, guys. Heath, why don't you kick us off? Who are you buying low on?
Starting point is 00:27:04 I mentioned Clyde if the perception is low enough. I think as desperate as I am for running backs in full PPR, I might try to buy low on guys like Mike Davis, Miles Gaskin, that are getting a lot of targets at least. Those running backs that are struggling but at least being used in the passing game, I feel a little bit better in full PPR about what their possibility might be. I would definitely send a buy low offer for Stephon Diggs, A.J. Brown, any of those guys.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Josh Allen, I assume everybody's cool with him. Is this just off to a slow start? Yes, it's just, again, I'd say the opposite of what I said about Lockett and Kupp about Josh Allen. We should not have expected him to be as good as he was last year. Don't pay for him like he's going to be as good as he was last year. That was not a fair expectation. And we said that he shouldn't be valued so much differently
Starting point is 00:27:58 than the other non-Mahomes top five guys, the Kylers and Jacksons. Would you trade Kyler for Josh Allen? No. No. No. I think I... I never made the decision, but I'm pretty sure I would have taken Kyler over Allen. Would you trade Tom Brady for Josh Allen?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Yes. I've got them tied on the trade chart. Allen's top six. He's basically sixth. Dave, who are your buy lows? Justin Herbert leads the way for me. Herbert, and this is, I don't know if you follow me on Twitter or not,
Starting point is 00:28:31 at Dave Richard, but I tease that I had a mind-blowing Herbert stat on the FFT show on Tuesday. This is what it was. The Chargers have had six drops and six penalties that have called back big plays on offense. If all six of those drops never happen and if all those penalties never happen and we could do this for every quarterback but we're just doing it for herbert right now he would have four more touchdowns and 175 more yards
Starting point is 00:28:55 and the four touchdowns that he had called back those drives ended with non-touchdowns field goals or turnover so it's not like he missed. It's not like Mike Williams dropped a touchdown against Washington and then Herbert scored a touchdown anyway. Right. It didn't happen. So he really has been playing well. The protection has been great.
Starting point is 00:29:16 He's just been let down a little bit. And the most egregious drops have been by Mike Williams and Keenan Allen. It's the craziest thing. So hopefully those guys get their act together. Allen especially. You never expect to see drops from him. And I think Herbert is the perfect guy. If you're 0-2 and you've got Brady
Starting point is 00:29:33 and you can turn Brady into Saquon Barkley or something more realistic like another player to help your team and you can buy low on Herbert, you're making two trades here. Or maybe it's one trade. Maybe it's Herbert and something else for Brady. Definitely do it. Definitely do it.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Great numbers coming for Justin Herbert. I do not expect him to be plagued by drops in offensive penalties all year long. Schrager, that's mean what you did to Heath there. That is mean. It's definitely my fault. Yeah, my fault there. Thank you for covering for me. I'm surprised you remembered Ben's name.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I didn't. That's why I called him Schrager. Any other bylaws, David, you want to get to? And I have a follow-up question. I mean, at quarterback or at any position? No, just your favorites. I agree with Heath on Gaskin. I think that he's somebody that the Dolphins have to give the football to just a little bit more, and they've done a good job giving it to him in the
Starting point is 00:30:27 passing game. It wouldn't surprise me if along the line here we saw a seven-catch game from Myles Gaskin along the way. I think he's actually somebody that's a great by-low. I think Javante Williams is a good by-low. I don't know if I feel good about saying James Robinson is a good by-low because he's just still not getting the work, but he's looked okay. Like Jacksonville is eventually going to realize that they've got to lean on him even more than they have. This isn't a terrible matchup for him this week against Arizona.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Robert Woods is a tremendous buy low. There are definitely going to be fantasy managers that are frustrated with him. Alan Robinson's another one. Robinson should have had a couple of touchdowns last week against Cincinnati. He dropped at least one. There's another one that looks a little sketchy that maybe he dropped, maybe he didn't drop. But again,
Starting point is 00:31:14 another receiver that I don't expect drops from. I wonder if you could turn Cortland Sutton and a bench player into Allen Robinson on your squad. And Kittle and Mark Andrews. Oh, yes. That was my follow-up question.
Starting point is 00:31:28 This is your best, if you believe in them, this is your best chance, if you didn't draft a top five tight end, this is your best chance to get one, right? Yep, absolutely. Especially if you lucked into Gronk. Because I think you can make the case that Gronk has more value than Mark Andrews right now
Starting point is 00:31:43 and has close to, if not the exact same value, as George Kittle. What does Mark Andrews' target share? I don't know if anybody has that handy. I could do the math for you if you want. Because it's probably a little bit... 17%? Is that a guess or is that official? I believe that's a guess.
Starting point is 00:32:01 He has 10 targets on 56 pass attempts. Sounds a lot like 17%. So what's... Divided by 56, it's 17.8%. Yeah, you undersold him there. That's not good for him, right? I mean, he's usually higher than that. No, what's happened through two weeks,
Starting point is 00:32:19 and that's why I said I'm basically giving him one more week. If it continues for a third week, then I'm a little bit actually real panicking. Sammy Watkins, I thought it was a joke that Sammy Watkins would take targets from Mark Andrews. Sammy Watkins has not only taken targets from Mark Andrews, he's been very good with those targets. Yeah, 15 for him.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah, not great. Second on the team. And I bet you're surprised by the amount of targets that marquise brown's had eight per game um so he's at around 30 percent 16 out of so so let me ask you this so just looking at a stats page they've thrown 56 passes but they count 54 targets so do they not count throwaways or something like that well a throwaway is not a target right so is that what it is so should we be using 54 instead of 56 but i've seen people use both so marquise brown's got a 28.6 percent target share i think i had him projected for 25 percent um so it's not a huge increase over what he's had but enough
Starting point is 00:33:22 okay i love marquise brown he's he's a sell high guy for sure. Maybe you think you want to wait a week though. Detroit. You could, but if you're getting a good offer for him now, if you, if you can package him to get Robert Woods, I think you got to do it.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yeah. Look at this schedule for the Rams. Now look, it's a little bit early to know who's got, we knew going into the year, go, go for it. Now, look, it's a little bit early to know who's going to go for it. Yeah, I know. It's a little bit early to know. Maybe these teams are better against wide receivers, but I foresee a lot of passing, especially
Starting point is 00:33:53 if Darrell Henderson's out. Tampa Bay, Arizona, at Seattle. Those are the next three games. Could be a lot of points at the Giants. Their secondary is struggling. Maybe it'll be better by then. Detroit, at Houston, Tennessee. Holy cow. I mean, we've got a great stretch of games coming up for the Rams passing game,
Starting point is 00:34:11 at least on paper. Look at the ceiling in here, Heath, in the podcast studio, the FFT studio. Just a lot of stuff on the ceiling. This was one of the selling points for the Rams, was that their schedule was a for the Rams was that the, uh, that their schedule was a little challenging to begin the year. And then once you got to week four or five to the ceiling. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:34 So we'll do some sell highs now and let's get a, take a look at that Twitter poll. Schrager Sterling Shepard versus CEH in PPR. Let's see what the results are. 788 votes so far. 53%. Clyde Edwards-Ziller, 47%. Sterling Shepard. Well, maybe people say that,
Starting point is 00:35:00 but I have offered Sterling Shepard to literally every person in my dynasty league for a second round rookie pick and no takers well people don't actually want to give up anything for sterling but he's got more value in a redraft league than a dynasty league i would say he's a free agent i believe right coming up yeah i mean it's little hard time finding a situation as good as the Giants' offense with Daniel Jones' quarterback. That's why he's a sell-high to me.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I just don't... Going back to last year, it's four straight games with nine or more targets. And he's been awesome. But I don't know. Who's really buying this? Nobody. I don't know, but I think people are buying it.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Nobody's buying it. Nobody in your it i think people are buying it nobody's buying it nobody in your analysts uh dynasty league is buying it but this is not like the reason the reason i have to tank so hard in this league is because it's like half the teams are awful okay somebody yeah i just made you a trade offer for me i'm sure it's fantastic dave i can't oh yeah you won't like it but this is an example of me trying to take advantage of your tough situation all right guys we have five minutes for sell highs heath who are we selling high on rob gronkowski yeah uh well he has a 30 touchdown rate he has i believe the greatest touchdown rate of all time and it's about a third of what his touchdown rate this season is so i do not think that rob gronkowski
Starting point is 00:36:33 is going to keep this up um if daryl henderson is able to play this week if he gets in a full practice and they say he's a go i'd be probably trying to sell Daryl Henderson. I guess how many broken tackles Daryl Henderson has this year? Zero. Zero. Yeah. And it's a good situation, but I just don't...
Starting point is 00:36:55 Tyson Williams, I would be willing to sell him. Let's put some context on it, though. What would you sell Tyson Williams for? Would you give him up for Clyde Edwards-Elair? I think packaging him for one of those running backs who were drafted in the first three or four rounds but haven't been very good.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I would rather have Myles Gaskin and Mike Davis in PPR than Tyson Williams. You would obviously then package him to get Myles Sanders as an example. Yes. Okay. I want to push back on that a little bit because I've been kind of encouraged by Tyson Williams,
Starting point is 00:37:28 and he, to me, is clearly the best running back on the Ravens, and he's not a total dud in PPR either. What do you have, three catches and two catches in two games? Yeah. I hope he doesn't make so many mistakes that they have to sit him, but I think he's their best running back. I think he's going to be their lead running back, and I think he's going to score some touchdowns along the way.
Starting point is 00:37:47 He almost had a touchdown. He fumbled it at the goal line. Right, but that's an example of the mistakes that he's making. Right. I'm not so sure I'm willing to give him up because the running backs you mentioned, they have so many question marks. You know, Myles Gaskin, and I wouldn't give him up.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I don't even think I'd trade Tyson Williams for James Robinson, for example. You're more in the period chart. If I had Tyson Williams, you would be someone that I would be trying to trade him to. I don't necessarily think you're wrong. The fact that he fumbled on the
Starting point is 00:38:18 goal line does not make me think he's more likely to get more carries on the goal line. He didn't fumble. It wasn't a goal line carry. He fumbled on the goal line. Well, he didn't fumble. It wasn't a goal line carry. But he fumbled on the goal line. He fumbled. Yeah, but then that was on their first drive of the game or their second drive after the pick six, and he still led the team in carries. And it's not like they went away from him. I just, I think
Starting point is 00:38:36 Latavius Murray might just be kind of a scrub. Devontae Freeman's not going to take him off the field. So if they want some explosiveness in their running game. I think scrubs are going to take him off the field. I don't think they're,'re like he got 13 carries i think that's probably about what you should expect i guess take him off the field anymore than i than he's been already like he's going to be their lead running back that's how what i think if he had made that run and he was he didn't fumble but he was down at the two i would bet you a candy bar and a cheeseburger that latavius murray would be in
Starting point is 00:39:07 until the drive was over for baltimore and i would add a six pack of beer well i don't have i don't eat candy bars or drink beer but i will take the cheeseburger i would trade tyson money for cheeseburgers i think we should touch upon gronk real quick like what if gronk is your only tight end am i really still selling high on him or like i i just lucked into a tight end with either with a some people might have taken him in the middle rounds definitely some people picked him up off the waiver wire like gronk is helping me win games right now if i'm selling high on him what what's my plan at tight end? Well, the first choice is try to hope the Mark Andrews manager is really panicking and try for that.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Straight up. Second choice in full PPR is to trade him for Noah Fant, which I think you can do almost universally. Yeah, and you get something with it. You might even get something with it, but I wouldn't require anything with it. I think most people, if you ask right now, who'd rather have Gronk or Fant, I think Gronk runs away with it but i wouldn't require anything with it i i think you could i think most people if you ask right now who'd rather have gronk or fant i think gronk runs away with it i agree i think that's probably not the case in two weeks right the whole idea is you're you're trading a guy who's doing something that's unsustainable for a younger more athletic tight
Starting point is 00:40:19 end who could who may start be maybe on the cusp of breaking out based on how the first two weeks of the year have gone. Give me more sell highs real quick, guys. Dave? If you've got Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady in your 0-2, you can downsize from them. We've talked about that a lot. It's easy just to trade them for a lesser quarterback and another
Starting point is 00:40:40 starter for your team. You're in win-now mode like Keith talked about earlier. I think that makes a lot of sense. Is there a running back to sell high on beyond Daryl Henderson if he's healthy? Najee would be somebody I would consider because he's looked so bad as a runner. I don't know if it's his fault.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I think the offensive line and the scheme is definitely playing into it. I think anytime he has a good game through the air you should try and take advantage i'm worried about this stealer's offense for real now um i think that he could be in trouble melvin gordon's another one melvin gordon who had to i guess he had an okay game in week two after having the long touchdown run in week one there are definitely our managers in your league that are really starving at running back. And Melvin Gordon is somebody you can feed him. Hopefully, you drafted Gordon as your third or
Starting point is 00:41:29 fourth running back. You might be able to turn him into a number two wide receiver. You might be able to turn him into Marquise Brown if you wanted to. Brown's a sell-high guy as well, but I do think he's got some value the rest of the season, whereas I think Gordon could go down a little bit. And speaking of running backs, if you're in a league with desperate managers would they overpay for james white in a ppr league six catches in each of his first two games do you think you might be able to turn him into a player that's better than what james white's been over the last two and a half years yeah it's a good call i, he gives you a nice floor, but if you could trade him for a player with upside,
Starting point is 00:42:08 it might be worth doing. And, you know, I don't know if things are going to be different for James White, but let's take a look at JD McKissick and Naeem Hines. They both have had a game with zero catches. Did Hines have one catch last week? I think he had one. He had one or zero.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Right. So they both have had a game. I know John and Taylor had one. Yeah, I think Hines had one touch and no catches, but whatever it is, they both have had one game, very involved in the passing game. He had a 17-yard catch in week two. And they both have had one game with zero
Starting point is 00:42:39 or one catch, so maybe James White's the most consistent of that group, but five, six catches a week, it's probably not going to happen. All right, listen, we got a game to preview here, but this is an important question that I need to ask. Which running back can come out of the dead zone? If you were going to give me two or three of these guys from the running back dead zone that would emerge as reliable starters, who would they be? And I'm looking at James Robinson, Josh Jacobs, DeAndre Swift, Miles Sanders, Miles Gaskin, Mike Davis, Kareem Hunt, Daryl Henderson,
Starting point is 00:43:13 a Denver running back, Tyson Williams, a 49ers running back, a Buffalo running back, a Patriots running back, a Tampa Bay running back, Michael Carter. It's a lot of names. Is Miles Sanders in the dead zone? Yeah, yeah, I did say's a lot of names. Is Miles Sanders in the dead zone? Yeah, yeah, I did say him. Clyde Edwards-Hilaire in the dead zone. No, I didn't say him. Damian Harris. Yes, Patriots running backs.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Are they your favorite? I mean, DeAndre Swift, is he number one in the dead zone? Chase Edmonds has been good in PPR. It's got to be. Swift? Swift, yeah. Swift just shouldn't have been in thePR. It's got to be. Swift. Swift. Yeah. Swift just shouldn't have been in the dead zone in the first place.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I agree. He shouldn't be in there, but he was. Yeah. Well, he did just have a pretty crappy game, but even still was 11 or 12 fantasy points in PPR. For me,
Starting point is 00:44:03 for me, the answer would be the guys who are getting targets. So do you include Mike Davis? Robinson's getting targets. Would you include him? I'm warming to Robinson. It feels like Urban Meyer learned the
Starting point is 00:44:18 Carlos Hyde lesson quicker than I thought he might. And so I think there's a chance we see a few more touches for Robinson moving forward. Okay. How do you feel about Chase Edmonds who's had a nice dose of targets?
Starting point is 00:44:33 I like Chase Edmonds in that same range. I feel like everybody else likes Chase Edmonds more than I do. I hope that's not totally true. He's currently, Chase Edm Evans is currently
Starting point is 00:44:45 RB24 in non-PPR and RB18 in full PPR. And that feels right to me. Just because the touchdowns could be such an issue. But maybe he's in like a Javante Williams situation where he's just going to
Starting point is 00:44:59 overtake the veteran. Well, and I would, you could, I don't think that's the case um but you you could make the argument that both chase edmonds isn't actually this good that he's been so far and chase edmonds is better than this the argument that he's better than this would be man he's rb 18 and 24 and he hasn't scored a touchdown yet exactly the argument for would be man he's rb 18 and 24 and he's averaging a yard more per carry than he ever be man he's RB 18 and 24
Starting point is 00:45:25 and he's averaging a yard more per carry than he ever has and he's cut every single one of his targets so far so I think he probably just kind of is what he's been right what about Elijah Mitchell he's got an opportunity in front of him perhaps with hasty on IR and don't know about
Starting point is 00:45:43 sermon he went back in the game, so they seemed optimistic about him. They said it was a stinger, probably. Let's assume he plays this week. He's got Green Bay, Seattle, and Arizona in his next three games. There might actually be some tough run defenses, but a chance for Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:45:58 What an opportunity. Yeah, I don't think the Packers' run defense is very good. I don't know. I think they can is very good. I don't know. I think they can be okay. It's not the Eagles. I thought they looked pretty gross. The Eagles, for sure. You were right about that one.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Yeah, I don't know. But I'm saying at least for the next three weeks before the bye, you might have something with Mitchell. And maybe Sermon ends up coming out of the dead zone. How about this? How about this? There could be some disenchanted fantasy managers that blew their fab budget
Starting point is 00:46:29 or their top waiver claim on Mitchell only to get what they got in week two. Maybe they're impatient and they are willing to move on from him knowing that the schedule coming up plus the fact that they're running out of running backs in San Francisco that they're going to trust to take 30%, 40% of the workload away from Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:46:48 He's in a pretty good spot. If this were Mostert and everyone else on the 49ers were hurt, what would we be saying? We would be saying that Raheem Mostert is a must-start, can't-miss, 20-touch fantasy running back. I have a trade offer. All right, let's do this. I have been offered Devante Booker,
Starting point is 00:47:07 Samajay P. Ryan, and a round two 2022 pick for Sterling Shepard, Mark Ingram, and a round four 2022 pick. I mean, look, if you're tanking, then you take it. So does that mean you don't like my offer?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Dave offered me a third and a sixth. No, I only offered you a third. I'm Sterling Shepard and a sixth. You're out, Dave. I'll just take it back. Yeah, because there's a chance that either Booker or P. Ryan could turn into someone that is getting 15 touches a game this season, and then all of a sudden I'm getting a third round pick.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yeah. Yeah. Right. Sure. Saying you're still getting the second round pick that you want. You're losing the fourth. You could try countering taking the fourth out of it. And then if they say no to that,
Starting point is 00:48:00 then okay. Keep the four. You got a deal. Hey Dave, you ready to do Thursday night football? I am. Alright, Carolina Houston Thursday night. This is an easy game here.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Start McCaffrey. What's your interest level in Sam Darnold? Must start in two QB leagues. Not very interested in one QB league. I feel bad for Sam Darnold because in a normal week, I feel like he could be the top streamer of the week in this situation. But Daniel Jones is playing the Falcons and Derek Carr has turned into a
Starting point is 00:48:37 starting quarterback and Justin Fields is making his first start. And so we just don't talk about Sam Darnold at all. Yeah. You know, I, I feel that way about all of them because I'm just curious to see the start percentages for these guys. There are no bye weeks and a lot of people
Starting point is 00:48:51 have a great quarterback. I don't know how many people are going to start Daniel Jones or Carr or whatever. I just want to say because I won't be on the podcast tomorrow so it's my only chance to talk about my Daniel Jones projection slash ranking. I forcefully moved him down in my rankings
Starting point is 00:49:10 to make him 11th. Because in my projections and currently, nothing's changed in the projections. It was the first run, the second run, the third run. It'll probably be the seventh run. Daniel Jones came out as QB6 for this week. So who are you turning him over right now? You have him 11th. Who's
Starting point is 00:49:27 12? Carr. 13. Tannehill. 14. Cousins. All right. Let's go back to this game here and finish up. Who is Aaron Rogers? You guys are sitting in
Starting point is 00:49:43 is what? 17. I'll probably move him up a little bit. I don't love it. I don't like it. Listen, Robbie Anderson is a 37th for Dave and Jamie 45th for Heath and non PPR, not ranked in full PPR. So we're sitting Robbie Anderson.
Starting point is 00:50:01 We just want to, we just want to see him perform. Well, a couple of things. Number one, the target chair isn't what it was last year. Darnold is definitely checking it down a little bit more. McCaffrey is a big part of that. DJ Moore's been getting a nice chunk of the target chair.
Starting point is 00:50:17 And I just see this as a game where the Panthers aren't going to have to throw a lot. So that's one of the reasons why I'm nervous about Darnold. I think he'll have success when he throws, but I think he'll keep it short. And Robbie is still running plenty of deep routes that you're going to have to hope
Starting point is 00:50:33 that Darnold connects with him on like he did in week one. And I don't think you have to take that chance just yet. So he's no better than a low-end flex. Okay, and you have, Dave, you have DJ Moore 25th. Heath has him 12th,
Starting point is 00:50:46 14th and PPR. So I look, everybody's going to start DJ more, I think coming off of a great game and he's getting, why do you hate DJ more? Why do you hate DJ more? I think there are a lot of receivers this week that have a chance to have a big blow up game.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And I'm a little worried that DJ more could give us six for 80, seven for 70, not quite leave us with a huge, huge game like he did last week. Any interest in Dan Arnold, who is 3% rostered in the Texans? It's been two games, but they've faced Jacksonville and Houston, and they've been, sorry, Jacksonville and Cleveland, and they've been really bad against tight ends. So any interest in Dan Arnold?
Starting point is 00:51:26 He's among the touchdown or bust guys. Can we wait until Dan Arnold scores a touchdown before we ask about him again? If he scores this week, then we can ask him about him again next week. That's fine. All right, but he had 55 yards last week, so that would make him probably a top 12 tight end most weeks. Are you starting any Texans?
Starting point is 00:51:45 And really, it's just Brandon Cooks, right? That you might consider. And I'm nervous about Cooks. He had four uncatchable targets last week from Davis Mills, a fifth target that bounced off his arm because he just wasn't on the same page with him. And everything that he did catch from Mills was short stuff. 11 yards or closer to the line of scrimmage for him in that game it included a touchdown but he's
Starting point is 00:52:10 going to need and i think there will be targets for him but he's going to need to break away on a couple of long runs this panthers defense has been good through the first two weeks of the season they're getting pressure on the quarterback their top two cornerbacks have been playing very well. I think this is a tough game for Cooks. I've got them flexed at best this week. Okay. Would you start Elijah Mitchell or Cooks? Haven't reviewed Mitchell yet. I would be tempted to start Mitchell over Cooks in non-PPR.
Starting point is 00:52:39 That's Sunday night against Green Bay. Or is it Monday night? No, Sunday night against Green Bay. Monday night. And would you start Robbie Anderson or Brandon Cooks? Cooks. Cooks. I like Marquise Brown and Devontae Smith this week in their matchup.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Smith has the Cowboys. Brown has the Lions. Would you start both of them over Brandon Cooks? Pretty sure I would. Yeah. Okay. Antonio Brown or Brandon Cooks. Pretty sure I would. Yeah. Okay. Antonio Brown or Brandon Cooks? Brown.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I think I have Cooks higher, but I'll probably just move Brown ahead of him. And Carolina's DST is number two for Dave and Jamie and 12th for Heath. Wow. Lower than Daniel Jones in their respective rankings. I would rather start Daniel Jones than the Carolina defense, yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Well, you can start in their 62% roster as of right now. Well, let's... Let's call the fantasy cops. All right. This is from Billy from a city whose NFL team should definitely start tanking. Billy says, get that music back up.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Hey, Orioles, Nationals, Pirates, and Cubs. I guess those are tanking teams. After hearing Heath's disgraceful tactics in his Dynasty League, and you've heard more of them today, by the way, I had to reach out because I have the solution. In my Dynasty League, the draft order is determined by inverse possible points. Possible points for. Basically, the computer does best ball for everyone and ranks them based on that,
Starting point is 00:54:13 not actual points you scored or your record. This means that in order to tank, you must sell everyone and can't just bench people and lose on purpose. I care less about that than this. Hopefully you can pass this along on the show so no one has to deal with gutless weenies like Heath in their leagues ever again. See, I think I'd still be okay
Starting point is 00:54:35 because my bench, most of the guys on my bench score zero every single week. So I think even if we were doing that, everyone else's bench is outscoring mine by enough that I would still be okay. I think I'd put Mahomes on your bench? Well, that's the one guy.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Also, Joshua Kelly and Pharaoh Brown and Josh Reynolds and Josh Gordon and Kerryon Johnson, DJ Dallas, Wayne Gallman. All right, you're good. You suck in all leagues. This is from Steven. 12-team redraft PPR league. It's a one-quarterback
Starting point is 00:55:08 league. One guy in the league drafted Russell Wilson, Josh Allen, and three other starting quarterbacks. This has caused a number of teams to have no opportunity to draft a QB1. I personally was left with Burrow as the best option remaining as I was targeting Hertz,
Starting point is 00:55:24 who was auto-picked in front of me. Now, this manager is asking insane amounts back for a trade. For example, he wants to give up Josh Allen for Mark Andrews and Austin Eckler. Should he be sanctioned for this unscrupulous behavior, or do we ride it out until he starts struggling on bi-weeks? It's spoiled the draft process,
Starting point is 00:55:39 in my opinion. Somebody's going to lose on purpose. That was awesome. Yeah, I think that he is going to suffer because of this, and it was not a smart move. But no, he shouldn't be sanctioned. Just mock him when he missed the playoffs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:01 It might work out for him if he can actually pull off some of these traits, like trading Tom Brady for Saquon Barkley. Sure. Is it collusion if the rest of the league agrees to lowball him on his quarterbacks? If the rest of the league agrees to do something? Yes. It's collusion.
Starting point is 00:56:18 What if two owners collude to do something? Is that collusion? All right. Oh, wait. I hit the wrong button there. We're done with the Fantasy Cops. Thanks a lot for your questions. Sorry I couldn't get, wait. I hit the wrong button there. We're done with the fantasy cops. Thanks a lot for your questions. Sorry, I couldn't get to more. I got to read our Apple podcast questions. This is from Ana Sesti.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Give away. Grade the trade. Give away Damian Harris and Corey Davis. Damian Harris and Corey Davis. Get Latavius Murray and Chase Claypool. Harris and Corey Davis for Latavius and Claypool. D. It's a bad trade. I would keep Harris and Davis.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Hold on. I want to just look something up real quick here. Damian Harris in full PPR. No, I mean, the next two weeks could be tough. New Orleans and Tampa Bay, but then Houston, Dallas, Jets, Chargers. Never mind. Nevermind. All right. Back to Apple podcast from a very loyal listener in Indiana.
Starting point is 00:57:11 All right. 10 team half PPR. I was offered Devante Adams and David Montgomery for Aaron Jones and Chris Carson. Would you rather have Adams and Montgomery or Aaron Jones and Chris Carson? Is it? I'm looking at. Oh, Chris Godwin.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I'm sorry. I don't think it's Chris Carson. Did I say Carson twice? Yes. Oh, crap. Okay. Adams and Montgomery for Aaron Jones and Chris Godwin. I'll take the Jones-Godwin side.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I'm doing the math on the trade chart right now. It is almost dead even. I think I would take the Jones side. From Aaron Krug. I tried zero RB for the first time. I'm not sure what to do. I have Keenan Allen, DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, and DK Metcalf.
Starting point is 00:58:06 My running backs are terrible. Josh Jacobs, Javante Williams, and some backups. I'm 0-2. Which receiver would you trade? Keenan Allen, DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf. I guess you can't start all of them? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
Starting point is 00:58:24 If it's a three-receiver, two-flex, then you can do it. One, two, three, four, five. I would start. I would trade Hopkins. Yeah, if you can get... Yeah. I think you get the one that might be a sell-high.
Starting point is 00:58:40 More might be a sell-high, you said? He's the only one that could be. The rest of them... Well, I guess Keenan Allen could be. I think that people will try and buy low on Metcalf and A.J. Brown, but they'll fail in that endeavor, so you should be able to still get fair value for them. The two that you could sell high on, theoretically, are Moore and Hopkins.
Starting point is 00:59:00 One of those two I would move on from. But you're obviously expecting Moore in trade from Hopkins than Moore. Right, that's the thing. I say I'd trade Hopkins. That doesn't mean I like Moore better. It just means I can get more for Hopkins. I can get more fantasy value for Hopkins, not DJ Moore. I think you could get more for Hopkins.
Starting point is 00:59:17 You could get multiple Moores. Yeah. From DJ, I'm in a 2QB league. Could I trade Tom Brady, leaving me with Kyler Murray and Daniel Jones, and a depth piece for a top 12 quarterback like Rodgers, Dak, or Josh Allen, and a playable running back or tight end?
Starting point is 00:59:42 Well, so you're going to try to quote unquote downgrade from Bradyady but if you're asking for dac or alan i don't know that people are going to consider that a downgrade or rogers i'm not sure if people are going to i see him as a significant downgrade i think in a lot of non-industry leagues people would consider dac a downgrade from brady for. He might be, actually. He's got 13 rushing yards this year, which is not uncommon in a two-game stretch for him. But if it continues,
Starting point is 01:00:11 because he's coming off the injury. So let's keep an eye on that with Dak. FYI. Yeah, I don't know. Would you be looking to do this? I think it makes sense, right, to get Rodgers, Dak Dak or Allen for Brady and a playable running back or tight end. I would maybe
Starting point is 01:00:27 try a little bit lower on quarterback and see if you can get Kittle or Andrews and a top 15 quarterback. Okay. From Not Upset, Just Disappointed. Who would you prefer rest of season PPR? Mark Andrews, Chris Carson,
Starting point is 01:00:46 Austin Eckler. Oh, I guess this is a? Mark Andrews, Chris Carson, Austin Eckler. Oh, I guess this is a trade. Andrews, Carson, and Eckler. Or Ezekiel Elliott, James Robinson, and Waller. Probably the first three. Yeah, I think so too. That's such an indictment on James Robinson. But, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:08 From D-Boss. Or Ezekiel Elliott. Would you rather have... I'd rather have Eckler than Elliott in PPR rest of season. Yeah, but what's the gap between... What's bigger, the gap between Eckler and Elliott or the gap between Waller and Andrews? It's the gap between Waller and Andrews, but I think there's a, the gap between Eckler and Elliott or the gap between Waller and Andrews? It's the gap between Waller and Andrews, but I think there's a pretty big gap
Starting point is 01:01:28 between Carson and James Robinson, too. That's right, this thing, yeah. From Dboss, grade the trade. 14-team PPR, I gave up Rondale Moore. No, no, I got DK Metcalf and Rondale Moore, sorry. I gave up Deontay Johnson and Kenyon Drake. Winner. Moore. Sorry. I gave up Deontay Johnson and Kenyon Drake. Winner. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Probably. Yeah. Enjoy chicken for dinner this evening, sir. You are a winner. It's just so annoying that Kenyon Drake split time with Peyton Barber.
Starting point is 01:02:01 You know, if you drafted Drake, you know, Jacobs is so injury prone. So, of course, Kenyon Drake's going to be the lead back. That is not what I thought you were going to say was annoying. Me? Am I annoying?
Starting point is 01:02:14 I thought you were going to say it's so annoying that Deontay Johnson's been better than DK Metcalf. That's been annoying. Has he been better? Yeah. 34 fantasy points to 27. Yeah. DK Metcalf is going to go nuts. 34 fantasy points to 27. Yeah. DK Metcalf is going to go nuts. It's going to happen for sure.
Starting point is 01:02:29 It's just, how about Russell Wilson throws one of those deep balls to Metcalf instead of Tyler Lockett one of these days? I mean, if DK Metcalf could get that open, he would.
Starting point is 01:02:38 I wonder how many deep routes he's actually run. Yeah, I'd like to know. His ADOT's a little bit down, but it's not low. DK Metcalf's going to be fine. I was just teasing Adam.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I'm sorry to the emailers. I didn't get a chance to read your questions today, but I did read some, but not as many as I wanted to. You read a lot of them before the show. I did. It's fine. Just respond to all
Starting point is 01:03:03 of the emails currently in our inbox. Okay. I'll talk to you next Thursday then. We will actually talk to you tomorrow on this week's Thursday. For starters, sit for the AFC home games. NFC home games are on Friday. And we'll get you ready for Thursday Night Football, of course, with our live stream on YouTube, our Q&A at 2 p.m.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Eastern Thursday, youtube.com slash fantasyfootball today. Am I going to keep the streak alive in the Thursday night prop bet on FFT and 5? 2-0? I don't think I'm that good. It's a one-game streak. It's a one-game streak, but we're keeping it alive. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:03:36 All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today. If you want to hear Dave's prop, that'll be on Fantasy Football Today in 5 on Thursday morning. See ya.

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