Fantasy Football Today - Buy Low, Sell High! Plus WAS-GB Preview and Grade the Trade (09/10 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

We get you started with news and notes (4:00) and then get right into our favorite trade targets! Who are we buying low on (9:45)? TreVeyon Henderson and RJ Harvey are discussed. Go ahead and trade for A.J. Brown. Are we still good with Jameson Williams? Who are we selling high on (26:00)? Is Marvin Harrison Jr. a sell or a hold? What about Emeka Egbuka and Keon Coleman coming off of big weeks? ... Start or Sit for Commanders-Packers (42:55)! The Packers could be without two starting offensive linemen and that might be a huge deal for Jordan Love. Are we comfortable with any of the wide receivers? How about the Commanders running backs? ... We talk about Ken Walker's rest of season outlook (53:40) and we finish the show with Grade the Trade (57:30)! How did our listeners do in the trade market? ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On September 19th, producer Jordan Peel asks, What are you willing to sacrifice in a new horror film called Him starring Marlon Wayans and Tyreek Withers? Stay tuned to hear an exclusive trailer for the film right now. Do I look at you or the camera? You'll just look right at me. You'll just ignore the camera. There are a lot of people saying you could be the next great quarterback.

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Great me and you. I'm a fan. That's crazy. I'm damn near worship you growing up. Who are you? Who are you? I'm him. Who are you?

I'm him. Montau! Let's play a little catch. We go into the league! You want to play at your highest level? You want to be a legend? Give it! Let me tell you something.

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I'm not just gonna give it to you. You got to take it for me. What if I say no? Ron. Think of it as a gift from the gods. So what are you willing to sacrifice? Everything! This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports.

So what a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. It's time to talk some trade here on fantasy football today,

presented by BEDMGM, sportsbook born in Vegas. It's the Wednesday show. It's my favorite show every week. We get to talk about whatever we want and have a lot of fun for an hour or so, and we welcome you in, everybody. If you're watching on YouTube, YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. If you're not watching on YouTube, it's fun. I recommend it.

It's good stuff. Who's the most added player in fantasy leagues on CBS? What do you think? Fanon? Harold Fanon. Harold Fanon is not. He is sixth. Sixth most out.

Ooh. Oh, Markis Brown. Markis Brown, yeah. This is the biggest increase in percentage. So Marquis Brown went from 31 to currently 62. It'll be even higher tomorrow when more waivers run. Harold Fanon's still just 25. percent rostered up from five percent so marcus brown's number one who's number two it was

exciting to to get harold fanning and then i saw one of your um reports waiver reports and the next i bid 12 dollars from one league and the next highest bid was one oh isn't it fun though to click the full waiver yeah unless you're on the wrong side of it yeah uh who's number two i'm going to guess keenan allen is number two quentin johnson queen johnson number two queen johns number two Quinn Johns is number three. Number two is a collection of players. They'll play for the same team. The Rams defense.

Yes, correct. All right. Number four is Joanne Johnson, number five, Kisham Booty, number six, Harold Fannon. Anyway, that was the Waver Wire show. Today we're talking trade, and we're talking team names, apparently. Team name Tuesday on a Wednesday, Heath. Oh, you got your Star Trek chart on. I do.

Just for you, buddy. I didn't have any Star Trek team names yet, but I was looking for Harold. Fanon's specific team names. And I think that Shack can probably do better than me. But I did like Fanon the Flame, especially if you have DeMario Douglas and Harold Fanon, who was a Douglas was a Liberty Flame, or Harold and the Henderson. Oh, I love that. Harry and the Henderson's.

Yeah. I love that. That's very good. But you have to have Henderson on the team, too. You have to have Henderson on the team, too. Someone sent me Nico to Gallo, and I thought that was very funny, very cool. All right, news and notes, real quick here. Then we'll get into our favorite buy lows and sell highs.

George Kittles on IR. He's out at least four weeks. Joanne Jennings could play this week. And I've seen Joanne Jennings dropped in some leagues. He's down to 77% rostered. I know it's not that appealing if Brock Purdy's out. But Heath and I are putting in it, well, I guess shouldn't have said that for the other people in the league. But Heath and I are putting in a claim for Joanne Jennings in the Leftovers League, 10-Team Superflex league.

And Brock Purdy will be questionable at New Orleans this week. You didn't ruin, like, maybe my best team name of the year. Teacup? The teacup celebration, the thing that you, you were so wrong about, and then you dropped Cooper, you dropped Cooper Cup? That's what you were talking about. You were talking about the USA soccer team, the women's soccer, teacup celebration that I did not like. That's funny. Do we have a Xavier Worthy update?

No. Okay. What did they say he was day to day, right? But he's, which I guess the takeaway was he's not going to have surgery yet. He's going to try to wear a brace and get through it. But that's all. Not even ruled out for this week as of now for Xavier Worthy. So we shall see.

We guess not. Same with Quinn Sean Judkins. We don't have an update necessarily, but there's a chance he could play this week at Baltimore, Quinshan Judkins. Dallas says they need to see more consistency from Jaden Blue before he is active. So if you're stashing Jaden Blue, it's a long-term play. He's probably not going to be active this week against the Giants. Not that like, Jerry.

Actually, it was Schottenheimer who said that. Jerry said that he's probably not going to be active. And what I saw was that Schottenheimer said he needs to be more consistent. Philadelphia running back, Will Shipley, has fractured ribs. And Jalen Carter is going to play this week. Austin Echler was limited. This is a Thursday game. I don't think we're worried about Echler.

But this is big news. And we're, oh, I forgot. You know what? Thomas Schaefer, producer. I forgot to put. but I forgot to put the game preview in the notes. We absolutely have to preview the Thursday night game today. So we're going to do that at some point.

But the Packers could be without two starting offensive linemen. Zach Tom and Aaron Banks. Big deal. All right. So we'll get to that in a little bit. Tyree Kill was accused of domestic violence. I don't know when it was. It wasn't like it happened super recently, but he's denying it.

I don't think there was a win. was accused to, alleged to have happened eight times over the last few years. Christian Watson signed a one-year contract extension, $13.25 million. Watson is in a contract year, who he was in a contract year, so he will not be now. Giants linebacker Mike McFadden is going to be out for a long time with the leg injury. As soon as he left the game, Zachert's caught a touchdown on his backup. So keep that in mind for Jake Ferguson this week. Pittsburgh safety to Sean Elliott's going to miss a couple of weeks.

and as we look at injuries and I just talked about the Packers and then I'm having potentially two linemen out this week for this short week against Washington which offensive lines are concerning you guys in terms of injuries right now

and just overall performance. The dolphins, yeah. Giants. Texans. I don't know if the Patriots are hurt but they're terrible. Will Campbell is in 100% and their left guard is pretty raw

so yeah. that'll make for a fun game between the Dolphins and Patriots The Bears Just Definitely some issues there Not as bad as some of these other teams Seattle

I thought Seattle's offensive line Didn't do such a great job For their run game Okay Yeah I think Cleveland There's a lot of Sus offensive line play

And it's week one Right It was only gonna get Well that's a thing though It was like some of this Will get cleared up just by it was week one and guys are working

into their roles. Rams have two guards that are injured. Yeah, one of them should play, but sure. Another team that's got some concerns. I think a big takeaway for me, though, is two of the most concerning teams in the NFL in week one

came into the year with bad offensive lines and have offensive line injuries now on top of it, and that's the dolphins and the Texans. And it's, you know, do you even bought to even make a play for nico collins you know as a bylaw um i kind of i kind of want to just get out on tyreek hill i mean i i don't know that i could even get courtland sutton for him but sutton was drafted after tyreek hill i think i would just take this i think hill has more much more upside but infinite downside right now i didn't put any dolphins on my bylaws but i'm not

selling until i see them against the patriots but it could be too late for three What's that? It could be too late. Like they were so bad against the Colts. If they're bad against the Patriots, you're not going to get much for them. You know what I mean? Right. But if they have a big game against the Patriots, it goes the other way.

And then you might be able to get something good. Totally. I don't know. It's early to – it might be early to jump ship, but at the end – but gosh, things are so bad in Dolphinsland. I can't believe I thought they might be good. It's one week. It's one week, but it was a bad week. All right. Hey, we got a lot of great written content on the website. So we got early previews of each position. We've got obviously the waiver wire column still relevant for a lot of you. A trade chart. Dave does the trade chart. So check out CBSports.com slash fantasy slash football and all of our wonderful written content. And let's get into buy lows and sell highs. And Dave, you've got four. I think you each gave about four names. So we'll go through them and tell me how you're feeling about them, what you might. I don't know. It's tough to come up with trades off the top of your head. But.

go ahead well that's what the trade chart is for that is what the trade chart and so I can give you I can give you examples off of the trade chart and then you can either say oh yeah that sounds about right or oh gosh that doesn't sound close at all and that's a beauty and is in the eye of the beholder type of thing

okay so guys trade four Adam AJ Brown tops the list for me I know he didn't look great in week one obviously the target's stunk in week one I think he'll get right and I think the Eagles passing game will eventually come through we know what he's capable of And so if anybody is sour on him after one game and they're impatient,

this is the time of year where the impatient fantasy managers are going to lose big time. Because I talked with a buddy before the show. Someone in his league dropped Terry McLaren after we went. He didn't even try and think about trading him or benching him. Straight up cut Terry McLaren. It's ridiculous. I love those 14 leagues. It's not.

It's a competitive 12 team league that he's in. Somebody dropped Terry McLaren. It never happens in our league. That doesn't happen in our league. But if you can go and get A.J. Brown at a discount of where he was drafted, his ADP was in the 20s, I say you go ahead and do that. There were two trades that I saw that involved A.J. Brown, you guys react to these trades. This is not trade shark. This is just trades that actually happened in real life fantasy leagues. Somebody gave up Devante Adams and Matthew Golden for A.J. Brown. Oh, I think that's fine. What do you think?

I felt like it was a little too much to give for AJ Brown but I'm a golden fan How about this one? Jalen Waddle and Rashid Shaheed for AJ Brown Oh yeah, win. Love it. All right, so now rank these guys rest of season.

AJ Brown, Garrett Wilson, Cortland Sutton, Tyreek Hill. Brown Sutton and then you pause. And I'm with you. I'm with you on that all

the way. Yeah, you mentioned Sutton for Tyreek Hill, Adam? I would take Sutton over Tyreek Hill right now. Closer and non-PPR. But in full PPR, I think Sutton is the safer bet. Can I just say something about Devante Adams since he was part of that trade?

I try to find who was shadowed by good cornerbacks this week, and he was shadowed by Derek Stingley. And he actually had some success. He beat him. He didn't have a great game, obviously, DeVante Adams. But he had a 25% target per out run rate, even when Pooka Nakua was on the field. And he did get shadowed by Derek Stingley.

So I thought that was encouraging that he still was, got eight targets, four catches for 51 yards. And I don't know, look mostly like Devante Adams. Not super explosive, but could get open. All right, go ahead. Who's next on your list? Trevion Henderson is next on the list. And this is especially for people who see Henderson rostered by a manager who's impatient. One week does not make a season.

and Henderson was clearly the better runner on film compared to Ramandre Stevenson, but neither of them could really get going in the Patriots offense. What's the first thing Mike Vrable said after the game? We need to get the running game going. Who are they playing in week number two? The Miami Dolphins. And as long as the offensive line doesn't manage to get worse, they can play at the same level they did last week.

I think that they can find space for Trevion and Henderson. Now is the time. We had one way. And maybe it's the time for all the rookies that underwhelmed in week one, because we definitely had high expectations for them. And there are glimpses of a lot of the rookies doing things that we expected. And I think Trevionandhenderson is still on a trajectory to get more work and to be the best running back in New England.

And there's an opportunity to get them at a little bit of a discount. Jameson Williams is next for you. He had five targets out of 39 pass attempts at the Bears, at the Pack. The thing that worried me the most about the line. Lions was the play designs because they were running a lot of vertical routes right into the teeth of the zone coverage that the Packers were playing. Packers played a lot of two high shell. They did not blitz very much. They don't have to blitz very much.

They've got a great pass rush, as everybody saw. And they need to have more horizontal routes. And we've heard Jacob Gibbs talk about that and how important that is. The fact that the Lions didn't adjust to that immediately is going to be an example of the difference between Ben Johnson and John Morton. And yeah, that was tough to see, but I think the matchups do get easier. If Chicago secondary is still banged up this week, then by all means, Jameson Williams could have a blow-up game.

I think the Lions bounce back in week, too. That's not saying anything special. So it's another by-low opportunity on J-mo. Obviously, Calvin Ridley was shadowed. I think most, if not all, of his targets came away from Pat—not all, but most came away from Patrick Sertan. So Calvin Ridley—and the fact that Cam Ward, actually, a lot of people came away impressed with him. Yes. Yes.

Even like his third throw of the game was outstanding. He's a good quarterback. I mean, is it's giving up Tyreek Hill to get Calvin Ridley and and what? Or by the way, if you think I'm crazy for trying to sell Tyree Kill, then please

tell me. I mean, at this point trying to get out from under it is not a bad idea if you're going to get fair value for him. Because like you said, it could get worse, especially with some off-field situations looming and the potential of him traded, which may end up being better, you know, if he goes to, let's say, the chiefs, could end up being worse. I saw the Steelers as a potential designation for him. That could be

terrible. So if they're going to trade him or, you know, he decides to pull in Antonio Brown and just leave, you know, there's just so many different ways this could go south for him, even worse than it is right now. So is someone still going to value him at the same level, same draft cost, then sure, you should be trying to trade him. What I trade him? Would I trade him for Calvin Ridley, no. No, I think the problem is what Jamie just hit on, though. Like, we had the concerns coming into the year. We had a terrible week one.

We get a report about domestic violence allegations. I just don't know that you can trade Tyreek Hill right now for better than Calvin Ridley. Ridley and Jalen Warren for Tyree King. No chance. You'd keep Hill? I wouldn't. think anybody's giving you that oh you'd rather have ridley wait i'm sorry what side of that would you rather be on heath i mean i'd probably take ridley and jalen warren but i don't think i don't i mean

i'd love to know and that jack maybe can tell us is anybody been able to trade tyree kill lately in the last two days i think if all they're getting is calvin ridley and jalen warren i don't think they want to because the investment that they made in tyree kill on draft day was much greater than that. I'm going to go to my, I think I haven't been two of these. I'm going to go to one. I'm going to offer him for Cortland Sutton right now

and just see what happens. All right. Last guy's Travis Hunter, Dave. Just real quick on that, and then we'll get to the other guys. Again, another player that just didn't have a great, we've won another rookie. There were flashes of them doing some good stuff.

And I think Jacksonville's passing game is better than they looked in the, what they play, like a little less than a half before the lightning strike. Yeah. And then after the lightning delay, lightning strike was a whole delay. After that, they really just didn't look good at all.

So I don't really want to judge any part of the Jaguar's passing game quite yet. And so if there's a chance to get Travis Hunter, who's clearly playing a lot of offense, clearly going to see a good amount of targets. I think you can pencilmen for a minimum of four catches a week could be as high as six or seven. This week could be one of those weeks. Another player, just by low. It's time for football at BetMGM. Register with BetMGM to get instant access to the best variety of parlay selection features.

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First of all, you also have James and William. and your bylaws, right? Yep. Okay. I do think, though, just one thing that's a little concerning about Jameson is if they're going to give Tesla more work. Yeah. It's going to be a problem for all these guys because he's so talented.

And how many targets will he take away from St. Brown and LaPorta and even J-Mo? So I just wonder, like, are we going to get the Jameson that we were hoping for, the breakout that we were promised, you know, from him? Just if somebody else is now factoring. into this. I had the On the Box Square guys on FFT Dynasty yesterday. If you guys didn't listen to that, you should go listen to it. But Jacob was

in the fantasy points data suite throughout the show and said his biggest concern was that JMO had a 2% route win rate in week one. They kind of asked him to do some new things and it didn't go particularly well. But I still agree with the by-low on him. I don't love

route depth. Now, Justin Jefferson had one of the highest route depths last year. So it could work. But Jamos was way up. He had the sixth highest average route depth among 82 wide receivers with 20 or more routes run. The guys ahead of him were Jalen Naylor. So the Vikings are always going to be high in this list, it seems, but Jalen Naylor, Tyquan Thornton, Tray Tucker, Diami Brown, Alec, Alec Pierce, and then Jameson Williams, then George Pickens, Kishon Booty, then DJ Moore. The bears are also typically high in that list than Josh Reynolds. But I don't know. Like we want to

see James and Williams do less of just that downfield stuff. his ADOT was low but he didn't have that many targets only at five but yeah I don't know it's something to keep an eye on I guess Is that stat Adam from last week or last year? Last week week one Yeah I don't know what the lines were thinking

I talked about it already Right DK Metcalf and RJ Okay sorry Jamie so RJ Harvey DK Metcalf and Matthew Golden are the three others on your list here I just lump the two rookies together Because it's easy I think clearly

we all fall for this as anything when you get the shiny new toy. The expectations for rookies get out of control, and they disappointed in week one. Harvey is going to get much more work. I can't imagine Sean Payton on down watching him play, and the phrase we use all the time, you can't keep that in the box too long.

Like, you know, J.K. Dobbins did some nice things, but RJ Harvey is going to continue to get more work, and you have a very small window to get him at this point at a relatively cheap cost, whatever that cost may be. but I would, like, if I could turn Alvin Camara into Roger Harvey, I would do that. Whoa. Okay. Well, I bet you could do that.

Yeah. Oh, we should ask Dave about our, speaking of our Alvin Camara. We'll do it when we get to the sell high section. Never mind. Okay. We got an Alvin Camara trade offer. I can't believe that you want to accept it. You, of all people, want to trade for-

I don't want to anymore because we got Harold Fanon. Yeah, are we good. Well, we lost Kittle. All right, D.K. Metcalf was shadowed by Sauce Gardner, head forecast. Well, again, just golden. You know, more targets will be coming. I think there's too huge an opportunity for him to be good to, again, not feature him a little

bit more. I just want to say with Golden, though, I mean, and maybe even Harvey, when are you expecting to be able to start these guys? I'm probably still going to start Golden this week in three receiver leagues. So with the hope of, you know, maybe a shootout this week against the commanders and how that offense should operate. Harvey's going to be a flex, so a little bit more patient with him, but still excited. Week six on golden, week seven on Harvey.

Week six and seven, wow. That's after the byweek for Green Bay. Denver's by week is late in the year, but they have a couple of tough run defenses in front of them in weeks five and six. And so by then, Dobbins will probably be beat up a little bit. Harvey will get his opportunity. And Jamie's right. Like, go look and see that Harvey long run that he had. I don't understand how Sean Payton doesn't use more of him moving forward.

Okay, well, we, yeah, okay. I think that's two different viewpoints here because if you're really not starting Harvey until week five or six, at least planning on it, obviously things can change in a second. But then I wouldn't be buying low on someone that I was just going to step. Well, I mean, you could, but you're not going to get for something so cheap where you're just going to be able to stashing him. All right, Heath, your by low is Dak Prescott, Tony Pollard, D'Andre Swift, And Terry McLaren, Dak Prescott, Tony Power, DeAndre, so Terry McLaren, go for it. These are all probably pretty easy to explain.

Maybe the running backs are the most difficult because they were very inefficient in their first game. But they also got almost all of the touches. And I don't think anybody in Chicago or Tennessee is changing that. I expect the matchups to be better moving forward than they were for Pollard against the Broncos and Swift against the Vikings. Love the usage, hated the production. Do not. When I went through my projections this week, for the most part, except for rookies and maybe guys in new situations that we had some questions about, I don't adjust efficiency off of one week. When you go look at somebody's game log and they're yards per carry, there's going to be a seven-yard week, there's going to be a two-yard week, there's going to be a bunch of threes and fours.

Don't adjust efficiency off of one week. The usage was great. They're going to be okay. At quarterback, I thought DAC was pretty awesome against the Eagles. he had some drops again not going to face the eagles this week he's going to face the giants and everybody's going to think he's a top eight quarterback again after this week so if you can go get deck before then you should do that he's a top eight quarterback for me in my week two rankings terry mccloren jami talked about a lot the slow start at the beginning of the year expected for

guys that held out mccloren had that slow start he's i love debo samuel but debo samuel's not going to out target him nine to three on a regular basis this this will come back around for McClorin. Maybe you have to wait one more week. Maybe you have to wait two more weeks. But he'll be a guy that you start every week soon enough. McClorn was another guy that had a much higher average route depth than usual. And I, you know, again, I haven't been tracking that where I would know how much it fluctuates from week to week. But 10.7 average yard average route depth for McLaren last year it was 9.7. It's a big jump. So my thought was, oh, boy, is that because, like, they have Debo Samuel now to do some of the other stuff and he's just going to be more of a downfield guy.

But I think that would be an overreaction after one. They were close on a long touchdown. Oh, yeah. It would have been like a 70-yard touchdown. Yeah, I know. He completely destroyed, I think it was Paulson and Debo on that. It was wide open. Sure.

Wide open. And it was. Jaden Daniels overthrew him. I thought that if they had been practicing and camp together for a couple of weeks, they would have nailed that. Probably. Yeah. right i got i got laughed at for saying that by somebody well whatever um it's okay it'll be a so high two weeks that's the point you know i was watching i was watching uh the bucks

tape this morning and i was going myself baker's not really playing very well and then i looked at pf and he had one of the lowest grades of the week he had the fourth lowest passing grade of the week baker mayfield he's on heath sell high list probably for different reasons uh along with camara pitman and marvin harrison uh go ahead Yeah, and I'll get to those guys in just a second. I just wanted to put you at ease a little bit. Terry McClureen had eight games last year with an average route depth deeper than 10 yards. Okay.

So it did bounce around a little bit. It's going to be okay. I probably may just sound insane all season long because I said in the preseason, there's no way Baker Mayfield can keep up that ridiculous touchdown rate. And then in week one, it was an even higher touchdown rate. But I think you're right, other than the fact that he threw. three touchdown passes, which is kind of like, how was the play? It was not quite as good a performance from Baker Mayfield as I would like to see.

I don't like him very much this week. I still don't think he's going to be a top six quarterback. He was top four last year. There's probably a lot of people who do, though, because he did it last year. He did it again in week one. So if you could sell him, I would. Alvin Camara, as we talked about on Sunday night, I'm very concerned about his target share in the Kellenmore offense. he may not have his biggest split between his half-p-r and full-p-r value as I thought he was going to.

And other than the touchdown, not a very encouraging game for him, considering how the touches were split up, Michael Pittman's going to face the Broncos this week, and then who knows what the Colts pass offense is actually like. So if I could get something for him that I wanted to start, I would love that. And I still just kind of think the Marvin Harrison Jr. is Marvin Harrison, Jr. is Marvin Harrison, Jr. and he got six targets. He caught five of them and a touchdown. So he had a great day. There's going to be a lot of weeks where he gets six targets and has catches three of them.

So he was open a lot. I showed on Beyond the Box score, Marvin Harrison, Jr. Four plays where he was wide open, got only targeted on one of them. But actually, just more on the route depth, his average route depth was much lower, much lower than it was last year. And I do think that's encouraging. The target share, target per route run rate, not encouraging for Harrison. but they gave him a wide receiver screen, right? They would like pretty much never did that last year,

hit him in the end. He's always, he got the end zone targets last year. He got one this year, this year. I don't know. I'm kind of intrigued enough to see where it goes. Same. But I still think the problem is Kyler. Yeah.

Because Kyler missed him on a deep target. Yeah, at the very end. He's still going to be a little concerning. So if you want to go and if you're going to sell high on Marvin Harrison, make sure you sell high enough. And if you buy low on, well, you're not really buying low on Marvin Harrison. I think if you have Marvin Harrison, you shouldn't get rid of them unless somebody's just crazy enough to like get him. He's like, maybe you could get AJ Brown for him.

Yeah, I would do that. Okay, how about Tyree Kill versus Marvin Harrison? I'm not trading for Tyreek Hill right now. I'd rather have Marvin you. They have the same value on the trade chart right now. How about Trayvion Henderson or Marvin Harrison? Henderson for me I think that's what you need

Okay How about Omari and Hampton Or Marvin Harrison? Same I have Hampton ahead I have Hampton ahead and Henderson at the same value in PPR Heath

Okay Heath we were offered We lost Kittle We were offered Camara and Hawkinson for Omerian Hampton in a half PPR league And then we

ended up picking up Fanon so we don't need Hawkinson anymore because we have somebody better I just couldn't believe that you were even considering that I wonder what the trade chart says trade chart is way in favor

of Camara and Hawkinson that's what I expected but here's the thing okay and just not to criticize the trade chart but when you get two values over one a lot of times it's going to way

it's going to favor the two for one side but you still might be giving up the best player in the deal and then you have to say well who am I replacing that second player with so for us

Hawkinson, you know, it's a 10-team league. We'll be able to stream tight ends. So I just didn't, and Kittle will be back in four weeks, hopefully. So, like, just consider that with the trade chart. You can lose on the trade chart if you're giving up one to get, if you're giving up two to get one. What I suggest is for a two-for-one, you need to win the trade by more than 10%. And this is with the dynasty trade chart.

So Dave may have a different formula. And a three-for-one, you need to win it by at least 20%. It's 10% for a 3 for 1, and it's even up and a 2 for 1. I mean, that's kind of the whole point of the trade chart. What a great team name from Thomas Schaefer. If you had Fanon and Camara, Harold and Kamara. That's very good. Jamie, your sell highs, Breeze Hall, Giovante Williams,

Ameca, Abuka, and Keon Coleman. Actually, he made a trade offer for Dave in our podcast league. Brees Hall for Jackson Smith and the Jigba. His running backs are terrible. We have a surplus of running backs. I looked at his trade chart. JSN is valued less than Brees Hall.

So see if Dave's going to follow. I'm going to, I will huddle with my co-manager and get back to you. Don't do it, Dave. Why? I'm surprised that Brees Hall's got a higher value than JSN. I mean, what an encouraging week for JSN. What an encourage, oh, yes, no question. I thought you were going to say,

what an encouraging week for Brees Hall. Right. I wouldn't give up JSN for Brees Hall. But, okay, it's obviously close. Yeah. Before the bad Brees Hall news,

they were being drafted in pretty much the same spot. They were both around three picks. Right. Not by us, but in the ADP, you're correct. Well, they were in my rankings.

Oh, okay. That's true. All right. So, Jamie, talk about this, Bruce Hall selling high. Listen, he was awesome, but this may be the best value you can get for him at this point just based on what I think could still be a little bit of problem, slight problem, but it's the trapback situation of is he going to catch enough passes he only had two

and is he going to get the goal line work because he lost the rushing touchdown. Now he did have some goal line opportunities or inside the five opportunities. But if he does not run as well as he did, you know, are we looking at a little bit of a down performance for him. So just maximizing value. I think, look, it was, it was obviously amazingly, amazing to see the way that he performed in his usage, but just worried that he's not going to get enough receptions or touchdowns. It could be a slight issue moving forward. For Devante, it's clear, you know, just try and sell high on a player like this anytime you can. Abuka, again, similar situation to Reese Hall, is this the best game that he's going to have all season?

Godwin's coming back eventually, Mike Evans will be better. As Heath said, you know, we could get the Baker-Mayfield regression. So there's a lot of things. working not necessarily against the Bucca. He was fantastic coming off the strong preseason performance, but that was also against Atlanta. And then Keon Coleman, I'm curious what's going to happen this week, you know, based on how the Jets will play him and may have been his best game. So a very encouraging performance in week one, but, you know, can you, again, maximize value for players that were drafted a little bit later? And it's funny because, look, we like Dubka and we liked Coleman. And then they go out and they reward us with big week ones. And now

we're telling you to trade them. But you really need to get something very good for them. And Coleman, I mean, Coleman had seven catches, 95 yards, and a touchdown in the fourth quarter in a game where Josh Allen threw 46 passes, and he averaged 30 pass attempts per game last year. And, yeah, obviously, their schedule is so freaking easy going forward that they're not, I don't, I don't project that they're going to have to throw that much. That's not their identity, the bills. So I get it. I think with Abuka, though, like just hear me out on this, right? Comes out, first game of the year, catches two touchdowns, first game of his career. Chris Godwin is coming back from a gruesome injury and then a second unplanned

surgery after that. I don't know what my expectations could be for him. Evans is 32, although he was also shadowed mostly by AJ Terrell. Drew a lot of double teams as well, including on both of the touchdowns to Abuka. Why am I giving up on a mecca Abuka? I mean, not giving up. That's the wrong word. No, no, no, it's not, it's not giving up. Somebody posted in the, in the chat, Abuka for T. Higgins. Like, you make that trade in a heartbeat if somebody offers that to you. I got offered a terrible trade in one of the leftover leagues of Xavier Worthy and Cam Scadaboo for Abuka. Like, oh, never would I. Okay, would you trade a buca for Omari and Hampton? Again, I think that comes down to what you need.

Really? So, would I trade Abuka to get Hampton or I trade Hampton to get Abuka? No, would you trade Abuka to get Hampton? Yes. Yes. Heath? No? I don't think so. Really? Is that because you're so high in Abuka or kind of low on Hampton? I think I'm probably, maybe a little bit of both. Okay.

I certainly wouldn't trade Abuka to get Tyree Hill. Yeah, I could see it. You're just totally out on Tyreek Hill. Which, by the way, like doesn't this present a good, like a by-low on Jalen Waddle or now? Yes. I think, I think he was almost my by-low list. And I'm not, like I said, I'm probably, if I have Tyreek, I'm starting him this week, and I'm just praying.

Yeah. Because it's like the Patriots just gave up 364 yards to Gino Smith. Yeah. Their past defense might be awful. Well, Grisian is in play and he's expected to return this week. So just keep that in mind. Yeah. Maybe that'll fix everything.

It's going to shadow Tyree Kill. I'm pretty sure he did last year. I'll have to go back and watch that tape. All right. Sorry, we have the two Dave's Bilos, Sell Hise, Dave's Sell Hise, Zay Flowers. There's nine targets on 19 pass attempts. Travis E.T.N.

J.K. Dobbins, Debo, Samuel. I hope we're aiming very high with these guys, Dave. Well, that's the point. You're not going to give them away for nothing. But we've seen enough of Zayflowers to know that he does have games like this. And then he comes right back the next week and has four catches for 40 yards and no touchdowns. You could definitely try and shoot high for all these guys. That's the point of selling high.

It's not give away. it's sell high. And so I think Zay Flowers is one of those players where you shouldn't expect this on a week-to-week basis, and I think we know that by now. ETIN is a sell very high. We know what his track record is. I think he only has the one great year for fantasy managers

and otherwise he takes on injuries and there's other things that slow him down. Why would this year be any different? We're all very excited about what Bachel Tootin could eventually be. He's still in Jacksonville. So I wonder how long Travis E.T.N. will be a must-start type

of fantasy running back. J.K. Dobbins, it's just the inverse of R.J. Harvey and why we like him. And then Debo Samuel, the inverse of Terry McLorne. He had a great game in week one. And I really like how they game plan for,

or how they schemed him up in the offense, is what I really should have said. I don't know if Debo's going to be able to keep this up for very long, and we know about his injury history as well. He's the one that I would sell for like the least amount in return, which is easy to say because he's the one that we drafted last. You like Dobbins? better than him?

Dobbins better than... Debo? No, Debo's worth more on the trade chart. I would just try and get out from Dobbins before he has an RJ Harvey problem. Okay, I'm sorry, because you said Debo's the one you'd sell for the least, so that made me think... Well, no, obviously, I should have said that about Dobbins first.

Okay. Obviously, you're going to get a lot less for Dobbins than you will for Debo. Only... I got a little pushback on Zayflowers, and just because I... Man, if we go another week where the tight ends just are not the focal point of the pass offense. And Jay Flowers hasn't quite had games like that.

It was a career high in receiving yards in his second highest target share in a game ever. And it wasn't because they were chasing the score, even though they lost, they were up to scores for most of that game. He was just awesome. And he's a year three-wide receiver who was a first-round pick. a buca or flowers abuca flowers abuca flowers

I'll take a buca all right so recapping it by lows got some rookie running backs on there henderson and harvey were mentioned a j brown james and williams calvin ridley

Travis hunter dk mccath matthew golden a lot of rookies we're still bullish on the rookies dac prescott tony pollard dandre swift terry mccloren Baker Mayfield. Obviously, this is not, not everybody agreed on everything. Baker Mayfield, Camara, Pittman, Marvin Harrison, Jr., that when we had a little disagreement on. Breece Hall, you know, we were the lowest, like, in the world, collectively on Bruce Hall. His ADP didn't fall as much as it did for us, you know, as the rankings did for Dave, Jamie, and Heath, and where we were all drafting him. So if you can buy into what we're saying that the trapback issues here, I think you could, this is a guy. you could get a king's ransom for it because a lot of people were still really, really bought into Brees Hall.

Maybe everyone's right and we're wrong, but people were really bought into Brees Hall. Giovante Williams, Emeka, Bucca, Keon Coleman, Zay Flowers, Travis Eton, J.K. Dobbins, Debo, Samuel. And maybe a rule of thumb is to try to, I don't know, just to throw this out there. Because I don't want to say, oh, it's just so high in these guys, then you're giving away for nothing. Try to get two rounds better than what you've drafted them for. We start with that? okay unless you drafted Alvin Camara

in round three that's probably not going to work okay you got Nico Collins for him yeah some I mentioned I think I mentioned

all the shadowing that I noticed sauce Gardner on Metcalf Patrick Sertanon Ridley A.J. Terrell not exactly shadowing Evans but a lot of it and then the one that surprised me

was stingly because I feel like he wasn't much of a shadower last year and he shadowed Devante Adams and I think that's really important to note we're going to take a break and talk about Washington at Green Bay.

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I mean, listen, you boldly go where no man has gone before. Adam is wearing a cryogenic universal space uniform. Yeah, this is the one that I didn't realize until I wore it on the show that looks exactly like the Star Trek blue shirt. I've never worn... At least you know you're safe. The red is the one when you know you're going to be in trouble. okay okay it's good to know um yeah no it's uh whatever they asked the guys weren't read to go to a different planet you know they weren't coming

back is that right yep never seen an episode of my life i remember liking the movie though the first one okay let's get into the game here Dave Thursday night football or the Chris Pike first one which one the William Shatner first one no the original crew no no I didn't know that existed now the one that came out probably when I was like a teenager you like one with Darth Vader. Yeah, the Darth Bender was great.

All right, Dave, Washington at Green Bay Thursday night. Nah, nah, nah, na, nah. Competing stats of the game. In their last

seven games of the regular season, the Green Bay Packers allowed 3.2 yards per carry to running backs. I didn't really make much of it because they traded away their best defensive tackle. But then they allowed

2.2 yards per carry to the Packers running backs in week one. Meanwhile, the other side of that is among 48 running backs in week one. To the Packers running backs? The Lions. To the Lions, sorry. The Packers allowed 2.2 yards per carry to the Lions running backs. So, anyway, going back to the last half of the season in week one, great run defense.

On the other side of that, how about the Commander's offensive line? Among 48 running backs with at least five carries in week one, Jacori Kroski Merritt ranked second in yards before. four contact per carry behind Trey Benson. Austin Eccler was 14th. So they dominated up front. So look, there are going to be a lot of easy calls. I don't know.

There are going to be some easy calls in this game. Daniels, Jacobs. Who else? Is that it? A lot of Ebo. The game. Here are two. Yeah, I guess there really aren't as many as I thought.

Debo, I feel like everyone's going to start. But, um, but yeah, what about to, what about you? I don't think you'd be started across the board in two or Cera leagues. Who? Devo.

Yeah, probably not. How about Jacorikroski-Marrat, start or sit? And Echler, because the Packers do give up last year and in week one, a lot of receiving, like, catches to running backs. I feel like this could be a tough game for Bill. I agree. I'm Echler over Bill, and neither one's better than a low influx. Yep.

Perfect. Okay, so the easy starts are Daniels. Now, that's assuming Echler plays. If Echler doesn't play, then we'll see what they do with their past catching running backs. Last year, it was great for Robinson when Echler did not play. All right, so the easy ones are Daniels and Jacobs, even if Jacobs might have a tough match.

I don't know. I mean, the commanders were so good in week one, but still, everyone's going to start those guys. Heath, are there any other easy calls for you in this game? No, no, I wouldn't say it. In fact, there's not even a lot of easy sits for me. in this game. Everyone is a borderline starter.

Great. Unless you're in a three-wide receiver league and then Debo's must start. Right now we're Debo over McLaurin. Yes. Yep. I'll take McLaurin. Okay.

What about did any of the Packers' wide receivers crack your top 36? No. No? Jane reads on the injury report with his foot. That's probably going to be

norm the entire season. If for whatever reason he sits, then I think you can get more excited about Golden and Dobbs. Okay. And I will say this, just in terms of must-starts, I'm going to guess most people are still starting Tucker Kraft. Yeah.

Yeah, he's a low-end start. I have Tucker Kraft and Zachers, both in my top 12 tight-ins. I would start Kraft much more enthusiastically. Yeah, Kraft, I mentioned, I think only four targets in week one, but 22 pass attempts for love we hopefully get more competitive game and more pass attempts and also Kraft played almost every snap. He was the

pass catcher who played the most for the Green Bay Packers, followed by Romeo Dobbs. How about Jacori Kroski, Merritt, or a Packers wide receiver? Bill. Well, assuming that Reed's just not

actually, let's start Romeo Dobbs over. Okay. Would you start any of the waiver-wire tight ends, including Kyle Pitts, over the tight ends in this game? Yep. It's easily if London is out, and probably if Mooney's out. Well, we're not going to know either of those things, though. Does put us in a bit of a bind. I would say if Mooney does not practice, then I would take a chance on Pitts, or at least have a backup plan.

Okay. Starters at Jordan Love. Oh, what about Fanon? What about Joanne Johnson against, sorry Thomas to go to the quarterback's there. We'll go back to the tight ends. What about Fanon and Joanne Johnson, Hunter Henry, against Ertz and Kraft? I would take Johnson over all of them for this week and probably Fanon over Ertz. I have Kraft Johnson, Fanon, Ertz.

I've got craft as I start. The more I think about it, I'm probably going to have fanning over all of them. And Johnson's ahead of Hertz. Fan in the Flames. Starters at Jordan Love. I'd set him. Borderline top 12 guy.

Really tough decision. But I kind of want to start him. Can we just clip that and play it every week for Jordan Love? Yeah. Well, I think maybe you try to play the past attempts game. He really looked terrific. But I think anyone, hopefully you agree with me, the offensive line for the Green Bay Packers was great last week.

I mean, they really didn't have much trouble with Detroit, but they could be missing two starters. I'd be pretty excited to start, Love, if the line were healthy, because I think he's going to have to throw more than 22 times. but with those injuries it does it does really complicate things for me anyway agree all right we have like a j j mccarthy or i'm just looking at some of the chat questions mccarthy against atlanta or love love i'll take mccarthy for me

mccarthy baker mayfield at houston or love baker love for me baker by a mile Baker by a mile okay where is love in the rankings for you guys 13 12 like 18 24 holy holy day wow yeah offensive line I think the commander's pass rush

she'll get to him a little bit why are you so loud right now did you make your levels later Dave wants to make a point right now I don't listen I don't mean to be allowed but I do have like dueling lawnmowers going outside. So I'm trying to maybe talk louder than them and that's what happening. Did you raise your levels?

Next time I want to make a point. I'm just going to turn my volume all the way up. Are they in your living room? Turn them back down. They might as well be. No, I can't hear them. They're right here. I can't hear them.

We're zero percent of the lawnmowers, all of a few. Yeah, you're fine. You're fine. Okay. Sorry, everybody. I didn't mean to hurt your ears. On the plus side, my grass is just an incredible shape right now. Why are you so low on Jordan,

Because of the offensive line, and I think the pressure gets to him. He's terrible when he's pressured. So I think that's going to be an issue. And I think the commanders have an underrated defense. Where's McClorn in your rankings? High-end number three receiver. Low-end number three-thier. Yeah, I think same.

So is Debo the highest ranked receiver in this game? Yes, for me. And who's second? McClark. McCorn. I have Terry first. Debo second. Okay.

I'm going to read some questions now from the chat. Hopefully this will help clear things up for people. Jordan Love or Michael Pennix? Pernick's. Jordan Love. J.C.M. or Dylan Samson, half PPR? Is Judkins playing? Don't know.

Won't know by Thursday. I would play JCP in this format. Bill. I'm going to play Samson. Golden or Coleman? Coleman. Coleman. Dobs, Douglas, or Downs? Dops.

Yeah. If it's full PPR, I think I'll take Downs. Tucker Kraft or Ingram? I mean, you have to play crafting. Right. And Kraft, anyway. Craft or Leporta? Leporta. Sam.

Sutton or Debo? Sutton. Crosky Merritt or Warren? Warren. Calvin Ridley or Don. Which Warren? Jalen Warren. Either one.

Yeah, either one is right. Ridley. Ridley or Dobbs? Ridley. Ridley. Ridley. Love or Mayfield? Okay.

All right. That's it. Oh, Packers DST? Low and start. Yep. I'm not dropping them. Start the Rams over them? Yes.

But, yeah, I'm not dropping them and I'm not carrying two. defenses at this point in the season probably. They are at Cleveland next week, so you'll probably want them for that. And that is it for Thursday night football.

Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-ha. We have got to talk about Ken Walker. I have a segment called Get Out Now! Try to sell these guys while they still have some value. Tyree Kill, I think we've talked about enough. You guys really hear nothing.

No, nothing. You're good. he's literally a foot away from me with uh like a giant you have grass in your house bring him on the air go get him the good news the all of the mics that we use yeah okay all the mics that we use are very unidirectional get out of there david up get out of the air uh they don't pick up much so that's a good thing um we got to talk about ken walker Hey, I'm going to come on the air and say hi. You want to come on the air and say hi? I'm sorry if you're not watching on YouTube and you're just listening.

I did not expect him to actually do it. I didn't think the guy wanted to come on. Yeah, he's all about the lawn and not the, not fantasy football. No trouble. He's all about the lawn, no trouble. Exactly. All right, Ken Walker, I think he needs to be a part of this show. I was going to ask, how would you rank these three rest of season?

Travis E.TN, R.J. Harvey, Ken Walker. E.T.N. Harvey Walker. Wow. I have no idea. But I kind of get it. Oh, now I hear the lawn. Yeah, we hear it. Did you not open the window? Not close the window? Everything's closed.

It's right back where it was. myself talk amongst yourselves yeah i know i think i think ken walker is one of the biggest losers of the of the week and charbonnet got more carries than him charbonnet played third down charminet played near the goal line you know so i i had rest of season et n harvey walker heath you said you have no idea i like i don't think we have enough information um and i know like some people have to i'm just not really doing anything with walker i'm not buying low and i'm not selling high, I don't know how much of the foot is still a problem or if or when that's going to heal. I don't, I don't know if the Seahawks offense was not like a serious offensive game plan.

They're not going to do it. They did that week every week of the season. So I just, I don't know. I think that first off, if you have Zach Sarbanet, you got to feel pretty good after we won. You know, just that's the biggest takeaway, I think, from the Seahawks backfield. The other part of it, I think, Keith is right. Like nobody is giving you fair value for Ken Walker right now. And you hope that he's just going to become the guy that we were expecting to see in the guy that we drafted.

But it's hard to have that expectation after what happened last week and knowing how sort of the offseason unfolded. And I think it started to come to light Adam with the SPN report, right, that we kept referencing of the team really likes Charbonnet. He's showing up every day for practice. Walker's got this foot problem. How much of it is still an issue? There's just a lot of things that are unknown. And so I think just in the case of the other two guys, there's still an unknown with Harvey.

You know, Dave gave you a potential plan of when you can start him. You know, I'm a little bit more optimistic. I would, you know, hopefully get better production from him soon rather than week five or six, whatever the number was. I think in the case of ETS, like, you got the clarity you wanted. Like, they got rid of a guy to make him the featured running back for now. and then to open up touches for the guys behind him. It's going to be fascinating.

These are the type of things that are franchise-altering decisions in some cases because ETN's in a contract year. If he plays like this, he's going to really force their hand because what will they do this off-season? If Tutin does not show anything special or even, you know, Alan shows anything special, like they're going to have to pay ETN, whether they franchise tag him or not. You know, they're going to have to make some sort of contractual decision on him. It's just something that's going to be interesting to see. But he looked unreal in the first game for Liam Cohen

and reminded us, I think, of what the 2023 version of Travis Ythiann could be. Maybe this was his best game, and he's definitely a high candidate, but he's got the best situation right now of these three guys. The line played great in Jacksonville, too. I thought that Walker was still faster than Charbonnet, but every time he stopped his feet, it took him like at that extra second to like gather himself and like plant and go and it that's when all of his runs basically ended so if he if he's got a lane walker can hit it and he'll do better at that than charbonnet will but if he's got a cut and you know evade defenders he's he got hit in the backfield a bunch and it was the niners and seahawks offensive line wasn't great but there there's some concerning things about walker based on you know what he looked like in the first game. game. Okay. All right. Let's grade some trades from our audience. From Daniel. I would give up,

I'm not sure what side he's on. That's good. Receives an offer. Okay. Ken Walker and Neighbors, I think he would get Walker and Neighbors for Nico and Trevion Henderson. I have Charbonnet. Yeah, Walker neighbors for Henderson, who? And Nico Collins. I don't like that. I'd rather have Nico and Henderson. Yeah. I think I would too.

Yeah. It might be dead even on the trade chart. I get the appeal of trying to get Walker when you have Charbonnet, but I don't, I think that's too much. We all think so. From Papps, four point... Like what you'd rather have Charbonnet and Henderson? Hmm.

Yeah. Mm. grade the trade from Papps. Four point for passing touchdown. Give up Bo Nix, get Patrick Mahomes. C plus. Yeah. Weird that you're able to make that trade right now.

DRock, give up Diggs for Tucker Kraft in a PPR, tight-end premium league. B-plus. I like it if you're getting Kraft. Scott Morrow, give up Hollywood Brown in full PPR, get Jail. Warren. Yeah, I like that if you're getting worn.

Yeah, I'd be. From Dan 99 Jets Giants Fantasy. A lot going on there. Non-PPR gave up Tyler Warren and Marquise Brown for Calvin Ridley. I have Brock Bowers. Too much for Ridley. Warren and who? Tyler Warren and Hollywood Brown for Calvin Ridley.

And he doesn't need one. Okay. From Christopher, Trayvion Henderson and Brock Bowers for Chase Brown, PPR. It's overpay. D. C-minus. Trayvion and Bowers for who? Chase Brown.

Does he already have Harold Fanon or something? F. Did you see my stat about Harold Fanon, Heath? Uh, which one? Last 10 years. That shirt is so amazing. Rookie tight ends in week one. I'm going to go get the tweet.

Captain's log, Harold Fanon has a one week stat that makes him just as good as all the other tight ends in the fantasy universe. Keep making fun of me. I have to get this tweet pulled up here. Um, it shouldn't be hard for you guys. Come on, chat. We need a Harold Fanon Star Trek team name. You can do it. All right.

We're going to share this screen. How was your Tuesday? Damn it, Jim. I'm a doctor. I'm a tight end, not a doctor. That's from. Enough already. He's giving it all he's got.

That, damn it, whatever is from Star Trek? God damn it, Jim. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know. Okay. Here are over the last 10 seasons. Tight ends. Check your notifications.

Rookie tight ends. Oh, wow. Yeah. rookie tight ends in week one who ran at least 20 routes the guys who got the highest target per route run rate Tyler Warren like look at Tyler Warren 37.5% target per out run rate he's number one he is the highest target per out run rate of any rookie tight end in week one over the last 10 years harold fanning junior is second followed by kyle pits brockbauer's will disley t j hawkinson sam laporta and if i go even farther down the list george kiddle is eight there And you know, the most common negative response I've had to the Harold Fanon Love Fest is this is Isaiah likely from week one last year. And that's a possibility. It's also a possibility that's Brock Bowers from week one last year.

It's just so hard with all these targets. But I mean, I'm just going to keep giving the stats I gave on the CBS Sports Network show if you missed that one. The Browns led the NFL in plays two years in a row. It ran the most plays in football. Joe Flacko's average 42 pass attempts per game with the Browns. That's the concern, though. If they sit him, it's so bad.

I think it's so bad for everyone. Maybe. Maybe. Okay. Hey, guys. I think Dylan Gabriel can throw it five yards to Harold Fannin. It might be bad for everybody running more than five yards away. Isn't that the question? Is what Cleveland did offensively in week one, what they're going to do every week, which is, you know, not really,

on the run game and try and just get the ball out of Flacco's hands as fast as possible. And they did it against Cincinnati, which, I mean, good pass rush, but otherwise, I don't think we were writing home about the Bengals defense being particularly good. Likely was a byproduct of a week one matchup. That's why he had the game that he had and why we didn't necessarily see that again. But if we think this is the identity of the Brown's offense and this is just going to be high volume dink and dink passing, then yeah, Fanon is, could be really good. Okay. I mean, I feel like Fanon was basically their slot receiver.

Yep. And occasionally, they're wildcat. Yeah. Okay. Thanks for watching and listening, everybody. We've got starter sit for the AFC home games on tomorrow's episode. And then we're on CBS Sports Network at 1 p.m. Eastern. And you can watch it, even though I will not be on it, Jamie, just to let everyone know. So nice of you.

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