Fantasy Football Today - Chris's Bold Predictions! Pitts, Thomas and Chubb (06/04 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 4, 2021

We'll talk about D'Andre Swift's role as the Lions flirt with Todd Gurley (2:30). Plus more news including a promising Michael Carter report (10:30) ... Chris thinks Kyle Pitts is going to have a big season (13:00). Find out what Chris is hoping for from the rookie TE ... Chris's second bold prediction is that Michael Thomas will be WR1 (20:04), but his bold prediction for Nick Chubb is less optimistic (27:45). Does Chubb's small role in the passing game matter that much? ... Your emails at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Well, I'm a little bit sad today because I love Bold Prediction Week, and this is our last day of Bold Prediction Week. But hopefully Chris is feeling bold today. Hopefully he's going to knock our socks off with his predictions. How bold are you feeling, Chris Towers?

Um, I don't know, like a semi-bold. You know how sometimes when you're like, you know, in a word processor, you have like a bold, a semi-bold. Somewhere in between those two things. You know, I try to be, uh, you know, I mean, physically, I like to think I'm pretty bold, but, um, you know, I don't know about my takes. Sometimes I always struggle with it, you know, don't know about my takes sometimes i always struggle with it you know like yeah your bold prediction could be another person's normal prediction could be another person's you're an idiot thing so yeah i always struggle with it what what font what type of

what uh size font like a 12 you're at 12 today okay did you ever did you ever pull this trick well what trick did you ever pull this trick in college i don't know if the the younger kids will Like a 12. You're at 12 today? Okay. I need you to get to a 16. Did you ever pull this trick in college? I don't know if the younger kids will be able to do this because they got word processors that check this stuff. But in college, if you had to print out a paper, make all your font 12, make all your periods 14. Oh, no.

I never did that. Adds like a... Makes it like 2% to 3% longer in terms of your lines. You can get an extra page, page and a half on a 10-page paper. Yep. I've never done that, of course. No, yeah, I never did that. Hold on.

No, I was a great student. Had very good grades. Didn't have hardly any drops on my record in college. Definitely not like a dozen of those. I love it. That's a great tip. I thought I'd just make your font like 13, but no, this is even better.

Okay, Dave is here as well. Dave is an honest man. He would never do something like that. We'll go through the news and notes. I just didn't do the essay. I just didn't bother. We'll do our news and notes, and then we will do Chris's bold prediction,

one about Kyle Pitts, one about Michael Thomas, and one about Nick Chubb. So we're getting some quotes and some news for the Detroit Lions running backs, and Anthony Lynn, their offensive coordinator, who is great with running backs, gets them very involved in the passing game, he says he's going to ride the hot hand at running back, and then meanwhile the Lions are openly acknowledging that they are interested in signing Todd Gurley. So Dave, if you're DeAndre Swift manager, if you're thinking about drafting him, how freaked out are you right now? You got to start to get a little bit freaked

out because they're adding another body to the, to the running back room and Gurley. I don't know if it's a guarantee that he's going to even make the final roster. Maybe he will. I don't know. This is the team that had Adrian Peterson on the roster last year. Different coaching staff, same franchise. I'm encouraged by what Anthony Lynn had to say about finding ways to get his running backs touches. Long time ago, back when we did a lot of travel for work, we went to one of the owners' meetings. They have a coach's breakfast there. Anthony Lynn was sitting by himself at one point. Nobody around him. I went and sat down with him. That's how I got to know him a little bit. And we talked about just ways to get running backs to football. And I brought up the idea of just throwing screen passes. And he goes, I call those extended runs. That's one of the ways

that he's talking about here, about getting his running backs more involved. He doesn't want to do just traditional handoffs and tosses and delays, whatever. He wants to throw the ball a little bit to his running backs. We saw that already. You knew that already, but it's something that's on Anthony Lynn's mind. And that's something that would especially help DeAndre Swift. So I'm encouraged by that. I'd be a little discouraged if Todd Gurley is there. Obviously a coach is going to play the hot hand when it comes to his running back. DeAndre Swift just doesn't have it one week, and Jamal Williams does. Of course, Jamal Williams is going to have the hot hand that week, but no one knows that,

including the coaches and including the players, until the game actually begins. I still believe that DeAndre Swift is going to be a guy that can get you close to 70 catches. I still believe that he can get you close to 200 carries if he can stay healthy. I still believe in him as somewhere between a very low-end number one PPR running back and a very quality number two fantasy running back overall. Okay, so you're not going to move him down in your rankings? I haven't yet, but I also haven't until there's confirmation that Gurley's signing there. And I don't know why they would do it. I don't know why they would do it. I don't know.

It's like the coaches sometimes are like the fantasy managers that don't really pay attention to what's happening around the league, and then they see a name that's out there. Oh, my God. I remember when Todd Gurley was good. Let's get him. They want experience. They want experience.

And does this just make you wonder if the Lions view DeAndre Swift as a bell cow, you know, he's obviously going to get the catches, but is he going to get more than, say, 12 carries a game? There was the quotes from Anthony Lynn from probably about two weeks ago now where he did a Q&A with the Athletic and the quote was something like, I look at Jamal Williams, and I say he's an A-back.

He's the kind of back who I can put him in early downs. He gets the tough yards. We can also use him in a third-down roll. DeAndre Swift is more like a B-back. He's the shifty guy you want to get in space. And that was the first inkling that you know i i certainly had well i think the signing of jamal williams and i think giving him more guaranteed money than any other running back got this offseason i think that's right um it was only

like five million dollars right yeah um that i i think yeah he's not going to be 250-300 carry. I don't think there's any way. Definitely not 300-250 is probably on the higher end. Carries or touches? Carries. Oh, yeah. I don't think either one of these guys is going to get to 250 carries. But you could.

I mean, you're hoping for like 75-80 targets in an offense that will use running backs in a valuable way, which was what Anthony Lynn has done in the past. And what I mean by that is not just screens. I mean, screens are great. They're high efficiency in terms of you're pretty much guaranteed to get that one PPR point for every screen, even if it ends up being a 0.6 point play because they lose four yards. But the really valuable role for running backs in the passing game is when they get used down the field and you see that with a guy like christian mccaffrey you see that with um you know miles sanders the

last couple of seasons in philadelphia even last year when he wasn't good he was getting downfield targets that's what you're hoping for austin e Eckler actually didn't really have that last season. His average depth of target was actually negative 1.2 yards, which is pretty surprising. The year before it was 1.3 positive. So that's what you're hoping for is that Swift can be someone who does get 75 to 80 targets or more. And it's,

you know, some of them are downfield targets, which have a better chance of turning into a touchdown, better chance of being chunk plays. All right, let's go to our next news item here. And Mike McCarthy, Cowboys head coach, praising, saying really good things about CeeDee Lamb and hyping him up a little bit.

And also that CeeDee Lamb has been lining up all over the field in OTAs. Any chance, Dave? Actually, I should check your rankings to see if this is the case. I don't think it is. Do I have him over Gallup? You bet I do.

Do you have him over Amari Cooper? Will you move CeeDee Lamb ahead of Amari Cooper? Not ready to do that yet. Although I love the talent, obviously. He was my favorite rookie receiver last year. And I could see him taking another step forward this year. I love the fact that he's going to play outside. I think I read that he would play in the slot 90% of the time,

maybe even more than that. So getting him involved outside of the slot, if it means having a favorable matchup, I'm down with it. They need to do things to try and take the number one corner off of Amari Cooper just to help Cooper out. And Cooper sometimes didn't even need it. Sometimes he had good games even against tough competition. Usually, though, Cooper's struggled against,

at least in the past, I know we've talked about it a ton. Look, I think that they're just going to try and force defenses to play zone against them all the time exclusively. That makes it easier on a quarterback. It makes it easier on wide receivers. Lamb's already being drafted as a good No. 2 fantasy wideout. I don't think this really changes that much. He is being drafted ahead of Amari Cooper right now.

In NFC, he is? Yeah. They're back-to-back 14-15 at wide receiver, but Lamb is about one and a half spots of ADP higher. Interesting. Okay. Tampa Bay quarterback coach Clyde Christensen said that, this is the second time we've heard this now, Tom Brady's knee was bothering him for much of the season.

It was an issue, and they didn't talk about it much, but it was an issue for Brady, and yet he finished with 40 touchdown passes, 4,600 yards, a Super Bowl championship, and he was the number seven quarterback in fantasy. So on one hand, yeah, he's getting older, and he could be breaking down a little bit. On the other hand, if that's what he did on one good knee in the second year in Bruce Arian's offense, it could be even better. I don't want to be an ageist here because I am the young guy on the pod.

My assumption is just as a 32-year-old, I feel pain all the time somewhere. My guess is if you're a 44-year-old professional football player, you're going to be hurt in some way at all times. I guess. I'm not necessarily sure I would look at and say, wow, Tom Brady's going to be healthy next season. Watch out. I don't know.

He's probably going to have some kind of thing. I think the fact is All football players do. I think the fact is Tom Brady had a knee injury, learned a new offense, got a new wide receiver midway through the year, and finished with 40 touchdown passes. I love it. I love it going into year two of this offense.

I'm excited. Yeah. What stops him? I think he probably takes a little bit of a statistical step back, but that's not a knock on him. But that could still be like 4,500 yards and 37 touchdowns. Right. How many quarterbacks are taking a statistical step back?

Last year was quarterback year. A lot of them are going to take a statistical step back, which is why the Russian quarterbacks could be even better. Okay, Connor Hughes of The Athletic thinks it won't be long before Michael Carter is the lead running back for the Jets. And Chris, what is your reaction to this? I have a hard time ever seeing ranking him more than an RB3 until, like maybe he goes off early in the season

and shows something in this offense is better than I expect. But my expectation is he's, even if he's the lead back, he's sharing work in what I still expect to be a very bad offense. So I don't have him ranked as an RB3 right now. Maybe I can get there.

I'm there. I'm there. He's an RB3. He's exactly what they're looking for as far as a cutback zone running rusher with pretty good receiving skills on top of it. He just can't pass protect worth a lick. And I'm worried about him running inside between the tackles. That could be hard, but I don't know how much of that they're going to ask him to do anyway. He shared with Javante

Williams at UNC. I agree with Chris. He's going to share here in New York too. And I also agree with Chris. I don't know how much running this offense is going to be able to successfully do, but they got a man and a half at left tackle in Mekhi Becton. They've got a new left guard in Elijah Vera Tucker. That's a good start on improving an offensive line. And anything that they can squeeze out of the run game makes it easier on Zach Wilson. I like him. I like the talent a lot.

I'm worried about the opportunity being plentiful for him. So, number three running back it is. Okay, would you guys rather have a Bucs running back or Michael Carter? I've got Fournette ranked ahead of him. I have Fournette ranked just ahead of him. All right, then let's go to Chris's bold predictions first, though. Next Tuesday, circle it on your calendar, folks. 7 p.m. Eastern, we are going to have a mock draft for you.

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see it really clearly as we'll be putting Schrager to work doing that, doing that production stuff. Okay. Chris, your bold predictions, starting with Kyle Pitts. What is your bold prediction on Kyle Pitts? Kyle Pitts breaks every rookie tight end record. And so just for context, I'm referring to the post-NFL-AFL merger. Oh, well, then who cares? Right, right, I know.

It's only 50-some-odd years of history. 81 catches. Keith Jackson in 1988. 894 yards. Jeremy Shockey in 2002. And 10 touchdowns. When was Ditka? That was before the merger?

That was before the merger. Really? Okay. And it was in only 14 games. Ditka had himself a season. Yeah, like 1,100 yards. Okay, so how many touchdowns? They named a restaurant after him. 894 yards for Jeremy Shockey in 2002.

And 10 touchdowns, Rob Gronkowski in 2010. The touchdowns are the hardest one, I think, to get to. But I'm projecting Pitts for 68 catches, 847 yards, and 6 touchdowns. And that's... I had to force myself to be conservative with that one because I didn't want to end up with a situation where I had a rookie tight end ranked in the top four and pushing for the top three.

Right now, I have him just behind Mark Andrews and just ahead of TJ Hawkinson. Whether Julio Jones is there, whether he's not, I think this is a, I think the best combination of a talent and a situation that a rookie Ted and has ever been in. And, you know, historically, it's really hard for rookie Ted ends to produce. I think there's only three in the Superbowl era who have more than 800 receiving yards in a season. I think there's only two with more than 70 catches and three with eight or more touchdowns.

So it is really hard for rookie tight ends to produce and be fantasy contributors. My general assumption has always been fade the hype to rookie tight end. Kyle Pitts is different, and I know I've said this before. There have been different tight ends before. Vernon Davis was different. Rob Gronkowski was different. What Kyle Pitts did at UF,

43 catches, 770 yards, 12 touchdowns in eight games, even in a weird season. That is almost unheard of tight end production. And now he's landing in a team that I still expect to be pretty pass heavy. And he's, I mean, at this point, you got to assume he's going to be the number two target okay kyle pitts will so the records again are 81 catches 894 yards and 10 touchdowns kyle pitts will break that might sound a little lofty and those were done in non-17 game seasons so if

you take those numbers and divide it by 17 they they're a little more digestible. You were talking about 4.7 catches per game. Adam, you think that Pitts can catch five passes per game on average? Yeah, I guess. I think it's possible. I don't know if I would lock it in, but I think it's possible if Julio's not there. I'm worried about Hayden Hurst. I think he still gets a role.

I mean, Hayden Hurst is just going to disappear. Let me pause with what I'm getting at. Okay. Sorry. Do not think of Kyle Pitts as a traditional tight end. Think of him as a wide receiver that we're kind of getting lucky with to call a tight end. Because that's really what he is.

Yeah. He's not your typical tight end. I don't know how much he's going to block. He'll block some. This is still Arthur Smith's offense, after all. But Arthur Smith loves utilizing tight ends. We saw it in Tennessee. I think that's something that will continue to happen.

Did we see it in Tennessee? I mean, it's not like John O. Smith ever had a good season. Well, he had some pretty good numbers, and you saw him progress. Did he have 600 yards? And they're going to use multiple tight ends in this offense. They're going to throw 150 more times than the Titans did. That's definitely going to happen. Yeah, yeah.

The Titans were throwing 400 to 440 times per year, and Arthur Smith's two years as offensive coordinator. I would be shocked if the Falcons threw fewer than 550 times next season. And John O'Smith is a very talented tight end. He's a very talented playmaker, Johnny Smith is a very talented tight end he's a very talented playmaker but he's a very different type

of player than Kyle Pitts is to Johnny Smith but you can't compare anybody to Kyle Pitts I mean yeah like Travis Kelsey you know those guys I think those are as far as statistical ceilings go

sure physically he is it's a it's a short list of like Vernon Davis and I'm not sure there's anyone else really. Right, right. But John O'Smith is more like a George Kittle. Takes a lot of shorter passes. He's really, really great with the ball in his hands and Kyle Pitts can be that as well.

But he's someone you want to push the ball down the field with as well yeah he's someone who can be a you know he can make plays in the short area as well but you want Kyle Pitts running up the seams challenging guys one-on-one right right dominating with his physicality and I think that's where you're going to see the the value in this offense because he's going to to to at least a certain extent, have to pick up some of the slack that Julio Jones left behind. Okay, so now Adam, get a number in your head. He's inevitably going to leave behind.

It seems that way. So, Adam, get a number in your head. If you think, how many yards per game is Kyle Pitts going to average? 17 games. Think of a number. Everybody listening. Think of a number. Everybody watching.

Think of a number. Are you going to guess my number? Or I just tell you? No, I want you to tell of a number. Everybody listening. Think of a number. Everybody watching. Think of a number. Are you going to guess my number? Or I just tell you? No, I want you to tell me your number. Then I'm going to tell you how much he needs to match the record that Shockey set. I'll just say 50. Right. 52.6. So that's pretty close. And if you're expecting 50 yards a game from Kyle Pitts, it's not

going to take that much more for him to match Shockey's record. It's the touchdowns. I agree with Chris on that. I have a hard time seeing him get to 10 touchdowns. For what it's worth, I mentioned this when we talked about Russell Gage. In the last nine seasons, Matt Ryan's had a number two wide receiver with more than 900 yards only twice. So they just don't.

It just, even last year, you know, Julio got hurt. Oh, yeah. The year before that ridley had 866 yards it's just ridley missed a couple games too right the heath missed three games in in 2019 yeah it just hasn't happened and this is a tight end as a i don't want to be low i mean i kind of want to be all in i kind of want to be excited about pits but the the history is against them but i totally i think there's a lot of merit to everything you're saying. By the way, not only was Mike Ditka a great

tight end and they named a restaurant after him, Kicking and Screaming is a very underrated sports movie. Very underrated. And he's really great in it. So everybody should watch it. Would you rather have Ditka or the Heavenly Choir of Angels? Is that from

SNL? Yes. Dicka. Mike Dicka. Or Hurricane. Dicka, 24. Heavenly Choir of Angels, 7. What if the hurricane was Hurricane Dicka? Oh, yeah, Hurricane Dicka.

I love it. What is your Michael Thomas bowl prediction? Bowl prediction number two is about Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas finishes your Michael Thomas bowl prediction? Bowl prediction number two is about Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas finishes as the number one wide receiver in PPR scoring in the 2021 NFL football season. Okay. My thought process here is, one, he needs Jameis Winston as QB.

I don't think Taysom Hill can get it done. I think the volume just won't be there, think Taysom Hill can get it done. I think the volume just won't be there, although Taysom Hill did target him a ton in the four games that they played together. I think he was on pace for like 140 targets or something like that. With Jameis Winston, obviously, if Jameis Winston is a quarterback,

I think they're probably going to throw 70 to 100 times more than they would if Taysom Hill was. Just those are rush attempts that Jameis Winston won't be taking. My other thought is Jameis Winston is not nearly as accurate as Drew Brees is.

And that is going to be a limitation on those shorter targets. But he's going to be a much more aggressive quarterback than Drew Brees was. And so I think you're looking at trading some of the catch rate, which was near 80% or higher during the Drew Brees was. And so I think you're looking at trading some of the catch rate, which was near 80% or higher during the Drew Brees era. Maybe that's 73% to 75% with Jameis Winston,

but you're pushing the average depth of target up a couple yards, and you're having a few more big plays, and you're having a few more touchdowns. And so I think, all in all, if Jameis Winston's the quarterback, I just think Michael Thomas could have an absolutely ridiculous season I have him projected for 125 catches 1450 yards and nine touchdowns with Jameis Winston as QB he's my number two wide receiver if Jameis is the QB obviously I wouldn't necessarily rank him there right now just because there is the risk of Taysom Hill being there but I've taken Taysom or Michael Thomas in pretty much every mock draft we've done so far because I can usually get him late second early third and I have him a lot higher

rank than that I think the I don't think he can have a 150 catch 1700 yard season like he did in 2019 I think that's an unrealistic ceiling for anyone, but I think his realistic ceiling is as high with Jameis Winston as it ever has been heading into a season. What about the concern that Jameis is the starter, but he could lose as many as seven snaps a game to taste some Hill? I expect that. I expect that. I expect that to happen.

I think that'll be the thing in the red zone, especially. Right. Well, I mean, that absolutely kills the upside for anybody in that offense. No, because I don't think it's necessarily Taysom Hill is taking seven pass attempts away from Jameis Winston. I think what it probably does. But it's seven snaps away from Jameis Winston. Right, right, right.

But what I'm thinking is, okay, so Taysom plays seven to ten snaps out of 60 to 70 per game. That's probably four or five design runs anyway. Maybe a handful of pass attempts. So it doesn't help, sure, but I think it's not like Taysom's not going to throw it. We know Michael Thomas, when Taysom Hill's in,

he was his number one target. And remember, everything that Michael Thomas did last season was playing through a high ankle sprain. He played through that high ankle sprain. He rushed back from it. It became an issue again later on in the season. He had to go back on IR. So I'm kind of giving him a mulligan for last year. And what he did with Taysom Hill,

that gives me a pretty safe floor for Michael Thomas, I think. And what he did with Teddy Bridgewater, he's been quarterback proof, but this is an absolute garbage receiving core. There's no reason why. Oh, it's garbage.

I mean, come on. It is at the very least. Have you seen the Jets receiving core? I didn't say it was the only garbage receiving core. I just said it's garbage. I mean, come on. It is at the very least. Have you seen the Jets receiving core? I didn't say it was the only garbage receiving core. I just said it was garbage. I don't think it's fair to call any receiving core that has Michael Thomas in it garbage. Right, right. Beyond Michael Thomas, it is, I would say,

it's the least proven. There's question marks. Sure. It is the least proven receiving core that Michael Thomas has ever played with. Well put. He should definitely be among the league leaders in target share.

I would think he should be number one, quite frankly. He's the most... He stands out in that receiving core. And obviously, Kamara is going to be a big factor. Kamara is probably going to be second on the team in targets. But yeah, Thomas is going to be a target hog for sure. I just wonder so much about the fit with Jameis Winston. He's never had a 100-catch receiver.

He had a 96-catch wide receiver. That was Mike Evans in 2016, I believe. And Chris Godwin in 2019 actually finished number two in PPR behind Michael Thomas. And he only did that in 14 games. He was on pace for 98 catches. So a different type of style. And that's obviously really important in PPR.

The last three years, the number one wide receivers had 115 or more catches in PPR is the last three years, the number one wide receivers had 115 or more catches in PPR. Um, but on the other hand, Jameis Winston has twice in his career given you a top three wide receiver, Godwin and Evans, and also Evans had another top 10 finish in there, if not two more. So, um, you know, he's, he's had good wide receivers before I just in full ppr i just i wonder if it's it's harder for michael thomas i don't know because i just don't know what to expect from his catches it's like you love his catch potential in a typical saints offense but you mentioned all the things about jamis winston he's made he may not be a great ppr quarterback if that makes sense

so it's more of a chunk quarterback it's tough to... The Buccaneers did not funnel targets to their number one wide receivers in the way, say, the Saints have with Michael Thomas or the Packers have with Devontae Adams or the Cardinals did with DeAndre Hopkins last season. I don't think Mike Evans has ever had a target share over 25%. And the last year that he was there, Winston in Tampa Bay,

it was right around 21-22% for both Evans and Chris Godwin, which is surprising because you don't really remember them having a number three receiver that was fantasy relevant for the most part. But how much of that is coaching, and how much of that is Jameis Winston, and how much of that is Mike Evans isn't and how much of that is, you know, Mike Evans isn't Michael Thomas. There are different kinds of receivers and Michael Thomas or Mike Evans isn't going to be the kind of receiver who necessarily demands a 28% target share because so many of his targets

take a long time or so many of his routes take a long time to develop. So many of them are lower efficiency throws. Whereas Thomas, I think he'll have more of that with Jameis because Jameis is more willing to take those chances, but they're going to have a lot more plays where he's designed as the number one wide receiver. He gets open in a short area and Jameis finds him. I don't think it's necessarily that Jameis isn't willing to throw those passes. I think it's more that he hasn't played with a number one wide receiver like Michael Thomas. All right, let's go to your next bold prediction. Before we do that, I want to let you know what's coming up this week on CBS Sports HQ. CBS Sports HQ is the network to start your

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Nick Chubb, what are you saying about Nick Chubb? What's your bold prediction? Bold prediction. Nick Chubb finishes outside of the top 20 at RB in PPR um oh that's bold he's the number eight RB in NFC drafts right now he's the number 11 player overall I have him as RB 15 and more like a fringe second round pick so I'm already lower than him on him than the consensus and I I do want to point out it feels low but I have him projected for the third most rushing yards in the league and the second most rushing touchdowns.

And he's my RB 15. That's ridiculous. He's not catching it. How is that possible? Because he doesn't catch passes. He has 25 catches in 19 games since Kareem Hunt joined the. Yeah, I get that. But I just feel like your projections must be way too high on too many other people because

he's going to basically lead the NFL in rushing and rushing touchdowns or come top three in both of them, he's not going to be RB15. No, but I'm projecting everyone to play 16 games. If he plays 16 games and has those numbers, he's going to finish

higher than that. We have to have a 17-game jar. You have to put money in every time you say 16. Sure, 17 games, yes. I will get used to saying 17 games in week 18 of the 2021 season. That's when he'll remember that there's 17 games

in the season. Yeah. Oh, the season's over. Yes, I can finally relax. Why are you on vacation right now? This is week 18. So here's the thing. One, since Kareem Hunt got to Cleveland, Nick Chubb is averaging 15.6 PPR per game, PPR points per game.

That would have been 16th in 2020 and 14th in 2019. So already he's kind of benefiting a little bit in 2019 from the fact that he played every game. Wait, hold on. Why do I have him as he was number nine per game last year? No, I'm adding his 2019 games with Hunt and his 2020 games with Hunt.

So what, he wasn't that good in 2019 with Hunt? He's averaged 15.6 per game in those 19 games they've played together. I think it's not. No, it's 20. Gosh, I don't know what the exact number is i looked this up earlier okay um and so he would have been 16th in 2020 at 15.6 points per game 14th in 2019 and that's including the fact that maybe you guys disagree but i feel like 2020 was kind of an everything went right season for the Browns.

I mean, obviously, Odell Beckham got hurt, but in terms of Nick Chubb's production, you really can't ask for a better scenario than what he was facing in 2020. They really didn't have many offensive line injuries. They were able to run the ball a ton because their defense played well. They didn't have the passing game to play aggressively, and I don't think they want to. And he scored 12 touchdowns in 12 games. And he rushed for, what, 100 yards per game? A little bit more than that? 5.6 yards per carry, I think.

Yeah, like, he's capable of doing all that again, but it was out of line with his career norms. And so you have a situation where a guy's coming off his kind of what I view as a best case scenario or pretty close to his season. Usually things don't go that right for most players. You certainly can't expect things to go as right as they did for him. Sometimes lightning strikes twice like it did for Derrick Henry in 2019 and 2020. And maybe that'll happen.

And maybe Nick Chubb is so special and his situation is so good with that offensive line and that coaching staff that it just won't matter. But it's really hard to be an elite fantasy running back. If you don't catch passes, you have to be so much better than pretty much everyone else. When it comes to rushing the ball. If I drop him to fifth in projected rushing yards and projected touchdowns, he would drop to 20th in PPR points. But when you say elite, you know, I have always said over and over, if you don't get the 50 catches, it's very hard to be a top five running back. But it's not hard.

And he's never been a top five running back. And I wouldn't draft him to be a top five running back. But it's not hard to be a top 10 running back. It happens all the time. Well, no, it's hard. No, it happens every year. It does happen regularly, but there are a lot of running backs

who don't catch 50 passes, who don't get to the top 10. You know, you have like... Like, I think top 10 is like an 80th percentile outcome. And there is a world in which maybe Kareem Hunt takes a couple of extra touchdowns from him. And he finishes with eight instead of 10. And he misses two games. Or he misses one game and leaves another one early.

And all of a sudden he finishes his RB20. I'm not saying he won't be good. But for fantasy, there are running backs that I like more than Nick Chubb, mostly because of the way he's used. If that changes, if they do decide to give him even two and a half catches per game and he gets to 40, I think he's got top three upside, maybe higher. But I've been given no reason to believe that that's a move

that they're going to make. What do you think? The first thing that stands out to me, and I knew that this was coming, was I went back and I remembered seeing Nick Chubb get involved in the passing game a little bit more toward the end of last season. It was in the playoffs as well. Last four games, 15

targets, 11 catches, 111 yards, and a touchdown. Is that a byproduct of them just trying to throw a new wrinkle in at the end of the year for defenses to prepare for? Could it be something that they try and build off of? I'm not saying that he's going to get three catches per game, which is basically what he was averaging here. But I think that Chubb could catch the football if they wanted to get involved in that way. They had already been giving him 15.8 carries per game in the regular

season. That includes the game he left early against Dallas. Throw that game out and it's looking more like 16 or 17 carries per game. You always want a running back that's going to get that type of work, PPR, non-PPR. There are only five running backs, five, that last year finished in the top 10 in pro football focuses elusive metric and yards after contact per attempt. Chubb was the only one to finish in the top two in both categories. So he gets you numbers after contact. He's elusive as heck. We all know this. He gets goal line opportunities, that offensive line. You brought it up, Chris. It was the top break run blocking offensive line in pro football focus. The schedule isn't that bad. I don't see a way for me getting away i don't see a way

for me to get away from nick chubb as a top pretty much a top 10 running back in fantasy regardless of format yeah and derrick henry's proven it over the past couple of years not that nick chubb is exactly what derrick henry is but you can put up huge numbers on the ground and not a lot catching the football and still be very good in ppr formats it is very bold to say that he won't finish as a top 20 running back the only way that i see that happening is if you you are predicting a nick chubb injury or that kareem hunt runs like god and that forces nick chubb to the bench and Kareem Hunt ends up playing just like at an MVP type level. I would say he's a running back. So if you did want to project an injury or predict an injury for him, probably not a bad, uh, sure. I mean,

we can do that and it has happened to Chubb, but that's not part of this discussion here. You're projecting everybody for seasons, but I'll tell you what, like when when chris said that he was projecting everybody for 16 games i thought that's actually ingenious because it's going to be rare for anybody to play 17 games this year that's what i do have everyone projected for 17 but yes uh one i do think there will be more running back injuries than than normal even on a per game basis just because we're going to be looking at teams playing 13 weeks in a row to start the season. I think there are four teams who have a bye in week 14? I believe so.

Yeah, and then there's a couple of teams that have 14 in a row to end the season. So let's just get a 19-week season and get two byes. This is ridiculous. Yeah, that'll happen. Yeah, look, I understand what you're saying. The catches are going to be really low in all likelihood.

One thing I do want to point out, though, is that the first three games of the season, Nick chose before he got injured in week four. Nick Chubb had 51 carries and Kareem Hunt had 39. That's a really, really bad split. But in the last six games, Chubb had 88 carries and Kareem Hunt had 39. That's a really, really bad split. But in the last six games, Chubb had 88 carries and Hunt had 41.

He's so much... Kareem Hunt is a good player, and I think Nick Chubb is so clearly better. I mean, he is arguably the best running back in football. I agree with all that. Yeah, so I think that there's this opportunity for him to actually really leave Kareem Hunt in the dust a little bit. People might not be aware of how tilted it was toward the end of the season after he came back from the injury,

but he was just so much better and got so much more work than Kareem Hunt did. And the defense, you mentioned the defense. It's going to be... I can't see how it's worse this year. It should be so much better this year. They have the opportunity to have the best defense in football.

A lot of people are very high on their defense. They had a great offseason. They get some secondary members who were hurt all of last year back. Jadeveon Clowney, all that stuff. So that should factor in well for him as well. I get what you're saying. So really, I think DeAndre Swift versus Nick Chubb

is a Nick chubb slam dunk and non-people are oh you do yeah okay but and and that's before actually two spots i have chris carson between them and that's before i didn't really change anything with swift yet going carson over swift or chubb arson over swift so chubb carson swift interesting okay can you name a couple other running backs that you have ranked just ahead of Chubb? Carson over Swift. So Chubb, Carson, Swift. Interesting. Can you name a couple of the running backs that you have ranked just ahead of Chubb in PPR? Yeah, and just to be clear, the gaps between

these players, I mean, Swift is at 250 projected points and Claude Edwards-Alaire is at 268 at 11. So that's a point per game difference between number 11 and number 16 or 17 uh i have antonio gibson cam acres jonathan taylor clyde edwards elare just ahead of nick chubb and it basically

just comes down to those guys are all projected for at least 20 more receptions except for taylor who i think is maybe not quite as good as Nick Chubb as a running back, but he might be. And the situation might be just as good, if not better. Yeah, I think we'd all take Taylor over Chubb, right? Yeah. But for me, it's really hard to get around the fact that I have Chubb projected for 26 receptions,

which would be 11 more, 9 more than he had last year. Yeah, he missed a bunch of games, though. He missed 4 games, but that's 17 versus 12. That's around the same pace, maybe a little higher. I have him for 1,440 yards, 11 touchdowns, and a receiving touchdown.

I have him for 1,440 yards, over 1,600 yards total offense. Oh, totally. Yeah, so he's averaged, Nick Chubb has averaged more than 100 total yards per game, I believe two straight seasons.

Yeah, 110, 111 in 2019, 107 in 2020. And that's pretty much what Alvin Kamara averages. But there was a difference between what Chubb did in the first nine games of 2019 and what he did after that. Yeah, but then what about 2020?

I mean, 107 total yards per game. Right, I think he's really good. He was at 98 yards per game after Kareem Hunt was added. Like I said, if you add Kareem Hunt, the time he spent with Kareem Hunt, it's 15.6 fantasy points per game, which is really good. But it's closer to around the high to mid-range, number two range for running backs in a given season.

All right, good stuff. Good stuff on Nick Chubb, Michael Thomas, and Kyle Pitts. We're going to come back with your emails after this quick break on fantasy football today. Whether in the game or in life, the right coverage can make all the difference. Securian Canada gives you that coverage. For more than 65 years,

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or visit SecurianCanada.ca. Securian Canada, insurance designed for life. Welcome back to the end of Bold Prediction Week. It's been good stuff from Jamie, from Heath, from Dave, and now from Chris, and a lot from you. We've read a lot of emails and Apple Podcast questions on our show this week. Let's go to an email from Anthony in Tacoma. Hey, Doug Skeeter and Quail Man.

Does anyone know this one? Yeah, it's that show. It's Skeeter is the name of the show, right? Oh, okay. You're doing a bit. I'm doing a bit. It's obviously Doug. Forget single quarterback.

But are we sleeping on Derek Carr as a sneaky super flex slash 2QB option? The Raiders played a lot of top defenses last season, and Carr essentially missed an entire game in Week 15 and still finished in the high-end QB2 zone for all formats. With Ruggs and Edwards getting another year to develop and the defense as rough as I can see, as rough as it is,

I can see a ton of upside for Derek Carr holding up the bottom of the quarterback draft pool. Am I crazy? Do you know where I've got the Raiders' pass schedule ranked? Projected strength of schedule for 2021? 25th. Dead worst. They have the hardest schedule?

According to the work that I've done and the grading of every defense, I think they've got the hardest schedule to throw against. A lot of pass coverages. They start the season against the Ravens and the Steelers. Right. So know that going in with Derek Carr. You don't feel good about that.

Yeah, I don't know if I'd feel good about that either. I believe that the Broncos' defense is going to be outstanding this year. Chiefs' defense should be a little more challenging than it was last year. Chargers, I don't know how bullish I am on the Chargers defense, but there are a lot of tough opponents. The Browns are on their schedule. This is not going to be an easy year for Derek Carr.

Don't forget about the offensive line changing. It's a little bit better in pass protection than it is in run blocking, but I'm not putting Derek Carr on my list of number two quarterbacks to target. Ryan Fitzpatrick, I'll go ahead of him. Sam Darnold's got a great schedule to begin the year. I'll put him ahead of Derek Carr. Pretty much every rookie outside of Mac Jones and Zach Wilson, assuming they're starting, I'll put in front of Derek Carr.

And what the hell, man? Maybe even if Zach Wilson's okay in the preseason, I'll put him ahead of Carr too. Yeah, it gets interesting when you talk about Tua versus Derek Carr the hell man maybe even if Zach Wilson's okay in the preseason I'll put him at a car too yeah it gets interesting when you talk about like Tua versus Derek Carr or Carson Wentz versus Derek Carr because I think you know maybe the most likely outcome is Derek Carr's a little better than those guys I feel a little more confident in what he'll do I feel more confident that he can get me 27 touchdowns and 4,200 yards in a season. But I think to a Carson wins,

you know, like you mentioned, Ryan Fitzpatrick, a couple other guys who are going ahead of him. Uh, I do think they have just much higher upsides. They do, but it's,

I wouldn't, I don't think I could ever get to Zach Wilson over Derek car, but, uh, no, no. I mean, it would take a,

a really eye-opening training camp and preseason for that to happen. But I think the point is in a two-quarterback league, you can't just think about upside. It's easy to do that in one quarterback league. I could see a nice case for Derek Carr to be the 20th quarterback or so drafted

in a two-quarterback league. You know what you're going to get. You're going to get solid production. He's not going to kill you. Can I give you the schedule after Baltimore and Pittsburgh to start the season, you know what you're going to get. You're going to get solid production. He's not going to kill you. Can I give you the schedule after Baltimore and Pittsburgh to start the season? You know what? Or do you not care? You can, because some people do care.

I don't really care, because I just don't think that there's a way that he's going to be so much worse than what he usually is, which is just like a middling, fine number two quarterback. It's going to be independent

of his schedule. He's not a guy that I stream in a great matchup because he's going to light them up. It's just not what he does. But at the end of the year, he gets his numbers. From time to time, we recommend him specifically for that because he's got a matchup that's great and he's worth taking the chance on.

I mean, maybe, but how many big games does Derek Carr have? It rarely happens unless he's facing the Jets and they don't guard yeah on the last probably say they had he had three I mean he had four games with three touchdowns last season he topped 302 of them 300 yards and two of them so

let's see a 25 plus fantasy points oh he had several games with 25 plus one two three four five six six like I said with 25 plus a lot of them came toward the end of 5, 6. 6, like I said, with 25 plus. A lot of them came toward the end of the year. He had three rushing touchdowns in a four-game stretch. By the way, two of them were against

the Chiefs. One of them was against the Colts. These were teams who had pretty solid defenses here. They were solid, but they weren't dominant. The offensive line was a little bit better. One was against the Saints, so I don't really view Carr as a matchup guy. If he's lucky enough to get a third touchdown,

he's going to have a big game. Otherwise, I expect 250 yards and two touchdowns or something like that. Yeah. Raven, that Colts game was pretty lucky. He wasn't that good in that one. Yeah. Ravens, Steelers, Dolphins, Chargers, Bears, Broncos, Eagles.

Maybe that's his first really easy matchup. That's in week seven. All right, I'm ready to move on to our next email. He's got to buy after that. All right, email from Jacob from Champ Champ Town. Don't know. Hey there, Mike, Chris, Antonio, and Rob. Those are Bucks pass catchers.

He's probably from Tampa. Yeah, probably. How did I not know that? I guess because they won two championships last year. Oh, the Lightning? Lightning strikes twice. Okay, need help with the keeper decision. 10-team, two-quarterback league with two flexes

and three wide receivers, and it's non-PPR. What a strange league. I can keep one player in rounds one through five, one in six through 10 and one in 11 through 15. I am keeping Kyler in the fifth. I need help with my other two choices. And remember it's a two QB league. So in the six to 10 range,

I can keep Lamar in the sixth Dobbins in the eighth or lamb in the ninth. It's Jackson Lamar Jackson the sixth, Dobbins in the eighth, or Lamb in the ninth? It's Jackson. Lamar Jackson, yeah. Yeah, I mean, he can only keep Jackson for one more year, the other two for two more years, but I still think it's Jackson

in 2QB League. Mm-hmm. He's got Kyler and Lamar Jackson. Yeah, that's fun. My choices for 11 to 15 are Tua in the 12th. You're not going to do that. Judy in the... I guess you could. Judy in the 14th or Tua in the 12th. You're not going to do that. Judy in the four, I guess

you could. Judy in the 14th or Tua in the 12th. I guess you could look at it Tua and Lamb or Dobbins versus Jackson and Judy, but I still think you go with Jackson and Judy. Same. Okay. Broward kids. This is from Rob. What are Broward kids? Oh, rob what are broward kids oh jackson and judy jackson and judy from rob i'm almost certain lamar jackson yeah he went well he might have been in miramar right high school yeah i think from uh well call me out on it will you just be quiet for where is rob from dave you want to talk about geography just where the hell is Rob from already? He is from Coral Springs, Florida, Adam. Lamar Jackson did go to Boynton Beach High School. So that is not in our county store.

He didn't go to Miramar? He might have been from that area, but he got into a school up there to play football. All right. Dear JD, Turk, Perry, and Bob. And mathletes. I mean, this is not one of the all-time underrated TV shows, Chris. I don't know why.

I started re-watching it recently. It's so good. I love Scrubs. Scrubs. Honest top 12 overall rankings for a 1QB PPR Dynasty League. Just what are your thoughts on proven talent versus youth and how you would draft the first 12 in a Dynasty startup? I meant to get the Dynasty startup draft open,

so that is my fault. Here's a... Okay, I have a non-PPR. And I've got a best ball Dynasty startup draft that I can call up. I've got it open right now. So in 1QB, it started with McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor. And this is with a bunch of guys from the industry.

So a bunch of fantasy nerds. Justin Jefferson went third. I think that's a little too soon for Jefferson, but I get him as a first round pick because stud receiver, you can have him in your lineup for the next decade. Dalvin Cook went after that. I took Alvin Kamara at five. DK Metcalf went sixth. Looks like Calvin ridley went seventh deandre swift eighth to heath uh aj brown nine cam makers 10 derrick henry 11 saquon barkley

you've been probably waiting to hear that name he went at 12 i think i would expect barkley to go a little sooner than that in your typical startup dynasty in the 12 team ppr startup dynasty draft that we did um last week i guess was it really last week it was like it was longer ago than that it does feel we got mcafree dalvin cook jonathan taylor saquon barkley deandre swift alvin camara derrick henry dk metcalf tyree kill just Justin Jefferson, Nick Chubb, and AJ Brown as your top 12. So pretty heavy mix of running backs with a few wide receivers in there. No quarterbacks. No one took Patrick Mahomes in round one.

No one took any of the tight ends in round one. I think that's a fair expectation. The oldest player is probably Derrick Henry, right? Yeah, maybe. Hill and... Who was the other guy? Is Camara... I think Hill is 27.

I think Hill's 27. Okay, it might be Hill. Henry's 27, and Tyreek Hill is 27. I don't know who's older. So those are the 27-year-olds. So the thing to keep in mind with wide receivers,

we're in a weird spot with dynasty wide receivers because the, the average peak age for a wide receiver is 27 or 28, typically 28. And then there's a pretty mild decline on average, 29, 30 most hit a wall at 31, most hit a wall at 30 or 31. So when you're talking about devante adams

terry kill stefan diggs michael thomas the top guys this year are largely in that range or close 27 or 28 and then the the next group you know your aj browns justin Browns, Justin Jeffersons, D.K. Mankoff haven't quite shown that they can be as good as the DeAndre Hopkins, Stefan Diggs, those guys have shown. So it's kind of a weird spot for the position because the number one spot in Dynasty for wide receiver is, I think, kind of wide open right now. In this draft, it was DK Metcalf, which I don't know. We don't know how long

Russell Wilson's going to be as QB. I would take Jefferson over Metcalf. I think I would, too. Although we don't know how long Kirk Cousins is going to be his QB. I might take Brown over them. Oh, yeah. I think you could definitely take AJ Brown over. Okay. Let's go to our next email from Stefan.

I'm listening to an FFT podcast. I heard the conversation of one of the emailer questions about how two flex spots changes things. I believe the emailer had two running backs, two wide receivers, one tight end, and two flex spots. One of my Dynasty Leagues has this same format, and it actually pushes up the value of running backs because teams can start up to four running backs,

and the wide receiver position is so deep, it means teams with an abundance of running backs have very little incentive to trade for a wide receiver. This results in teams stockpiling running backs and have very little need to move these players, thus creating a running back shortage in the league. That's interesting. You don't really have that bench need to move these players, thus creating a running back shortage in the league. That's interesting. You don't really have that bench depth to move.

That's an interesting angle of that. It was interesting to hear Jamie think that two flex spots pushes up the value of wide receivers and PPR. Our league is half PPR, and it's the opposite. Interesting. I would think for most teams, the ideal lineup will probably be two running backs, four wide receivers.

Well, it's easier to set your lineup that way. Yeah. What the emailers are saying is that if you just happen to luck into or draft a bunch of running backs and you can start them all reliably, it'll give your squad an edge. I think the problem is to draft five running backs and you can start them all reliably it'll give your squad an edge i think the problem is to draft five running backs right to to draft five running backs or even four running

backs who you feel would be worth starting in a two flex league you would probably have to take four running backs with your first four picks because once you get to really the fourth maybe the fifth round at running back you're looking at guys who are likely to score similar amounts of points to the number 30 number 35 wide receiver but you can get that that wide receiver later so that's the thing it's like there's a run on the better wide receiver at that point there's a but you can get you might be able to find a better wide receiver two rounds later. So there's this run on running backs early. And then, because you go, well, I don't need to take a wide receiver now.

Wide receiver's deep. And then the other problem that this guy is bringing up is sometimes you make a trade, you make a running back trade because you have bench depth at running back, and other teams don't. But when there's an extra flex, you don't really have bench depth. You have another starter.

So you're not trading running backs as frequently. So that's interesting. But I also think this is a half PPR league that Stefan was talking about. And our original email, I think, was about a PPR league. So that does change things. But I would add, if you go into the season with four running backs

that you feel confident in, you really have maybe two and a half running backs who you can actually start for most of the season. I think that's kind of a negative outlook on it. I mean, it's realistic. When you have an extra flex, your standards are a little bit lower. Well, not necessarily

because you don't have to start a running back in that flex. Right. Overall, it's not a bad idea in this type of a format to to go running back heavy early on i don't know necessarily your first four picks you're going to take a running back maybe your first five or six you take a running back and you prioritize the position if you do that and you hit on all four then you know you're an awesome yeah you're you're you're going to be great. You can always find a receiver with 15-point PPR potential off the waiver wire, even in a league like the one that we're talking about here. There's always going to be someone there that you can find.

I would say RB Heavy is a good team-building strategy. It's not necessarily how I would want to set my lineup every week. The flip side to it, though, is that if you go hog wild on other positions and then starting in round four, you just collect running backs, say, with your next six picks or six of your next seven picks, and you hit on those guys, be it because the starter in front of them gets injured or you draft a Michael Carter and he ends up playing like a superstar, then your team's in just as good a shape

as if you drafted four running backs early on and used that draft capital and two and a half of them are good. Yeah, and you could realistically take four wide receivers with your first six picks and end up with like Tyler Lockett as your number four.

Okay. Robert Patterson emails us. I can't wait for his version of the Batman to come out. Esteemed author, Robert Patterson. Hey, Nick, Ed, William, and Urban. Nick, Ed, William, Urban. I would guess Nick Saban and Urban Meyer. I don't know.

Ed, I don't know. College football. Ed Orgeron. Ed Or college football. Ed Orgeron. Ed Orgeron. Ed Orgeron. Right, and William Penn. William Wallace. The founder of the state of Pennsylvania.

Yeah, William Wallace. It's got to be it. Okay. I think that's it. I want to give you all my take on a deeper rookie-only draft guy. Tommy Tremble is a tight end I'm excited about, and he's basically free in Dynasty rookie drafts. I went to the same high school as Tommy Tremble is a tight end I'm excited about. And he's basically free in Dynasty rookie drafts. I went to the same high school as Tommy

Tremble, so I'm biased, but I'm pulling for the young man. But the Panthers invested a lot in him. Joe Brady planted his flag on this guy. He's an excellent athlete. He's had some injuries that cooled the market. He's a big slot or a move tight end. Also an incredible blocker, and I think he can stay on the field.

What do you think tommy tremble went to westland school west the physical profile looks really good i mean six three two forty ran a four six five at his uh pro day yeah i tremble how do you how do you how do you reconcile 35 catches in two years that's the problem is just not productive at all right so he's got to gain that experience it'll take him uh speaking of rookie. So he's got to gain that experience. It'll take him speaking of rookie tight ends. It's going to take him a little while to get to that point. Maybe by his third year

he's contributing in this offense. Bold prediction. Tommy Tremble is going to shatter every rookie tight end record. That'd be bold. That would be a big one. He just turned 21 yesterday. Drink!

Or I guess this is Friday. Two days ago. When people are listening to this. So he turned 21 Wednesday, two days ago. So age-adjusted production is important. The age that you make it to the NFL is important, but you know, I don't think you can really adjust his production for age because he

didn't really have any. So it's a, it's a projection on physical tools as much as anything. Okay. We are out of here for the weekend. We are not working for the weekend unless Julio Jones gets traded. Then we'll be working for the weekend. So for, uh, thanks to everybody for giving your bold predictions this week. It's been a lot of, then we'll be working for the weekend. So thanks to

everybody for giving your bold predictions this week. It's been a lot of fun. Thanks to everybody for listening out there. Have yourself a great weekend. We will talk to you on Monday on Fantasy Football Today and of course on FFT in 5 as well. See you later.