Fantasy Football Today - Complete ADP Review! Best and Worst Values Throughout the Draft (09/02 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 2, 2022

Kicking it off with the news (2:30) on the Eagles running backs, Brian Robinson, Michael Gallup, an IDP star that just got cut, Jaylen Waddle and more. Then we get right into average draft position. We'll tell you the best values in each round and how you should approach your drafts armed with this information. Heath also chimes in throughout the episode with good and bad values on ESPN and Yahoo.  Round 1 (10:30) Round 2 (15:40) Round 3 (20:30) Round 4 (29:30) Round 5 (37:40) Round 6 (42:15) Round 7 (49:30) Round 8 (51:40) Round 9 and beyond (57:15) Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

Welcome. It's time to get you ready for a busy, busy weekend of drafting. We've got complete average draft position going from one through whatever we get to. Hopefully well over 100 picks. We're going to break it down. We have some news and notes for you as well. Send us your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. I already recorded the mailbag episode that's going to air on Saturday. You can see it now if you want on YouTube.

Did that with Dan Schneier on Thursday night, but read a lot of questions, a lot of good ones. I read some Apple podcast questions and some YouTube as well. All right, good morning to Dave, Jamie, and Heath. You guys, how many drafts? I'm going to take a guess here between the three of you. Not drafts that are currently going on, but just over the weekend, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, I'm going to guess that you have eight drafts combined.

Jamie, what's your number? Still to go? Just for the next three days over the Labor Day weekend. Oh, I only have one on Monday. Oh, okay, one. I'll include today. One for Jamie.

Well, there's one that all three of us are in today. Including today, okay. One. I'll include today. One for Jamie. Well, there's one that all three of us are in today. Including today, I have two. I still have five to go. So that's two. I'm only going to count that one once. Dave, how many for you? The one that all of us are in. That's our salary cap draft. Results

will be on SeabrearSports.com. And the Waterbury Open is Saturday night. I have a saturday night draft fun all right you've plans heath do you have five drafts this weekend otherwise i'm going to go well under um no you're going to go way under okay uh i've got more drafts during the week next week yeah i've had more drafts during the week this week i don't have near as many drafts on the weekend yeah a lot of people are drafted t and Wednesday. I have one other than the one we had today together. All right. Well, enough about us. Let's get to the news and notes. Then

we're going to break down all of the ADP. And if you want to stick around, maybe we'll repeat the conversation we had earlier about our Labor Day plans that we did in the YouTube exclusive intro. Miles Sanders returned to practice and Philadelphia claimed Trey Sermon. I honestly don't remember if we talked about that on yesterday's show, but we definitely didn't talk about Miles Sanders returning to practice. So, Jamie, give me your take on the Eagles running backs right now, and does Trey Sermon matter

in this mix? No, I think Trey Sermon is someone that they'll just take a long approach with to see what he has left, if he has anything left, and can offer them something. But I think their three running backs are locked in with Miles Sanders, Kenneth Gainwell, and Boston Scott. The hope would be is that they don't try to force Trey Sermon into the Jordan Howard role that he had last year,

and then it just ruins everything. But I think Miles Sanders being back before the start of the first week of the season is encouraging. So for those of you who have drafted him already, you should feel comfortable with him as a low-end number two, high-end number three running back. Better as a flex. Better on your bench if you can. And then we'll just see how

the other guys are used. My guess is Boston Scott is more of a break glass in case of emergency type of guy. They have the Lions in week one? Yes, they have the Lions in week one. Would you guys rather draft Miles Sanders or Rashad Penny? Depends what you need. Penny, if you need a starter early in the season,

Sanders if you want somebody for a longer term. I'm going with Penny. Just because I feel more confident when he's healthy, he'll be good. I don't even know if Miles Sanders will be good when he's healthy. And I think you can get Penny a little bit later. All right. Michael Gallup likely out for week one, but Jerry Jones said that if it were the Super Bowl, he would be playing.

Gallup is rostered in 63% of leagues. I do have roster percentage now, which is fun. I think actually if it was the Super Bowl, he wouldn't be playing because Dallas won't be in the Super Bowl. True. Gallup is rostered in 63% of leagues. Jalen Tolbert is rostered in 30% of leagues. So these are guys you can draft late.

And Gallup may only miss one game. Brian Robinson is on the reserve NFI list. We talked about that at about 50, 55 minutes into yesterday's podcast. So in case you missed that, Dave, give me your thoughts now on Robinson being out at least four weeks. Is Antonio Gibson kind of moving to the front of the RB dead zone? When would you draft these two Washington running backs? And I guess three Washington running backs.

We should throw McKissick in there. Gibson is my 36th ranked running back. I would take Sanders and Rashad Penny ahead of him. Translation, I'm not getting him. He might get you off to a decent start this year. Maybe he redeems himself a little bit with this opportunity that he's found, but the coaches have already benched him once. I'm sure if he makes another mistake, they will think about benching him again.

I like drafting Brian Robinson in leagues where i've got ir spots i would take him at 100th overall take him put him on your bench for the draft draft ends immediately take him off your bench put him into one of those ir spots go find somebody on the waiver wire to pick up don't worry we'll have names for you and uh i i'm hoping he matters quite a bit in the second half of this season. Oh, okay. I,

I was looking for a little more hopeful tone there for Antonio Gibson, but you asked the wrong guy. Yeah. I guess so. If you are hopeful on Antonio Gibson, when is the right time to draft him? Round six. I mean, he's got a four,

four week audition to sort of put himself back in the good graces of the coaching staff to at least make it a split. McKissick has a hard time staying healthy, as we've already seen this offseason, as we saw last year. And so he could be a factor in the passing game if McKissick goes away and Robinson returns. But those first two games against Jacksonville and Detroit should hopefully be successful for Gibson. And then you've got to see what happens. I mean, look, we're hoping Robinson comes back after four weeks, and that would be ideal for him and the commanders and for anybody. to see what happened. I mean, look, you know, we're hoping Robinson comes back after, you know, four weeks and that would be ideal for him and the commanders and for anybody in fantasy.

But, you know, if you're Washington, you're going to make sure that guy's 100% healthy. So, you know, it might be six weeks, could be eight weeks. Who knows how long it lingers? So I think Gibson is absolutely what you said, Adam. He's in the dead zone. It's a matter of how much you want to trust him. But, you know, if you get him and your team is in the right situation,

he could absolutely be a number two running back for you. But I think the same thing about Penny and even Miles Sanders to a lesser degree, but it should not be that surprising if Antonio Gibson is just a high-end number two running back for the first half of the season. I'll take it. Oh, for the first half of the season, yeah. I was going to take it even farther. I mean, we know what I mean.

Yeah. First two weeks of the season, he could be just an absolute number one running back with Jacksonville and Detroit on the schedule. And J.D. McKissick, by the way, is only rostered in 47% of leagues. He was pretty inconsistent last year, and it kind of seemed like he had his good pass-catching games when we weren't really expecting it, but J.D JD McKissick is someone that you can draft as well

all right next news item head coach Mike McDaniel for the Miami Dolphins is very very very confident that Jalen Waddle will be ready for week one they have the Patriots in week one Buffalo wide receiver Isaiah McKenzie is dealing with an injury. His status for week one is unknown. I don't think that's going to change his sleeper status. You don't have to draft sleepers to be starters week one anyway. Eno Benjamin may have secured the number two running back job for Arizona. Let's go ahead and check Eno Benjamin's 6% rostered. All right.

And I'm going to throw out my Philip Lindsay from like four years ago, whatever it was. I'm going to throw out Jonathan Ward. I don't think you know Benjamin. I haven't seen anything that suggests to me that he's anything special. Daryl Williams is just the guy. I'm going to say Jonathan Ward could be not someone I'm drafting, but if it happens, remember who said it first.

What if it's just James Connors? Good. I said it on the show. That's airing tomorrow. James Connors? Good. I said it on the show that's airing tomorrow. James Connors is my biggest FOMO. I don't have any James Connors. He and Justin Herbert. They sound like they could just be a monster. Yeah, he and Justin Herbert. I'm going to make a point to draft them

in an upcoming draft because I'm so... When you have a salary cap draft, you can just make sure that you do. I'm not in it. Oh, that's a... Wow. I turned it down. a bum i'm sorry the best way to pick a team and adam wants no part i wouldn't even be opposed to doing the

draft if someone could play the team out for me but i assume you've already filled the league so uh all right you're out next up is kenny galladay has been running routes with the stiffness of a mannequin, according to ESPN's Jordan Renan. I thought this was the news section. I think we've all seen that. Well, the question here, Dave, is what was a better 80s movie, mannequin, or I wasn't prepared for this, Weekend at Bernie's. Is that an 80s movie? Oh, Weekend atie's was better okay mannequin had we could build man i don't know if it was heath i i may have choked on that i don't know which one i think it was night early 90s but i could be wrong weekend it's all the same it's we're old mannequin was definitely 80s

weekend at bernie's bib at 90s uh titan or uh tennessee signed wide receiver Josh Gordon 1989 well done Adam Tennessee signed Josh Gordon Houston signed OJ Howard those don't matter do they I don't think so alright you know about the draft-a-thon how about the tank-a-thon the Giants keep on tanking

they release linebacker Blake Martinez I shouldn't say that they're definitely tanking, but they're probably tanking. I hope he catches on quick. They don't have a choice. Spot that's as good as the one he had because I'm counting on Blake Martinez in some IDP leagues. Yeah. Oof. He's one of the biggest tackling machines in football.

He's 85% rostered in leagues that start IDPs, Blake Martinez. Tay Crowder now becomes a guy who was not bad last year in that format for the Giants, now becomes someone you might want to consider. Tennessee pass rusher Harold Lantry out for the season with a torn ACL. Tough blow for the Titans.

And the Manning cast is coming back for 10 different games, including Denver-Seattle in Week 1. Let's do some ADP review. This is why you're here. All right, we're just going to give you our thoughts all throughout the draft on the best and worst values. I think we'll go six at a time since it's hard for you to remember every name.

So the first six picks on CBS sports, ADP is factors in all different types of formats. So non PPR half full, all that stuff. Jonathan Taylor, Derek Henry, Austin Eckler, Christian McCaffrey, running back, running back, running back, running back, Kupp, and Dalvin Cook.

Taylor, Henry, Eckler, McCaffrey, Cooper Kupp, and Dalvin Cook. Dave, your thoughts on the first six picks, five running backs, and Cooper Kupp fifth overall. Is it normal for Christian McCaffrey to have an ADP of five? Are we seeing that anywhere else besides our side? That is all you. I would love to take him at five. I never get the chance.

That's where you have him ranked, right? I've got him fourth. So in full PPR, I have him fourth. I would totally sign off on this. I think McCaffrey's worth that type of risk. If Taylor and Henry and Eckler are off the board, I think they're safer. That's why I would take them out of Christian McCaffrey. You guys have done a great job all month long explaining what that grand upside is for McCaffrey.

Anybody who can remember his 2019 season can also recall what his upside is. But I just I'm not on board with taking him ahead of Taylor, Henry and Eckler. Overall, though, five running backs, one wide receiver with the first six picks in whatever order you want to take them. That looks pretty good, right? It's normally what you'll see. Yeah, I think over time I've seen a little bit more Jefferson over Cup because of the Stafford injury. And I don't know. I don't want to take like two or three leagues that people have told me about

and make this representative of the thousands of leagues that are happening. But I'm seeing a lot of McCaffrey at number one. Yeah, and I think like Jefferson's over Cook on both ESPN and Yahoo. Over Dalvin Cook. Jefferson over Cook I think is more common in leagues Dalvin Cook. Jefferson over Cook, I think, is more common in leagues where there's more PPR leagues, I think. They are back-to-back on Fantasy Pros ADP, and Jefferson is ahead of Cook in the top six.

Top six on Fantasy Pros is Taylor 1, CMC 2, then Eckler, not Aukler. What the hell was that? Derek Henry, fourth, and then the two receivers. Esten Aukler, star running back. Esten Aukler. What the hell was that? Derek Henry, fourth, and then the two receivers. Esten Aukler, star running back. Esten Aukler. All right, so back to our ADP. Let me interview him next time.

Be great at it. And by the way, Heath is going to sprinkle in some tidbits on ESPN and Yahoo drafting. Heath, you want to guess my favorite ESPN value? Your favorite ESPN value? Your favorite ESPN value. I draft him at every league. Say one more. No, Courtland Sutton.

He's going after Jerry Judy. He's like 48th overall on Yahoo, and I think he's in the 50s on ESPN. All right, so let's go. That's juicy. 7 through 12, I know. Najee Harris, Josh Allen, which we would never do. Joe Mixon,

Justin Jefferson, Jamar chase, and Alvin Camara, Jamie. It's Najee Harris, Josh Allen, Joe Mixon, Justin Jefferson,

Jamar chase, and Alvin Camara. Love Camara value. I mean, uh, you know, as long as there's no suspension, he's going to be awesome.

And, you know, I think we're going to look back and say we should have drafted him in the middle of the first round maybe instead of the back end of the first round or the second round. Understandably why we did, you know, especially early in drafts. But if he were to draft this weekend, I would take him over all those running backs. Over who? Except Dalvin. You'd take him over Mixon and Najee? I would.

Anyone else on that? Kamara over Mixon and Najy? I would. Anyone else on that? Kamara over Mixon and Nagy? I would take him over Nagy for sure. And he's actually picked 18 or 19 on Yahoo at RB11. Schneier and I were talking last night, and I know you're going to hear it tomorrow, but I think it would be a good topic for you guys here. He asked me why I took Aaron Jones over Leonard Fournette

in the Draftathon draft. I couldn't come up with a good answer. Why isn't Leonard Fournette a first-round pick after what he did last year? You could make the case a non-PPR as a borderline guy, I think. And he catches the ball a decent amount, too. Yeah, I think as a PPR case, I think he's going to catch a ton of balls. There's too many other receivers that I think kind of get the nod ahead of him.

I think Devontae and Tyreek Hill should get the nod ahead of Fournette in full PPR. I thought for a second you meant receivers on the Bucs. Gotcha. Oh, no, no, no. He's the first Bucs player off the board. No, I thought you meant his pass-catching role on the Bucs. Gotcha. Oh, no, no, no. He's the first Bucs player off the board. No, I thought you meant his pass-catching role on the Bucs. No, I was talking about VanSkew. I gotcha. Alright, so

that's round one. Round one has Josh Allen, who we're not taking until the third round, which means we're probably not getting Josh Allen in a lot of leagues, but so be it. Kelsey's the first pick of round two. We'll get to that in a second, but just to recap round one, it's mostly running backs. There are those three wide receivers, Cooper Cup, Justin Jefferson,

Jamar Chase, and Josh Allen. Let's get our next six picks here as we go into round two. Travis, Kelsey, and Patrick Mahomes back-to-back. Every time a quarterback comes up, we're really just going to probably discuss where they are among quarterbacks instead of where they are in you know, in the draft because it's just going to be too early for us. Kelsey Mahomes, Nick Chubb, a guy that has much different value depending on the format. Devontae Adams, Stefan Diggs, and Aaron Jones. Heath, it's Kelsey

Mahomes, Chubb, Adams, Diggs, Aaron Jones. That's the first six picks of round two. Yeah, and the only two players that I'm really taking at their CBS ADP here are Kelsey and Aaron Jones. I think this is way too... Even with a mix of non-PPR and half-PPR league, I think this is way too early for Nick Chubb. I'm not taking him until round three in full PPR and late round. I wouldn't take him this high in in full PPR and late round. I wouldn't take him this high in non-PPR.

Really? Why not? Nick Chubb? I'm more concerned about how bad that offense is going to be for the first three months of the season. Okay. But I thought you would take Adams and Diggs 16, 17. Maybe just a couple spots behind that.

I don't have them quite that high. This is more DJ Moore range. Okay, so you do like Kelsey and Jones. You do like Kelsey and Jones in this range. A lot of people are going to be taking Adams and Diggs here for sure. Chubb will be a wild card, and Mahomes will be just depending on how your league drafts quarterbacks. But I think Mahomes should not be the second quarterback

off the board. It should be. And I think in a lot of home leagues you will see Mahomes as the second quarterback off the board. I would take Justin Herbert for sure. And if it's four points for passing touchdown, I'll take Lamar Jackson over Mahomes. And I'll tell you one other thing. If

it comes out that J.K. Dobbins isn't going to be ready until November, that's an easy call to take Lamar over Mahomes then. Is that a possibility? Because that would be very bad for Adam's teams. November? No, there's no report. I'm just saying that what if that happened? That's what it would take for Lamar to fully jump,

maybe even sooner than November. But it sounds like he's going to be ready to go sooner than that and once he's back to full strength obviously that impacts lamar's numbers a little bit that's why i would still take my homes over lamar in six point for passing touchdown leagues i am not trying to speak it into existence don't do it jk dobbins is going to be back that late. Heath, go ahead. I'm just going to say I'm not as sure that the Ravens going more run heavy is bad for Lamar Jackson

because the year that he won the MVP, they threw the ball like 400 times and ran it almost 600. Well, he also had 36 touchdowns, and I don't think that's going to be replicated.

Passing touchdowns, passing touchdowns. Yeah, I don't know. I hope it is, but I would still take Mahomes and Herbert over Lamar, but it's basically like I'm taking Lamar every time because he falls further, and they're almost tied in my projections. He has just as much up as anybody. Yeah, and he was better in the second half of the 2020 season when they started running the ball a lot more

and his pass attempts went down. So we have seen that correlation. Better fantasy production when he's thrown less, which is kind of weird, but he's capable of succeeding in any type of environment. All right, second half of round two. Jamie, let's take a look at the next six picks after Aaron Jones. It's Fournette, Deebo Samuel, Justin Herbert,

Saquon Barkley, DeAndre Swift, and James Connor. So it's still pretty running back heavy. You got Debo and Herbert in there. And the other four picks in the second half of round two are Fournette, Barkley, Swift, and Connor. What do you think? Too soon for Herbert and too soon for Debo. But you also have guys like Mark Andrews, CeeDee Lamb, Tyreek Hill that are falling into the third round in CBS ADP. And I don't think that's going to be the case in PPR leagues. I think they're going to go ahead of the running backs. But I don't know. What do you make of it?

If you had an early pick and you took a running back, who do you like better in the second round? Would you take Barkley or Fournette or Swift or Connor? Would you take CeeDee Lamb or Tyree Kill or whoever else you have, Pittman, whatever it might be? I would take Lamb. I would take Tyree Kill. I would take Pittman all over Devo Samuel.

And I would certainly consider going running back, running back with those guys that are available. You tell me that Barkley, Fournette, Diggs, Aaron Jones Jones all in the middle to the end of round two um I'm I'm excited about that yeah you should hope you should hope that the there are three quarterbacks in the first two rounds it's gonna really give you great options that would help you out a lot too uh we get into round three oh by the way where where are we on James Conner now? Just let's sum it up. Late round two? Yep. I'm still in the late

round three for me. Okay. Javante Williams is the first pick of round three. So it's Javante, Mark Andrews. Oh, wait. I'm sorry. I just have to promote a couple things. CBS Sports HQ.

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Javante Williams, Mark Andrews, CeeDee Lamb, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, and Lamar Jackson. Javante Williams, Mark Andrews, CeeDee Lamb, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, and Lamar Jackson. Javante Williams, Mark Andrews, CeeDee Lamb, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, and Lamar Jackson. Heath, the first six picks of round three. Yeah, this is, I don't know, I think you could make an argument for any of these three wide receivers in round two.

I would obviously take Mark Andrews in round two. If something happens to Melvin Gordon, then Javante Williams matters in round two. But there's not any, like the only bad pick in this spot, we would say is Lamar Jackson. And the truth is in CBS ADP, I like Lamar Jackson's ADP than most of the top four quarterbacks. So like he's only basically a round away from where I would take him.

That's a great value compared to the other three guys. As we started the process of really getting into the rankings, Chris Godwin, we didn't know what his status was. And Mike Evans had basically become a second round pick. We see him here in ADP at 28th, so early in the third round. And that's ahead of Tyreek Hill. It's just behind CeeDee Lamb. It's ahead of AJ Brown. It's ahead of Michael Pittman. It's way ahead of Michael Pittman and DJ Moore and Tee Higgins and Cortland Sutton and all that. You know, what has changed that has moved Evans down for us? You know, we usually take him in the middle of the third round now rather than mid to late second

round. Dave, what has changed for Evans? Godwin is obviously part of it, but also I feel like we as a group have gotten more excited about some other wide receivers and moved them ahead of Evans. How do you see it? It's skewed younger. Michael Pittman has great upside, so I'd rank him ahead of Mike Evans. DJ Moore, I understand the case for DJ Moore ahead of Mike Evans,

although I think Evans might score twice as many touchdowns as DJ Moore, I understand the case for DJ Moore ahead of Mike Evans, although I think Evans might score twice as many touchdowns as DJ Moore this year. And Mark Andrews, I think, kind of makes that list, too. I think people have started to gravitate toward Andrews, A, because of the Dobbins injury, and maybe that means the Ravens throw a little bit more. B, because they want to be covered at tight end, and they know that there's really only three tight ends that they can look at and say, all right, these are true difference makers makers guys that are going to give me a huge edge and andrews is one of them so people reach a little bit for andrews and i totally get that i also think that evan's stock went down because they signed julio because he had a hamstring injury

and i really think there's still this weird cloud over all the Bucs pass catchers because Tom Brady was absent for two weeks and no one knows why. I'm really comfortable with Tom Brady being back now. I thought he looked fine in their preseason game. I hear he looks great in practice. Evans is back now. He's fine. I don't think he's going to be particularly affected by Julio Jones. I think he's going to have a chance to play the majority of the year.

I'm not worried about the hamstring slowing him down. I think he's a great pick in round three. I'm looking for him in round three every time. Okay. The big change for me was, I mean, it was the Godwin thing, but the reason I had him in round two is because I was projecting an uptick in targets because I thought Godwin was going to miss time at the beginning of

the year and each of the last two years he's been outside the top 25 in wide receivers and catches he was outside the top 20 amongst wide receivers and yards last year so it's just like I think you should feel a little bit nervous betting on his historic touchdown rate at a round two cost because that's that's really the only thing you were betting on. His catches and yards make him look like a round five wide receiver. Speaker 1.: Is it possible though that his catches and targets go up? We'll end it on this. We can't make this the Mike Evans show that without Antonio Brown, that Julio Jones isn't as big of a factor as Antonio Brown and we should expect more targets. What is

the possibility of that? Is it a high possibility? A medium possibility? A low possibility? Targets go up because no way Antonio Brown. I mean, you're not counting for Russell Gage also. It's not like just because Gronk is gone, they're not going to use their tight ends. They'll use a combination of Brayton and Rudolph.

It's still going to be a little bit tough for him to exceed his targets from where he was a year ago. I think he'll probably be similar, if not worse. And, you know, I think the thing that kind of stuck out to me is kind of the problem with Mike Evans. And it's, you know, why Tom Brady is as great as he is. Did you see he was covering Evans in the game against the Colts? Yep. Stefan Gilmore. Yep.

He's always going to draw the toughest guy. I mean, that's just the nature of how teams approach the Bucs. They put their best guy on Mike Evans where he lines up. It's where just, you know, what tends to be the problem. And I think that kind of speaks to what Heath is talking about from a catches and yards standpoint and why Mike Evans is still so good in the red zone. Because in the red zone, it's a little bit tougher to defend like that.

But in the rest of the field, you can try and say, I'm going to take Mike Evans away. Well, what does Brady do? Okay, there's Godwin, there's Gronk, there's Antonio Brown. This year will be there's Jones, there's Gage, there's Rudolph, there's Brady. So Evans will still be very, very productive. I mean, you can pencil him in for 1,000 and probably eight as a floor. It's a matter of will he get to $1,212,

and that's what you're hoping for, I think, if you're taking round two. He's been top 16 or better in PPR points per game five of the last six years, and obviously each of the last two with TB12 there. Is it top 16? Top 16. Which I think... And only one of those years...

Yeah, that's a floor, though. only one of those years. Yeah, say that again. It's a floor, though. Right. That's not around to pick, though. That is the floor. And there's been four of those years where he's been top 11 in PPR points per game. Thank you for making that point. So I could add that.

Yeah. Well, I'm sorry. I want to move on here because I think he and Keenan Allen are the old dogs in this group. And, you know, it's going to be a decision. Do you want the guys who were hoping for their best season ever in michael pitman and dj moore and courtland sutton i know nobody's taking sutton there except for me so i won't include him but t higgins aj brown brown has been a top i think seven per game two years ago uh but he has trouble saying how they already

want the guys who do it every single year but they're 29 30 years old and evans and keenan allen so you can make that decision. They're kind of mixed in in the rankings with those guys. Second half of round three, A.J. Brown, Keenan Allen, Ezekiel Elliott. I should mention this. Ezekiel Elliott is probably going to be terrible in week one, just like he was last year.

The Bucs are the best run defense in the world, and we'll see what happens to Zeke, so just keep that in mind. But A.J. Brown, Keenan Allen, Ezekiel Elliott, Josh Jacobs, David Montgomery, and Kyle Pitts. So this is where we're going to stray from ADP, I think, probably quite a bit, Heath. A.J. Brown, Keenan Allen, Ezekiel Elliott, Josh Jacobs, David Montgomery, and Kyle Pitts.

When we still have Higgins, Mike Williams, Michael Pittman, D.J. Moore, et cetera, all in the fourth round, what do you make of this group here at the end of round three? This is where most of people's, a lot of people's first bust comes from. It's either Ezekiel Elliott or Josh Jacobs or David Montgomery, depending on which of those backs that you dislike the most. And I think probably for me both zeke and jacobs fall into that bust range i'm still a pretty big fan of david montgomery in this range i still think he's probably going to get 18 to 20 touches a game um but like the kyle pitts and the aj brown

and the keenan allen that's that's about right for those guys in fact aj brown should maybe go a little bit earlier. Okay. So I think Zeke is the one that none of us would take in round three, right? No. None of us would take Jacobs. Oh, Jacobs, of course. Yes.

Yeah, no. I mean, Jacobs and Akers are really going to jump out at you, I think, in ADP, especially on other sites. I mean, I'm seeing Cam Akers as like a third or early fourth round pick on other sites. He's 48th on CBS. And we'll go right into round four here, 37th overall. I will say Jacobs is pick 51 on Yahoo, which I like a lot more. That's half-peat scoring, and it's a fifth round pick. So maybe you can draft Josh Jacobs on Yahoo.

Okay, round four. And Heath, did we have to call out any other Yahoo or ESPN good or bad values? No other values. Not yet? Okay. Round four is awesome, I think, in terms of wide receiver, right? T. Higgins, Mike Williams, Michael Pittman. Stop me if you disagree. You should not expect to be able to get Michael Pittman in round four

in anything that's a non-PPR. That's not a non-PPR league. Just don't buy that he's a round four pick. It just depends who you're drafting with. We push up his value because we see the greatness in him. Mostly in PPR leagues. But I would not be surprised in a lot of 10-team leagues, what we're talking about here, non-PPR, he's in round four.

Okay, he is round three, the 33rd overall on ESPN, and he is 30th overall on Yahoo, and he is 42nd overall on CBS. I guess what I would say is don't go into your draft planning to get Michael Pittman in the fourth round. He could easily go early third. So it's Higgins, Mike Williams, Michael Pittman, J.K. Dobbins. Too soon, right? Too soon. Unless news changes.

He's in full pads. He's practicing with the team. Gives a big thumbs up. Then he belongs here, if not even... Maybe a shade higher. I'm not far from that in non-PBR. Sure, yeah. And then Jalen Hurts and Tom Brady are the next two picks in the first half of round four.

So, real quick on Dobbins. Both Kenyon Drake and Mike Davis are barely rostered. I don't even think they're 20% rostered. Who would you guys take? You might have a week one starter there. Who would you take, Mike Davis or Kenyon Drake? Drake. Drake, but I don't feel good about it,

and I hope that's not my week one starter. Yeah, if we find out Dobbins is out, I don't know if anybody outside of a 14-team league is starting one of those guys, or at least should be. Hopefully he drafted a better team than that. Well, they're at the Jets in week one. They're seven-point favorites, so I could see it.

It's trying to figure out which one's going to be the better of the two. Is it the guy who might be more talented in Drake, but doesn't know the team? Or is it going to be the guy who they've been leaning on, but obviously has proven to be flawed? It is it going to be the guy who they've been leaning on, but obviously has proven to be flawed. So it's not going to be fun to try and figure out which is the better of the two if there is no Dobbins.

And even with Dobbins, I mean, you know, it's hard to say Dobbins is going to get enough touches that he's going to matter. You know, it could just be, hey, he's ready to go. He's playing 12 snaps. All right, so the first half of round four is Higgins, Mike Williams, Michael Pittman, J.K. Dobbins, Jalen Hurts, Tom Brady. The second half of round four, we get another tight end. We get Brees Hall, then George Kittle, then Cam Akers, Kyler Murray,

DJ Moore, and Travis Etienne. Yeah, obviously DJ Moore would be great there. So it's Brees Hall, George Kittle, Cam Akers, Kyler Murray, DJ Moore, and Travis Etienne. And I would say I only see two players here, Jamie, that I feel like you guys would take if they were available in the second half of round four. And that would be DJ Moore and Travis Etienne. What about Hall, Kittle, Akers, and Kyler?

No more Hall for me there. Not Kittle there. Not Akers there. Kyler? No more Hall for me there. Not Kittle there. Not Akers there. Kyler, obviously, no as a quarterback. So, yeah, I think you're just looking at... I think Travis Etienne belongs in this range, if not a little bit higher in PPR. And DJ Moore for sure.

But it is funny, you know, because, like, I did a 10-team draft. I was telling Heath this. And I had McCaffrey as a keeper and DJ Moore kept falling and falling and falling. And I was like, okay, I don't want to, you know,

trust two Panthers, but he was my third receiver at that point. I was like, it's a no brainer. And this was again, 10 team league. It was the second last pick in round five, you know,

so of, of my longest running league and very smart fantasy players you know for the most part so i was i was surprised why they were so out on dj more now granted taking a lot of running backs because of how the draft went and how the keepers were but it was it was a little surprising they fell that far can i tell you that in the four games last year where mcafree had at least 24 ppr points McCaffrey had at least 24 PPR points, DJ Moore had at least 15 PPR points in three of them? Can I tell you that the quarterback then was usually Sam Darnold?

One time it was Cam. Can I tell you that people are, I think they're straying from DJ Moore because they think that Baker's bad for him. And they're not realizing that Baker's an upgrade and that he's been cooking with Baker. So I think DJ Moore, obviously in this spot, he's great. I don't like where Heath's got him ranked. I think Heath is a little off his rocker with DJ Moore,

but I'm on board with early round three. Yeah, I would still take him in the end of round two, to be honest with you. But I think it's just, it was a little surprising to see him fall that far. Speaking of off my rocker, I recognized yesterday I'd finished my 20th draft. And so that counts. And I have DJ Moore on 11 of those 20 teams.

Should I stop drafting DJ Moore or should I just keep going? No, you are, it's too late now. I wonder if you're going to have more DJ Moore, if I'm going to have more Michael Pittman. That'll be fun. Well, I did also, I mean, I. I wonder if you're going to have more DJ Moore, if I'm going to have more Michael Pittman. That'll be fun. Well, I did also, I mean, I don't know if you care about this, but in the five games that McCaffrey played and didn't leave with an injury, DJ Moore's target share dropped from 28.5% in all the other games to 25%.

He, I don't think he had more than nine targets in any of those games except maybe one. He definitely was targeted less when McCaffrey was playing and did not leave with an injury. It was still a pretty good target share. But that happened. So just throwing that out there. I've only got him at 27%. All right. Well, it wasn't quite that. It was 25% when McCaffrey did not get hurt in the five games that he fully played.

All right, that's it for round four. Draft DJ Moore. Let's take a break. When we come back, round five and beyond, we'll go a little bit faster here to get you a bunch of names that you need to know about. And by the way, real quick before we take the break, Kyler Murray, QB7 behind Hertz and Brady.

Do you like that? Yes. I have him at six on my Brady. Do you like that? Yes. I have met six on my board. So yes, I like it. Yeah. Later. He isn't better.

I know. I'm sorry. I mean, is that appropriately ranked? Do you have Hertz and Brady ahead of Kyler Murray? Hertz? Yes. Brady.

No. It goes Hertz, Murray, Brady for me. Yeah. It's Brady Murray for me. All right. We'll take a break.

When we come back, we'll look at 49 through 60 in ADP and beyond. We'll be right back. Number 49. The draft ends here. Cortland Sutton. All right. That would be terrific if you have an early pick

and you can take Cortland Sutton late in round four, early round five. He never makes it there in our drafts. We would all take him earlier. Darren Waller. Allen Robinson. Another guy that never makes it to 51 in our drafts. We would all take him earlier. Darren Waller, Alan Robinson, another guy that never makes it to 51 in our drafts. Terry McLaurin,

Damian Harris, and Damian Pierce. That ADP keeps on rising. I think yesterday it was about 59. Now it's up to 54, basically. So it's Sutton, Waller, Robinson,

Terry McLaurin, Damian Harris, Damian Pierce. And for sure, you guys are taking Pierce ahead of Harris, right? Oh, yeah. Pierce comes in at pick 85 on ESPN and pick 96 on Yahoo. And I can tell you, I did a Yahoo draft two days ago and got him in round seven. So that's not something that's changing a lot right now. It's like finding gold bull changing a lot right now it's

like finding gold bullion on that's a one quarterback lead um no that was a super flex league a unique super flex league because there were still lots of quarterbacks left at that point the quarterback scoring is kind of nerfed as adam would say i forgot about that ner Nerfed. I don't even remember how that happened. So Sutton, Waller, Allen Robinson, Terry McLaurin, Damian Harris, Damian Pierce. Great value on the wide receivers. With Waller healed with a new agent, do you guys like him in round five?

Yeah. Yes. Would you rather have Waller in round five or Schultz in round six waller waller might be close enough to to be are you talking early round five versus late round six or late round five versus early round six yeah okay fair enough 12 picks let's say they were 12 picks apart who would you rather have i'll take waller all right uh second half of round five jaylen waddle i'm just gonna stop right there is this the right time to take jaylen waddle nope oh yeah round five i'm fine with man that's quite a fall for him still not okay so dave says

yes and heath is kind of there and jamie says no uh jaylen wad, Joe Burrow, Elijah Mitchell, Chris Godwin, DK Metcalf, and AJ Dillon. That's round five, the last six picks. Jalen Waddell, Joe Burrow, Elijah Mitchell, Godwin, Metcalf, and Dillon. Dave, we're definitely taking Dillon over Elijah Mitchell, right? No, I don't think that's a definite at all. I think that that's a close call. I think that's a decision that people are going to have to make. I was reminded this week of how many times multiple running backs finished top 20 on a per game basis in the same year. And it's rare. It doesn't happen that often. So I'm trying to cool it a little bit on A.J. Dillon.

I would take him ahead of Elijah Mitchell. I think it's close. And I agree with this ADP. But I can no longer say that he's worth like a top 50 pick. And I was saying that before. I was referring to him as the gatekeeper to the dead zone. I don't know if he's quite that know if I'm that strong on him anymore. Yeah, I would definitely take him to high.

These are our two best values yet. Chris Godwin picked 93 in Yahoo! Leagues at the end of round eight. Oh, my goodness. And A.J. Dillon picked 97, 8-9 turn in ESPN. Outstanding. Are we feeling better about Elijah Mitchell at this point to make him a round five pick? I'll say yes.

Better yet, better than no way. I've got him in the very beginning of round six. So I'm comfortable taking him, promising myself that I'll take Jeff Wilson with my last pick. I've got him at the 5-6 turn in non-PPR, the 6-7 turn in full PPR. Okay. And this is a mix of everything.

So who are some running backs that are going after Elijah Mitchell, Jamie, that you would take ahead of him, since you're not comfortable with him in round five? Based on ADP? Yeah. Well, it's like the next one. Why don list well we got clyde we've got uh schultz single i'm not sorry clyde edmonds singletary miles sanders antonio gibson tony pollard rashad penny who would you take if you are i would take edmonds over him, I would take Edmonds over him, and I would take Gibson over him. Okay.

I would definitely take Edmonds and Gibson as well. Go to round six, then. Starts with Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers. Oof. Yeah, going ahead of Russell Wilson. We don't like that. Rodgers, Gabriel Davis, Brandon Cooks.

Pete, who are you taking, Gabriel Davis or Brandon Cooks? I only have them like 25 spots apart in my range. So it's very close. I have to flip a coin usually when it comes to that. But I will take Brandon Cooks and everybody will say, Brandon Cooks doesn't have near as much upside as Gabe Davis. He certainly does.

He's finished, he's top 20 basically every year. Has never finished higher than 12th per game in full PPR, but he's finished around there many times. Last year, though, where was Brandon Cooks last year? I don't think he was. 24th. Oh, okay. I was going to say, I don't think he was 20th.

24th last year, 17th the year before that, 71st in 2019, and then 21st in 2018. Okay, so it's Rogers, Gabriel Davis, Brandon Cooks, Clyde Edwards-Hilaire, Marquise Brown, and Deontay Johnson. What a fall for Deontay Johnson.

Yeah, his value hasn't recovered yet. That's a steal. I think he's a 3-4 pick in full PPR. I will say he was rising before the shoulder injury, and so the draft this week has sort of dropped him a little bit. Great. I think this is another one that's Dave's fault.

Dave called him a bust for like two months this summer, and everybody stopped drafting him. Blame me. Blame Canada. Just go ahead and read our analysis in May, and then never look at fantasy football again. Go ahead. That strategy will work out great.

No, he's looked good when he's played. He got hurt in the preseason game. But Tomlin indicated that if it were a real game, he'd go back in. So I don't think the shoulder is a real serious thing. The offensive line sucks. Quarterbacks have managed around it so far. I'm optimistic that his efficiency won't be as bad as it was with Roethlisberger the last year and a half. I think what you're going to see in average draft position coming up,

and I know I'm a bit of a broken record about this stuff, is wide receiver value. That's just really terrific. I guess my question for you is, should fantasy managers think that this is legit, that they can really get Deontay Johnson and Mount Six? And the reason why I'm asking this, because I know Heath what you're going to say,

is we should pay attention to ADP, but this is a mix of all formats. So let's say you're in PPR, and do you think you're getting Gabriel Davis, Brandon Cooks, Marquise Brown, Deontay Johnson, also Adam Thielen, Michael Thomas, Jerry Judy, all in round six? No. Yeah, go ahead. Definitely not all in round six. And you look at the variety of different sites, you'll see Deontay Johnson in round four some places.

You'll see Brandon Cooks in round four some places. You'll see Jerry Judy in round five some places. I think you can feel pretty confident that one of these wide receivers in most PPR leagues that's done not with fantasy analysts will be there in round six. Maybe even two or three you'll get the choice of. But I would not think all of these wide receivers are going to be there. I would say that will almost never happen. And I'll tell you, I'm looking at Yahoo and ESPN ADP as well.

And I think that based on all of the average draft position, you should feel very comfortable that there is going to be a wide receiver that you love in round six, because on ESPN, it's Mooney, Godwin, Juju, Alan Robinson, Adam Thielen, Michael Thomas is in round seven. So Hunter Renfro is there as well if you like him on Yahoo it's it's Juju Jerry Judy, Gabriel Davis Brandon Cooks, Amonra St. Brown

they're all in round 6 Michael Thomas is round 7 so Adam Thielen is round 7 Marquise Brown is almost round 8 so Rashad Batielen is round seven. Marquise Brown is almost round eight. So Rashad Bateman is round eight. So I'm going to say round six, round seven, you're probably going to have wide receivers that,

if you just look at our mock drafts, when it's just the CBS crew doing it, they never really make it that far. Maybe one or two stragglers. But that's where I'm usually taking, like, Alan Lazard and Christian Kirk. But in a league that's, you know, that's where I'm usually taking like Alan Lazard and Christian Kirk. But in a league that's more common, it could be a much better wide receiver than that. It could be Gabriel Davis, Michael Thomas, Jerry Judy, guys that we have ranked higher. So in other words, long spiel there, round six, round seven, maybe even round eight,

wide receiver value is going to be very good, and you should probably feel comfortable with that. And these are all 12-team leagues, by the way, if I haven't made that clear, the rounds that I'm using. All right, round seven. Let's go to round seven, which would be pick 73 to 84. And we've got – oh, I'm sorry. I never read the end of round six. The last six picks of round six are Dalton Schultz, Adam Thielen, Michael Thomas, Russell Wilson, Jerry Judy, and Matthew Stafford.

There's another receiver value. Two, actually. Thomas, going at the end of round six, I think he's worth a round four pick. Looks like he'll be ready to go to start the season. Judy is around too late here. This is the end of round six. He should be closer to the end of round five. Has Michael Thomas practiced this week?

No, he hasn't practiced in maybe a couple weeks, but it appears he's on track to play. That's the part I'm struggling with. Why do we think that if he's unable to practice? I saw a report

when I drafted him yesterday in our Superflex League. The latest update on him is that he's expected to be ready for week one. So they think he's going to practice next week? That's the athletic report you're talking about from like a week ago, right? Yes. No, this is a tweet from Jeff Duncan yesterday. Hearing positive news on the Michael Thomas front for the Saints. We'll be surprised if he's not in the starting lineup versus the Falcons in week one. Thomas has been sidelined by a hamstring injury. We're seeing a lot of

players with hamstring injuries not practice, and I think the whole idea is to just let it rest. They know what they're doing, and they'll all be full gopher. I would like really very much like a list of those guys and for us to see how they do the first month of the season. Okay. Well, Thomas is on that list. Jalen Waddell, I believe is a hamstring for him. But Heath, even if you still

think it's a good discount though, right? Into round six for Michael Thomas? What I'm trying to decide today and I updated my rankings last night and pretty much every night now, but I'm really struggling with the Michael Thomas-Jalen Waddell combo

that I have in the mid-20s at wide receiver in round five and the guys I have right behind them, which includes Adam Thielen. I'm actually... And Jerry Judy and DK Metcalf, and Marquise Brown. I kind of want to move those guys ahead of these guys that are not currently healthy

enough to practice a week before their first game. Okay, well look, I think it's pretty defensible and a lot of people are doing it based on ADP. Let's go on to round seven. Round seven is Devin Singletary, Dallas Goddard, Dak Prescott. Jamie, I think you call this your favorite pick in the draft, actually.

The Bills DST in round seven. I've never been happier. Cordaro Patterson and Miles Sanders. This is a straight-up barf group of six. Not all of them. I mean, Goddard's good. But Singletary, Goddard, Prescott, Bills, Cordaro Patterson, and Miles Sanders. Overall, pretty barfy.

Jamie, what's your take? Who's a good value here? What do you say to this again? Singletary, Goddard, Prescott, Bills, DST, Cordaro Patterson, Miles Sanders. Goddard is a good value there. I mean, you know, Sanders is not horrible. You know, just when you start to look at the running back value that's kind of we're saying you're single-tier you know

both those guys are are okay um but you just kind of know what you're getting you know you're potentially getting a lot of empty carries if if they're not going to be you know giving the the the goal line opportunities that we love and and the receptions that we love you know it just could be trap backs and and that's ugly. But Goddard, I think, he's top five upside at tight end. The next part of this round, though, has got some ridiculous value.

Yeah, let's do it. The last half of round seven, picks 79 through 84, are Juju Smith-Schuster, Antonio Gibson, Alan Lazard, Tony Pollard, Rashad Penny, and Rashad Bateman. Gibson's going to jump 20 spots by Monday.

He's still got a down arrow next to him. I don't know what to make of that. Juju, Gibson, Lazard, Pollard, Penny, Bateman, all in the second half of round seven. Is there any bad value there? No. I mean, I'll tell you, Is there any bad value there? No. I mean, I'll tell you, Gibson's a bad value. But I feel like I'm nitpicking it if I'm saying that it's a bad

value at the end of round seven. I do like other players better. I think I have every player besides Dallas Goddard in the first half ranked lower than we're being drafted. And every player in the second half of this round ranked higher than we're being drafted and every player in the second half of this round ranked higher than where they're being drafted. Yeah.

Okay. So the, and I think round eight is going to be kind of similar, you know, good values here. Round eight is Kareem hunt, chase Edmonds, Dawson knocks.

That's too early for us. And he's moving way up. He's up 12 spots. Hunt Edmonds, Knox, Darnell Mooney, Devontae Smith, and TJ Hawkinson. That's the first six picks. One more time. Kareem Hunt, Chase Edmonds, Dawson Knox, Darnell Mooney, Devontae Smith, TJ Hawkinson. Dave, what do you like this range?

What a steal. If you're getting Darnell Mooney at basically 90th overall, I think he's worth it around 60th overall. I think he's still going to have a very nice target share in Chicago. Encouraged by how Justin Fields threw in the last preseason game. Should be the number one guy there. Is Edmonds in this group? Yep. Yeah, he should be higher too, especially in full PPR.

He's got a chance at a career year. I've talked about this. Jamie's talked about it even more. I mean, I think he can get to 1,000 total yards and six touchdowns, and I think he can get 60 catches on top of it. I wonder if Jamie and Heath are even more bullish on Edmonds than that. But I'm good taking Chase Edmonds at least 20 spots higher

than where he is in this ADP. I think the thing for Edmonds, I agree on the reception total in that range. I don't know if we'll get quite there. What was the range? I said 60. His career high, I think, is 53. Okay, Jamie, what were you saying?

And I do think the total yards is within range if mostert is healthy if mostert is hurt and misses time then i think he could be maybe north of 1200 total yards you know because of what he should be able to do carrying the ball you know that my biggest concern with edmunds is how much is most are just going to take you know the the first and second down work for the majority of the time that he's healthy. Now Mostert's 29 and, excuse me, he's 30 and hasn't been healthy ever. So that's the gamble you're taking with him. A couple of values from the last couple of slides.

Chase Edmonds has actually picked 98 in round nine on ESPN. And at pick 106 on Yahoo, we have Alan Lazard. Oh, all right. Okay, so I guess I got to be in more Yahoo drafts. You said Yahoo, right? Have any of you drafted on Yahoo yet?

I am on Saturday. So I had my first draft on Yahoo on Tuesday. And I got three of the guys that we've already talked about. I took Godwin, I took Thomas and I took Lazard. And this is a super flex league where my first four picks were not receiver. So I started with Kyler Murray, Travis Kelsey, Aaron Jones, and Justin Fields, kind of knowing that I could see those guys maybe a little bit later,

not maybe all three of them. But my top four receivers are, I went Marquise Brown first, then Godwin, then Thomas, then Alan Lazard. And I feel really good. And Damian Pierce is my second running back. I feel really good about that roster. I drafted a similar team yesterday in our Superflex League with Michael Thomas and Chris Godwin as my top two receivers.

I don't have Marquise Brown there. This was on CBS, obviously, with all of you. But do you worry about that combo? Then I drafted J.K. Dobbins. How much risk is too much risk? Just Thomas and Godwin. We love their individual values, but what about both of them? Yeah,

no, I, I, again, it's, you know, are you drafting for week one and week two? Are you drafting for the season?

You know, and I think that's kind of how you have to approach when you take some of these guys, when you draft, you know, Reese Hall, when you draft, um,

you know, AJ Dillon, you know, anybody that, that has a potential hiccup to start the season until you kind of see it unfold. I got a question on a radio show this morning. Week one, who would you rather start?

A.J. Dillon, J.K. Dobbins, Adam Thielen, or Alan Lazard? And I said the two receivers. It just feels like those two are just much safer right now than the two running backs, knowing what they're dealing with. And so I think it's just a matter of how you approach it. I may struggle week one because Thomas and Godwin aren't a hundred percent or even playing, but I know that if they're right, and I'm trying to win the league, I'm not trying to finish second or third.

If they're right, those are two top 10 caliber receivers, along with the quarterbacks. I have the number one tight end and a group of running backs. I feel pretty comfortable. So we'll see. I'm going to finish up here. Round eight. We did cream huntem Hunt, Chase

Edmonds, Dawson Knox, Mooney, Devante Smith and TJ Hawkinson. How about Melvin Gordon, Derek Carr, Amari Cooper, Amandra St. Brown, much lower than I expected, Zach Ertz and Ramondre Stevenson. So it's Melvin Gordon, Derek Carr, Amari Cooper, Amandra St. Brown, Zach Ertz, and Ramondre Stevenson. Stevenson going several rounds after Damian Harris. Damian Harris was round five. Stevenson is the last pick of round eight. So Heath, any thoughts on Gordon, Carr, Cooper, St. Brown, Ertz, Stevenson? I like most of these values except for the quarterback and the tight end. This is not later or a lot later than I would take Melvin, but I'm happy to take Melvin Gordon in this range,

and I end up drafting him a lot because he goes even later than this. I don't think there should be any separation really between Damian Harris and Romandre Stevenson. I hope this Hawkinson ADP, by the way, I know he was in the last group, but I'm just looking on ESPN and Yahoo, and he's a top 70 pick. Whereas Hawkinson is 90th on CBS. I've seen him fall past 100th. And I've taken him when I

already had a tight end. Couldn't resist. Alright, let's go to round nine. It is Cousins, Lance, Justin Tucker, Elijah Moore, DeAndre Hopkins, and the 49ers. You know what? Instead of going round by round here, I don't think we should necessarily focus on the quarterbacks.

You all know at this point how we feel about Trey Lance. Yeah, this is the spot for him. Yeah, but if you're aggressive on Trey Lance, then you need to draft another guy. And you might even go earlier than this. I had always gone earlier than this on Lance to ensure that I got him. And then I would follow up with Cousins or something, or with Carr, or with Stafford. But we have Elijah Moore, 100th. DeAndre Hopkins.

Christian Kirk is still here. Hunter Renfro. Brandon Ayuk. Could these guys be, obviously not Hopkins, but could these guys be your number three wide receiver? We'll start with St. Brown at 95th, and then Elijah Moore, Christian Kirk, Hunter Renfro, Brandon Ayuk. Are these number three receivers, Dave? Scoring matters, but yeah, they absolutely can be. I Kirk is criminally low here.

104th overall. I've got them closer to 75. I think that's in full PPR. I think he's going to get a lot of targets and a lot of catches in Jacksonville. They didn't give him so much money that it reshaped the wide receiver landscape for contracts in the NFL to just throw to him four times a game. They love his speed. They're probably going to

be passing quite a bit in Jacksonville. We've been talking about that too. Heath, I think I'm just going to give you some names that are not quarterbacks, kickers and DSTs that are coming off the board. You got Gasicki, 108th overall. Too early, right?

Yeah, no. Gross. Ken Walker, though. Ken Walker, James Robinson, James Cook, Brian Robinson. Not a bad group after pick 100. Ken Walker, James Robinson, James Cook, Brian Robinson. Yeah, I think the only one I have ranked in my top 100 is James Robinson,

and he's at 98th. But there's plenty of upside in this group. This is the point where you look at your running backs and you like your starters, and so you're just looking for upside to put on the bench that you hope could pan out at some point in the season. Or you just skew from ADP and take a guy that should be in this range, and that's Naeem Hines.

Mm-hmm. Yep. And then we've got George Pickens and Drake London. So we've got some rookie wide. We haven't had a rookie wide receiver yet, have we? No. All right. So how many rookie wide receivers are you guys taking in the top 100?

None of them are going in the top 115 in CBS Sports ADP. London and Pickens are the first ones off the board just inside the top 120. Jamie of them are going in the top 115 in CBS Sports ADP. London and Pickens are the first ones off the board just inside the top 120. Jamie, how many... London is such a steal. My God. What about... Do you like him better than Pickens still? Yes. So it's funny. You asked how many in the top 100. I have London at pick 81. Don't usually take him until round eight. But then pick 100, I have Dotson. 101, I have Pickens. 103, I have Burks. 104, I have Wilson.

109, I have Tolbert. That round 9, round 10 range is where I love all the rookie wide receivers. Okay. Alright, so get some. And then Dave, I don't know, we can just finish off. Any more great values? Tyler Algier, Kenneth Gainwell,

Daryl Henderson, Traylon Burks way down there. Michael Carter, all the handcuffs. But there's some pretty solid. Where's Khalil Herbert? Late. 150.

Jameer White's a steal. Yeah. White's a steal. Both White's. Jameer and's a steal. Yeah. Yeah. White's a steal. Both White's, Jameer and Rashad. Khalil Herbert is one of my favorites. You said Darryl Henderson, right? I said Darryl Henderson, yeah.

Yep. There's also Kadarius Toney, Michael Gallup, Marquez Valdez-Scantling, Julio Jones, Chase Claypool. One of my favorite guys has no ADP data. Who's that? Josh Palmer. Josh Palmer, yeah. He goes mega late. You know what?

Just refer to the sleepers stories. Isaiah Pacheco is also in here. Would you guys rather have Isaiah Pacheco or Daryl Henderson? Henderson. Pacheco or Alexander Madison? Madison. Madison. It or Alexander Madison? Madison. Madison. It's still Madison, yeah.

Pacheco or Tyler? I would take Demir White over Madison, though. I'd take Mostert over Pacheco. All right. How do you guys feel about Tyler Algier and some of the names we just mentioned? Same mix. Be patient.

Good value. Be patient. Yeah, the thing that I really like more about Algier, I've got him ahead of most of these guys, is that I do think he has the clearest path to just take 15 touches a game without an injury. All right. That will do it for our ADP review.

Good luck, everybody. We do have some more draft tips for you on the Saturday episode that's already been recorded. Plus a lot of your emails, Fantasy Cops, fun show that I did with Dan, talk some TV. We were asked for our top two football movies, so you'll get that.

That's it. On Monday, we have a normal show. Enjoy Labor Day. I hope I can catch up on House of the Dragon. That's my big goal. Go kick some ass in your fantasy football. Enjoy Labor Day. I hope I can catch up on House of the Dragon. That's my big goal. Go kick some ass in your face. Still only one. You're all caught up? You got both of them? Yes, I'm caught up on the two.

On the two. Good for you. I'm going to binge watch one episode tonight and then one more on Sunday, hopefully. What did you think of the, I won't say what it was, but the scene in episode one? the scene in, in season one, in episode one,

the scene in episode one, gut wrenching. You had to turn your head scene. I swear. I swear. Okay. I don't even, I don't even remember.

Um, all right. We'll be, we'll be back on Monday, everybody. Uh, sorry. Mailbag on Saturday.

Then we'll be back on Monday. Have a great weekend. Sorry. Mailbag on Saturday. Then we'll be back on Monday. Have a great weekend. Bye.