Fantasy Football Today - Cooper News, NFL Combine Reactions, Mystery Player Draft! (03/07 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 7, 2022

We've got a lot of big news to cover (2:55) including Amari Cooper's potential exit from the Cowboys. What does this mean for Dak Prescott, CeeDee Lamb and the rest of the Cowboys passing game? We als...o discuss Aaron Rodgers, Mike Williams (8:00) and George Kittle ... Jamey spoke to many coaches and executives at the NFL Combine. Find out what he learned about the 49ers backfield (14:30), the Bills backfield (22:30) and Gabriel Davis (27:45). How much sharing do we think Elijah Mitchell will be doing in 2022? How much faith do the Bills have in Devin Singletary? ... Jamey gives his thoughts on the incoming rookies (35:00) including the RB who almost broke Jamey's hand. Then we try a Mystery Player Draft (47:30)! Dave and Jamey draft anonymous players based on their statistical profiles. Let's see how their squads turn out! ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. Tell you what, that was a spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play. Off to the races.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Fun show for you today. We've got a mystery player draft. What is that? I'm not really sure. It's a new segment we're trying.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Low expectations. But we've got, the good thing is, plenty of big-time news to talk about to give you some mega fantasy advice. What does this mean for the Cowboys with Amari Cooper unlikely to come back? Aaron Rodgers is going to make a decision maybe today, maybe tomorrow. Fingers crossed. We'll have some breaking news about that. Jamie's back. Dave is here. Dave's not going
Starting point is 00:01:56 anywhere. We put the franchise tag on you, Dave. Congratulations. Back for another year. All right. 15 million guaranteed, right? You want the quarterback tag? Yeah. I'll settle for 15 million guaranteed, right? You want the quarterback tag? Yeah. You get the title for 15 million. You get the average of the top five fantasy analysts in the industry.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I'll take whatever. Franchise tag is an honor. I also, Adam, you didn't get the memo that today is NCAA Final Four Windbreaker Day. Yeah, man. You forgot your free gear. It's Windbreaker Day? Well, I mean, forgot your free gear. It's the Windbreaker Day? Well, I mean, take a look at us. We all got it in the mail.
Starting point is 00:02:29 No, I got it. I'm just not wearing it. Go put it on. Come on. Go put it on. I don't know if people know what's happening in March. It's a college basketball tournament. It's a thing. Hopefully baseball, too. Hopefully.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Hopefully American League baseball. Let's a thing. Hopefully baseball, too. Hopefully. Hopefully American League baseball. Yeah, let's get that pitch clock. I'm going to wear a different team hat in protest every day. Yesterday was the Mets for F-15-5. Today's the Red Sox. So you just have these from Little League, or you're a hat guy? Oh, yeah, just from Little League. I need to eat a slice of pizza every day
Starting point is 00:02:59 in protest. JB's back from the Combine, and he's going to give us some of the key takeaways from the combine. And we've got, let's start with the Amari Cooper news and later we're going to do the mystery draft. And what we're going to do with the mystery draft is I'm going to give
Starting point is 00:03:12 Dave, Dave and Jamie, three players, three mystery players at quarterback, running back and wide receiver. I decided not to do it for tight end because I was having enough trouble making it interesting for the first three positions. And you're going to,
Starting point is 00:03:24 based on their statistical profile, you're going to decide who you want and we'll see who has a better team at the end of the draft what if i know all the players already though i don't think you will i think you'll be i i called your son i bribed him yeah and he sent me uh the players oh yeah right he does what'd you bribe him with uh cookies good yeah that'll work that'll do it so me too let's start with the cooper news so the cowboys unlikely are they likely to release amari cooper and save a ton of money in cap space and they need to do that so dave what is your thought on this you know winners losers give me your 30 second overview of what you think this means with Amari Cooper unlikely to be back, and Michael Gallup reportedly, they're trying to bring him back.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I think there are a lot of winners in this, believe it or not. I think that CeeDee Lamb's going to be a big winner because now his path to being the number one target getter in Dallas is pretty much wide open. I think it'll be big for the other pass catchers in Dallas, whether it's Dalton Schultz if he's back,
Starting point is 00:04:24 Gallup if he's healthy, Sed Wilson if he's back, whoever they bring in, I think it's big for the other pass catchers in Dallas, whether it's Dalton Schultz, if he's back Gallup, if he's healthy said Wilson, if he's back, whoever they bring in, I think it's big for them. I think it's big for Cooper. He's got a chance now to be the number one target on a new team. It'll help the quarterback that's throwing to Amari Cooper. And I think the only loser could be Dak Prescott, who will still be a popular top eight-ish fantasy quarterback. But without having Amari Cooper on the field,
Starting point is 00:04:47 we know how good those two work together. I do think it's a step back for him. And Jamie, same question to you. Kind of a 30-second overview of what you think it means if Cooper out and Gallup back for the Cowboys. Yeah, I agree with a lot of what Dave said. I don't know if Dak will necessarily lose so much because I think we haven't really seen Dak in a scenario where C.D. Lamb doesn't have Cooper
Starting point is 00:05:07 and then Gallup, you know, stepping into that role as number two guy with Dalton Schultz. So I think the weapons, you know, take a slight downgrade, but I think Dak can make up for it certainly with what those other guys will do. And we don't know what they're going to do to address Cooper's absence, you know, certainly in the NFL draft of a very, very deep receiving core. So, you know, they surprised us, you know, two or three seasons ago at this point, when they drafted C.D. Lamb in the first round, I wouldn't be surprised if they get aggressive with that position in the draft at some point, doesn't
Starting point is 00:05:30 necessarily mean day one, uh, but it's going to be again, a deep draft so they can address it that way. They could also go cheap and free agency, you know, getting creative once they get their cap situation under control and maybe bring in somebody of a second or third tier caliber guy that can also help this receiving core of the whole. So Dalton Schultz is the key. If they lose Schultz and Cooper, then that's a big loss for Prescott. But I think if they move on from Cooper, it's because they plan to keep Schultz in some way,
Starting point is 00:05:52 shape or form could be with the franchise tag could be with a long-term deal. We'll find out that answer though, probably Tuesday by four o'clock, if they're going to give the franchise tag to Dalton Schultz. Yeah. That's deadline for franchise tags. We have one so far,
Starting point is 00:06:04 one announced Orlando Brown left tackle for the chiefs. We have one so far, one announced. Orlando Brown left tackle for the Chiefs. We'll get more franchise tag information in the next day. So we have said this a lot. Based on last year's stats and splits, we want CeeDee Lamb on the outside. So, yeah, this is good. When it was Gallup, Cooper, Lamb, he was playing a lot in the slot. We don't want that.
Starting point is 00:06:25 He's been more productive on the outside. Does this get CeeDee Lamb in the top 12? 100%. He's real close. He moved up. Just on this news, I moved him up. I think I have him 13th. And I'm okay with him. He can line up wherever he wants.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I don't want him exclusively in the slot. But he can line up 60 you know, 60% wide, 40% in the slot. I'll still be happy. I want him to keep getting fed, give him eight and a half targets per game. We've seen that from him before. Let's see that again. Would you rather have CD lamb or Jerry Judy?
Starting point is 00:06:59 If Aaron Rogers goes to the Broncos, I don't think Jerry Judy is staying in Denver. If Aaron Rogers goes to the Broncos, I don't think Jerry duty is staying in Denver. If Aaron Rodgers goes to the Broncos. Okay, fine. So Corley Adams coming with him. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:07:11 So then that'd be Adams. Thanks there. All right. If it's just Rogers for picks, I'd rather have ceiling. Does this mean anything to you guys? A reliable source on Twitter called vital Vegas. As, as posted that Devontae Adams
Starting point is 00:07:27 is buying a $12 million mansion in Vegas. I don't know if he's doing that just to go Airbnb or something like that, but usually when you buy a big house like that, maybe you plan on living in it. I wonder if that means something. That would be crazy. They've got a franchise tag him in Green Bay.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And if Aaron's staying I imagine Devante staying but the Vital Vegas guys are usually on top of their Vegas news and that's something that they've posted lately well speaking of it's out of his control so we'll see if by tomorrow well buying a house
Starting point is 00:07:59 is never out of your control you can always do it as long as it's done responsibly and well all right well first of all so he's buying a house in Vegas but those were not the four out of your control. You can always do it as long as it's done responsibly. Can I just say, first of all, he's buying a house in Vegas, but those were not the four destinations that Aaron Rodgers was reporting. Maybe he just likes Vegas. It's entirely possible. Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Denver, Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Those are the four that Aaron Rodgers is reportedly down to. Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Denver, Tennessee. Your favorite, Jamie, from those four, you'd like to see Rogers where? Green Bay or Denver. Why not Pittsburgh? It could really do some lines so bad.
Starting point is 00:08:33 It wouldn't be bad, but you asked me for my favorite. So those two are my favorites. Okay. That makes sense. Seattle turned down multiple first round picks from Washington for Russell Wilson. Okay. And the Washington from what I heard is a combine. Seattle turned down multiple first-round picks from Washington for Russell Wilson. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And the – Well, Washington, from what I heard at the Combine, they're going to be extremely aggressive. Whether they succeed remains to be seen. But I think every quarterback that is potentially available that you've heard of that could be on the market, they are going to kick the tires on. So they are doing their due diligence to try and fix that position. So we'll see what they end up doing.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Okay. The Chargers are reportedly going to put the franchise tag on Mike Williams, who in his last 11 games was, I guess, not as bad as I thought, on pace for 70 catches, 1,043 yards and five touchdowns in 17 games. I mean, that's really not that good. 61.4 yards per game and five touchdowns per 17 games. That was his last 11 games. His first five games on the other hand were spectacular. He had 82 or more yards in four of those five games and he had six touchdowns. So it looks like he'll be back with the chargers. Dave, what's your reaction here to that news i guess it's fine i i'm worried about how they use him
Starting point is 00:09:52 you talked earlier about how you don't want cd lamb in a certain role in dallas i don't want mike williams to be just a downfield threat for the chargers i want him to get involved in short and intermediate targets as well and he's got to be better in targets as well. And he's got to be better inside the 10. He's got to be better when he gets targeted in the end zone. Can't bobble passes, can't lose those contested catches. Got off to a hot start, and then after that, it was four games with 20-plus PPR fantasy points in the first five weeks, and then 15-plus four times the rest of the season,
Starting point is 00:10:24 including 26 and week 18 we need a little more consistency out of him and he's never really delivered it if he stays in la honestly i don't think it matters where he goes i don't see myself being excited to draft mike williams this year so we had uh we had brandon staley on on show with us um and i asked him specifically about mike williams you know more so you know, if he leaves and what you would do to replace him. Um, one of the greatest sales pitches I've ever heard, you know, about keeping a guy I said, as soon as he was done talking, I said, all right, guys, uh, clip that and send it right to Mike Williams agent,
Starting point is 00:10:55 because he's going to want to hear every word that, that Brandon just said. Um, he, he was just talking about how, you know, any, any kind of carry this over to a later question about Justin Herbert, about how these guys having consistency in their career for the first time, you know, obviously Herbert's young, but Williams as well, of the same system, same coaches, you know, giving them, you know, the direction that they hope to build off of. So it does sound like they're going to keep Mike Williams. I was actually hoping to see him, you know, leave more so for Josh Palmer because I'm very excited about him.
Starting point is 00:11:24 But he was also, you know, leave more so for Josh Palmer because I'm very excited about him. But he was also excited about Palmer as well. But I think when you look at Williams, it's more about what can he do, you know, taking it the next step. And they did try in the beginning of the season, you know, to make him kind of a big slot receiver, you know, in Lombardi's offense. You know, obviously, he's not going to play there exclusively because of what Keenan Allen does. But they were trying to move him around a little bit more than we've seen in his career. And so I probably, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:47 they got away from that. It would be my guess. Certainly as, as some of the other guys developed as well. Um, but I, I think Williams is going to kind of fall into that number three receiver that you draft with the chance that he kind of is in a rotation with some
Starting point is 00:11:59 other guys in your fantasy team. This is top 15 wide receiver last year, but obviously it was front loaded. As we've mentioned, would you rather have Mike Williams or Devante Smith? Smith. Uh, if things stay the same in Philadelphia,
Starting point is 00:12:14 I'd rather have Mike Williams. We'd rather have Mike Williams or. Uh, uh, Brandon, Iuke, uh, William. I have William sire. Brandon Ayuk William I have William Sire
Starting point is 00:12:29 Amari Cooper goes to the Patriots Williams or Cooper Wow Cooper I'll take Cooper I still think he can be like a low end number two receiver with the Patriots Alright more news I still think he can be like a low end number two receiver with the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:12:47 All right. More news. Last big item here. Then we'll fire through some of the combine notes. We do have more news later in the show that we'll just read through and keep you updated on. But George Kittle, I thought this was pretty interesting. According to the athletic,
Starting point is 00:12:59 he was never fully recovered from his calf injury. When he returned, he missed some games earlier in the year. He played 10 games after that and was solid, but inconsistent, especially at the very end of the season. But his, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:12 his last 10 games, he was on pace for 88 catches, 1,161 yards, 10 touchdowns in 17 games. That's pretty good. I mean, the touchdowns are good. You probably expect more yards from him per 17 games.
Starting point is 00:13:27 But his last three games of the season, George Kittle did not have more than 29 yards. He had no touchdowns. Then he wasn't really great in the postseason either. It's like, oh, well, okay, he was hurt. But he's always hurt. That's the big issue with George Kittle. So with that said said let me promote something
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Starting point is 00:14:17 listen to Attacking Third's Title IX Tuesdays on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever else podcasts are found. All right, what'd you think of the combine, Jamie? What were some of the big items that we talked about a couple on? Well, actually, we talked about the Dallas News, but also the 49ers backfield. I know you wanted to talk about the Bills backfield. Let's start with the 49ers backfield and what you heard from John Lynch, who I really just probably would have taken the announcer role for Amazon if I were him.
Starting point is 00:14:48 But, hey, I guess he loves being in football. So what'd you hear from him? What'd you think about what he said about his backfield? Yeah, you know, it's as I told you yesterday when we were doing F15-5, you know, when I get in these situations, you know, combine now for the third time in their owners meetings, you know, any just, you know, players I usually speak to, you know, especially as a fantasy analyst. And I think we're all guilty of this confirmation bias, you know, so if you're leaning one way and somebody says something kind of pushes you that way. And then it's trying to, you know, just read between some of the BS from what coaches and GM say. And I have to say that this was one of the more, we actually talked about this as, you know, different media people.
Starting point is 00:15:29 There was a lot of honesty, rare honesty coming from a lot of coaches and GMs, the Carson Wentz situation in particular. I've never heard a GM and a coach speak about a player that they have under contract and about wanting to get rid of him, especially at that position. But in any event, John Lynch was asked about his running backs, and I've said this to you a couple times, Adam, just in our personal conversations,
Starting point is 00:15:50 but he called Elijah Mitchell Drano. He said, because whenever you need someone to fill the gap, he filled it for us. So it was an interesting nickname that they have for him. That's not what he said. I thought it was the finds the gap. Finds the gap. Yeah, I get the exact quote for you. Yeah thought it was the finds the finds again. I'll get the exact quote for you.
Starting point is 00:16:10 He was talking about just the backfield depth that they have and how he really likes Trey Sermon from what it seems. I guess it could be a situation was it more like what happened with Brandon Ayuk last year, where he had kind of fallen in the doghouse?
Starting point is 00:16:28 It happened with Trey Sermon early in camp, and he wasn't able to work his way out of it. Was Elijah Mitchell just that good? Obviously, we were hoping for a little bit more from Trey Sermon with the six games that Elijah Mitchell missed. But he seems to be pretty set with that rotation. Now, if you look at it, they haven't had the same leading rusher for five years in a row in the five years that Kyle Shannon has been the head coach there.
Starting point is 00:16:47 It was Carlos Hyde, Matt Breida, Tim Coleman, Raheem Mostert, Jeff Wilson, and then Elijah Mitchell in some order. I probably got that wrong. But what he said was he said, Elijah, we call him a drain because he always finds the right guy. It's kind of like putting the drain down the drain and it just finds it. So he said, that's what we call him because of his natural running stinks. But then when he was talking about Trey sermon, he said,
Starting point is 00:17:10 Trey, someone really excited about as we are with Elijah and we like our depth in that room. And it's not bad to be able to turn to Debo when you need a player to from him as well. So it's a matter of looking at sermon, probably getting a little bit more work, looking at what Elijah Mitchell did,
Starting point is 00:17:24 certainly not involved in the passing game, 18 catches on 20 targets last year, factoring in Trey Lance and what he's going to do as a rusher at that position, which they haven't had before. And then Debo Samuel, can you really trust Elijah Mitchell to be a starting running back for your fantasy team next year, week in, week out, especially when you factor in, you also miss six games.
Starting point is 00:17:40 So I think it's going to be a little tough. You know, I think in non PPR, you get away with it in PPR, probably more of a flex play. I thought you were going to say that if Elijah Mitchell is Drano, then Trey Sermon is what clogs the toilet. That's what I was trying to make that joke. You know, I think, I think Sermon is going to end up being a great second half of the draft pick,
Starting point is 00:18:03 just a dart throw that you carry for the first month of the year, assuming that there isn't bad news out of training camp or assuming that they don't add too much at running back this offseason. I think, remember, this is a guy who studied Kyle Shanahan to learn his new offense when he went to Ohio State, and then he gets drafted there. I think he was starting to roll just a little bit when he got concussed and i think that just kind of that combined with elijah mitchell having the
Starting point is 00:18:30 the drano rookie season i guess just kind of pushed him into the the background in san francisco i think he's got a shot i think he definitely has a chance if he stays in san francisco to take a significant amount of work away from Elijah Mitchell. Well, we got to see what they do with the two free agents and what they do to bring somebody back. Because Kyle Shanahan, I remember the last combine when it was, I think it was Coleman, Mostert, Wilson, and there was a fourth guy. I forget who it was. And he was like, we like having four. You know, we just like having that depth.
Starting point is 00:19:06 And so they're not going in with those two guys in hasty as their top three, unless they're going to make Debo more of a full-time running back. And so if that's the case, then his value changes. But I think they're going to still add somebody else. And again, we were surprised when they drafted two last year. You know, it wasn't something that we were expecting them to do. You know, Sermon in the third round, Mitchell in the fifth round. So like, you know, we said about the Cowboys, they're not afraid to add to what is a strength of theirs.
Starting point is 00:19:25 And that's something that they might do again. And you can't just assume that they're going to just kick most or to the curb. Kyle Shanahan loves that guy. Yeah. And I think each of the last two seasons, I want to, I, in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:19:40 they went into the season trying to feature Raheem Mostert, you know, in 2020, he had a big week one, then they had a huge blowout win in week two, but he was definitely the clear-cut starter. And then it's hard to say that he barely played. We have one carry in week one of 2021, but I feel like based on what we saw from Elijah Mitchell afterwards, I feel like he was going to get that treatment as just at most,
Starting point is 00:20:05 or it was going to get that, that treatment. He was going to be their guy, but obviously I have no proof of that. It just kind of feels that way. Um, but so, so I,
Starting point is 00:20:14 I don't know. I mean, I don't know that they would use trade sermon. You can't, you can't just trash trace sermon. Obviously like John Lynch is going to be like, yeah, we think he sucks,
Starting point is 00:20:22 but maybe he does. He didn't really show anything. Oh, he definitely has a long way to go. But it's kind of been in the Kyle Shanahan era for fantasy the last running back that you think, or the last one that you
Starting point is 00:20:40 draft maybe, has been the best one. I know, but it's weird. I buy into that. I forget. i used to say it's like rangers closers i think because they always had a different one every single year and it was never the guy you drafted in fantasy but at the same time i mean i really think it was injury related for most or anyway i don't remember the circumstances surrounding that i mean if you're judging injuries mitchell did not give you a good first impression based on six games. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:21:07 What do you do as a fantasy analyst with this thing that 49ers running backs just always get injured? It shouldn't, it should probably have zero effect on how you go into 2022. You can't be like, well, he's a 49ers running back. He's really struggled injuries last few seasons. I mean, you think about after their Super Bowl year, they were lucky the Super Bowl season in terms of
Starting point is 00:21:28 how they got through their injuries, if I remember correctly. But the last two seasons, Kittle's missed time, Nick Bosa's missed time, the secondary was banged up. Oh, brutal. I mean, they're... Right, right. Look what happened to their quarterback. Look what happened to their secondary.
Starting point is 00:21:43 The whole defense, basically. Two years ago, the whole defense. These are key players. Yeah. Maybe they just can't keep their players healthy. This is where the benefit comes in, you know, to your question about the running backs. They run the ball better than anybody.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And, you know, that's Mike Shanahan to Kyle Shanahan. You know, I mean, you go everywhere they've been. Denver, Houston as a coordinator for Kyle Shanahan. Atlanta as a coordinator there. Washington when they were there. Obviously, San Francisco San Francisco you know they just run the ball I don't know why teams don't copy the same thing you know personnel obviously matters but the schemes that they've had for what 30 years has been extremely successful and so he's going to get somebody back there you're going to want to have somebody there and so to Dave's point yeah it's not a bad dart throw to take Trey Sermon ifell misses time if he's number two uh it
Starting point is 00:22:27 could be most dirt if he's back it could be uh rookie x that they draft or i mean look tevin coleman's a free agent they may decide to bring him back instead of bringing him that's one guy i won't buy it i i but i'm just saying you know in terms of what the 49ers do you know they're they're going to probably add somebody else and that somebody else is probably going to make us go oh why do they do that and and ruin maybe mitchell maybe sermon maybe both and that third guy could be the one that we want i also just quick footnote i i hope he sticks with the debo samuel a couple times a play or two or whatever he said because for the sake of the backfield if Debo's getting eight carries,
Starting point is 00:23:06 that's a killer. If he's getting one or two, that's different. I guess if you have Debo Samuel on your team, you want it. I bet they reconsider carrying four running backs if they're going to commit to giving Debo the ball more. They can carry three running backs,
Starting point is 00:23:21 and Debo is the fourth. It's the roster versus the active roster. That's the difference. Jamie, sorry, that went a little long. Let's do two more. You want to talk bills? Yeah. I asked Sean McDermott about Devin Singletary,
Starting point is 00:23:37 and it was kind of interesting timing because he had just answered a question in regards to meeting with offensive players. He didn't specify which players, but I think you can assume based on their needs that it's either going to be running back or probably offensive line, because I think those are the two positions that they go into looking at. Now they could look at receiver. Obviously, uh, they could be looking at backup quarterback because they're going to lose
Starting point is 00:24:01 Trubisky. So, you know, he could have meant anybody could be tight end. You know, he just didn't specify. He said, we had, we had good conversations with a lot of offensive players. And so I said, you know, what was the difference for Singletary then the last season, your commitment to him. And then what does that mean for his, his off season or his, his role going into going into 2022?
Starting point is 00:24:19 So he said, everyone wants to know who's the lead back, right? Well, at the end of the day, I thought Devin did a phenomenal job. Again, a young player that continues to earn everything that he gets. I thought his determination, the way he ran the ball in the back half of the season, let's say the back six games, really, I thought energized our offense and gave us an identity and some great momentum, some great energy within certain games in particular. He's really happy with the way he performed last season
Starting point is 00:24:40 and look forward to another strong year from him moving forward. So, you know, a non-answer really in terms of the commitment for 2022 but clearly was excited about the way that he ran the ball and I think we know you've seen the reports about this the the friction potentially between Sean McDermott and Brian Dable and so is there something to that that McDermott a defensive guy wanted to run the ball more take some pressure off of his defense take some pressure off of Josh Allen and sort of, you know, control the clock a little bit, as opposed to maybe day bowl who has this amazing quarterback and wants to
Starting point is 00:25:09 play to the strengths of his team, which was clearly not running the ball. So we'll find out, you know, with Ken Dorsey being promoted to the position with Joe Brady coming on as an offensive guy, those two things, you know, may not work hand in hand because I think Brady probably a little bit more of a past friendly friendly uh you know play caller as he was in Carolina at least wanted to be and you know Ken Dorsey being a quarterback and and wanting to appease to his quarterback also being on Dable's you know staff
Starting point is 00:25:35 per se you know coming from that tree uh is he going to want to lean that way but you know if McDermott's keeping him in the position you know maybe it's more of a hey you know you follow my lead so we'll find out you know I think that the position. I think we're going to see what the Bills decide to address if they do in the draft or free agency. They brought in Matt Breida last offseason. Zach Mostel, clearly there, will be a part of it in some capacity. But Singletary is somebody I know Chris Towers earlier in one of our podcasts said he thinks he's a breakout candidate. Building off those six games and carrying that over to the course of a full season, it's still such a big question mark to me. So I think Singletary is still a guy
Starting point is 00:26:07 you want to look at as a number two running back, a good one potentially, but not somebody I think you want to be overly aggressive with. So like that round four, round five range to me is still where I think he'll look. Dave, are you on Singletary or Elijah Mitchell if you're drafting today? I've got Mitchell higher in my rankings right now, but that's because I'm assuming that Buffalo will make a bigger splash at running back than San Francisco will. Now, if the draft ends and Buffalo doesn't make that big splash, and maybe San Francisco does, or maybe San Francisco makes a little splash and Buffalo just doesn't do anything at the running back position,
Starting point is 00:26:37 and in fact they four to five their offensive line, I'll move Singletary ahead. I've been waiting for Buffalo to make a big splash at running back for two years. They haven't done it either time. So when I heard Sean McDermott's quote, it made me think that they're very much considering not bothering to go heavy on running back again. And they might be very happy to just go with Singletary
Starting point is 00:26:58 as their main guy. Moss might earn that second spot. Somebody else might earn that second spot. Maybe it's a late round rookie. Who knows? And they just move forward that way because they've done so well being this Josh Allen-centric offense that they just keep doing that, and who the running back is doesn't really matter as much.
Starting point is 00:27:16 The Moss thing is interesting to me because I think they like him. I just don't know if they could trust him. Based on injuries, the fact that every time he seems to start to build something, he misses time. And so I just wonder if, you know, did Singletary do enough to kind of say, okay, we can, we can run with this guy. We can roll with this guy.
Starting point is 00:27:32 He can be the one that we lean on and we don't have to worry about necessarily using Moss. If in fact, you know, today's point, they don't go out and make some big splash. I don't see them making a huge splash there because I think Sean McDermott and certainly Brandon Bean are smart enough to realize that that's not a position you invest heavily in to make your team successful um so they have these guys under control uh in terms of singletary moss maybe draft a third and and go that route so i don't think it'll be a heavy investment but i do think maybe day two or day
Starting point is 00:27:58 three uh most likely probably day three is something that they do because that's kind of been what they've done you know singletary, a round three pick and Moss was as well. What was nice to see was Singletary was getting a lot of short yardage touchdowns. I don't want to necessarily say goal line, but one, two, three, four, five, six yards out. It's getting a bunch of those down the stretch. And that was usually something that just went to Josh Allen. And Allen still, even without those touchdowns, Josh Allen still had a huge finish. So you saw their offense was capable of having Allen, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:28 do it basically with his, with his arm, a little bit with his legs and still lose some of those goal line or short yardage touchdowns and still be awesome. One final news item, Jamie. News item. Or anything that you don't have. I mean, we can move on. I mean, I just, cause I have the notes in front of me from what McDermott said about Gabriel Davis, another guy that we're obviously excited about.
Starting point is 00:28:47 He was talking about, you know, just his development and, you know, I'm, I'm still somewhat old school with this about 30 year receiver. So he's entering year three. So what he said was he has a tremendous DNA. He's a winner. He's a player that in year two, really in year one, our backup in year one had a good season and came back and followed up in year two, which is not easy to do.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Then he continues to get better and better. And that's what I'm looking forward to seeing when he comes back in year three. Now this off season, he's quickly becoming one of our leaders in our locker room at such a young age, which is unique to say for a young player. So, you know, you had that strong playoff performance over 200 yards and four touchdowns against the chiefs, you know, clearly showing the upside and the high ceiling type of plays that we look for. Uh, Emmanuel Sanders is a free agent. I would be very shocked if they brought him back. I would also be surprised they don't add somebody to that room
Starting point is 00:29:29 because Cole Beasley is not exactly young. Stephon Diggs is starting to get expensive, so they might be starting to look at how they keep turning over the position in the future. So we'll see, again, the investment that they make there. But clearly, I think Gabriel Davis is going to be one of these guys that you have to consider a breakout candidate. And if does you know start to show you those flashes with more targets and more opportunities he could be a special player with a great quarterback he's
Starting point is 00:29:53 going to score four touchdowns every game right that's what that i mean five every every two games okay um i i think davis is going to be the number two receiver there they gave cole beasley permission to seek a trade. That's usually the precursor to somebody not being on that team in the coming year. So they might have a big opening at slot receiver. I remember the one game Isaiah McKenzie had when he was their slot receiver. Cole Beasley was out. McKenzie was awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:19 But they weren't out against you, right? What's up? He might have been. I believe it was McKenzie who was lining up in the slot. Yeah, no, I'm just saying, like, you know, target opportunities were certainly big. They could conceivably begin the year with Diggs, Davis, and McKenzie as their top three receivers.
Starting point is 00:30:35 They could draft a receiver, maybe in that round three, round four range, and let that guy be what Gabriel Davis was for the next couple of seasons where he just works his way up into the offense. And I think they can get by with that, assuming that they've got at least Dawson Knox tight end. I'm sure, Jamie, you heard the rumors about Gronk maybe ending up in Buffalo. That would be really, really fun.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I think this passing offense will be just fine. And if Davis is going to have that big of a role, then he's going to be one of the most prominent breakout receivers that everybody in fantasy is going to have that big of a role, then he's going to be one of the most prominent breakout receivers that everybody in fantasy is going to talk about. I wonder if that leads to him getting overdrafted a little bit. I like him in that round six ish range at the absolute earliest. I don't think he's worth the top 60 pick overall. That would be right.
Starting point is 00:31:19 If he's gone, he'll be in, in, in that range. Yeah. People get overexcited. Man. I think,
Starting point is 00:31:24 yeah, I think he'll get, he's got this ability to score touchdowns. It's incredible. He has 16 games in his career. You're going to hear this stat a lot from me throughout the next few months. 16 games with four or more targets. Just four or more targets.
Starting point is 00:31:36 He's caught a touchdown in 10 of those 16 games. I'll just look at games with four or five targets. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and I think there's 11 of them and he's caught a touchdown in one two three four five six seven of the 11 games where he has only only four or five touchdown targets he's caught a touchdown in seven of 11 pretty good it's crazy and does that does that pace continue if he's a number two receiver it can't continue
Starting point is 00:32:02 it just can't he's also not a guy who has a ton of short yardage touchdowns. If you look at all five of his playoff touchdowns, one against the wingland four against the chiefs, they were all from 19 yards out or 18 or more yards out. So I, I think his production has been fluky in that regard, but, but of course the touchdown rate comes down,
Starting point is 00:32:22 the targets, the yards that all goes up, you know, you obviously can make up. Okay, guys, we're going to take a break here. More news in a moment. And then the mystery draft. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Everybody's excited about it. And Dave, you're going to review Taken today? Absolutely not. I got some rookie notes for you too. Oh, yeah, we should probably do that. Okay, rookie notes come back rookie notes and and a taken reveal we'll be right back on welcome back dave you haven't watched taken what's going on here my wife and i sat down to watch it and we watched the preview for taken first and my wife immediately went, uh-uh, I'm not watching this. What? Really? So my review is Pirates
Starting point is 00:33:07 of the Caribbean was very good. The second one was a lot more entertaining than the first one. That's the first time you saw that one, too? Yeah. Wait a second. You saw which one? The first Pirates of the Caribbean? Dead Man's Chest, we saw.
Starting point is 00:33:25 No, I think they all suck after the first one. The first one's great Dead Man's Chest, we saw. No, I think they all suck after the first one. The first one's great. Okay, well, we like the second one. No, they're all entertaining. Right. I'm not going to say it's one of my favorite movies of all time. They're like a bad Game of Thrones episode. Just like
Starting point is 00:33:39 action porn, basically. But, alright, you'll watch Taken by Yourself. Also, I would say Taken is better than the than the preview i've seen the trailer and it makes it look really cheesy and it's it's doesn't do it justice i tried to sell my wife on watching daughter so watching that movie probably at this point in their lives is not the best thing no i'll watch it i don't i i'm i'm just gonna have to find some time when no one's home where i can watch taken solo um like adam does yeah like exactly adam puts everybody to sleep and then he can sit and watch a movie there was something i saw on amazon prime
Starting point is 00:34:08 taking my clothes okay never mind uh what they had something on amazon prime called the hungover games where they paid like average actors to like do a parody of The Hangover and The Hunger Games in the same movie. I tried to sell my wife on watching that because it looked absolutely terrible. And she also wouldn't watch The Hungover Games. It sounds pretty terrible. What do we got from Rookie Talk?
Starting point is 00:34:37 Did I ask you this very fun question that I forgot to ask? I didn't ask you this, right? Gabriel Davis or Michael Gallup? Davis. Oh my gosh. Well, think about it. One guy's the number two wide receiver for the Cowboys. Who's got a torn ACL?
Starting point is 00:34:53 Well, it's assuming health, obviously. Okay. Ask that question again in a couple of minutes. If Davis has not done in his career what Michael Gallup has done. They'll probably be drafted in a similar range. I would say probably a round or two apart if if there's no amari cooper but davis davis will definitely go for it yeah i know he will i want to know what you guys thought yeah okay who which rookie stood out to you um well uh as brady quinn told me i need to drink more milk but um i'm always uh uh
Starting point is 00:35:23 intrigued whenever um one of these running backs breaks my hand when I shake their hand. And so the two that I referenced to this running back in particular were Adrian Peterson when I met him at the Rookie Symposium in 2007. I'll still never forget that. I thought he broke my hand. And then Jonathan Taylor at the Combine two two seasons ago when also same thing. And if you're in the same company with those two guys,
Starting point is 00:35:49 I think you're pretty, pretty happy about that. I'm sure there are plenty of other running backs that have strong grips, but Reese Hall, when I shook his hand, I felt like he broke my hand. And I said, that's him.
Starting point is 00:35:58 He's my favorite running back. He's probably my favorite rookie in his class and did nothing to take away any of his stock because he just destroyed the competition in the, in the combine drills and, and impressed, you know, me in terms of the, the interview process that we, when we spoke to him. So he, he, he has, he has everything that you're, I think, going to be looking for. Now, Ken Walker was impressive. James Cook was,
Starting point is 00:36:23 was fun to talk to on and off the air. How many of these hands did you shake? Did you shake Ken Walker was impressive. James Cook was fun to talk to on and off the air. How many of these hands did you shake? Did you shake Ken Walker's hands? I shook Ken Walker's hand. I shook James Cook's hand. I shook Isaiah Spiller's hand. I shook Rashad White's hand. I shook Malik Willis' hand.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Only one of them felt like it gave you the broken hands. Which one felt like you were shaking hands with? There's a different handshake for certain people. Now, I don't have the strongest handshake. And sometimes, you know, I always hate, like, if somebody grabs my hand first, and, you know, you get, like, the weak handshake from you. Like, I give the weak handshake. You know, I hate that.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah, yeah, no, you don't want that, yeah. You know, like, somebody grabs your fingers, like, and it's like, you can't ask, hey, let's shake hands again because it's awkward. Unless you know the person or whatever. But, so, like, I try to extend, like, I try to have my have my hand my fingers open you know so like they can't squeeze my hand too soon um but there's a different handshake for certain people and a you know if you've ever had the opportunity to shake adrian peterson's hand you know you know it um uh like i said taylor was the same way and uh and brie saw was the same way but he he was he was every bit as good as advertised in the combine.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Now, a funny exchange happened on the set because Ryan Wilson, who's fantastic and hates Adam Azer, by the way, Ryan Wilson has Ken Walker as his favorite running back. Now, obviously, he's looking at it from an NFL perspective. I'm looking at it from a fantasy perspective because Walker did not show a lot catching the ball at Michigan State or at Wake Forest. So, you know, I asked him about that. You know, I said,
Starting point is 00:37:50 you know, what's, is that the part of your game that you need to, you know, sort of showcase that you can do? He's like, yeah, you know, you know, give me an opportunity to run routes. I'll, I certainly catch the ball in my hands and not a problem. It's just the way offense player, blah, blah. But I said to Brees Hall, I said, Ryan, I said, Brees, Ryan has you as the number two running back in the class. You're my favorite. Convince him why he's wrong.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And it didn't mean it to come across like I'm trying to throw Ryan under the bus, but that's obviously the way that it came across. You didn't mean it that way? Huh? You did not mean it that way? No, I played a couple games with some of these prospects. I said Ryan and Tommy Tran was the host and i said all right ryan is the coach tommy's the gm look at them and tell them why they should draft you
Starting point is 00:38:29 you know i did that with a couple of the prospects um and uh so i was kind of trying to do the same thing you know convince him why why he should make you number one you know he's not locked in this isn't his final prospect list and he sized up ryan with his eyes and he was like, there might be two guys in this class that you like. I am not number two. He said, I'm top two and not two. You correct it. That's a good question that you asked. I think that's fun. In any event, he did nothing to dispel my thoughts
Starting point is 00:39:08 that he's the best running back in his class. I like Isaiah Spiller. I thought he was great. James Cook, I asked him, what's different between you and your brother? It's Dalvin Cook's brother. And he said, my hands are a 10. So I don't know if that meant that his brother's hands are not.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And he kind of likened himself more to a pass catching back um i'm gonna say his name problem but kyron williams either kyron or kieran i think it's kyron brady quinn correct me uh the kid from notre dame uh just very impressive speaking to him very unimpressive with his drills uh slowest time of any running back and so just you know feel bad for the kid hopefully it doesn't you know ruin his potential because I do think he could be, you know, a good third down back. I don't know if he'll be, you know, a featured guy. Brady was trying to convince me otherwise, but again, Notre Dame bias. Uh, but in any event, um, the running back, you know, class was, was interesting. Um, I spoke to a couple of the receivers. Uh, Drake London was
Starting point is 00:40:01 the one that was most impressive to me starting to become one of my favorites of the non-ohio state guys uh and i think jameson williams would have probably improved his stock as well if he had not had the acl he probably would have been the best he he still might be the best receiver in this class i don't think he's going to get drafted first uh trailing burks obviously did not have a great um a 40 40 time you know especially given how fast everybody was running. Alex Pierce is quickly becoming one of my favorite guys for sure, the receiver from Cincinnati. We'll see where he ends up. He's going to be a guy
Starting point is 00:40:33 I think that has the receivers you don't really know based on name a chance to make an impact. I spoke to Malik Willis. I was on the set with Malik willis and he was uh very well spoken you know uh thinks he can be the best quarterback in his class um you know had uh arguably the best moments of any of the rookies at the combine and it didn't happen in the building it was you've probably seen the video by now he was uh helping a homeless person
Starting point is 00:40:59 on the street uh and somebody just happened to catch him you know recorded it happening um where he was seemingly giving you know either money or something to a homeless person, but took the time and spent seemingly a couple minutes there. So Kenny Pickett's hands were obviously a big story in terms of what his hand size was, eight and a half. It's smaller than Burrow, who came in at nine. The last quarterback that had hand sizes of this size that was anything of significance was Michael Vick. Obviously, Kenny Pickett doesn't do that.
Starting point is 00:41:26 So we'll see how that hurts his stock. Matt Crowell, you know, he – Corral, right? Matt Corral. I think it's Crowell, but I might be wrong. Okay. I was looking at the pronunciation. I thought that's what it was. In any event, what was I going to say?
Starting point is 00:41:49 Pete Prisco sold on Pickett being the best guy, just in talking to him off the air. He thinks he's going to be – he's the alpha of the group. And then Carson Strong said his knee is not an issue. Clearly that's going to be the thing that probably knocks him the most. But he said he took it off prior to his last game, went through the senior bowl practices without the knee brace on, uh,
Starting point is 00:42:06 didn't wear the knee brace, you know, for, uh, whatever he was doing with the teams, um, or showing the teams. So,
Starting point is 00:42:11 you know, that's going to be the thing that knocks him. I think he's the best pure thrower in the, of the group. Um, but we'll, we'll have to see how teams do that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Great stuff. I'm looking forward to this rookie class, maybe five wide receivers being drafted in the first round. Going to be a lot to talk about. Don't know if we'll have any running backs making the first round, but it will provide us some interesting fantasy takes for sure. Ryan keeps comparing it to the 2020 class, where we didn't expect to see someone go in the first round.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Edward Zolaire surprises at the end of the first round with the Chiefs. But think about round two. You know, Jonathan Taylor, DeAndre Swift, Cam Akers, JK Dobbins, and where we think of those guys. Now, if everybody was healthy and had the years that we thought they're going to have,
Starting point is 00:42:51 you would have be, you know, we'd be talking about maybe potential first round picks for acres for Swift, obviously Taylor Dobbins, you know, if they had performed like we thought they were capable of performing last year and all of those guys that were injured and coming off some,
Starting point is 00:43:04 some strong seasons can do it again. I think it is Corral. I know I heard it as Corral when I was watching. Oh, you're right. It's Corral. I'm sorry. Wait, no. You said it right. I said it wrong. Okay. Thank you, Jamie. We'll just pretend I was right about that.
Starting point is 00:43:20 All right. We need a backup somewhere. Do some news and notes. Do some news and notes here and dave already mentioned this but the bills are going to allow cole beasley to seek a trade multiple teams have expressed interest in trading for derrick carr his status seems pretty up in the air right now that's according to the las vegas review journal wow saquon barkley not expected to be traded oh that that was uh ianaport, but also I think that's the prevailing sentiment. That was another kind of refreshing take.
Starting point is 00:43:50 And Arthur Smith also said something kind of similar about Matt Ryan. But both Joe, how do you pronounce his GM's name? I never get it right. O'Shane. O'Shane. And Brian Dable kind of saying, if the right offer's there, we have to consider everybody. And usually when you hear about a franchise player,
Starting point is 00:44:09 and I still think Barkley is somewhat of a franchise player, you don't say, yes, we're considering trading him. And Arthur Smith said, if the right offer is there for Matt Ryan, we have to entertain it. So the win situation, Arthur Smith saying that about Matt Ryan, which didn't get any headlines because nobody was kind of paying attention to the Falcons. And the Giants situation, obviously, which didn't get any headlines because nobody was kind of paying attention to Falcons. And,
Starting point is 00:44:25 and the giant situation, you know, obviously, which got a lot of buzz with Barkley. So if, if teams are willing to, I think pony up for what the giants would be asking for, I'm sure they would consider it.
Starting point is 00:44:33 But I, I think that report is accurate. They're not going to trade. Saquon Barkley intention. Patriots cornerback, JC Jackson's going to become a free agent. He wants big time money. Chris Carson's recovery from neck surgery is going well, according to USA today.C. Jackson's going to become a free agent. He wants big-time money. Chris Carson's recovery from neck surgery is going well,
Starting point is 00:44:46 according to USA Today. Nice. He really might be the number one running back. And there's another report that came out, I think it was last night or this morning, that the Seahawks aren't going to get in a bidding war with Rashad Penny. Carroll was pretty glowing about Rashad Penny, talking about the way that he finally came through last season,
Starting point is 00:45:04 looked like the guy that they drafted, a lot of things that we said as well. But Carroll putting words to it that they were just so happy for him. They want him to come back. But again, I don't think they're going to overpay for that position, which, again, I think makes sense. Calvin Ridley's situation with the Falcons is extremely complicated, according to Ian Rappaport. Minnesota head coach Kevin O'Connell said he was going to move Justin Jefferson around the
Starting point is 00:45:28 formation. And obviously the comparison would be Cooper cut, just the way the Rams play. The guys moved around a lot and could see that with Justin Jefferson, Blake Jarwin, not expected to be ready for week one. He played, I think eight games last year for the Cowboys,
Starting point is 00:45:40 but his hip injury is a pretty serious one. Jarwin not expected to play. And for what it's worth, you did see more routes run per game for Dalton Schultz without Blake Jarwin on the field. I don't know if that was just because he was taking on a bigger role later in the season, but you did see an increase there. In fact, in the last, I want to say 10 games of the year, Blake Dalton Schultz was third in the NFL in routes run behind Deontay Johnson and Stefan Diggs, and he was only one route behind Diggs. The Saints re-signed Juwan Johnson to a one-year deal.
Starting point is 00:46:14 The Patriots have talked to the Panthers about acquiring Robbie Anderson, according to Boston Sports Journal. They definitely seem to want to upgrade at wide receiver, so they're a team to keep an eye on the Patriots. That is a Tyree kill expected to sign a four year, $85 million deal. According to pro football network, the chiefs franchised or will franchise tackle Orlando Brown left tackle.
Starting point is 00:46:35 And the Rams want to resign Odell Beckham. And after all that, it's now time for our mystery draft. So here's how it will work. I have basic clues about three quarterbacks, three running backs, and three wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And I'm going to give you basically their statistical profiles, and you guys get to pick who you want. And you will obviously leave one of them on the board. So, Jamie, well, who wants to be first at quarterback? One of you will be first at running back. on the board. Jamie, who wants to be
Starting point is 00:47:06 first at quarterback? One of you will be first at quarterback. One of you will be first at running back. Then I'll decide who goes first at quarterback. Wide receiver, pardon me. Jamie, would you like to be the first person to pick a quarterback or a running back? I will go with quarterback. I'm going to give you three quarterbacks here.
Starting point is 00:47:23 This would be a good visual segment if I had graphics, but I don't. So just try to play along at home. Everybody is best. You can quarterbacks a, B and C quarterback. A has two top 10 finishes in his career. One top five. So wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Am I supposed to just. You don't play when I get it. You're going to hear his stats and then pick one of them. Yeah. Don't even get, you can say, if you want to talk, think out loud who you think is, but that would be beneficial to Dave. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:50 So quarterback A has two top 10 finishes in his career, one top five. Quarterback B has not finished top 10 in his career. Quarterback C has four top 10 finishes and two top six. He's never finished higher than six, though. So quarterback A has a top 10 finishes and two top six. You've never finished higher than six though. So quarterback a has a top five finish. Quarterback B has two top six finishes for top 10. And sorry, that's quarterback.
Starting point is 00:48:12 C quarterback B has never finished in the top 10. I already screwed this up. Great. All right, let's go to some completion rates and yards per attempt. Quarterback a 66% completion rate, 7.5 yards per attempt. Quarterback B 61. 66% completion rate, 7.5 yards per attempt. Quarterback B, 61.3% completion rate, 7.3 yards per attempt.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Quarterback C, 66.3% completion rate, 7.5 yards per attempt. Quarterback C was the best there, although tied with quarterback A in yards per attempt. We'll pass a rating. Quarterback A was 11th best. Quarterback B, 22nd best last year. Quarterback C, yeah, fourth best passer rating last year. All right, so I've kind of set it up. Quarterback B, at least we know, is the worst passer of the group.
Starting point is 00:49:02 How about air yards? Quarterback A, 18th in air yards per pass attempt. Quarterback B, at least we know, is the worst passer of the group. How about air yards? Quarterback A, 18th in air yards per pass attempt. Quarterback B, 4th in air yards per pass attempt. A lot of downfield. Quarterback C, 8th in air yards per pass attempt. How about receivers? Quarterback A had 2,000-yard receivers last year. Quarterback B had none.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Quarterback C had one. You guys kind of following? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not only am I following, I already know which quarterback Jamie's taking and which quarterback I'm taking. Okay, Jamie, who do you want? I'll take quarterback A. Okay. Dave?
Starting point is 00:49:41 I'll take quarterback C. But I'm sure quarterback B is going to be one of the rookie quarterbacks like Justin Fields or somebody like that. All right, let's go to running backs. Dave, you get the first running back pick. Wait, we don't know who they are. You're not going to tell us yet. I'm going to tell you at the end. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Oh, you want you want to know now? That's fine. I will do it now. Jamie selected Justin Herbert. Dave selected Kirk Cousins. I knew it. I was hoping Jamie was going to take quarterback C. Look, I just said it right here.
Starting point is 00:50:14 You left Jalen Hurts on the board. Jalen Hurts was quarterback. I had a feeling it was Hurts when you said no top 10 finishes. So it was somebody young. And then when you started to say the... I knew that when he threw the ball down the field, he threw it. When he threw the ball, he threw the ball down the field a lot. I'm surprised
Starting point is 00:50:31 that he was fourth in air yards. Me too. I'm surprised Cousins was fourth in passer rating. I did a little research on Cousins. You'll see it on the site sometime soon. I think there's some room to be optimistic about him now that Zimmer's gone and that O'Connell's there and that there's a relationship between
Starting point is 00:50:50 O'Connell and cousins. He's got a shot to finish top 12 among quarterbacks. He always finishes top 12. That's the thing. He's been top six before or like top 10, a bunch of times, like Adam said, but never better than six.
Starting point is 00:51:03 He's the quarterback that no one's going to be excited to draft, and he'll come after all the exciting. He should be 15. Yeah, like right around there. You should look at him as if you miss or if you take a Lance or a Fields, that's the guy you pair him with. Yep. I think what's tough about a player like Cousins is in a 2QB league,
Starting point is 00:51:22 do you go with Lance, Fields, or Cousins? Might be a risk tolerance thing. I think you go with one of those two guys and Cousins, kind of similar approach. And then you kind of backfill that with like a Tannehill or a, you know, somebody that's also kind of a reliable veteran
Starting point is 00:51:38 that you know you can get by. Matt Ryan, that type of guy. All right, Dave, you got to make up a little ground here, okay? No, I don't. Kirk Cousins is okay. Yeah, he's got Herbert. You got Cousins.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Let's do running backs. Okay. Running back A, career, 5.1 yards per – is this career? 5.1 yards per carry, 8.3 yards per catch. Running back B, career, 4.1 yards per carry, 7.7 yards per catch. So both much worse than running back A. Running back C, career 6 yards per carry and 6.7 yards per catch. Best rush average, the worst receiving average for running back C.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Running back A has nine career rushing touchdowns. Running back B has 33 career rushing touchdowns. Running back B has 33 career rushing touchdowns. And running back C, just like running back A, has nine career rushing touchdowns. How about his role? Running back A has 4.6 carries per catch in his career. 4.6 carries for every catch in his career. Running back B has 6.5 carries per catch in his career.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Running back C has 7.4 carries per catch in his career. That might give you a hint as to who just doesn't really catch passes, basically. Or maybe not. Maybe who just gets a lot of both. And finally, what about team profile? Running back A's team was second in rush attempts in 2021, total rush attempts, not running back rush attempts. Running back B, 19th in rush attempts. His team was 19th in rush attempts in 2021. Running back C, his team was third in rush attempts in 2021. So you do have two running backs here who are on top three rush attempt offenses.
Starting point is 00:53:26 If you need any of the info repeated, let me know. Otherwise, make your pick. I'll take running back A. Okay. Jamie, who do you want? I'll take running back B. Okay, Dave, you're going to have to get some help at wide receiver because Jamie has Justin Herbert and Joe Mixon.
Starting point is 00:53:47 You have Kirk Cousins and Miles Sanders. Nice. Yes. Yes. I think Miles Sanders' career 5.1 yards per carry and 8.3 yards per catch. That is exceptional. Yeah, but we know what to do. Andrew has not disappointed.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Yeah. Andrew's my son who gave James a chance. Who was running back? I can't let you in on that info yet. Any guesses, guys? Career, six yards per carry, 6.7 yards per catch, nine rushing touchdowns. Not a lot of catches, 7.4 carries per catch.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Nine rushing touchdowns. Yeah, he and Sanders. Yeah, nine in his career um i thought the six yards per carry would uh entice the 7.4 whatever carries per catch made me it's jk.K. Dobbins. Okay. He's played one year. That's his career numbers. I'm going to let you go first at wide receiver since you need the help. It's going to be a terrible player. I'm already sure of this. Wide receiver A.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Let me tell you this. They all led their team last year in targets, catches, and yards. Wide receivers A and B also led their teams in touchdowns. Wide receiver C did not. But all of these guys were leading their team in targets, catches, and yards. And two of them, A and B, led their team in touchdowns. Wide receiver A had an 11.1 ADOT.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Wide receiver B, 9.8. Wide receiver B, 9.8. Wide receiver C, 10.3. So most downfield guy was wide receiver A. Wide receiver A, 7.5 yards per target, ranked 75th. And that was actually the second lowest mark of his career, 7.5 yards per target. Wide receiver B, 8.4 yards per target, ranked 41st. He also had the lowest ADOT. Wide receiver C, 9.2 yards per target,
Starting point is 00:55:55 by far the best in this group, ranked 20th. And he had the middle ADOT. Catch rate, wide receiver A, 63%. Wide receiver B, 68% wide receiver, C 66%. Where do they line up? Wide receiver, a 78% of his snaps on the,
Starting point is 00:56:13 are out wide. I would say for B 84% out wide. Ooh, receiver C 65% out wide wide receiver. C was more slotty. Um, he was, he's in slotty he said slotty right slotty he was second in a dot he was second in yards per target and he was second in catch rate i receiver b had uh the best uh no i'm sorry i screwed that up wide receiver c was first in yards per target
Starting point is 00:56:41 wide receiver b was second in yards per target wide receiver a was last in yards per target. Wide receiver B was second in yards per target. Wide receiver A was last in yards per target. Anything else you need to know, Dave? Do you have touchdowns? I can. I'm sure. What the heck? I'll be all with that. I mean, I think I already know which one I'm taking.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Who do you think right now you're taking? I think I'm taking wide receiver C. All right. Wide receiver A had 10 touchdowns. Wide receiver B had six. Wide receiver C had six. Overall, wide receiver A had kind of disappointing statistics, except for the touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Except for the touchdowns. Right. Wide receiver B sounds like DJ Moore. I'll take wide receiver B sounds like DJ Moore. I'll take wide receiver B. I'll change my mind based on that. I was going to take C. All right, Jamie, who do you want, A or C? I will take Stephon Diggs.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Yeah, wide receiver A. Stephon Diggs. Jamie is going to kick your ass Justin Herbert Joe Did you take Jalen Waddle? No Justin Herbert
Starting point is 00:57:50 I would have been happy with Waddle Joe Dixon And Stefan Diggs Dave has Kirk Cousins Miles Sanders And Michael Pittman You have Michael Pittman
Starting point is 00:58:00 And Wide receiver C was CeeDee Lamb Listen man Jacob Eason to Michael Pittman and receiver C was CD lamb. Listen, man, Jacob Beeson to Michael Pittman next year. And you just did our mystery draft. Good job guys. Good job.
Starting point is 00:58:13 So I don't know what that necessarily proved because you took a bunch of stats that were arbitrary. Let's read this question from donnie brooke is adam's dad a cbs exec or something was this show a birthday present dave and jamie were threatened if they refused to participate he also says running back a prefers to wear green underwear while running back B likes blue. Okay. Does anyone at CBS have a handler to protect Adam from himself? I'm going to do a bunch of research on nine players. Why don't we just do a real draft? Right. What do you mean a real draft?
Starting point is 00:59:00 Because we were trying to go. Here's the player pool. And then I'll give you the stats on the players. You know, you'd never know what it's going to be unless you try. Wait, what did your team end up with? Oh, I get the scraps? Yeah. Better than mine.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Jalen Hurts, J.K. Dobbins, and CeeDee Lamb. Yeah, your team is not the best. Yeah. All right. Okay, well, I thought. Andrew was nuts, I'm telling you. What was interesting is how much better to me, how much better miles Sanders career numbers are than Joe Mixon rate wise.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Um, maybe that's why rate stuff like that. Doesn't matter. Right. Of course. Uh, Michael Pittman had a pretty damn solid year, 8.4 yards per target and a 68% catch rate on a respectable 9.8.
Starting point is 00:59:42 A dot. That's really good. So Chris Ballard, while we're there, Chris Ballard said, uh, they're not opposed to bringing back ty hilton which will be interesting um really would probably help michael pitman to be honest um uh and he also said unsolicited don't give up on paris campbell yet so you know we'll see if he can stay healthy and it's funny you go back to the combine two years ago campbell was you you know, one of the fastest guys there. It was him and Terry McLaurin in terms of speed. And we know Campbell, unfortunately, just has not stayed healthy.
Starting point is 01:00:10 So that's a real area of need for the Colts is to find another receiver or some help at receiver and probably tight end as well. Well, that's all I have for today's show. Glad it went so well. Do you have a mystery outro? No, but man, this guy Donnie Rook really hates me.
Starting point is 01:00:27 My goodness. Okay. Oh, Dan Schneier's watching too. I got a great Dan Schneier story. I listen to Dan Schneier's podcast and I have a review of it and I'll give it on the air next time. Dan Schneier's on.
Starting point is 01:00:40 So, Big Blue Banter. It's a good podcast. So, that's Dave and Jamie. I'm Adam. We'll talk to you. What?
Starting point is 01:00:48 You didn't answer Dan's question. What? I didn't follow him on Twitter. So Jamie makes it out to be that I got on Ryan Wilson's bad. Jamie is trying. Like Jamie's such an instigator. He made Brees Hall hate Ryan Wilson. He's making Ryan Wilson hate me.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Jamie's trying to like, just ruin all these relationships for Ryan Wilson. I would just like to know why you haven't had him on yet. We're going to have him on. It's draft season and you haven't had him on yet. Not really draft season. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:11 The combine is draft season. Yeah, whatever. You had Chris Trapasso on. Next time we do mystery draft, I'll have Ryan on. Why don't you do that with prospects? See if Ryan can guess the prospects. I bet you can.
Starting point is 01:01:21 It's a good idea. Bye. We're out of here. Bye.

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