Fantasy Football Today - Dak Prescott Stats; Mailbag (07/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)
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Dave and Chris were talking about fast food before I
hit record. I didn't want to
break that up. It sounded very good, but
am I really
to understand that
Giannis Antetokounmpo
after winning the championship
drove to Chick-fil-A with
the trophy in his lap?
This morning. It wasn't like
right after. Obviously Chick-fil-A is not open late. True. With the trophy in his lap? This morning. It wasn't right out. Obviously, Chick-fil-A is not
open late. True.
With the trophy in his lap, I'd order
50 chicken nuggets. 50?
I want to say
he might have gone back for a second
50.
He's very cool.
He's lovely.
He really seems like just a genuinely
great dude.
That was cool.
Congratulations to the Bucs.
Never seen a player like Giannis.
Just amazing.
Probably better than Jordan, right, Dave?
No.
No, not quite.
But 50 Nuggets.
That might be better than Jordan.
I don't know if MJ's ever polished off 50 Nuggets in one sitting
with a 50-50 Sprite lemonade.
No ice. Do you think
you could do that? Yes.
You think so?
I have an ice cream sandwich sitting right next
to me. Well, that's just gonna melt me.
I'm at least 30 pounds overweight. I could
definitely take down 50 chicken nuggets.
He's legitimately eating an ice cream sandwich right now.
The thing for me with all
of those is like, could I do it?
Yes.
Would I?
Also, yes.
I'm 33.
I'm too old for it.
Are you kidding me?
I'm 45.
I know.
You're too old for it, too.
Oh, thanks, Dad.
I'm not going to bounce back like I used to.
Dr. Towers here.
Don't eat fried food.
Yeah, I've heard that before.
Oh, no.
I'm not saying don't eat fried food. Yeah, I've heard that before. Oh, no, I'm not saying don't eat fried food.
I eat lots of fried food.
I ordered Chick-fil-A after I saw Giannis make his stop there.
But 50 nuggets, that's just too many nuggets.
How many nuggets could you take down, Chris?
Comfortably.
Comfortably?
I mean, 20 Chick-fil-A nuggets would be pretty easy.
Could you do 30?
Again, it's not a question of could I.
It's not a question of what I'm physically capable of.
Okay.
You know, it's what's advisable.
I don't think I've ever had the chicken nuggets at Chick-fil-A.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Not advisable.
Yeah, I've had the chicken sandwiches and stuff.
I don't think I've ever had the chicken nuggets.
I will say the milkshakes at Chick-fil-A, as I recall, were top notch.
Then again, it's hard to have bad milkshakes.
Basically tastes the same as the sandwich, just it doesn't have bread on it.
The milkshake tastes like that?
Yes.
Yes, exactly.
Well, that's if you get the chicken nugget milkshake.
Yeah, yeah.
There's 50 of them.
With Polynesian sauce mixed in.
Oh, terrific.
Alright, so let's do
one good stat, one bad stat. See how this
goes for the second consecutive day.
Dak Prescott.
Dak Prescott, good stat.
Pretty simple. Was the number two quarterback in fantasy
in 2019. Was
per game, number two in four
point. Number four in six point,
but very, very close to number two per game in 2020.
So obviously he could be a top two quarterback.
Let's be real.
The bad stat, weird stat, not sure what to make of it stat,
of the 10 best quarterbacks in fantasy last year,
that would be in no particular order,
Jackson, Rogers, Tannehill, Allen, Watson, Wilson, Murray, Mahomes, Brady, Prescott.
He had by far the fewest fantasy points per pass attempt.
By far.
So, you know, Lamar Jackson was by far number one.
So the rushing quarterbacks, it favors them.
But I was surprised by that.
He was way...
That's weird.
Yeah.
Mahomes, Brady, and Prescott were the bottom three.
But Prescott was way in the back of this list.
I'm trying to figure out what would have led to it.
I thought, okay, maybe he didn't have many rush touchdowns.
Well, he had three and five games.
He just threw so many passes.
He caught a touchdown.
He didn't really have a ton of interceptions.
He had three fumbles, but I don't know how many of them were lost.
But you look at it all together, and it doesn't really make sense.
I know.
It's just a relatively low touchdown passing rate,
which that's been a thing for his career.
Among the very, very best quarterbacks,
he's been a relatively low touchdown rate guy,
4.6% for his career.
Career high is 5.0.
And that makes sense.
This is a Cowboys team.
This is something you've actually seen for the Cowboys.
If you go back to the Troy Aikman years,
he had very low touchdown rates.
It's because they love to give their running backs touchdowns i don't know if it's like a
jerry jones thing that he just loves to see a running back score a touchdown but um i don't
know if there's anything there really to take away from it you know dac will have to be more
efficient next season on a per pass attempt basis in order to justify, you know, a top six ranking just cause he's probably not going to throw 46 passes a
game.
Like he was on pace for,
or actually probably closer to 50 since he left the giants game early.
But I think he will be more efficient.
So I'm not particularly worried about it.
Yeah.
I don't know,
Dave,
if there's anything,
it's just that the last two seasons he's benefited from a very high volume. I don't really see why he wouldn't have that, but maybe quarterbacks, but he runs a lot. So that's how he makes up for it.
Duh.
That's why we love rushing quarterbacks when it comes to fantasy football,
especially guys like Lamar Jackson.
The stat that I like about Dak is that I have him with 29.6 fantasy points per game.
So that's really good.
And in those games, he wasn't number one, but he was close to it.
That's still a super huge number.
Last year, 2019, or I should say the year before that, 2019, when he did play a lot, he was fifth best with 23.5 fantasy
points per game. That's still pretty darn good. You'd be happy to have that as your floor for
Dak Prescott this year with the ceiling being, I don't think we can call it 29, but 26, 27,
maybe 27 and a half. That'd be great. So hopefully the efficiency
does a little bit better because I can't expect him to throw more than he did last year.
And hopefully he runs a little bit too. Helps him, helps out his stats.
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This is Dawson from
a southern Georgia city
that may or may not have a creek.
That may or may not have a creek.
I was going to say Valdosta
until you said the creek part.
Dawson's Creek.
Dawson's Creek.
No?
In Georgia? No, his name is It's just, you know, Dawson's Creek. Dawson's Creek. Dawson's Creek. No. In Persia?
No, his name is Dawson.
Okay.
Oh, oh, oh, I get it.
Okay.
Thank you.
I'm thinking of starting a very basic one-year fantasy league with some buddies.
What do you all recommend as the most traditional slash basic settings for the league?
Chris, you're basic as scott white would say
yeah um i am pretty basic did you want me to answer the question yeah sure while you insult
me yeah that's fine um one quarterback two running backs two wide receivers one tight end one kicker
one dst if you want to keep it really basic you go with non-ppr but i think at this
point ppr is the is the basic um you know fairly small rosters uh your your nine starting spots
plus um nine eight uh that's how many receivers plus five five or six bench spots so you have a
pretty active waiver wire.
Um,
basically you probably don't want to go with fab.
You probably just want to keep it traditional waivers.
Um,
yeah.
Yeah.
And traditional waivers or just free agency,
you know,
you should decide to run waivers every night.
Oh,
Hey Ben,
you had something to say.
What's up?
Yeah.
I am a big proponent of free-for-all free agency
for the most casual fantasy league.
Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
I just think it can get really...
I think that can get frustrating for the guys
who don't have the time to sit around
and react to the breaking news all the time.
I think one thing about traditional waivers,
and this is probably something that a lot of hardcore fantasy players don't like about it, but it levels the playing field.
And I think when you're playing in a very basic laid-back league, the most level playing field is the best thing that you can go for because it keeps everyone engaged.
It's unfair.
What happens if everybody's busy and there's breaking news?
It's the one guy in in the league that
you know doesn't have a life and is sitting on his phone all day or sitting on twitter all day
that can go and make the moves every single time wait it sucks to be in a league with people and
there's one guy in the league who adds the you know the hot name du jour off the waiver wire
right but immediately it's very important every Every time. Very important. They're so valuable in football compared to other fans.
Waivers.
Okay.
Very important distinction here.
The guy who's on his phone,
picking up the player to shore definitely has a life because that's like all of
our listeners.
So let's just make,
make that clear,
but not all of our listeners playing leagues where it's a free for all for
ad drops.
I know,
I know.
I'm just saying,
or like, or even like on a Sunday when, when a stud running back goes down, But not all of our listeners play in leagues where it's a free-for-all for ad drops. I know, I know. I'm just saying.
Or even like on a Sunday when a stud running back goes down,
when Christian McCaffrey leaves with an injury,
that guy is there picking up Mike Davis while the game is happening.
Players lock at game time.
I've been in leagues where they do not lock.
I just want to say it's not fair for Adam to assume that everyone has a life while also
being on their phone and on Twitter a lot.
Because I definitely don't.
It's worth being clear.
Nothing wrong with not having a life.
I think waivers are so easy to
understand that
even the most basic of fantasy leagues can have
it. I would agree with that as well.
Okay, fine. No consensus there. Do what you want
with transactions. This is from Alan from
a coastal town in Massachusetts,
Dave, that may or may not have a
creek. Fairmouth.
Dear
Vince, Drama E and Turtle.
Those are the Ninja Turtles.
Yes.
They have a Ninja Turtle
called Turtle? Yeah.
He's Turtle the Ninja Turtle.
The red one was my favorite.
Drama.
I drew the seven spot.
Rafael was full of drama.
Seven spot in my 10-team standard league.
I believe I'll have access to the following players at 7 and 14.
I love your advice on the best combos.
Zeke, Taylor, Jones, Gibson, Mixon.
Adams, Hill, Diggs, Hopkins, Ridley.
This is a standard scoring league.
Pick two of those, basically.
Zeke, Taylor, Jones, Gibson, Mixon,
Adams, Hill, Diggs, Hopkins, Ridley.
Well, if you take Adams,
you're probably not going to have access
to Zeke, Taylor Taylor at the very least.
And maybe Hill as well, if you take those guys at seven.
So you do have to keep in mind that, you know,
it's either one of Adams and Hill and one of the later running backs,
Gibson or Mixon, or one of the early running backs,
plus Diggs, Hopkins, and Ridley.
I think I would probably go... If I could do Ridley and Zeke, I think would be the way that I would go.
I'm taking Taylor first, Zeke second.
I would take Jones third, and I would look for one of those three at seven.
I would put my hands together and pray to the fantasy gods
that Antonio Gibson or Joe Mixon would make it back to me at 14.
If they're not there, I'm taking the best available wide receiver.
Yeah, they're going to.
I'm assuming Kelsey is gone.
Yeah, if Kelsey's there at seven, I'm taking him.
In a non-PPR league, you're taking Kelsey over Zeke Taylor?
Yeah.
Okay.
From Gronk324.
Dear McCorkle, Cameron, Brian, and Jarrett.
Those are quarterbacks on the New England Patriots.
Oh.
Nice.
Including McCorkle.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
That's short for Mac. Right. Daddy. Full PPR. Wait, his name is McCorkle. Oh, that's right. Yeah. That's short for Mac.
Daddy.
Full PPR.
Wait, his name is McCorkle Jones?
Yeah, right?
That's his name, right?
I don't remember if McCorkle is his first name or middle name.
Okay.
His official name.
Michael McCorkle Jones.
Okay.
If his given name was McCorkle Jones,
I would have questions about him going in the first round.
That's how I feel about Travis Kels,
as I've already said on this show. If his name
is really Kels, I'm not interested.
Full PPR, 10-team redraft.
How early
is too early for Kelsey?
I have the fifth spot, PPR.
I'm torn between him and Derek Henry
and Devontae Adams. If I take Kelsey, what do I do after that with my next three or four picks?
Chris, this question's made for you, man.
Yeah, it's Kelsey for me.
If he's available and it's between him, Derrick Henry, and Devontae Adams,
Travis Kelsey is my number three player.
In a PPR format, I think he's the biggest gap that you can get
at any position with the exception of Christian McCaffrey, assuming he does something similar
to what he did in 2018 and 2019.
If Kelsey continues his pace from the last couple of seasons,
he's like a cheat code.
I want to say he outscored the number 12 tight end last season
by something like 120 points.
I believe that's correct.
It was an outrageous number.
Number 12, it was...
Sorry, I undersold him.
168 points is how much Travis Kelsey outscored
the number 12 tight end in 2020.
I don't think he'll be quite as good as he was last season,
but yeah, I'm taking him at number five.
And if I end up with kelsey and i don't get you know one of the top seven or eight running backs in
the second round i'm totally fine going wide receiver heavy after that and and you know
veering into a zero rb build because you know kelsey the thing about zero rb is you have to
have an edge at pretty much every
other position. Kelsey gives you the
biggest one. Wait, so how many points?
168.
Okay, because Henry was
120-ish points better than
RB12.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Right, and
then if you compare them to RB24,
I don't really know.
It's like...
It's not exactly the same.
64 or something.
It's a big deal, but it's not quite as obvious.
And there are more ways for things to go wrong for Derrick Henry than there are for Travis Kelsey.
I think Derrick Henry... I think Derek Henry, I'm going to try to find the tweet,
but it was something like he had the most rushing yards since 2012.
Sorry.
Most carries since 2014, the most rushing yards since 2012,
and the most rushing touchdowns since 2016.
He had basically the best rushing season for a running back
over the last decade.
Yeah, but his 2019 was...
Not nearly as good.
It was so much better than Kelsey's.
It was 300 fantasy points for Derek Henry
in full PPR
in 2019, which is
almost as much as what
Kelsey had last year. Kelsey had 313
fantasy points last year,
but Kelsey didn't even come close to that.
No, no, no. Derek Henry's going down to score Travis Kelsey.
That's not the question.
I mean, if they're both healthy and things go right.
It's the edge that they give you.
Derek Henry, to have a similar edge
over the number 24 running back last season
as Kelsey had over the number 12,
Henry needed the best rushing season of the last decade.
That's where I think the difference is.
All right, Dave, who would you take?
I'm taking Henry.
I like Chris's argument a lot
for why Kelsey is worthy of a pick that high,
and I'm taking him ahead of every other receiver
in full PPR and most other running backs.
He's a first-round pick for sure, but I know that IPR and most other running backs. He's a first round pick for sure.
But I know that I have to start two running backs in my fantasy league. I know that I only have to
start one tight end. This is a 10 team league, especially that we're talking about. I know that
when I'm up in round two, if I really want to have that tight end and use that positional advantage,
I'm pretty confident that at least one from Darren Waller or George
Kittle will be there for me with that pick. And are they going to be as good as Travis Kelsey?
Probably not as good, but they're still going to give me a positional edge. I can still have that
edge over the majority of my league while still having a positional edge at running back with
Derrick Henry. As for things going wrong with them, there's really only one real way
for Derrick Henry's season to go wayward,
and that's if he gets hurt,
whether he plays through injury and loses playing time
or he gets hurt so bad that he has to miss some games.
Henry could also, or Henry,
Kelsey could get hurt and miss some games,
and Mahomes could also get hurt
and hurt Travis Kelsey,
which is what we saw a few years back.
So I just, I think that that argument
is kind of like an equalizer between the two I just, I think that that argument is kind of
like an equalizer between the two of them. I don't mind taking Derek Henry even in a full PPR league.
Both of these guys are candidates for over 300 points a year to date. I think Henry can get
considerably more than that and he's proven it. And the offense that he's in is going to be great.
And I think there's a chance his efficiency can go up because defenses can't guard him and can't defend him the way that they did in prior years now that julio jones is there
okay next email is from macaroni daddy this is an apple podcast not an email hey bridget daniel
aaron and chandler those are the friends from friends no oh those are j. Yeah, that's right. How would you rank the positions
in terms of draft importance
for a 12-team PPR super flex redraft league?
Three receivers.
All right, yeah, so quarterback's got to be one, right?
Not to say that Mahomes is clearly the number one pick,
but quarterback's...
It's got to be up there. If it's not one, it's two. the number one pick, but quarterbacks isn't quarterback number one.
If it's not one, it's
two. The only reason
it wouldn't be is because there's only one of them.
But even then, since
you're starting two, you're
starting as many quarterbacks as you are running
backs on 90% of teams
in a super flex league.
And they score more points and they're
not quite as plentiful as running
backs when you can start two of them that gobbles up the supply and it raises the demand so i would
put quarterbacks ahead of running backs i would put receivers last on this list so three receiver
league they're last so they're last just a super flex and not a flex plus a super flex. I think that's probably reasonable.
See, that's where I am always thinking.
Like, do you put, I think I would go,
I think I would go quarterback running back tight end receiver.
But to me, and as I'm always on an Island,
I feel like with this,
but once I get past the top three quarter, three tight ends,
it's a super flex league with three receivers.
I just don't really care that much about tight end.
Unless I fall in love with Pitts, Hawkinson, or Andrews or something.
But certainly after that, just forget it.
Because you add that second quarterback, there's so much more scoring.
So I'd rather have a wide receiver who's going to crush the tight end in scoring.
And forget about the positional
scarcity at that point.
I think when you... But you have to remember
it in those early rounds when you're considering
possibly taking Kelsey with
the top 12 pick
and Waller and Kittle with the top
30 a pick. Right. I wasn't
really answering the question that way with just
the elite guys. I just think overall
because they're just different.
I mean,
they're top.
You know what?
I would look at it like this.
It's either quarterback or running back at the top.
If you're going to go with an elite quarterback,
that probably means the choices you're going to be picking from it.
Running back.
When you come back in the second and third round are going to be a lot
less interesting than the guys you would be taking in the second and third round are going to be a lot less interesting than the guys you would be
taking in the first round certainly but also the potential quarterbacks in the second round and so
i kind of think your strategy here should probably be either elite quarterbacks or elite running
backs and then wide receivers um and you can take one of the elite tight ends too if you if you
really want to push it there.
But I think you kind of do have to prioritize
either QB or running back.
Yeah, at least we all agree on the top two.
Okay, we're going to be live Tuesday night,
7 p.m. Eastern on our YouTube channel,
which is youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday,
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Hit the subscribe button on the channel.
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This one is from Shinedog from a growing town east of the Emerald City.
Kirkland.
Sure.
Hey, Marge, Lois, Peggy, and Leela.
By the way, it's Bellevue.
But Marge, Lois, Peggy, and Leela.
I know them.
Those are, I don't know if Le, and Lila. I know them. Those are...
I don't know if Lila's a mom.
She's not.
They're all like the leads of...
Animated.
Well, they're animated.
Two of them are.
Oh, no.
All Fox shows.
Yeah, Fox shows.
That's true, but yeah.
My league, 12-team PPR Keeper League,
where you add a three-round penalty
to where you drafted the player the prior year.
I like this.
Is transitioning from flex to super flex.
Ooh.
Personally, I would say you should just redraft, but fine.
I've decided I'm keeping Joe Burrow in round eight
and one of Waller in round four or Dobbins in round five.
Who would you take there? Probably Waller in round four or Dobbins in round five. Who would you take there?
Probably Waller,
who I would draft ahead of Dobbins
in a typical draft anyway.
Yeah.
And their values are basically the same.
The argument that you can make for Dobbins is if you keep him
and he is awesome this year,
you'll be able to keep him next year
for a second round pick. Whereas Waller, if you wanted to keep him next year for a second round pick.
Whereas Waller,
if you wanted to keep him next year,
it would cost you a first.
That's probably not going to be something
that you would do.
I just have a hard time seeing Dobbins
being worth a second round pick
in that offense
unless something drastically changes.
That's just kind of where I'm at on it.
From Jason from a town
just north of Boston.
North of Boston. Haverhill.
Dear Hendrix, King, Little, and Dave.
Do you know what this is?
Well, he explains it.
Oh, he does? Sorry.
Yes.
Oh.
Richards.
Richards.
Richards.
That's awesome.
Sorry, Dave.
I should have gotten that.
I didn't get it.
Ted Team, half PPR, Keeper League,
six point per passing touchdown.
It's my last year to keep Kamara,
and I get to draft him at 208,
and I have 103.
I expect Henry and Taylor to be kept by other managers. I don't expect
McCaffrey or Cook to drop to 103.
So what is the best strategy? Should I take
Zeke or Barkley? Should I take
Kelsey?
Kittle's going to be kept.
Waller will not be available with my
third pick. So I'm leaning Kelsey.
I think Chris would agree.
Dave, if Henry
and McCaffrey and Cook
and Taylor are all off the board and he's
keeping Alvin Kamara, who would you
take? I have Barkley
ranked ahead of Zeke as
of now, but
I might get cold feet by the time you get to the draft
because we don't know if Saquon
is going to be full
go anytime soon. If he's
participating in training camp,
he's not on the pub list.
That'll make me feel a little bit better about taking Barkley ahead of Zeke.
And plus he's got crazy up.
They both do.
They both have huge upside.
So I would probably be more inclined to take Barkley,
pair him with Camara,
have,
you want to talk about a positional edge.
That's a hell of a positional edge that you would have at running back over
the rest of the league.
And it's half PPR,
so the sting of missing out
on Kelsey isn't quite as bad.
All right, last one
from Apple Podcasts.
This is from Brett.
Dear Hank, Marty, Romeo,
Todd, and Andy.
Those are Azers.
They are.
They are Chiefs head coaches.
Great show,
and the Azer stats
have changed my perception of life. Hmm. Chiefs head coaches. Great show, and the Acer stats have changed my perception
of life.
All right, Brett. This guy really wanted to get his
email read. I mean, is that like
saying that when I measure
my waist, if I skip
like 7 through 12 and
just don't count those, I'm actually
like a size 34?
Sure. Is that what
a life-changing
Acer stat would be?
Acer stats are supposed
to make you feel better
about something.
So yeah, perfect.
That would make me feel better.
Thank you.
Keeper question
for a $200 salary cap league.
One keeper each year.
And this is the first year
with a super flex position
added to our
standard scoring league.
Is this the same league
that we just answered
a question about?
I doubt it.
They're changing to Superflex?
Who should I keep?
$200 salary cap.
Diggs for 27,
Gibson for 22,
Swift for 23,
or Jalen Hurts for 12?
They're all good.
It's got to be Hurts, right?
For 12, Superflex? Sure. they're all good it's got to be hertz right for 12 super flex sure and the reason why that works out is because then you still have like most of your budget left to go after other players
um do you i guess the other side to it is do you really see Jalen Hurts going for... Okay, so I'm turning this into a
math equation. We need to figure out what would Diggs, Gibson, and Swift go for in this salary
cap draft. And then you subtract what we think they'd go for from what the actual cost is,
do the same thing with Hurts. Whoever has the biggest discrepancy, that's the one that you
actually want to hang on to. Because if I keep for 12 but i think well wait a minute if i
can if i can get him back on my team for 17 that's only five more whereas digs at 27 and gibson at 22
like those guys for sure are going to go for more than that probably more than five five bucks more
than that so i don't think it's quite a slam dunk.
So the first thing we have to do is,
all right, you've got a 200 budget.
What's your max bid on Jalen Hurts?
Is it even 20?
In a super flex league?
Is it even 20?
I think it is.
Is it 25?
I think it's probably 25.
Okay, so let's say it's 25.
So that's a difference of 13.
What's your bid going to be on Diggs?
Yeah, he's going to get
probably above 40.
Right. Yeah.
So 40 at a bare
minimum is the same difference as
Hertz would be at 25. That's 13.
But you don't have to get Stefan Diggs back.
I mean, that's the faulty logic.
You don't have to, but if you're going to go and get somebody like
Stefan Diggs, it's probably going to cost you
in the same kind of range.
But you're also, by getting Hertz, you're saving
$15
compared to Diggs.
So one thing to keep in mind, though,
is not every dollar.
No, no, he's $15 cheaper than Diggs.
So the thing to keep in mind in a 200
league is every dollar is not the same you know it's it's marginal dollars and
in a 200 league as opposed to like the standard hundred dollar leagues that we play
your elite players shouldn't you don't just double a player's value your elite players
should go for much more because your dollar players aren't going to become two dollar players necessarily
you're still going to have some dollar players so you have not just more overall money to play with
but more of it should be concentrated in your best players and so it's not just Diggs is 27 instead of 40.
It might be Diggs is 27 instead of, I mean, legitimately it might be 60.
All right, so who are you keeping?
I'm changing my answer.
I think I would go Diggs.
Dave?
I think I'm going to go Diggs as well.
Okay, keep Diggs.
We'll take a break.
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This is from Kaylin.
Greetings, Rod, Dave, Rico, Kevin, and Denise.
Wait, I don't know them. Who is it?
Hot Rod. Oh,
so underrated. Love it.
Alright, grade this Dynasty
Superflex trade. I sent Chris Carson
and a 2022 first round
pick for Ezekiel
Elliott. You should see this ice cream sandwich.
It's a total mess now.
You didn't finish it? That was 30 minutes ago.
It's been sitting here the whole time.
Total mess. Still delicious, but messy.
I think that's a
C+.
Carson and a 2022 first round
rookie pick for Zeke.
I think it's going to...
I think it gives you a better chance to win now
for obvious reasons.
Okay.
And I don't think it'll sting you
too bad next year
because I think Zeke will still
be on the Cowboys next year
unless he just absolutely
turns to trash this year.
Great it.
So if it's,
I'm going to give it a B plus
for the Zeke side.
From Cody,
dear Danny,
Joey,
Jesse,
and Becky.
Everywhere you know. All right. Need a little assist. The Jesse, and Becky. Everywhere you are.
All right.
Need a little assistance.
That's the mamas and the papas.
Yeah.
Need a little assistance with my keeper league.
Oh, by the way, Chris,
do you know who sings the song Reunited
and it feels so good?
I have no idea.
Why don't you take like 30 seconds to think about it
while I eat this?
It's a 10-team half PPR league.
I have the ninth overall pick.
Do I keep Camara in the first, McLaurin in the fifth, or Kyler Murray in the sixth?
10-team half PPR.
I'm keeping Camara.
Yeah, I think it's Camara.
Ninth overall.
Solid value.
The values on Kyler and mclaurin aren't
that great they're good they're just not great so yeah i mean kyler is pretty close to a wash
maybe a slight value in a 10 team league and mclaurin he's probably a fourth rounder in a 10
team right yeah you know just so everybody, there have been a few emails,
including this one, that have had Cam Akers listed
as one of the keeper's choices.
He probably would have been the slam-dunk answer there
in the fifth round.
There have been a few of those.
Cam Akers is just such great keeper value this year.
Sorry.
Yeah, I lost him in
my biggest league.
I lost him in my dynasty league. I lost him in my dynasty league.
Yeah.
I hate to see it.
This is B from a city in the southwest.
Albuquerque.
Hello, some combination of Ron, Brick, Brian, and Champ.
Whammy.
I was talking to my dad the other day.
He doesn't really like Will Ferrell.
I really don't think I can be friends with him anymore.
Does he like when he's drumming for the Red Hot Chili Peppers?
He does like the Chili Peppers.
Great story about my dad.
He got so excited
that, I think I've told this before,
that the Chili Peppers were coming to town.
He's like, we got it. We're buying tickets.
They're playing at Parker Playhouse,
which is a really, really small venue.
Oh my God, no. This happened to Brandon Wise, too,
the combat sports editor for CBS Sports.
Yeah, I'm like, Dad, there's no way they're playing there.
That's this teeny tiny venue for plays.
And he's like, I'm telling you, I went to the website,
this band called the Red Hot Chili Pipers,
a Scottish bagpipe band that must do this to like 10 people a show
but show up in Chili Peppers.
It's a good bit. That's smart.
That's how they sell out
Playhouse.
Start a band called Pearl Gem.
But they don't play. It's not like they do
Chili Pepper songs on bagpipes.
They just call themselves the Red Hot Chili Pipers.
I love it. And they tricked my dad.
But luckily I caught on before we bought tickets.
Okay.
B from Albuquerque drafted a super flex dynasty team, 12 teams.
I'm concerned about long-term quarterback depth.
I've got Tannehill, Cousins, and Bridgewater.
Are you confident enough in Tua that you would trade your first-round rookie pick for him?
No.
The nice thing about, and we kind of saw this with with uh with the
quarterbacks this year is that there is demand for them in super flex rookie drafts but it's not
necessarily like automatically the the best quarterbacks go first second third and then
that's it so i would keep your one you can always draft a rookie quarterback with that pick next year.
And you've got enough to get by this year.
Yeah, it's not like you need a,
it's not like Tannehill cousins especially
are likely to retire at the end of this season.
Yeah, you probably still have two years
at least of productive play.
This is from Jason Cleveland,
a hardcore FFT listener.
And it sounded like I said his name is Jace
and he's in Cleveland,
but his name is Jason Cleveland.
Hey, Vince, Mick, Nicky, and Tommy.
The crew.
Yeah, good job.
I had to look that one up.
I need help deciding on a keeper.
We get two at last year's draft position.
I'm keeping Dobbins in the 10th.
Kelsey in the second or Gaskin in the eighth?
It's Kelsey.
Yeah.
All right.
I think this is our last one from Ryan.
Okay, I thought this was an interesting email.
Ryan says,
I've noticed that when you guys analyze a keeper question,
more often than not,
I disagree with the value you choose based on where someone is kept.
It often seems like people lean towards the better player and don't put enough value on when you can take them as much as they should.
At least this is where I often find myself not agreeing.
I think a good exercise that I'd like to hear would be this.
Provide not just the kept player, but also the other player based on the ADP of the pick that they save.
For example, 12-team half PPR.
I can keep Nick Chubb with a third-round pick
or DJ Moore for a ninth-round pick.
But when comparing,
provide the audience with the two combos
the person has to choose,
not just the player.
So Nick Chubb with player adp of about 114th or like nick chubb
plus a player that's going 114th or dj more plus a player that's going 30th is that do you want me
to back up no i got you maybe because the player that you would take at 114 is where you would
take more or where you would keep more so it's easier if you're reading it in case you lost it.
It's this hypothetical scenario.
I can keep Nick Chubb in the third or DJ Moore in the ninth.
Well,
what,
what our emailer is saying,
what Ryan is saying is we should say,
okay,
so your options are either Nick Chubb in the third plus this ninth round pick
who would be according to ADP,
this guy,
Nick Chubb and Antonio Brown.
Yeah, or DJ Moore and the ninth and whoever's going.
Who?
David Montgomery.
David Montgomery.
I think probably a little higher end than that, though.
No?
Although.
Maybe.
Third round.
Yeah.
Dobbins.
Miles Sanders.
Now, that's a great point.
You could do that type of combo here.
But my question is,
should we not,
if everybody's keeping one player,
should we not drop 12 picks in ADP, basically?
We should.
Okay, so...
And what if it's two players
and you're dropping even more than that?
So really, it's like,
I keep DJ Moore in the ninth
and a fourth round pick
instead of a third, right? Right. And I keep Nick Chubb in the ninth and a fourth round pick instead of a third, right?
And I keep Nick Chubb in the third
and a tenth round pick instead of a ninth round pick.
That's an interesting way to do it.
Yeah, but the reason why
we usually pick the player
who's better is because they're the
better player and you get to start building your team
with them already on your roster.
Yeah.
And the other thing is value doesn't decline linearly during the course of a draft.
You know, it's not like the difference between the first pick and the second pick isn't the
same as the difference between the 11th and the 12th.
Let's say it's just picked to the gap gets smaller with each pick.
That's why ADP matters less.
You know, once you start getting to the fifth, sixth round even,
you can kind of throw ADP out of the window a little bit
because there's a wider range of where players can go
and it's a lot more about personal preference.
And so the one, you know, the reason you tend to value
the more valuable player even with a higher cost is just because
the cost of a third round pick that you can getting a first round caliber player for a third
round pick is just more valuable than getting a fourth round player for a ninth round pick
even if the gap in rounds is larger right and would it be fair to say that if you kept DJ Moore in the ninth
and threw back Nick Chubb, who you could have kept for a third-round pick,
the player you're getting in the third round is not going to be as good as Nick Chubb
because you have all these players who were kept.
Yeah.
And, yeah, that's going to, yeah.
So, actually, now that I think of it, you shouldn't add 12 picks
because if somebody's keeping DJ Moore in the ninth,
that's not really going to factor into
who you're taking in the third round
because he's not going to go ahead of that spot.
No, you'd have to consider players
who were already being drafted in the early rounds.
And so, you know, last year it's, you know, like,
I'm trying to find.
I'm just keeping Chubb.
All right.
Yeah, I mean, Chubb in the third versus Moore in the ninth
is a bigger gap.
That one is, you know,
usually we're not talking about gaps that big.
Usually we're talking about, like,
Kelsey in the second and Gaskin in the eighth,
where, like, Gaskin could be worth nothing. So the fact that youaskin in the eighth where like Gaskin could
be worth nothing so the fact that you got him in the eighth round doesn't really matter
whereas more should be very good at the very least all right thanks everybody thank you for
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