Fantasy Football Today - Derek Carr, Joe Flacco, Tyreek Hill and the Fantasy Cops! (04/14 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

We've got big news from around the NFL starting with Derek Carr's shoulder injury (2:55). What does this mean for Alvin Kamara and Chris Olave? We also talk about the Browns passing game (14:30) now ...that they have signed Joe Flacco. Is Travis Hunter next for this team? ... Another bad headline for Tyreek Hill (22:40) and we talk about his future in Miami and his Fantasy value. We also have some NFL Draft news and rumors plus more from around the NFL ... The Fantasy Cops are back (38:40)! We've got some controversy to sort out ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:23 but we're gonna talk about some news from around the NFL, take a little away from the NFL draft, but we're going to talk about some news from around the NFL. Take a little pause from our draft prep. Welcome to the show. It is fantasy football today on Monday, April 14th. The gang is here, Adam, Dave, Heath and Jamie. And we got Derek Carr, maybe going to miss the whole season. We got Joe Flacco going back to Cleveland where he was absolutely ridiculous in a five
Starting point is 00:01:42 game stretch to finish the year two seasons ago. We got Tyreek Hill being involved in some type of domestic disturbance. And now I see a lot of talk of like, should they trade Tyreek Hill? Maybe that'll be a draft day stunner. Anyway, how about the Masters guys? Did you guys watch the Masters to finish?
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Starting point is 00:02:29 Very good. Alright, Joe Flacco. Just to let you know, he scored 20.2 or more fantasy points in five of six starts for the Cleveland Browns. All five of his regular season starts. He averaged 41 past attempts per game and was the number two quarterback
Starting point is 00:02:44 per game in six point for passing touchdown leagues a couple of years ago. Number five per game in four point. Let's start with the Saints. Dave, what's your reaction to this news that Derek Carr has a shoulder injury that could put his 2025 season in jeopardy? The reaction is that it sucks for the Saints. It sucks for Chris Olave.
Starting point is 00:03:00 It sucks for everybody that's going to catch passes there. Huge question mark on what they'll do a quarterback. Uh, I did a little digging to see what quarterbacks are out there. That Kellen Moore's worked with that could come in and just, you know, in a pinch, if they don't draft the quarterback, they could, they could use cause they know Kellen Moore and they know what he wants from the offense. Uh, the names aren't great. It's it's Kenny Pickett. It's Will Greer. It's the offense. Uh, the names aren't great. It's it's Kenny Pickett.
Starting point is 00:03:25 It's Will Greer. It's Cooper Rush. Uh, it's Andy Dalton. All those guys are already on teams. Ben Denucci is on the Saints roster. He worked with Kellen Moore once upon a time. That ain't the answer either. I think the door's wide open for them to take a quarterback at
Starting point is 00:03:40 number nine in this draft. And I, it's going to make me feel a lot worse about taking Chris Olave in fantasy drafts this summer. All right. Heath, your reaction? I don't know. I was just trying to go through this morning and I haven't got it finished. I, I'm going to try, uh, maybe finish it here during the show, but
Starting point is 00:04:02 does Derek Carr really been a huge boost to Chris Olavi in his career? Well, nobody can get worse like as well. I mean, his best yardage game last year was with Spencer Rattler. Yeah, he did have, I was going to say it one game without Derek Carr last year. Chris Olavi had what? 107 yards. Was it, um, he had, uh, yeah had eight catches for 107 yards on 14 targets. No Rashid Shahid in that game. Spencer Rattler and Jay Kainer threw for 278 yards on 41 pass attempts.
Starting point is 00:04:35 So it's hard to say. You know, he played without Derek Carr a little bit in 2023. car a little bit in 2023. And he had a 37.8% target share, Chris Olave with Jameis Winston, that was on only 51 snaps 46 routes. That was with Jameis. So I don't know what to make of it. But do you feel Heath like over a full season of Spencer Rattler or maybe it should or Sanders. They have the ninth pick. Like don't you think, do you think that their quarterback situation this year is going to be worse than Derek Carr?
Starting point is 00:05:13 I don't know that it will be noticeably worse for Chris Alave. I don't think it's gonna be better probably. I think it probably depends also, are you talking about the Chris Alave that for the last three seasons, we all believe the talent means that he should produce like, or are you talking about the guy who like generally has a thousand to 1100 yards and scores four or five touchdowns?
Starting point is 00:05:38 I think he could definitely do that. I don't think he's necessarily going to be worse than what he's been. It's just, maybe you don't project the big leap that we've kind of been projecting now for three years. Well, as a rookie, he was wide receiver 27 per game. As a sophomore in 2023, he was wide receiver 21 per game. Jamie? No, I think that's a fair assessment.
Starting point is 00:05:59 You know, if the quarterback play is not a dramatic fall off from Derek Carr, which is hard to expect these guys to be as good as Carr, but will they be that far off from what his average play has been for a good portion of his time in New Orleans? I think he's on something there. Chris Olavi probably is just who he is without better quarterback. You know, the hope would be, the hope was, and maybe still is, that Kellen Moore comes in and features him to a point where he could take that leap
Starting point is 00:06:33 and could be that guy that we've been waiting for and could be that must-art fantasy receiver that we've been hyping up for basically his entire career. He also has to stay healthy. They add to somebody in Brandon Cooks who, from whoever it's worth is going to steal some targets. I do think that the hope would be is that it's probably Sanders as opposed to Rattler, and you see some potential upside there. They've been speaking very highly of Spencer Rattler. I wonder if Taysom Hill gets healthy, what kind of role he'll play, but let's not go down that path. In any event, they'll probably sign somebody.
Starting point is 00:07:07 One of our colleagues was on Good Morning Football this morning in Logan Ryan, and he was suggesting Teddy Bridgewater, just in terms of a veteran who'd come in and maybe give them some semblance of a player that could maybe still be somewhat of a playmaker. But my guess is they go the young route, whether it's drafting Sanders or somebody else and letting Rattler compete and it's, it's a total rebuild there. I mean, this team is awful. And this might help push them towards that total rebuild too.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Cause they've just been trying for the last five years to just keep it alive by pushing salary into the future and pushing salary into the future. Just for reference kind of car in New Orleans has played 27 games. He's averaged 223 passing yards per game and 25 past touchdowns for 17 games. Yeah. Would it be crazy if a rookie quarterback hit that? No. Could Chedur Sanders hit that? I think he could. Dark could hit that. It's just a shame that this happens when they have the ninth pick in the draft.
Starting point is 00:08:09 It's just such a bad quarterback draft. If they don't get Sanders in round one, you know, I don't know that this crop of quarterbacks is gonna be better than what Derek Carr has been. Well, you probably, you know, if you don't think that Sanders is the answer, then you take best player available at nine and you just push it back to 2026.
Starting point is 00:08:30 When you're probably going to be in the top three, you know, if this team goes in the direction that's headed and it's a much better quarterback class last year, and maybe you have a legacy play for Arch Manning. So what, oh, how about that? So what do you guys think about Alvin Kamara? I'll give you some quick numbers on Alvin Kamara. He played four games without Derek Carr
Starting point is 00:08:47 and was pretty good. He scored 17 to 18.2 PPR fantasy points in three or four games. But I think there's some troubling numbers that he rushed for fewer than 40 yards or 40 or fewer yards in three of the four games. And his 17 game pace like he actually left one of the games early with an injury as a crease score like
Starting point is 00:09:08 17 points in half the snaps against Washington and that was a season ending injury for for Camara but just not a lot of yards basically a ton of targets didn't really have a lobby on the field a lot didn't have Shahid on the field a lot for what it's worth but it was all catches really nothing special other than that what do you guys think about Kamara? Would you still take them in the first four rounds if Derek Carr is out for the season? Yes. Yep. Round four though. I probably will not downgrade any Saints at this point. Just I generally if there's not a quarterback, I project a pretty close to a league average
Starting point is 00:09:43 quarterback and Derek Carr has been pretty close to an average quarterback. Now, if we find out for sure that it's definitely going to be somebody we think is definitely below average, then maybe there's a small tick downward. Yeah, I'd have to go to the entire draft without taking somebody. I'd be pretty afraid of Alvin Kamara. I guess I'm in the minority here. But like, as I've said so many times, I love Kamara from a fantasy standpoint, but he's not a good running back anymore. He never makes a big play. And if he's on one of the worst teams in football, I guess that's good because they'll just keep
Starting point is 00:10:13 throwing to him. But I just, I don't know. I see it. Isn't the discount already built in in round four though? Like you're talking about a guy that's a top 10 running back every single year. And we're like, okay, I guess we'll draft him in round four. It feels like we've already discounted him. He's also 30 with a new coach again. And I did speak to Kellen Moore at the league meetings about, you know, are you going to manage his workload because of his age? And he basically
Starting point is 00:10:40 gave the coach big answer. But you know, the thing that he said, which sort of stood out to me a little bit was, you just manage it as the year goes on. And so the receptions, I think, are safe. He just kind of has done this year over year throughout his entire career. So you're figuring 65 to 70 catches, I think is probably easy, if not more. The bigger issue is, and I think this is where your concern probably comes in, Adam, is will he score touchdowns? Yeah. And so on a team that's this bad, so half PPR, non PPR, clearly he loses, but in full
Starting point is 00:11:12 PPR, I mean, he's basically, you're drafting a receiver who plays that position. And so hopefully he just continues to have that role. I mean, I'm going to be concerned, obviously, you know how I feel about guys that are this age, but I think he said it, you know, the discount's already sort of built in. If we weren't concerned, he'd said it, you know, the discounts already sort of built in. If we weren't concerned, he'd be around Tupac. And they've been bottom half of the league in scoring three of the last four seasons,
Starting point is 00:11:33 and they were 24th last year. And he was- He's been on bad offenses. Yeah, and he was the only, of all the running backs who finished top 12, Kamara's offense was the lowest scoring. Here, I'm just gonna read from my notes. In full PPR, the number of top 12 running backs
Starting point is 00:11:53 who were on offenses ranked 20th or worse over the past nine seasons is one, three, three, four, three, four, one, four, three. So we almost always get three or four running backs who finish in the top 12 on an offense that's 20th or worse in scoring. I'm concerned about that being 30th or worse in scoring. That's my issue.
Starting point is 00:12:15 It's like, it's a big difference between being 24th and being one of the worst in football. But Camaro is a unique case, obviously, because he racks up all those catches. It's also, again, you know, a better offensive mind at the top of the, you know, the, the, the head coach is going to be better, you know, so you hope that that sort of, you know, carry some influence on the entire offense.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And so you're going to think about Kamara versus guys like Chuba Hubbard, David Montgomery, James Connor, Kenneth Walker is going to be one where I think I might tilt toward Walker now, whereas before I was down with Alvin. But that's the range of running backs that I think he'll be in. And if you heard those names and you go, oh yeah, I'll definitely take those guys ahead of Kamara, then you've made your decision. You're not going to take them. You're not going to get them. He won't be a top 50 pick for you, but I would imagine that in full PPR, he will end up being somebody a top 50 pick for you. But I would imagine that in full PPR, he will end up being
Starting point is 00:13:05 somebody's top 50 pick. Okay. All right. And that will do it for the Saints. We're going to take a break, come back and talk about the Cleveland Browns. We also have the fantasy cops and we have your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Oh, we got a good fantasy cops, by the way, for you today. We'll be right back on fantasy football today. The Cleveland Browns are almost on the clock. They have the second pick in the draft after Tennessee and they have signed a quarterback Joe Flacco one year, $4 million could be worth up to $13 million. He is 40 years old. And in the last two seasons, he has been terrific for wide receivers. Like Josh Downs was on pace for I think 123 catches with Joe Flacco.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Amari Cooper, David Njokwu, Amari Cooper was on pace for 99 catches, 1,850 yards and 10 touchdowns on 160 targets in six games with Joe Flacco. Well, actually five games, as he missed one of those games. David Njokwu was on pace for 105 catches, 1,369 yards, 11 touchdowns on 159 targets in six games with Joe Flacco two years ago. Heath, what do you think about Flacco back to the Browns? If they would announce Joe Flacco as their starter for the season, this would be great
Starting point is 00:14:20 for Jerry, Judy and David Ndjoku. I'm taking a little bit more cautious approach right now because they obviously have the draft capital to do something different. And they didn't give Joe Flacco like anything close to starting quarterback money. It's kind of low in backup money. So I'm not there yet,
Starting point is 00:14:38 but this could be fantastic news for both Judy and Joku. Yes, they also have Kenny Pickett who they acquired from the Eagles for a fifth round pick, and they also traded Dorian Thompson Robinson in that deal. All right, so, you know, is this exciting? I also want to bring up the name Cedric Tillman because there's a pretty big difference in Jerry Judy's numbers with Tillman and without Tillman, and I think Najoku as well,
Starting point is 00:15:01 with Tillman and without Tillman. It's kind of a little bit of a crowded receiving core if Tillman is a factor and he was about to get a lot more crowded. Exactly. They're about to get Travis Hunter at all likelihood. All right. So Jamie, break down the Browns for me and what you think of their passing game. Well, I mean, clearly right now it's great for Njoku and Judy, but this this almost signals and you know, stuff that you're coming out of the meetings is that they were not going to take a quarterback at two and that Travis Hunter is most likely
Starting point is 00:15:30 to pick. I mean, Adam Schafter reported this as well, that this is the direction they're probably heading. So my guess is they're going to play a mat receiver. And if that's the case, then you're looking at a pretty solid group with Hunter, Judy, and Nijoku and Tillman. It's pretty impressive if Hunter's as good as advertised. And so this is a great situation for Flacco.
Starting point is 00:15:51 I think the bigger thing is, A, do they allow Kenny Pickett to compete for the job? Because does his pedigree and maybe what he showed in the two basic starts that he had last year for the Eagles Give him a chance to you know legitimately win the starting job clearly Flacco was great for Stefanski leading in the playoffs getting comeback player of the year going four and one in those five starts They got blasted by the Texans in 2023, but I don't know how much of that was specifically just Flacco's fault He didn't have the greatest playoff game, but still he was you know, he threw for over 300 yards and for those five starts so the greatest playoff game, but still he was, you know, he threw for over 300 yards and for those five starts. So the, the, the second part of this though, is they have the 33rd pick and they already brought in three guys for their top 30 visits in Dart, Milro and Shao Shao.
Starting point is 00:16:36 How do you say it? Chuck Chuck Chuck. No. So they brought in those three guys and do they go that route? You know, uh, you know, you heard some things that they also kind of are interested in column court as well. So they brought in those three guys and do they go that route? You heard some things that they also kind of are interested in column court as well. So if there's some other rookie quarterback brought in at some point, then it makes it even tougher to say Flacco is going to be the guy.
Starting point is 00:16:58 But I think week one, he's probably going to be the starter if they don't take somebody at two or they don't trade back into the first round if they take Hunter or Abdul Carter or two. I would guess that this is a good spot for Flacco. So if he's out there in any sort of dynasty league where you can make add drops, especially Super Flex, you should make sure you go get him. They can also trade up from 33. If they're willing to dangle their first round or next year, they might be able to get in front of New Orleans. If there's a team that's willing to fall that far back in this year's draft, which there might be in the top 10, and they could potentially get Hunter and Chador together.
Starting point is 00:17:37 And that combo worked pretty well in Colorado. It would be fun if that's what they ended up doing there. But at 33, I would imagine Dart will go around that range. He might go a little bit before. Those other quarterbacks will definitely be there, right about there. Milro especially. The other ones could fall a little bit further back. And if they do draft a quarterback, well, now their quarterback room is Pickett, Flacco, and this rookie. The more draft capital they put in the rookie, I don't know why they need both of those veterans. Maybe they end up trading one of them. I would keep Flacco around because he's got experience.
Starting point is 00:18:09 He could help the rookie quarterback and he could also start the season under center for Cleveland. But if it just turns out where Joe Flacco is the quarterback and their backup plan is Pickett or whatever, A, that's kind of an indictment on Pickett. But B, it would be bombs away for all the past catchers that are there. Hunter would be, would he be my favorite over Judy? Probably not, but it's really close between those two.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I would take Travis Hunter over a lot of as things stand right now. As, um, just a funny aside, Joe Flacco, the last two seasons, his 17 game pace over 13 games is 4,400 yards and 33 touchdowns, which would be the best season of Derek Carr's career. And that includes a game where he did not throw a pass. So the averages are actually even better than that. But he also, this is the same thing with Jamis. Like Flacco and Jamis, they take over for brief stretches, they throw 40 times a game. You know, he threw 40 40.8 times per game with
Starting point is 00:19:10 Cleveland in in 2023. 37 pass attempts per game with the Colts last year, which is a lot. Four starts with the Jets in 2022. He averaged 47 pass attempts per game. So I don't understand what that is all about. But like, you go back to 2020. I can tell you exactly what that's all about. No, I mean, 2020, he made four starts with the Jets. He averaged 33 pass attempts per game.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And he was on pace for 3,600 yards and 26 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. And also the thing with these guys, Jamis and Flacco in particular, it's wonderful, it's great for fantasy. They throw a lot of interceptions. And as soon as that happens, the coaches get tired of it and they and they'll bench them, you know, so not I mean, not necessarily, but they could bench them as coaches. I think that's why this move makes some sense a little bit differently than,
Starting point is 00:19:59 you know, if you want to say Jamis to the Giants, that was going to be the starting option. Stefanski knows him. Like this is, this is a reunion of a guy that had pretty significant success in a short period of time. You mean their, their, their season was sunk in 2023. He comes off his couch, he goes four and one, right. And they make the playoffs. And I don't think it's fair to put his interceptions like he's nowhere close to Jamis in that regard.
Starting point is 00:20:22 He had one season and it was five games basically with the Browns where he threw at a 3.9% interception rate, which is way too high. But his career is 2.4 and he was 2.8 last year and he doesn't have a year over three besides those five games with Cleveland since 2013. So Joe Flacco has not really been a high interception guy except for those five games with Cleveland. Do you have an interception rate for Winston Heath? It's a lot. It's in the triple digits.
Starting point is 00:20:51 How much more is it than Flacco's? I'm curious. So careers 3.5. So a full point higher the last three seasons, 4.3, 6.4, 4.1. That's really bad. 6.4, 4.1. That's really bad. 6.4. All right. I think this is gonna be,
Starting point is 00:21:07 we're gonna talk about the Browns, I think, on our next show, because it's gonna be NFL veterans who have a lot to lose or gain after the NFL draft. And when, if they draft Travis Hunter, what is that going to mean for Jerry Judy, for David Najoku, et cetera? And Dean in our chat is adamant.
Starting point is 00:21:25 He is all caps saying that Browns are not taking Hunter. I guarantee the Browns take Abdul Carter. All right, Dean, I don't know what you know that nobody else knows, but the reporting is that they are zeroing in on Travis Hunter. Our next news item is about Tyreek Hill. So police were called to Tyreek Hill's house for a domestic disturbance.
Starting point is 00:21:46 No charges were filed, which is good. But you know, there's, you guys are in South Florida. I just was reading the Miami Herald. I saw a few things online. There's a little bit of a backlash here and wondering if it's now is the time to just cut bait and try to trade Tyreek Hill, who obviously has been unhappy.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Said he wanted out, then they made up or whatever. But Jamie, the Dolphins, wide he wanted out, then they made up or whatever. But Jamie, the Dolphins wide receivers right now, your thoughts? I would imagine they're taking calls, you know, but it's hard to say that someone is going to A, pay his contract, B, put up with the receiver that's 31, and now has some legal issues which you know for whatever it's worth you know he hasn't been arrested you know there's no charges been filed so but is in the news for the wrong reasons you know so I think you know what you're getting with him you're still getting a what I would hope is
Starting point is 00:22:38 still a quality playmaker you know I mean his his down season last year is still better than most in the league, but it's a lot to deal with, a lot of baggage. Especially for what the Dolphins are probably going to be asking for, they're not just going to give them away, but we've seen this before. You go back through Randy Moss all the way to today. Star receivers don't always go for high price tags. Randy Moss traded for a fourth round pick. It may not take much to get him, but you're going to have to pay that salary. So I think if you're looking at the Dolphins perspective, clearly, and we addressed this when we had one of our mock drafts, the Jalen Waddle value, how much it would probably skyrocket.
Starting point is 00:23:18 John Smith's value would skyrocket. And then just at this point, you're looking at Nick Westbrook, Hakeen A, and Malik Washington as the potential number two or number three. Um, those guys would have some interest, assuming the dolphins don't go in the draft and, and, you know, replace him with someone. So there's a lot of moving parts at this point. I think just from Tyree's perspective on its own, you had to treat him as a number two receiver at this point.
Starting point is 00:23:40 You know, I don't think you should be drafting him as a, I leave me a low end number one high end number two, you know two. He goes from arguably the number one receiver a year ago going into the season to someone who's really fallen off. I'm sure Heath can address this. Like he said at several points throughout the end of last year in this off season, when a receiver starts to show you that he's starting to slip, you might want to just buy into who he is at this point. For his age and what he showed, you could say the wrist injury, you could say, obviously, two, a missing six games, all those things have to factor in. But Tyree's best days are probably behind him. Well, if we don't just want to compare some 17 game paces here, played
Starting point is 00:24:17 11 games with two last year, he played 17 games with two the year before. And let's look at the difference, just the two games. 2023, 171 targets. Actually, I'm sorry, this was 16 games. So I'm comparing 17 game pace in 2024 with 16 games in 2023. 171 targets to 134 targets, 119 catches down to 87. 1800 yards down to 1073 yards, 13 touchdowns down to nine touchdowns. Just so much different.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And really, what really stands out is the target share because John who became a big factor they threw to A-chan so much. 23.1% target per route run rate, 21.6% target share with Tuah last year. The year before that, he missed the game and he had a 31% target share. So they just didn't throw to him as much. And they reconfigure their whole offense. But did they do that because they wanted to? Or did they do that because Tyree kill was hurt in training camp?
Starting point is 00:25:16 I think they did that to protect Tua. They knew they had a weak offensive line and a quarterback that they wanted to keep on the field. So getting the ball out of his hand as fast as possible was really a goal of theirs. They did that two years ago also though. That's the thing. I guess I think it said three years in a row, if not two or three years in a row, they've led the league in the fastest release time for their quarterback.
Starting point is 00:25:38 He gets rid of the ball quicker than any other quarterback. Since Mike McDaniel came on board. Right. And, and, and two of those years, you had a 1700 yard receiver in Tyree Kill. So I know that they can produce this elite receiver while getting the ball out quickly, but the A-dot was much lower for Tuah in 2024. And he was throwing it at A-chan,
Starting point is 00:25:58 and he was throwing it at John who Smith. It wasn't just Tyree. What was Tyree's A-dot? 11.4, which was higher than the year before. Right. It was really the target share and the target per round. Yeah. Target per round run rate was just... I mean, you know, look, in Tyreeks' defense, you mentioned Adam, he was hurt in training camp. You know, he had some sort of wrist procedure after the season, or at least, you
Starting point is 00:26:19 know, different reports. He's been seen with some sort of cast or something on his on his wrist in some of the photos. I'm sure the arrest when he was you know put in handcuffs that that's you know been documented as well that that probably didn't help the situation also and and then you have the two out the four games comes back misses the final two with the hip injury. Um, it's, it's also, you know, the, the two seasons prior, HN wasn't who he became, especially as a pass catcher. They didn't throw the running backs as much. They did not have the same type of production from their tight ends, you know, and still wattle was up and down, but obviously wattle was a better player.
Starting point is 00:26:56 So now they have different options to use. And I think that's kind of where Mike McDaniel wanted to eventually get to, which is why he sort of, you know, retooled some of the things that they were doing. It's a matter of can he ever get back to being this superstar, fantasy-wise? And I just don't know at his age if that's realistic. Now you've talked about this a lot. He still gets open. He still shows the ability to make people miss and find ways to clearly win know, clearly when the ball's in his hands,
Starting point is 00:27:25 he's going to be dangerous. But if that speed slips to any degree, he's not going to dominate you with his size. We know that. And so if there's not going to be a lot of off-script plays, because that's not what the Dolphins do, they certainly don't want to put two in those situations. Mike Medeiros talked about that, you know, in terms of how Tua got hurt last year running into Damar Hamlin and trying to make a play. He's got to be smarter.
Starting point is 00:27:50 We know this is going to be a very unscheduled rhythm offense that if Tyree's targets are disappearing to some extent, it's terrifying. You'll still probably get a very good fantasy receiver if you draft him at the right price. It's a matter of, to me, the two most difficult people I think to draft and to rank, at least right now, are Christian McCaffrey and Tyree Kil. Because you know what they are when they're great, but can they be great again? I feel more comfortable with McCaffrey at this point. Tyree is starting to scare me more and more every time we talk about it. And I think especially with like, we got five months until real football.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And I talk about this with veterans a lot, like there's a chance that they lose value before they play another game again. So if you're going to buy in dynasty this time of year, you want to buy at a discount. But Tyreek, while Jamie's right, he's not as far as I know, facing any charges or anything from this most recent incident. It's just a reminder that this has been a theme that's run throughout, even before he was in the NFL interactions with law enforcement and poor decisions. And there's a higher risk for Tyree kill.
Starting point is 00:28:57 I don't think it's like stretching to say this, that something else happens to crush his value in the next five months. Yeah. And if he stays on the dolphins, I'm sorry, if he stays on the dolphins, you just have to wonder that is such a volatile situation. When does he just say, forget it? Like I'm sitting, I'm holding out, whatever it may be. I hope he finds a new place because it's a toxic situation. It would not be shocking if we get one of these draft day trades of Tyree Kill for something that like I can't believe they gave him up for that.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah. And I just for the record, you know, I do think he still gets open. I mean, I watched a lot of the tape. I showed it on Beyond the Box score with some screenshots and stuff, but also ESPN Analytics, they have the open score for every receiver that's relevant, basically, and he was eighth, he had the same number that 82 out of 100, the same number, I think it was 83 in 2023 was 82. He's been the top eight in that metric two straight years. So the one place he did kind of fall off last year that I wouldn't think would be related to the wrist unless he was just
Starting point is 00:30:03 trying to avoid contact. It was his lowest yak per reception season of his career. 3.6 yards after catch per reception is not fantastic, especially if a team's trying to throw more short targets and have more yak in their offense. Chicago and Seattle have two second round picks. You think one of them gives up one of their picks for Tyreke? I can't see Chicago doing it. That's what their cap situation is. I mean, it's a big number you have to carry. It's a huge number for the next two years and then he's free. I don't think the dolphins get a second
Starting point is 00:30:37 if they don't eat some of that contract. Oh, they'd have to. Ooh, Johnny says, Oh, and Buffalo has two twos as well. Tyreek for a third and a ham sandwich. I just want to say I had a ham and cheese omelet yesterday was one of the best omelets I've ever had. Oh, man was so Oh, just hit the spot was really hungry.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Had some home fries with it. But this was just a legendary omelet. I'm going to keep eating these. I'm going to have a couple more this week. All right. Some more news items for you here. Just real quick. All signs pointing to Tennessee drafting Cam Ward and Chador Sanders not being a top three pick right now. Things we always get surprises in the draft, but it looks like- Top four. You could extend that to top four. Patriots aren't going to take him before, but maybe the team will trade up. Sean McVeigh said, Tutu Atwell will be on the field a lot more in 2025.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Is this fantasy relevant guys, either for Atwell or for Nikua or Devonte Adams? So I was there when he was asked about this and it was a very honest answer from McVeigh and he's usually pretty honest with this. The question was, basically why did you sign this guy to a $10 million deal? And it seems like you haven't really justified using it.
Starting point is 00:31:50 He's like, yeah, fans are right. I haven't done a good job of getting him the ball enough. He brought up his 17-game pace of what he was when Cooper Cup was out and Puko was out the start of the season. I don't think it's going to matter yet, but I would not be surprised if they force the ball to him a few more times. And you are talking about Devontae Adams at 32 and Pukunakua, who's proven to be a little bit injury prone going back to college and what we saw last year. So if one of those two guys, certainly as we saw last year, two
Starting point is 00:32:18 guys went down for them, then there's an opportunity for maybe him to get a little bit of a big role. Remember, Demarcus Robinson is now gone. So there's an opportunity for him to make some plays. You know, I think if you're in a very deep league, super flexed, I'm sorry, Scott Fishbowl type of situation, you know, where you're looking for a home run type of play, certainly best ball. He could have some, some big plays and make some, uh, have some opportunities, but I don't think it's going to necessarily deviate from what the Rams have been you know they they focus on one two guys I don't think it's gonna be all of a sudden you know to to at well and maybe a
Starting point is 00:32:51 little bit more from whatever else so it was just a very interesting I guess the whole answer if you want it was it was kind of it Kyler Murray what he rushed for about 580 yards last year something I don't know if somebody has that he says he wants to run more he said he felt something in his surgically repaired knee early last season and he wants to run more in 2025. We just talked about this. I feel I think he had a high yards per carry but didn't run that much. He wants to run more in 2025. Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray, M.D. It was the we talked about the last week because it was the comment from Murray. That was the we talked about the last week because it was the comment from Brian Schottenheimer who the Cowboys signed Clayton Adams and he was talking about DAC. The question
Starting point is 00:33:30 was I went back and listened to the whole thing for Schottenheimer that he was asked the question about DAC running more. Can he still be a playmaker with his legs coming off the hamstring injury? And he said you don't necessarily have to run more. You know, Clayton Adams said that Kyler would come to games and say he doesn't want to run more and just the clip that he said kind of made some headlines. So I'm glad that Kyler says that that certainly helps his fantasy value immensely if he's going to be more of a runner. He had a career low in rush attempts per game, 4.6 career high in rushing average at 7.3.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Right. Right. So if he keeps that average up and he runs more, you know what that means. That's a good thing. He talked about Marvin Harrison too. He did an interview with one of the reporters out in Arizona and talked about how it took Marvin a very long time to really get acclimated. And you know, he's a good teammate and he thinks that Marvin's going to be, you know, much more acclimated and much more explosive in the second season. So that was, it's an interesting interview to go back and listen to if you've got the time.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Dak Prescott said he's, you know, doing well. He could play today if he had to. He's recovering from a hamstring injury, hamstring surgery. Texas wide receiver Isaiah Bond is a guy we basically skipped over, which is my fault on last week's wide receiver preview. He was arrested on sexual assault charges. So that's not news we wanna see, obviously. Bad situation there, Isaiah Bond. Drew Locke, quarterback signing with Seattle. Two year, five million dollar deal. He'll be a backup to Sam Darnold.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Chicago signed slot cornerback Kyler Gordon to a three year, 40 million dollar extension with 31.25 million guaranteed. And cornerback Patrick Peterson, an absolute legend, great player. He is retiring. If you want more draft coverage, we'll have some for you later this week
Starting point is 00:35:14 and then next week, obviously leading into the draft, but also check out the With the First Pick podcast. They do a phenomenal job breaking everything down and check out FFT Dynasty. You're gonna hear fantasy experts from around the industry talking about their favorite prospects and their least favorite prospects. We'll be right back with the fantasy cops and I'm learning about what a Denver omelet is after this. Welcome back everybody. Okay, so following up on the omelet, Johnny says Denver omelets for the win. This is the guy who brought up the ham sandwich. I've never heard of a Denver omelet.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Have you guys? Have you've never, have you been to a diner in your I've never heard of a Denver omelet. Have you guys? Have you been to a diner in your life? I've seen a Western omelet. I don't think I've ever seen a Denver omelet. It looks like the same thing as a Western omelet. Eggs, bell peppers, onions, ham, and often cheese. Yes. Denver omelet, I'm gonna, let's see, Denver omelet versus Western omelet.
Starting point is 00:36:05 The Denver. Oh, okay. They're the same. Yeah. I don't need the, I don't need the peppers. I hate bell peppers. Bell peppers are crap. I love bell peppers.
Starting point is 00:36:15 You would. Your favorite food is a tomato. They're really good for you too. Like you're always complaining about me eating too much meat and how it's bad for my health and you want to eat some bell peppers, which are fantastic for you. Well, I had ham yesterday. That's really bad for you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Let's get to a fantasy cops. Here we go. This is the fantasy cops music. Oh yeah. Fantasy cops time. This one is from... No name. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:50 We have a 10 team dynasty league. League is going on five years now. It's made up of two of my brothers, three brothers-in-law, and the rest are friends. We recently had an egregious trade dispute that has caused havoc in the league. My brother, who is a casual fantasy player, has to be reminded to check his messages constantly.
Starting point is 00:37:10 He doesn't respond to trades and has to be called out on the public message board in order to get him to respond. I had two other members of the league message me privately to kindly remind my brother to check his pending trade transactions. For whatever reason, he simply went in and accepted all the pending trades. Two of them.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Here were the two transactions. Number one is between my brother and guy A. My brother gives up these picks in 2025. 1.5, 1.9, 2.6, 3.2, and 3.5. So five overall picks, including two first rounders. He gets Pitz, Bateman, Olave, Brian Robinson and Zay Flowers. To be honest, this wasn't a bad trade and isn't the primary one that's in dispute. Transaction two is between my brother and Guy B. My brother sends Marvin Harrison Jr. Guy B sends Tyreek Hill.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Transaction two sent the league into an uproar. Harrison for Tyreek, are you kidding me? Also, Guy B sends atrocious trades like this all the time and I frequently get complaints from other members at how lopsided his offers are. Additionally, Guy B. Are you on the same team? Ha ha ha. Guy B had completely forgotten
Starting point is 00:38:22 that he even sent the trade a month ago. He couldn't believe that my brother accepted it and was all giddy and happy because he had just gotten away with giving up Tyree Kill to get Marvin Harrison Jr. in a dynasty league. All right, here we go. I immediately sent my brother a text to ask what he was thinking. He responded by saying that he had transaction one all mixed up and he thought he was the one getting the picks.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And then I asked about transaction two, and he responded by saying that he's been working 13 hour days and just wasn't thinking straight. So with everyone in the league upset, specifically about the Tyreek for Harrison trade, and the fact that my brother was not thinking straight and was showing remorse, I made the commissioners decision to reverse both of the trades until it could be reassessed by all three parties I made my brother post a public message explaining why he accepted those trades and that he did not and that he did want them
Starting point is 00:39:14 Reversed until he could think about it more Well, what do you guys think happened as a result? Guy B lost it. He doesn't want the trade reviewed, reversed, or reassessed. A trade could- Of course. Right. I explained that the trade can still stand if both parties are willing. It's just that I wanted a more thorough
Starting point is 00:39:32 and fair explanation from both sides. I also put up an anonymous poll asking the league if the trade should stand and the majority voted that they should not. So in the end, I let democracy rule by letting the league vote on it. Guy B has now left the league and says he knows wants no part in leagues that review trades. He's in one other redraft league of mine, which I think he's going to
Starting point is 00:39:54 league also leave also. I'll leave it there. Heath is going to say I'm the worst commissioner in the world that is going to side with Guy B. I will take it. What do you all think of this? in the world that is going to side with guy B, I will take it. What do you all think of this? I mean, it's not the worst commissioner in the world, but I don't know what the reasoning for over like this first one, if your brother-in-law or brother says, I thought I was getting the other side of the trade, I didn't want to do that. Generally, I think we all agree. If somebody says after they make a trade, oops,
Starting point is 00:40:28 I didn't mean to do that, we reverse it. I would amend that though to immediately, you have to be like, oops, I made a mistake. He didn't bring that up until he was asked about it. Fair. You know? By the way, is Tyree Kill for Marvin jr. That bad of a trade. I Was gonna ask like is dynasty league is is the brothers team have a chance to win
Starting point is 00:40:55 Not anymore So yeah, I mean he's got a pretty significant influx of talent whether you like those players or not Yeah, apparently to rookies. So well, but that's the thing that they reversed the pick. If he reversed the picks trade and he gets Tyree kill, then it makes no sense at all. Right. I've got Marvin Harrison, like 20 spots higher than Tyree kill in my dynasty wide receiver rankings.
Starting point is 00:41:20 So yeah, I think it's a big gap, but I would not even begin to consider reversing that if it went through in one of my leagues. Right? Yeah. It is a big gap, but it's also one that's based on projections. And you could totally see a scenario where Tyree Kill has a much better year than Marvin Harrison this year. And then maybe Marvin, like maybe Marvin's a bust.
Starting point is 00:41:44 What do we get? Just, just because he was the fourth pick in the draft? You know what I mean? It's not that egregious. If you were anticipating being a contender, you'd rather have Tyree Kill than Marvin Harrison. Yeah. We just got done explaining why Tyree Kill might not be so good for fantasy. I'm not sure if I agree with that. but his, his down season may be the best season of Marvin Harrison's young career. Well, Dave, but I might take the chance on Mark. I mean, I just, you rather have her at some point versus Tyree kill potentially being on the downswing.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yeah, I agree. But I it's justifiable if you're competing now. Okay. So what do we do about this league where Guy B has left the league? Well, it's too late now I be replaced But I think you got to ask the brother does he even really want to play in this, right? That's the thing if he's not paying attention and he's just hitting yes. Yes. Yes, like This isn't Jim Carrey and
Starting point is 00:42:39 What was it where he was playing God and he just said yes on all the prayers Oh What was the name he was playing God and he just said yes on all the prayers. Um, Oh, what was the name of that movie? Ace Ventura, a pet detective. No, it was. Why can't I think of it? Um, anyway, uh, he, uh, Bruce Almighty, he's got to pay attention. I mean, that's part of it.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Hey, can't have so many things up a question that you guys can help me with. Because I've been putting this conversation off for over a year in one of my leagues. Don't say anybody's name guys. That question of do you want to still be in the league? What's the way to ask that as a commissioner without sounding like the biggest jerk in the history of fantasy football? Oh, you just say, hey, you haven't been active in anything but the draft and paying, which we appreciate. But is this something that you're doing because you want to participate or just because you've been doing it year over year? I don't want to force you to do something you don't want to do. Yeah, you just ask them,
Starting point is 00:43:43 you in for this year? You sure? Okay. But they always say yes. They say yes and they pay. There's nothing you can do. Yeah, there's nothing you can do. Well, you can't kick people out of a league. One of the things that he said in there, like, I'm running this league like a democracy.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And that's not the way that I think fantasy football really works. No, because that's the thing. There is a commissioner that's in charge. You're right, Heath. Everyone was pissed about the trade. So of course they voted to overturn the trade. That's not the thing. Everyone was pissed. There is a commissioner that's in charge. You're right Heath. Everyone was pissed about the trade. So of course they voted to overturn the trade. That's not the reason that that's not, that's one of the worst things you did was.
Starting point is 00:44:11 You gotta laugh at the, I posted the poll anonymously. Well, I mean. Oh, did he? No, that's the thing. If everyone's all upset about the trade, of course, they're going to vote that way, but you've got to be the commissioner and establish rules here. I don't think you should have overturned the Tyreke for Harrison one. No, I don't know. I guess I wouldn't have overturned either of them.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And I wonder if it wasn't his brother. What do you have the same conversations with the manager? Because he could be like, like, what are you doing to your brother, your best friend? If it's just like some random person that's in the league with you that you know, like, I don't think Adam's reaching out to our British contingent and saying, dude, what'd you do? I haven't had to do any, we haven't had any trades like that. No, you just sent a bad one. Well, I, someone asked me when I was gonna add the 2027 draft picks to our dynasty league
Starting point is 00:45:09 so they could be traded. I didn't realize I had to do that. There's a very easy setting in the commissioner jewels. So I did it this morning. And just to make sure it was working properly, I offered Jamie my fourth round pick in 2027 for Anthony Richardson and he declined. And what did you send back?
Starting point is 00:45:24 I didn't decline. I just sent you a counter offer of my fourth round pick this year from Malik neighbors. Okay. Well, we're getting, we're starting the dialogue. We'll get closer. All right. Thanks very much for the fantasy cops commissioner.
Starting point is 00:45:37 You really screwed the pooch on that one. You got some work to do. Let's read some emails now. fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. This one comes from Conrad. He says, oh wait, hold on one second. I'll see if I have the soundbite for this one. Talk amongst yourself.
Starting point is 00:45:52 What did you think of Bruce Almighty, Jamie? Loved it, absolutely loved it. The dog peeing in the toilet, I mean, it was awesome. Yeah, I can't find it. Hey Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Dan. Here's my Dan soundbite. I feel I made a mistake the last couple of years on older players.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Basically, just to sum up this email from Conrad, he wants to know what age we think is the age of decline for running backs and wide receivers. 32 for receiver. He also cited articles that Mike Taglier wrote in 2021 with this data. So anyway, go ahead, Jamie. Sorry. Jamie Buehler I think for receivers is 32. You know, there's a clear history of when they start to decline. They don't all fall off. You know, there's
Starting point is 00:46:39 clearly some outliers to this. For running backs,'s typically around age 28 but 30 is when you start to see really the decline of just great player becoming irrelevant in some cases. And again we we don't can't say it's you know a hundred percent success of you know predicting when this happens but that's typically the years when they start to really fall off. Now again, technology has changed, medicine has changed, these guys are able to play a little bit longer, they're taking care of their bodies differently. Hopefully they can play into their early 30s at those positions, mid 30s for receivers. But we just got finished talking about Tyree Kill.
Starting point is 00:47:20 He turned 31 and started to show some decline last year. For whatever reasons, it happened. Devante Adams was looking like that at the beginning of the season, then got rejuvenated by going to play with his seemingly best friend and looked awesome. Mike Evans got off to a slow start, missed a couple games, came back and looked like the Mike Evans of old. So Derek Henry is coming off another amazing season at 30. He turned 30, 31 now. So we'll see. Hopefully it continues to allow these guys to play longer into their careers and have success at this age.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And I just wanna say, I've talked a lot also about the 32, right? There's just so few receivers that are good at 32 and a lot of them just hit the cliff. Kenan Allen, DeAndre Hopkins last year, and there have been other examples, Julio Jones. Cooper Cup. But also, Julio Jones. But also, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:06 But also it could be 31. Some guys are really bad at 31, some guys get bad at 30. Just anytime you get up to that age, I never consider 29 old. And if a guy is good at 29, I'm not even concerned about 30. I think you got to be a little concerned about 31. It's not just 32. And for running backs- You're talking specifically receivers.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah, all receivers, receivers. At running back, like I can give you some examples of guys who were really bad at 29. DeMarco Murray was very good at 28. He had a 1300 yard season at 28. He had a bad 29 year old season and that was his last in the NFL. LaShawn McCoy bounced around from having some good seasons.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Like I think he was good at 28. He had an okay season, but inefficient at 29. Terrible at age 30, Lashaw McCoy bounced back at age 31 and then had 10 carries at age 32. Mark Ingram was pretty good at age 29 and 30. David Johnson was bad at 28, bounced back at 29. And then in his last two seasons, David Johnson was terrible. Melvin Gordon, though, terrible at 29. So I would just say, once you get to 29, it's not like it's a guarantee they're going to be bad, these running backs. 29 is fine for a wide receiver. 29 for a running back, you just have to understand. You look at DeMarco Murray, you look at Melvin Gordon, you look at LaShawn McCoy. There's a big possibility
Starting point is 00:49:29 that they could have a really bad season. So that is out there. It's not a science though. All right. What do we got? We got Eric. Man, so off on the sound bites. I'm just gonna play this one. Carl. But Eric, it's a boarding from where Nowhere Land meets the Boonies. Dave, you know where Nowhere Land meets the Boonies? No, I have no idea what that means. In a Superflex league, how many quarterbacks do you carry on your team?
Starting point is 00:50:00 Standard bench. Redraft? Yes. At least one on your bench, if not two. Three to four is the right answer, yeah. Okay, thank you, Eric. AI says the concept of where nowhere land meets the boonies is a metaphorical expression,
Starting point is 00:50:22 not a specific geographical location. Got you. Eric! First of all, bad guy, I do have my sounds labeled. Let me explain. I have eight sounds per page and I've got like 10 pages of sounds. So I have to scroll through it. So that's why sometimes I don't have them queued up because they're five pages away on my board here. I think we all think it's like a board like you just push like, you know DJ like, you know, you just there is a board And I do press a button but I have to change the page There's like a digital page that lists eight sounds. So that's a picture of what it looks like. I
Starting point is 00:51:00 Show you right now. Yeah, I make a suggestion? Yeah. Why don't you put the sound, like you don't use 80 sounds over the course of months. So why don't you just put the sounds that you use most often on the first page so that you have them ready. And then maybe the sounds you use second most often on the second page and then you won't ever have to scroll down to the bottom page. You don't actually use those. I can't though, because I'd have to have the actual sounds in an mp3 file and I don't. I have them loaded up on this mixer
Starting point is 00:51:25 but they're gone the hard copies are gone. So every time I get a new file I have to you know be the put it at the end or replace one earlier and it's great because I have this archive of like of this hold on. I like this random Dave laugh from six years ago, whatever, on page four. But yeah, I only have eight buttons. So it's not like a soundboard with 40 buttons. I just have to go to the next page. All right, I will. You answer this question, I'll show you what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Ed from Pittsburgh has a keeper question. And okay, so this year is the reset year. I'll just read the whole thing. We operate in three-year chunks where we scrap all rosters and redraft. We have to keep one player and can keep a second if we wish, but players are kept with first and second round value. This year is the reset year and I'm trying my hand at ranking my top 30 players for this year's draft. So it's a little dynasty-like. You can keep a guy for up to three years, then you're reset. Currently, I have Rashi Rice around 17th overall since I'm looking at a possible three years of rostering him and the looming suspension
Starting point is 00:52:35 and injury weighs a lot less on my decision. Do I have Rashi Rice too high or am I in the ballpark with my ranking? 17th overall looking at players for the next three years. So this I guess this is a good time to mention that drew Davenport to we talk about sometimes does a lot of legal work works football guys is a lawyer just did a recent fantasy football legal update on Rice's situation was basically saying that the case does not really appear anywhere in the public record in Dallas. There's a civil trial coming up in June, but there's nothing on the docket for the criminal
Starting point is 00:53:15 charges. And so he was actually saying he wasn't certain, in fact, didn't see it as super likely that Rice was going to be suspended this year. So maybe he's a little higher in redraft than he is in a three year window. I don't know, but 17 overall, especially if you're including the rookies feels a little bit high to me. I think if you're evaluating Rice, we're going to have a lot of discussions about this. You have to A, feel like he's the best receiver for the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And I think there's a lot of questions about that because it could be worthy. B, how healthy is he coming off the knee? Will he still be the same player role for this case? And then I think it's becoming a little bit less and less of how long a suspensional because he still may get suspended code of conduct from the league. I don't know if Drew addresses that at all. I will take a look, Keith, but if you've read it, that the commissioner still may step in at some point and say, you're getting two games and we'll move on from this if there's a civil trial especially. So that
Starting point is 00:54:15 to me feels like almost the lesser part of what you're looking at with Rice. He's still going to be good if Worthy's better than him, for example, but will he be as elite like 17th overall elite? Like that's, that's a pretty prominent player if you're factoring in him being that special. And I started out that way, you know, with when we started looking at our early rankings that I thought he has a chance to be like that. But as worthy finished the year, went into the playoffs, like I have my doubts. I think worthy might be better than this is my mixer. So you say I got these eight buttons here.
Starting point is 00:54:47 And then there's that screen or there's a time there. I don't know. And there's arrows on the screen. So I have to scroll to the right and I get eight sound options and then scroll to the right again, I get eight more and then it's so that's how it and then they're color coded whatever so you can see blah, blah, blah. But that's how it works. Could you mark this moment so whatever. So you can see blah, blah, blah, but that's how it works. Could you mark this moment so that when we submit for awards
Starting point is 00:55:08 next year, we could use this particular segment. Okay. Anyway, let's go to our next question here. It's from Brock. I have 107 and 110 in my one QB 10 team league. I think I'm going to take Quinshawn Judkins if I can get him at 107. My question is who has the better chance of being successful in the NFL for my 10th pick Caleb Johnson or Matthew Golden?
Starting point is 00:55:31 Caleb Johnson running back out of Iowa State, Matthew Golden or Iowa. Matthew Golden wide receiver out of Texas. Man, this is so contingent on where they go. Right. Is he making these picks before the end of the full draft? That's interesting. I hope not, but. Yeah, I'm releasing my rookie top pre-draft rookie top 40 this week, hopefully tonight,
Starting point is 00:55:58 maybe tomorrow. And I will probably have golden a couple spots ahead of Johnson. I think I would too. Okay. Let's go to our next question. It is John from a cool city in Cali. La Jolla. Dear Miguel, Robbie and Johnny. Googling.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Oh, is this Cobra Kai? Oh yes. Garbage. 12 team, half PPR, Super Flex, keep four. What'd you watch this weekend? I've been catching up on The Righteous Gemstones, that's my new show. Everybody loves it, so I just started season two.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Very funny show. I tried The Bear. Oh, what'd you think? I wanna play play ball breaker. I don't remember that. How do you play it? They just hit each other in the no, it's the video game inside the sandwich shop. Okay, but bad guess.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Anyway, keep four of these guys in super flex. It's half PPR. What were you about to say? Well, ball breaker. What do you think I was about to say? Najee Harris in the sixth, Chris Olavi in the seventh, Tua in the eighth, super flex, Debo in the ninth, Kelsey in the 10th, Darnold in the 12th, Joanne Jennings in the 17th, Calvin Ridley in the 18th.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Keep how many? Keep two. Oh, keep four. Keep four, I'm sorry. And who was the first name you said in the sixth round? Najee. Najee. Are you keeping four?
Starting point is 00:57:35 Jennings and Ridley in the 17th and 18th are the two easy ones, right? I think the quarterbacks. I would probably go both quarterbacks too. Yeah, I think the quarterbacks and those two. Two in the eighth, Darnold in the 12th, and then 17th and 18th round picks and Jennings. If we like what happens in New Orleans at quarterback, then Olavi has got to get in there. Not over the other two receivers for me. Values too good. You could keep two and three receivers. Yeah, super flexible. I keep those
Starting point is 00:58:04 two quarterbacks at that value and then take somebody early. I'm going to three receivers. Yeah, super flex. If I keep those two quarterbacks at that value and then take somebody early, I'm gonna do that. Okay, I just wanna show you guys. Yeah, but if you're taking a quarterback early either way, I'd rather have a Lave than Darnold. Not me. Okay, so I just wanna show you one last thing here. This is a Word document about my mixer.
Starting point is 00:58:23 So I... I... This is a word document about my mixer. So I, I, I, I, I, just so we can send something else for the award show.
Starting point is 00:58:31 This is- You don't even have it saved. No, I haven't saved it. I just, just came up with this. So yeah. Anyway. Okay. Um, the last question we could stop,
Starting point is 00:58:41 stop sharing that now. Um, this is from Turner. Michael? Ten Team PPR, no, and Hooch. Ten Team PPR Keeper League. Never seen it. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:58:57 We're allowed three, it's a little before my time. We're allowed three keepers per season with a one round tax per year. I have the seventh pick. The draft is Snake. My best keeper options are Olavi in the eighth, Caleb Williams in the tenth, and Mike Evans in the sixth. Is this the Olavi show? Like what did I miss?
Starting point is 00:59:15 I know, right? So 10 team PPR. He can keep Olavi in the eighth, Caleb in the tenth, or Evans in the sixth. He's currently being offered A-chan for pick 2.4. And and HN can be kept for a ninth round pick. Grade this trade for me. So you technically have to give up your second and your ninth for agent. I guess so. Done.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Agreed. Yeah, I'd do it because that especially if there's gonna be three keepers out of the mix already. So it's really, yeah, do it. And it means that he has to spend a first to keep HN next year. And if he has a monster year, guess what? You're keeping HN. No, it'd be an eighth for HN next year. But also he has to throw.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Oh, that makes it even better. But he also has to throw back one of the keepers, Olavi in the eighth, Caleb in the 10th, Evans in the sixth. Is it Super Flex? No. No. Caleb, yeah. Okay. Unless the Saints do nothing.
Starting point is 01:00:16 All right, cool. You're not keeping the 10 team league, one quarterback, Caleb Williams in the eighth round. But if he hits, you're gonna be glad to have him for a long time. Ooh, I have a question. You say the same thing about a lot of it, but Heath's argument that we haven't seen it from a lot of it
Starting point is 01:00:29 yet makes me think that there's a better chance of us getting a great fantasy asset out of Caleb than out of a lot of it. A lot of it also may be on a different team next year. Let's do true or false from Johnny following up on all the omelet talk. Adam doesn't even know what a club sandwich is. True or false?
Starting point is 01:00:46 I'd say false. You're a sandwich guy. 100% false. But he has to know everything in the club sandwich. You know, from what I understand, and I could be wrong about this, the thing that makes a club sandwich, a club sandwich is the bacon. If it doesn't have bacon, it's not the club. It's not necessarily turkey, lettuce, tomato, bacon. It's the bacon makes If it doesn't have bacon, it's not the club. It's not necessarily
Starting point is 01:01:05 turkey, lettuce, tomato, bacon. It's the bacon makes it a club, Johnny. Isn't it that it's a triple decker that makes it a club? A BLT is a club sandwich. I think I might be wrong about this. I think that was false. I know if I go to a restaurant order a club sandwich, I know what I'm getting. But I did read one time that it's the bacon that specifically makes a club. But it looks like it's a three layer sandwich featuring typically toasted bread, turkey or chicken,
Starting point is 01:01:33 bacon, lettuce, tomato, and mayonnaise. I would have said- I think it's three layers that make it a club. Three layers? Okay, okay, so I was wrong. So it's a BLT with turkey or chicken. But it's got the three layers. And you throw an extra piece of bread in there.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Okay. Johnny, you were right. I don't know what it is. Guys, you had too much faith in me. Thank you all for watching and listening. I didn't have any faith in you. We will talk to you on Wednesday with veterans who could be hurt the most
Starting point is 01:01:58 from the NFL draft. For Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Thomas, I'm Adam. See you next time. Paramount Podcasts.

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