Fantasy Football Today - Draft Prep Cram Session! Your Guide to Winning Your League (08/20 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

Position preview reviews, how to draft in different formats, sleepers, breakouts, busts and more! We're recapping everything you need to know or may have missed over the last few weeks and months. First, we start with news and notes (4:00) on the Colts offense, rising wide receivers and more ... How to draft at quarterback (19:05), running back (30:10), wide receiver (44:40) and tight end (53:00). We talk about the recent ADP trends, how early the rookie RBs should go, how things change in 2-WR vs. 3-WR leagues and if you should even bother with a mid-round TE. We also give sleepers, breakouts and busts at each position. And we even give Kicker and DST advice (1:06:50)! ... After discussing the positions, we talk about how to draft in different formats (1:10:15) including non-PPR, 0.5 PPR, full PPR, 10-team leagues, 14-team leagues, IDP and Superflex ... Email us at [e-mail] Bid on Draft-A-Thon items here! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tiltify.com/@cbs-sports/fft-draftathon-2025⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FFT newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. What's up? You missed the last six months? It's okay.

We got your back today. We've got the recap of our position previews. We've got strategies and philosophies and sleepers and breakouts and bus for every format. If you're in a 10-team league, if you're in a 14-team league, if you're in a 2-Flex league, a 3-Recever league, whatever it is. This is the one episode that will help you the most, I think, if you haven't listened to anything. So you're trying to do some cramming right now. We're going to help you out on Fantasy Football today, presented by BEDMGM, the sports book Born in Vegas. And the whole gang is here.

I'm Adam Azar with Dave Richard, Heath Cummings, and, Jamie Eisenberg. All right, I just have to get this out of the way. We are playing in a superflex dynasty startup. We're drafting right now, and Heath is the commissioner, and he's doing half a point per first down. So if you are in a league that gives points for first downs, you should know, and I should have told myself this. This is a running back dominated stat. 17 of the top 20 players in first downs gained last year. This is rushing and receiving first downs. Doesn't count passing first downs. 17 of the top 20 were running backs last year. In 2024, it was 13 of the top 20 were running backs, but 17 of the top 24. So we don't talk a lot about point for first down or

half a point for first down, but running backs do better than wide receivers there at the top. All right. Good morning, guys. We're ready to recap, you know, the entire off season? I'll just say that it's nice that you say that. And you, Jamie and I have combined to draft zero running backs in the first two rounds. I know, I know. Of course, it is also tight-in premium, so I know you drafted Brock Bowers, what, sixth, seventh, seventh? I took Brock Bowers' seventh, and then I took Puka at 18.

I mean, I want to hear the first round of this thing. I don't know if we got time for it because we're trying to have a cramp session. I can go real fast. Jaden Daniels, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Jalen Hertz, Brock Bowers, Malik neighbors, Justin Jefferson, Ashton Jentee, Bejohn Robinson, C. Liam. That's about what I would expect. Superflex. Superflex tight-end premium and a half point per catch and a half point per first down. All right. Anyway, let's get to news and notes here

and then we'll get into all of the position stuff. And now that you guys have had a day to digest the Colts news, the Brown's news, what's going on in your rankings with all the relevant players. So first of all, Anthony Richardson's agent is questioning Richardson's future with the team. Shane Steichen said he wants Daniel Jones to be the quarterback for the season. He doesn't want to have a quick leash on that doesn't necessarily mean that he will but uh be the quarterback the entire season but this this is not hopefully going to be just a back and forth this guy that guy kind of thing um Dave where did you end up with you know Taylor the cold I'll just say the Colts uh with the news yesterday yeah I really didn't move anybody it was slight movement if

anything Tyler Warren moved up a notch in my tight end ranking so I think I now have him at sixth but I'm also kind of crazy for Tyler Warren he's either six or seven through me. I can double check real quick. He's seventh. Jonathan Taylor, I'm more excited to draft, but I didn't move them over anybody because I like a lot of other running backs in that top 12 range. So he's still behind Jacobs, Chase Brown, Bucky Irving. You can make the case for Taylor ahead of at least Bucky in non-PPR. The other guys, Josh Downs is hurt. Michael Pittman is not great. Alec Pierce is like going to be good for three games a year. Didn't really do much of anything with those guys.

Okay. Anyone else? Jamie, Heath, you want to have it. Heath, we didn't hear from you on this. Jamie and I were on yesterday when the news broke. How about you and the Colts? If Daniel Jones starts 17 games, it'll be the first time he ever did that in his career. If he starts 15 games, it'll be the second time you ever did that in his career. I think no matter what Shane Steichen says, the most likely scenario is we're going to see some Anthony Richardson too. Yeah, I would agree with that. I would just say that I'm very curious about Michael Pittman, because now you have this Josh Downs injury and I think we could all say

if there's more competent quarterback play, it's better for everybody. He was no different last year, despite playing through. Who knows how bad of it. Remember there was that report he was going to get shut down around like week six or so?

Yeah, I remember that. And so I think he's going to end up being one of the more underrated players this year. Did he practice yesterday? I thought I read that he was sidelined with an undisclosed injury. I'm not sure I'll double check all right but the other thing is it's August 20th right now Josh Downs has a hamstring injury we don't even know unless I'm missing something we don't know

that he's going to miss week one we don't know anything yeah I mean and he had a great year last year he didn't play the first of games the season you know so right there's there's a lot to like about both of these guys in terms of where they're at you know just looking at what their stats were last year with Joe Flacco now no one should mistake Daniel Jones and Joe Flacco at passers because I don't think Daniel Jones will help these guys to the same level. But you said this yesterday, Adam. The bottom line is there's going to be less rushing from the quarterback spot. So there'll be more pack attempts to whatever degree.

You know, Heath, however you're going to project it, I'm sure is going to be, you know, more favorable for these guys. I do think the biggest loser, if there was one, you know, if you were looking for a late-round flyer, Alec Pierce led the NFL in yards per catch last year. He is not doing that with Daniel Jones. So, you know, if you were looking for a best ball type of guy or a DFS play, I don't think that's going to happen to the same level that it could with Anthony Richardson. So I wrote a whole story about the Colt situation. This is, there's two sides of this.

Richardson would have been a good fantasy asset. Daniel Jones is just not as much. Although his per season average, which is, you know, boosted a lot by his 700-yard rushing season. His per season average is 529 rushing yards a year. Yeah. Yeah, he's got some, something there. And it's just kind of crazy. There's 16 times that it happened, but 10 quarterbacks.

He's one of 10 quarterbacks. I've said this that many times about the angel. He's one of 10 quarterbacks with a 3,700 yard season. And the other guys are incredible. Like, RG3 is rookie year, but really it's Cam Newton's done it three times. Lamar Jackson's done it twice. Josh Allen's done it twice. Jalen Hertz has done it twice.

it's like a who's who of quarterbacks and Daniel jumps. Like it's just kind of crazy. Like he's on this list. But he could be a little bit of his prize. I just think that it's a benefit to everybody else. And you said this, Adam. Like Jonathan Taylor's numbers with and without Anthony Richardson last year, Taylor, 18 catches on the season,

11 of those catches came in the five games with Joe Flacco. He had three games last year without a target with Anthony Richardson. Yeah. He's still, nine games with Richardson, Jonathan Taylor, was still really good. He averaged 16 points in non-PPR, 16.3 in half, and 16.8 in full PPR, which is just like an unbelievable split to only average 0.8 more PPR fantasy points per game in full PPR than non-PPR. It means you're not even catching one pass per game. With Flacco, he was a top five running back basis. He averaged 19.2 PPR fantasy points per game with Flacco and 16.1. 8 with Richardson. Heath, go ahead. I do think I moved him up 41 pass attempts for the season in my projections, so from 499 to 540. The problem is, like, Daniel Jones has been worse on a per attempt basis than Anthony Richardson as a passer in terms of yards.

He's been much worse, he's been worse in terms of touchdown rate. He has the third most pass attempts ever for a quarterback with a touchdown rate below 3.2%. Usually if you're this bad, you don't keep getting chances. So I do think that I would expect the Colts to score more points with Anthony Richardson at quarterback. This will be better in PPR for the guy who's who get catches because there will be more catches. I'm not sure there's going to be that many more yards and points for the offense. All right. Does it change how defense just play them?

No, let's move on. I'm sorry. Let's get to our big topics. What did you said? Pittman did not practice yesterday, but he talked to the media about the quarterback. decision. So I'm guessing he's fine. All right. The Saints head coach, Kellyn Moore, said that the quarterback competition between Spencer

Rattler and Tyler Shuck is very close and he should have a decision soon. Why are they not just adding somebody? Like, Kenny Pickett makes so much sense, haven't been with Kellynne Moore last year. And the fact that he's not going to be a starter. And who knows if he ever gets a chance this year. It just doesn't make any sense. James was then. James.

Ding, ding, ding. Right? That is. Just go get one of these veteran guys. Even if you don't start. Like start one of the young guys. fine but have somebody else on your team just for semblance of any sort of continuity to help this offense but unless you're just tanking for Quinn for Arch Manning no well

no I as of now nobody thinks manning is coming out not nobody but most people don't think manning is going to come out after this season that is the if you look at top quarterback rankings I've seen he hasn't even really been on them in a lot of rankings because people think he's staying so there is that but yeah James Winston is a name that we should know because we love him for fantasy purposes, not for him, but for everyone else. And with Jackson Dart having such a good preseason, you know, don't be surprised if James Winston is on the block. Meanwhile, the Giants do get good news with three players coming back to practice. Andrew Thomas, their left tackle, who did not commit to playing in week one.

He said his foot injury is a tough one for big guys to recover from, but he's off the pup list. They're ramping him up. They're at Washington in week one. Malik neighbors back at practice, Cam Scadaboo back at practice. Doesn't mean they're practicing in full, but it's a lot. obviously a good sign. Jalen McMillan could miss about half the season with a strained neck. So I have looked this morning at a few things. I've looked at CBS ADP, which is really picking up right now. I've looked at fantasy pros overall PPR ADP and compared it to when we

did our position previews a few weeks ago, or in the case of quarterback and tight end, three weeks ago, and I looked at NFC average draft position. These high-stakes leagues usually have PPR over the last seven days. And Ameca-Buka, unsurprisingly, is a huge riser. Ricky Pearsall is another huge riser. So with McMillan out for a while, with Godwin trending toward missing the start of the season, maybe the Pupplist. Who do you guys like better? Pearsall or Abuka? Pearsall. They're back to back for me right now.

Pearsall by one spot. That could change if Godwin is on the Pup list. McMillan seems like he's headed for the Pup list. And if we get positive Joanne Jennings news, because this was a hold-in situation more so than an injury situation. So if Jennings is cleared and ready to go and Godwin's on the Pup list, I will take a Bucca over Pearsall. I've got a Bucca over Pearsall.

For that exact reason. Okay. And one guy that, you know, I think about, we used to talk about him the way we're talking about Pierceell and Abuka for a week or so, and he hasn't had any buzz lately, is Matthew Golden, right? But that's another team that has a lot of injuries at wide receiver right now. But they hopefully will be healthy by week one or two talking about Jason. Well, Dobbs has been back. So he's. Yeah, right. But Wix is. There was actually, you know, one of these NFL rumor Twitter X handle things that suggested, Dodds. could be a trade candidate. Right, and Wix has heard that earlier. My question, though, Abuca, Pearsall, are they way ahead of Golden? No, they're basically back to back to back for me. I've got Golden behind those guys.

I've got a Pearsall, Golden, Abuka. I just wanted to bring that up because, you know, if you're sitting there in your draft, and you're super pumped to draft Pearsall and Abuka, I get it. They're trendy right now. Two weeks ago, this was Matthew Golden, right? You know, Love's been out and whatever. They didn't play their starters in the preseason. So just in their last game.

I think in my FFT open draft, all three of those guys went in round five. Five. It's in a two receiver league. It might have been six. Let me, I'll pull it up. That's wild. All right. A few more items here.

Ian Rappaport does not expect Brian Robinson, Jr. to play for the commanders this season. If you want to hear that analysis, listen to yesterday's show. Cameron Hayward returned to practice, I think, in a limited capacity. This is the 36. six-year-old star defensive tackle for the Steelers, but he still wants a new contract. Zach Jackson of the Athletic thinks that Cleveland-wide receiver Deontay Johnson may not make the team.

Travis Hunter returned to practice. Jaden Blue returned to practice. Dallas rookie running back, Jaden Blue. Saints rookie running back, Devon Neal, returned to practice. San Francisco running back, Isaac Gorendo, returned to practice. He remains our favored handcuff for Christian McCaffrey. And as I mentioned earlier, Don Tavian Wicks, Packers receiver dealing with a calf injury, could be ready for week one, though.

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We have some great shows coming up this week. I want to tell you about it, and we'll be right back on fantasy football today. All right, welcome back, everybody. More injury news. Okay. And it's still no AJ Brown. Still no AJ Brown. That's as of today, Wednesday.

Yep, and Devante Smith dealing with a groin injury. Wow. So, AJ, so Drake. Drake London, this is one of the trends that I noticed. Drake London is ahead of A.J. Brown, maybe on all three sites, CBS, fantasy pros, and NFC. Yeah, he's actually, Drake London is on NFC since August 13th. It's about 50 drafts, I think. He's actually going ahead of Pooka and Akua, because obviously people have Stafford concerns.

I've seen that in several drafts. I made the switch of London and Brown about a week ago, and it's just, You know, you have one guy dealing with his hamstring injury for over a week. Another guy, his running mate is still out with a shoulder injury. Like, it just feels like London's heading in a better direction right now in AJ Brown. I don't think he's a better player than AJ Brown, but a situation might be better this season. The flip side to that is that now we might be able to get both Brown and Devante at a discount. Maybe.

It might not last very long, but like. Brown's ADP on our side has been in round three for about two weeks now. Which is awesome. I would get that all. If you can get, I think I said that to you add him in the FFT Open yesterday. Like, I had the fourth pick. So coming back in round two, I wanted to see if he would fall in round three. And so I took Bucky Irving over him just to play, you know, played out and see how it would go.

And he went right after. So still late round two. But falling. Well, our ADP is pretty running back heavy because even Drake London is going in the third round, you know, overall. So don't expect that. He's 26 right now. two tight ends. But, but that being said, you know, Bowers, yeah, Bowers is 25th. You've got more quarterbacks in CBS ADP. Quarterbacks are going a little bit earlier, although only two in the

first round, but Joe Burrow very close to 24th. And you've got a lot of running back. It's kind of running back heavy ADP compared to some other sites. So one thing, just, you know, full disclosure with our ADP that I don't love is that we do not separate Superflex. So any Superflex drafts are going to be reflective of our ADP. But it's not like a heavy, portion of our leagues. It doesn't matter if, you know, if they're going to round one. Sure, but it's, it's not like, I don't know if it taints it too much. Okay.

Like, if 30% of our leagues were Superflex, A, we'd talk about Superflex a lot more. B, it would have a massive impact on our ADP, but it's not. It's not that way. All right, let's start with quarterback here. So let's review our quarterback. And by the way, we, we default to six point, but we're going to try to, you know, throw out some four point talk as well, um, per passing. touchdown. Let's talk about our quarterback strategies. And Dave, I'll give you the first word.

How are you seeing the quarterback position now and has anything changed since we did our preview on about three weeks ago, actually? Nope. Still looking to get a value at the quarterback position. That doesn't mean I'm trying to get a steal at the quarterback position. I just want to feel like I'm getting good value on any quarterback at any point in the draft. Certainly not going to reach for one. Definitely think it's a reach if you take any quarterback in round one or, round two in a one QB league and as long as I'm doing that as long as I feel like it's a safe value and maybe even to take it a step further there isn't a running back I really like there isn't a receiver I really like there isn't a tight end I really like maybe that's when you make

that pivot to quarterback there's a guy there that you like you take them you move on heath how about you quarterback and by the way did you want to update us on where those wide receivers were going in your fift open league did you have that all right we've moved on okay um I, I mean, I think Dave pretty well said it. We're not taking quarterback in the first two rounds. I've moved, since our quarterback preview, I've moved the top three up a few spots because some of the guys I was taking ahead of them I don't feel as good about. So they went from the back end of round three to the middle of round three,

and that's Jackson, Allen, and Daniels. And the other thing is, I think one reason to maybe move those guys up is if you pass on one of those three in round three, you cannot count on Joe Burrow and Jalen Hertz making it back to you in round four. because Burrow goes at the 3-4 turn often, and Hertz usually goes shortly after Burrow does or ahead of Burrow. So if you pass on one of the elite quarterbacks in round three,

you may be passing on the top five quarterbacks. Which is certainly not anything to be afraid of. But yeah, if you go into a draft thinking, I want a top five quarterback, just be aware of what he'd said. But where do you guys value Joe Burrow in a four-point-per-passing touchdown league? as the fifth UB, but still top five. But top five is closer to the top four or closer to number six, Mahomes? Closer to the top four.

I think another thing that makes a difference is a lot of leagues that are four points for past touchdown league give you a little bit more for passing yardage, that 0.05 or 0.04 for passing yardage. And so if it may be a little boost for the passing yardage, then maybe it's still okay. but I probably right in the middle of the top four in that other group. Okay. Where do you guys want to take Mahomes?

ADP has him kind of around 50th on CBS and on fantasy pros. NFC, NFC ADP, he's 76, but quarterbacks are just going later in this NFC ADP. But where's the sweet spot for Mahomes, Jamie? round six is the earliest six seven turn i'll be the high guy five six turn okay um sleepers breakouts busts let's you know what actually before we do that one of the trends i'm seeing is that justin fields has been a faller um he when we first did our position preview justin fields was i think QB10, and he was ahead of Jared Gough and Brock Purdy, and they've moved ahead of him.

So he's more like QB 13 now in ADP. And the way ADP sets up, it looks like this. You've got your group of five at the top. You've got Jackson, Allen, Daniels, Hertz, Burrow, in some order. Then you've got a group of three. Mahomes, Baker, Mayfield, Bow, Nicks. And then you've got a group of four. Kyler, Gough, Pertie, Fields.

And then after that, you know. DAC. DAC should maybe be in that group. Maybe it's a group of five. Yes, it is. Kyler, DAC, golf, Purdy, Fields, in some order. So that's what, that's 13 quarterback. Sorry, I forgot, Dag Prescott.

You're absolutely right. That's kind of how it looks. If I said that, you've got one tier of five. Next tier of three, Mahomes, Mayfield, Knicks. Next tier of five, Kyler, Dak, golf, Purdy, Fields. Heath, you know, which tier do you have one that you are drafting a lot of or are drafting almost none of?

What do you think? I like some of the guys in the third tier better than the second tier, so I don't generally draft than the second tier. I almost feel like quarterback and tight end are a very similar strategy, great or late. Like, you know, Mahomes, I don't like his ADP. I think Heath and Dave are probably, at least previously, anti-Baker ADP. Bo Nix is sort of in a questionable spot.

Kyler Murray, Dak Prescott, like, I don't feel like I want to take them at those values. I'd almost rather wait for, you know, if you're looking at the YouTube page, kind of where that line break is, you know, for, I'm not taking Jared Gough there, but the guy's going after Jared Gough. Like, that's almost the range I prefer to take my quarterbacks. So that's around QB 13. 12 for 30. So that's Purdy, Fields, Herbert, Love, Caleb. And you don't see Drake May on here. And I would say, we are higher on Drake May, except for Heath. Heath, where do you have May?

Yeah, 18 or 19. That's basically where his ADP is. Whereas Dave and Jamie have Drake May as a borderline top 12 guy. There's no border about it. Oh, you put him here top 12? He's in. Okay, but he's got 12. It was a matter of Justin Fields earlier this week. The Fields thing is interesting to me because it's like, I know. know he's having a bad preseason, but don't we know who he is after four years of his career? I mean, I think Fields, people that are panicked about Fields are going to regret it when he has one of those games. And how many of those games, again, I'll go back to last year. The first two games, we were saying, Fields may get you off to a good start, all the things that we're kind of, you know, saying this year.

And the first two games were sort of frustrating. And then the last four were amazing. Yeah, he's going to be an up and down quarterback. I sort of get it if you feel like Purdy and golf DAC are just going to be more consistent than him. And obviously, this is six point per passing touchdown league. But even in the four point ADP Fields has been a faller. But, Heath, let's talk about just how deep this position is. And what do you do when you look at all these?

There's so many great quarterbacks that I want. I want to take a chance on Caleb Williams and Drake May and Trevor Lawrence, these breakouts. And then you have guys like Tua. And C.J. Stroud is going a little bit higher than I. He's at like QB 15. I don't really get that. but maybe Jordan Love can bounce back. Anyway, there's so many appealing options.

How do you approach that? Well, you can just know that probably half of those appealing options you just mentioned are going to be on the waiver wire in your league. So you don't have to reach for the other half because there's not much difference between them. And so I think I want to draft the high upside guys, like, in my opinion, Justin Fields, Caleb Williams. I'm probably moving Kyler Murray up just a little bit. But those types of guys, and then you can pair them with one of the Jordan loves or Jared Goffs or whoever happens to Brock Purdy sometimes falls, like whichever one of those guys falls.

But it's the whole reason I don't really think that depth impacts tier one at all because those guys are in a different stratosphere from the top five quarterbacks and especially the top three from this depth we're talking about. But I don't really think that the Baker-Mayfield group, and I know he was last year, is they're not that much different in my projections. So that's why we don't want to take them in round six or seven, because you can find somebody very similar in round 11 or 12 or maybe on the waiver wire. Okay. All right. Let's get one sleeper from everybody. Just one name. Go ahead.

Jamie Dave Heath. I'll go with Trevor Lawrence's sleep. Too obvious to go with Drake May? No. Heath. Okay, I'll go with J.J. McCarthy, then. Okay. I don't know how somebody can be a post-type sleeper before they play the first game of their second season.

But I think Caleb Williams is. So I'll go with Caleb Williams. Breakout. Jamie Dave Heath. Jake me. I think Bo Nix can be a little bit better season long than he was last year. Justin Fields. Bust. Justin Fields.

I'm home. I shouldn't get into a frustrating argument whether a round 10 pick can be a bust. But I'll go with, I mean, nobody said it yet, so I'll say Lamar Jackson. He's going 16th overall on CBS ADP. He's going 16th overall on CBS. He's going about, let's say, 2-3 turn-ish on other sites.

How do you feel that you still bus call there? I wouldn't draft him or Josh Allen in round two. Okay. All right, let's go to running backs then, talk about our running back strategy. Real quick, though, here's some programming. coming up. So today I'm interviewing Chad Smith, drummer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. He is starting some fantasy leagues to benefit his new foundation. You better sing to him. You can play fantasy

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We're going to give you tips to win your auction. We're on CBS Sports Network on Friday at 1 p.m. Eastern. Yeah, look at that. I know. I'm hosting, so you should watch. Also, I'll be in Memphis at the St. Jude Content's Creator Draft, Raising Money for our draft-a-thon, and there will be live hits on CBSS-N, showing all that absolute madness that will be going on with the content creators drafting their fantasy football teams. And if you're in the FFT Open and you're confused about how the timer works,

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Just keep on drafting. We're all going to get through it. Believe me, the leagues are going to finish well before the season starts. The drafts are going to finish before the season starts. All right, we recorded Running Back Preview Part 2 on August 6th. Here we are in August 20th, two weeks later, and looking at some of the trends. And really, to me, it's about what's going on with the rookies. So comparing fantasy pros overall consensus, PPR, ADP from two weeks ago.

Amarian Hampton has moved up a little bit. He's now RB 16, but he's still in round four. He's after Breece Hall and Alvin Camara. Trayvion Henderson is RB 23. He's 53rd overall. And then you have David Montgomery and D'Andre Swift. And then you have R.J. Harvey at 65th. Joe Mixen has plummeted

from round five to round seven seven spots in the running back rankings Caleb Johnson has fallen from round six to round seven Tony Pollard has jumped Caleb Johnson but Johnson's still ahead of Warren this is fantasy pros ADP.

Well, no, because here's my thought. You know, when you look at overall ADP and you can't set a date range, you're not necessarily getting an accurate reflection. Like, for example, Ricky Piersaw and Ameca Abuka are huge risers on CBS ADP if you look at them. But Abuka is only about

a hundredth overall. We know that's not where he's actually going. We know that's just the average of where he's going now and where he was going way before. So if we look at NFC ADP since August 13th, and we have just the last week, here's the running backs. Amari and Hampton's

RB 13. He's head of James Cook and Breeze Hall. How do we feel about that? I don't hate it. They're back to back for me, Cook, and Hampton. I would definitely take him over Breece Hall at this point. Too high for me. I'll take Hampton.

Travion Henderson is RB 16, kind of around the three-four turn. It's more wide receiver heavy drafting there, but he's RB 16, Travion Henderson. He's ahead of Ken Walker, basically tied with Ken Walker, and about a full round ahead of Camara and Chuba Hubbard. That's Trayvion Henderson. How do we feel about that as RB 16? Just about right. Too rich from my blood. Those guys as well.

So we don't have consensus. Especially with that report about Walker. R.J. Harvey is R.J. Harvey. R.21 after Chuba Hubbard and James Connor. This is over the last week on NFC. How do we feel about that? Good. It's about right for me.

I take him higher. Joe Mixin is R.B. 32. It's going 94th overall. Caleb Johnson is RB 27, and then it's Tyrone Tracy, and then it's Jalen Warren. So how do we feel about Caleb Johnson, Tyrone, Tracy, Jalen Warren? string of three at RBS 27, 8, and 9. I'll take Tracy and Warren over Mixing and Caleb. Yeah, I got it Warren, Tracy, Mix and Johnson.

I'll take Tracy first. I'll take Caleb Johnson right behind him. And then mixing and Warren, maybe a round later. Again, over the last week on NFC, Zach Charbonnet is a top 100 pick. Ken Walker. Somebody just asking in the chat, what's the Ken Walker report? I just referenced.

It's the ESPN report about, Walker missing so much practice time and sharpening a knot that we may see closer to a even workload than we're expecting. Yeah. Javante Williams, still the first Cowboys running back off the board

and Quintan Judkins is still the first Cleveland running back off the board, then Dylan Samson, then Jerome Ford at RB 56. So I really think the big question here, Jamie, is, you know, these rookie running backs, I think we have a really good track record of first round pick rookie running backs

getting a ton of work. I can give the stat in a moment, but basically over like the last eight to ten years or something, there's only been two that haven't had significant workload as rookies. One of them was Christian McCaffrey. He was sharing with, who the hell was he sharing with? John and Stuart. And the other was, I want to say,

Rashad Penny, who was playing behind Chris Carson. But for the most part, you're getting 17 or more, 16 or more, 17 or more touches per game for these guys. So, you know, that's the round one guys, Gentie and Hampton. The round two guys, you know, I think the big question is when to take Henderson, Harvey, those two specifically, because you've moved them up. And, you know, Hampton, too. The Triple H.

Triple H is a real question here. So we just talked about it. You just heard that. But that's, I think, has shaped running back strategy since the last time we spoke. Or we go, well, you can just take Trayvion Henderson around five. Well, that's not happening anymore. R.J. Harvey, I do think it's possible based on current trends. still get him in round five. But with all that said, that's my preamble for this question.

How should we approach running back this year? I think it comes down to, you know, your trust in these rookies versus your faith in these veterans. And, you know, we're going to get, you're going to get differing opinions from all of us here because, you know, Alvin Camara, if you still buy into his extreme role in the passing game, Heath has laid out this week a couple of times, you know, certain programming about Kellan Moore's track record with throwing to running backs. is still, based on his response to that, is very much believing in Camarra still,

and we'll see how that sort of played the stuff out. James Connor, you know, if you still want to trust the 30-year-old running back, who's had a very good track record, you're going to take him over some of these rookies. Chuba Hubbard, coming off the year that he had, you're going to trust him over some of these rookies. Obviously, Heath is very high on DeAndiard Swift,

and please stop me if I'm saying the wrong thing for any of you, so I don't want to say the wrong thing. But for me, like, I'm putting my faith probably a little bit too much, and we'll see if it, you know, it comes back to haunt me. but in the three rookies, not named Ashton Genti of, I guess, Triple H, right? Yeah, Triple H.

You know, Hampton is only going to benefit that much more. You know, whatever excitement you had for him coming out of the NFL draft because of the Najee Harris injury. And if the NFI report, if the athletic report about his status on the NFI becomes true, becomes true, that he misses the start of the season, I mean, Hampton may be around two pick. You know, with the excitement level just getting that much ramped up, you know, so you may continue to go ahead of James Cook and maybe get closer to where that Kyron Williams, Bucky Irving, Chase Brown group is, understandably so. Henderson is a wild card because he's not going to be the lead rusher to open the season. You know, I think they've told us that with what they did in the second preseason game, giving Antonio Gibson that opportunity instead of seeing if Henderson can handle it. But it wouldn't shock me if he's a close split with whoever the lead guy is, Ramandre Gibson, mostly Ramandre. and his role in the passing game could be amazing.

And then Harvey, you said it, Adam, he hasn't moved as much. Probably because everybody loved what they saw from J.K. Dobbins last year and maybe a little bit concerned that Harvey played at UCF comparatively to Ohio State. You know, if you're just talking about, you know, college profiles and not seeing him as much. I just think I'm going to trust Sean Payton's system and his explosiveness. So I'm leaning toward all three of these rookies.

Two of them are around three for me in terms of Hampton. and Henderson. Harvey's in round four. I want to be aggressive in drafting them. I want to have them on my fantasy team. Okay. There's other topics here to cover when it comes to running back. So, Heath, why don't you just give me the lay of the land of running back how you see it and how you're drafting? I'd like to have at least one running back in the first two rounds. If you want to go the hero RB approach, that includes that. If you want to go heavy running back, I think there are right wide receivers that can make that valuable in the four through six range. so I'm okay with that as well.

I've kind of been a pretty big proponent over the years of ZeroRB in a year as a possibility. It feels like less of a possibility this year. I don't think I've drafted any teams with that approach. One change I've made, because I don't know if we ever got to that part, but I was going to give H.N. a week and see if he was fine next week. And I have two drafts going on right now, and one starting in 15 minutes and one Saturday and one Sunday,

and I realized, you know, I shouldn't wait a week for everybody else who's also drafting this week. So I moved A Chan down to RB6. First round pick for you still? One two turn, 12 or 13. Okay. All right, Dave, same question to you. Just give me some.

Hey, I know you. You're Dave Richard. Hey, can I stop you for 30 seconds and you can tell me how to draft running backs this year? Yeah, let's take a 30,000 foot view of the position and what you should do before draft day. Number one, you've got to know how big your league is. What's the scoring system? How many running backs can you start? That includes flex spots.

The fewer running backs that you start, the less likely you're going to prioritize that position. Usually it depends on how many receivers you could start where you would make that determination. But the thing you've got to do before you draft is figure out how many running backs you believe are startable options. The smaller that number is, the more you should push for running backs with your first few picks.

The bigger that number is, the more you could probably get away, with a hero RB start or maybe even a zero RB start, especially if you really love the rookies as much as Jamie does. I certainly love my fair share of the rookies too. And if you want to trust those guys as starters for your fantasy team, you could begin with two of the top nine or ten wide receivers in your draft and still pick up two rookie running backs.

And you go to battle this season week one with those guys in your lineup. So I would go find a rank list. Doesn't have to be minor, anybody on the shows, but any rank list, go to ADP. Just start making a list of how many running backs that you're good to go with. For me, it's wherever David Montgomery is. Once you get past David Montgomery, I get a little skittish about the running backs after them,

being reliable starters for my fantasy team. So in a league where I start two running backs and three wide receivers, my goal is to get two of those first 23 running backs. That includes... I like to get two of my two running backs in my first five picks, and then one of potentially Tracy, Warren, Charbonnet, Allen, Jordan Mason.

Mason, yeah. And then one later of Tootin, Jaden Blue, Jerome Ford, one of those type of guys. Okay, I like that. All right, one sleeper, one, breakout, one bus. Dave, Heath, Jamie. Let's get a sleeper. Dave. Sleeper running back, do I just take the easy name?

You know what? I'm not going to take the easy name. In fact, I'm going to take his teammate, and I think you can still get him in round nine plus. It's Austin Echler, who I think is going to end up with more work than we think because of what's going on in the commander's backfield. So the easy name, Dave, was referencing was Jacori Kroski Merritt, and he has an ADP that's outside of the round 10. And if your league is not paying attention, he will be there. If your league is paying attention, he won't be close to there. So I will say Tank Bixby. I still think he'll be the leading rusher for Jacksonville,

assuming he's on the team, and if he's not on the team, he may be in a bunch better situation than he's in right now. Jamie. Braylon out. All right. Breakout. Dave, Heath, Jamie.

The breakout running back that I want to go with is Bucky Irving. I think he can be better than he was over the course of last season, and I would take him in round two. Trevion Henderson. I'll have him in round three by the end of the day. probably he was already at 38th overall he's that they're not going like i know they plan on using remandre on early downs they're just not going to be a good enough offense to where they can

leave that explosiveness on the bench for more than say 30 percent of the snaps 40 percent of the snaps jamie rj harvey i think he belongs in round four i think he'll be the best running back for the broncos and if j k daubbins gets injured which unfortunately happens a lot then we could be talking about a top 10 running back and a bust dave heath jamie the boring names are Aaron Jones and Joe Mixen because they're older one of them we don't even know when he's going to play

I'll leave the exciting name to Jamie okay Heath I'll say Alvin Camara whose CBS ADP is up to 28th overall I do not want to draft an older running back who has a decreased efficiency who has had injuries in the recent past and who could see a decrease

in his passing downs on the worst offense in the NFL. I thought Dave was going to say DeAndre Swift. We got to figure out what the bet is between Swift and Hart. Yeah, I should have said DeAndre Swift. You're absolutely right. We'll figure that out. Jamie, what's the bust? I'll go to Breeze Hall just again.

Round three is way too soon. I still think he will be the best running back for the Jets, but I don't think it's going to be that far apart from Bruce Allen. So I just can't understand his ADP not falling at this point. What is the ADP of Sequan Barclay right now? Well, let's, okay, let's use... Three. There's so many different sources, but yeah, sure, third overall.

I think it's too high. All right, let's go, let's move on. Let's get to wide receivers. We're going to take a break. We're going to talk about wide receivers and tight ends and 14 team leagues and 12 and 10 team leagues and non-PR leagues and this and that. We'll be right back. Your business doesn't move in a straight line. Some days bring growth, others bring challenges. But what if you or a partner needs to step away?

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give me the goods there's great wide receiver value available pretty much everywhere in the draft this year so except for maybe round three i think if you want to feel comfortable with your wide receiver room you take one in the first two rounds you can take two more in round four through six you want to make sure that you have i would like to make sure that i have probably five wide receivers before i get to the double digit rounds because other than luther burden there's nobody that really excites me in that range. Jamie, what do I do at wide receiver? You try and get two in the, or three, in the first five rounds, and then you want to make

sure you get one of three of the guys you just mentioned, if you can, Pierce Alibuka and Matthew Golden, because there's so much upside for those guys. If you missed on guys in that range, I would look for the group of Heon Coleman, Darnel Mooney, and Luther Burden. as he said and then if you really really miss on guys then you start to look for to mario douglas cedric tilman romeo dobs and maybe now my favorite is still marvin mims but troy franklin very late like take a second broncos receiver with one of your last picks dave what do i do a wide receiver this is the most important thing that you need to do

before you draft this is more important than what i said with running backs you need to go through a rank list of wide receivers and get a number in your brain of how many of them you think can average 15 or more PPR points per game. I think you're going to be shocked by the number that you come up with. The lower that number is, the more you should prioritize wide receivers within the first four rounds of your draft. You do not want to be the team without some good wide receivers when your draft is over. And so if you start with two running backs and a tight end and a quarterback and and you think you're going to recover that position, it's going to be really hard for you. I think that just the biggest change this year compared to past years in fantasy is a lack of stud

receivers on draft day. There's a lot of guys that we really love that are breakout candidates. We already talked about Abuka, Pierce, Saul, Matt Golden. I would add Keon Coleman to that list. There are a lot of guys that could be really good that you can get in the middle rounds. I don't know if you necessarily want those guys to be like the anchor of your wide receiver group. or maybe even the wide receiver two on your team. So you put like a little bit of extra priority at the receiver position,

especially if catches count, half PPR, full PPR. I think it's really important to go after those big time receivers. Well, one thing we've been saying for a while is, you know, one of your first two picks, it doesn't have to be a wide receiver, but it's advisable because, you know, once you get, especially if you're picking late, right, you get to the three, four turn. You may not love what you're seeing. there. Now, Mike Evans

looks a lot more appealing now than he did, but I think we all like to come away with one wide receiver with our first two picks, right? I mean, again, not a requirement, but advisable. It depends where you pick, because I think if you're picking in the early part of the first round, and you take you're saying one of your first

two picks? Yeah. Yeah, if you end up taking Bejohn, Gibbs, Barclay, maybe McCaffrey, And you get to that round two spot, and it's one of the tight end, you go tight end. And then you come back to round three, and you're staring at T. Higgins or Ladd-McConkie, let's say, or JSN, whoever you're...

Tyreek. Tyreek. I wouldn't put Tyreek there at this point. But those other three guys versus the potential of anyone from Chase Brown, Jonathan Taylor, I don't think Josh Jacobs, but depending on ADP, look like, Bucky Irving, like you could see those guys there, like, I would rather take the running back, which is strange for me to say, but like I, I don't want to reach for those receivers. I'd rather take two running backs coming out of that. And what you have to decide, because I talked about it, like four through six, and sometimes I feel like I just need to move some of the round four

guys into round three, because I like rounds four through six so much more than I like round three right now. But if if you have two elite running backs and an elite quarterback or tight end, are you okay with a receiving core and enter your own names here, but of something like Cortland Sutton, Ted McMillan, and D.K. Metcalf or something like that, like three of those guys, or Jerry Judy. Yeah. And if you're okay with those three guys as your three wide receivers, if you're elite at three other positions, then I think it's fine. I've done that. I've probably more often skipped wide receiver in the first three rounds than I have skipped running back in the first three rounds. I'd prefer to do neither. And I, and I,

I think it matters so much two-receiver league versus three-receiver league. Yep. The whole draft is, is, that is the biggest thing for me is two receivers versus three receivers. It changes wide receivers. It changes how I draft quarterback.

It changes how I draft tight end. It's a really big deal, I think, to me. I don't know if it was... I thought about that, and I think, because I said it doesn't change those positions for me, and I'm going to amend that. It doesn't change where... I draft the elite players at those positions.

It wouldn't change where I draft Bowers, McBride, or Kittle. It wouldn't change where I draft Lamar, Allen, or Daniels, and maybe it Hertzenboro, too, but it does change the guys I would normally draft in the round seven range. I would say, you know, just based on the FFT Open League, which is two receivers, one flex, I really wanted to come away with it, with either an elite tight end or a top five quarterback, You know, not necessarily both, but when I only have to start two wide receivers, I think that gives you more of an opportunity to be elite at tight end or quarterback. And I'm not saying you can't do that in a three receiver league,

but it just makes it easier. It just makes it easier. All right. So that's my thought on it. I mean, obviously, I'm not speaking for everyone. I do think the strength, though, Heath of wide receiver is, you say, said four through six, I might even amend it to say rounds four through seven. But yeah, go ahead. I would also say if I took that approach, it becomes much harder for me to click

a Mecca, Buka in round six. As your what, wide receiver two? As my wide receiver three. If you took what approach? If I don't have a true wide receiver one. If I'm trying to piece together receiving core with Cortland Sutton or D.K. Metcalf or somebody like that as my wide receiver one, I really would like to have three wide receivers before I took a ducca. So like who are the receivers you would take ahead of him? I'm trying to think of like the profile that you're looking. I think just based on how Heath has drafted so far, you're probably talking about guys like Debo Samuel and Cooper Cup.

You would take the. Well, and I was actually thinking like or somebody like Calvin Ridley or like just somebody, we're very excited about these younger guys, but their floor is obviously quite a bit shaking. than some of the guys that are being drafted in the same. Jerry Judy's being drafted right in the same range. I don't think anybody's taking those guys over Ridley. Maybe, Jude, I'd be surprised over Judy, but.

No, I think it's the, I think, I might take them over Judy. I, right. I think in my, I'll, I'll look at it now, Adam, although I've got another draft starting. Oh, crap. Forget about that. We have an IDP draft right now. Okay. Yeah, baby.

Love this draft. Yeah, not me. All right. Sleeper Breakout Bus. Just give me a name. Heath, Jamie Dave, sleeper, wide receiver. Luther Burton. Keon Coleman.

I like the Keon Coleman call a lot. Mooney. Okay. Breakout. Heath, Jamie Dave. Sorry. I was trying to look something up for you now. I'm trying to think of names.

I will go with Travis Hunter. Ricky Pearson. Okay, two piercels and a bust, teeth. I will say that the bust is going to be Tyree Kill. DJ Moore. Terry McCorn. Okay.

All right, let's go to tight ends. And Jamie, why don't you kick off the tight end discussion? We did this preview on July 31st, so it It has been three weeks since we've done that position preview. And one of the changes is obvious. John Hussmith at the time was tight end 10. Now he's tied in 16. But one of the guys who's risen is Tyler Warren.

He's now around 9 pick. He's pretty popular. Mark Andrews, though, remains ahead of Tyler Warren. It's not someone that we're really advocating for, I think, in Mark Andrews, especially in full PPR. But, Jamie, how do I draft tight end this year? You draft great or late. I don't know if you've ever heard that before. but it's a good strategy.

You're on the clock, so I'll let you make your pick an IDP. Oh, it's okay. I'm going to take Justin Jefferson for the first time. I will just say that I think I still would take Andrews over the rookies. There may be more pass attempts for the Colts this year. I would say there will probably be significantly more passing yards and touchdowns for the Ravens this year. So, sorry, let me just clarify. It's not so much him going ahead of the rookies, but it's just, I feel like he's tied in seven, I think, in ADP, Mark Andrews.

I think we don't pull the trigger there. Oh, no, not at all. I think part of that is the injury designation for Isaiah likely. If we find out that likely is going to miss the start of the season, you could justify Mark Andrews in this spot and missed our season being on the publicist. Like, if he's going to be ready early in the season, then it's hard to say Mark Andrews going to be in the spot. So it's, you know, he scored 11 touchdowns.

He combined for 11 touchdowns the previous two years. If his targets don't go up, he average 4.1 targets per game. Like, that's miserable. So he's got to be more involved. And he will be more involved if likely's not there. And so if you're gambling and likely may miss the start, we don't know how long this foot injury may linger. It may pay off for you in a big way.

It just feels like it's too rich, though. All right. Real quick. Wendy, I'm sorry. I'm going to interrupt this time because I tried to tell you about 45 minutes ago, but now we're in the tight end second year and Waller's off the pup. Oh, okay. Great.

When do you, where do you guys have Brock Bowers, Brock Bowers ranked? overall overall uh 203 25 12 20 25 okay big difference there how about tray mcbride 24 24 one spot ahead of bowers in pprr 20 all right so he's so higher on those two um yeah i know uh let's go with the neighbors and um where do you have george kittle ranked 30th 31 40 Okay

we've been pretty clear I think on obviously it differs by analysts but how we feel about those top three Now Tyron in round one I just So we're doing the Super Flex Dynasty League

that I told you about with Heath And I started with Neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr. And now we're doing this non-dynasty full PPR league where we start three receivers

and I'm going to start with neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr. It's just so oh, but A-chan, ooh. No, I'm not going to do it. Do it. Now I'm going to take Brian Thomas Jr. Because you know what?

And this is like live action, right? I'm doing this thinking I'm probably going to take Travian Henderson or Omari and Hampton if he falls to me late in round three. And then I'm probably going to end up with Isaiah Pacheco, who I love in round five or something like that,

and then I'll be fine with my running backs. Also, this just goes to show you. Like, Kairn Williams just went 12th overall. To Jake Seeley, who knows what he's doing, right? Great analyst. You can look at ADP all you want. You can prepare it. All it takes this one person in your league to do a pick that you did not expect,

and all of a sudden you get great value, or what you perceive as great value. Oh, I can't believe it's just one player, but I can't believe Brian Thomas Jr. fell to me there. I just got Pook at 18. Exactly, exactly. I know that you might just be really benefiting from some early season. All right, tight end.

So here's the tough call, I think, at tight end, right? Hawkinson's been good. I think he was top seven per game every year until last year when he didn't score a touchdown. Obviously, Travis Kelsey is old, but he's Kelsey, and he's got so many more targets when Rishie Rice was out, and Rishie Rice going to miss some time. Sam Leporta has been tight end one for one of his years, and he started the season really slow, and then he finished really strong. Was that because of injury or just because they were throwing the ball so much late?

Am I missing anyone from that trio? I think the question is... Nizoku, right? Nizoku's been so good, as Jamie outlined last year without Deshawn Watson. And he, I feel like, has been a top six to eight tight end three seasons in a row on a per game basis. He's been pretty underrated.

So, you know, Heath, when do you take these guys? Well, I think that the funny thing is, our preference for these guys may be pretty close to the exact reverse order of ADP currently. So I think probably round six is when you can start looking for these guys. Often Najoku falls to round seven or round eight, but he is my favorite. But I have Najoku, Kelsey Hawkinson, Leporta in that range all in round six. So there are 30 picks behind George Kittle.

There are 30 picks ahead of any other tight end for me. This is the clear tier two. But they don't get drafted in the same spot all the time. Usually one of them, usually Kelsey Ornojoku, maybe Hawkinson, falls to round seven or eight. Dave, this is one of the toughest decisions I have, particularly again in a two-receiver league. Because if I'm in the sixth round or so and it's a three-receiver league, very likely I'm taking a wide receiver here, right? Because it's great wide receiver value. We need to build out that position.

Two-receiver league, I often don't know which way to go. Maybe Mahomes is on the board. These tight ends are on the board. And then I still like taking Tyler Warren late, right? And we always say greater late, right? So why am I even going to spend a sixth or a seventh round pick on a tight end? But again, I think there is a pretty compelling case to do so. What do you do in this situation?

I think the only one that I would consider in that range is Leporta, maybe in a joku for talking the end of round seven. But when I go shopping for a tight end, it's almost like the same philosophy as I have with quarterbacks. I want a good value. I will let other people reach for Bowers and McBride because they think they're drafting the next Kelsey. They might be, but I don't want to start fighting for them around 15th overall. I'm looking for them around the two, three turn. And with other tight ends, I don't see it with Andrews.

And I don't really see it with Hawkinson, especially once Jordan Addison comes back. I think that those two guys are definitely getting picked way too soon. And the only change up from, there is obviously a tight end that I really love. It's Tyler Warren, and now I have to take him in round eight, but I'm trying to get them in all my leagues.

But outside of that, I'm really comfortable just kind of letting tight end come to me and getting a fair value on one. And I know that even if I have to wait until round 12 and get Zach Hertz to be my starter to begin the year, I'm completely at peace with that. Okay, fair enough. Do you also think that the two receiver versus three receiver thing

is influencing this decision at tight end? Sure, of course, because you've got to start three receivers. It certainly makes the receiver position that much more valuable. If you guys do end up waiting at tight end, who are you usually targeting, Jamie? Tyler Warren, Tucker Kraft, Colston Loveland, and Dolan Gate. And sometimes Njoku makes it that far. Yeah, oh, yeah. And maybe two of them, right?

And maybe two of them. Yeah, I don't hate that because now you're taking two shots on tight ends, hoping to get somebody that, all right, they won't be as good as Travis Kelsey in his prime. But if you can find somebody that's going to get you 12 PPR points per game, and you can get them in the late rounds, hell yeah, you'll take that all day. Heath, how about you, same question to you? Same guys, they said. It's Kraft and Loveland for the most part.

If it's one of those leagues where Ertz just falls to the last round, and that's fine as a pairing with Loveland. I think actually, though, like if you get Najoku in round 8 and Loveland falls to round 11 or 12 like he does sometimes, that might be a really good pairing because Nojoku might be good with Flacco for as long as it takes Loveland to get acclimated to the NFL. And then when Flacko loses this job, you can just start Loveland. My gosh, I'm not even paying attention to this draft. I just had the 35th pick. I didn't even realize that not a single quarterback has been taken. We're into round four.

And now what do I do here? I feel like I have to take Josh Allen over Trayvion Henderson but I love Trayvion Henderson Oh man You know what? I want to know what you do You're not going to get one of you

Their quarterback's going to start to go You're not going to get one of your guys No but I've had a lot of success waiting on quarterback in this league That's so stupid right Like taking Trayvion Henderson over Josh Allen That's so stupid Not a single Or you're running back so far

I have James Cook, Malik, Neighbors, and Brian Thomas. I would have taken that one. I didn't take anyone yet. I still have 15 seconds to decide. First person in the chat to tell me, who do I take? Who do I take? Alan or Henderson? Go, go, go, go, go.

So Alan's your QB1? Yeah. So you're, you've done an entire off-season's worth of research. I'm going to run out of time. Give me Alan. Give me Josh Allen. You've taken a whole off-season's worth of research, and you're asking the chat to me.

make the pick for you. All right. Josh Allen, it is. Smart. Sorry about that, Jamie. Okay. Let me just say this about

tight end, right, just to finish this discussion here, you know, so I came up with in round six in the FFT open. And at that point, I had, I had Nico,

Gentie, Hampton, Jalen Hertz, were my first four picks. And then I took Pacheco in round five. So I had a quarterback, three running backs, one wide receiver. And when I came up, there were three tight ends I liked.

There were Hawkinson, the four, right? It was all those guys. It was Hawkinson, Leporta, Nujoku, and Kelsey. I think they were all available. And I kind of felt like if I didn't take one there, I probably wasn't going to get one the next round, but I was willing to gamble. So I took Jerry Judy instead of one of those tight ends. We talked about so much how Flacco could be so good for him.

So I took the receiver. I'm going to just gamble. Well, we're almost up to my next pick. There's a couple of tight ends left, I think, so it might work out. But if it doesn't, that's okay. I can live with going with the late round guy. All right, sleeper, breakout, and bust.

We'll go Jamie Heath. Dave, Jamie Sleeper, tight end. Dalton, Kake. Heath? Coast and Leveland. I'll say Zach Ertz, but I actually don't love his ADP on CBS. I'd try and get them later than round 10.

Heath, you're on the clock. What are you going to do here? You know, I've got a couple running backs that's off my cue and a couple quarterbacks, but these guys are going to eat up all the wide receivers over the next 11 picks, I'm afraid. So I'm going to go ahead and take Cortland Sutton to be my number two wide receiver. So I have Sequin, Barclay, T. Higgins, Cortland Sutton, and Brock Bowers. I make a little RV with this team.

Heath, sorry, who's your sleeper tied on? I said Colston Love. Colston Love it. My bad. Dave, who's your sleeper tight on? I said Zacherts. Zacherts, there we go. Okay, sorry, I was paying attention

to the draft and not the show. Also, Cortland, that's what it was. You said Cortland Sutton. Someone asked earlier in the chat how we feel about Cortland Sutton. Just so you know, we are higher on Cortland Sutton big time than ADP. We have him as wide receiver 17, I believe,

in consensus rankings. I think the lowest any of the three of them are on Cortland Sutton is wide receiver 20. So we actually really like Cortland Sutton a lot compared to his ADP, which is closer to 23rd. Breakout tight end, Jamie Heath Day. Dave, go.

Tyler Warren. Oh, that was really, really cruel. I'll take the booze from the chat, and I'll say Brock Bowers. Okay, it means he's going to be even better than he was last. How many points does Brock Bowers have to average per game this year to be a breakout? He scored 15.8 last year. 18.6. I'm going to say 17 and a half.

17 and a half? What he scored last year? 15.8. 15.9. No, he has to be better. All right. Dave, your breakout was Warren, you said? Yeah.

Yes. Jamie busts? These receivers are flying. That was a good call by me, I guess. Jamie, bus tight end? Bus tight end. Let's go with uh who have i been saying i don't remember anymore um i'm ready he's not oh mark andrews sorry mark andrews

dave mark hawkinson or t j anders take your back he's sam lapporte right you see that you just heard the four bus calls of basically mid round tight ends so that should shape your strategy a little bit there but you didn't hear nijoku kelsey is uh round six Yeah, a little too rich. All right. Let's move on to the next portion of our show. DSTs and Kickers. Who wants it?

Oh, yeah. Arizona Cardinals face the Saints in week one. If you just don't want to think about defense until week three, I think they have a good matchup in week two also, right? Carolina. Carolina, which may be a good matchup. Yeah, and they're supposed to have a good defense, so Arizona's good. But basically, the soonest you should take a DST

would be your second to last pick, right? Yes. Is there anything better like when you pass on a player and it comes right back to you next round? Especially when it's a really long wait. You couldn't even believe it. That's when somebody drafts the defense in round 10. That's really fun too.

Yeah, don't. But I don't... Getting the player you wanted a round later is a better feeling. I was going to take R.J. Harvey two rounds ago. And I got two rounds later. That's awesome. It's a great feeling. So what about...

Scott Fish is not happy with him that bad. What about kicker? Because I honestly, like Brandon Aubrey is so good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So here's my strategy. I make sure my league doesn't start kickers. No, come on. No, you're taking one with your last pick.

Oh, this is going to work out. Somebody who could be... Oh, no, it's not. Wait, out of my kicker down. Why, who's available? I'm here you interrupt my kicker talk. Jaylon Hurts is available? here? Are you kidding? You should just

take him. It's too good of value. I know, it is. You can trade him later. Fifty-dives overall. This gets me sick for taking Lamar Jackson in round four. That's ridiculous. Pacheco, it is. Okay. No, kicker, look, kicker's probably going to be one of your last two picks

also. Almost every time our last two picks are going to be our kicker in our defense. Brandon Aubrey is so good, and I had him in a league last year, our Superflex league, and he was such an advantage. If you reached for him around too earlier. I know the other guys would chastise you for it. I wouldn't. I give you. Yeah. I give you I give you that permission. This is making me sick. I almost feel like I should take Jalen Hertz.

I have Allen, but it's 62nd overall. We're in round six here. How is this happening? Do you think you could trade them for a player who's already been taken in this draft? No. If the answer to that question is yes, then you should take them. If the answer to is no, then just accept that you got Alan at a good value, and please take somebody else. It's got fish and saying, take her. Never, ever, ever, except for Adam, draft a second quarterback in the sixth round because you think you'll be able to trade them. If you're league value that, the answer is no, you're not going to make it to round six. Right, exactly.

You're never going to be. You are on the clock. Gosh, I guys, I have no idea who to pick right now. I guess I'm going to go with Jerry Judy again. All right, bye, why not? Did you ever think you'd take Jerry Judy over Jalen Hertz? Take Jerry Judy in two drafts, back-to-back days, both in round six. Sounds like a championship strategy.

Well, it was either him or a Buka, so. Well, you messed up. I mean, I think you're going to win week one. All right, back to the show here. Sorry, folks. Ten team leagues. What changes in ten team leagues the most? taking elite tight end early if you can and lean quarterback early if you can as well i was so thrilled

we did our 10 team draft uh two weeks ago got brock bowers middle round two love that and then lamar jackson in round four love that okay yeah good price yeah so right the onesie positions we you know push them up how about because there's two fewer teams everybody's going to have a good team that's how you can separate your team something that you'll do in a 10 team draft will separate your team from everybody else in the league, it could just as simply be taking a top two tight end and a top three quarterback. You can also, I think in a 10 team league, be a little bit more aggressive with Rushie Rice, be a little bit more aggressive maybe with a Quinn Sean Judkins type.

The guys that you have concern about, it's much easier to replace what losers, players you lose. Maybe even the same thing could be said for some of the older guys you have injury concerns about. 14 team leagues. I'm actually in a 14-team league slow draft right now. And I did not take a quarterback when I typically would. I don't remember what the pick was. I took a wide receiver over like Jalen Hertz or something like that

because I'm going to take advantage of the depth at the position. Dave, what do you think about 14-team leagues? Deeper leagues, but you still want to try and get difference makers in that league as well. I'm more inclined to go after the stud tight ends and probably the stud quarterbacks a little bit more than I would in a 12 team league. Okay. So, you know, 14 team league, Dave is more likely to try to get a stud tight end and quarterback than 12. Or the tight end on the quarterback. I am not.

No, the tight end I kind of feel, right? Because the tight end, you're separating yourself from even more teams if you have one of the elite guys. The quarterback, I think it's easier to be like, oh, man, I got to build out my running back and receiver depth or whatever. I'm just going to wait and take Jared Gough and Caleb Williams or something. I think it's easier to do that. Also, I do not want to have bad running back depth in a deep league because the waiver wire is just completely barren. All right, let's see. Well, I think it's almost worse at wide receiver.

At least maybe a running back will get hurt and will get a surprise running back pop up the wide risk. And that's the problem with this IDP league that I remember from years past is it's a deeper bench. And so there's always just almost nothing available on the waiver wire. That's why I try to wait until like round six and see if I can get a top five quarterback. All right. Non-PPR leagues. Jamie, we did the non-PPR draft yesterday. What was your take away from that?

You can go heavy running back there and, you know, try and piece together your receiving core. And I think I did that. I think I took three running backs. and quarterback, my first four picks. When you're making picks in a non-PPR league, are you guys mostly just thinking touchdowns, touchdowns? Are these guys going to score touchdowns? Yes.

Right, so give me an example of a wide receiver you would take a non-PPR ahead of another wide receiver. Like Garrett Wilson, I really... I'm so glad you said Garrett Wilson. I made that exact call in round five. I took George Pickens over Garrett Wilson. Mike, I would have done to elevate. Right.

Okay, touchdowns are huge. Do you draft half PPR similarly to full PPR? How similar are they, Dave? They're pretty close. Really the only players that you're going to downgrade from PPR to half PPR are the ones that just make their hay on receptions. So somebody like Alvin Camara, who's last year 6.4 targets per game, the only reason why he averages like a huge number every year in full PPR

is because of those catches. You're going to downgrade guys like that. But you're probably going to upgrade players that you're going to take in non-PPR leagues because of the touchdowns, the yardage, stuff just matters a little bit more. What you want, in a full PPR, you probably want your flex to be a wide receiver. In a half PPR league, do you have a preference? You can go either way. You can go either way.

Yeah. Probably in a non-PPR, you want a running back, preferably. Okay. Three receiver league versus two receiver. We've talked so much about that. Do you treat a two-flex league? the same way you would treat a three receiver league, basically? Not necessarily that it has to be a receiver,

but in terms of what it does to quarterback and tight end and things like that, two flex league. And PPR, I do, yes. Right. It comes down to the scoring. Completely agree. So, Pete, I can get into that question. You talk about three receiver leagues, but what about a two flex league?

I basically say treat them the same way, you know? Yep. The fewer roster spot you have, probably the more you're going to want to get the onesie positions early, or the smaller the league, like 10 team. In terms of auctions, we're going to talk about that on the mailbag episode. Oh, I really hate you, Heath. It's been a good couple of rounds.

Yeah, nice. Yeah, you're, ugh. It took Jalen Hertz. What did you take about it? Like 68th? Yeah, 68th, 69. 68th for Jalen Hertz. And then you took Matthew Golden, 77th, and Jamie hated you for both.

of them. I'm sorry. Oh, Superflex. Yeah, we did a Superflex episode on Friday, so I would refer all of you to that. But, Heath, you want to give some quick Superflex advice? You should take the quarterbacks earlier. The top five are going to go in the first six picks probably or should.

And Patrick Mahomes is the one question mark in round one, but I think he should probably go at the end of round one. There may be a little gap after that to where you, kind of clear out the elite players, and then the end of round two, early round three, you get all those borderline QB ones, the Mayfield, golf, DAC, whoever you prefer in that order. I'd like to have three of them, but my need for a third quarterback is strongly dependent on how safe I feel in my first two. How more likely are you this year compared to prior years on punting on quarterback in the first two rounds in a super flex.

Assuming you don't have like, you're picking eighth, you're picking 10th, you know you have no shot at a top five QB. Just curious, because I think I kind of like that strategy. I'm totally with you. I'm not saying that is my strategy, but I'm fine with it if the board falls that way. You know, just you are going to get an amazing value at running back and receiver with those first two picks. And I think just the lay of the land with quarterbacks this year, you can still get two or

three passers that have all kinds of upside and will start theoretically 17 games and you can start getting those guys in rounds three and four i feel like in years passers just been a mad rush for quarterbacks and if you don't take one with at least one of your first two picks you're really missing out look at all three of these guys all three of them are just locked into this mock draft a real draft that's why they're locked in yeah because it's this id p league that they all went away i used to be in this league i kind of wish i was still in it but you are all just like dialed the hell in yeah well one thing i'll say is if you're looking for mid round wide receivers and tight ends you could be risky but i wasn't willing to do it of taking jerry judy and david to joku i think that's putting

a little bit too much faith into the brown one who they put angles right yeah i know i know but and then it's baltimore green bay detroit detroit Minnesota, Pittsburgh. Oh, that's brutal. Yeah, it's rough. By the way, the Jets to start the year are also brutal. The Steelers, the bills, the bucks in their first three games. Not good.

All right. Thanks for watching and listening, everybody. Hey, wait a minute. What about ID? Has there been an individual defensive player taken yet in your graph guys? We just had. Charles Barrett and Zaire Franklin. And we just had Zach go.

Where did that go? Robon. Yep. Zach Bonn and Aidan Hutchinson went 84th and 85th. So I think about round seven or so. But this is, this is a tough one because we start. We start so many IDPs, two linemen, three linebackers, three defensive backs, and a flex. We start nine IDPs, and we have massive benches.

How many rounds is this draft? It's like almost 30, right? 23? 28 rounds. So I can't use this draft as an indicator of what the IDP leagues are going to be like, especially if you're only starting one, two, three IDPs. This is very early for me to start taking IDP. So I took Roquan Smith in round seven, and I took Max Crosby in round eight.

Let me ask you this. Yeah. Serious question. What's the best way to get IDP information right now? So we have two guys in this draft that are fantastic at it. Gary Davenport has kind of been the go-to guy for IDP forever. I actually have him listed in the draft room as godfather of IDP. And then Matt Schauff, I think I'm pronouncing his last name correctly. He does work for draft sharks. Both those guys are unbelievable in IDP information. I think it's the easiest linebacker and defensive back are easy to kind of find

guys on the waiver wire each week defensive. Oh, uh, it's really hard. Sorry, uh, Joe P's PSS, Scott Bogman as well. Yeah, he's great too. Okay, that's cool. Um, the more IDPs you start, the more challenging it is. If you're in a league with only one IDP, then you should

honestly, like, take one before you take your kicker because you're going to be able to find somebody on the waiver. The only exception is if you really want a defensive lineman or an edge rush or whatever the rare position is these days, it's defensive lineman. Wait, we're not able to start, we're not able to start

Travis Hunter at corner, are we in this league? No, no, no. That's one thing. And be fair, that's a great question, Adam. Be very, very careful in your draft room of seeing what position guys like Micah Parsons, the edge rushers, because they have great

value as defensive linemen. They have very little value as linebackers. So it would be very, very careful with the designation is up there. Right, because tackles are the big stat in IDP. Unless they're not. There's some leagues that don't count tackles for anything.

Check your scoring systems. I left my cell phone in the other room an hour and a half ago. I wonder how many texts I have. Thinking probably zero. It's going to be a very humbling moment. All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow. Actually, we'll talk to you on Express.

No, that's tomorrow. Beat Chad Smith. We're going to talk to Chad Smith at 5 o'clock. So we'll talk to you then. Thanks so much for watching listening. Hope this was helpful. Have a great day everyone