Fantasy Football Today - Dynasty Shakeup: Free Agency Moves That Change Everything! (Fantasy Football Dynasty Podcast)
Episode Date: March 12, 2025The free agency chaos has begun, shaking up the Dynasty landscape for Fantasy Football! We break down all the moves like Daniel Jones signing with the Colts (1:00), Justin Fields joining the Jets (9:2...5), Sam Darnold heading to the Seahawks (14:14), and DK Metcalf’s trade to the Steelers (31:50), plus Davante Adams becoming a Ram (34:40). We also analyze Geno Smith’s trade to the Raiders (18:25), Najee Harris joining the Chargers (22:12), Javonte Williams signing with the Cowboys (27:40), and Elijah Mitchell signing with the Chiefs (29:30). Catch insights on other players like Christian Kirk to the Texans (39:05), and the dynasty values of JJ McCarthy (40:10), Breece Hall and Garrett Wilson (41:50), and George Pickens (47:00). Tune in to see how these shifts impact your long-term strategy! Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Fantasy Football Today Dynasty.
I am your host, Heath Cummings,
and boy do we have a great show for you today.
We've got Adam Azer,
we've got Jamie Eisenberg,
we've got free agent and trade news and the dynasty impact.
Listen, I've got an award-winning podcast host here with me,
and he knows that sometimes you make a plan for a show,
and then you get breaking news at the last minute, and you've got to start with the breaking news.
And obviously we had breaking news this morning.
Daniel Jones is an Indianapolis Colts.
Thomas can't have him on the Vikings.
Adam can't have him back on the Giants.
Jones $14 million to compete with Anthony Richardson for the starting job.
Adam, no one's defended Daniel Jones as much as you.
No one's doubted Anthony Richardson as much as you.
Who wins this competition?
Anthony Richardson will win it.
I think he will be the starter in week one.
If they could pull him for Daniel Jones,
this is not one of those situations
where I'm rushing to pick up Josh Downs
after Richardson gets pulled
because I don't think I'm
starting a Colts wide receiver until Richardson's out. But this is not as good as having Joe Flacco
as the backup. So this is a bad situation. But I'll say Richardson is the starter and Daniel Jones.
I've been watching a lot of tape of quarterbacks, Sam Darnold and Aaron Rodgers today, Russell
Wilson, and those guys at least
have the capability of like throwing a guy open. I just never see Daniel Jones do that.
You know, I watched Aaron Rodgers make a back shoulder throw to Devontae Adams about a half
hour ago. And it's just so, so rare to see Daniel Jones do something like that. He is
just a quarterback who cannot process. And I don't even think he can beat out Anthony
Richardson.
So that was awfully negative, Jamie. But if you had Daniel Jones on your super flex roster,
like this is about as good as it gets. You've must hold him through the off season now on
the chance that he could win this battle.
I think if, if the reports are accurate and the two teams he was deciding between were
to stay in Minnesota or go to Indianapolis,
then he had a win-win situation either way for his long-term fan or his short-term fantasy appeal because this is probably a one-year situation unless he obviously blows the doors off the
Colts offense and looks fantastic. But yes, he was going to back up most likely to shaky
quarterbacks or quarterback situations McCarthy
you know not having a resume yet and
Richardson's resume being very incomplete. So
He went to a situation where I hope you know, and I'm glad Adam brought up the name Sam
Donald I hope that you know, he went through the Kevin O'Connell car wash and
He learned a little bit more about the position and understands a little bit more about the position
It can translate some of those things in the time that he spent in Minnesota
To whatever action he gets in Indianapolis
And so it would not be a surprise if he's the starter from week one on because Richardson has a shaky preseason
I agree with that
I still think Richardson's gonna be the starter there because if you're giving up on him now it really you know is
Not necessarily a setback to the franchise, but it's a setback to the franchise You know to invest in a high draft pick on a quarterback like this and then to giving up on him now, it really is not necessarily a setback to the franchise, but it's a setback to the franchise to invest in a high draft pick on a quarterback like
this and then to give up on him three years in.
Richardson as we know, spent some time this off season working with a quarterback guru
and hopefully that pans out and he looks better throwing the ball.
These are two guys that have a lot to prove and so it's going to be fun to see how this
all plays out. I will disagree with Adam on the Josh
down things. The one thing we know that Daniel Jones did was
throw to a slot receiver and have some success with that. So
you know, that might help them out really. Well, he did
throwing shepherd or he was was was good. Wanda Robbins
looking pretty modest, modest because it was the number one
receiver on the team. You know, I think Michael Pittman is still there.
I don't know.
You're going to need a lot more.
Could he be like Wando Robinson and catch six passes and PPR his way into being startworthy?
Sure.
It's not going to elevate him to...
At times he was a damn good fantasy option, Josh Downs.
They don't have Joe Flacco.
We can agree on that.
I would much rather have Flacco. If I had a wide receiver, I'd much rather have Flacco throwing
to him than either Jones or Rich. Yes, this signing is not necessarily
making things better for Michael Pittman, Josh Downs. And I don't know about Alec Pierce,
because I think Richardson's probably good for Alec Pierce, just the things that he does. But
in any event, yes, this is not the best thing for
the receivers and it will be fun to watch these guys compete for the starting. Later on the show
today, we are going to talk about Justin Fields, Sam Darnall, Gino Smith, Najee Harris, Javante
Williams, DK Metcalf, Devante Adams and more on Friday. I have Davis Maddock coming on. We'll talk
about whatever happens the rest of this week and the guys who stayed on their teams, at least so
far in the case of T Higgins. But we always start with three questions for our guests and the first
one can be a quick one. Who is going to be the starting quarterback for the New York Giants in
2025? Me, Cam Ward might as well be me. I think it'll be Cam Ward. I think they're going to get
desperate and trade up and get Cam Ward. Jamie? Ward or Shader Sanders.
Ward or Shader Sanders.
Okay.
No vet going to start for the Giants.
I kind of hope that's the case.
As of today, Jamie, what are your top three landing spots for a rookie running back?
Chicago Bears, one.
Las Vegas Raiders, two. and Pittsburgh Steelers, three.
Do you agree with those three, Adam? And did the answer change yesterday because
Nazi Nazi Harris went to the chargers? Yeah, yeah. I think, I think Swift is too good
for a rookie running back unless it's gente to just come in and take the job and it just,
you know, relegate swift to the bench.
So I was looking for an opportunity to be a three down back.
I have Denver one.
I know they use a lot of running backs, but those guys all stink.
And they actually have one of the best offensive lines in football.
PFF gave them, have them as the second best offensive line in 2024 behind Philadelphia.
ESPN pass block and run block win rate very
high. I think number one, maybe for both of them, for Denver, for both of those categories.
I have the Raiders on there. I think, you know, I like, I like what they did, you know,
Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly. It just sort of reminds me of Greg Roman and, and, and
John Harbaugh, Jim, Jim Harbaugh, sorry. Just like they're going to be better, you know,
competent and be a good spot for running back.
So I do agree with Las Vegas.
I still have Dallas on there.
I don't take Javante Williams too seriously.
One year, $3 million contract.
So I think Javante could be a third down back
because he's been a very good pass blocker,
but I think it's pretty easy to come in
and beat him out as a running back.
So I go Denver, Raiders, Dallas.
And finally, the third question.
We've had a couple of a second year
players who were, I think, free agent losers so far, Ben Senate, because
Zach Ertz stayed there, Jaylen McMillan, because Chris Godwin stayed there.
What type of rookie pick, Adam, would you give up for Jaylen
McMillan or Zach Ertz?
I had two second round picks before I made the Jayden Daniels trade in our
dynasty league, I would not have given up 2. made the Jaden Daniels trade in our dynasty league.
I would not have given up 2.3 for Jaden Daniels or Ben Sinnott.
I would give up 2.3 for Jaden Daniels.
For Jaylen McMillan or Ben Sinnott.
But 2.11 I have and I would consider that.
I think mid to late second round pick is where we start talking about those guys.
Jamie, I was thinking not a top 18 picks,
not the first half of round two,
but somewhere in the second half of round two
for both those guys, that sound about right?
I would give up a mid second round pick for Jalen McMillan,
maybe even early second round pick for McMillan,
depending on the situation of my team.
Cause if you're picking early in the second round,
you're probably a rebuilding roster.
Senate could be a little bit tougher
just because if they're doing this, they're kind of telling
us that they don't trust him yet.
And if they don't trust him now, are they going to trust him in year three of what could
be a two-year window of being the commander's tight end and then he's maybe chasing another
roster and hopefully it's not another Michael Maher situation of a talented player that
doesn't get an opportunity because he may or may not be ready.
So I would not probably give up a second round pick.
It'd probably be a third round pick at best for Ben Sennett.
And I think the optimistic case on Ben Sennett is that Zach Ertz is going to play the first
seven games of the year and then get hurt.
And he just follows the Trey McBride path perfectly because McBride had Ertz come back
for year two and then Earth got hurt.
Um, but listen, Earth was, I wouldn't want to say he was really good last year,
but he was really serviceable.
And I think it will help as a security blanket to Jayden Daniels.
So I understand why they brought him back.
Let's take our first break.
When we come back, we'll talk about the free agent and traded quarterbacks.
So I put these guys in order by position of how I currently have them ranked in dynasty
now.
Justin Fields, one of the biggest movers in my dynasty rankings, because going into the
off season, I really didn't know if he'd get a starting opportunity this year.
And now it feels like not only does he get to compete, but he probably is the week one
starter for the New York Jets.
Jamie, he moved from QB 25 up to QB 16 in my dynasty rankings.
Best case scenario, how much higher did Justin Fields go in the dynasty rankings this season?
It wouldn't surprise me.
I mean, he's still young enough that he could be a top 12 quarterback. You know, if he, you know,
takes hold of the new system for the Jets and can turn Garrett Wilson into what
he had with DJ Moore,
at least to give himself the opportunity to prove that he can throw the ball and
develop a good rapport with the guy that he knows. I mean,
this was a receiver that he played with two years in college in terms of
Wilson.
He's never run game to support him in Breece Hall and hopefully they continue
to build out the offensive line for the Jets.
But I mean, what this guy does with his legs, I don't think people really understand.
He's one of three quarterbacks in NFL history with a thousand yards on his resume.
Like, you know, that's Lamar Jackson, Michael Vick and Justin Fields.
You know, he ran for 1143 yards in 2022.
And so he's been a very good fantasy quarterback. Forget about what you think
of him as an NFL quarterback and let's give him some respect. The Steelers were 4-2 last year in
the six games that he started. So he can win if needed and plays a ball control offense. And as
we saw in the final four games as a starter last year, he was averaging over 24 fantasy points per game. You know, that's amazing.
So yes, this is a great situation for him to just be a starter.
And so hopefully the environment around him is successful enough that he's not asked to
have to go out and win games in the fourth quarter.
He's not that type of guy.
You know, he's not going to be a we're down 17 points, 14 points, go go win us a game
consistently. He'll do it every now and then obviously, but he's not going to do it consistently.
So if they're in situations where they're competitive, which is hard to expect his first
year there, I just think this is a good opportunity for him with some nice pieces around him,
get another receiver, hopefully a tight end, some easy throws. And we could see Justin
Fields 20 plus per game consistently, which is what he's done
every time he's been a starting quarterback.
Adam, I want to talk about the guys who are just above him in the rankings and how realistic
do you think it is that if Justin Fields does well, he could pass these guys during the
season in terms of dynasty value?
A lot of them, most of them in fact are younger than Fields who will be 26 at the start of
this season.
Still very young for a quarterback.
But CJ Stroud, could you see Justin Fields ahead of CJ Stroud in dynasty rankings at
some point in this calendar year?
Can I just say you're probably asking the wrong person because I just don't believe
in Fields' dynasty value because I don't think he's a winning starting quarterback.
I think he's always going to be a borderline must start quarterback in fantasy when he's
the starter, but I just, I don't think he's a good enough passer and I don't think he's
going to be a starter for the rest of his career.
I think he's going to bounce around.
So no, I don't, I don't think he'll get ahead of CJ Stroud.
Anthony Richardson.
Yes.
A hundred percent.
Drake May.
No chance. Bonyx. No. Kyler Murray. Yes. A hundred percent Drake may no chance.
Bonyx.
No.
Kyler Murray.
No.
Brock Burti.
No.
Okay.
So you think like 16 is just as bad.
And the funny, I've used the guys ahead of him because I'm ranking
Justin Fields alongside 32 year old quarterbacks who are definitely going to start
this year and next year, but don't have near as much upside.
I think it's better probably to compare them to those younger guys who haven't, most of
those guys haven't delivered the fantasy production that Fields has.
Whereas it's with the older guys, it's probably more about like, are you contending right
now or are you looking for long-term upside?
Yeah. And so he's going to a Jets team that doesn't have a good offensive line that's done nothing about like, are you contending right now or are you looking for long-term upside?
Yeah, and so he's going to a Jets team
that doesn't have a good offensive line,
that's done nothing to address that so far,
that lost Morgan Moses, that has one good wide receiver.
So, you know, and they have the seventh pick, I think,
eighth pick, something like that.
So like they can address it.
It's not necessarily a great situation.
I don't know that he's set up for success.
I hope they're gonna have a more creative, they will have a more creative offense, but, um, and then
Tarantel is a decent backup so I could see him losing his job. I'm just, I'm not super bullish.
I'm not making a dynasty trade of anything more than a late, I think a late mid to late second
round pick on Justin Fields. It's probably worth the gamble in superflicks. Yeah, I should go
higher than early second round pick. I would not give up a first round pick for Justin Fields, but I go higher than that early second round pick.
I would not give up a first round pick for Justin Fields, but I'd give up an early second round pick for him.
It's worth the gamble because he's so valuable.
But I still think there's a possibility that he's, you know, is like a six week starter and then we're talking about him on a new team next year.
So I'm going to stay with you because one of the guys he passed in the rankings was Sam Darnold, who actually falls from 22 to 23, mostly because
Justin Fields passed him. But I'm just not very excited about Sam Darnold on the Seahawks.
And I know that you are the biggest Sam Darnold fan. So give me the optimistic case for Sam
Darnold.
I don't know why people think I'm the biggest Sam Darnold fan. Yeah, look, I probably watched like 140 dropbacks
of Darnold yesterday and I cannot take away this fact. He made some great throws last year.
He threw a lot of open receivers and he benefited from Minnesota and he's going to
a coordinator that, you know, Clint Kubiak who has history with him and came from San Francisco
and did some decent things in Northern, whatever, Like there's a chance that he's going to benefit from just not being
on the jets. Uh, he's a good deep ball thrower. I think that's pretty much all I got for Darnold.
Like he might rush for 250 yards. That's not bad. I have like no interest. I'm not super
excited about him. I do think that in a dynasty league, I like where you have them, you know,
he could be a low end super flex guy. Uh, but I don't like this situation at all. This team wants to run it. They have one wide receiver who's
a slot wide receiver. Uh, I just, I don't like that. And they haven't addressed their
offensive lines as far as I know. So, Oh no, they got somebody, but they got like a swing
tackle. So, and that was a big issue for them. Uh, they, they signed Josh Jones, who's been
a backup in his career on their offensive line.
I said, I don't know why you want me to make the optimistic case.
Optimistic case is low end super flex number two quarterback.
Jamie, this feels like if I'm in a super flex league, this is a really good opportunity
to say, hey, look, Sam Darnold is going to be a starting quarterback for at least the
next two years.
Who wants to trade for him?
I would agree. I'll give you two examples in two
dynasty leagues that I have where one we're in together where my quarterbacks are Anthony
Richardson and Justin Herbert and that's it. If I can get Darnold cheap, I would obviously try to
do so just to have a third quarterback. Then another one where I have Gino Smith, Matthew
Stafford and JJ McCarthy. Again, if I can get a guy like darnold cheap, I would I would try to do so
so
You the the commitment is there financially for him to be the starter for this year and then they could you know
Kind of get out of it. I think if they need to
uh pass this
Uh, my guess is they're not looking at darnold to come in and be an mvp
I think they would love it if he does but I don't think that's the expectation
I think the idea is for him to be a little bit better
than Geno Smith, win some games, don't turn the ball over,
and hopefully build off the success that he's had,
which is why he's getting paid what he is.
And he said he took less money
because he wants to give the Seahawks a chance
to build around him.
I don't know how much I believe that.
This was the market for him.
It's a good contract, it's not an overpay.
And I think the Seahawks did something smart because if Geno Smith was asking for $40 million
a year, you get Sam Darnold $10 million less, I'd make that move too, especially since
he's four years younger.
So Adam mentioned it, the Minnesota car wash, the San Francisco car wash, he spent the last
two years in some good systems.
So hopefully learning from Kyle Shanahan and Kevin O'Connell and Adam said, Kubiak was on that 49er staff when they were there, that they can do some good
things.
It's just a team you got to see build out a little bit more and hopefully allow him
to have good weapons because the thing that I think made him so successful in Minnesota
was great weapons and, you know, on top of a great play caller.
And so if he can have some things, you know, around him that'll help, then it'll be interesting.
So I think you have him ranked appropriately.
I think in the 20s, low 20s makes some sense.
We'll see if you have Cam Ward ahead of him
or Shader Sanders ahead of him,
depending on their destinations.
And maybe a Jackson Dart or somebody else
that gets an opportunity to potentially start.
But Donald's not exactly somebody
I think you should be overpaying for.
I do agree with you if you have him on your team because he's probably,
uh, may have been starting for you last year, but probably was your third
quarterback going into the season or even fourth quarterback that you should
absolutely be shopping him to a team like mine that, that could use some,
some quarterback help and, uh, hopefully he can work out some sort of fair
compensation.
Adam puts in the private chat.
I just made a Donald trade offer.
I, I am really, like,
I almost don't want to expose you for how bad this offer probably is.
What do you think?
But I'm going to go ahead and let you say what do you offer? 211 and a 2026 second.
I only offered 211.
That's an awful trade off.
Well, they need him.
He's got, he's got like burrow and another probably doesn't need whoever's going to go at two 11 either.
Jamie, the guy he replaced was Gino Smith and he's just kind of stayed at QB 28 for me.
I don't know that I know that there's a real difference between
Darnold and Gino Smith.
I'm not sure.
I think Seattle saved money.
I'm not sure they upgraded, but it feels like the situation for Gino, at least right now, is definitely a downgrade. You
go from DK and JSN to Brock Bowers and Jacobi Myers. He's 34 years old. If they sign him to
an extension, then maybe he moves up a little bit in the rankings. But I'm not sure that I really view Gino as a top 25 quarterback in dynasty. Yeah, the only thing I
might disagree with you though, is the situation. Because if you just look at it, he was losing Met
Kafe and he was losing Lockett. So if he had stayed in Seattle, this was going to be the same type of
setup for him, no matter what. And so I think to go to Chip Kelly, to leave what was going to be the same type of setup for him no matter what. And so I think to go to Chip Kelly, to leave what was going to be the system in Seattle,
to go to Brock Bowers and Jacoby Myers and maybe another receiving threat if they decide
to pull the trigger early in the draft or maybe take a wide receiver around too.
I don't know all their draft picks, but I think the system is probably better.
The offensive line is definitely better.
Playing indoors I think is going to be better and The offensive line is definitely better. Playing indoors, I think is gonna be better.
And maybe with some shootouts,
given the fact that he's gotta play the Chiefs twice,
although they don't really have shootouts anymore.
But Broncos game could be high scoring.
So the Chargers game could be high scoring.
If those teams decide to allow their quarterbacks to throw,
we could see that happening.
But in any event,
I think Gino will give you some production with his legs.
Yes, the age is clearly the biggest concern. And look, they may still draft a
quarterback, you know, if they decide, okay, we didn't trade for Gino to be our long term
guy, we traded for Gino to be our short term guy and a bridge quarterback to the rookie.
So you may, you know, see an extension and then see a draft pick, you know, so he may
go up in your rankings and then down in your rankings, you know, in a matter of two months. But I do think that from what he was leaving 2024,
not the best situation. What he was leaving right now, Seattle to the Raiders, I do think is an
upgrade for him. So if I'm in a short term, so like, again, you know, compare Darnold and
Geno Smith, if I'm looking at, okay, I need somebody for 2025. I'd rather have Gino Smith. If I need
somebody for the next three years, then obviously I'm taking a chance on
Darnold because of age.
We had a question from the chat from Wednesday says Sam will be working next
year. Fields. And that leads to the next question, Adam, rank fields, Darnold and Gino Smith, not on the likelihood they're starting next year,
but in 2027, 2027, 2027.
So Gino will be 36 years old.
Darnold will be in the third year of his three year deal.
That's not guaranteed.
And fields will be 29.
It'll basically be, has he been good enough?
Fields is going to be last
2027. I'm going to say Gino Smith, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields.
You agree with that order, Jamie?
No, I would say fields one, Donald to gene. I think Gino could be out of the league by then just because his age. Uh, it wouldn't surprise me to have Darnold and fields or backups,
but I'll just play the age. Right.
Percentage. Yeah. I, I think like,
and even the idea that Darnold's def definitely going to be starting next year.
No, if he completely regresses, like they'll just eat that.
Like we've seen teams eating big contracts here recently.
If he's not good
at all, then he probably won't be starting for all of next year. Let's move over to the
running backs. Not quite as exciting, but Najee Harris going to the Chargers is a positive
development for him. I think you have to be really careful with any running back who signs
in free agency. Cause we've seen this happen before a team signs them. We think, Oh, they're
the starter.
And then they draft somebody in round two and that guy's actually better.
But nausea gets a one year deal with the chargers moves up from RB 32 to RB 27.
In my running back rankings, Jamie, does he become like a real contender
trade target if the chargers don't add another significant running back?
Absolutely. I mean, you know, they, uh, they, they made JK Dobbins great again.
You know, clearly Dobbins more explosive. The one thing about Najee,
and I think this plays into, you know, a team like the Chargers,
I thought the Raiders would have made some sense also in, in,
in trying to get him just in terms of looking at the coaches,
he does not miss games and he does not fumble. And
so while you don't have the explosiveness, because we certainly have seen that Adam harps
on this constantly about his lack of 30 yard runs or 36 yard runs, whatever you're doing.
He's never had a 40 yard run in his career. He has the second most carries in football
in that span. He does not have a single 40 yard run.
He's the only running back and probably in a short list of players that if you're looking
on our YouTube right now, uh, has played 68 games over the last four years and not missed
a game.
And he's got three fumbles on his career, uh, on his resume.
I don't know about playoffs, but three fumbles in the regular season.
So that's appealing to a coach.
And then you start to dissect a little bit.
Okay.
He's got four, three, four seasons of a thousand yards rushing, he's got four seasons of at least six receptions, and he's got three seasons of at least 36 catches. And so he showed us as a rookie, he could certainly be a good pass catcher when given that opportunity.
But again, you know, what are you looking for out of your backfield? So if you're looking for a home run hitter, he's not that guy. If you're looking for a guy that's going to, you know, put his nose down and hopefully get you a couple yards, you know, when you need it, then I think he's not that guy. If you're looking for a guy that's gonna you know put his nose down and hopefully get you a couple yards you know when you need it then I think he's certainly suitable
and by the end of the season his numbers will look somewhat okay uh just not exactly you know
league winning for fantasy or or probably difference making for an NFL roster. So how much
do they invest in this backfield? Well they have you know Hassan Haskins who's got a tie to Harbaugh
from Michigan. They have Kamani Vidal who we didn't get to see much of last year.
But they showed us last year what they wanted.
They wanted guys that they knew in terms of Dobbins and Edwards.
They wanted a plotter in Edwards who, you know, didn't necessarily do what he did in
Baltimore who knows how much of that was because of the knee injury that he sustained, you
know, prior to coming to the Chargers.
I think it's a good fit, you know, and so
I don't know if it's a day two running back. I think we could see maybe a day three guy
You know guy number 10 11 12 in the class
Going to this team and another Kamani Vidal type of guy
But in any event, I think it's a huge win for Naji to go to this team, you know, he was
Going to be the one guy for me at least, you know,
cause Aaron Jones in his thirties, um, you know, I'm trying to think of all the
guys in the class, Javante Williams, not inspiring.
Um, you know, where was he going to end up?
You know, Dallas, Cleveland, chargers, Broncos, you know, like Raiders, like
he's going to be the one that I think is going to
You know sort of have an opportunity here and and I like it for him
so I think I'm ranked appropriately because the one-year deal, you know, and he's you know entering the
the the age 27 years old of not exactly a lot of life left, especially with all the miles on his body, but
For a short-term window like if you're dynasty team, like this is the type of guy,
type of guy you go get that can, you know,
get you through a season as a number to running back.
Adam, I'm not sure I've ever seen a more consistent pro football reference
player page between 1034 and 1043 rushing yards each of the last three years
between 15 and 16 rush attempts each of the last three years between 1.7 and 2.4
catches per game each of the last three years. We just know
like he's going to get 15 carries a game. He's going to
catch two passes a game. He's going to be a borderline RB to
he is who he is.
He is who he is. I think with one with with two let me give
you an upside and a downside. Downside is you look at the last four games, I think of last five games, including the
playoffs. He didn't have more than 13 carries in any of those games. They were all losses,
they were all losses. Three of them were by more than 14 points, actually include the
postseason. Four of them were like blowout losses. So Jaylen Warren was almost as involved, not more involved than Najee Harris down the stretch.
And I think they might have gotten a little bit tired of him, but also he is a little
game script dependent.
So really the split that I look at is wins versus losses.
It's pretty unbelievable in his career.
Najee Harris has averaged 75 rushing yards per game in wins and 46 and a half
rushing yards per game in losses.
He gets game scripted out, especially after his rookie year, where he had 73
catches, like he doesn't play on third down anymore.
I think the Chargers present an opportunity to be a pretty damn good team this year.
Right.
Nick, I could see them flirting with 11, 12 wins.
I could see him scoring more touchdowns finally,
because he needs to score.
He's just not an explosive player,
but that's the best case scenario for him
is that the Chargers do better,
use him a little bit more, and he scores more touchdowns.
That would be the upside.
The second biggest running back signing, I guess, so far,
although I think Elijah Mitchell maybe got more money,
Javante Williams to the Cowboys.
I am definitely more skeptical Adam that Gervonta Williams is going to be the
starting running back for the Cowboys.
And I am not Gihara's is going to be for the Chargers, but he does move up a
little bit from RB 37 to RB 35.
Do you think like they did just go through a year where they decided they were fine
with Rico Dowell as they're starting running back, is there a chance that they just are cheap at this position now and Givante is the starter?
And I would just bring back Rico Dowdle at this point.
I don't know what Givante Williams does well anymore.
ESPN had a stat, if I could find it here, that it was, it was, they cited next gen stats.
And what I think it was is he had the slowest top speed of any running back in football with more
than a certain amount of carries, but getting to the line of scrimmage. So you could look at that.
He was basically the slowest accelerator in the NFL at running back. He hasn't had a carry longer
than 21 yards in his last three seasons. That includes an injury short and one. So the knee
injury just destroyed Jevonte Williams. It wasn't just an ACL. It was a multiple ligament injury. He just has not been good, not been
explosive at all. I don't know what he's good at, but pass blocking is one thing that he is good at.
So I wonder if they brought him in, honestly, to be a third down back. Kind of like maybe what
Cincinnati could have done with Zach Moss, because Zach Moss was a great pass protector.
They could have just made Chase Brown the running downs back and Moss could have been the passing
downs back, but they didn't do that. They should have. I don't, yeah, I agree. I don't
think he's a starting running back for them. I'm not taking this all that seriously, but
if they are cheap with it, Rico Dowdle was really good. Weeks 12 through 18, he was the
number 18 running back per game and the averaged 4.8 yards per carry.
Giovante could get that kind of work. I don't think he gets that yards per carry, but maybe he gets like 4.1, 4.2 and be usable.
Jamie, I mentioned Elijah Mitchell to the chiefs.
I, I think he's probably more of a contingency plan of if Isaiah Pacheco
doesn't ever regain his explosiveness.
He did move way up in the rankings from RB 135 to RB 97, but I think he's
probably on the waiver wire in a lot of dynasty leagues that like over what
happened over the last year, especially if you didn't have enough IR spots,
Mitchell was the kind of guy who would get dropped.
Are you making an effort at least if he's available to go pick them up?
Yeah.
I mean, you know, this is a guy that's,
assuming the hamstring is okay, you know,
you don't see hamstring surgery knocking somebody out
for a full season, you know, the 49ers had the luxury
of having so many backup running backs that
they probably felt that they didn't need him
or it was really just that bad.
But this is a guy that's missed a lot of time, you know,
so there's a bad injury track record here for him. And since his rookie season, when he replaced Raheem Mosterd after the first,
I think drive, but certainly first quarter, uh, when, when he got hurt,
I remember it cause he was my start of the week that week.
Um, you know, Elijah Mitchell, his rookie campaign, he averaged
15 PPR points per game, and then he just hasn't, you know, ever gotten the chance.
But when he's gotten opportunities, he's certainly looked the part.
But is that looking the part in San Francisco
and just being, hey, it's the next man up,
or can he actually do that on another team?
I think the positive is the landing spot.
So Pacheco, will he regain his explosiveness?
Because when he came back in week 13
after the broken leg from week two,
he just was clearly not the same guy.
And the Chiefs went with Kareem Hunt at his age.
And so I think he
offers an upgrade over Hunt just in terms of what he can do from an explosive standpoint, will he
be as serviceable and stay healthy? So if they go into the season with a backfield trio of Pacheco,
Mitchell and Carson Strong, then it's a great situation for Mitchell, probably a great situation
for Pacheco. They tell you that they're telling us that they feel pretty confident he can regain his form. I wouldn't be surprised if they still had somebody else. Like you said, it's a great situation for Mitchell. Probably a great situation for Pacheco. They tell you that they're telling us that they feel pretty confident
that he can regain his form.
I wouldn't be surprised if they still had somebody else.
Like you said, you know,
it's a one year, $3 million deal for Javante Williams.
It's like $3.5 million on a one year deal
for Elijah Mitchell.
That's nothing, you know.
So can still draft a guy, can still sign somebody else.
Wouldn't be surprising if the Chiefs backfield
is still not completely done.
Moving over to the wide receiver position, I get really sad when I think about DK Metcalf
going to the Pittsburgh Steelers and signing a five-year contract. It's great for him,
lots of money, but he did actually fall in my dynasty rankings and it's rare for a wide
receiver in his mid-20s to get a long extension for that type of money and go down. But I just, after what we've seen the last couple of years from DK and now going to an Arthur
Smith offense on a team that doesn't have a quarterback, Jamie, do we ever see another
wide receiver one season from DK Metcalf?
Probably not unless they end up with a quarterback and they finally hit on somebody in the draft
or trade for somebody.
But I mean, you think about the guys that they're considering right now, 41-year-old
Aaron Rodgers bringing back a 37-year-old Russell Wilson.
They're not going to be high enough in the draft unless they make a blockbuster trade
to go get a Kam Ward or a Schroeder Sanders. So I was, you know, not to go on a tangent,
but between DK Metcalf and Juju Smith Schuster, has there been anybody that has like been
on the cusp of being like a top three or actually a top three to five dynasty receiver that
has just never materialized to living up to the potential of these two guys? Um, I mean, I shouldn't even say it, but I kind of want to say it.
And we're going to talk about them after the second break.
But is Garrett Wilson on that path?
Oh yeah, maybe.
Um, but yeah, I know, but, but DK, like Juju had a 1400 yard season.
DK was close to that, 1300 yards in 2020.
So I feel you Jamie, like the trajectory looked amazing
for Metcalf.
If I were gonna make the case for him to be a wide receiver,
one, it would be a McLaurin type season where he,
cause that's kind of who I compare him to right now.
Like he's a solid, he's number two, borderline,
two, three receiver every year.
Pretty much last year was disappointing.
If he does have a year where he just catches a lot of touchdowns, that's the path. But no, I don't
really see him being.
There are a lot of wide receivers who have that path. Like if I go score 12 touchdowns,
I could see him with Metcalf because he's always getting end zone targets. Yeah. But
sorry to cut you off, Jamie.
No, no, no. I mean, it's, uh, I agree. I don't, I don't see it. You know, it's, um, it's,
it's just not, doesn't, doesn't seem feasible with what they're looking at in terms of who
they're signing. Now, Rodgers obviously was great for Devontae Adams in the short span
of just the recent tenure with those two guys together with the Jets. So he can have that.
It wouldn't surprise me if he has a 10 touchdown season, but it's got to be a lot of touchdowns.
And Arthur Smith's system in that weather, in that environment, you know, against the defenses that they're
going to be facing. No, I don't, I don't think so.
Adam, Devontae Adams is closer to DK in my dynasty rankings than I'm comfortable with
because he's 32 years old and that age is terrifying for wide receivers. But we talked
about it yesterday. I'm pretty optimistic about the situation there in los angeles at least this year he's going to have a good quarterback.
The rams clearly as close as they are to cooper cup view davante adams is a significant upgrade or they wouldn't have given out and adams all this money and paid cut.
Do away like we think they're getting ready to is Is there any other, any wide receiver over 30
that you would rather trade for as a contender
than Devonte Adams?
Over 30.
Over 30.
How old is Tyreek Hill?
31.
I think he will be 31.
He just turned 31 March 1st.
Tyreek Hill I'm fairly high on.
I do think most of his struggles
were injury related last year.
He came into the season injured and got re-injured when he got arrested.
So Tyree kill would be the answer there.
Other than that, no, I can't think of any one.
I think I'd have to put Evans ahead of Adams.
They're both 32.
I would have to put Evans ahead of Adams.
Yeah. So Jamie, you have taken the mantle over the last, uh, 15 months of the
ageist of the show.
And, uh, I know that I can redraft.
You've been down on these guys.
What, what is the guts?
You've got a team that's a true contender.
What's the most you'd give up for a guy like Adams.
True contender.
Yep.
Um, late first, I mean, I think he can, he can still give you top 20 up for a guy like Adams. True contender? Yeah.
Late first. I mean, I think he can still give you top 20 production.
I mean, like you said, this was the perfect landing spot for him.
You know, he's going to a situation, doesn't have to be the guy.
He's got a great coach, great play caller.
Roll is there.
Concentrated targets are there.
You know, so it's, it's as good a situation as you could ask for, but I got to be like my team is you know, we start three
receivers and two flexes and this is you know, a must-start player. Like I give
example, I had a in your dynasty, 14 team league, I traded Ricky Pearsall for
Stephon Diggs, so a very similar situation. You know know, Pierce all was I think I had the 12th pick
I took him 12th out of 14 last year in the rookie draft
We were four or five games into the season
I didn't like because I had a bunch of injuries at McCaffrey whatever and so I was like I need to sort of
stable the my lineup here and I don't know if Pierce all is ever gonna become
Superstar let me go get Stefan Diggs on a rental. He was looking good with the Texans
So it's a very similar situation.
I think if you feel pretty confident in your roster,
you should give up a late first for DeVon Thames.
I mean, ideally you try to give up a second.
I think he's definitely worth that.
But if you feel like your team is a player away, yeah.
He's not, I don't think he's more than at best 15,
16 PPR points per game.
That's still pretty good.
You know, so you go get that.
It'd be very good.
I think just one is that like, I just to clarify,
you obviously are gonna have to pay more
for Tyreek Hill than Devante Adams.
You probably have to pay more for Mike Evans
and Devante Adams.
The best value might be Devante Adams,
but I still like Hill and Evans better.
And I will say like in my dynasty rankings right now,
it's Hill just not ahead of Don
T. Adams by much at all. I view them pretty much the same with Evans behind those guys.
So I think perception wise, you're right.
And just one more thing of potential, you know, if you're playing this out and you can
say the same thing about Stafford who's battled back injuries. Puka's injury history in college, not good.
Missed six games last year, five games last year with a knee injury.
If he misses time, we know what Stafford does with one guy.
He took the Rams to a Super Bowl with Cooper Cup having one of the best seasons
ever for wide receiver, triple crown winner that year.
He was 11 to 14 targets per game for Pukunakua down the stretch last year with Cooper Cup
was struggling.
Like he can make Devante Adams still very relevant even at his age if Pukunakua misses
any time.
I will say with Adams and trading for him in dynasty right now, this is the type of
guy where leading up to the draft when picks get a little bit more valuable, I'd probably be more willing, I'd be
great with trading an early second.
If I'm going to trade a first, I'm probably going to wait until September
and make sure Devante Adams is still healthy and then just trade next year's
first, so it's not losing something that would help me win this year.
But yeah, try to see if you can get him for a second right now.
If you can't, and he's still good to go at the start of the year.
I, I think I'm one of the best teams in the league.
I'd give up that 20, 26 first.
We got one more wide receiver talk about Christian Kirk goes to the Texans up
from wide receiver 62 to wide receiver 49.
Is he anything more Adam than just a wide receiver four with wide receiver three
upside at this point?
Yeah, I think in full PPR, he's wide receiver. He's a wide receiver three with, you know,
wide receiver 20 overall upside. I do think he could have that kind of season. But I mostly
agree with you. I don't expect I don't expect more than like a top 30 finish for Christian Kirk. You talked about Najee
Harris, we know who he is. I think we know what Christian
Kirk is. He's in the slot. He's gonna have to rely a lot on
catches. He's not going to score a ton of touchdowns. But I really
like this for Stroud. I like this for the Texans. It's a good
real life trade for them. I don't know if it's a huge
needle mover for fantasy.
Let's take our second break. When we come back, we'll talk
about some of the guys who were impacted by these moves. So Jamie, I mentioned a lot of young quarterbacks when we were talking
about Justin Field, Anthony Richardson, all those guys. And the name, one name I didn't mention
was JJ McCarthy because I do have them ranked slightly behind that group. But I think it's been
a pretty good week for JJ McCarthy. Sam Darnold's not coming back. Daniel Jones isn't coming back. Maybe they go trade for Sign Rogers, but man, I hope not for Minnesota Vikings fans.
Does JJ McCarthy have a chance to jump into that high NQB2, low NQB1 conversation?
For sure.
You know, especially when you mentioned Drake May, you know, I mean, that was a big
conversation, right?
Going into a lot of last year's rookie drafts was, you know, May and his upside versus
McCarthy and his landing spot.
And I think, you know, if you're in the McCarthy camp, if you were in the
McCarthy camp prior to that, and then you just watch what Sam Darnold did, like,
Oh my God, how are you not excited?
You know, and he did that with, uh, not a hundred percent of TJ Hockinson, you
know, so getting a, you know, offensive line, hopefully, you know, with, with
Christian Darasaw back at, and if he's ready to go with
the system, play caller, Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, T.J.
Hockeson.
Yeah, he's got the opportunity here to be superstar if things go right.
Because I think he's not a better prospect than Sam Donald, but at least at this point
in their careers, a better opportunity to take a step forward.
So it's an unbelievable setup for him.
So yes, he belongs in that top 15 range.
If you buy into him being healthy and being ready to go.
Adam, I got a lot of questions yesterday about dynasty value for
Breece Hall and Garrett Wilson and how much Justin Fields crushed them.
And we talked about how, you know, we were, we were down on
Garrett Wilson and Hall and Redraft,
but it's probably just one year for Fields as a starter, right?
I haven't dropped Hall that much in the dynasty rankings.
He's still a top six dynasty running back for me.
Wilson's fallen a little bit more, but that kind of happened before Fields was at it.
He's wide receiver 16 in dynasty.
How worried are you that we just never really get what we
thought we were going to get from these two players?
I'm fairly worried. Well, you know, when you talk about what we thought we were going to
get, they were both first round picks in a lot of leagues, right? Like always, obviously
the top five pick and Garrett Wilson, I'm guessing his ADP was in the second round,
but early in the second round. Look, I think the fact that he gets Justin Fields, that's a downgrade, but the fact that he doesn't
have Devante Adams, that's a huge upgrade. He was on pace for 190 targets for the Adams trade.
He was on pace for 134 targets after the Adams trade. I think 134 targets is pretty realistic
in 17 games with Justin Fields.
So what was he in that stretch?
He wasn't that good, unfortunately.
His wide receiver 26 per game,
but I don't see any reason why that can't be more
like wide receiver 18 per game.
Just needs to do a little bit better with the targets.
So I am worried about it for both of them.
I'm probably a little bit more worried
about Breeze Hall, honestly.
I think Wilson can still be like a must start wide receiver. Hall, I don't know, he hasn't really shown that form since that rookie
year. He hasn't really shown anything close to it. So we will see. I don't, that could go either
way. I don't have a strong sense of where that's going with Breesaw. What was the projected pace
for targets for Wilson? Yeah, with before Adams 190. No, no, the second 134. So DJ Moore's
season with Justin Fields was 136 targets. Right. And so, you know, if you're looking
at and again, there were some Beijing games in there. But if you're looking at it for
what Justin Fields did with basically one wide
receiver and it was DJ Moore's best season, hopefully again, you know, you're,
you're, you're taking the most optimistic view here because we didn't see it with
fields with, you know, pickings and in the, the six game sample size.
But hopefully that's the case is that, and let's not forget,
this is a coaching staff coming from Detroit. They're hopefully going to,
you know, that I forget, or
Kirkstatt, whatever I pronounce Tanner's last name.
The office coordinator for the Jets.
I'm always butchering names, so I won't attempt anymore.
But in any event, the office coordinator for the Jets,
hopefully he does some things to just be creative and
give some easy throws to Garrett Wilson.
And then we see maybe an Amara St.
Brown type touchdown season or some big play potential from Jameson Williams because I think Garrett Wilson could do both. It's funny you
mentioned the target pace you know that Garrett Wilson had a 23 target game in
the start of the season without Demonte Adams there which is just absurd but in
any event I think to me Wilson's kind of like a hold you know of not maybe
moving up because Adams is gone,
but not necessarily moving back too far.
Like I have him in one dynasty league,
I'm pretty okay with it.
I don't know if he'll be the flop of what Juju was
or Metcalf was when we had expectations for them.
Not those guys were terrible, but you get the point.
And he may not ascend to the heights of what he can be,
at least just yet.
The Breeze Law situation is interesting
because I think you're referring to his second season, Adam,
his rookie season when he tore his ACL.
Second season when he had all the reception.
Like, that's not gonna happen with Justin Fields.
You know, can he be a 40-catch guy?
I think so.
I don't think he's gonna be a 70-catch guy.
He was on pace for that before Adams joined the team,
at least a 60-catch pace, before
Adams joined the team.
But if he catches 40 passes, the nice thing about running quarterbacks is they open up
running lanes.
And so I still think he's an explosive rusher.
You mentioned it before when we were talking about fields that the offensive line is not
great.
Hopefully they get Veritaka back, they get some pieces in the draft or still fill out
some spots here, that it can be serviceable enough that while Brice Hall is not going to live up to what we thought coming off that
second season, he's still an explosive enough rusher and maybe the offense is better that
he scores some more rushing touchdowns.
Again, you're taking some leaps here with it, but if I'm a contending team right now
in dynasty and I have Brice Hall and I'm looking at maybe a non-contending team right now in dynasty and I have Bruce Hall and I'm looking at maybe a
non-contending team that has Derek Henry.
I may try and make a trade.
You know, okay, let me get Derek Henry for the one year situation if I think he's better
than Bruce Hall and try and win.
And maybe the team that's not contending is looking at maybe okay, maybe Bruce Hall in
two years if the quarterback situation is better, he can get back to being that elite
level prospect.
I'm going to do that rankings thing to you again, Adam, rank Garrett Wilson, Xavier
Worthy, Rashi Rice and Roma Dunze in dynasty.
Oh man.
Ooh, that is tough.
I will go.
Like those are some really good names and none of those four right now are in my top
15 wide receivers.
Geez.
I have, this is really hard.
I'm going to take Garrett Wilson one.
Oh, I mean, I can't put a doonsay too.
I just, he hasn't done anything that has to matter.
I know he's only played one year and I could see him being the best, but.
I have to put him for, I'm going to go worthy. Right.
I'm going to go Wilson worthy, right? I'm going to go Wilson, worthy rice
O'Doonze.
Same.
Wilson, worthy rice O'Doonze. Okay.
Jamie says the same. What about you, Heath?
No, I think I have it worthy rice Wilson O'Doonze, but they're back to back to back to back.
Like when I, when I asked
those questions is almost always that I really am unsure. And I'm hoping that somebody will
make a case that helps me to decide.
I think your, your rankings were worthy rice, Marquis Brown, Juju Smith shoes.
No, no, no. He did have Justin Watson ahead of those guys, but since I left the TSC,
Justin Watson was really helpful. Um, George Pickens, I'm not trying to hide it.
Um, Dave's always trying to conceal it.
Uh, George Pickens, I big loser with DK Metcalf coming to Pittsburgh, unless
he's getting traded somewhere else that will actually make him happy.
Uh, Jamie, would you rather have Pickens or DK on your dynasty roster right now?
Right now I'd rather have DK.
But if he let's say gets to New England, that might change just because of age.
But I guess he Pickens out of the league in two years.
It's not that crazy just given his attitude and
how teams may just get tired of him.
Look, he's got the ability to be explosive.
You look at those first six games with Russell Wilson, finally a competent quarterback, and
he was doing the things we were hoping he was capable of doing.
We saw some flashes the year before, and hopefully he ends up in that type of situation, but
he's got to leave Pittsburgh at this point.
If he stays with the Steelers and plays out his rookie deal, um,
and Metcalf's there, you know, they're, they're, they're clones of each other. And Metcalf just got paid to be the quote unquote alpha of that receiving
core.
Yeah.
Adam, I think that contract is the point because like Pickens, as you mentioned
yesterday has been really similar to DK Metcalf over the last couple of years in
terms of actual production.
Pickens is three years younger than DK Metcalf over the last couple of years in terms of actual production, Pickens is three years younger than DK Metcalf.
Is the contract enough to make up for those points?
If he stays with Pittsburgh, yeah, but I think it would be so weird if they got
Aaron Rogers.
Cause Jamie mentioned Metcalf and Pickens are clones.
These are guys that you really need to use downfield. And Rogers, that's just not what he does now.
He gets the ball out really quickly and he throws short passes.
He had one of the lowest A dots in the NFL.
We can react to that if that actually happens, but that would not be good for either of them,
I don't think.
But I actually do think if Pickens got traded to a spot like New England, where he's with
a strong arm quarterback that could use his
potential a bit more and wasn't on an Arthur Smith offense,
that's not going to throw the ball much.
They were toward the bottom and pass attempts.
Um, then yeah, I could see him being better than Meccaf, but
right now I'd rather have DK Meccaf because yeah, it just
seems like there are non football things that are holding
George Pickens back.
Unfortunately, that does seem to be the case.
Hopefully, you know, maybe you can go by low on George Pickens right now.
He gets moved and everything turns out better.
Although I hear like New England, that'd be pretty awesome.
If he and Drake may could get on the same page.
Um, there could be some good landing spots for George Pickens.
There's some teams that need wide receivers and it's a pretty terrible,
both free agent class and rookie class.
I'm afraid maybe terrible is too far on the rookies.
That's going to do it for today's FFT dynasty.
Thank you, Jamie.
Thank you, Adam.
Thank you, Thomas for running the show.
Thank you to everybody in the chat, but especially for Matthew Williams, who
says Heath Cummings is no Adam Hazer.
That's for sure.
And I thank you.
I appreciate it, Matthew.
We will talk to you on Friday with Davis Maddic.