Fantasy Football Today - Early ADP; Deebo Trade Possibilities (04/21 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: April 21, 2022Enter our NFL Draft contest: https://forms.gle/wZRYEHAD9XuJexxH8 From the NFL Draft to Deebo Samuel to early average draft position, we've got a lot to cover today! Let's start with our predictions f...or the NFL Draft. Who will be the #1 pick (2:40)? And then let's talk Deebo Samuel (7:05) as he has requested a trade. Are there any teams that would increase Deebo's value? Plus news on the Dolphins offense and Kadarius Toney ... Looking at early ADP, a great case can be made for taking Cooper Kupp second overall (19:15). We talk about how you could build your team if you took Kupp at #2. Also, should Patrick Mahomes be drafted as high as he is being taken (27:10)? And we compare Leonard Fournette and James Conner (29:40) and wonder why they are being taken 20 picks apart ... Things get a little risky toward the end of Round 3 (33:15) and somehow the RBs look better than the WRs. We also tell you who the biggest steal of the draft could be (39:30), how late you can find your RB2 (40:40) and how late you can find your WR3 (44:40) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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with iGaming Ontario. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today. This is touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben.
Welcome to Fantasy Football Today. One week out from the NFL Draft.
Adam Azer with Heath Cummings and Jamie Eisenberg.
And Debo Samuel, he's not on the show. Kind of sounded like he was joining us.
He's not happy right now. He wants a trade, so we are going to talk about that.
Woo, all right. You guys ready for this
upcoming week? Or I guess
really 10 days? These three days?
Ah, forget day three. Day three's boring.
You know, the next eight days or so. It's going to be fun.
Day three for us is going to be probably
the busiest day.
For all of us? For me as well?
No, I mean for fantasy purposes.
I mean, you're going to see a lot of guys go day three.
Yeah, but they don't matter as much.
You know that.
But day three will be the busiest day because getting rankings
and all those things updated after day one and day two.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
I'm really excited to see who the players are that go in the order
different than we think they should, whether it's the quarterbacks,
whether maybe it's those top three running backs or the receivers, and then how do we
react to that?
So I just want to be clear, Heath.
Day three is going to be a lot busier for you than it is for me, right?
Since I don't have rankings to update.
I don't think you are going to do anything at all on day three, except for maybe a podcast
in the evening.
That is, no, I think I might go out to lunch, but yeah.
Will you actually watch the draft?
Yeah.
No, not on day three.
A little bit.
You know, there's an app you can use to follow the draft
that will have a wonderful show.
Yeah.
Have you heard of it before?
I have.
Sorry, I'm looking something up.
Yes, I have heard of it.
CBS Sports app, CBS Sports HQ.
Follow the draft live there.
It's going to be great.
I have a question for you guys in just a second, but I wanted
to get these props for
Ahmad Gardner. I think his
prop... I was listening to the Pick 6 podcast on
Monday. They were talking about player props
for over-under, where they're going to be
picked. So, for example,
three and a half for Thibodeau,
I think.
Under means he'd be drafted in the first three picks over fourth picker later.
But for Gardner, I think it was seven and a half.
And I just, I don't know that.
I feel like if one quarterback goes, that means Gardner's probably not going to be in the first seven picks.
So that was an interesting one to me.
But my question to start the show, before we get into Debo Samuel,
who do you think is going number one in the NFL draft? Jamie?
It's such a crazy
top
because if I'm the Jaguars,
I'm taking one of the linemen.
I know they brought back Cam Robinson, but
to me, Evan Neal is just such a stud.
It'd be hard to pass on him.
But conventional
wisdom would probably say they're taking Aidan Hutchinson to take the best defensive lineman or to pass on him. But conventional wisdom would probably say they're taking
Aiden Hutchinson to take the best defensive lineman,
or at least on paper.
So if I was betting, I'd probably bet Hutchinson.
But if it's me, I'm taking Neal.
Yeah, I'm going to go with Walker,
just because it's Jacksonville.
And why don't they do something different
than what everybody else thinks they should?
Trayvon Walker is,
is definitely a name getting a lot of buzz.
He's awesome.
Could go a lot of ways.
He has nine and a half sacks in his career.
So that's kind of this production versus upside debate,
uh,
out of Georgia.
I was basically just echoing what I just heard on my morning commute from,
uh,
listening to Ryan Wilson and Will Brinson talk about it,
but your morning commute,
where from your bedroom to the office,
taking my kid to school,
good podcast.
But yeah,
I mean,
he hasn't,
he played out of position at Georgia and all that,
but Ryan,
who we're going to have on next week does not think Trayvon Walker should be
the number one pick.
No,
he doesn't.
Pete Prescott.
I think we should go back to your poo-pooing of day three, though.
Who was the highest scoring day three pick last year at each position?
Okay.
I think the number two quarterback was a day three pick, right?
But as rookies, they're not going to do much.
Oh, as rookies.
Okay.
Who was the number two quarterback?
Oh, Tom Brady.
Tom Brady.
Yeah.
No, as rookies, they don't contribute much.
And I'll probably watch the fourth round.
Like Elijah Mitchell.
Yeah.
Sometimes they do.
St. Brown, right?
Obama or St. Brown was a day three pick.
Yep.
Michael Carter.
Michael Carter.
Obama or St. Brown.
Was he day three or was he at the end of round three?
Was the best rookie quarterback a day three pick?
Mac Jones?
Davis Mills round three or round four?
Mac Jones was better.
I mean, in fantasy points.
Davis Mills, I believe, was round three.
That's disappointing.
Once you get past round four, fine.
I'll give you the first round of day three.
All right.
Anyway, let me tell you what's coming up next week.
We have had a really busy,
very fun week.
Monday is going to be
Ryan Wilson and Dan Schneier,
I believe,
scheduled to come on the show
to do kind of a mock draft,
ideal landing spots,
that type of thing.
Tuesday, we're going to talk
about the NFL,
current NFL veteran players
who have the most to gain
or lose based on
who their teams draft
in the first round
and then beyond. Wednesday, we're going to have a mailbag, so you can get your questions in at
fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. That's the letter I, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Also, you can leave
us an Apple podcast review, a five-star review on Apple podcast with your question. That'll
basically guarantee you're getting your question read on a show. And then Thursday, Friday, and Saturday,
we will be reacting after each round.
So it might be a midnight to 1 a.m. kind of deal.
We might start at 1 a.m. on Thursday.
I don't know.
But we'll have instant reaction to round one,
then round two on Friday night,
and then rounds two and three on Friday night,
and then rounds four through seven on Saturday.
Last thing before we get into Debo,
we do have to talk about this.
If you want to get in our podcast league,
there's a way to get in,
fill out the form in the episode description with your prediction of the top
10 picks of the NFL draft.
Whoever is closest to the exact order gets the spot.
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All you have to do is guess the players.
You don't have to tell us which teams,
but the order of the players in the top 10, and you have to spell the names correctly.
If you don't, you're not going to get credit for it.
So if somebody goes 10 for 10, would they spell the name wrong? Would they hit a fat thumbs?
You're going to penalize them?
It's not me. It's being filled out on a Google form that Schrager's going to sort by correct
answers, and he's not going to
sort for all the different spellings of all the names. So it's not like we're penalizing you to
be jerks. We're not going to see the answer if you don't spell the name right. So get someone
with thinner thumbs. Jamie, let's talk about Devo Sim.
Wait, no, there's also another way to get in. If you say something nice about Adam to me on Twitter,
I'll let you in the podcast.
Nobody's going to do that.
All right, news and notes.
Debo Samuel has requested a trade.
Reportedly, the Niners have no interest in trading him.
It's a contract thing or whatever it might be.
Obviously, the contract is a big part of it.
So we're going to play a game called Finding Debo.
We're going to get two teams from Heath
that if he were traded there,
it would increase Debo's value.
And then two teams that would decrease Debo's value
if he were traded there.
Heath, give me two teams in which you would rank.
You currently have Debo Samuel at wide receiver nine.
And Jamie and Dave have him at wide receiver eight in PPR.
Two teams that will go higher than nine for you.
I'll play the game
in a little different form because
I really don't think
if Debo Samuel gets traded anywhere,
I'm going to rank him higher than ninth.
I'm not sure that that works,
but the best place
by far I think he could get traded
would be the Packers, where he could go
be Aaron Rodgers' number one wide receiver and maybe they wouldn't ask him to do the things that apparently he doesn't
want to do anymore um I number two I struggle with but I guess I'd say Kansas City like those
are probably the two places where I'd have him ranked the highest if he went to those two places
um but I don't man there's already for me at, so much uncertainty about how much of what he did last year he can replicate.
And I would have more of those concerns if he was on a different team.
Okay, so if he gets traded to the Packers, would you move him ahead of Chris Godwin or Keenan Allen?
I don't believe I would, no.
Okay, Jamie, give me two teams that you would lower Debo's ranking of eight if he were
traded to. I mean, I generally agree with Heath that if he gets traded, especially if it's not
like the Packers is the most obvious win for him. But if he were to go probably anywhere else, he
would, I think, fall outside the top 10 for me. Not that far, but outside the top 10 for sure.
I'll just go with the teams that have a need.
The one that makes the most sense, which I think is the team that's probably the most
in on him would be the jets because if they're going to be in on Tyree kill and this is former
coaching staff, or at least, you know, coaches that worked on the staff when he was there
in San, while he, that were in San Francisco with him, um, in terms of Robert Sala and
Michael floor, I think that's, you know's a spot where you could certainly see the Jets going all in
and Debo's value going all out, essentially,
because his receiving numbers, I don't know if they would crater,
but they would certainly fall off.
And if they're using him as a rusher,
I don't know if he'd have the same amount of touchdown success.
So that would be the concern.
His rushing yards may still be the same,
but his touchdowns I think would fall off a little bit.
And then the other one would be the Falcons
because they already have a clone.
So we just want to have fun with that.
Cordero Patterson is basically the same type of guy
that Deebo Samuel was last year,
more of a rusher than a receiver
in terms of how the numbers shook out,
but obviously similar type of hybrid player. So we know that the Falcons have aher than a receiver in terms of how the numbers shook out, but obviously similar type of hybrid player.
So we know that the Falcons have a need for a receiver.
And if they were to,
you know,
jump into the mix there,
I think it could get ugly for Debo Samuel's fantasy value.
Okay.
So we're going to play another game.
Would he be top 12 if he went to blank and 12 for Jamie is T Higgins.
12 for Heath is Tyreek Hill,
who's actually much higher for Dave and Jamie.
I'm sorry, 12 for Jamie is Mike Evans.
Higgins is 13 for you.
So Chris Goblin, Mike Evans, Keenan Allen,
Amari Cooper, these are the types of names
we're looking at in this range for,
depending on which analyst you're talking about.
Would Deebo Samuel be a top 12 wide receiver
if he were traded to philadelphia no no dallas i'll only i just want to put the
caveat that if gris godwin's not ready to go then he'd be ahead of godwin um dallas uh that's an
interesting one. No.
Man, I don't even know for sure that I would rank him ahead of C.D. Lamb if he was in Dallas.
So I want to say—
No, I would not.
That was going to be my next question.
New England?
No.
No.
Baltimore?
No.
Houston?
No.
Indianapolis?
No.
You know, that's an interesting one
because I think they certainly have a need,
and I would expect them to maximize his potential
similar to what San Francisco has,
but I don't think he would be as good.
So, no.
But they just don't have the draft capital to get him,
I don't think, without a first-round pick.
Okay, let me do one more.
How about New Orleans?
No.
Nope.
How about Jacksonville?
We don't need that.
Come on.
Number one receiver for up-and-coming quarterback?
No.
No.
All right.
All right.
All right.
Also, they just gave Christian Kirk $20 million
and started this whole wide receiver mess.
They can't give Debo 25.
I guess they could.
A couple other news items.
Tua Tungavailoa, I saw an interesting quote for him.
He just said,
Really, the biggest thing for us is yak,
which, of course, is yards after catch.
We want to yak the heck out of teams.
So that
yeah, that's the
49ers. It's not necessarily
what you think of with
Tyreek Hill or
yeah, I guess I'd
stand by that. But what do you think?
I mean, how do you think Waddle and Hill
fit in with we want to yak
the heck out of teams? I mean, how do you think Waddle and Hill fit in with, we want to yak the heck out of teams?
I mean, you know, when you have speed like that,
it makes a ton of sense.
You know, find ways to get them in space
and let them do what they do.
That was one of the surprising things about Waddle last year
was the way he was targeted.
He didn't have more yak, right?
Yeah, I think that was more a byproduct
of that offensive line being as terrible as it was.
Like, you know, there was so many times where Tua puts his foot in the ground and there's a guy in his face.
And so, you know, hopefully with the additions that they made and may continue to make,
that unit is better or just they play better under a new coach, you know, with the additions of Armstead and Connor Williams.
So, you know, Tua has more time.
Mike McDaniel's system.
Yeah, I'd buy in for sure.
For Gusecki also.
And the last note I had, not a lot today,
but I really don't like Kadarius Toney
not reporting to voluntary workouts for the Giants.
I don't know if it was a personal issue
or something like that,
but you'd really like to see him there.
New coaching staff doesn't have a playbook.
And yeah, I mean, for a guy that you're hoping
can kind of capitalize on his talent,
we know he has talent.
Yeah.
Does this bother you, Heath,
that Kadarius Toney did not report
for the start of the Giants workouts,
which of course are voluntary?
Yeah, he's not in my rankings,
so I'm not going to move him down.
But no, he's in my top 150 that's not fair um
but yeah i i would like it more if he was there i'd like an explanation
does it matter does it make any difference to you jamie i mean you know if if there wasn't a pattern of injuries last year,
and I don't think he was disgruntled,
but I don't know that he wasn't last season. And I saw some quote, I forget who it was,
about just the attitude difference for the Giants.
I don't know who said it,
coming off the meeting with the media,
the voluntary practice.
But they said that just the feeling in the voluntary practices. But, you know, they said that the, you know,
just the feeling in the building is there, which you probably understand.
I think Xavier McKinney said something about that.
And I think Joe Judge was, I don't know if he was kind of a stickler.
It's a little bit more laid back now, but, but also, you know, determined.
And it's, it's kind of the same stuff you see whenever there's a new coach,
but it's not anything to read into, but, you know,
you'd like to see everybody on board, you know,
and so, like you said, hopefully it's not injury-related,
and he dealt with so much last year for Tony.
He's got so much upside.
I mean, especially, you know, with Brian Dayball coming in
and, you know, is Galladay the one?
Is Shepard even healthy?
Can he get ready for the start of the season?
You know, there's just so many ifs with this receiving core
that Tony's got such a path to success if he's right.
I mean, we saw the upside last year in those two or three games.
But that was really it.
And so, you know, I'm hopeful.
And I think if you're in the Kadarius Tony market to be buying him,
your window is wide open right now.
All right. By the way, today's topic, which I should have mentioned 15 minutes ago,
is early average draft position review. We're going to look at the NFC draft since the day
after the Tyreek Hill trade, about 15 drafts or so, and just some of the trends we're seeing,
including Cooper Cup going second overall. Before we do that, I want to give a random
advanced stat and see if you care about this at all.
Tony Pollard, over the last three seasons,
has ranked first, third, and 13th
in the PFF, Pro Football Focus, elusiveness rating.
I don't know.
It's kind of a fun thing that people like, I guess.
First, third, and 13th.
That's among halfbacks with a minimum of 50 carries.
If you make it a minimum of 100 carries last year,
he would have been ninth.
But he's been statistically, because I actually was,
I figured we were probably going to talk about Michael Carter today.
So I was just looking to see how Michael Carter rated
with the advanced stats on PFF,
and he ranked very well last year.
But then I just went back a few years,
and Tony Pollard keeps showing up near the top of the list.
Uh, Heath, does that, does that matter to you that PFF thinks he's a pretty damn elusive
runner?
Um, yeah, I mean, I think it's more about how many touches is he going to get?
It makes him more appealing as a potential, um, handcuff or backup to Zeke, because if
something does happen and Ezekiel, it doesn't play through the injury like he has the past couple years
but misses a month or two, then Pollard could be one of those league-winning running backs.
I'm still not sure between the tackles
that they would use him in the same way they have Elliott if there was no Elliott.
I was going to say, if there was no Elliott, let's just say they traded him
or suffered an injury or won the lottery, as Dave likes to say, if there was no Elliott, let's just say they traded him or suffered an injury or won the lottery, as Dave likes to say, where would you rank Tony Pollard?
It'd be hard to keep him out of the top 10 if there's no Zeke.
Yeah, I think he would have every bit the case to be not too far from DeAndre Swift range, which is the bottom
of the top 10, I'm not sure
it'd be a big difference between him and Javante Williams.
That was the guy I was thinking of, you know, just in terms
of unproven, but
you know the potential's there
and you know the superstar
potential's there, you know, so
like that, man.
Yeah, it's a great setup. It's a great
setup. And in a great setup.
And in limited work,
he has been a very effective running back,
but never had a huge workload season
or career high 130 carries
for Tony Power last year.
We will take a break.
When we come back,
early average draft position trends.
We'll tell you about them,
what you need to know
right after this on Fantasy Football Today.
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Welcome back.
Reminder, everybody, to click the link in the episode description,
join our NFL Draft Contest, and spell the names right.
Because when Jamie goes through all of the entries,
he's going to be sorting by correct spelling of the last ones.
If you spell their names wrong, but you get all 10 right,
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I could guarantee you that.
So, early average draft position,
since the day after the Tyreek Hill trade,
which is about a month now,
has Cooper Cup as the number two pick on NFC, which is typically half PPR.
Jamie, what do you think about that? When do you think Cooper Cup should go? And why do you think
he is number two behind Jonathan Taylor? I mean, when you think about it, there's really a lot of
uncertainty after Taylor. I mean, you can make the case for Eckler
and what he did last year and hopefully replicating that.
You can make the case for McCaffrey based on his upside when he's healthy,
but clearly we know the downside.
Same thing for Derrick Henry.
You know, as long as he's back at 100%.
I don't know, and Adam, I don't have the ADP in front of me,
so I don't know who's 3, 4, and 5.
I would assume those guys are close to that, if not in 3, 4, and 5.
I'll tell you in a second.
But in terms of Cup, as we've seen this offseason,
where there was the conversation about Adams or Cup,
and I know just because I wrote the story,
and I don't know if you ever changed it at any point, Heath,
but I know Adams was number one for you
right after the season when we did our top tens.
So he was in the conversation.
Adams was for number one receiver.
Now Cup clearly is ahead of him.
Tyreek Hill getting traded.
I don't know how many people are going to take
Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase,
as much as you may love them, over Cooper Cup.
And the fact that as of now,
his competition is Allen Robinson
in terms of competing for the top targets.
They haven't brought back Odell Beckham yet.
And if they do bring back Beckham, he's still coming off an ACL tear.
So there may be even bigger opportunity for Cooper Cup if that's possible.
So if you're looking at it and you have that second pick, for me, when I saw this in your notes, it was, what's the two rounds that follow that?
And based on the drafts that we've done, you're looking at still getting another potential wide receiver in round two in the range of a Debo Samuel, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans type of guy, which is not a bad start.
But it's even better from what you get in round three.
So you can still be looking at Leonard Fournette or Antonio Gibson or Josh
Jacobs or David Montgomery,
one of those guys and you come away with,
you know,
still a potential top 10 running back and two top tier receivers.
Or if you want to go a different route,
Mark Andrews in round two,
two running backs,
rounds two and round three.
Can I,
can I interrupt and just tell you some of the names that,
you know,
based on the ADP that we're using today.
So Jonathan Taylor's one, Cup is two,
and then Eckler, McCaffrey, Henry are three, four, five.
But if you're talking about, all right,
I got to choose between, you could even,
if you're in a full PPR league,
Cooper Cup had 105 more catches than Jonathan Taylor last year.
So I'm not saying that's going to repeat,
but I could see a case for him being one
if you want to go that route,
like people used to do with Antonio Brown. Who are you looking at, let's say, end of round
two, beginning of round three in a 12-team league? I'll start with pick 22. Josh Allen is pick 21.
Pick 22 is A.J. Brown, Nick Chubb, Aaron Jones, Mark Andrews, Antonio Gibson, Cam Akers, Mike Evans.
So you could start your team with Cooper Cup, maybe Nick Chubb,
any two of Nick Chubb, Aaron Jones, Antonio Gibson, Cam Akers,
or throw in a wide receiver there, A.J. Brown, Mike Evans, Keenan Allen,
or Mark Andrews could be there too.
So that's a pretty decent case to take Cooper Cup in round one. It's an amazing case. Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, or Mark Andrews could be there too.
That's a pretty decent case to take Cooper Cup in round one. It's an amazing case.
With the first or second pick.
We were just talking about Debo, and there's some connection there for me
because we'd never seen anything like that from Debo before.
He and Cup were kind of the major outliers,
but if you look at what Cup was the three years before,
his 17-game pace from those three years was 99 catches,
1,200 yards, and eight touchdowns.
And that was with Jared Goff.
So, yeah, he's not going to do what he did last year,
but he had such a high base coming into that year
with a worst quarterback that I think you feel more secure
about him coming closer to that, probably than the running backs.
I have him six or seven,
and I kind of want to move Cup a little bit higher.
It's the same.
So what do you think right now?
I actually, I think just looking at that him being number two
and having the conversation first with Heath a couple days ago on FFT and five,
and right now, it opened
my eyes a little bit to getting out of the mindset, the kind of old school mentality that the first
five picks or so have to be running backs, even though the first two or three picks have to be
running backs. And it's, you know, I've talked about this a lot when we've talked dynasty,
it's just kind of a maybe transition period at running back where Jamie already mentioned it. A lot of question marks with those guys.
Maybe we open our minds a little bit and put Cup high.
So where do you think the highest you could conceivably put Cooper Cup would be?
Two?
It's more about the build.
It's not necessarily about just looking at the first round.
It's about how you build your first three picks.
And like I said, you laid that out perfectly.
Yeah, I'm going to move them up to five um but i don't think i'll unless something happens to one of them i don't think i'll probably rank him ahead of
taylor eckler henry or mcafree the the thing about specifically i think mcafree and henry
is you've seen their ceilings and they're still
young enough where it's not that out of the realm of possibility for them to
get close to that again.
I mean,
obviously McCaffrey for what he can be,
if healthy,
you know,
you go back really,
I think two seasons ago,
the first year for Matt rule,
when he played the three games,
Jamie,
I got to hop off for like two minutes.
All right.
Can you take over for me? Yeah. Sorry, folks. All right. Jamie's going to, when, when he, when he had he played the three games. Jamie, I got to hop off for like two minutes. All right. Can you take over for me? Yeah. Sorry folks. All right. Jamie's gonna.
When, when he,
when he had those those three games and was still in the same point per game
range as he was the year before when he was a record setter. Now, again,
it's a small sample size,
but at least it showed you under Matt Rule that he could be that caliber of
player again.
And he wasn't so far off when you removed the games that he left last year.
So, you know, I think that's what you're kind of kind of looking at but um you know i i think again if
you're just talking about how you build your team you know heath if you if you extend that and you
go mcafree aj brown antonio gibson do you like that as much as cooper cup antonio brown or aj
brown excuse me um nick chubb, for example,
however the first three picks go.
Which start do you like better?
Or Henry, throw whatever running back you want in there.
Yeah, I mean, the fact that AJ Brown and Mark Andrews are possibilities
at the 2-3 turn makes me, I think, lean a little bit more towards those top four running backs.
If I could come out of the first three picks three picks with mcafree aj brown and mark
andrews i'd feel pretty fantastic about it um and i think i i'm not probably quite as high
on chubb especially in ppr or right now on antonio gibson because it doesn't seem like
washington's very high on him so i i think i might like the wide receiver tight end combo
at the two three turn more than i do the running backs understandably so it'll probably come down to personal preference but yeah you know it's uh
it's going to be fun you know we're going to start to do a lot more mock drafts obviously
following the uh the nfl draft i think the highest i've seen cup go in our in our few drafts that
we've done has been fight fifth overall so um top five pick i think it's hard to get away from
of what he can be all right next guy we're we're going to look at here is Patrick Mahomes,
who's still the number two quarterback.
He's going in the same range as Justin Herbert.
For me, Mahomes right now is fifth,
but I have all the top five guys bunched up, essentially.
You know, Josh Allen won, but two, three, four, and five.
For me, it's Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, Tom Brady, and then Mahomes.
I can certainly see myself flipping
Mahomes and Brady if Mahomes gets a significant piece in the NFL draft and Godwin's not ready to
go. But basically, two, three, four, and five are all very close. Where do you have Mahomes
currently ranked right now following the Tyreek Hill trade? Yeah, he's at four for me, but the
same thing you said. I've got Allen on a little bit of a pedestal. I don't have Brady in the class
with Herbert, Jackson, and Mahomes,
but those three guys are separated by like four and a half points
for the entire season in my projections.
I don't envision with those three right there together,
I'm going to get very much Patrick Mahomes
because Lamar Jackson seems to be going two rounds
after Herbert and Mahomes in most of our mock drafts.
And I think in ADP as well.
I mean, it sounds like Herbert and Mahomes in most of our mock drafts. And I think in ADP as well. I mean, it sounds like Herbert and Mahomes are kind of tied for second
behind Josh Allen and then Jackson's fifth or sixth.
So I think the value in early ADP for me is Jackson.
I think there's a chance that Mahomes is still number one.
I think he's in that group for sure.
But without Tyreek Hill and right now having not replaced him with anyone
but Juju, I would,
uh,
I'd put him forth.
Hey,
I think the thing,
Adam,
we're talking about my homes and Herbert.
Um,
the,
the thing with,
uh,
with my homes is,
you know,
you heard the comment earlier that he made this week about the,
the height of his receivers,
you know,
not ever having,
you know,
guys like that.
I don't think it was a shot at Tyree kill,
but it was certainly having some taller guys and,
and Juju and, and MBS.
Um, it's going to be really interesting to see what they do.
You know, that's the biggest key is, you know, do, do they, do they address the position in the first round?
Is it more of a day two or day three, you know, backfill kind of, you know, not just replacing Tyree kill because they may have feel like they may feel like they've already done that per se, not from a talent standpoint, just from a body standpoint.
Um, they also have to replace Byron Pringle. Let's not forget about that.
So, you know, I think it's the caliber of player that they,
that they still bring in. And then it's,
you're buying into Mahomes talent, clearly you're buying into Andy Reed and,
and sort of how do they correct some of the coverages and the adjustments that
teams made against them. Clearly they're on the same, you know,
speed and skill combination
because I think Marco's Valdez-Scantling
is certainly fast enough.
He's not Tyree Kill fast, but he's fast enough.
And so how do they replace Tyree Kill
and adjust to what teams are throwing at them?
All right, shall we move on?
Sure.
I'm sure that was a very interesting discussion.
Sorry I missed it.
Leonard Fournette versus James Conner.
They are separated by 20 picks
leonard fournette 19th overall in this early adp which is again about a month old now 15 14 or 15
drafts leonard fournette 19th overall james connor 39th overall heath do you feel like that's too big
of a gap yeah i i have um fournette slightly ahead of James Conner. I think they're both late round two picks or early round three picks.
And so, again, this is a situation where I love the fact that I can get Conner a round or two later.
I don't really know why.
They've both shown, and it was a bigger sample size for Fournette last year,
but they've both shown the ability to be top three or four running backs.
If one of these teams goes and drafts a running back,
I would guess that will impact it next week.
But as of right now,
I think they're both borderline number ones
worth a pick at the end of round two.
What do you think about the gap?
20 picks, Fournette 19th, Connor 39th, Jamie?
I mean, I love the value for Connor, clearly.
He said it.
He was great last year in the five games that Chase Edmonds missed he was clearly still successful playing in tandem with Edmonds
and obviously the coaching staff I don't know if they made the decision we're going with Connor
over Edmonds if Edmonds wanted out because he was the first running back to sign in free agency but
I remember Cliff Kingsbury saying at the combine we can't bring both back we're going to bring one
back you know and maybe they had made their decision at that point. These two guys terrified me because of, you know, just the
nature of, I think Fournette is due to probably have some sort of injury that's going to cause
him to miss time if he's going to handle as much work as he does again this year. If they don't
address, you know, bringing in a second guy, I don't think Giovanni Bernard is the answer.
I don't think Keyshawn Vaughn is the answer, you know, so they may add another running back in the
draft, probably not very high. And then I expecthawn Vaughn is the answer, you know, so they may add another running back in the draft, probably not very high.
And then I expect the Cardinals to bring in somebody else, you know,
whatever somebody else might be.
I don't think, you know, Benjamin's going to be the second guy there.
So they're very close.
And for me, it's really, it's not just these two.
It's the group of Antonio Gibson, Aaron Jones, David Montgomery, Josh Jacobs.
I might be missing somebody in that group.
You know, Nick Chubb's a little bit ahead of them for me,
but I can certainly see if you want to put him in that category as well,
especially in PPR, of, you know, where there could be somebody else.
In some cases, there is somebody else.
You know, some of the flaws you see, you know, for Gibson, for example,
you know, Willie catch passes now that McKissick –
catch pass is the level that we saw at the end of last passes now that McKissick catch pass the level that we saw at the end of that last season.
Now that McKissick is back, you know, so I'm torn on where these guys should be in terms of their running back rankings.
But I think as he as he said to me, that whole group is essentially the back end of round two to the middle of round three or maybe the end of round three.
You know, depending on how your team is looking, is looking. They all should go in that range, including
James Conner. James
Conner played six games without Chase
Edmonds, and he was basically the second best
running back in fantasy. His
pace is 17-game pace in six games
without Edmonds. Edmonds played one
snap in one of them, so I'm not counting that.
1,800...
I don't even think that's an Acer stat. Who's counting that game?
1,884 total yards, 85 catches, 29 touchdowns.
That was his pace.
And he averaged something like 22 fantasy points per game
in full PPR.
It was pretty incredible.
So, okay, next topic here is round four
and late round three.
I think very risky.
You tell me what you think, and is there still a lot of upside here?
So about the last two picks of round three,
about 34th overall is where I'm picking this up, 34th, 35th.
I guess 34th will be the last three picks.
Saquon Barkley, DeAndre Hopkins, DK Metcalf, Jalen Waddell,
Josh Jacobs, James Conner,
Kyle Pitts, Ezekiel Elliott,
Dobbins, Burrow, David Montgomery,
Elijah Mitchell, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin.
Now, Godwin, the way he lasts that long if he's healthy.
So that's pick 48.
But I always play this game in my head.
What is Heath laughing at?
What did I say that was bad, that was embarrassing,
that Heath is laughing at?
That is usually not that.
I'm usually just self-conscious.
But Heath's laughing, so I'd like to know what's so funny.
I was not laughing at you.
I was kind of laughing at those running back names.
The dead zone conversation is going to be so interesting this year
because I don't remember having that many names and talents
that have produced like some of these guys have over the last couple of years.
I mean, David Montgomery was, what, the number six running back two years ago
and 13 or 14 last year, and he's at the back of this list.
And then at wide receiver, too.
Like, is there any upside of this group, you ask?
And then we've got DeAndre Hopkins and DK Metcalf and Jalen Waddell.
Like, there's enormous amounts of upside.
Just all these guys have warts.
And Connor does too.
We talked about him.
He's got the injury warts.
I don't mind this group at all.
It is risky.
But the amount of upside that's available at the 3-4 turn,
this is the point last year, I think,
where we maybe started taking a couple of the quarterbacks because
all the really league-winning
players were kind of off the board. Maybe it'll be that way
again by the time we get to August.
I would imagine, though, like you're saying, Burrow
in this range. So this range is typically
for us where the quarterbacks will start to go.
At least the way we'll tell people to draft.
This is where you'll see Allen
and maybe whoever's number two.
Lamar, Mahomes, Herbert.
That group, I think, will start to come off the board here.
Pitts is fascinating in this spot, in this range.
Could be amazing.
Obviously, could be just as good as he was last year,
and you'll feel a little bit disappointed if he doesn't score more touchdowns.
Yeah, it's
uh it's it's the older players you know this is where you're starting to see the majority of the
names you listed there feel like they're they're older guys or you know guys that are in situations
that feel a little crappy because of of what happened to them a year ago i'll give the names
again and it's a lot to digest if you're just listening barkley hopkins metcalf, Waddle, Jacobs, Connor, Pitts, Zeke, Dobbins, Burrow,
Montgomery, Elijah Mitchell, DJ Moore, and Chris Godwin. And I'm not really counting Chris Godwin
because he's probably a second round pick if he's healthy. But this is the end of round three and
all the way through pick 48, 12 team league, the end of round four.
So if you're on the clock with the 35th pick,
Jamie,
and all of these guys are available,
who's your absolute favorite?
I mean,
obviously would depend on what I need.
You've got one wide receiver and one running back at this point.
I have one wide receiver,
one running back at this point.
I would probably,
I mean,
if Godwin's available, clearly that's him.
Godwin's not available.
It'd be between probably Hopkins and DJ Moore in PPR.
In half PPR, it'd probably be between Jacobs and Montgomery or Connor.
So that's the route I would go.
If you want to give me a name, PPR, I would take DJ Moore.
Half PPR, I would take DJ Moore. Half PPR, I would take Connor.
Does the guy with the 36th pick have two running backs?
No.
I think my top three would be Montgomery, Connor, and Godwin.
Yeah.
Who else after Godwin?
It's probably...
Man, I do like the running backs
more than I like the wide receivers in that range
outside of Godwin.
I think DJ Moore I have higher than Metcalf
or Hopkins or Waddle right now.
So he'd be my next highest wide receiver after Godwin.
I would not be taking Pitts in this range.
And I wouldn't take Burrow, obviously.
But none of the running backs are out of place here.
That's what really jumped out to me.
I kind of like the running backs, not all of them,
more than the wide receivers on a whole here.
And historically, I think that's probably a really bad idea.
I just broke it down how good round four has been for wide receivers lately.
You get a lot of top 12 finishes at wide receiver in round four,
and we know the running back dead zone has begun at this point.
I don't know what it is.
I would just guess, and I don't know this,
but I would guess these drafts have fewer running backs
taken in the first 34 picks than our drafts
or consensus drafts will by the time we get to August.
Okay, let's filter that.
So running backs in the first 34 picks.
One of them is Brees Hall,
but he'd be RB 16.
The easiest is what running back number is Barkley?
17.
Okay, so there's 16 running backs taking the first 34 picks.
One of them is Brees Hall,
so 15 in the current player pool.
And then Brees Hall is 16.
And then there's four or five quarterbacks.
In how many picks?
Well, Burrow is QB what? Four. Okay, so there's four or five quarterbacks. In how many picks? Well, Burrow is QB what?
Four.
Okay, so there's three quarterbacks taken before this group.
Yeah, Allen is 23rd, Mahomes 32, Herbert 34.
And just two tight ends, I guess.
Unless Kittle, yeah, two tight ends.
Burrow at four is so crazy.
Yeah, it's a little surprising, I guess.
Okay, next topic.
Let's talk about Amari Cooper, 57th overall.
What?
Heath, steal the draft?
Amari Cooper, 57th overall?
I mean, I would presume that Brandon Cooks is in the 70s somewhere,
so he's probably a better value because he always is.
Will you stop with Brandon Cooks for one minute, okay?
I would say that, yes, Amari Cooper is a spectacular value there,
and I'd feel much better about taking a running back in that round four group
if I knew that I could wait another 15 picks
and take Amari Cooper with my next pick.
But this is where he'll go if there's a six game plus suspension for deshaun watson
yeah that's a that's a pretty good point um and by the way brandon cooks is 75th
so yeah that's my that's my favorite value yeah okay i guess not much really needs to be said
there good point about the suspension where do you think Amari Cooper should go
if there's no Deshaun Watson suspension?
I would take him ahead of Hopkins and...
More, Metcalf.
And DJ Moore.
Yeah.
Okay, looking at the ADP,
how late can you go in average draft position
to find a few running backs that you're comfortable with
as your RB2?
Well, what kind of RB2 are you talking about?
Are you talking about a guy that I'm definitely
not worried about workload because I built a really good team
or I'm taking a Tony Pollard, A.J. Dillon type of guy
because I know the rest of my team is good
and that guy pops is going to be good. He's going to be great, but he's still going to be serviceable
enough. So it's like essentially what I guess the question would be is, would you rather have
a strong receiver flex and a weaker RB2 as opposed to the other way around?
It doesn't really matter to me, I guess.
I'd probably rather have some running back depth.
Well, you could have depth.
You could have two or three of these guys.
Take the typical hero RB route,
and let's say you go Eckler round one,
receiver, receiver, tight end receiver,
receiver again,
and then you're looking at Kareem Hunt, A.J. Dillon,
Tony Pollard type of guy.
Yeah, there are three.
Oh, go ahead.
Looking at this ADP, it looks like round eight is the answer
because from pick 84 through 96,
you've got Kareem Hunt, Devin Singletary,
Clyde Edwards-Hilaire, Rashad Penny,
Miles Sanders, Chase Edmonds.
I don't get that.
That's insane. How do you get those guys?
You have to be crazy to take Saquon and Elliot
where they're going, knowing that these caliber of players
are still available so much later.
And some of that is they do have the rookies in here.
So three rookie running backs, Hall, Walker, and Spiller,
are all going in the first seven rounds ahead of these guys.
And probably they're worried about competition for a couple of them,
like showing up on draft day.
So maybe some of this will shift around after the draft.
But yeah, if any of those guys are available
in round seven or eight, I'm perfectly fine with that.
Yeah.
Maybe you'd try to double dip in round seven, eight, nine
as these would be your RBs two and three or no?
Yeah, but this is the perfect reason to go zero RB.
You know what I mean?
If you can end up with two or three of these guys,
my gosh.
Well, all right.
The guys would be who?
Singletary and Hunt?
Singletary, Clyde, Penny, Sanders, Edmonds, Pollard?
They're all...
There's going to be one of these guys
that ends up in the top 15,
barring competition and health.
There's too much upside.
I mean, you saw it with Singletary last year.
You know, Sanders, all he didn't do was score touchdowns. You know, if he had a few more touchdowns in there, there's too much upside not I mean you saw with Singletary last year you know Sanders
all he didn't do was score touchdowns
you know if you had a few more touchdowns in there
you'd certainly feel a lot better
Clyde health you know so
there's a lot to like about this group
and Kareem Hunt's an injury away from
being a top five running back
Singletary is the guy who
could swing the most
based on the NFL draft if they don't draft so many people expect the Bills to take a running back fairly early.
If they don't, Singletary is going to skyrocket.
He's not going to be 88th overall or 89th overall.
Where do you think he'll end up?
Top 50?
60.
Yeah, 55.
If they don't draft a running back before day three,
if the Bills don't do that,
would you rather have Singletary or Ezekiel Elliott?
Singletary.
Um, I'll go Singletary over Zeke,
but I'm extending it to round four.
Okay.
If they take a round four running back,
then I'm taking Zeke.
So how about same question, but with wide receivers?
How late can you go in ADP to find a few wide receivers
that you're comfortable with as your third guy,
as your wide receiver three?
I would say same range, right?
I am pulling up the round eight wide receivers,
and they are Gabriel Davis, Traylon Burks, Brant.
Nope.
There's just no wide receivers going in round eight.
Literally.
Adam Thielen, though, is right at the end of round seven.
Cortland Sutton, Michael Thomas.
Those guys are round seven picks.
What? I think that's the range right there because after that you're getting into the michael gallup the rashad
bateman the rondale moore those guys i like having as a fourth wide receiver or as a flex but
i don't feel good about them as my number three all right so if round seven and eight feels like
where you could fill out your starting
lineup with a RB two and a wide receiver three, well,
I guess you need a flex.
How do, how do we draft?
Right.
If we're working backwards here, you could get a tight end.
Oh, all right.
I always see if I just use my first round pick more instead of just skipping
it, I would probably do better.
Yeah. So you could get a tight end. just use my first round pick more instead of just skipping it, I'd probably do better. Yeah,
so you could get a tight end.
I guess you could get a quarterback and a
tight end in your first five or six
picks, and then
you'd have 2-2.
Yeah.
Go back to the Cooper Cup scenario. So you go
Cup 1,
A.J. Brown 2,
Fournette three.
What's available in round four?
That was all those running backs
that Adam was talking about.
Yeah, but if we skip that group,
you could take Kyle Pitts there
or another wide receiver like DJ Moore.
Why don't I take Mark Andrews in the third
and James Connor in the fourth
as opposed to Fournette and Pitts?
Fine.
Because,
because this is our shared team and you didn't ask,
you didn't ask.
I would take AJ Brown over Mark Andrews.
So Cooper cup.
I thought you could get both.
I'm sorry.
All right.
Cooper cup,
AJ Brown,
Mark Andrews,
James Connor.
He just pay us now.
Yeah.
It's a good,
it's a good squad.
And then in round five, we're taking Amari Cooper.
Yeah, Amari Cooper.
Brandon Cook's in round six.
We have three receivers.
We're getting our third receiver in round
seven or eight. We already established.
Let's take a quarterback in round six.
You're not going to like that?
ADP for this. Lamar?
Of course. Let's do it. Lamar Jackson or Russell Wilson, this Lamar of course let's do it
Lamar Jackson or Russell Wilson
but Lamar
and then we got where are we now
Lamar Connor
Cup Brown
and Andrews yeah
and Cooper or no
we do Lamar Cooper in round five
yeah that
feels like too many players
there's no we can't have AJ Brown and We'll do the Mark Cooper in round five, yeah. That feels like too many players.
No, we can't have A.J. Brown and James Conner.
Yeah, we can.
James Conner.
Now we have Andrews.
Andrews was our third round pick.
Then we can't have Conner.
Yeah, Conner wouldn't make it all the way back to 48, I guess, right?
What was he?
Yeah, he was 39.
Okay.
All right, so what are we doing at the end of round four?
So we go Cooper Cup, A.J. Brown, Mark Andrews.
The end of round four, about 48th overall.
We could take David Montgomery.
He probably won't get there.
Elijah Mitchell or D.J. Moore, Chris Terry.
I'm not going to say Goblin.
Terry McLaurin, Kittle.
What if we do a running back instead of A.J. Brown, Jamie?
You're telling me Kittle's available at the end of round four?
Yeah. I don't need to take Andrews, probably.
He's in round five.
I would much rather have George Kittle at the end of round four
than Mark Andrews in the beginning of round three.
Okay.
So we're restarting.
Cooper Cup is our first pick.
Then we're going A.J. Brown.
All right, we start a pick.
Go, Adam. You get the first round. Cooper Cup. If you do round two, I'll do round three. Cooper Cup is our first pick. Then we're going AJ Brown. All right, we start pick. Go, Adam.
You get the first round.
Cooper Cup.
You do round two.
I'll do round three.
Cooper Cup.
So I'm picking what number?
23 or 24.
23.
Yeah, I'll take AJ Brown.
Okay, so round three, I'll take James Conner.
You could take Antonio Gibson or Aaron Jones. I'll take James Conner you could take Antonio Gibson
or Aaron Jones
I'll take Aaron Jones
okay so AJ Brown
Aaron Jones Cooper Cup and I will have
the pick at the end of round four
which will be
well
DJ Moore
I don't know why you are making
our team worse than you have to.
Why didn't you just take Chris Godwin?
Because I'm not.
So I will take George Kittle.
No, you have to use the ADP that's available to you.
Take Chris Godwin.
All right, Chris Godwin is the layup,
but I mean, Chris Godwin is not going to be there.
But you don't know that he's ready for week one, though.
He won't be there.
If he's out three weeks, he will not be available.
We are drafting a team today, Adam, as people have. That's the ADP we're using. we are drafting a team today adam as people have
that's the adp we're using chris god we're drafting a team today okay okay fine chris godwin and i
took kittle and then kittle all right so our team right now through five rounds is
cup brown godwin kittle and aaron jones that's good. And then you have to take a quarterback in round six,
which could be Lamar Jackson.
Why do I have to?
It cannot be Lamar Jackson.
Because the exercise that we're doing,
where we're based on the last two.
I took our fourth receiver for our flex.
And Lamar's at pick 55.
Okay, then.
So what round are we in?
Okay, fine.
So Russell Wilson.
No, I don't think quarterback.
I'd rather think Brandon Cooks.
No, we have to because what I was saying is
you could take a tight end and a quarterback
in rounds one through six at some point.
But why would you not take the best available player,
which could be Flex?
It was an exercise I was doing to show you that.
I think the exercise we found is that by this ADP,
we do not want to take a quarterback in the first round.
No, because
I do. And this is
my damn team.
Brandon Cooks, we have our flex.
But we can get Brandon Cooks.
We can get Michael Thomas or Cortland
Sutton in the next round. Let's take Russell Wilson
here. And then Cortland Sutton
after that. And then
Kareem Hunt or Devin Singletary
Russell Wilson's pick 65
he would not be there
at the end of the sixth round
stop cheating
oh it is the end
of the sixth round
alright
this fell apart
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from Tom
this is why we don't
share a football team
yeah
geez
three of us
that'd be bad
Tom in a sunny little city with two our baseball team is awesome yeah This is why we don't share a football team. Yeah. Geez, three of us, that'd be bad.
Tom in a sunny little city with two... Our baseball team is awesome.
Yeah.
Jamie and I have a great fantasy baseball team.
Look out.
Tom in a sunny little city with two pro football teams and two NBA teams.
A city with two pro football teams and two NBA teams?
Got to be Los Angeles.
Los Angeles.
Or New York.
No.
Yeah, and there's really no football teams in New York City.
Well, they're named New York.
Yeah, but you know it's LA.
All right, we're all out only five keepers from the previous season.
It's a full PPR league. So he got David Montgomery
and Christian McCaffrey for free off waivers. Wow. He has Jalen Waddle for a dollar. All right. He
wants to know who would you keep? He's got Kyler Murray, CeeDee Lamb, AJ Brown, Jalen Waddell, Kamara, McCaffrey, Montgomery,
Javante Williams, Gibson, Kelsey, and Gronk.
So pick five there.
He's leaning towards Javante, McCaffrey,
CeeDee Lamb,
and then he's kind of torn on the other two
between, it's not going to be Kyler,
but A.J. Brown, Jalen Waddell,
Alvin Kamara, David Montgomery, Antonio Gibson,
and Travis Kelsey.
Kelsey and Kamara.
Yeah, I'd go McCaffrey, Montgomery, Javante, A.J. Brown, and Kelsey.
So you'd leave Lamb off?
I think I'd take Kelsey over Lamb.
You'd take Montgomery over Lamb in a PPR league?
Three-receiver PPR league?
Yeah, I've got Montgomery in round two,
and I have Lamb in round three.
This is from Clayton.
Long-time listener from the city home
to the largest monument in the United States.
Washington.
I guess.
All right, we get to keep four players each year with no penalty.
We can keep them for as long as we want and grade the trade.
I give up Josh Allen, Antonio Gibson, and pick 1.7.
I get Javante
Williams pick 1.3
and pick 3.8.
You guys messed up.
The largest monument is not
in Washington.
It's the gateway to the
West.
Really? That's bigger than the West. Really?
That's bigger than the Washington monument.
It says the tallest man-made monument in the United States,
the gateway arch 630 feet.
Wow.
I know how tall the Washington monument is.
555 feet and one fifth of an eighth of an inch.
I remember my tour guided like eighth grade saying that over and over again.
It worked.
All right. So the trade is give up.
What's the league?
Josh Allen.
It's a dynasty league.
But one QB or super flex?
No, it's not a dynasty league.
We get to keep four players each year, and there's –
oh, so this is not rookie picks, and it's not super flex.
All right, it's a four-player keeper league.
Give up Josh Allen and Antonio Gibson and the seventh pick.
Get Javante Williams, the third pick, and pick 3.8.
Done.
I like Javante better than Gibson.
You're obviously getting a four pick upgrade.
And 3.8 versus Josh Allen.
And 3.8 versus Josh Allen, yeah.
Okay.
And so that would really be like 7.8.
Everybody's keeping four players, right?
I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think I still... I mean, I don't think we have enough information to grade this trade. Incomplete. I guess. Yeah.
Yeah, I think I still... I mean, I don't think we have enough information
to grade this trade.
Incomplete.
All right, this is from Jason.
Hey, Deuce, Richard, Willie, and Najee.
Steelers running backs?
Mendenhall, Parker, Harris.
Deuce?
Daly?
Deuce Daly.
No, he didn't.
No.
Deuce Bettis?
Deuce McAllister was not ever on their team, right?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Figure it out, Heath.
What are the names again?
Deuce, Richard, Willie, and Najee.
The last three definitely seem like Steelers running backs.
How do you not put Bettis on there?
Or Franco?
I can only keep four of these six players.
It is a standard scoring league.
Keepers move up one spot from their previous draft position.
You cannot keep the first round picks.
I have the 11th pick out of 12.
Okay, Dalvin Cook for the 11th overall pick.
So Dalvin Cook in the first round.
David Montgomery, he doesn't tell me the rounds.
So just pick players, four of six, non-PPR.
Dalvin Cook, first round.
David Montgomery, T. Higgins, A.J. Dillon,
Michael Thomas, Mark Andrews.
Just one? No, T. Higgins, A.J. Dillon, Michael Thomas, Mark Andrews. Just one?
No, four.
Standard scoring.
Cook, Andrews, Montgomery, and Higgins.
Yep.
All right.
Thank you, Jason.
Deuce McAllister did not play for the Steelers.
Hmm.
Yeah.
I have no idea what this is then.
Well, it's good fun.
What numbers did they all wear?
Heath, look up their numbers.
Deuce McAllister wore number 26.
Okay.
What was Najee?
I don't remember.
Rashard Mendenhall wore number 34 and number 28.
So I don't think that's...
No.
I mean, they're all...
Okay, Najee Harris was number 22.
So they're all with...
I think these are running backs who all wore jerseys
from somewhere between 22 and 34.
All right.
Have a great weekend.
Huh?
There's no college connection.
Nope.
We're still on this?
All right.
You know what?
Write us back, Jason.
Let me go back.
So round six.
Definitely not taking the quarterback.
I may have had – I may have had I may have it
oh no
I was gonna say
um
Deuce McAllister
was picked
23rd overall
Rashard Mendenhall
was picked
23rd overall
but
Najee was 24th
and
then I remembered
Willie was
I don't think
Willie Parker
was like a 6th round pick or something wasn't he I think he was und I don't think Willie Parker was like a six round pick
or something, wasn't he?
I think he was undrafted.
Yeah, right.
Well, that's it for today's show.
But what did we learn today?
Let's recap.
What did we learn today?
We learned that
everyone's favorite part of the show
is probably the two to three minutes
that I was gone.
So I'll have to go back
and listen to that.
No, we learned that
you're not going to watch
day three of the NFL draft.
That's probably true.
I mean, what do I have to watch it for?
I just track it on my phone.
I don't have to really watch this stuff.
I've watched plenty of day threes
of the NFL draft.
It's not...
So when Heath and I and Dave
are doing our show on HQ,
you're not going to watch?
Can I honestly tell you the truth?
I hope nobody can hear this in my house.
Thursday is my wife's birthday.
I'd like to do something nice for her,
but Thursday and Friday
are going to be basically impossible.
So I'd like to go out for lunch
on Saturday with her and the family
and maybe some others.
Why don't you go out for dinner
after the draft is over?
Because then,
because we have to do a podcast
when the draft is over.
So then it's like,
the podcast is at. Not at 6?
The podcast is at 6.
You're not getting me at Saturday at 6.
I don't know if you're on that one.
I don't think I am.
My son's 10th birthday.
I'm not doing it.
Right.
Okay.
So there you go.
So we're doing a podcast at some point.
I don't know that we're doing a full-length show.
It might be a show. Do it later.
Who's listening at 6 o'clock?
Will there be more fantasy-relevant running backs
drafted on day three or day one?
Day three.
Not close.
Yeah, probably.
No, I'm going to say day one.
No one's getting drafted on day one.
Brees Hall is going to make it into the first round.
No chance.
Well, there are very, very few fantasy-relevant running backs.
We'll make a bet.
This is going to be in your favor.
If a running back...
No, it's going to be in my favor.
If a running back goes in the first round,
if a running back goes in the first round,
I cannot give away any podcast league spots.
If none go in the first round, I get to give away one.
I'm so sick of you giving away podcasts.
You're taking them from the contestants.
I've never given away a bad one.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know how you'd measure that.
I've given it away to people that have special circumstances or military members.
Fine, fine, fine, fine.
I get one.
Deuce Staley did play for the Steelers.
Maybe he just spelled
Deuce. I mean, it's spelled wrong in the email.
I don't remember Deuce Staley on the Steelers, so
it must not have happened.
This is an invalid email.
All right, so Brees Hall or another running back
goes in round one, then I cannot give away
any podcast league spots. I love it.
I love it. It's the only thing I'm going
to care about on draft day now.
I don't even care about
the fifth and seventh pick anymore.
If no running backs
go in the first round,
I get to give away five.
No, one.
You said one.
No, no, we said five.
Keith heard it.
We're out of here, everybody.
Have a great weekend.
Everybody loves me
giving away spots.
Everybody loves me
giving away spots too.
I can't do that
because you give them all away.
We'll talk to you on Monday.
See you later. bots too. I can't do that because you give them away. We'll talk to you on Monday.
See you later.