Fantasy Football Today - Early Busts for 2026: Players to Avoid Next Season + Kirk Cousins signs with Raiders! (04/02 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

We open the show by discussing Kirk Cousins signing with the Raiders (2:00) and how his arrival could impact the fantasy outlook for Las Vegas skill players. From there, we break down our early bust c...andidates for 2026, starting with the latest news from the NFL Owners Meetings (8:55) before diving into three full lists of players who may struggle to return value next season. We begin with Heath’s bust picks — from Trey McBride (24:00) through Bucky Irving (40:20) — then move to Dave’s list, featuring CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens (45:00) through Tucker Kraft (55:50). We close with Jamey’s bust candidates, including De’Von Achane (59:40) through George Kittle (1:14:58). If you're searching for 2026 fantasy football busts, these are the players to approach with caution before draft season arrives. Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. The Raiders have a new quarterback. We're talking about bus for 2026 and once again, no Adam Azer.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Welcome to fantasy football today. I'm Jamie Eisenberg. That's Dave Richard, that's Eve Cummings. Got a fun show for you today. It's April 2nd. And just before the show starts, we get the news that the Raiders, the Raiders, have signed Kirk Cousins. And after all the talk that we heard at the NFL owners meetings and some things leading up to the owners meetings, on the day after the Indiana Pro Day, when the Raiders got a chance to see Fernando Mendoza throw,
Starting point is 00:00:55 they decide to go get what might be their week one starter because it sounds like Clint Kubiak does not want to rush a rookie quarterback. onto the field. So gentlemen, welcome to the show. How do we feel about the idea of Kirk Cousins handing off to Ashton Denti and throwing to Brock Bowers in week one? It's good. Biggest news of the offseason. Very, very happy. Some much needed stability. There's lots of other veterans they could have chosen for this role that would have done worse. It's funny because from the quarterback position in redraft, I'm not sure how much it matters at all. We weren't drafting Mendoza really as anything close to a starter. We're not going to start Kirk Cousins.
Starting point is 00:01:40 In a Super Flex League, now you have to roster both. And I, hopefully, if Mendoza's good, it's going to be like a month of Kirk Cousin starting. Could it impact how defenses play Las Vegas with Cousins? Are they going to be less afraid of intermediate throws and longer throws and maybe stack the box a little bit more against Ashton Gentie
Starting point is 00:02:06 and could we see more of similar types of struggles for Genti against defenses that are just so keyed in on him even with an improved offensive line until Mendoza gets under center and starts to attack the long range. I mean, we certainly could see that. I guess the question would be is heath just said a month.
Starting point is 00:02:28 So if we're talking about four games of Kirk Cousins. And now I don't think that probably changes the Brock Bowers ranking because I think a lot of people still excited about Bowers no matter who the quarterback is and the fact that he's going to be hopefully healthy last year got off to a sluggish start
Starting point is 00:02:45 because of knee injury in week one. But with Gentie and where he is, I think we said yesterday as high as RB8, right? Yeah. Am I right in that? Are we both, all three of us have him in that range? when you start to compare him to, and I don't know if you guys feel this way, I know I do. Ken Walker in his new surroundings with Kansas City,
Starting point is 00:03:11 O'Marine Hampton with his new coach and hopefully offensive line, healthy. I think anybody else that may creep into that range. Derek Henry, obviously, still. Jacobs. With Jacobs be there? Like, you may have some trepidation if it's Kirk Cousins for a month. now Bijon Robinson was great with cousins in the starts that they had together last year so that's that's positive i don't know like yeah i'm a little worried just with the idea of of this now potential topsy-turvy situation of what it could be if you don't seem to be concerned not really i mean and listen and michael pinnicks and mendoza are not the same exact person either sure um but like if you look at Bichs and bichs and John last year.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I don't, I don't see some, he was five yards per carry, weeks one through 11. He plays weeks 12 through 18 with Kirk Cousins and he's 5.4 yards per carry. Like, it's not like we saw Bijan's rushing efficiency hurt by Kirk Cousins. If anything, I think having a veteran that is capable of seeing what the defense is doing and making the right call is a positive for this offense. I don't, Kirk Cousins isn't, he's not a good starting quarterback, but if you're talking about guys who are backup quarterbacks who could be starting until Mendoza is ready, he's in the upper half of those guys.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I would say, Jamie, that you undersold Bijan when you said, yeah, he was really good with Kirk Cousins. It was the seven games that Heath just talked about. The efficiency was there rushing wise. It was 26.2 PPR points per game. That's insane. I worry a little bit about just assuming that Ash and Gentie is as good as Bejan Robinson and that Ashen Jenty will get the same type of receiving volume. And that's because we can't we can't call Jenty that guy.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I don't think we should have that kind of expectation. Does it mean that he'll be okay with Cousins, especially within the new offensive line? Yeah, maybe. But I'd have a little bit of worry about it. I don't know if it's enough for me to put Jenty behind Hampton because it might be four games. It might be eight games, or it might be no games. If Mendoza goes out in training gap and he's on fire, Raiders aren't going to, I don't think that they'll fake a situation
Starting point is 00:05:35 where we're just going to wait and take our time when they can try and win some games with Mendoza. We should be really clear. We're not saying that Ashton Genty is going to be as good as B. John Robinson was with Kirk Cousins. We're saying Bijon Robinson was not worse when Kirk Cousins took over. So I'm not sure there's any reason to downgrade expectations for Genti based on what they were before this signing.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Yes. And also the situation is probably worse for the Raiders than it was for the Falcons because of where they were as a team and everything that goes along with that. I just think it's, you know, it's not just the fact that as cousins. It's just that there's now the change that we could be seeing for better or for worse, whether Mendoza comes in and is better or just because the team is now awful at that point when Mendoza decides that when they decide to start Mendoza. To your point, Dave, I think if Mendoza goes out and crushes it, does that change the philosophy of what they want to do?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Which sounds like not even give him the chance to start just because they want him to sit and learn for a little bit. Who knows? You know, who knows how much of Kubiak is going to stick to that? It's just rhetoric or it's going to actually play itself out and we see what happens in training camp. But now, Kirk Cousins is a member of the Raiders. And again, for now we're still going to rank and draft the top two guys accordingly. Brock Bowers, most likely back end of race. Round two, round three, early round three.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Ashton Genti, early to mid round two. Their receivers are what they are at this point. I don't think this is going to impact how you approach Jalen Naylor, Trey Tucker, Jack Bess, any of those guys. So we'll see how this all plays out. Some other news and notes that we'll get to before we get into the bus. I said we would do this yesterday. Things coming out of the owner's meetings, but also things that have happened in the last
Starting point is 00:07:18 couple of days. There's nothing really to discuss about this situation aside from. We hope that everything is okay. Pugna Kua, according to his agent, checked into what's being called a luxury treatment center. Hopefully he gets whatever help he needs. And we get one of the best receivers back on the field playing at a high level. So something to monitor throughout the rest of the offseason. Again, something will keep you up to date on as we get more information as it unfolds.
Starting point is 00:07:42 ESPN story came out from the Cardinals that they are expected to have a running back by committee. That's not a surprise to us. I think we expected that with James Connor and Tyler Algier. However, in that story, Algier said that when he signed with the Cardinals, they really did not discuss what his role was going to be and how many touches he was going to get. So, Heath, when you look at this, we've spent some time talking about this breaking down drafts, etc. Tyler Alger, I mentioned him as a sleeper on Monday. I know Dave's been in that, you know, driving that bus as well.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Does Tyler Algier, James Connor, Trey Benson situation, scare you, Heath? Like, you just want to avoid it all together or, you know, maybe take late around fly. hire on whoever's left. How do you approach the Cardinal back? Yeah, I don't really feel very good about drafting at Cardinals running back in the first 10 rounds. So I think that indicates scares me. And it's partially the committee, which we expect. It's partially Conner's health risk. Like he's the best of those backs, in my opinion, and the least likely to play a full season. It's partially uncertainty over the role. But also, this could just be one of the five worst offenses in football.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And that's okay if you have a running back who gets a vast majority of the touches or dominates all of the passing work and collects a bunch of garbage time points. That doesn't seem like the type of situation we're going to have here at all. I think there's still a mystery as to who's going to have the short yardage roll in terms of touchdowns. Connor's been very good at that in the past. It's also kind of Tyler Algiers thing. There's a mystery as to who's going to be the third downback or the two-minute drill guy. that was Trey Benson at the beginning of last year when Connor was the leadback. So this could be a three-way split on a terrible offense that doesn't score very many touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I am not excited. Makes sense, and we'll see again how this plays out. We'll see what average draft position tells us as we get closer to August, but it could just be, again, a waiting game, see what your fantasy roster needs. If you want to wait out the James Connor potential injury, you take a chance on Alger, you want to take a chance on some good production while he's healthy. Maybe Connor's the guy to approach. I think I would just take a late-round flyer on Tray Benson.
Starting point is 00:09:50 We'll see if he stays on the team. That would be a player I'd like to see Traded at some point before the start of the season. Dave, I know you'll be excited about this. I think we all will. Colts, general manager, Chris Ballard, says this quote in regards to Josh Downs. I think Josh Downs is freaking good. I think allowing him some more opportunities. We're going to see some of the special stuff you've seen in the past, but more.
Starting point is 00:10:12 So we know Michael Pittman no longer a member of the Colts. They sign Alex Pierce to the big deal. is Josh Down is going to be somebody that we just see flying up, average draft position, draft courts, et cetera, because of the chance that he could be a potential starting wide receiver in three receiver leagues right away. Last year, he averaged eight and a half PPR points per game on 5.5 targets per game. And there were points in the year where we all thought to ourselves, man, man, man out in Indianapolis. And he was banged up a little bit, too.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Take you back to 2024, 7.6 targets per game, 13.1 ppr points per game. game. There was no Daniel Jones at that point either. There's also no Tyler Warren and Al Pierce wasn't the thing, but Michael Pittman was obviously on the team. I wonder if that's close to where Downs could get. Could Downs get to seven targets per game? I do agree that he's probably the big benefactor with Pittman leaving, Pittman leaving behind 111 targets. Do almost half of them go to Josh Downs? That would pump up his target volume quite a bit. That makes him an interesting fantasy play. I like him just after that range of wide receiver three.
Starting point is 00:11:19 He kind of is a wide receiver three in full PPR. But I don't think you have to draft them in the same group as Pearsall and Dobbs and D.K. McGaff and Jaguars guys, I think he's behind there and I think he'll end up being good value. Yep, I totally agree. I think it's going to be fun to see how this offseason goes for him because they're probably not done adding to the receiver room. But Josh Downs, huge, huge rocket ship emojis based on the Michael Pittman trade.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I'm going to take quick break. come back with some more news and notes items and then get to our bus for 2026. All right, welcome back to fantasy football today. Heath, I'm going to file this under, Does It Matter in regards to two signings that the Titans made this week? They signed KJ Osborne and they signed Michael Carter. Does it matter? Nope.
Starting point is 00:12:04 There you go. Dimeco Ryan says that Tank Dell will be back quote at some point this year. Dave, are you drafting Tank Dell? Probably not. Late round picket best. What about if you have an IR spot, would you stash them there? Is he going to be IR eligible? Will he start the year on the Pup list?
Starting point is 00:12:22 If that's the case, I might be more interested. Yeah, sure. In that scenario, I might be a little bit more interested. By the way, they change the Pup rules again, where a player can open up his 21-day practice window after week two, I believe. So players that begin the year on the Pup might not be on the Pup for very long. Makes some interesting roster decisions for fantasy managers, but we hope to see Tankdale back.
Starting point is 00:12:47 He did not play in 2025 at all after getting hurt at the end of 2024. Heath, Aaron Glenn says Mason Taylor should take a big step and have, quote, a hell of a year. Are we looking at Mason Taylor as a potential starting fantasy TED-end at some point this season? Sure. On a buy week when you need to stream somebody? I don't know disrespect meant at all to Aaron Glenn, but I don't really put a lot into the things that he say that seem to have fantasy
Starting point is 00:13:16 irrelevance. He speaks very optimistically about a lot of guys and they have not shown a good offensive plan at all. And he's a defensive guy. So, yeah, I think Mason Taylor, like rostering him as one of two tight ends you draft late like Dave likes to do, kind of makes some sense if you get somebody like Travis Kelsey in round 11 and then you want to take Mason Taylor in round 13 or 14 and maybe he is the second option in the passing game right now. I think Garrett Wilson and Adonai Mitchell could both be ahead of him in terms of targets. And if you're the third option on a Gino-Smith-led Jets offense, I'm not super excited.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Makes some sense, but did show some promising signs last year. And really, we didn't get to see Garrett Wilson, Mason, Taylor, at the same time. And then obviously they had Adnan Mitchell at the trade deadline, so we didn't see all three of those guys working together. And I would guess this is a receiving court that's not done yet in terms of what it will look like for 2026. Dave, the athletic reports that Jordan James is the, quote,
Starting point is 00:14:14 front runner to be the top backup for the San Francisco 49ers. Is he going to be some money that you're drafting in every league if you get the chance with a pick in the double digit rounds? I'm excited about this one. Yes. And if I've got Christian McCaffrey, if I take him with a round one pick, I need to make sure I get Jordan James just in case McCaffrey, not that I'd expect James to be anywhere near as good as McCaffrey, but he seems to be the first guy up. They said in that article that James, like, became the better running back in practice. and leapfrogged Ike Rendo for that role. And so if that holds over the course of the rest of the off season,
Starting point is 00:14:51 then this is absolutely a player that double-digit rounds, you've got to get him if you've got McCaffrey, that's just to make you feel a little bit better about the investment that you'll make in a 30-year-old running back coming off of 450 plus touches in a year. Yeah, I would want to get him if I don't have McCaffrey as well, just because he's going to be 30. McCaffrey will be 30 in June. And last time he had over 400 total touches was 2024.
Starting point is 00:15:14 2020, excuse me, 2024, we played four games. So something to keep an eye on there. Now, last year, they also had James and Garendo, and then they signed or traded for Brian Robinson, Jr. late. So just something to keep an eye on there as well. But if they stick with the current backfield of McAfree,
Starting point is 00:15:31 James, and Garendo, then James looks like the handcuff that will be targeting. Heath, this is probably more of a dynasty question than a redraft question, but Mike McCarthy, when asked about Caleb Johnson, excuse me, they're a rookie that they drafted last year that barely made an impact. He said that everybody's got a clean slate. So does Johnson still matter to you knowing that he was somebody that people in the first round of rookie drafts were selecting was in the conversation to be the, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:58 be the, you know, maybe third or fourth running back of the class, did not materialize at all and now seems to be on the outs for fantasy managers and we'll see what it means for the Steelers after they had Rico Douttle this off season. Yeah, not drafting Caleb Johnson in redraft. not cutting Caleb Johnson in Dynasty. Like we're getting to that point. We'll have the NFL draft. People maybe have to cut some players to make room for rookies.
Starting point is 00:16:23 He's one of the guys that I want to hold on to, at least until we get to September. Okay, so we'll see what happens in terms of the backfield there for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Again, we hope to see Caleb Johnson do something under Mike McCarthy, but last year was just a disaster with Jalen Warren and Kenneth Gainwell, dominating touches for that backfield. Dave, Broncos general manager, George Payton, says that J.K. Dobbins is fully healthy. He suffered that foot injury in week 10, missed the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:16:50 RJ Harvey was the lead running back for Denver. As now, it's going to be Dobbins, who they brought back on a one-year deal. And Harvey, again, how are you viewing the Broncos back field for 2026? I'm still drafting Harvey first. I feel like I should be more excited about RJ Harvey because here's a second year running back, scored a bunch of touchdowns, definitely flashed a number of. of times, but really just didn't have a lot of great consistency over the course of his rookie year. Could he take a step forward? There's no question he could. And I think we would know,
Starting point is 00:17:22 we would, I don't know if knows the right word, we would expect a second year player to take that step forward rather than a guy entering his age 27 season who's been battling injuries his entire career to be a big factor. I don't think either running back is a top 24 guy right now, maybe on the cusp in the case of Harvey. He'd be the one that I'd rather have. But I just, I don't want to get too excited about him. And I, and I don't want to, I guess I would settle for J.K. Dobbins to ride my bench to begin the year. And then if he ends up just being that lead back for Denver again, all right, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I'll start him. But I don't expect a lot in the way of receptions. And he's kind of a touchdown or bus type of guy. Yeah, I think I actually view him as Dave said, to ride your bench. I kind of view him as one of those zero R.B guys. where you draft a couple of guys that maybe aren't starters yet but you think could be. And then I think I got Dobbins in round 10 of our last mock draft. And he's probably maybe a week one starter in that situation.
Starting point is 00:18:23 You have two situations. I'll talk about this with the bus in terms of the Patriots backfield and the Broncos backfield, where the guy that we don't want to necessarily draft first is the one that might be the better of the two. Dobbins in Denver and Ramandre Stevenson in New England because of how they both performed in 2025 in conjunction. with the guys that were expected to take their jobs. Last news item here, Heath, I know this one will not surprise you at all, but Bill's coach Joe Brady said that Dalton Kincaid still dealing with knee injuries, may have a snaps managed all season.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Is this just a guy we can't draft at this point? And compare him maybe to Mason Taylor about a tight end two that you'll take with a late round pick. I think I'd probably still be more interested in drafting Dalton Kincaid just because of how efficient he's been when he's on the field and the fact that he has Josh Allen as a quarterback. but he's definitely not someone that we can view as a guy you draft as a starter. Just frustrating, and now the addition of DJ Moore, we'll see what they continue to do to the rest of their receiving core.
Starting point is 00:19:21 They bring back Dawson Knox, so that's just another strike, I think, against Kincaid's upside. But such a talented player that just unfortunately is dealing with knee injuries since he entered the NFL, who knows he'll ever see the best of Dalton Kincaid. But we'll get those stretches like Keith said. You know, when he's on the field and he's been getting opportunities, he's produced. It's just very frustrating.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And to his credit, he's played through those knee injuries, but just hasn't been able to stay healthy so far yesterday. Jamie, I've got one other note to pass along. I heard this on Sirius XM NFL radio. Liam Cohen was being interviewed, and he said that replacing Travis E.TN is going to take a stable.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And so he didn't name any specific player. They didn't talk about Chris Rodriguez and what his role will be, your basal tune or anything like that. He just referred to that running back room as more of a stable. That sounds like committee. That put some ice cubes down my shirt on basal Tutin and how excited that I would be to draft him.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah, again, I don't think they're done would be my guess. You know, I know you said this yesterday that you felt like they have their three guys in play. It wouldn't shock me if they go out and get somebody else or, you know, see what's on the market. Remember last year it was at this point or following the draft when they drafted Tutin. We didn't know if it was going to be ETN, HN, if it was going to be Tudon, if it was going to be Tudon. if it was going to be Tank Bigsby, who was coming off a strong 2024. And then they trade Bigsby and open the door for the two guys to be the lead options. And obviously, ETN at the time ran away with it.
Starting point is 00:20:51 So we'll see what they do, draft weekend and maybe even leaning up to the start of the season. All right, let's get into our bus. Heif gets to go first today. So five guys that you listed as players based on your going off the fantasy pros consensus rankings, right? Yeah, I think using ADP this time of year, It doesn't help us a whole lot, but this may predict where ADP is going. Yep. So understandably so.
Starting point is 00:21:14 You're using some data points to sort of point you in the direction of players you're looking to. I don't know. I don't want to say the word avoid because I'm sure you would take these guys if the cost is right. But where they're being ranked or in some cases eventually maybe being drafted, they're going to scare you a little bit. So Tray McBride, Devante Adams, James, James, Bucky Irving, and Christian Watson. Let's start with Tray McBride.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Is he still your number one tight end? Is this more of an overall selection versus where he's based on the position. Brock Bowers is my number one tight end. That's only part of the problem, though. Another part of the problem is that as we've talked about a lot, we've got three second year tight ends that we are extremely excited about as breakouts. We all chose them as breakouts.
Starting point is 00:21:54 We've got three, four maybe more veteran tight ends that we're very excited about as better than just that 10 point per game guy, but somebody who could actually matter at the tight end position in Sam LaPorta, Isaiah likely. Kyle Pitts and Tucker Kraft. Maybe one or two of those guys we don't all agree on. The point being that one of the reasons that we were taking tight-ins so early is because the options later in the draft were so bad, and that doesn't really seem to be the case anymore. Now, maybe this will be a huge fooled you when we get to October and tight-in is just terrible again,
Starting point is 00:22:30 but I don't think so. I think the position's much deeper than it used to be. And listen, that wouldn't matter if I thought Trey McBride would. was going to do what he did last year again and get 10 targets per game and score 11 touchdowns. And then he's probably still worth a second round pick because he's as good as a top 10, top five wide receiver. I don't think we should expect that at all. First off, one of the reasons that Trey McBride was so good last year was because they threw
Starting point is 00:23:00 the ball so much once Jacoby Brissette took over. I do not anticipate they're going to have to throw it a lot still because they're going to be playing from behind. they're bad. I don't think they're going to lead the NFL and pass attempts as a team. I don't think they're going to be one of the most pass-heavy teams in the NFL like they were in the second half last year. And while I don't think Trey McBride's going back to scoring one to three touchdowns, I think you probably look at somewhere in between that and the 11 that he scored last year. It's a new offensive system. The tight-in centric offense is gone. That doesn't mean McBride's
Starting point is 00:23:34 going way away. He may still lead all tight-ins and targets. but it might be with eight targets per game instead of 10. I could see a big drop off in terms of his volume, a drop off in terms of his touchdowns, and a shrinking of the gap from tied in two through eight, two through 10, depending on which of those guys you like, to where the 15 fantasy points per game he may give you this year
Starting point is 00:24:01 isn't that special. So when would you draft Bowers? and when would you draft McBride? I'm probably going to have Bowers and McBride both in round three. Both in round three. So there's a chance you don't get either one. And again, I was saying that I'm not sure I want to take Loveland in round four. There's a chance I don't get him.
Starting point is 00:24:22 The great thing is this year, there's seven other guys that I'm thrilled to have that I think might be within a point or two of the top guys. I mean, look, it's a great argument, obviously based on the depth of the position, which, you know, sometimes we, fall into this trap, unfortunately, that the debil the position looks like it's going to be good, and there's all these new guys and blah, blah, blah, and we're not even factoring, you know, where Sadiq goes in the draft, and he could be the next, you know, Warren, Fanon, and Love One type of player in the right situation. I have a hard time passing on McPryth, just based on what he's done, what he's done. Right. And I think, like, one of the things that kind of illustrates the point that I'm making
Starting point is 00:25:04 in terms of volume, we've talked about, especially Dave, the disappointment that Kyle Pitts has been early in his career. For his career, Kyle Pitts has averaged 7.9 yards per target. That's better than any year of Trey McBride's career. Like, Pitt's career average has been more efficient on a per target basis than McBride's. They both had kind of the same touchdown issue last year. McBride scored a bunch of touchdowns last year. Before last year, McBride scored a bunch of touchdowns last year.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Pitch just keeps going up by one every year. I don't I'm just really afraid that Drew Petsing leaving hurts that the volume decrease from the overall passing game hurts and touchdown regression hurts and he's just he's really, really good. I was a huge Trey McBride guy last year and Brock Bowers both. I just drafted one or the other pretty much every draft. But or both. Yeah, I drafted both in our last. Yeah. And I think I made the playoffs in that draft.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You did. But no, I just, I don't think that they are quite as much of the differentiators, partially because of them, partially because of the state of the position. Dave, you agree? I think the only thing I agree about is that there's a chance that McBride, the gap between McBride and the rest of the tight ends does shrink a little bit. I can't overlook what happened last year when Brissette went under center for Arizona. And Trey McBride had 10.6 targets per game.
Starting point is 00:26:37 10 of his 11 touchdowns. He averaged 21.1 ppr points per game. If I see that in round three, I will attempt to do a backflip at 49 years of age and however much I weigh these days. But it's possible that the target volume goes down, but I don't think it's going to be because of Drew Petzing leaving that suddenly LaFleur, the new coach in Arizona,
Starting point is 00:27:04 just completely ignores what Trey, McBride, it's just ignores as I said, he might lead the, he could lead the position in targets and lose two targets per game. The thing that I worry about with petting specifically and a little bit with Harold Fanon, too, is that it's not, it's those easy button tight-in targets. A lot of times they're using tight-in almost like the running back where they just dump the ball off to them in the flat. A lot of most offenses don't do that. A lot of them don't, but a handful of quarterbacks do. and over the course of Jacoby Brissette's career, that's exactly what he's done. And it's exactly what he did last year, that they can try and coach it out of him.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And they've got two receivers that they could do that with with Wilson and Marvin Harrison, Jr. But I, listen, dude, last 10 games of 2023, 15 PPR points per game. That's as low as it got for him. 2024, 15.6 ppr points per game. Last year, total was 18.6. I already told you that with Berset, who's still in Arizona, it was north of 20 PPR points per game. I cannot leave a player at any position with that type of upside on the board
Starting point is 00:28:11 when I get to the 20th pick overall in a fantasy draft and PPR this year. So I like McBride as closer to a top 15 pick, not a first rounder. I think that's a little too close to the sun, but I can't help but think that Trey McBride's going to continue to crush it in Arizona. And also to LaFleur's credit, he may not have the Stafansky Petzing background but also he comes from the San Francisco tree which has been very tight end friendly as well so the easy button
Starting point is 00:28:44 Therrands last year and then there's 17 different tight ends but also the the yak potential you know for what those guys have done yeah it's it's it's understandably hard to pass up on Train McBride but your argument I think for the depth of the position
Starting point is 00:29:00 and taking some of these guys later you know it does make some sense especially if one of of those guys hits likely becomes the type of player we've seen in Baltimore at times with the Giants. You know, Pitts continues to have this run now with Stefanski. Again, one of the younger tight ends still in the top fiveish range or LaPorta takes that step forward or craft, whatever. Like, it's fun. It's going to be a fun position.
Starting point is 00:29:23 So we'll see how taking McBride or Bowers early impacts the rest of the field. All right. Next guy you have is Devante Adams, who last year had a very touchdown friendly season. and missed some time due to hamstring injury is another year older. There was some talk. Sean McBey, apparently went to DeVante Adams and said, we may consider trading you and then I guess backed off on that.
Starting point is 00:29:45 You know, maybe the offers weren't there or just wanting to run it back with Matthew Stafford, another player that's got, you know, Hall of Fame credentials in Devante Adams. Is this a guy you just, you know, knowing how you approach older players? Are you going to avoid Devante Adams altogether or is this just, you know, waiting to see where he ends up based on his average apposition?
Starting point is 00:30:03 Yeah, I mean, his, His consensus rank right now is 35th overall. He is closer to 35th wide receiver for me than he is to 35th overall. So I won't be anywhere close to where he's projected to be drafted. He had 60 catches for 789 yards last year. Like, yeah, he only played 14 games. He missed a couple. But the only thing that could really change this for me is if this Puka,
Starting point is 00:30:33 Nakua situation turns into something that's going to affect the season. But as long as Puka is there, and we've talked about this a lot with Sean McVeigh, he's probably one of the best coordinators in the world at this. Remember the Tyler Hibby stretch? Like he just does things for a season or a half of a season, and then the league kind of figures it out, and he goes and does something different. I don't think we can count on Devante Adams having more target. it's inside the five-yard line than most players have inside the 20.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Like it was just, that was the kind of the thing that they did last year. It worked. But Devante Adams was a shell of his former self in every other regard, 56 yards per game, his lowest mark since 2015, 6.9 yards per target, his lowest mark since 2015. He's now going to be 33 years old already. Like, I do not. want to draft him as a top 24 wide receiver. So touchdown dependent.
Starting point is 00:31:38 It was, you know, frustrating. He only had three games last year where he didn't score touchdown where he had double digits in PPR points. And only one of those was over, excuse me, two of those were over 12. So it was touchdown or bust, essentially. And, you know, when you didn't get that, you weren't getting much from him. Plus, this is now, I think, I mean, certainly last year, obviously, you know, dealing with soft tissue injuries, that sometimes becomes a,
Starting point is 00:32:03 problem where these guys, as they age, they train differently, and it could be something that carries over. He don't want to see that, but just something to consider. So, Dave, are you with Heath on this? Is this a player that you're not going to target at his golf? Not as a third round pick. 37.7% of his PPR points last year came off of his 14 touchdowns. And so any regression there is going to sink that ship. So I think he's as a fourth rounder, as a settle for wide receiver two, I'm with it, but the draft could change that and send him even further south. Jameson Williams, next guy you have on your bus list, Heath, and this is a player, I'm going to guess, tied to the new offense coordinator and your investment in Sam LaPorte at the tight end spot because of how things may go there. So Jamo has been, you know, certainly a guy that we've been excited about at times the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:32:56 And last year, specifically when Dan Campbell took over play calling duties, things looked good for him. but we may not see the best of him with the addition of Sam Petson calling plays now for the Detroit Lions. I think you could tie a line between McBride and James as busts, the Drew Petting line, but you don't have to. Last year, there were 391 snaps when, and that's quite a few, when a Munrae St. Brown, Sam Leporta, and James and were all on the field together. Those 391 snaps, it was a 33% target shot. share for St. Brown, a 21% target share for Leporta, a 15% target share for Jameson Williams.
Starting point is 00:33:39 The running backs combined for 20% of the target share. They saw more targets in the offense than Jamison Williams. Now they've brought in an offensive coordinator who likes to smash those easy button targets two tight ends. I don't think among Ross St. Brown is going to see a big drop in targets. That would seem to be pretty dumb. And so I think we see Jamo still be a very,
Starting point is 00:34:01 a very good boom bust number three wide receiver. We talked about those guys yesterday with those guys that are going to win you maybe half the weeks with great performances. But as long as St. Brown and Leporta are healthy and Dan Campbell doesn't take the play calling duties away from the guy he just hired, I don't think James and Williams deserves to be, he's currently 41st overall.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I don't think he deserves to be a pick in the first four rounds. Good call. Dave, you agree? Yeah, he's a guilty pleasure for me, but he's still a fifth round pick. And if we could get a crown that says king of boom bus number three wide receivers, I think Jamo would wear it. And, you know, the deal with him, like, he can make one huge play. It'll be worth 11 fantasy points on its own.
Starting point is 00:34:49 And then you'll go ahead and get a few other catches from them over the course of the game, and you'll be thrilled that you started JMO. I do have a question for either. I wonder how many of those plays that St. Brown, Leporta, and Jamo were all in on together happened after the buy and what the target share looked like then. But I don't even feel like you should answer that
Starting point is 00:35:10 because it's not going to be a big enough sample. We just don't know. And there were times even in 2024 where it was really hard to expect a good game from Williams and Leporta. It was usually one or the other. And I'm going to guess it's going to be more of the same this year. So boom bus number three wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:35:27 It's what he seems to be right now. If he does manage to get an opportunity to be more than that, we're all going to look foolish because he is a very, very talented player, who on another team would be a number one wide receiver for that team and maybe even for fantasy if he got the volume to go along with it. I will say that Williams is six or seven spots behind Devante Adams in those rankings. I have Williams two spots ahead of Devante Adams in my projections. So I do like Williams better than Adams, but just neither one at that cost.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Two more guys for you. We'll stick with the wide receiver here. So the next guy you have is Christian Watson, another king of the number three wide receiver. He has a golden crutch, not a crown. What makes you nervous about him? Well, first off, the entire history of the Green Bay Packers under their current coaching staff, where they just don't throw the ball enough to one wide receiver to make them a must start guy. We got a small sample of Christian Watson being that guy last year,
Starting point is 00:36:28 but we pretty much only have small samples of Christian Watson because of, because of also his inability so far in his career to stay healthy. I'd really like him if we could be talking like around six or seven pick, but at 50th overall, that's around four or five pick. And I don't think it's that seems like it's not the ceiling because I do think Watson's talented enough that if they would change their philosophy and he would stay healthy, that he could possibly be better than this. but we just have so much evidence of those two things,
Starting point is 00:37:03 both his inability to stay healthy and the Packers' offensive philosophy of not throwing the ball a lot to one guy, that I can't make a pick at pick 50 based on both of those things changing. I am curious to see there was the report from ESPN that Zontavian Wix is being shopped. And we know they just move on from Romeo Dobbs, who left as a free agent. And if they don't do anything to necessarily replace those guys,
Starting point is 00:37:27 So we're talking about Watson and Golden and maybe Savion Williams and, you know, something else of a smaller addition with Kraft coming back and maybe less than 100%. Like, do we finally get that type of season from Watson where the targets spike a little bit, obviously playing time increases? And now you get to see what this kid is fully capable of. I'm sure if all these things, you know, sort of fall in place, you'll change your opinion. But I agree. The cost right now is just way too high for somebody that.
Starting point is 00:37:57 has a little bit of these uncertainties. Like we said this last week at some point. Like we're all excited about Christian Watson to a degree, but not at this cost. I think you said it best. Round six is kind of the spot. I think we start to entertain what Christian Watson is capable of doing or where you want to buy into it. Last guy for you is Bucky Irving, who, you know, got some interesting company this
Starting point is 00:38:18 offseason with the addition of Kenneth Gainwell, but also got a offense coordinator, at least in his first stint calling plays as the full-time guy. in Atlanta was very good for the running back there. Now, again, we're not going to make comparisons to anybody to Buzon-Robinson. But Bucky Irving, just too expensive? Or is this something where you're just out on the player? Well, part of this is I wanted to put a running back in my busts, and it was really hard.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Like, I'm much more closely aligned with consensus on the running backs than I am the other positions, it seems. But I am about five spots lower on Bucky Irving at running back and probably a round lower than what is round four cost is. I think when you, like, if you look at what they did last year in Atlanta with the running back, Bejohn was still really, really involved in the passing game, because Tyler Algier didn't do that at all. Kenneth Gainwell, like the one thing that he did really well was in the passing game. And I, the fact that Sean Tucker is going to be there too when he was the guy that took short yardage away from Lachia.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Yeah, he is. I think he came back. He got, they didn't tender him and then they brought, yeah, that's what I thought. him. I could have been wrong. I think he's got a real chance, real possibility of not being the guy who leads the running backs and targets on his team and not being the guy who leads the running backs and carries inside the five on his own team. And whether it was injury or not, he was not a good rusher last year. So I, I'm, I'm very concerned about the, like, big bust potential from Bucky Irving and think he's being overvalued. even at my projection.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah, certainly if Tucker's there, that's a bad scenario with Gainville there. I didn't see Tucker coming back, so I apologize. Dave, you out on Bucky as well? I don't know if I'm out on Bucky. I think if I draft Bucky, it's going to have to be at a sweetheart price. So I agree with Heath in the context of how we're talking about Bust today, that a lot of these guys just too rich for my blood based on where the consensus ranking is. And look, last year, first four games, no one was complaining about Bucky Irving.
Starting point is 00:40:31 He was averaging over 18 PPR points per game. But he was also getting 22 and a half touches per game. And I just don't see that happening again. I don't think they're going to overwork him. I don't think they have to. We could see Tucker earn a little bit more of a role than just the goal line guy. And Kenneth Gainwell might just slide right into what Rashad White was doing. All that being said, it is a new play caller.
Starting point is 00:40:53 And he might design the roles for these running backs a little bit differently. I think there's a lot up for grabs with Bucky Irving. I'm a little nervous taking him as a third round pick. We'll see how these guys get used in Tampa Bay and Bucky Irving. Just tough to invest early in him with a crowded backfield now in Tampa Bay. All right, Tom's going to get mad to me, but we're going to take a break right now. I apologize for waiting a little bit too long on that. We come back with Dave's Bus, My Bus, and wrapping up the show after the break. All right, we're back talking buss for 2026. Dave, I'm going to skip over the first suggestion you gave of late round quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:41:33 because I think everybody understands we don't like to draft quarterbacks early. Early round quarterbacks. Huh? Early round quarterbacks. Early round quarterbacks. We like to wait on quarterback. So we're going to skip over that one as one of your suggestions. Let's get to the next one, though, which I think is very interesting,
Starting point is 00:41:47 that you think that both Cowboys, Wide Receivers, C.D. Lamb and George Pickens are being drafted and ranked too soon. I see C.D. Lamb as the seventh player off the board. George Pickens is the 16th player off the board. I don't have them that high. We're coming off of a year where when they were together, the numbers were not bad for CDLAM. It was 16.6 PPR points per game. That's 12 games, everything except week three.
Starting point is 00:42:12 He left that game pretty early in, had 9.7 targets per game. That's still really good. That's like borderline round one good when you consider the context of the targets and the PPR points that he got. But there were only three games last year were both Lamb and Pickens had each 15 plus PPR points and another two where they had at least 13 each,
Starting point is 00:42:35 which means there were eight games when one of them did not. And it was usually Pickens that didn't and not see any lamb. That's why I have Lamb ranked higher ahead of Pickens. He seems to be a safer bet to get high target share and has worked with Dak Prescott quite a bit over the course of his career, basically his entire career, duh. I'm worried about overhyping both of these guys based on very small sample sizes of when they were hogging targets. And in the case of Pickens, it was when he was hogging targets in two games without CD Lamb.
Starting point is 00:43:06 When Pickens played, there were two games without Lamb where he had at least 30 PPR points. That's pretty crazy. But in the 12 games, he was at 16.1. That's pretty good. Like, I'm not complaining about that. I just don't want to take that in the middle of round two. as an example. I'd rather have Trey McBride than George Pickens on my fantasy team.
Starting point is 00:43:25 So I like these guys, Jamie. I just don't want to take them as early as people are suggesting that they should go. I think part of the reason they're going so early is because of the thing that we've noticed in our drafts when we get to round six and we look at the wide receivers, we're like, man, these guys are terrible. And we look at the tight ends and they're like, oh, I kind of like some of these guys. And so I have them back to back right now, lamb at wide receivers. seven pickings at wide receiver eight so i think i'm a little lower on where lamb is um because lamb was a first round pick and consensus rankings but i i'd take both of them in round
Starting point is 00:44:01 two i don't think lamb gets to round two that's the unfortunate right and pickings i always in the draft we've done i always felt like he's going a little bit too soon um you know look you see the upside you know you finally see him in an offense that you know to whatever degree you want to say featured him featured him, obviously so. And he looks like the superstar that, you know, I think a lot of people thought he could be at Georgia before injuries and some of the behavior stuff. But like Dave said, you know, a lot of his spike games came when, you know, I think there was three games actually where Cedee Lamb left early and then, you know, missed two.
Starting point is 00:44:36 So you had those big performances from him. I think it's, it's obviously looking at what this team has now become where the defense is now being rebuilt and we'll see to what degree that's being rebuilt. The run game, you know, I think we all looked at Jamonte Williams last year and said, okay, maybe he's got an opportunity and he excelled in that role, but is it a good run game, you know, and that's one I think we, at least for me, you know, still have some trepidation. Like, can they have success, you know, being a power running team? I don't think that's the guy to do it behind.
Starting point is 00:45:09 So it's Dak Prescott's offense. And in Dak Prescott's offense, these two guys have the chance to be awesome, especially if C.D. Lambs' touchdowns bounced back because that was the thing that was missing. the most from his game last year. So, you know, it's a matter of, do you want to invest heavily in both of these guys? And as we talked about, you know, Dax had a hard time staying healthy. We talked about us last week. Dax had a hard time staying healthy back-to-back years.
Starting point is 00:45:29 If he goes down, the ship goes down, you know, essentially. You invest heavily in the Bengals, which is the guy Dave's going to talk about next one of their receivers. So I've been avoiding them not because of their cost necessarily or because I don't think they're bad. It just feels like there's a little bit too much. of these two guys taking away from each other now, you know how I feel about holdouts. If George Pickens is a holdout,
Starting point is 00:45:52 I'm all the way in on CD Lamb, and I'll probably be all the way out on Pickin's. So this is to keep an eye on after giving him the franchise tag. So we'll see how this all plays the stuff out. Jerry Jones saying that they want to work out a long-term deal with George Pickens. So hopefully that's the case. And he is back to being the type of player we saw last year. All right, Dave T. Higgins, another bust for you.
Starting point is 00:46:12 What concerns you about the number two wide receiver for Cincinnati? It's the track record when he's not in a contract year, just the fact that he's right around 15 PPR points per game. Again, very good. I'm happy to take him. I'm just not taking him on the early round three. Let's call it early round three, which is where the consensus rankings have them. Last year was 14.1 ppr points per game, but 10.2 non. I actually like him a lot better in non because of the touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:46:41 It's had double-did touchdowns each of the last years, but he's failed to have 75. catches or a thousand yards each of the last three years. That's concerning. That makes me a little bit worried. Back on injury concerns with him, he's missed at least two games each of the last three years. Burrow, he's missed time each the last couple of years. And it just makes me a little nervous to invest too heavily in T. Higgins when there are
Starting point is 00:47:07 other receivers, especially in full PPR, that I think will have the same type of volume, probably maybe even a little bit more because Higgins was around six and a half last year. So yeah, more volume, certainly more catches, certainly more yards, more touchdowns, probably not. But that's the difference between PPR and non-PPR when it comes to T. Higgins. Give me both the Cowboys receivers. That's an easy one. But also Olave, Garrett Wilson, in full PPR, Abuka, who I'm high on. A.J. Brown's a close one for now.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I think I would take Brown over T. Higgins. I just think he's going at the wrong end of round three. The only thing is it kind of sounds like we're double counting the injury concerns for T. Higgins and Joe Burrow. Because when you cite per game numbers for the full season over the last couple of years, you have to take into context how much of that is T. Higgins leaving games early or Joe Burrow not being there. When T. Higgins, Joe Burrow, and Jemar Chase have all been healthy, T. Higgins has been a high-end wide receiver too. You look at it last year,
Starting point is 00:48:15 there were only 291 snaps where they all three played, which is a big problem, and I wouldn't want to discount at 231, I'm sorry. But it was a 28% target share for Chase, a 24% target share for T. Higgins. If he has a 24% target share on this Bengals team that might throw 700 passes, I'm all the way in in round three on that.
Starting point is 00:48:37 And I do think for what it's worth, Joe Flacco being there. Not that it's Joe Burrow, but... It's not Jake Browning. It's not Jake Browning. You know, the parachute is a little bit better, you know, if, in fact,
Starting point is 00:48:51 Burrow misses time again and, you know, please stop playing flag football. But, you know, T. Higgins, you know, he's got to stay healthy also as well. And this factors in. You know, Dave just made the case for what Pickens did when Lamb is there. We haven't seen a lot of games where Jemar Chase misses. If Jemar Chase misses time,
Starting point is 00:49:08 Tee Higgins is in the top three conversation. Oh, yeah, but I don't think we should draft him for that reason. No, no, no, no. You're drafting T. Higgins for 24% target share on a team that's going to throw the ball 600 plus times. And what he's done on his resume, you're right, Dave. He certainly had a spike season in a contract year that's not abnormal for players, as we're well aware. But he's still a pretty good player himself. I get not wanting to draft him at his cost because there are some.
Starting point is 00:49:38 other, you know, pretty solid receivers around him. I'm more inclined to draft him just based on what his, you know, potential is and his resume. But I get, you know, anybody that's been burned by T. Higgins, I'm not saying you have, but anybody who's burned by T. Higgins because of his injuries and because of Burroughs injuries have, you know, probably had enough at this point saying, okay, I'll take AJ Brown or I'll take, you know, the upside of a Bucca or maybe a Luther bird, you know, younger, younger wide receiver. So I get it. Next guy is D.K. Metcalfe for you. Is he is he still somebody that you think fantasy managers are going to target? I don't think this guy that you don't even like where he's being ranked.
Starting point is 00:50:16 I don't like where he's being ranked. I don't think he should be targeted. I don't like the situation. The only hope that you can have with with D.K. Meckath is that Mike McCarthy insists on fast-paced, heavy pass volume offense like he did for pretty much every year in Dallas and for plenty of the years in Green Bay when he was with Aaron Rogers. I just, I don't know if that's what we're going to get because Rogers is older. He's definitely sensitive to pass rush pressure. He wants to get that ball out quick.
Starting point is 00:50:48 I don't think the Steelers offensive line is going to be particularly amazing. And they just added Michael Pittman, who's going to take targets away from D.K. Maccalf last year, McHaff had the obviously the highest target share on the team. It still wasn't even 20%. The next highest was Kenny Gainwell. Okay, he's gone. But now it's going to be Michael Pittman.
Starting point is 00:51:04 He'll earn more than the 10 and a half percent that Calvin Austin had last year. And I just, I can't, I, I certainly expect them to add another receiver in the draft. And I just, I can't get behind D.K. McCaff being any better than a low end number three wide receiver, which is kind of what he was last year. Maybe he was a little bit better than that. He averaged 12 pbr points per game. I'm not excited about that. I'm, I'm going to let somebody else take DK McHaff. Yeah, I think I taught, he was wide receiver 23 per game last year. So that I don't think he'll Just tells you about how bad receiver was last year, though. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I don't think he'll be quite that good. I think I have him at wide receiver 27, though. I think he's, I just think he's better than Michael Pittman. Like Michael Pittman is a much better wide receiver two than they had, but I'm probably more encouraged by the fact that Arthur Smith isn't going to be there, designing 40% of their past attempts to go to tight ends and back up running backs, and think that there were just going to be a lot more wide receiver targets available than there were last year. so maybe it's 110 to 20 for both Metcalf and Michael Pitman.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I think Metcalf's likely to score a lot more touchdowns than Pitman. I'm kind of curious to see where he's going to settle in terms of ADP. I know where I haven't ranked, I'm guessing we're all someone in a similar range. I almost feel like he's going to be a bargain once we get to that point. Like right now, too high. I agree. Don't want to draft him where he's being. I didn't even see. Where is he right now? In the consensus rankings?
Starting point is 00:52:38 Yeah. Around six, seven turn. I'm pretty okay with that. Yeah, seven for sure. Seven for sure. We had a good question. Metcalf or Sutton? I'd go Sutton.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I'll take Metcalfe. I'll probably go Sutton still, but it's close. It's close. I mean, look, you're banking on Rogers at his age, still being able to have success. If, in fact, it is right? It's not Rogers, then no, for sure. If it's Will Howard, for example.
Starting point is 00:53:11 All right, last bus for you, Dave, is Tucker Kraft. And surprising, but there's a reason for it. We've talked about these guys quite a bit, the tight end position and the second and third tier, depending on where you want to put, you know, Kraft. Why is he a bus for you? He's tight end three in the consensus rankings. It's the only reason.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Cost is too high. Obviously, if he's healthy and ready to go, definite potential, you're going to draft him to be a starter. He's going to be a top six tight end on draft. but top three, are really going to take Tucker Kraft in Green Bay's offense coming off of an ACL over one, two, or all three of the second year tight end phenoms that we seem to love. I don't know if I'm ready to do that yet. I think he's certainly going to be a must-start fantasy tight end.
Starting point is 00:53:58 No question. But I think I'm going to lean toward Loveland, Warren, and Fanon until it is just crystal clear that A, he's back to his old self, and B, he's going to see maybe even more than the five and a half targets per game that he had last year in Green Bay. Yeah, 100% agree. And I would not want to draft him at tight-in four or five either. Right. What's the earliest you would take?
Starting point is 00:54:23 Tighten six. What round would that be? That probably is round six. Round six for me. That group, once you get past the three young guys, the three second year tight ends of Loveland, Warren, and Fanon. with Lopida, I didn't want to put Leporta in there, but I think he just, you know, it's easy to separate them.
Starting point is 00:54:46 By default. By default. Who else are you going to put in there? No, no, no. What I'm saying is like Leporta with those three guys, but I think, you know, it's just easy to separate the three sophomores, you know, because of their, their classification. So then you get Leporta and Kraft and Pitts and likely Kelsey Kittle.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Like, that's the, to me, that's where the draft starts at TITDA. Like, you know, which of those guys, is going to go first, which of those guys is going to be good, which of those guys is going to disappoint us? You know, I mean, it's going to be multiple, I'm sure, but on both ends, like which of those guys are going to, you know, sort of define the position? Because this, if we're talking, what would you say, both of you, rounds six through eight where those guys go?
Starting point is 00:55:30 That's where they usually go in our drafts, yeah. So, I mean, that's still a pretty heavy investment for what could be outside the top 10. I do love the fact, and I think I've done it in the last couple of mocks. I love the fact that you can draft your starting running backs and starting wide receivers and your flex and still get a tight end that you see has top five upside and then drafting a quarterback. Especially if you like the next group, which is, you know, Dallas Goddard and Ferguson and Breton Strange and, you know, Ronde Gaston, like, there's still some guys that have. upside Chigalconquo, you know, take two of those guys and, you know, and see how it plays out. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:15 I'm going to run through my bus quickly because some of them are, the case is relatively easy, maybe not the first guy, but the first guy, I want to hear what you have to say. Well, it's really just, you know, he's talked about the Cardinals offense being awful. I mean, this Dolphins offense could be absolutely miserable, and this team could be absolutely miserable. And now you're taking Mike McDaniel away from A.Cand,
Starting point is 00:56:35 and we'll see, you know, what the new coaching staff has, which we know has some names. on it that we don't necessarily love, you know, Petulow's part of the staff and, you know, former offense coordinator for the Texans on. His name's escaping me right now, you know, as their play caller, right, he was on their staff last year. Like, this could be bad, especially if we lose the receptions for Devon A-chan.
Starting point is 00:56:58 And that's what we saw when Tua was benched last year. In his final four games, he had three catches or less in, I'm sorry, his final five games, he had three catches or less in, four of them. And two of them, he had one catch or less. So if we lose the receptions, we lose the high-end potential for him. Now, I don't know if that's necessarily going to happen, but you have a running quarterback now in Malik Willis,
Starting point is 00:57:22 so we know how that typically goes. Will he throw the ball to him enough to get him in that 70 catch range, which I think is what he needs to be in the first round conversation? So when they trade Waddle, it kind of was like, okay, this team's going to be awful. And I like the fact that they came out and said, you know, he's one of their pillars and they're going to not trade him and they're going to build around him, which makes sense because if you get him on a cheap enough deal, then why would you not want to keep him and obviously give the fan base some hope? But we know this team what they're doing. They have a two-year window of trying to rebuild their roster. When Tua's money comes off the books, they sign Malik Willis essentially to a two-year deal.
Starting point is 00:57:57 I still think Devon A-Chance talent will shine through. I still think he's going to be a very good fantasy running back. I just can't see myself right now drafting him in round one. And that's very difficult to do because of what the other running. back's behind him don't have the same upside. You know, James Cook is awesome, but he can't do what Achan does in their current systems and schemes based on how the teams use them. Derek Henry's older.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Ken Walker, I don't think is there yet. I'm not ready to say Ashton Genti's there yet, but I would take these guys over him at this. I mean, not Henry, but I would take these guys over him. At least that's the way I'm leaning right now. I love him in round two. I hope we're going to see him in round two. I still think we're going to see him get drafted in round one, and that's what's
Starting point is 00:58:35 scared. I believe he's pretty low in the, consensus rankings. He was round two. Yeah. So you're not alone in this sentiment at all, James. It's, yeah, it's, it's, the dolphins are very scary. I'll feel a lot better if they have some wide receivers on the team at some point.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Yeah. Like I, you could say, well, the dolphins haven't been great to begin with, but they have had many moments with Mike McDaniel where they've put up a ton of points on the scoreboard. You can always point to that game against Denver when they scored seven. It's what Heath said about the Browns. They've been one of the better bad teams, you know, because the Browns' defense has kept them in games. The Dolphins' offense has kept them in games, you know, when their defense has been bad. So, again, you're losing the play caller.
Starting point is 00:59:20 You're losing, you know, what has helped, you know, easy manufacturer touches. And now we're just relying on him to be potentially a runner, which, again, he's going to be involved in the passing game. I don't know what you haven't projected for, Heath. But, like, is it going to be north of 50? And I don't know if that's the case. Yeah, I'm still adjusting, but I do have him north of 50 for now. But what did he have last year? Didn't he have like 80 catches last year or something?
Starting point is 00:59:46 85 targets, 67 catches. Yeah, I don't think it gets quite that high this year, just between Willis, his tendencies, Slowick and his tendencies in Houston. Neither one were big-time throwers to running backs out of the backfield. I think you could use the same argument that he used for McBride for A-chan. And that is to say that there should be a volume drop and there's certainly going to be a touchdown drop.
Starting point is 01:00:11 But it doesn't mean that he's going to be a bad player. He can still be really good for fantasy. He averaged 20 fantasy points per game last year. Okay, if that comes down to 17, that's still not bad. And by the way, what if we're wrong on this? And A. Chan just is a house of fire. He's a really good player. That offensive line isn't terrible.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Maybe he does. The problem is who else getting back up there. Like the tendencies are all there for them throwing the ball to running backs a lot less. Yes. The problem is they. have nobody else. Jalen Tolbert. You're a friending Jailen Tolbert. Malik
Starting point is 01:00:46 Washington. Greg Dulcich. Those, I think, are there top three options in the passing game right now? Is Dulcich a late round tight end sleeper? They're going to have to throw it to somebody. Right. All right, next two guys, we can combine Trevion Henderson and RJ Harvey. You know, I kind of remember this earlier.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Just out, yeah, I mean, I don't want to call them. I don't want to say that they're in this category, but we saw how this played out last year. Harvey at the beginning of the season, when J.K. Dobbins was healthy, was miserable, you know, and had a couple of spike games because of touchdowns and reception totals. But clearly how the season unfolded at the end of the year, he was so touchdown dependent and getting fed that you didn't get to see,
Starting point is 01:01:31 I think, maybe what he's capable of doing, but I don't know if Sean Payton likes what he's capable of doing because it doesn't necessarily run well between tackles. And I think with the Dobbins resigning, kind of gives you an indication what his role is going to be. So the positive for RJ Harvey is that J.K. Dobbins can't stay healthy. You know, I saw some stuff in the chat earlier when we were discussing Dobbins about, you know, how we're just waiting for the inevitable injury, which sucks because he's, you know, proven to be a good running back when on the field. And that's the benefit to Harvey. I also don't know if they're done with what their backfill is going to look like.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I keep waiting for, hey, I know that guy in New Orleans might not be part of your wrong. roster anymore. Does Alvin Kamara want to come play for me in in Denver? That would obviously change things about this entire backfield. I don't mind drafting Harvey. And I think you're right, Heath. You draft Harvey first. I also think you're right in what you said. You can take J.K. Dobbins at his cost and get good, if not great production out of him to start the season. The only thing missing for him last year from Dobbins being a much better fantasy option was the touchdowns. And so if he gets back to scoring like he did in 2024 with the Chargers, then we're talking about a guy that could be a very solid fantasy.
Starting point is 01:02:37 option. Now, Harvey was great at the end of the year. No question about it when he was getting those opportunities. I just don't see him getting those opportunities until there's an injury. So you might have to deal with a slow, sluggish start for RJ Harvey as a fantasy option. And then if Dobbins missed his time, you have a potential, I don't want to say league winner, but certainly a potential starter. And he helped a lot of people win leagues last year. It's just a matter of, can he get the production when Dobbins is there? And then for Trevion and Henderson, my God, the upside is amazing. We saw what he could do when there was no Stevenson. in those two games. We saw what he can do when he breaks these big runs. And he's capable of that
Starting point is 01:03:11 on almost every touch. However, when we got to the playoff run for the Patriots and the end of the season for the Patriots, it was the Ramandre Stevenson show. And so are we going to see the best of Trevion and Henderson? And where these two guys are being, you know, going back to the consensus rankings, you're going to put that up there, Thomas Henderson ahead of Harvey at this point. I just find a hard, I find it hard to buy into both of these guys at where they're going to be drafted from what we've seen in our drafts, and certainly where they're being ranked right now, it just feels like it's too expensive for what their roles are going to be, barring injuries to their respective back bills.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yeah, I get where you're coming from. And here's the worst part, at least as it pertains to Henderson. Do you remember how much hype there was about him last summer out of training camp? I was as guilty as anybody. And I saw him practice against the commanders. He was one of the best players on the field. So it's just strange. There's no question of the talent for, I think, either of them.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Right. But if we see him super talented and he looks good and everything's great. And then the Patriots just drag their feet on giving him opportunities. It's going to be really hard to buy into him. Like what would it take other than Remandre Stevenson having a terrible camp or getting hurt for people to say, all right, now it's Trevion Anderson time. It's going to take a lot. take anything. They're young
Starting point is 01:04:38 guys who make huge plays who we get excited about irrationally. But at the same time, like round five for Trayvion Anderson, I'm probably okay with that if he lasts that long. Because they're
Starting point is 01:04:54 young guys we get excited about irrationally. I think if you go about building your team the right way in the case of both of these guys, where you don't have to draft them as starters or you're comfortable enough if you're just looking at the screen here, Trevianne Henderson and then coming back to back with D'Andre Swift. So you know you have your fallback option or Camp Scadabu.
Starting point is 01:05:13 You have your fallback option. Or if you even want to take this step further, David Montgomery. So you know that, okay, Henderson is a luxury pick. If he hits and he's good and gets those workload, my gosh, I have a potential steal here. Same thing with Harvey when the Dobbins injury hits. But that's now saying you probably built your team with a, Hero RB approach. You have a running back in one of your first two picks.
Starting point is 01:05:37 You load up on wide receiver. You almost take the approach that he mentioned with tight end or quarterback, where you're just taking running backs wide receivers, your first four or five rounds. And then it's okay, I have my number one running back. I have my three receivers. Now we get to round five. I'm taking Henderson.
Starting point is 01:05:52 We get to round six. I'm taking Swift. And I'm good across the board. I don't mind that at all. But I think if you're taking Henderson as a, oh, I want him as a starter to open the season, I just don't like that approach necessarily right now, unless, of course, the cost is just, you know, great.
Starting point is 01:06:10 But, like, you see the guys that are going after him. I don't know how you guys feel. But like I like Swift better. I like Judkins better. I like Scada but better. You know, so I would take those guys over him at this point. With you on Swift. Not sure I'm with you on Judkins.
Starting point is 01:06:28 All right. Next guy for me is Jalen Waddle. We spent some time talking about this. I don't know if we've gotten to a full discussion where Dave was on a show. I think Adam's cut Dave off a few times talking about Jailn Waddle. but Waddle going to Denver. I like the addition, obviously from Denver standpoint. I think Waddle will be the best wide receiver for the Broncos based on the cost that they spent to go get him.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I just don't love Jalen Waddle as a guaranteed must-start fantasy wide receiver. To me, he's on the cusp of a wide receiver two, wide receiver three. I know Dave, you said once you re-evaluated it, you wouldn't have taken him in round three. I do not want to see Jalen Wall get drafted in round three. Right. To me, it's questionable even in round four. I would prefer him in round five. Dave, where do you come out on Jaylen Wattle now that you had a few weeks to sort of?
Starting point is 01:07:13 It's round four, especially if it's full PPR, because I do expect him to be the top target getter in Denver. I don't think that they acquired him just for him to split evenly with Cortland Sutton. I think he's a different type of receiver than Cortland Sutton and somebody who can mesh well with the strengths of Bow Nix, make plays after the catch in the short area, and then also make some plays deep. I think he's absolutely going to be not a phenom in Denver,
Starting point is 01:07:39 but I think he'll be good. I think he'll be worth a round four pick and full PPR. Four or five turn. Yeah. Yeah, I'm ahead of you guys on him. I just think you look at the way Bo Nix has operated with Sutton and Sutton still being there. The fact that it was 124 targets and 135 targets each of the last two years
Starting point is 01:08:01 with the second guy, one year being 70 targets, and the other guy being 102 targets. I still think they're going to spread the ball around a little bit. And a little bit being too much for Waddle and Sutton to both coexist. Because I just don't think Sutton goes away. I think he's still going to be a significant part of this offense. And it makes sense. I mean, you now have two good wide receivers that you could focus on and feature.
Starting point is 01:08:20 And while Waddle leads them in targets and should be better, I just don't know if there's a huge gap between what he does and what Sutton does, especially from a touchdown standpoint. So, you know, Heath, you asked the question earlier, or maybe Dave was Sutton or sorry, with somebody to chat, Sutton or Metcalf, who's better?
Starting point is 01:08:36 Like, it wouldn't shock me if Sutton is still in that 8 to 10 touchdown range just with a decreased amount of targets and Bo Necks just still giving Jalen Waddle those opportunities where we have seen him, the last two years,
Starting point is 01:08:50 really take a downturn in production when he's had somebody else on the field. It was prior to Tyree Kill really joining the dolphins when we saw the best of what Jalen Waddle can do from a reception total and obviously being featured in the offense. So I don't want to say that Cortland Sutton is Tyree killed because that's not fair. Yeah, I'm close.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Don't that. But it's still somebody else that's going to command targets. And if they're both around 110 targets, maybe even at best 120 targets, I just don't know if Jalen Wallow takes that huge leap forward. Plus, he's had a hard time staying healthy. And Dave, you pointed this out that when the run game has been successful for the team that he's been on, he hasn't exactly been very successful as well. So just makes me a little bit concerned about Jalen Wattle. I don't want to draft him as a top 20 wide receiver. and you see here and you're watching on YouTube,
Starting point is 01:09:34 Wadrys here at 22, just a little bit ahead of where I have him. So I would prefer to wait a little bit on where Jalen Waddle is. Last guy for me is George Kittle. I'm probably out just based on the injury. I know right now he's tied in 12 in the consensus rankings. I don't think that's going to necessarily be the norm as we just got a report that he may be ready for the start of the season. Who doesn't love George Kittle?
Starting point is 01:09:52 We all love George Kittle. We want to see George Kittle back playing at 100%. But coming off this Achilles injury, I probably will not draft him as a starter. I think he's a good number two tight end of draft to see what you get. But now you have Mike Evans there. You have Christian Kirk. They retooled this entire passing game.
Starting point is 01:10:07 I think it's going to be a slow start for Kittle. And then who knows if he bounces back to the level that he was at prior to this injury, 32 years old, not necessarily something that I like to invest in older players coming off significant injury. So rooting for George Kittle, hope to see him back playing at a high level. I just don't know if the fantasy production will be there for him. So somebody that I would rather take with a late round pick as opposed to reaching four as a number one. fantasy tight end for the season. Are you in round 10, round 11, later?
Starting point is 01:10:35 If I don't have a tight end at that point, then I'll probably be looking at, let's say, Kittl and Gadsden or Kittle, and depending on who's still on the board, we've seen likely fall to this range. We've seen obviously Kelsey fall to this range. So I'm not opposed to doing that if I like my roster. And then knowing who I'm drafting with, you know, can I still get a Mason Taylor off waivers or Gunnar Helm
Starting point is 01:10:55 or one of these guys, you know, Chico-Kankwell type of player. but you can even, if you want to, you know, pair Kittle and Tondjus and see how this all plays out, you know, in San Francisco to start the season because Tondis was good last year, as we know, when Kittle was out. But I just don't want to invest heavily in George Kittle based on, again, the injuries that he's dealing with and his age. All right, we'll get into more fantasy football conversation next week when Adam is back. I don't know what we're talking about yet, so I can't give the topics, but I'm sure it'll be fun. Adam will come back with some vacation stories, which are always good to make fun of. And this has been our bus episode for 2026. Our early bus will obviously talk a lot more about bus as the offseason on FFT Dynasty.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Jacob Gibbs is on tomorrow. It's the tight-in rookie tight-in preview. Awesome. Can't wait to hear that. I'm sure you guys will spend a lot of time on Sadiq. Who's number two? Who's number two, tenant? You know, there's debate about that, but probably Stoers.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Okay. So fun stuff there as we break down the NFL draft. He's doing a great job with that on FFT Dynasty. Check out. Check out Beyond the Boxport as well. And hopefully you enjoy today's episode of the show. of fantasy football today. For Keith Cummings, Dave Richard, Thomas Schaefer,
Starting point is 01:12:00 I'm Jamie Eisenberg. Thanks for watching, thanks for listening. We back on Monday.

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