Fantasy Football Today - Eight Segments of Fantasy Fun! (07/25 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:29 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays at his feet. He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Starting point is 00:01:50 What's up, everybody? Welcome to Fantasy Football today on Thursday, July 25th. I've got a challenge. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to get through eight segments in 50 minutes, 5-0 minutes. What do you think, Dave? Can we do it? I'm calling this show Eight Segments of Fantasy Fun. Five zero minutes. What do you think, Dave? Can we do it? Eight. I'm calling this show eight segments of fantasy fun. Can we do it? Is this one of the segments? No.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Then we're screwed. Well, hello to Dave. Hello to Jamie. Good morning. Did you watch Hard Knocks yet? I did. Oh, it was really good. I texted you about it.
Starting point is 00:02:21 You know I watched Hard Knocks. Oh, that's right. It was really good, and I have a note in here about what Nick Saban said about two rookies when he was asked who the toughest ones that he faced were. I thought that was very interesting, very revealing. Did you enjoy that they were higher on neighbors than Harrison? Their wide receivers coach seemed like organizationally
Starting point is 00:02:42 the Giants were higher on neighbors, not everyone, higher on neighbors than Harrison. I would say that as much as I love Malik neighbors, the Giants love him five times more. Right. I mean, they are convinced, it seems they kind of have to. But that was before the before the draft. You're not really speaking into your microphone today, Mr. Eisenberg. That was before the draft. Yes. Before the draft. Yeah. They loved him. They were thrilled to get him. And you could see the process of they gave you every scenario, Mr. Eisenberg. That was before the draft. Yeah, it was before the draft. Yeah, they loved him. They were thrilled to get him. And you could see the process of, they gave you every scenario basically of, okay, we're going to stay here at six if these guys are on the board.
Starting point is 00:03:12 If they're off the board, here's what we're going to do. Here's some other teams that might trade up. Here's what they're going to do. It was really cool. Anyway, eight segments. We have 50 minutes to do eight segments. And then the Falcons took Pennix. Right, exactly. Okay, I just want to say, we had an email about big plays. I know some of you out there, you play in leagues that award or reward big plays with fantasy points. So I just want to tell you my big play stat.
Starting point is 00:03:36 This is a wide receiver stat. There were 26 running backs, wide receivers or tight ends with seven or more plays that gained 30 or more yards. Of the 26, 21 were wide receivers were tight ends with seven or more plays that gained 30 or more yards. Of the 26, 21 were wide receivers, three were running backs, and two were tight ends. And if you make that eight or more plays
Starting point is 00:03:55 that gained 30 or more yards instead of seven, you don't have a single running back there. Barkley, McCaffrey, and Brees Hall had seven plays that gained 30 or more yards. That was the most. But wide receivers, and I looked at last year's, I looked at 2022 as well. If you play in leagues that give you points for big plays, again, I don't know what that is in your league, but I did 30 or more yards.
Starting point is 00:04:15 That is a wide receiver dominated stat. So just letting you know. Segment number one, here we go. We've basically got one day of training camp, maybe two for a lot of teams here, and we've already got this guy standing out. So training camp superstars is segment number one. Training camp superstars. Just tell me what's really interesting you right now, because there were a few players that made a lot of headlines. Yesterday, Deontay Johnson, another Rashad Bateman report.
Starting point is 00:04:46 This time it was a Baltimore reporter, Jonas Schaefer, saying Rashad Bateman has probably been the team's top wide receiver through the first four practices. Dalton Kincaid, I mean, I read one summary of Bill's practice that was like, everyone's been great. But Dalton Kincaid apparently has been the leader of the pack.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And Jamison Williams, according to Nick Baumgardner of The Athletic, Jamison Williams looks like a different player in training camp. So, Jamie, I don't know if you have other training camp superstars you want to talk about, but Deontay Johnson, Rashad Bateman, Kincaid, Jamison Williams, they were on my list. What do you think? I mean, Javante Williams certainly had a good day. He's in the news and notes, but, yeah,
Starting point is 00:05:24 that's more of like a role thing and a weight thing. Sure, Javante Williams. Put him in there. Training camp. Okay, so you just want players that did something? According to the people who were covering. What's the difference between Javante Williams and Rashad Bateman? Rashad Bateman has, according to one reporter, been the best wide receiver through four days of camp.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Javante Williams has lost weight and appears to be the lead back, which is not a small deal, but just, it was part of a different segment. Okay. I didn't know what you're getting at. Like somebody that benefited from whatever happened yesterday. No, I mean, you hit on, on, on a bunch of them. Do you care about them or is just fun? Anytime these things happen, anytime it's confirmation bias for whatever you think of the player. So Kendra Miller got a happen, anytime, it's confirmation bias for whatever you think of the player. So Kendra Miller got a terrible, terrible, terrible quote yesterday from his head coach after getting hurt.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And if you are an Alvin Kamara fan or if you are a Jamal Williams guy for whatever reason or you were hoping for Kendra Miller, then this was not a good day for the Kendrick Miller people. This was a very good day for Alvin Kamara people, you know, and probably a little bit of a boost for Taysom Hill and Jamal Williams. So I think if you're just in whatever side you're on, on these arguments, you know, these things that are going to happen. So if you were a Jaleel McLaughlin, Audrey Estimé guy, yeah, you had a bad day yesterday. If you were like Heath, you're a big Javante Williams guy, then you were really thrilled. So I think anybody that likes Dalton Kincaid, you hear these things,
Starting point is 00:06:50 you get excited. Anybody that likes Deontay Johnson, you know, the only thing that this hurts, honestly, is the cost gets more expensive. So whenever these things happen, they get bumped up or, you know, in some cases bumped down. But, yeah, I don't think you should go crazy for it. I think the other thing to keep in mind is are we going to keep hearing it? Like the Rashad Bateman stuff, it's starting to get a little interesting just because it's been nonstop from the coaches. And now here's a reporter saying that he looks good. And two weeks from now, is it going to be just like more glowing reports? I'm really more interested in the report than I am the coach.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You weren't on the show yesterday, Dave. Happy birthday, Dave. Oh, he left. He left the stream. Unbelievable. Yesterday was Dave's birthday. So happy birthday, Dave. Great colleague.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Happy birthday. Better person. Yeah, the Bateman stuff. The Bateman stuff is getting pretty interesting. All right, we'll keep an eye on it. That's segment number one. I do actually have a gift for all of you. Dave, you want to come back on?
Starting point is 00:07:56 I have a gift from one of our listeners. Come on, Dave. Come back here. Well, Jamie, this one, you'll probably like it even more than Dave. One of our listeners made us a little alternate intro. Okay. You know, now some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Here's what a guy named Daniel created for us.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Dan, and Heath. I thought you'd like that. Again. Again. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Dan, and Heath. I thought you'd like that. Again. Again. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Dan, and Heath. It's really funny. Is that Dan?
Starting point is 00:08:33 That's Dan. What do you think? I'm saying Dan. That's him. That's lifted from the episode. Yeah. Nice. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:40 That's a good first take. Next segment is called Two Round Discount. I'm going to give you players that are going about two rounds later in ADP than the other player we're going to be talking about. And you tell me, what are the chances that this player is better than the guy that's going two rounds ahead of him? Obviously, this doesn't mean you can't draft both of them, but just a fun segment here, Two-Round Discount. What are the chances that Devon Achan is better than Brees Hall?
Starting point is 00:09:06 Without injury? Yeah. Everything is better than Brees Hall? Without injury? Yeah. Everything is 17 games, no injury. Well, I mean like Raheem Oster injury. Yeah, everything is depth charge,
Starting point is 00:09:14 stone chains basically, no injuries, whatever. Just what are the chances that Devon A. Chan is better than Brees Hall? Slim. I agree, but would it surprise you if they're like off by one point per game
Starting point is 00:09:29 not without a rehemo surgery injury yeah this one yeah this one's the toughest one to sell all right what is that what are the chances that zamir white is better than josh jacobs oh that could happen and i'm the jacobs guy that could happen more touchdowns less competition for work yep both guys don't work in the passing game yeah would you take jacobs in the third or white in the fifth neither at that cost i'd be more inclined i like them both at that cost uh probably jacobs a little bit more than white the talk on marshall lloyd so far by the way speaking of like quotes from camp is that they like him as like a like a passing downspack yeah out of the backfield and it's something he never really did in college he flashed it a little bit
Starting point is 00:10:17 at the senior bowl maybe the packers have unearthed something with him in that role i thought he was really good catching pass because he didn't do it that much, but he did it downfield. There were some plays where he's streaking up the sideline catching passes. He showed some actual, Marshawn Lloyd we're talking about, some ability to not just be a dump-off kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Next up, what are the chances that either David Montgomery or James Conner is better than Ken Walker? David Montgomery or James Conner better than Ken Walker? Either one or James Connor better than Ken Walker. Either one of them. The chances are pretty good. Uh,
Starting point is 00:10:49 Oh yeah. Who's got a better chance. What do you think? Montgomery or Connor? I think has a better chance than Walker. Uh, than Montgomery to be better than Walker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Connor. Yeah. Connor stays. He should be really good, but you're asking a guy at his age to stay healthy. That hasn't stayed healthy. Okay. Do you like,
Starting point is 00:11:08 do you want to take Ken Walker as your RB two, or would you rather wait a couple of rounds and dip into the Montgomery Connor pool? I'd rather take Walker. I'd, I'd take Connor. I think there's a good discount there. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Two round discount at quarterback. What are the chances that Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen? Likely. Wow. Likely? Yeah. I mean, if the rushing touchdowns get cut in half, which is where he's been, and the passing craters, and Burrow is 20-21.
Starting point is 00:11:44 But that's likely to happen? Isaiah likely to happen? Sing happy birthday again. Maybe. It's possible. Maybe realistic. Is that a better word? Realistic, yes.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I agree. I think it's possible that it happens. I don't think it's far-fetched whatsoever. That's Joe Burrow being better than Josh Allen. But that does mean that Burrow would have to hit that ceiling of like 26 points per game. He can do it. We've seen him do it.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But that feels like kind of the wheelhouse, the middle. It's also going to be Josh Allen being bad. Right. If Allen is – but even a bad Josh Allen can still probably be at like 23, 24 points per game. In, in 2022, like this,
Starting point is 00:12:36 he played nine games in 2022 with chase and Higgins healthy, not leaving early with an injury. This is Joe Burrow. He was on pace for 28 and a half points in six point for passing touchdown leagues, with chase and Higgins healthy, not leaving early with an injury. This is Joe burrow. He was on pace for 28 and a half points in six point for passing touchdown leagues, 23 and a half and four point 4,945 yards, 42 touchdowns, six interceptions plus 223 rushing yards and four more touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And he was throwing 38 times per game. So that's a lot, but I mean, you're talking about you. He has been elite, you know, and we're talking, I mean, you're talking about he has been elite. And we're talking, again, six points for passing touchdown, not four. Yeah, but even in four points, he's really good.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Okay, what are the chances that Dak Prescott is better than Lamar Jackson? Oh, I think that that could happen. I'm starting to get a little bit... No, no, the opposite. I don't think that there's a chance of that happening. I'm getting a little worried about Dak. Yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:28 The schedule analysis that I did isn't favorable. CeeDee Lamb's not in camp. Let's get him back in camp. Lamar, I think Lamar's going to be better than Dak. Yeah, I didn't make the move. I dropped Dak behind Kyler, like I said. There you go. Yeah, Dak Prescott. I think this is
Starting point is 00:13:45 one of the guys that I said he absolutely crushed the NFC East last year, right? I mean, he just, like, 30 points per game or something like that against the NFC East, and I think the Giants maybe, but the other two teams should be better defensively than they were last year.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Giants maybe not, I'm saying. You've got to assume that Dan Quinn knows him. Yeah. Dan Quinn definitely knows him. That's going to be at least one tough game for Dak last year. Giants, maybe not. I mean, you gotta assume that Dan Quinn knows him. Yeah. Dan Quinn definitely knows him. That's gonna be at least one tough game for Dak this year. All right, we're almost done with two round discount. I'll do a few wide receivers. What are the odds that Devontae Smith,
Starting point is 00:14:16 what are the chances that Devontae Smith is better than A.J. Brown? I throw DK Metcalf in there. Devontae Smith or DK Metcalf better than A.J. Brown? Slim to none. Yeah. All right, next. I agree. That wouldn't be, I think there would have to be an injury there. Smith or DK Metcalf better than AJ Brown slim to none yeah all right next I agree that that wouldn't be I think there would have to be an injury there
Starting point is 00:14:28 what are the chances that Stefan digs or tank Dell is better than Nico Collins I could see it for tank you can see for both of them yeah I guess if digs has has like eight and a half targets a game all that stuff and just becomes the lead target getter there then sure but I just I I can't stop thinking about Tank Dell's synergy with Stroud last year I'll do one more here what are the chances that Trey McBride or Dalton Kincaid is better than Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Entirely possible. I mean, he's 35 and could have his snaps limited. Last year was his lowest snap count since his rookie year. So like he did in the second half of last year. First time under a thousand yards since 2017. Fewest touchdowns since 2019. I mean, there's flaws that we've seen. All right.
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Starting point is 00:17:34 There are two guys who were kind of buried that got good news yesterday, Javante Williams being one of them, Quinton Johnston for the Chargers being the other. Jim Harbaugh praised him, said he's got a bad rap. They still believe in him. Dave's shaking his head. Yeah, not buying that one yet. Not really buying Javante either,
Starting point is 00:17:54 but I think I'm done with Broncos this year. I don't think I want any Broncos on my fantasy team, and I'm definitely not ready to have Quinton Johnston on my fantasy team. But does this hurt? We all thought Josh Palmer is one of the best values right now team and I'm definitely not ready to have Quentin Johnson on my fantasy team. But does this hurt? Like we all thought Josh Palmer is one of the best values right now at 140th or so overall. Yeah. Still taking him.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Okay. Uh, Najee Harris, this, maybe you guys can clarify this news item for me. Najee Harris said that the Steelers, they declined his fifth year option and they told him they didn't know which direction the offense was headed.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Was that before? Do we know if that was before or after they hired arthur smith i believe it was uh after they hired arthur yeah it's it sounded like naji was trying to come up with an excuse because i believe he said uh sums the effect of they didn't know the the direction the offense going yeah that's it okay uh yeah there you go that checks cordaro patterson on the non-football injury list anybody who's on these lists early they could come off anytime like for example jayden reed he was on the nfi list now he's off that list gus edwards
Starting point is 00:18:56 had off-season surgery he's he's there he's reported to camp he's playing but they're gonna maybe ease gus edwards in slowly. So on hard knocks, Brian Dable, the day of the draft, I believe. I mean, I feel like this probably information maybe should have made the phone call a little bit earlier in the process, but he called Nick Saban and he asked Nick Saban who he faced that really gave him trouble. You know, like who are the guys that really stood out when they faced Alabama? And he said the two guys who were problems, and I can't quote Dable because he curses every five words, very potty mouth
Starting point is 00:19:29 Brian Dable, but the two guys who gave him problems were Malik Neighbors and Brock Bowers. He said they were just I don't remember. I think he said problems. They were just beasts. I just thought that was really interesting to hear it from one of the best football minds in Nick Saban Jalen Polk off to a good start for the
Starting point is 00:19:50 Patriots. Jermaine Burton. If you heard what Jacob was saying yesterday about Jamar chase getting more snaps in the slot, cause he's been so good in the slot, then you should be rooting for Jermaine Burton to get out there on the field and play for the bangles. Isaac Arendo hurt his hamstring for the 49ers. Not a good setback. You don't want to see that for a rookie early in camp. And Xavier Worthy, Jamie, Xavier Worthy, another injury. He
Starting point is 00:20:16 missed time in the OTAs. Now he has a hamstring injury. Seemed like the reports were very good for Worthy. Good connection with Mahomes. But, you know, is this something that we're keeping an eye on here that could really boost Marquise Brown, Xavier Worthy's injury? I think, honestly, the biggest thing, I made this move yesterday, it sounds like Rashi Rice may avoid a suspension this year. So, I mean, I put him back as the highest Chiefs receiver, and I didn't move Marquise Brown. But, yeah, this is troubling for Worthy.
Starting point is 00:20:46 You know, and you talk about preseason performances. You know, he had the biggest catch so far, at least the first big catch of the preseason, when he had the big play from Mahomes when they opened camp. So two injuries now since they drafted him, that's not encouraging. You know, so just something to keep an eye on there. For those of you who still may have rookie drafts coming up, that may, you know, sway you toward Brian Thomas or Keon Coleman or the guys that are in that range if you're undecided.
Starting point is 00:21:11 But in any event, you'd like to see him stay healthy because he's a big part, I think, of what they do. But clearly, yes, it's a boost for the other two guys. Okay. So why did you say that Rasheed Rice might avoid suspension? Well, I think if I read correctly, his court date's not until December. So the NFL, unless they decide to penalize him for code of conduct, then he may not face any disciplinary action. Now, it could come at the end of the year, which would be disappointing for anybody that drafts him with the hope of him being a contributor for the fantasy playoffs.
Starting point is 00:21:44 But I don't ever want to draft that way. I always want to draft to see what, you know, waiver wire is such a big thing. You know, get me off to a good start and play the level you're capable of. And it seems as if he's still Patrick Mahomes' go-to guy in what the camp target tracking is, you know, the first couple of days.
Starting point is 00:22:00 He's leaning on Rice quite a bit still, which makes sense. Okay. Would you draft uh rishi rice or malik neighbors um actually put them back to back uh i believe i put rice one spot ahead of neighbors but they're right there okay neighbors for me kendrick bourne patriots wide receiver he's on the pup list tyler higby's on the pup list higby rams tight end he has a knee injury he's probably gonna miss a decent amount of time. That's why Colby Parkinson could be an early season sleeper.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Could areas, Tony being used out of the backfield. I feel like I keep skipping over this note here. Dave, does this mean anything for you? Could areas, Tony getting some running back snaps. I wonder if that's being done to help him be an asset on kick
Starting point is 00:22:41 returns. Cause we've talked about this, that play the new kickoff play, it looks more like a running play than it does. What kick returns used to be. So maybe that's what that is on top of them getting maybe a couple of carries a game. Wouldn't be interested in drafting them unless it's like heavy points for
Starting point is 00:22:59 kick return yardage. And then I'd take a late round flyer. I think the interesting thing more so for that backfield is generic Prince was taking second string snaps behind Pacheco ahead of CH. Yeah. Minnesota. That could just be, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:14 similar that they're just trying to see what they have there, but clearly there's, there's a role that's missing without McKinnon. Minnesota cornerback, Mekhi Blackman tore his ACL could, could have been sort of a rotational piece for them T. Higgins
Starting point is 00:23:27 acknowledged that he thought about prioritizing his health you know because he's in a contract year but at the end of the day he's a guy who likes to work it wasn't really
Starting point is 00:23:35 a great quote to me if you are worried about Higgins sitting out if he's dinged up but you don't really know how to speculate on that one
Starting point is 00:23:43 Giants offensive lineman Jermaine Illuminor left with an injury, and right tackle Evan Neal is on the pup list, so that's both of their top two right tackle options currently hurt. And Kendry Miller, he left with a hamstring injury, and his head coach Dennis Allen, Jamie was alluding to this, said he's got to figure out how to stay healthy, and it's hard to make the team when you're in the training room all the time. So Kendry Miller stocked down right now. And Tua T a tongue of iloa he wants a new deal he's practicing but sort
Starting point is 00:24:08 of on a limited basis we are done with three segments let's go to segment number four well you saw there i'm sure you talked about iuk yesterday um the the um kamara instagram post was great uh did not see it. Not on the gram. So he, you know, some talk about him maybe being a holdout. And he just posted a picture of him and Marshawn Lynch. That's cute. Eating Skittles. No, but the assumption is I'm just here so I don't get fined.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah, that's what he said, basically. He's like, I'm not, he said, like, I don't want to get fined. All right, over-under. I came up with some over-unders here that are going to be a little bit higher, probably, than the Vegas over-unders because, you know, it's easy to go under as soon as the guy gets hurt. It's like, obviously, it's going to go under a lot of the totals. So these are 17 game over-unders for me. Derek Henry, 13 and a half rushing touchdowns over or under? And he has had 13 and 12 in his last two seasons.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Derek Henry, 13 and a half rushing touchdowns. Over. I mean, if I was putting money on it, I'd put money on the under, but I don't think he'd be under by very much. So I did Twitter polls for all of these. Under has 59% of the vote right now. So people are going under 13 and a half touchdowns, rushing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Let's go to Travis ETN, 12 and a half total touchdowns for Travis ETN. He had 11 rushing and one receiving last year. So we need to do a little bit better than that. ETN 12 and a half total touchdowns over under. Under. I'm under? Under. I'm under that again, and that's for fantasy, bets, anything you want.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I think that there will be another running back involved there to a degree. It might cost him one or two touchdowns. He's going way under here with the Twitter people. 77% are saying Travis Etn will go under 12.5 total touchdowns. This is funny to think. Why are we expecting total touchdowns. It's just funny to think, like, why are we expecting fewer touchdowns than last year for Etienne? Because I think he overachieved a little bit last year. Then I don't know. I guess maybe I'm splitting hairs,
Starting point is 00:26:16 but do you think he should be a second-round pick, Etienne? He still is because he's got lots of yardage and lots of catches. Betting over-unders versus what you hope their fantasy production will be. I don't think they're necessarily mutually – they're tied together. No, you're right. They're not. All right, Garrett Wilson, 1,250 yards. He has been in the 1,100 range into both of his seasons.
Starting point is 00:26:42 So, Garrett Wilson, 1,250 receiving yards. Over or under? Over. I would go over, too. It's a lot of yards, actually. 71% are agreeing with you guys on Twitter. 71% said over for Garrett Wilson, 1,250 yards. Each of
Starting point is 00:27:00 the top eight wide receivers last year had 1,243 or more yards. Let's say 1,250 is a top eight wide receivers last year had 1,243 or more yards. So if we, let's say 1,250 is a top eight kind of mark. I think Keenan Allen did that in like 12 games, by the way, something crazy, but you can be top 10 like Devante Adams and Stefan Diggs were wide receivers nine and 10. They had less than 1200, but each of the top eight went over 1,240 yards. All right, this one should be fun. This is a double dip, an Eagles double dip. Jalen Hurts, 11 and a half rushing touchdowns. Saquon Barkley, nine and a half rushing touchdowns. Before you answer, Philadelphia has had 25,
Starting point is 00:27:39 32, and 22 rushing touchdowns in their last three seasons. So this would still be under those numbers. Jalen Hurts, 11 and a half. Saquon Barkley, nine and a half rushing touchdowns in their last three seasons. So this would still be under that, those numbers, Jalen hurts 11 and a half, Saquon Barkley, nine and a half rushing touchdowns. What do you got? Under on hurts over on Barkley. I'm going to take the over on both.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I think they both get a ton of touchdowns on the ground. Very bullish. Okay. The leading vote getting option here was that only Barkley goes over at 40%. The other three options, both over, both under, only Hertz goes over. They're all around 20% or so, but 40% for only Barkley goes over.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And that's probably people... I don't know. Is that people thinking that the tush-push that won't be as good without Kelsey? I don't know what that is. I think they give some of those opportunities to Barkley. Yeah. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:28:31 All right. Over or under for Marvin Harrison Jr., seven and a half receiving touchdowns, and his dad had eight as a rookie. So thank you to Schaefer for that stat. That's important. Yeah. Seven and a half receiving touchdowns from Marvin Harrison
Starting point is 00:28:46 over or under? over I'll say 8 is over 8 or 9 that feels about right over is a slight edge 55% 54% do you guys think he gets to the
Starting point is 00:29:00 1250 yard mark? yes in that range probably a little shy, but close to it. I was surprised. DeAndre Hopkins, he played 35 games with the Cardinals. His 17-game pace was only 5.7 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I thought it would be more than that. Different offense. Yeah. I mean, I didn't mean to say that Harrison can't, but I thought it would have been more for Hopkins. What did Hopkins do in his full seasons there? He had one year where he did not score a lot of touchdowns. Then I thought he had one year where he kind of did. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:29:34 2020, he had 160 targets and only six touchdowns in 16 games. And then 2021, he had eight touchdowns in 10 games. And then 2022, he had eight touchdowns in 10 games and then 2022 he had three touchdowns in nine games i remember 2022 is a disaster all right hey guys you're doing great that's four segments down 27 minutes and 30 seconds let's go to segment number five of eight segments of fantasy fun it's fill in the blank it's from our audience fill in the blank from fish if rogers does not get injured, the Jets will be blank. Happy.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Competitive. Legit Super Bowl contenders. Sure. Legit playoff contenders. That'll be a wild card team. I thought they were a legit Super Bowl contender last year. I don't know why. I think a lot of people did. I don't know why. I think a lot of people did.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I don't know why that would have changed. He's 40 and coming off an Achilles injury. That's the start. Yeah, whatever. Got to hope. Listen, I know they made a lot of improvements to the offensive line. You've got to hope that that gels. Got to hope the defense plays well another season.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Got to hope that everybody that did okay to great last year does it again this year. There's also the potential of they get off to a slow start and Robert Salah's fired. Yeah, whatever. That may not hurt their Super Bowl chances if they put the right guy in place, but that's not usually a good formula. They have a great schedule.
Starting point is 00:31:06 They do have a great schedule after week one. Tennessee, New England, Denver, Minnesota. Then they get Buffalo. It gets a little harder after that, a little bit, but they do have a pretty fast start after the Niners. I like Mike Williams. I think that was a good addition for them. He's been a really good receiver the last few years.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I don't think he's going to start the season. It wouldn't be shocked if he started the season on the Pup List or whatever, but I hope he can give them something in the second half. All right. Mark Stewart says, some draft and stash players are blank. So you're not planning to use them or don't need to use them? Right. You just want to carry them on your bench and see what they're like after four weeks. This is like where Josh Palmer would come into play.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Palmer, Shahid, Picker Patriots guy. Corum. Jaleel McLaughlin. Kamani Vidal. Jameson Williams is probably off that list now. Yeah. Actually, I think it's possible. You think about it, I don't have their schedule, but...
Starting point is 00:32:09 Elijah Mitchell. If you draft Jameson Williams and Josh Palmer... Okay. Who are you going to start in week one? Of those two? Yeah. Chargers play Vegas in week one. I just feel like, you know, Jameson is almost... Jameson almost... like Jamison is almost like a draft and stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I want to see what his role is, what he's going to be. I feel more confident in Palmer getting seven targets in week one than I do Williams. I guess the question is, if you're drafting those guys to be starters, what happened to your first 10 rounds? Yeah, that's true. There's no problem there. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:42 You're stashing them, hoping that they hit their upside. I think Jamison has more upside than Palmer. As much as I like Palmer, I'm drafting Jameson ahead of Palmer. Oh yeah. I would have done that. I agree. But if I,
Starting point is 00:32:54 if I had to, if I had to pick one for week one, like I, Jameson Williams could go back to being like just a downfield threat. Right. Barely gets target. Yeah, but Palmer can also go five,
Starting point is 00:33:03 five for, for 50 in week one and jameson can go two for 80 in a touchdown i'd rather start jameson week one how many times especially the rams in week one certainly could be a high scoring game then they get the bucks and cardinals after that could be a fast start for the lions i don't know if james and williams has more as more than five catches in any game of his career. His season high last year was five catches. Yeah, but I mean, one catch for him could win you your week. I get it, but in PPR, are you really going to go with a guy
Starting point is 00:33:31 who you think could have two for 80? I guess it depends. Like, you know, did I draft a team in the middle of August and I got two starters that got hurt and I need to, you know, swing? Like, why are you starting these guys? No, you're not. It's just a hypothetical. But okay, Tim says,
Starting point is 00:33:46 if Marvin Harrison finishes as a top 12 wide receiver and Kyler Murray finishes as a top six quarterback, then Trey McBride will be tight end blank. Three. Four or five. And OJ Weber says, Jalen Waddell is a top blank receiver in PPR. 11.
Starting point is 00:34:08 20. I do love the difference that you guys have there. We started yesterday's show with Jalen Waddle, Jacob being very high on him, but I'm not sure if I gave the touchdown stat. I know I said it to Jacob off the air, but Waddle has just had a stunningly low amount of red zone, green zone, and end zone targets.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And if I looked at, he did happen to score eight touchdowns in 2022, but I looked at the last two years and all the players who caught eight or more touchdowns, and they pretty much all get targeted more in the red zone, in the green zone, in the end zone than Jalen Waddell. So he's going to have to have those splash plays or he's just going to have a different role.
Starting point is 00:34:49 But all right, we got 11 for Jamie and 20 for Dave for Jalen Waddell. And that is five segments. Way to go, guys. Let's take a break on fantasy football today. And when we come back, I've got more music to play. We'll be right back on FFT. Bumble knows it's hard to start conversations. Hey, no, too basic. Hi there. Still no. What about hello, handsome? Who knew you could give yourself the ick? That's why Bumble is changing how you start conversations. You can now make the first move or not. With opening moves, you simply choose a question to be automatically sent to your matches. Then sit back and let your matches start the chat.
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Starting point is 00:36:06 Anyone else get the vibe that John Mara hates Joe Shane? That would be the Giants owner and the Giants GM. I'm not getting that vibe. Are you? I guess I'd like to see Mara's interactions with everybody else. Because he feels like he's that kind of guy. Like just a little curmudgeon-y. I don't know. I like it. I like that he's that kind of guy like just a little curmudgeoning i don't know i like i feel like he's very he is just like i trust my front office if you guys believe in going up to trade for drake may then you go trade up for drake may you know he's not
Starting point is 00:36:35 like don't do it because you could i felt like he didn't want them to but he was like if you want to do it if you believe in him then do it yeah I guess the – I think it would be a different conversation if it was Caleb or Jaden as opposed to Drake. Yeah. Because there were so many questions with him. Listen, man. I got to say, Brian Dable, you got to sit up when you're interviewing people. Did you see that? It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Right? I mean, he's got Malik neighbors in his office and Marvin Harris and Roma Dunes, I think. And he is slouched on his couch with his feet on the table. He's so short that he's basically lying down. Yeah. Very unprofessional. I've had some conversations with people about it and Giants fans included. And one comment was, oh, no, he just wants to be, you know, he wants him to feel relaxed.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Maybe. That's a job interview. Like, no. It'd be so weird if you went to a job interview and the guy who's about to be your boss is just like laying down. That was really weird. Okay, anyway.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I did hear a story about a GM that interviewed somebody with their shoes off and feet on the desk. That's just weird, man. That's just weird. All right, here we go. It's time for the fantasy cops segment six of eight,
Starting point is 00:37:49 eight segments of fantasy fun. I forgot the name of the show. All right. This is from Thomas from fountain, Colorado. It doesn't sound like a real place, Dave. Is that a real place?
Starting point is 00:38:00 Probably. Yeah, probably. Dear Randy, Chris, Jake, and Adam biking. Yeah, probably. Dear Randy, Chris, Jake, and Adam. Vikings. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Every year, our league does a punishment for last place. The person who finished last asked for a different punishment, and begrudgingly, we obliged. He had 30 days to complete the IHOP 24-hour challenge. It has been 30 days, so I sent in the group chat, your butt better be in an IHOP right now. He responded with, I just saw this message. I'll do it. Well, the time is up in my mind and on the board members' mind of our league. We have kicked people out of the league before for
Starting point is 00:38:36 not doing the punishment and feel this is warranted since he backed out of the initial punishment, and now he's late on this second punishment. What is the verdict here? Also, Adam, bunting in softball is a weird move, but I understand your reasoning. Don't let those guys get to you. It was not a bunt. It was a swing. But what are you, are you kicking this guy out
Starting point is 00:38:54 for not doing the second punishment in 30 days? Definitely 100%, yes. First of all, I want to know what the first punishment was that forced them to change it to this punishment and the 24 hour IHOP challenge. It's annoying, but do it, man.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Like have some respect for yourself. You're in the league, you finished in last, you got to go and serve the punishment. And if he ever wants back in the league, 48 hour IHOP challenge. If, if he says he's going to do it after the reminder,
Starting point is 00:39:24 then he's got 24 hours to get it done. Yeah. But he's clearly not doing it. I think he's going to do it. He's not going to do it. Oh, I don't like the first punishment. Give me something else. And then they give him something else.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I'll do it. All right. It's time. I heard a fun one of one of our colleagues. I won't mention his name. That he finished last and his league mates made him dress up as Lord Farquaad from
Starting point is 00:39:49 Shrek and threw tomatoes at him as he had to run through some sort of passageway between them. That's Lord Farquaad? That's a pretty funny costume. What is the 24-hour...
Starting point is 00:40:08 How many pancakes do you have to eat? I think it's like for every pancake, you knock off one hour. So I'd be out of there in one hour. But most people would probably be stuck in there for close to 24 hours. The Waffle House one's tougher because waffles are just...
Starting point is 00:40:22 Yeah, waffles, much thicker. I don't know about that. Like, that like i hop pancake is probably pretty fluffy yeah but uh waffles compared to a waffle i don't think so i think waffles like you know they've got like indent all right we're gonna do one of our leagues this year well i think i'm happy to you know what i'll get a waffle and I'll get a pancake. I'll eat them on the air and I'll see which one is harder to eat, I guess. Do you accept that? Do you accept those terms?
Starting point is 00:40:53 No, I think we do the last place. I think there's, I mean, size pending, there should be more batter used in a waffle than in a pancake. That's something you're going to make yourself. I'm proud to say. No, I'm not going to make it. I'm going to go buy it. I'm proud to say I pretty much never finish in last place. That is just not... I just don't
Starting point is 00:41:14 finish in last place. Oh, boy. I don't. I mean, well, you know, a lot of people give up. If there was ever a call to the fantasy gods. If there ever... What was I quoting, Dave? I don't give up on leagues. You know, a lot of people give up. I don't give up on leagues. A lot of people give up. I don't give up.
Starting point is 00:41:28 All right. Now there's going to be a reason not to give up. You've got your marching orders. You've got to build a league that's got this last place finish, and Adam has to be in the league. I don't have to build a league. I'm just going to do it one of our analysts. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Make sure Adam's in. I'm not going to finish in this place. I never finish. I'm not going to do that. All right. That's the Fantasy Cops. Thank you, Thomas. Much appreciated. It's not going to do that. All right. That's a fantasy cops. Thank you, Thomas. Much appreciated.
Starting point is 00:41:46 It's time for segment number seven. Fantasy cops was one question in a full segment. Yeah, it's a segment. You know, we love the show. It's great, right? Segment number seven is fantasy combos. Which combos would you rather have? Just a reminder.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Not a not a good snack. Not a good snack. Kind of gross. Christian Kirk and Sam. I'm talking about combos. Christian Kirk and Sam Laporta. Or Brandon Ayuk and Trey McBride. I hope combos never becomes a sponsor of the show.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Do they exist still? I will take Ayuk and McBride. I'll take Kirk and Laporta. Okay. Kirk and Laporta, IUK and McBride. So this is, this is all based on ADP where Kirk and McBride are going around the same
Starting point is 00:42:35 range and Laporta and IUK. So it's when you take your wide receiver, when you take your tight end, Jamie says he'd rather have Kirk and Laporta. Dave says IUK and McBride. Okay, Dave, give me a reason.
Starting point is 00:42:44 It's just more upside for those two. I, you was great last year on hyper-efficiency. I expect more of the same this year and maybe even a little bit more target volume in San Francisco. Obviously that'll change if he doesn't do any practicing, doesn't do anything, continues to be a pain in the butt with this contract. But I still, as much much as I've argued against McBride, it's the argument against taking him with a top 40 pick. I still like him. I still think he's going to get a lot of targets. I think he's going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:43:13 In a PPR league, I'd rather have McBride and give up the upside of Laporta and still have a really good tight end and have a receiver that's just got sky high, top 12 upside, IUK has. I don't think Christian Kirk does. Do you agree with this? If Jamison Williams has a breakout fantasy-relevant season,
Starting point is 00:43:33 even if he's wide receiver 30 or something, it's more likely to affect Laporta than St. Brown? It's going to affect both of them. It's going to affect both. I. It's going to affect both. I think it would affect Laporta a little bit more, but they would both lose something. I don't know. I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:54 if Amon Ross St. Brown is a truly elite wide receiver, I don't know if it would affect him. Those guys get theirs. It might just mean a career season for Jared Goff. It could be that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Devontae Adams and Aaron Jones, former teammates. Jamie will take the other. I actually went old versus young here. Devontae Adams and Aaron Jones, or Nico Collins and DeAndre Swift? I have both the younger guys ranked ahead of the older guys to begin with, so easy for me. I don't really love either running back,
Starting point is 00:44:32 and I think I have Devante a little bit ahead of Nico. Can I do the IHOP challenge instead? Honestly, I'm just looking for a way to eat some pancakes here. Give me Adams and Jones. Yeah. Devante Adams and Aaron Jones versus Nico Collins and Deandre Swift. Okay. So split,
Starting point is 00:44:51 split there as well. How about, Oh no, I didn't get a second wide receiver for this one. Wow. I left this one blank. Yeah. So in the notes,
Starting point is 00:45:01 it says CJ Stroud and DJ Moore or Patrick Mahomes and C.J. Stroud. It's your own adventure. Give me a wide receiver, C.J. Stroud and D.J. Moore or Patrick Mahomes and? Tyreek Hill. I'll take Mahomes and Hill. Man, you guys are risk takers. So it had to be a wide receiver going around C.J. Stroud, which let's say that is probably in the Christian Kirk range, but I don't want to use him again. You want to say neighbors?
Starting point is 00:45:29 Yeah. Let's say Mahomes and neighbors or Stroud and D.J. Moore. Mahomes and neighbors. That is the upside play. I really do like, yeah, I'm going to agree. I'm going to say Mahomes and neighbors. Did you see who's uh been spending time with caleb williams dj who keenan allen aren't they all spending time with
Starting point is 00:45:53 him no but there's there's uh there's a story about them spending extra time together you know why because they were late to connect after the draft and it showed in minicamp but i totally expect it to be worked out by the time training camp's over okay last combo here more is going to be the lead guy there oh he is but he's going to be worse than he was last year unfortunately well yeah everyone's drafting but not by a lot even davis i think it's over catches. 80 and a half catches over under for DJ Moore. Under. Yeah, I'm going to go under. I'll take the over. All right, last combo.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Grilled to chicken and ice cream. Together? Grilled chicken for dinner and ice cream for dessert. Oh, good. Or pizza for dinner and Italian ices for dessert. Pizza. How's the chicken prepared? Honestly, yeah, you can do whatever you want good or pizza for dinner and Italian Isis for dessert pizza. How's the chicken prepared?
Starting point is 00:46:47 Grilled. Honestly. Yeah. You can, you can do whatever you want with the grilled chicken. Yeah. But obviously you're getting a dinner downgrade and a dessert upgrade here. So grilled chicken and ice cream or pizza and Italian Isis.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Is it any pizza or. Yeah. Yeah. This matters. Where's the pizza from wherever you want, buddy. Okay. I'm definitely a hundred percent pizza in the Italian ices.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And I'll probably take the Italian ice and throw it right in the trash. I'm going to go chicken and ice cream. Dave, have you been to, I want to say, I've been going there since I was in elementary school or middle school. So this is like 30 years now. And I don't know the name. It's either Cecile's or Cecily's. It's a, it's an Italian ice place on sample road.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Have you been there? Have never heard of it. Yeah. It's the best Italian ice place. You can't name it. Uh, Cecily's. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:39 It's a amazing Italian ice. They have a, my favorite is the banana cream pie. They have a banana cream pie italian ice really good you go when you have you gone when you've been home yeah i go every time pretty much it's like five minutes from my my house my where my parents live so uh i recommend that if you want to change your mind about italian ice by the way so uh adam and i went to lunch when he was now there's a tank in Adam's neighborhood. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:05 There's a house that has six Hummers, basically. It's like they're preparing for the apocalypse. It's really... I don't get it. It's the first house you see when you drive in there. I was like, what's going on? Yeah, I know. Adam lives in a war zone.
Starting point is 00:48:18 It's weird. Cool cars, though. All right. Segment number eight is a brand new segment called Emails at FantasyFootball at CBSi.com. We're going to end our show with some emails. FantasyFootball at CBSi.com. We also have a mailbag show tomorrow where we will be reading your emails,
Starting point is 00:48:33 but also your questions from our Draftathon Tiltify page. Come on. Let's go. Let's get it in under 50 minutes. All right. Here we go. This is from a blind guy in New Hampshire. And so he called himself. He said a blind guy in New Hampshire. And so he called himself,
Starting point is 00:48:46 he said, blind guy from New Hampshire, me. I haven't missed any of your shows in the better part of 10 years. I'm a year-round listener. I was fortunate to get the number one pick. Can you help talk me out of why I want to take Brees Hall number one over Christian McCaffrey
Starting point is 00:49:02 or possibly CeeDee Lamb if I want to go that route. Worried about the 400 touches, all that stuff. Um, you guys are awesome. Dan makes me laugh too. LOL.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I mean, look, you go, we're going to say the same thing. 28 years old, 400 total touches. I mean, my God,
Starting point is 00:49:23 can you imagine if Trent Williams doesn't show up like he right now he's holding out, um, there, there's pitfalls there for, for McCaffrey. So if you're concerned, my God, can you imagine if Trent Williams doesn't show up? Like right now he's holding out. There's pitfalls there for McCaffrey. So if you're concerned, first off, I'd try to trade it because there are a lot of people that would like McCaffrey. So if you can make a deal, maybe move down a spot or two, get another draft pick, or get another higher draft pick later in the draft, that's something to explore. But I think if you're concerned, I would probably pivot to Lamb personally. But
Starting point is 00:49:45 if you want to go with Brees Hall or B. John Robinson, they're all going to be special talents. I know for me, for my tiers, I put them all in the same tier for a reason. They're all going to be elite caliber running backs. So personally, if I'm not taking McCaffrey, I'm taking C.D. Lamb, assuming he shows up and is ready to go sooner or soon. But the first thing I would try to do is trade up. The game's about getting as many points as possible, not worrying about players getting hurt. That's what I learned when I was poo-pooing Christian McCaffrey two years ago. So I want to try and win the league.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I want to get as many points as possible. I don't want to try and dodge an injury. I think Christian McCaffrey is going to be awesome and still head and shoulders above pretty much everybody that's not a quarterback. So he would still be the pick. I'm using my brain, not my heart. And if it's three weeks from now and CeeDee Lamb still isn't in camp
Starting point is 00:50:36 for Dallas, oh, dude, I don't know if I would take him in round one, much less 101 because of the track record of players who miss camp and show up. And then there's an injury and then it's a mess, but I'll add this as a caveat. It's your team. And if you really have a feeling about somebody, usually it's easier to follow the feeling when it's around four, around six.
Starting point is 00:50:58 But if you've got a feeling about Bruce Hall and you think that he's going to be awesome, then take them, try and trade the pick. Jamie's advice was great, but you can't trade it? Take your guy. Take who you love.
Starting point is 00:51:07 It's your team. This is from Daniel in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Dear Frank, Ed, Al, and Nordberg. Naked gun. Okay. What did you say? They're bringing that back, right? No, they're bringing back Spaceballs. I don't know, right? No, they're bringing back Spaceballs.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I know they're bringing back Spaceballs. I'm looking forward to that. I thought I heard that Liam Neeson, maybe it was a scam, but Liam Neeson was going to play in the Naked Gun. Oh, you know what? That sounds kind of familiar. All right, let's get to the question, though. That'd be pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:51:39 What are everyone's thoughts about running back handcuffs when there's an obvious solid backup? And then what about taking both pollard and spears or both zach moss and chase brown that's another one we i don't know if you guys talked about yesterday what zach taylor said in regards to his backfield it almost made it sound like zach moss was the backup as opposed to yeah i think he was just kind of including him in the answer he was asked specifically about chase brown um i mean go back to the mcafree
Starting point is 00:52:05 question you know that's an easy one to handcuff because elijah mitchell's free you know so you don't have to reach for him and especially with the garendo news you know if he's dealing with hamstring injury and that further sets him back to compete for the number two job then you have clearly a special player there in mitchell he's not going to be mcafree but he'll get you by um i just i don't have the numbers in front of me but like every time in his. He's not going to be McCaffrey, but he'll get you by. I just, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but like every time in his career, he's gotten 10 plus targets. He's basically 14 PPR points or more. So he'll give you some replacement value, just not Christian McCaffrey replacement value. But yeah, it's, it's easy to take these backfields,
Starting point is 00:52:38 you know, and, and I think it was Ben Gretsch, right? The ambiguous backfield phrase that you can get both these guys, see what happens. You know, you don't necessarily want to commit yourself with a, you know, round six, seven, seven, eight, you know, depending on how you want to necessarily build your team to two players in the same backfield. But like Pete Prisco right now is in Tennessee and it's the same,
Starting point is 00:52:59 same exact thing that they've said. Callahan told him they're both going to compete. They're both going to opportunities. We don't have a guy that's a starter. They're one-on-one, you know? So it's the same thing we've heard throughout the course of the off season. So yeah, it's, um, it's, it's not bad to go that route, you know? So like if you go here, RB, for example, and then it comes down to who's your, who's your
Starting point is 00:53:21 two or two and three, take both bangles, take both Titans, and then get a fourth guy that, you know, hopefully we can give you some production to a certain degree as well if that doesn't work out. But you should get a second running back for sure. Okay, Dave, we'll go to our next question here. By the way, Daniel says, love the show. You all have a way about you
Starting point is 00:53:38 that makes your listeners feel like we're your friends. Thank you. Shut up. Yeah, stupid comment. No, I appreciate that. That's what we're going for. Thank you. Shut up. Yeah. Thanks. Stupid comment. No, I appreciate that. That's what, that's what we're going for. This one is from Todd.
Starting point is 00:53:48 And my question for you, Todd is why is the carpet all wet? Todd, uh, who, and he says, who are the late round players most likely to make a splash early, which can then be used as trade capital to acquire better players.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Dave Richard. Oh, wow. It's a question. Everybody wants the correct answers to acquire better players, Dave Richard? Oh, wow. It's a question everybody wants the correct answers to. Late-round players that are going to make a splash early. And then you want to trade these guys? Ezekiel Elliott or Rico Dowdle.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Right. I mean, I'm sorry. I'm only saying this because I'm looking for late rounders who I want to keep if they make a splash early. Yeah, but there's also, you know, the, the potential injury replacement kind of guys. So like Gus was one of the first names on the tip of my tongue, Jerome Ford, somebody just posted that.
Starting point is 00:54:43 That's a good one. That's it's a good one, but I don't think anybody's going to give you anything for Ford if it looks like- Yeah, but you trade him two weeks or three weeks before Chubb comes back if he's on the pup list. So you get him cheap. He does something good in week one or week two, and then you flip him right away.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And the schedule is actually conducive for that. Wouldn't Jameson Williams qualify for this? I don't know. If he gets off to a good start, I think you're going to want to keep him. But again, that's the gamble you have to take. You have to understand that there's potential flops here. So I could see a situation where either Christian Kirk or Evan Ingram, and you want to trade them with the potential of Brian Thomas,
Starting point is 00:55:22 you know, becoming a thing at the end of the season. All right. I'm going to wrap it up here. Oh know, becoming a thing at the end of the season. Um, all right, I'm going to wrap it up here. Oh, here's a good one. Either the two bills receivers. How about almost any receiver? Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:34 All right. Last one. Skylar Mojica from whatever town in Vermont, Dave chooses. Um, I don't have one right now. Sorry. Yep.
Starting point is 00:55:45 All right, Skyler. You have to move. 12-team full PPR league, three receivers. Would you keep Rashad White in round five, Zay Flowers in round seven, or Trey McBride in round 10? Oh, Brattleboro. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Of course, Brattleboro. Rashad White. What's that? What size is the team? 12-team league, three receivers, PPR. Rashad White in round five, Zay Flowers round seven, Trey McBride round 10.
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