Fantasy Football Today - Fantasy Awards; Offseason Thoughts (01/04 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: January 4, 2021

The NFL playoffs are set and we'll give our initial thoughts as we get ready for Wild Card weekend. And we've got your news and notes (3:32) as we discuss the 2021 values of Justin Jefferson and Austin Ekeler. Is Ekeler too injury prone to be a first round Fantasy pick? ... Which players gave us something to think about with their Week 17 performance? Jamey (12:50) discusses Antonio Brown and Laviska Shenault, Chris (17:05) thinks J.K. Dobbins will be a source of rankings disputes next season, Dave (23:30) chimes in on Jeff Wilson and Jerry Jeudy while Adam (27:15) wonders about T.J. Hockenson's 2021 value and has his eyes on a college superstar about to make the jump to the NFL ... It's time for our Fantasy Football Awards nominees! We'll let you vote on it on our Facebook page, but here are your nominees for MVP (33:00), Biggest Bust (36:50), Rookie of the Year (41:00), Best Waiver Wire add (41:50), Worst Waiver Wire add (47:10) and One-Week Wonder (51:25) ... Your emails at [e-mail] 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Want winning picks each morning in under 10 minutes? Subscribe to 'The Early Edge: A Daily SportsLine Betting Podcast' on Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever else you listen to podcasts. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. The off-season podcasts begin. Welcome to the show. It is Monday, January 4th. I'm Adam Azer, joined by Dave Richard, Chris Towers, and the biggest sandwich in the industry, J.B. Eisenberg.

Good to talk to you again, Jamie. I love your sandwich. I don't know how to interpret that. Yeah, that's a weird one. That was a weird one. I feel like I missed something. That's really sandwich weird. Yeah, yeah.

You did miss something. You can listen to 10 minutes of me ranting last night and replacing profanities with the word sandwich, which was Jamie's suggestion. It became fun. It's a brilliant suggestion. Yeah. So let me start by getting your quick NFL playoff thoughts. Dave Rich, I'm going to throw it to you. Just like talk to me about the playoffs. Go.

Well, the Giants aren't in it. Sorry. Okay. Chris, you can go now. No, go ahead, Dave. You can finish your stupid. And that's that Titans Ravens game. I think that's going to be a lot of fun. And even then I expect Baltimore to pull it out. I'm going to watch every game. It's going to be cool to have two triple headers. Going to be busy this weekend, honey. Sorry, we can't go out. I can't get stuff done around the house. That's the only game I got Cleveland Pittsburgh.

All right, Chris, I'll go to you. What are your playoff thoughts? Yeah, I think Cleveland Pittsburgh should be a pretty fun one. You know, there's always one game every year where some team that we don't really think has a chance to win pulls one out. I think last year it was probably the Titans twice. So maybe they'll do that again.

But, you know, Washington and Chicago both have a chance this year because somehow two 500 or below teams made the playoffs in the NFC. And a good thing we're going to see Alvin Kamara, hopefully, hopefully, because their game is on Sunday. Jamie, give me a round one upset. If you think it could happen, it would be which one? In terms of seeding or in terms of point spread? Well, I haven't looked at the point spread but let's do spread uh point spread upset that could happen would be

the browns beating the steelers that would be a four point spread new orleans by nine and a half uh baltimore baltimore three and a half interesting okay Tampa Bay minus eight Colts are the Bills minus seven and if golf play

well Walford I guess was okay but Rams Seahawks would be close four and a half points is the spread there Seattle

is favored Seattle yeah Seattle's not super inspiring right now I suppose okay well we got we got a busy show today. We got a great show for you tonight.

We've got our award nominations. Next Tuesday, we're actually going to give out the awards. Ben, Trager, I assume we're going to let people vote for these on Facebook? Yeah. They'll all be posted in the Facebook group. So we'll do our nominations today and let the fans decide. Great. Love it.

We're going to nominate for the awards today. Biggest bust, best waiver wire ad, MVP, all those things. And we're going to give you a few, a few players who gave us something to think about going into 2021 for week 17 to the news and notes. Well, in week 17, sorry. The news and notes, the Jets fired Adam Gase, Doug Peters. Yeah.

Doug Peterson said he was coaching to win. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Jacksonville fired Doug Marone. Not shocking. Mike Evans left with a leg injury, and he became the first wide receiver with 1,000 yards in each of his first seven seasons.

Good for him. And no structural damage, so hopefully we'll see him back sooner rather than later. T. Higgins left with an injury. Austin Eckler concussion. Kyler Murray left with an ankle injury. He came back. Ezekiel Elliott hurt his leg when he came back. He just wasn't healthy, though. On NFL Red Zone, they said that Sunday week 17 was the highest scoring episode ever in Red Zone history. And Chris, you said this was the highest scoring season in NFL history, right? Yeah.

The 12, 12,692 points were scored this season. The previous high was 2018 when 11,952 were scored. So more than 700 more points in 2020 than any season in NFL history. And it was the highest in points per game. Wild stuff. Fun stuff too. I wonder if that's going to correlate with fantasy points per game. We always have the top 12 average

per position. I haven't figured that out yet. It won't take me long to figure out. But I wonder if that's up across the board. It's got to be for quarterback. But I wonder if that's up across the board. I would guess quarterback and wide receiver it will be. Yeah. Yes. Right.

We did this a few weeks ago on one of the Monday shows. It's like number 12 this year versus number 12 last year. It may not have been that big of a difference, but number five probably was. The elite players were just so good this year, especially at quarterback. I just did this because I'm writing up our top 12 quarterbacks for 2021 of the early rankings that we submitted.

And there are 11 quarterbacks that average at least 24 fantasy points this season. I would imagine that's probably the most ever. That's a lot of points. Okay. Some, some impressive, impressive marks.

Lamar Jackson rushed for a thousand yards again. What? You know, it was number one in points per game with at least five starts. Oh, I know who it is. per game with at least five starts oh I know who it is if it's at least five starts I'm going to say Aaron Rodgers nope Dak Prescott by.7 points Lamar Jackson

rushed for 1,000 yards again Derek Henry rushed for 2,000 yards and Justin Jefferson set a record most receiving yards by a rookie in the Super Bowl era, and Jefferson finished as the number six wide receiver in non-PPR, number seven in PPR,

1,400 yards. Let's reflect on Justin Jefferson's incredible season. Jamie, the best rookie season ever. Now, he just beat Anquan Bolden's record, and you could argue that Bolden's best season of his career was his rookie year. But he also had an amazing career.

So, you know, how does it go wrong for Justin Jefferson? He was only, I think, 16th in targets among wide receivers. But what a year, and what does that mean going forward? Well, first off, kudos to you, because you were very high on him this offseason. So good job by you. I wish you would have stuck by it. Got lucky.

I'm not bullying you into backing off that. But he was awesome. What could go wrong for him? A better defense in Minnesota and Mike Zimmer being stubborn. You know, I think you're clearly seeing Adam Thielen's decline, you know, slowly, but decline in terms of where he was a couple years ago at his peak to where he is now. He's scoring a lot of touchdowns. That's obviously fantastic. But his overall play is not the same. But, you know, if if Mike Zimmer has his way, you know, they don't want to throw the ball a lot.

So I think that's the only thing that could potentially hinder his production continuing to be on this level or increasing. But he could still be a very serviceable, if not above average fantasy wide receiver. And he's going to be drafted as such. Is he a second round pick? No. No? No, I don't think so.

I don't think he will be. I think round three will be the soonest you'll see Justin Jefferson. It's definitely going to be a round three, round three at be the soonest you'll see Justin Jefferson. It's definitely going to be round three at the latest. There's going to be some amazing round three picks. Round four, too. We've got a treat coming next year. You'll see. We're going to do a mock draft soon.

Is he a top 12 wide receiver? Yeah. I think he should be across the board. Okay, but didn't make your top 24 i think we're revealing our top 12 maybe we'll stretch it to top 24 on tomorrow's show three times a week during the off season so that's going to be most likely it's gonna be monday tuesday thursday and the later in the week we'll we'll preview the games the upcoming games for the weekend, you know, the top 12 wide receivers did outscore the top 12 in 2019 by one point per game. The top 12 quarterbacks outscored the top 12 in 2019 by two and a half points per game.

Yeah. I just did the math on that. It's like 25.3 points per game for the top 12 quarterbacks. It's a lot. And if you look at tight end, the number three tight end is crap. Tight end was the one. Tight end was somehow they didn't get the matches. It was 2020. They got stuck in like 2007 this year. Something like that. Chris, let me ask you about Austin Eckler.

So he left with a concussion. And I know you're very high on him. You have him ahead of Derrick Henry in your PPR rankings for next season. But do you think that, like, we also saw, nobody's going to really remember this, but Kalen Balazs got a goal line touchdown in Week 17, and that happened a few weeks ago as well. Do you think that two injuries this year, including a Week 17 concussion,

might mean they are not going to trust him with a full enough, obviously not like a full workload in terms of carries, but do you think they could limit his carries enough and his touchdowns enough in turn to really hurt his value? It's entirely possible, but like I don't really, I have him projected for 189 carries and 78 catches next season. I'm pretty sure that would give him the fewest touches among anyone in the top 12 at running back by probably at least 20 or 30.

He's such an efficient playmaker. He's such an efficient rusher. He's such an efficient receiver that he can afford to have a smaller role. Maybe we'll get to the start of the 2021 season and they'll have either really talked up Justin Jackson or Kalen Balazs. But we've seen all these guys play. We've seen Joshua Kelly play.

None of them really looks like someone that you want to give extra work to to take away from Eckler. Eckler's been so good that it really is only a question of can he hold up to it? And I don't know if kind of a freak hamstring injury

in week four and then a concussion like those things happen. You know, I don't think that the Panthers are going to restrict Christian McCaffrey usage. No, there's a little there's a little dude though. Sure. He's small, but he's very stout and he hasn't really had a ton of injury concerns before this.

He had missed two games in his career before 2020. So I'm not too worried about that. Maybe I can be talked into moving him a little lower. I do have him fifth in PPR, and there's kind of a glut between him and number nine. So it's possible I could move him down. Sure. Dave is awesome. There's a whole lot of ballgame left, though. We don't know

who his coach is going to be, who his play caller is going to be, if they add another running back at any point in the next five months. So there's a lot that has to shake out here. All right, Dave, we're doing a mock draft, I think, tomorrow and every day for the rest of our lives. Is he a no-doubt-about-it

first-round pick in PPR? Austin Eckler. No, I don't have him as a first-round pick in PPR, but I do have him as a top-20 pick. Ben Schrager, are you there? Yeah, what's up? Slack's not working. I don't know what you want me to

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I'm in. in all right let's turn our attention to players who gave us something to think about going into 2021 this was based on their either late season or their week 17 performances jamie two players who yeah gave you something to think about going into 2021 one will definitely be with his team the other one i don't know yet uh the first one is LaVisca Chenault. I'm very excited, obviously, about the quarterback situation coming to Jacksonville. And I think it's pretty clear he's going to be one of their top three wide receivers. I do think there's a chance that they add another one to the mix.

But if they stick with the group that they have with DJ Chark, Colin Johnson, and LaVisca Chenault being their top three guys, then I think there's an opportunity here for him to be very successful. You saw what he could do as the lead guy with a terrible quarterback situation because Mike Lennon stinks. And so Chenault, you know, put on a show in week 17, and I hope that carries over to a strong sophomore season in 2021 with better quarterback and hopefully better coach. The other is Antonio Brown.

And I think he's kind of shown us he can still play. Wow. Thievery. You other is Antonio Brown. And I think he's kind of shown us he can still play. Wow. Thievery. You stole it from Chris. You stole one of Chris's guys. Oh, I'm sorry. That is such a sandwich move right there. Wow.

Okay. Yeah. I don't know where Antonio Brown's playing next year. I don't know how he's going to finish this year, but it's kind of been fun to watch him prove that he's going to finish this year, but it was, uh, it, it, it's, it's kind of been fun to watch, you know, him, uh, prove that he can still play in this, in this league, uh, that he's not, you know, old and washed up and that he can still be a difference maker when the targets are there for him. So, um,

curious to see what happens to him this off season. Both of these guys took advantage of, you know, Chark being out and then Evans getting hurt when they both finished. I think they both had two touchdown games in week 17. Chris, what did you want to say about Antonio Brown? Mostly the same thing. It was frustrating, I think, this season because he was added to a team that really there was no point in them adding him. It just kind of created an even bigger mess than what was already there.

But whether he returns to Tampa Bay, and my preference would be that he doesn't or, you know, whether he signs somewhere else and, you know, preferably somewhere where he's not taking away targets from two other elite wide receivers. He has more left in the tank than I would have thought and definitely more than I did think. And if he lands in the right spot, he could be an intriguing option next season. Well, he could stay in Tampa Bay and they can move on from Chris Godwin, which would be interesting if they decide to go that route.

We'll see what happens there. They could get rid of Godwin and then sign Julian Edelman when he's a free agent because the Patriots could cut him. And then it's the full-blown Brady reunion show. There you go. By the way, Chris giving me a note that Zach Ertz said, he said his time in Philly, quote, was the best experience I've ever had

and that there's nothing he would change. But it sounds as if he feels as if he's moving on. But we'll see. Maybe Antonio Brown ends up in Philly. What would you guys think about that? They need a wide receiver. They need a quarterback too. Maybe.

They have their quarterback. I think he's one of the guys that we're going to think a lot about. It's obviously Nate Sudfeld. I mean, he was playing in crunch time yesterday. The likely destination for him if he doesn't go to Tampa is probably going to be Seattle. That makes sense. Maybe Baltimore.

Well, if Seattle had the chance to get him, and if Baltimore had the chance to get him this year, what changes Tampa's probably going to be Seattle. That makes sense. Maybe Baltimore. Okay, let's talk about... Well, if Seattle had the chance to get him, and if Baltimore had the chance to get him this year, what changes that... We don't know if he wanted to get him next year. We could... He could have wanted to just go with Brady and Tampa. Sure, and maybe they weren't sure

if he was still the same player. I'm answering my own question now, but Brown's really shown in the last couple weeks that he's still pretty good, just like you said. Let's wrap up these two players. Chenault, would you guys rather if you're drafting tomorrow, which we are

and every day after, would you rather have Chenault or Michael Pittman right now? Chenault. I think I'm going to say Chenault. I feel better about the quarterback situation in 2021 in Jacksonville we don't know the quarterback for Indianapolis

exactly that's what makes the most sense get him yeah but if Rivers wants to come back and they make a playoff run Rivers is going to be the quarterback for Colts yeah probably okay moving on to we'll go to Chris's players since we already knocked out one of them,

Antonio Brown being one, and J.K. Dobbins, the other, in the last six games of the season. Well, it was seven weeks. It was six games for him. He missed one with being on the COVID list. He ended up as the number 10 running back per game. That can't be right. Yeah, I think it was.

Number 10 per game and number 11 per game in. Yeah, I think it was. Number 10 per game and number 11 per game in PPR, but basically top 10 in both. He was practically tied for 10th. In that six-game stretch for him, he was on pace for 205 carries, 1,320 yards, 19 touchdowns,

and eight catches. He averaged well over, he averaged 6.4 yards per carry down the stretch, and he scored in every game. So, Chris, what are your thoughts on J.K. Dobbins? Yeah, he does give us a lot to think about, and we will see more of him, obviously, at least one more game. But he's giving us a lot to think about right now with a strong

finish. There are going to be some vicious fights in the fantasy football world over J.K. Dobbins' 2021 value because I think there are going to be some people who, I think there are going to be some people who I think Frank Stample who you know hosts fantasy baseball today has I think he's appeared on FFT as well oh sure he posted a poll yesterday where are you drafting JK Dobbins yesterday this was right after the 87 yard touchdown run or whatever it was where are you drafting JK Dobbins in 2021? First round, second round, or I'm not going to get him. I don't think he's a first two round pick. I'm not sure

he should be a top three round pick, but I know that's going to be somewhat controversial and they're going to be a lot of people who are really, really into him. And it's easy to see why he's a really talented running back in an offense that loves to run the ball, that creates a lot of efficient opportunities for running backs. The problem is, can you really envision 1,320 rushing yards,

19 touchdowns as that pace over the last six games? That would have been good for RB13 this season because he caught three passes. Lamar Jackson's thrown 101 targets to running backs over the last two seasons. Yeah, but he also was better than RB 13

in that stretch. He was 10th right, right. I'm talking about comparing to the whole season. But yeah, sure. He was 10th. But even then is he really going to do better than 1320 yards and 19 touchdowns over full season? I don't think so. How is that only RB 10? Wow because he doesn't catch any passes. He

has three catches in 16. He's gone with PPR scoring. Yeah, he'll be higher. Him and Nick Chubb and a couple other guys will be significantly higher in non-PPR. I don't think he's going to be a top 24 pick in PPR. I don't think so either. We'll see where the hype gets. I think I wish I had Frank Stample on here.

I would berate him. I think he was being a little... Could he crack the top 24 on the idea of I want to get him before anybody else can at the end of round two, and I'm picking him again earlier enough in round three? That I could see. Maybe.

Right, right. I've got the third overall pick. I've got my stud running back in round one. I'm going to take a chance on Dobbins in round two. i know that there's going to be a good receiver left for me in round three or it's i that just gonna go i think you're gonna see him drafted around two in full pbr but i think he's gonna end up drafted around two i just think people are gonna run for running backs this year and they're gonna you're gonna see that late push in the 15 to 21 over 15 to 24 overall spots once you know you because you're going to see so many great

wide receivers like you know i think this is what kind of day was alluded to with justin jefferson there's going to be so many great wide receivers in round three so many great wide receivers in round four and you're going to get these guys especially if gus edwards leaves and they move on from mark ingram and they just bring in somebody whether it's young or uh some veteran type and you see what jk davis can do in the workload that he's getting. We don't know if the offense will evolve at all. They went from this run-centric dominant offense in 2019 to they tried to improve their passing attack in 2020.

And do they have some more of a hybrid version of that in 2021 or do they go back to what made them the number one seed in the afc in 2019 and had a more successful season i don't know what they're going to do you know i mean uh greg roman's not exactly the most uh uh flexible play caller you know you kind of see what you get with him and so i i think it's uh just kind of one of those things where if he's the lead guy with not a lot of competition i think he's going to be decent derrick henry nick chubb s where you don't have to have a lot of catches to be a great ppr running back you still be good you may not be top five good but you could still be great and derrick henry's proven to be top five good obviously but um yeah i think there's there's

obviously a lot to like about jk dobbins but the offseason is going to be telling for them yeah who that other running back is that they bring in if it's gus because mark ingram has the most carries among anyone on the last two seasons for an individual season it was 202 and even in this six game stretch dobbins was on pace for 205 they just haven't treated anyone like a true Nick Chubb, Derrick Henry, Josh Jacob. But you also saw what Mark Ingram was last year and he is a much better player at this point in his career than Mark Ingram was

last year and Ingram was awesome. Gus is a restricted free agent by the way, so he's for sure going to get a good contract for one more year and he'll be the 1B. By the way, I think we can

say Lamar Jackson's been playing some pretty good football. The Ravens offense has been kind of clicking lately. How many attempts, how many pass attempts has he averaged in his last five games? 14? No, not quite. Double that. 28.

20. Oh, okay. Although, That's surprising. That would be a little bit more than that. He didn't start one of those games. So, that was the Cleveland game?

No, was it the Cleveland game that he didn't start? I know he left that game, but I thought he started it. No, he didn't play the Pittsburgh game because of COVID. He didn't play that game, I know, but I'm just looking at his game log. It said five games, four starts. I don't know what that's all about. He technically didn't start

yesterday. I think that I think they might have done the same thing the Bills did with Josh Allen yesterday where Josh Allen technically started at quarterback or at wide receiver. And I saw some speculation that it was to like protect his win loss record

or something in case they pulled their starters and got blown out. Okay. Okay. All right. So 20 pass attempts per game for Lamar Jackson in his last five. All right, Dave, your players that caught your eye gave you something to think about going

into 2021. I'm always interested in who Kyle Shanahan's running back is. And I think Jeff Wilson has shown quite a bit over the last couple of weeks. Not necessarily the most efficient game rushing in week 17, but he's catching touchdowns and he's clearly the lead guy. They're giving him a lot of work. Mostert could be a cap casualty this year.

The team will save 3 million bucks if they let him go. I wonder if Jeff Wilson is going to be the new flavor of the month slash year in San Francisco's backfield. It's a great, they're so good. I hope they get a better quarterback. Carson Wentz.

Wentz makes sense. We're just going to say that offense though. He makes sense. Probably doesn't fit their cap sheet either. Makes sense though. That's the bigger issue. Dave makes a lot of sense there. I sense though. That's the bigger issue. Dave. Yeah.

Sam Donald makes a lot of sense there. I'd rather go. Yeah, he does. He definitely does. Dave, Jeff Wilson and Jerry Judy. I,

you know, just the fact that he had that long touchdown, there were flashes of greatness from him this year and there were flashes of absolute dog sandwich. So I think that there's, I think he's got room to really improve. I don't know who his quarterback is going to be next year, but I still view him as a future number one fantasy football receiver.

I mean, he, he had one big play. Everybody's gone Gaga over him. He's had such a bad rookie year. I'm not really disagreeing but i just right it was a terrible rookie yeah really because the expectations were so high like he was in the same breath as cd lamb and then both those guys got overshadowed by jefferson and jefferson in

his own right was a great prospect too but judy just there's still going to be evidence that we can highlight of him just running phenomenal routes. It's the hands. I can't get over the hands. And the quarterback, too. And I wonder if he just wasn't quite feeling Drew Locke. You know what I'm saying? Maybe he was a little skittish catching passes from Locke,

and that was why. This is me speculating. I'm so excited about that offense next year. I think it's going to be so much fun. Locke has the, the potential not to the same height because I don't think he's going to get there, but to be like how Josh Allen was where you see progression year one to year

two. I hope there's a bigger leap year two to year three, but you think about what's around him and Noah fan, hopefully continues to get better. Judy continues to get better. KJ Hamler is the speed threat. Tim Patrick is the fourth receiver, which I think is pretty impressive as the four.

They're going to get Juwan James back at the right tackle after he opted out. Garrett Bowles had an amazing season at left tackle. The interior of the line is all young. And so these guys all have the chance to grow together. You got to say Corlin Sutton here. Yeah. Sutton's coming here. Cortland Sutton. Sutton's coming back too. Cortland Sutton.

I don't think you... Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Excuse me, Cortland Sutton. I guess I kind of overlooked. You alluded to him. You said Patrick was the fourth receiver, but he never actually said Sutton. So let's just, yeah, just to get that out there.

Yeah, it's an exciting offense that has a chance to be special, but Drew's got to catch the ball. I mean, Dave's right. He's always open. I mean, everybody keeps raving about his route running. He almost dropped a wide-open two-point conversion, too. It tipped up in the air and landed in his lap.

Locke has to be better, but, you know, Judy gives them – they have the potential to have two of the best wide receivers – one of the best wide receiver tandems in the NFL, if those two guys perform and progress as they have the potential to. Okay, so LaVisca Chenault or Jerry Judy next year?

Judy. Judy's ceiling is much higher. Yeah. I'm going to give you my two players. What's that? Wouldn't mind getting both of them. All right. I'm going to give you my two players real quick and give me your thoughts. TJ Hawkinson. By the way, Anthony Williams has been fired.

Oh. Yep. That's okay. TJ Hawkinson. Just a little throwaway line here. Giving me a lot to think about as finishing as a top five tight end, but really not such great numbers. I mean, 723 yards, six touchdowns.

Did almost all of it without Kenny Galladay, although in four games that Galladay played and finished, he did have three touchdowns, but he had just 22 targets in those four games. So I just think it was so unfortunate. He had a really good year, but he was terrible for fantasy managers down the stretch. Last three games, nine catches for 66 yards combined on 13 targets so you know how high are we going to be dave on tj hawkinson going into 2021 get eric b enemy to detroit please get him to detroit so tj hawkinson can be a flipping superstar in fantasy. That's, that's, I mean, look, that's,

that's the, that's what, that's the Adam Gase trick. I mean, you guy gets, gets Peyton Manning and Julius Thomas. And then you think, and then you think that that's going to,

I'm just saying fairness, just because Travis Kelsey was great. It doesn't mean TJ Hawkinson would, but that's a system that he's running that would lean on a tight end and make a tight end a part of the offense. Yeah. Matt Nagy's been trying to do it in Chicago ever since he got there.

Are you high on TJ Hawkinson? Who's his coach? Who's his play caller? You're drafting tomorrow. Are you high on TJ Hawkinson? No, not as high as I could be. He's a top 12 tight end. Everybody's going to draft him as a number one guy. I think the biggest thing is just they need to get back

to throwing the ball down the field. That's what they did in 2019 that made Matt Stafford have such a great half season. And it made us think that there was more upside in that offense than there ended up being. Because Stafford got back to throwing a lot more short and intermediate routes and Hawkinson, the guy who can make plays down the field.

And they, they just haven't used that in his skillset yet. It's also, you're going to lose Marvin Jones. He's a free agent. I'm sure he's gone. It's Kenny Galladay back. You know,

there there's a lot that could change with this. Yeah. Right. And, and, you know, I kind of gave the critical approach to it. He faltered down the stretch, but he also had a really good year. He's a second year guy. Right. And I kind of gave the critical approach to it. He faltered down the stretch.

But he also had a really good year. He's a second-year guy. He's a top 10. He was a first-round pick. I don't remember what he was, around 11th or something. And he was top 10. Eight. Eight, yeah.

Once you get past the four tight ends, I'm going to assume Mark Andrews is still going to be drafted fourth. Then you start to look at who's the next best guy. And he's in that conversation for next best guy. We have to see what happens. Coach, surrounding weapons, all those things. But he's absolutely in that conversation. They could lose their quarterback.

Matthew Stafford might not be back in Detroit. I mean, that will change everything for him. Okay, my other guy kind of cheated here, went off the board. But I don't know that I was more impressed with anybody this past week than Devontae Smith. Alabama wide receiver. Player of the year in college. Holy cow. He is

incredible. I can't wait for him to be in the NFL. I think he should be, as of right now, I'm going to say it, the number one pick in Dynasty Leagues. He might be. There's a lot of conversations is is he better than jamar chase yeah goodness it's going to be fun to talk about those guys and and think about it that

if you're just comparing schools the two alabama receivers and the alabama quarterback have not performed very well as rookies the lsu receiver who was not considered the best one has been an absolute monster and the lsu quarterback wasn't so bad either. Right. So, you know, a lot of people are going to look at that and make those comparisons. But yeah, Adam, I'm with you. I think it's going to be fun to see if the Dolphins commit to Tua. And now that they're picking third, one of these two guys make a ton of sense for them

if they don't go in the trenches. So if they go skilled player, Devante Smith or Jamar Chase make a ton of sense for Miami because they need something to help Tua. And you would assume based on the Alabama connection, they probably go Smith. I would say they should definitely be considering a quarterback. I think a lot of people would. And I don't know what to make of Justin Fields. I'm really interested to hear. Let's have Emery Hunt come on.

He's the man. Because Fields has looked so... He did not look good in the Big Ten Championship game, but oh my God, he was perfect last weekend. He was incredible. He was probably better than Devontae Smith. Those two guys were amazing. All right, we're going to take a break.

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All right, let's rock and roll here. So each of us had to come up with at least two nominees for each category, and we'll narrow it down. Ben, what are we going to settle on, a top four at each? Yeah, we'll go top four. Okay, fantasy MVP. Jamie, why don't you start? Who are your nominees for fantasy MVP?

Aaron Rodgers and James Robinson. Rodgers being drafted near the bottom of the top 12 or in a lot of cases outside the top 12 and just performing the way that he did. I obviously thought he was going to have a bad season. I don't think I was alone in that regard, but I'll speak for myself that I didn't expect him to play like this. I didn't think he'd play like this ever again.

And what he was able to accomplish, what he was able to accomplish with Devontae Adams, who can make cases of fantasy MVP as well, is just absolutely remarkable. He is the NFL MVP as well. It's just absolutely remarkable. He is the NFL MVP as well. And then James Robinson, you know, again, I think we were one of the first people in the industry podcasts. You know, it's a credit to Pete Prisco.

And I'll go back to my friend, Mark Long, who covers the Jaguars for Associated Press. The two of them very much from before Leonard Fournette was released, immediately after Leonard Fournette was released. This is the guy you got to go get. And, you know, I hope we helped a lot of people in that regard by telling you to draft James Robinson. And he was special for the majority of his rookie campaign. Okay. Did anybody have, I also had Aaron Rodgers. I did not have James Robinson as

one of my two nominees. Did anybody have different names? I have four names. Wow. Extra credit. Rodgers and Robinson were two of them. The other two were Bills players. Josh Allen and Dawson Knox. Stefan Diggs.

Allen and Diggs, I think they deserve to be nominated I don't think they're going to win but they were both amazing values on draft day not quite as good as Rogers and Robinson but very good okay Chris David Montgomery

RB4 for the season absolute stud in the playoffs. If you had him on your team and you made the championship, you almost certainly won because of how good he was. He was the 80th pick in CBS Fantasy Leagues coming into the season. He was like RB30 or something. What was that? He was hurt going into the season. Yeah, he was hurt before.

Yeah, he was hurt in week one. I don't think he played week one, did he? But he went behind Leonard Fournette, Cam Akers, Devin Singletary, J.K. Dobbins, Tariq Cohen. He was better than all of them by a wide margin. So, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say David Montgomery helped a lot of people. Did you have another?

When you're talking about value, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. He did play week one. Did you have another nominee or that was your different one? James Robinson. James Robinson. Okay. I had Waller round six pick scored 45 more points than tight end three and non PPR

scored 104 more points than tight end three and PPR 104. That's amazing and good value on Waller. And also he was really good in the fantasy postseason scored 1430 and 16 PPR fantasy points. The reason why I didn't go with James Robinson guys is because he missed week 16.

So I hate to penalize him too much, but that's why he didn't make my top two. Um, but I guess he should definitely be in our top four. All right. So Aaron Rogers and James Robinson are definitely in, then let's pick two more between Waller Allen Diggs and Montgomery Schrager you want to you want to kind of have the final say here

yeah let's go one quarterback let's make Rodgers the quarterback and I like two quarterbacks and I think Montgomery is a good case okay so that's James Robinson robinson aaron rogers darren waller and david montgomery all right i like it uh dave i'm gonna throw to you first here biggest bus two of your nominees so i had a hard time coming up with the biggest bus who played 16 games i know that injury shouldn't be taken into account but i'm i'm putting it in there and to that regard i think michael thomas is the biggest bus because when he did play, he had a couple of great games. He didn't score a touchdown. There were games where he didn't get the target volume early in the year

where he didn't get the target volume that we thought he was going to get. And then you had to wait for him to come back, not once, but twice. And it was frustrating to have him. He was a first round pick in a lot of leagues. He was inside the top five. He he's my biggest candidate to be a biggest bust even though i'm dinging him for for missing time i know that's not the other thing to do and then the other one's pretty obvious though half that time too i know and so it was problematic for people who counted on him to be that superstar target getter that he was the past two years ezekiel elliott is the other one there were people that were fed up with him they weren't sure when

to start him week 16 was one of those times where no one was sure what to do with Ezekiel Elliott, and then he ended up having a great game. Okay. I thought about Ezekiel. He was just so good for the first five weeks of the season that I couldn't quite put him there. I understand.

All right, Chris, who were your top two biggest busts? Le'Veon Bell and Todd Gurley were top 32 picks this season in CBS Fantasy Leagues. Gurley was decent for like nine weeks. And those are two guys who didn't get hurt. They were just, you know, Gurley, especially down the stretch. If you had him in your lineup after, I think, week 10, he combined for like 16 points from week 10 to week 6. Maybe 22. It was a really low number, and he only missed one of those games.

And then, obviously, Le'Veon Bell just... Yes, he got hurt, but once he landed with the Chiefs, there was some hope that maybe it would revitalize him. He was a non-factor, even when we thought he would be good. I had Le'Veon Bell as well. I had Clyde Edwards-Ziller. I think he's the biggest bust. He's on my list.

Yeah, and you know what? The biggest reason he was the Week 13 game when he didn't play. And it was Sunday night and you probably started him because he got the report that he was going to play

and he fooled you and he screwed you like really bad. Just did not play. So I had Bell and Edward Ziller. Chris had Bell and Gurley. Dave had Thomas and Elliott. Jamie, who are your biggest busts? Well, Lamar Jackson.

I mean, he was not a good fantasy quarterback for the majority of the season based on where he was drafted as the number one guy as a first round pick, which we told you could be the potential of him faltering. And don't take quarterback in round one. So he's the easiest choice to me. And then Ezekiel Elliott was the second one guy as a first round pick, which we told you could be the potential of him faltering and don't take quarterback in round one. So he's the easiest choice to me. And then Ezekiel, it was the second one. It is a little unfair to put it all on him because of his quarterback going down in week five and his offensive line falling apart. But I think Dave said it best.

You know, a lot of people were still trusting him and he kept letting us down and other quarterback, other running backs have had things around them go poorly and still performed a little bit more adequately than what Zeke was, but based on where his draft capital started and the way that he finished, it was a disappointing season for him. So those are my two choices.

And he was picked ahead of Thomas. He was picked ahead of Edwards. He entered last week in as RB 15 in PPR points per game. And I just, I feel like there were fantasy managers who were starting him just because, well, I took him with my first pick. I got to keep him in my lineup, right? And then there were people who just, like I said, week 16, you didn't know what to do

because he was coming off a game that he missed and Tony Pollard was on fire. I just think he was a headache. He was a problem. For sure. Yeah, but he was a headache. He was a problem. For sure. Yeah, but he was a lot better than Clyde Edwards-Elair. And they're kind of the same, right?

Because Edwards-Elair got off to a really good start. There were definitely weeks where you didn't know what to do with Edwards-Elair. It was good. It wasn't amazing because he only scored

one touchdown, I think, in those first six games. So in the first six games before Le'Veon Bell, Clyde Edwards-Ziller was 18th in non-PPR, 17th in PPR per game. Overall, he was better than that. He was 12th.

But per game, he was like 18th. All right, so Ben, I think we got to have Zeke on there. And I think we probably got to have Le'Veon Bell on there. I think you got to have Edwards-Ziller. It sounds like we got to have Clyde Edwards-on Bell on there. I think you got to have Edward Ziller. It sounds like we got to have Clyde Edward Ziller on there. So who's our fourth? Yeah, it comes down to Gurley, Michael Thomas, and Lamar Jackson. I think Lamar played too well down the stretch,

and Michael Thomas had too many excuses. So we'll go Gurley. Okay, I like that. Rookie of the year. If we're looking for a top, I think we can just kind of... Chris pointed out on FFT in five, if your first name started with a top, I think we can just kind of change. Chris pointed out on FFT in five. If your first name started with a J, you're one of the rookies of the year.

James Robinson, Justin Herbert, Justin Jefferson, Jonathan Taylor. Cool? I'm not going to argue. Yeah, that's got to be the list. We'll let the people vote on it. And you could throw in J.K. Dobbins as an honorable name. I love it. That's really good. Who?

Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow? This is kind of weird. Six J's. How about that? All right. Best and worst waiver wire pickup were tough. Chris, I'll give you the first word.

Best waiver wire pickup. Who are your nominees? If your name started with a J and you were a rookie, you were one of the best waiver wire pickups in 2020. I have Justin Herbert and James Robinson. All right. Robinson, I don't think I want on there. It's iffy. He was 69% rostered after week

one. Going into week one, I looked up Jamie's waiver wire column. He was 9% owned or rostered as of Sunday of heading into week one. However, like 45% of CBS fantasy drafts happened between Monday and Thursday. So he was probably closer to like 50 to 60% rostered by kickoff.

This is one where it's us versus the world, because I think for our leagues, he was drafted in that final stretch of game, final stretch of days before the season started. We did see a lot of James Robinson save me my fantasy season from other sites. I will tell you, but I looked

at my notes from week one waiver wire, I guess like going into week two, and he was 69% rostered. So I'll let you guys decide. Is James Robinson... I don't think for us it qualifies. But I do think for other sites, they were chasing James Robinson. He could win MVP and he could win Rookie of the Year.

So we can keep him out of FlavorWire. But yeah, I think Jamie is right. I think he was around 50% on other sites after week one. Okay. Yeah, we don't want to... The awards would be sponsored by James Robinson, I think, if we gave him too many. All right, so I'm sorry.

You said James Robinson and Justin Herbert. Okay. Should we do Biggest Bust for 2021, James Robinson? Dave, who are your nominees for Best Waver Wire Pickup? Those were my first two names, but I have like eight names. The next two, I'll only give two. Miles Gaskin and mike davis

davis saved people man like as the replacement for christian mccaffrey i know that there were several weeks toward the end of the season basically had two halves of the year where the first half he was amazing he was a must-start fantasy running back and then the second half not quite as good but he absolutely filled in a gap if. If you had Christian McCaffrey or if you had Saquon Barkley, or if you just needed a running back in general and miles Gaskin, man, like finish strong was the lead guy for the dolphins when he played and had some really good numbers and was,

I think pretty consistent. I forgot about him. That's a good call. He was a must start when he played. Yeah, pretty much. Okay. That was one of the handful of was a must-start when he played. Yeah, pretty much. That was one of a handful of guys that we would have been on top of if there were

preseason games. Jamie, Mike Davis, Miles, did you have any other names? We got Gaskin, Davis. I'll give my names after everybody else, just in case. I went for two guys that helped you in the playoffs, more specifically in Week 16, which were Jeff Wilson and Jalen Hurts.

I was looking at the email from Frank Oliarchik about the players that were started in most championship games. And those two guys were in the top 15, I believe. And so Hurts, while he did not have a great Week 16, I'm sure he helped a lot of people in the semifinals with his 43-point performance when we said start him. And then even though he didn't have a monster game, he still was, at least for me, helping me win a couple championships. helped a lot of people in the semifinals with his 43-point performance when we said to start him. And then even though he didn't have a monster game, he still was, at least for me, he helped me win a couple championships because he was a starting quarterback, but also Jeff Wilson. Conversely enough, I appreciate Dave dropping Jeff Wilson

in our championship round because he didn't play him and I was able to beat him without Jeff Wilson on his roster. It's true. Yeah, I had Wilson. But that was done by design. These are good names. I don't have a good excuse. Tough calls.

We can throw out some more. I mean, well, doesn't have to be Justin Jefferson. I think he was like 60% to 70% drafted. Okay, but he was 39% rostered after his week three game. Yeah, you have a few guys that fall into a weird category of Justin Jefferson, Cam Akers, guys that were drafted and dropped that were picked up

on. It's just the nature of how it unfolds for some of these guys, especially younger players. So should we not include them for the sake of this argument? No, I think you can include them, but I don't think they'll win. Justin Jefferson, top seven wide receiver, got off the waiver wire. I think he wins.

Robbie Anderson, I had. Robert Tunyon, Logan Thomas. T. Higgins, Chase Claypool. Fulgham. What do we got, Ben? What do you think? Do you want a couple more? Yeah.

Brandon Ayuk. I didn't hear his name. Corey Davis. I didn't hear his name. That Davis. I didn't hear his name. That's a good one. I went back and looked at our notes. He was 10% rostered after week one. It's a really good one.

Ben, what do you think? This is hard. This is really hard. This is tough. I think Mike Davis and Gaskin are locks. And since we're including Justin Jefferson, he's a lock too. But Justin Herbert, Jeff Wilson, Brandon Ayuk.

Where do we fall on those three? Herbert's got to be in there. Yeah, I think Herbert, Jeff Wilson, Brandon Ayuk, where do we fall on those three? Herbert's got to be in there. I think Herbert's got to be there. Alright, we got it. Herbert, Davis, Gaskin, and Jefferson. Okay. How about this for Mike Davis to help his case?

Combine him and Christian McCaffrey's production because they basically played 15 games total. 298.8 PBR points. That was good for fourth among running backs. All right. That's great. The waiver wire, the worst waiver wire pickup.

I found this to be very challenging. I got my guy. All right. Go ahead. Who you got? Naheem Hines. That's a good one. We were crazy about him after week one.

He stunk after week one. And then he came back and he had two touchdowns in week eight then he stunk in week nine then he came back in week 10 with a big game then he stunk after that three different times this year he made the waiver wire list and he was either first or second in week one, and he just got tailored. He got ran over by the J train over in Indianapolis. Okay, that one's definitely got to make the list. Did you have two or just times? I've got a bunch, but I'll wait till the end to give the rest. Chris.

I'm going with week 10 Duke Johnson when he started for David Johnson and had 54 rushing yards and no catches or touchdowns. And Alexander Madison, Alexander Madison chalk week, week six. This is what we've been waiting for. Alexander Madison. We told you a good one.

He's a must start guy. If he ever gets the opportunity, he had 26 rushing yards and four receiving yards on one catch with no touchdowns. Yeah. Miserable game. Great call there. I stole that one from you. I went with no touchdowns. Yeah, miserable game. Great call there. I stole that one from you. I went with him and I couldn't think of anyone. So I went with Scotty

Miller in week five. He was on my list. Yeah, he was 30% rostered. He was only 8% started. So I don't think he can quite make it, but he had no catches. He had 83 yards and a touchdown the week before. No Chris Godwin in that game. Thursday night game. I remember starting Thursday night game. Starting Scotty Miller Chris Godwin in that game. Thursday night game. I remember starting Scotty Miller.

Zero targets in that game. Jamie, worst waiver wire pickups? I went with Duke Johnson in week 10 also. And then Jordan Wilkins after his week 8 game. That was at the point where Jonathan Taylor was struggling. We didn't know what was going to happen there. And Wilkins had the 20 carry performance against Detroit. It was also the same game.

Nine minds had the two touchdowns. And so it was okay. Maybe we'll get Wilkins is taking over not to start him, but to pick him up. And he was just a joke afterwards. Okay. This, this is good stuff here.

You want a few more? Yeah. Benny Snell after week one, because James Connor wasn't getting a whole lot of work. And that was, I think Benny Snell and Iggy Mines were the two names that led Jamie's column going into week two. Probably so. Right. So Conner got hurt in week one, but then he made it

back for week two, right? I think. Yeah. Yeah. And then Carlos Hyde after week seven. He was this big time performer, but we weren't sure if he was going to play. He was inactive the next three games after we were talking about him as, yeah, he could be someone to pick up at running back,

lead the Seahawks run game. I think Carson was beat up at that time. And one that I particularly relish is Jameis Winston. Oh yeah. The Tuesday after drew breeze got hurt. He had a punctured lung and fractured ribs. It's going to be Jameis Winston. Got to be the guy. Got the matchup against

Atlanta. He didn't even start. That's a great call. Madison has to be on there. I'm pretty convinced that I thought Madison was too rostered. Do we know what the percentage was?

I can tell you. I'm pretty sure he was the lead. Yeah. Let me see. Yeah, he might have been under 65% at that point. Okay. Schrager, what do we got? Who's your top four here?

Hines, Madison, Duke Johnson, and Jameis Winston. I can't believe we all forgot about him, Dave. That was a great call. Those four, if Madison qualifies. Otherwise, maybe Wilkins? I'm going to tell you right now. A lot of guys that I did not want. Madison

on that Tuesday. Madison was 72%. Oh, he was 72%. Oh, no. Okay, we have to get rid of him. Yeah. We have to get rid of him. Wilkins or Benny Snell? No. Okay, we have to get rid of them. Yeah. We have to get rid of them. All right, Ben Wilkins or Benny Snell? No, Hines? Hines is a lot. Hines made it. Okay. All right, I wasn't sure.

I would say Snell, that week one storyline was big. Yeah, I mean, that was like the... Because that was the first game of the season, right? That was the Island game, and so the... Yeah, one of the two. That was the two Monday Night Games that night. Yeah, the big conversation was, wow, Benny Snell looks a Yeah, one of the two. That was the two Monday Night Games, wasn't it? Yeah, the big conversation was, wow, Benny Snell looks a lot better

than James Conner. He's coming for that job. All right. I like it. One week performance of the year. Our final category... I have two that... These have to be the two, but I'll just... I'll let you guys go instead. Jamie... I bet we have the same two. Okay. All right. Jamie, I'll let you start

though. Jamie, what are your two? One week performance. You mentioned them as a bust. It was Clyde O'Reilly week one. We thought, Jamie, I bet we have the same too. Okay. All right, Jamie, I'll let you start though. Jamie, what are your two? One week? You mentioned him as a bust. It was Clyde O'Reilly week one. We thought, okay, this is the start of the big season coming. And he had 19 fantasy points in that game. He looked like he was going to be the second coming of Jamal Charles and Damian Williams in his peak and

Christian Akoye and every great Chiefs running back we've ever seen. Every great Andy Reid running back we've ever seen. It looked like it was the start of something special and it was basically downhill from there. What else? I was just looking at this and it kind of tied into the waiver wire stuff because we thought he was going to be

somebody that could help you. It was Marcus Mario's 27 points in week 15 when he looked like he was going to be a potential difference maker in the playoffs and didn't even play the next week. Okay. Dave, you think you got the same ones that I have? Didn't Alvin Kamara have six touchdowns in Week 16? So I think Jamie and I read this differently than you two. Oh, like one-hit wonder performance?

Yeah, I think Jamie and I both looked at it as one-hit wonder. Yeah. Well, Ben, what's the ruling? What's the category? That's what we did last year, actually. One hit wonder. So let's pivot to that. Oh, crap. I have nothing for that. Yeah, neither do I. I've got one.

I like the other category better. We're celebrating. We just go top point scorer. No, because Alvin Kamara scoring six touchdowns in your championship week is poetic. That's what's going to win. It should win. And also, it's Alvin Kamara. But that's going to win, Adam. Right, but it should win. That's what's going to win. It should win.

And also, it's Alvin Kamara. Like, of course, he had a huge game. All right. Okay, fine. So one hit wonder of the year? I'll help you out, Adam. Guy who you started for probably nine straight weeks after a giant performance at wide receiver?

Oh, Tyler Lockett? Yep. Yeah. Yeah, he was. So, Dave, what was the other one you had? Tyreek Hill? Yeah. At Tampa Bay?

Yeah, that was amazing going up against Carlton Davis and smoking him for 200 yards in the first quarter. But okay. Okay. We'll do it the other way. So, Clyde Edwards,

you were there in week one. Mariota. Tyler Lockett. Chris, what were your nominees? Sorry, I just got distracted by the fact that Tyler Lockett. Chris, what were your nominees? Sorry, I just got distracted by the fact that Tyler Lockett finished as wide receiver eight. Yeah, big game in week 17. This is the difference between total scoring

and week-to-week consistency. Right, right, right. Even PPR points per game, he was 12th. Well, when you throw a 50 and a 30, that's shocking. Right, right, right. But he had almost 100 catches, right? He set a Seahawks record for catches.

He was good. He had 100 catches. Like, that is shocking to me. You don't expect that from Tyler Lockett. And that is fifth most in the NFL, tied with Keenan Allen. All right, sorry. Now, back to it, Chris. What were your nominees for this category?

Richie James in week nine. Nine catches, 184 yards and a touchdown 33.4 PPR points. And Tony Pollard, uh, week 14, uh, 69 rushing yards,

two touchdowns, six catches, 63 yards, 31.2 PPR points. Was that 14 or 15? I think it was week 15. Week 15. You're right.

It was 30 fantasy points in PPR. I can't argue with any of these. I don't think I can top them off the top of my head. I don't think I can top them either, but Joe Burrow in that game against Cleveland, it was week seven. I think we liked him going into that game. What about Baker in that game against Cincinnati?

Yeah, that's a good point. I was going to say Beckham against Cleveland, against Dallas was great. Oh, yeah. I don't know if you thought about this one. Joe Mixon was having such a bad year facing a Jaguars run defense that we were like, they have a really good run defense.

And then he went off that week. That's a great one. Joe Mixon. All right. Are we good here we you got enough what about any week one that wasn't that good it wasn't quite good enough mixon's a really good call because every time i sort by pbr points per game he's 10th yeah and it was really he had one good game he was not like he he had 15 PBR points in one other game, but it was 42

in that game and like 90 in the 60 in the rest of them. He's got a chance to bounce back in such a huge way. This is why you never sit your studs. How many times do we hear that after that? I think for next year, you guys should call this the Jonah Gray category.

Yes, that would that would have helped. All right, Ben, what do we got here? What are our top four? All right, top three is a lock. Tyler Lockett, OBJ, and Mixon. The fourth spot, do we go Clyde week one or Tony Pollard week 15? Pollard.

I don't know that you need Beckham on there. People picked up and used Pollard that week and he came through. Yeah. Week 16 was kind of a fooled you performance too. And it was that one run at the end, the 40-yard touchdown run. He was more or less kept in check.

Okay. That's good stuff. Thank you, guys. Go vote on our Facebook page. Shouldn't we have Taysom Hill somewhere in Best Way Water Pickup too? He's fine. Yeah. He was a top three quarterback while he started.

Right. Yeah. He was pretty damn good. We have Herbert, Davis, Gaskin, Jefferson. I don't think about Gaskin. He missed three games. He missed five games in the middle of the season that were pretty crucial. Yeah.

I mean, he basically just came back for the championship. Right. Like the thing about like Gaskin was good when he played, but you had three weeks with the knee injury on IR and then two weeks with COVID. And there were so many questions about playing in week 16. I wonder what his start percentage was in the championship round. He had nine games with

10 or more non-PPR fantasy points. I think his track record is better than Taysom Hill's. Chris, I don't think... How could Taysom Hill have been a top three quarterback? He wasn't that good. Maybe he was top five. I was just saying things, Adam. Well, you can't just say that. This is an award show.

That's like when people say that movie that movie that's so mediocre that one best picture is actually good what was the name of that movie chris crash terminator 2 now the recent one about the parasite oh my god you didn't like oh you're you're just wrong on that it's a fine you're just wrong it's fine you know it was tas. It was Taysom Hill. It wasn't Aaron Rodgers. The other thing about Taysom Hill, too, is on certain sites for Taysom Hill, he was a tight end that week. That was a big

deal. He did sort of break fantasy football. He's on there. He's over Gaskin. Shouldn't he belong in the one week performance category instead of the waiver? He had four weeks. Four weeks in a row. I just think Gaskin was great, but he

let you down for five really important weeks. I completely disagree. And nobody started him really the first two. Right. He wasn't started until about week five or six. It's funny because we could easily get five names in there,

but we're just not doing it. But I think Taysom Hill is a good call. I think he's too important a part of the 2020 storyline to leave off this award show. And Myles Gaskin isn't. There's no comparison. No, I don't think so. There's absolutely a comparison

about what was more important and what was more discussed. What was more impactful. Running back that you found off the waiver wire that in nine weeks or Taysom Hill who wasn't even on our radar. Dave has a point. There were four games of him. And he wasn't even dominant when he was doing it.

He was good. It is worth pointing out. Taysom Hill wasn't a waiver wire pickup if you have just one run on Tuesday because nobody picked him up on Tuesday. I'm not denying that he wasn't a good pickup, but he's not one of the top four pickups of the year. I mean, Dave has a point.

Gaskin definitely had a bigger fantasy impact. It doesn't matter. I mean, we named so many guys that were important for fantasy. We're talking about something that people were excited about. All right, I'm making an executive decision. How is that not part of the... I'm making an executive decision, Ben.

Five players for that category. We'll go five. Let's do it. All right. All right. We're going to finish the show with your emails. Let's see who gets more votes between Hill and Gaskin. Yeah, this is going to be fun.

Fantasyfootball at CBSi.com. This one's from Reed. Let's do these quickly, guys. I was offered Alvin Kamara for DeAndre Swift and pick 110 in Dynasty. Do I take it? Or 1.10, however you want to say it. 10th pick of the first round. So you give up Swift in the 10th pick.

You get Kamara. Do you do it? Easy. Yeah. Yes. This is from Chris. Dear Jimmy, Nick, CJ, and Josh. 49ers quarterbacks.

12-team half PPR. Keep two. McCaffrey, Metcalf, Eckler, Kittle. Pick two. Oh. McCaffrey, Metcalf. Really? I have

met Frank fourth out of this group Caffrey's easy

McCaffrey's easy call I could see myself pivoting to Eckler if I like how his

situation shakes out during the offseason but if I'm making the decision right now it's my calf what I really

like about picking Eckler or Kittle frankly is just that if you pick Eckler and McCaffrey, you just don't have to worry about running back for a while. And that's kind of how I want to draft this year. I want like two running backs in my first three picks,

and then I just don't want to think about it. You want to set it and forget it. Yeah. All right, Ryan from a city in southeastern Ontario. Dave, you're familiar with the area. Pugsville. Dear Mac, Charlie, and Dave, you're familiar with the area. Pugsville. Dear Mac, Charlie, and Dennis. It's always sandwiched in Philadelphia.

12-team, 5-keeper league. How are you not laughing at that? Now you're hating on the TV show. What's next? You're going to say Rocky is a terrible film series? I might. I hate them so much right now. Are you ever going to eat a cheesesteak again?

It's going to take a while for me to get over this. Is the Liberty Bell overrated? Do you know that Peterson said he was going to play Sudfeld in the game? I didn't know that at the time. I thought what he said was that if they had the right situation for him. That was the right situation for him.

Yeah, right. It's like you have to evaluate Jalen Hurts there. That was the right situation for him. Yeah, right. It's like, you have to evaluate Jalen Hurts there. That's what you have to do. You have to see how he does in the fourth quarter of a three-point game against a good defense against your divisional rival. Why? Why? Because he's going to be your quarterback next year. That's why. If you were going to evaluate

Sudfeld, you would start Sudfeld for the game. I think they did not. I'm sorry to say this about Sudfeld, but they didn't need to evaluate him. Okay. Yeah. All right. Keep five of these guys. Dalvin Cook in the first, Hopkins in the second, Metcalf in the third,

A.J. Brown in the fourth, Mixon in the fifth, Josh Allen in the sixth, Ronald Jones in the seventh, Miles Gaskin and Cortland Sutton in the 16th round. Okay, not easy here. Let's say that A.J. Brown in the fourth is a yes. Yeah. Non-PPR. Mixon in the fifth. We'll come back to that.

Dalvin Cook in the first. I think I'd keep the first four. Hopkins in the second. Metcalf in the third. How do you throw back Josh Allen? He's keeping four? Yep. How about Allen, Dalvin, and... Don't forget about Gaskin and Sutton in the 16th round.

Yeah, I was going to say, Gaskin, I don't know if he's a starter next year. If he's a starter next year, that's easy. But we don't know. But we know Sutton will be. Right. So it's between those two, depending on when he has to make the decision. I think it's Sutton. From Tom, I traded James Robinson and Devin Singletary

and a second round pick for Austin Eckler, Jalen Rager, and a fourth round pick in a PPR Dynasty League. Was this a good move? Gave up James Robinson, Singletary, and a second round pick for Eckler, Rager, and a fourth round pick. PPR. Dynasty. Feels like a wash.

I like it. I think I like it i think i like it the most likely outcome is eckler's the only impact player among that not james robinson i guess yeah rager could be too like i'm not ready to write off rager after this year right but we just robinson's going to be the most popular bus candidate across the board because he came out of nowhere and his situation's definitely going to change in Jacksonville. Yeah, but it could change for the better, though. It could be a lot better. Do you see him being the guy for three-plus years there?

All I know is if more teams did what the Eagles did last night, we'd have ping-p pong balls and a lottery system. It was disgusting. It was a disgrace to sports. Why? Don't do that. You don't quit the game in the third quarter, in the fourth quarter.

You don't quit. Four other teams did that yesterday. Who? But just look at the bill. Buffalo, Pittsburgh. No, no, no. They basically did it for that yesterday. Who? But just look at the bill. Wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just look at the bill. Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Kansas City.

Oh, my God. No, you can't possibly be. And they put in Matt Barkley. And Barkley was playing very well. Hold on, hold on. You can't be that dumb to put the teams that were resting their starters for playoff games the following week. Oh, yes, I can be that dumb.

You can't be that dumb. Don't ever underestimate how dumb I can be. I could necessarily play better because the backup could have played better. The backup, Nate Sudfeld, was not going to play better than Jalen Hurts. There's no chance. And Matt Barkley wasn't going to play better than Josh Allen, but he played just as well. It doesn't matter.

It does not matter. What do you mean it doesn't matter? Matt Barkley is a veteran quarterback. No, there was no reason to do that. Because your team lost out in the playoffs. No, there was no reason to do that. And go cry somewhere else. It's not a bad decision. No, it was no reason to do that. Because your team lost out in the playoffs. No, there was no reason to do that. It's not a bad decision. No, it was a terrible decision.

The Jets kept Adam Gase as their coach for 16 games. It was a terrible decision. And it's almost unanimous across the sports industry. You're just being devil's advocate right now, Jamie. Actually, you're just being an antagonist. It was a disgraceful decision and he quit on his team. They should quit on him. He deserves to be quit on

by his players. They should quit on the front office because it did come from the top. No, I'm talking higher than the front office. Whatever. They probably made Peterson do it. The Jaguars benched their best quarterback

for most of the second half of the season. But they did it in week 17 also. Yeah, they did. Gardner Minshew was healthy and available and they started

Mike Glenn. I know, I know, but what I'm saying is they could have gone back to Minshew in week 17 when they didn't have anything to lose,

but they didn't. So they just don't like Minshew as much as we like Minshew. That's pretty obvious to me. Oh, that's very obvious. Right. So like I saw, I was like, OK, they really don't want to win here. But they could have gone back to Minshew in week 17, but they were locked into the one seed or the one pick. So they could have done that, but they didn't.

But you're saying that this is a terrible thing and bad for the sport. He said at the beginning of the week he's going to play Nate Sudfeld at some point. No, he didn't say. He said if the situation was right. And if you really want to evaluate... You're talking about a coach who was a backup quarterback himself that wanted to give a guy a chance. They're already giving a backup quarterback a chance.

And, oh, that's their start. Hold on. Doesn't it mean anything that Jalen Hurts was 7-20 for 16 gamesants started Daniel Jones for 16 games. No, they didn't, Chris. He started for 14 games. And they pulled him when they didn't think he was giving them the best chance to win. They started Colt McCoy that one game. Or the, you know, one game where he was at, or Jones was, whatever.

You know what I'm saying. No, that's completely different. It was a terrible decision. It was a disgrace. I will never eat a cheesesteak. Well, to be a few months before I eat a cheesesteak again. And the Liberty Bell sucks. Okay, we're out of here.

Goodbye. Did you root for Drago? Bruce Arians, by the way, said Mike Evans is, if he's 80% healthy, he's playing. Okay, great. Did I root for Drago? Is that what you asked me? Yeah. No, but I used to.

Now you will. I probably will. Adam hates the roots. He's never listened to Hall & Oates again. I didn't know they were filming out there. It's going to be butter on his bagel from now on. Goodbye. Savage.