Fantasy Football Today - Fantasy Superlatives, Trade Targets, MIN-LAC Preview, Grade the Trade (10/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

We knock out some FAB stuff and the news and notes and get right into the Most Traded list (5:30). Are we buying, selling or holding guys like Derrick Henry, JK Dobbins, A.J. Brown and Chase Brown? Then we get some Buy Low candidates (12:00) from the guys including Kyren Williams, George Kittle and Luther Burden ... We're selling high (26:15) on D'Andre Swift, Michael Pittman and Javonte Williams, but in some cases it's going to take a GREAT offer. We also preview Vikings-Charges (39:15) with a lot of wide receiver and tight end questions ... Fantasy Superlatives (53:00)! We give our first half MVP, Biggest Bust, Rookie of the Year and Best Waiver Wire addition and then we look ahead to the Second Half Superlatives. Who will be the Second Half MVP? We finish the show with an email about what kind of Halloween candy the FFT crew would be (1:02:00), some advanced stats (1:04:00) and Grade the Trade ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

Pop day. If people still say that great, if people don't, we're bringing it back. Welcome to the show. It is Wednesday. We welcome you to fantasy football today, presented by Bed, M. GM, make it legendary. Let's make some legendary trades. We're going to look at the most traded list. We're going to be a buy lows and sell highs. And it's the midway point. It's the midway point of the fantasy season. So we'll do first half awards and second

half predictions. Who's going to be the MVP of the second half? Who's the MVP of the first half? How much did Ted's, Tess Johnson go for in the FFT Open leagues? All those things and more. All right. I'm Adam Azer. Dave Richard. Heath Cummings. Heath has the by week blues. I'm treading very lightly around Heath today. Heath, you look healthy. You look good. I just want to say that it worked. Thank you to whoever the brilliant listener was who just saved me from sneezing through Adams, kind of long for a packed show monologue. Because I had to sneeze as soon as the music came on, the sneeze button hit in my nose. And I just stared at my ring light and it went away.

Officially, it is staring at a light prevents you from sneezing. I did confuse that last week. I apologize. Now, I thought Tess Johnson was going to go for a lot. Turned out Tess Johnson was rostered in most of my leagues. But in the FFT Open Leagues, I only saw one big, big bid on him, $25 in one of the leagues. In the others, I saw $8, $11, $1.00. This is out of an original $100 budget, $0, and Dave got him for $3.

Oh, I got him. Yeah. I overestimated the Tess Johnson. in mania. However, I underestimated the O'Ronday Gatston mania because he routinely went for at least 15. A lot of cases, $20 to $25, which we think is probably... Did you hear Dave on Sunday night's show? Yeah, but Dave on Tuesday's show said that's probably not the route to go because there are a lot of tight ends and spending 20, 20% of your original FAB budget on any of them was probably a mistake. So I only bring this up for the people who still are running FAB

tonight, you know, obviously your league's going to be different, but that's true. just what we saw in the FFT Open Leagues. News and notes, the Jets seem likely to go with Tarad Taylor after what their owner said about Justin Fields yesterday and Rich Semini reporting it. It seems like that's the way they're leaning this week at Cincinnati. Carson Wentz is going to start this week. We're going to preview that game, Minnesota, at the Chargers on Thursday. Aaron Jones has a chance to play.

The Chargers run defense has been probably the worst in football over the last three weeks. They've allowed a running back to score 29 or more fantasy points in three straight games. It's unbelievable. Lamar Jackson missed practice Monday. They were off yesterday. They'll practice again today. The Chargers, back to that game, the Chargers, their starting tackles were both limited.

So they both missed last week's game. We'll see if they play. It could be a big deal. Hassan Haskins is doubtful. Todd Bowles did not rule out Chris Godwin and Bucky Irving just yet. Seems like they're unlikely, but we'll see. They're at New Orleans. Washington plans on having Debo Samuel practice all week.

They're at the Chiefs on Monday, so we won't know his practice status until Thursday, Deepo Samuel. Jacoby Myers, he's on a buy. He says he still wants to be traded. He's like, oh, yeah, still want to be traded. If you're desperate for a wide receiver, I'll give you a guy who's been good in two of his three healthy games. His other game, he played about half the snaps and stunk.

That's Calvin Austin. He's trending in the right direction. He plays Green Bay Sunday night. The Titans will be without Legerious need, it seems. The Broncos will be without Dre Greenlaw. It's not really a big deal. He's played like 20 snaps all year. and the Giants will have a new kicker this week,

either Young Waku or Graham Gano. Sunday, we would not have an 8.30 show because we do not have an international game. We will be on the air from 11 to 1 p.m. to 1 p.m. Getting your lineup set, YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. Two-hour pregame show, 11 to 1. Okay, I got all that out of the way. The rest of the show is yours.

Jamie will be here shortly. I want to take a look at the most traded list. Yeah, I'm not going to be. going to read this from bed i don't want to get off subject but bed you're okay ben you're in trouble um i want to take a look at the top 12 most traded we'll see how many we get to here and you just tell me are you a buy a sell or a hold based on what you think their current value is here we go derrick henry hold Bye

AJ Brown So high if you can Bye Are you okay What happened Got this said like thing going out over there No I'm good No he's got a sneeze

Is that it? No I'm just thinking No you're holding in a sneeze I have no sneezes currently My light I looked at the light I got the light J.K. Dobbins.

I would, I don't think you can sell that high on him. He's probably more of a hold than a sell high. So, if you can. He's got no more than two catches in any game, no more than one catch since week one. Dallas, Houston, Raiders, Chiefs coming up. Yeah. I mean, I don't feel like R.J. Harvey is doing anything to, like,

make inroads on Dobbins' role. I think Dobbins' role is pretty much set. not as great of a role as it could be. There's still a third running back in the mix there. I don't think anybody's clamoring for J.K. Dobbins and trades, so you're not going to get much for him if you

do trade them. It's like a Gus Edwards role with a bottom 10 offensive line. They have a bottom 10 offensive line? No, I'm sorry. Gus, it's a Gus Edward's roll period. Yeah. I meant to put a segment in the notes. He's better than Gus, though. You're not comparing him to Gus.

Well, I just want to, there's a, there's a group of running backs that have, you know, these are running backs, like fantasy relevant running backs that have the lowest route participation rate in the NFL. David Montgomery is at the way bottom. Quinn Sean Judkins, Derek Henry, Jacori Kroski Merritt, R.J. Harvey, believe it or not, Ken Walker, and J.K. Dobbins. These guys have, Dobbins is not that bad. He just never gets targeted.

But Montgomery, Judkins, Henry, Bill, Harvey, Ken, Ken, Walker, J.K. Dobbins. They kind of are what they are. They're not going to be big factors in the passing game, right, Heath? Right. And to defend the Gus Edwards role, like when, for most of the period that he had that rule, he averaged five yards per gary. I think there's two guys on this list, though, that you could see getting 20 carries or close 18 or more carries on a fairly regular basis.

And that's Judkins and Derek Henry. Judkins has a pretty favorable schedule games where they could be competitive. They're not going to be, you know, it's not going to be like, oh, you had 10 carries as they were getting blown out. I mean, maybe they stink, so maybe they will happen. But that's the difference between Dobbins. Dobbins is around 15 carries most weeks, and he doesn't get any catches. All right.

I would say if you want to just like a little bit of an orange light on Judkins, and I don't think it's him, I think it's the line. If you look, like he just had this monster game with three touchdowns. But if you look at the games against the dolphins, every running backs, like five yards per carry, six yards per carry, six and a half yards per carry, and Judkins was, I think, 3.7 or something. Yeah. Yeah, that huge run and everything.

else was just kind of okay okay um all right uh chase brown buy sell hold i think he's actually worth trying to buy especially if you're desperate for running back help if you've been just battered by injuries and you need somebody who can fill the spot and be no better than a middle to low end rb2 i would imagine that he won't cost you a ton and there's probably can he get any worse than what he's been what has he been nine 10 ppr points 12 I'm a good week. He can be better than that is this offense

might crank it up a little bit with Joe Flacco and then Burrow coming back and scheduled toward the end of the year isn't that bad fantasy playoffs. The good news is he's averaging seven and a half yards per carry with Joe Flacco.

The bad news is it hasn't turned into yards because if Joe Flacco is on the team you're going to throw the ball 40 times. That's true. Last one here. Travis E.T.N. Buy Sell hold three bad games in a row for E. But tough schedule, right?

It was Kansas City, Seattle, and the Rams. He gets a buy now. Then the Raiders, Texans, Chargers, Cardinals, Titans, Colts. It gets easier. It's a great schedule. Buy sell, hold. By low. Sure.

I actually think that's a good one, right? I didn't really think about that until the show today, but he's on a buy, Travis Etyn. Tudin is, I mean, maybe they say, all right, we've got to get Tudin more involved coming out of the buy. But short of that, he's got a great role with a schedule that lighten up. Catches could go away when Brenton Strange comes back because we did see that. But I don't know. Something about it is.

If you've got ETN, do you make the move to acquire Tutin while Tutin's value is almost nothing? He's got to be, I mean, you've got to be one of those dropped players by Thursday morning. Yeah, he could be. You can just wait for him to get dropped. Yeah, that's the thing. That's going to happen in a lot of leagues. You should just pay attention to who's being dropped out there.

Heath. Yeah. I, yesterday, I look through the notes. I often look through the Tuesday notes because I want to see what you guys are talking about as I'm going through writing my previews. And you had the dropometer. And I didn't see a name that I thought I was going to see.

Oh, man. Show notes critique. Did you put JMO on the dropometer? We talked about them just before the dropometer because we went from some Monday night football to the dropometer. So, yeah. He should have been the headliner of the dropometer. It was, man, I've never.

ever lost the bet that I felt so good about. It was me versus Heath, Tetaroa McBillan versus James and Williams. Macbillan goes out and scores like 6.3 PPR fantasy points. I'm just sitting pretty. And, yeah, lost that one. It's almost as good as Dave and I is Marvin Harris and Jerry Judy's season long bet.

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Bet MGM mega-legendary. That code again is fantasy. Okay, by-low. You know what, Jamie hasn't spoken yet, So I'm going to let Jamie go first with his bilos. You had Kyron Williams as a bylo, right? Yes. Okay.

Kyron Williams and Bucky Irving are your bylaws. Yeah, I think you get the theme every week with me, team on a buy or guy that's coming off of injury. I think if you're in a great spot with your record, you know, these are two guys. You can't play Kyron this week. We may not get Bucky Irving for two weeks. I think both for the stretch run are going to be very prominent fancy options.

So see if the manager, managers with those. players are looking to sell and need help going into their buy week. Do you worry at all about Kyron having, I mean, that's kind of nitpicking. He's got Seattle twice, best run defensive football, arguably. He has Tampa Bay. Does that bother you at all? I mean, there's never going to be an ideal situation, I think, for a lot of players, especially, again, if you're trying to acquire somebody who's, you know, a first or second

round pick and you're hoping to get them cheap. So there's going to be some pitfalls. But like you said, I understand your nip. picking. He's on a very good offense. He's going to get a lot of opportunities. I know Blake Horm has been stealing some touches, but that really hasn't impacted what his potential can still be and what his upside still is. So if I can get him at the right cost, I'd be looking to do so. All right. That's Karen Williams. If there's anyone on the, would you rather have A.J. Brown or Karen Williams? I think given the position difference, it depends on what you

need, but they're very similar type of players. You know, huge upside, have had some struggles. You'd like to have them on your fantasy roster for the stretch run. Can I tell you why, you know what? I'll get to this in a set. I'll get to this later because Dave has A.J. Brown has a cell high. I'm going to, I'm going to disagree. I'm going to give you a good reason.

I think I'm going to change your mind, Dave, Richard. Okay. That never happens. Yeah. By low for Dave is George Kittle. and Rico Dowdell. Kittle had two targets. He did run most of the routes.

Rico Dowdell had 17 carries and one catch against the Jets. You're saying by low on Kittl and Dowdell. If you've got a fantasy manager that started Kittl and they're really unhappy with what they got. They waited and waited and waited for Kittle to come back, and then he gets a zero. Yeah, maybe you can go ahead and lock yourself into one of the best tight ends that you could have in fantasy football without giving up too much for him.

So it'll take an impatient manager to give up on Kittle or they might have another tight end that they've been using while Kittle was on the shelf. And they might say, yeah, I'm better off using this other random tight end. I'll trade you Kittl and get something for them. I think Kittal will obviously start catching passes. And I especially think it'll be better once Brock Purdy comes back. Before you go to Dalladay, I have a question, not specifically questioning this. just yeah no go ahead in general change my mind and i think it goes it goes both ways in terms of

positive and negative do you think with all these tight ends popping up and their recent production and potential so ronda gadsden you know now k doten's opportunity does this help or hurt the trade market in tight ends you know does it help the fact that if you're the kiddle manager and looking to maximize his value to somebody like like you let's say for example is looking to buy him and you have Gadsden or you have, you know, one of these guys, K. Dotton, et cetera. Does it help that you're able to sell from a position of strength? Or do you think because the market is now saturated, it's harder to trade somebody like Kittle for their value? I think you have to view Kittle as someone who's better than one of these streaming tight ends.

And if you think George Kittle is just as good as Gadsen or not, no, no, that's not the point. No, I get what you're saying, Jamie. It's a great question, you know, it's like, does someone take the approach with, I'm not going to trade for Kittle? I'm just going to stream tight ends all year. Right. Right. But some people don't like doing that. Some people just want their tight end and they want to set it and forget it with their lineup.

And especially with someone like Kittle, who I think we can still look at and say should be able to outperform a streaming tight end from week to week. But that's not the question, though. The question is the trade market. The trade market now, because we were drafting the top three guys, right? We're drafting Bowers and McBride and Kittle at a different place. No, no, you're not going to get third round value for Kettle and trade. Right. But I guess what I'm, what I'm,

I'm getting at is like, maybe I'm not explaining this right way. I think if you, if you would go back through this season and look at our weekly waiver wire at tight end and like the top two guys every week and what they did the next week, if you've been on that roller coaster, then George Kittle sounds pretty, pretty, yes, like, because how so many, and I'm talking, I just goes to my own column. And so many times, this guy has had two straight good games, looks off. awesome, and he scores two points the next week. Right.

So, okay, I'll wrap it up with this. Do you think the best play at tight end is to buy low on a guy like George Kittle or Brock Bowers or to play the waiver wire? I think if the Kittle manager, if the Bowers manager, I guess you throw McBride in there because they're going to buy it, because they're going to buy. Like if they're willing to part for him, part for those tight ends, cheap enough, you should obviously buy. But if they're asking for, to Dave's point,

you know, first, second, third round value because that's where they drive in them, then you just play the way more. I'll give you a few names. Would you trade this player for George Kittle? Chris Olave. In a blanket, I'd rather have Olave. I'd rather have Olavee and a streaming tenant.

I guess I'll just. Yeah, like that's the way you can put it. I think it would be full PPR. I'd take OLAV, half PPR. I'd rather just go to get it'll. That's fair. fair. Would you rather have J.K. Dobbins or George Kittle? Kittle.

Probably Kittal. Dobbins and a streaming tenant. Okay. Okay. Let's move on. Dave, give me your quick thoughts on RICO Dowdell. He's the better running back in Carolina. Just watch them play. Chuba Hubbard is okay, but RICO Dowdal is faster, hits the hole quicker, can catch the ball out of the backfield.

I really don't know what the Panthers coaching staff is thinking by starting Chuba and then giving him as much work as they did. I am hoping that they see the light. This is me banking on Dave Canales and Company, recognizing that Dowdell's the better back. After last week, his value took a huge hit because he didn't run for 200 yards and he split pretty close to 50-50 in terms of carries. I think the Snapshare tells a little bit of a different story.

But I would bet on the upside with Dowdle because I think especially because you can getting cheaper now than you could have at any point in the prior two weeks. Oh, I just, I hate his, his late season schedule. Like, Rams, then a buy. So this is beginning in like week 13, I think. Rams, buy at the Saints, then Bucks, Seahawks in week 16 and 17. So Rams, Bucks, Seahawks are some of the best run defenses in football. And unfortunately, they're all on a schedule.

We go down the schedule. that part's tough yeah he can help you get there uh chuba played 54% of the snaps dowdell was at 46% i got to take a break i didn't realize we went too long all right we'll look at heaths by lows they're by super lows they're hopefully buy off the waiver wire for free we'll talk about that when we come back on fantasy football today i have to tell you about this game changing product i use before a night out with drinks it's called pre-alcohol Zbiotics pre-alcohol probiotic drink is the world's first genetically engineered probiotic. It was invented by Ph.D. scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking.

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I'm trying not to think about my bad teams. You guys with bad times teams, we're ready to help you out. but these are like there's going to be some guys and when we get to the midseason awards I think we've got a bunch of who's going to be better rest of season type stuff there's going to be some guys who've been terrible in the first half who are good and helpful and sometimes even great in the second half and if I'm going to bet on guys to do that I would like to bet on rookies to do that rookies that we thought were good before the season because every year there's one or two guys that does that and so it's been crap on Trevion Henderson week this week on social media. And listen, rightly so. He's not taking any of the work from in a situation where it kind of went like we hoped it would around him. Ramandre Stevenson fumbled. We didn't hope Antonio Gibson would get hurt, but we hoped that he would go away. And it just nothing. But I still, like I kind of look at the Henderson situation and the burden situation as it seems pretty obvious to us.

if they were playing the snaps that the Alamedes Achaeus and Ramandre Stevenson are playing that they would be scoring more fantasy points Burden in particular but there's something that their head coaches want them to do that they've not figured out yet

which is not again that surprising that happens with rookies all the time and it might last all year but if Luther Burden suddenly started playing all of the snaps that Alameda Zakias is playing I think the first off, the bear's offense might be better, their past game, but maybe not the run game. But Luther Burden would be someone, we would be ranking as a top 36 wide receiver every week, and that might be low. Because he's been awesome the few times he's gotten opportunities.

Henderson hasn't been yet, but, and maybe it's just the dynasty mindset too much, I don't think two months is enough to just make a, say this guy that 75% of us thought was really good. No, he's terrible. Never going to help you. Okay. I'll go to you one. I'll get your thoughts on a bonus by-low. Tell me if you agree or disagree.

I'd love to see it another week, but just don't know. Woody Marks, I mean, I think coming off such a bad game against Seattle, 10 carries for 15 yards, but he did have a receiving touchdown. I just thought it was interesting that he played a season high in snaps, that he had two goal on. line carries. It just seemed like they were taking the training wheels off a little bit, and they were coming out of their bi-week, right? So, you know, he kind of overtook Nick Chubb. We thought that was happening a few weeks ago, and then it completely reversed the following week.

But I was encouraged, at least by the usage for Woody Marks. I don't know. I think you hit on a couple things. One, the buy week. I think the game where we got, the trap game was He was great against the Titans, and then he struggled against the Ravens. And it's one of the rare times where they've been, where they had success running the ball. They just lost, they went into the game without their number two receiver. They lost their number one receiver. So what makes the most sense is to have a pass catching back on the field, right? So I think in the case of moving forward, like he should overtake Nick Chub.

You know, you have to at some point realize like one guy's potentially your future and one guy's not right all right let's go to the cell highs go ahead heath yeah i just i do wish that woody marks was doing something as a rusher like he's been awesome when they've thrown in the ball and i think jamie's right they'll probably throw him the ball more not having their top two wide receivers but he's got a 37% success rate to nick chubbs 47% and he's averaging almost a full yard per carry less like it's just been so bad as a rusher niners broncos jaguars or his next three games I call that a medium

run defense schedule sure not good not like jaguars are actually the best of the bunch but they're all they're all like top 12 run defense in terms of yards per care it's actually kind of bad

it wouldn't shock me to be honest with you if they struggle to run against the dolphins and the cowboys like that's how bad they are yeah that's the other thing like I don't know that I want to buy low on anyone on this team because they are pathetic and sorry even Nico Collins I mean such a strong

struggle. They cannot throw the ball deep to Nico Collins. Throw the ball deep to Nico Collins, for God's sake. He'll make a play. Well, the interesting part was Nico leaves the game and then he starts throwing down the field. Yeah, I know. Yeah, exactly. Unsuccessfully. Let's do sell highs here.

Heath, you're saying sell high on Jake Ferguson. Is he still the number one? Is he the number one tight end of fantasy? Or two touchdowns, so I would guess so. Yeah, and who's the other one? It was DeAndre Sprague. Oh, what? Just for the good. teams, right? If you're struggling to get into the playoffs, I think DeAndre Swift probably gives

you three more good games. And the schedule turns awful. And the split between he and Kyle Manangai has grown to where Monongai just had his best game and looked really good with the extra work. And if we get into a situation where the bears all of a sudden are back to averaging 3.8 yards per carry instead of 4.8 and Kyle Monongai is getting 10 to 12 touches per game. Then down the stretch, it could be bad for the Bears run game. So I don't, I'm not, I've got him ranked as a top 12 running back this week. I think Dave and Jamie do too.

But I don't think you're probably going to be able to take three more good games as a playoff team and then sell him right before the schedule turns awful. Isn't the move here to take Swift and pair him with another player? and try and upgrade to one of the better running backs. One of the best running backs. Sure. Oh, you'd have to sell very high. Right.

Yeah. Very high. Who would you rather have rest of season? DeAndre Swift or Sequechuan Barclay? Sequin's higher on the trade chart, but that gap has shrunk quite a bit. I think you could probably trade him straight up for Berkeley or for Henry in a lot of leagues. Okay. And then Ferguson?

I don't believe he's going to. to continue to be the number one tight end i don't think anybody at all probably believe that last week with cd lamb coming back but in cd lamb's first game back george pickens didn't fell off a lot more than jake ferguson did and ferguson scored two touchdowns so why don't you just go see if you can convince somebody that jake ferguson's just going to be this good all year so you trade them straight up for bowers mcbride on the buy 100% kiddle left coming off of the the the the the zero point game, 100%. You're not going to trade them straight up for Kittle.

Like, I think you could ask for something more than just Kittal. Who's higher on the trade chart? Ferguson. And I'd rather have Kittle rest of the season. Jamie, break the tie. Kittle or Ferguson? Ferguson. Interesting. Okay. Jamie, your sell highs are Devante Adams

and Michael... Pitman. Pitman's an easier case to be made just because we saw prior to Josh Downs getting hurt. You know, the numbers were starting to trickle down a little bit. And I think with what Alec Pierce has done and maybe starting to do a little bit more, obviously Tyler Warren's there and Downs picking up a little bit more targets and production, like is Pittman going to continue to be as productive as he has been? So if there is a trade window, it's probably now

with Downs still coming out of the concussion protocol. May not play again this week, but I think Pittman can bring back something very, very solid in return. And then just looking at Adams coming off the three touchdown game without Pooka and Kua there, going into their bi-week, again, you know, this is a sell high for a superstar. Not that he hasn't performed like one for a good portion of the season, but I just don't think it's as sustainable as what we just saw. Okay. Dave, time for your sell highs.

It's Javante Williams and A.J. Brown. In the case of A.J. Brown, he's coming off of a monster game. It's always a good time to sell high on somebody the last time A.J. Brown came off of a monster game. He scored less than three PPR points the very next game. Not predicting that for this week for A.J. Brown, but just saying that he's at a high point. All of a sudden, we're going to buy into Philadelphia being able to throw the ball. It's just not what I would expect their identity to be rest of season and that they will eventually go back to being at least balanced between running and passing, if not run heavy. and that Sequin will get his act together.

So I do, I am nervous about A.J. Brown being, you know, 20 PPR points per game good. That seems like a stretch. But I, I'm saying sell high. I'm not saying sell for whatever. If you can trade him and get, you know, a low end running back in a really good wide receiver in exchange for him, I wouldn't be opposed to that at all. Okay. So would you trade A.J. Brown for? I mean, look, we've got to be realistic here, right?

DeAndre Swift, let's start with that. Swift or A.J. Brown. I think it's close between the two. I think I have, I'm looking right now, Swift, I've got it 18 points in PPR. Or Brown, I do. Swift is a spot higher. So give me Swift. Would you trade A.J. Brown for Travis E.T.N. And Zayflowers.

Yes. That is a deal. that I like. Assuming that we've got Lamar Jackson coming back. Yeah. Here's what I like. I wish he had practiced. Once we see Lamar Jackson practicing,

I feel real good about him playing this week. And that's obviously a huge key to say flowers. Here's what I like about AJ Brown. He convinced me, Adam. Yeah, no. I mean, look, he's got the Giants this week. They might be without two defensive backs. We're going to start him this week.

We have to start him this week, right? I mean, with the buys and the injuries and whatever. Yeah, he has a buy. Start everybody who's decent. Look at the schedule after the buy. at Green Bay, Detroit, at Dallas. We've got potential shootouts there. We got the Bears after that, at the Chargers.

We've got a potential shootout. We got the Raiders after that. We've got Washington and Buffalo in the fantasy championships. Both games are on the road, so could have bad weather. But we've got a lot of really good offenses left on the Eagles schedule. Could be a pass-heavy rest of season. You know, pass-heavy for them could be 30, 32 pass attempts but that's still a lot and that's that's eight or more targets every week for

a j brown maybe so that's what i see when i look at the eagle schedule i see a lot of potential high scoring games which could be very good for their passing game the thing that i'll give a positive and a negative the negative is i think one of a j brown's touchdowns last week was the same stupid route he's been running all year where he runs 10 yards turns around and stops but then he just decided to take off down the sideline he was he was pointed in that direction from what a great quarterback and the second thing speaking speaking of a great quarterback there are six quarterbacks who have a catchable target rate of 89 percent or better jalen hurts is one of them and he has the highest air yards per attempt of anybody on that list like

the thing like hopefully they continue to throw more of these deep passes because Jalen Hertz is doing a phenomenal job making those balls catchable. Well, even he had said that he hadn't been playing. Now, look, I'm on your side. I think the Jalen Hertz criticism by the national media is insane and the local media. There's, yes, there are things he doesn't do well, but we ignore the things that he does incredibly well. He also is not running.

Three straight games where he is just not running. It is bizarre. Sure. So that's going to actually hurt A.J. Brown when he starts running again. But I just, I look at, I mean, he will. It's, you know, he's not going to stop running. He had negative 10 rushing yards in week, in week seven. But again, I mean, that schedule, like, enticed me with A.J. Brown.

It's just something to think about, Dave, if you're, I hope you're. And the targets have been there for him. And that's the encouraging thing, too. It's not like we're waiting for these targets to come. Exactly. Dave, Javante Williams, what the hell? I hope you're wrong about that. Because I have so much Javande.

I mean, this guy's got one of the. the best roles in fantasy. Unfortunately, he's one of the least productive receiving running backs. It's unbelievable. But he gets targets. He gets all their carries. He's a goal line guy. We like the Cowboys. What are we doing here? Why are we selling high on Javante? You've got to sell very high

on Javante because I do view him as like a top five, six type of running back rest of season. But the schedule's going to get harder. And I imagine that at some point the Dallas offense will start to either struggle or struggle to run the ball and or get into a bunch of high-scoring

shootouts where Dax's just going to have a bunch of games where he throws a ton and there isn't much there. Two weeks ago, we saw this against Carolina and Giovante Williams didn't have a good game then. So it's not, again, it's not a call to get these guys off your team. It's if you can turn them, if you can upgrade

them, do it. If you can sell high and get more value for them now because a few weeks from now, I don't think they're going to have the same value. That's the point. Okay. It does have tough run defenses. And I am kind of little squeamish on Javante, rest of season to be perfect. Who are you aiming for

to trade to get upgrade over time? I mean, I'm looking to try and turn him into, I can't do it just with him, but find me Christian McCaffrey, Bijon Robinson, Jemir Gibbs, you know, one of those studs or take me to a wide receiver, top five type of wide receiver.

I know I'm going to have to give up something with Javante Williams to touch any of those guys. Right. I don't know if Javante was going to carry the same value if he has two mediocre games in a row. How about No, I don't disagree with that. I just get nervous about them when it happens.

Pying the sky to get those type of players. No, not unless you've, some of those players are, I've got a one in 16 with Bejan Robinson. And so if I was desperate to start winning games, I've got to break up Bejan Robinson, Bejan Robinson, B. John Robinson, B. Robinson, into two good starters for my team. Getting Javante Williams and another wide receiver,

you can give me Zay Flowers. I'd have to look at that really hard. Yeah. You would trade Robinson for? for Javante and Zayfavar? I would consider it. I mean, look, I made that, I made a trade that I thought was great.

Turned out to be horrible. I traded McCaffrey for Kairn Williams and Nico Collins. I'm losing that big time, but that's, I think. But some of that has to do with just the issues in Houston. But I think, well, I knew about those issues. But if you trade,

if you trade Javante Williams and someone, I mean, would Javante Williams and like, Devante Adams be enough for Christian McCaffrey or too much I think it would be close I think it would be close enough but it's it completely there's context that's needed because the person that has Christian McCaffrey isn't going to auto do that trade they've got to have a need for a wide receiver yeah I will just say just for people listening like Devante hasn't just been a volume merchant there's two running backs really good efficiency

There's two running backs that are averaging more than four yards after contact per rush attempt. And one of them, he said his name a bunch of times, a bunch of different ways, Bijon Robinson. And the other one's, the other one's Giovante Williams. All right. Well, I'm wondering if Jordan Mason going to join that group this week, because he's got what's looking like a great matchup. We'll talk about that.

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from weeks five through seven, the last three weeks. Chargers are allowing the second most points per game in the NFL. The only team worse has been the Bengals. They are tied. The Bengals and the Chargers are tied. Most yards per play allowed over the last three weeks. The Chargers have given up 27 points to the commanders, 27 at Miami, 38 points to the Colts in their last three games.

Their run defense has been horrible. They're getting a little bit healthier. I was reading about it in the athletic and the reasons for the struggles against the run. One of them was the absence of Khalil Mack, who played a little bit less. last week, the absence of Denzel Perryman who came back last week, et cetera, et cetera. I'll skip all the details. But hopefully they're getting better.

But holy cow, I mean, this defense has been horrible. Jamie, are we expecting the Vikings to put up a big number here against the Chargers on the road Thursday? There's certainly the potential for that. It's hard to trust Carson Wentz because the past offense has not looked great. And the past defense for the Chargers has still been very solid. prior to the Colts game. So will they have the same type of success? I think Wentz is in the low-end starting conversation given the week and the teams that are

by, but I think you just look at the body of work for the Chargers and you wonder, can they have that level of success? So I don't want to fully buy into Wentz. Like I'm starting him in Superflex and two quarterback leagues, but in a one quarterback league, I'd rather start Flacko by far. Would you rather start Tyrod Taylor against the bank? Angles, assuming that Jets quarterback or whence? If Garrett Wilson plays, I would start to Rod Taylor.

I don't think we'll know that, though, by Thursday night. Yeah. All right, Heath, how much is your ranking of Jordan Mason, who is facing a team that, as I said earlier, has allowed 29 or more fantasy points to three straight running backs? That would be Chorri Kroski, Merrick, Devon, A. Chan, and Jonathan Taylor. How much would your ranking of Jordan Mason change if Aaron Jones is activated? It would probably go down a cup. couple of spots. I think I've got him right around RB20 right now. I think you might see his share of the workload go down just a little bit. But he's got one game with over a 70% snap share. And it was last week. And Xavier Scott got hurt last week, right? I didn't think so. Did he? He's got a red cross next to his name. I think he was her coming into the week. you look at his touches

and it was 15 last week it was 18 the week before he's got a 16 and an 18 in there well he had a 16 and a 12 with Aaron Jones so maybe you expect he's going to have 14 touches instead of 16 touches this week I just

the catches are so inconsistent you've got two three catch games sandwiched in between two zero catch games. And I think if Aaron Jones is back, you're probably not getting more than maybe one catch. And as bad as the Chargers run defense has been the last three weeks is how bad the Vikings run offense has been the last three weeks.

Okay, rank the running backs in this game. Mason's one? Mason's one. I've got Vidal over Mason. Mason's one. Vidal is two, Jones would be three. And Jamie, are you saying Mason's one

with or without Aaron Jones? Yes. Okay, yeah, again, I mean, six and a half yards allowed to running backs in their last three games for the Chargers, so they're hoping that the better health is going to result in, you know, better defense.

But, by the way, these two teams are two of the most past heavy teams. The Vikings are back to having a very, very high pass rate, which is good. Heath, we'll get back to that in a second. Why are you optimistic about Vidal coming off a game with seven and a half fantasy points against the Colts? Well, as much as we talk about how bad the Chargers defense has been recently,

the Chargers are still favorites on a short week, and the Vikings have an implied total of, I think, 20 and a half, and the Chargers are at 24. I generally lean towards the home team on a short week, and I don't know that the Vikings run defense is great either. It's been pretty up and down. Last week it was great against Barclay. The week before, it was terrible against Judkins,

terrible against Gainwell. They've had ups and downs for sure. Okay. And then Jamie, where do you have Vidal? He's in the top 24, but it's by default. If this was a normal week, he would be outside the top 24. We have a two-game sample size of what this Chargers rush offense looks like without a Marion Hampton there,

And it was one great game against the Miami Dolphins, and it was one terrible game against Indianapolis Colts. And so I think the Vikings' run defense is probably the best run defense that they've faced. And so if he's going to struggle against the Colts, and especially if the Vikings' offense shows up, I think we've seen enough now that they'll quickly abandon the run. So I'm just a little bit nervous about what Bidal is going to look like if he doesn't score a touchdown. Here's a question. Start two this week in full PPR. Rico Dowdell.

Bill Vidal. I would sit Bill. I would sit Bill too. Okay. Yeah. Hopefully Vidal gets some targets. As someone mentioned the chat, you know,

because he doesn't, because what's his name, Bill doesn't really get those. How about this, Matthew Golden, or Kamani Vidal? Vidal. I'd go Vidal,

but that's dealer's secondary looks so bad last week. Like hopefully Jordan Love can take it. managed of it with golden but it's hard to trust golden right now as a as a guy in comparison to at least you know by now is getting touches all right let's talk about the wide receivers in this game um oh well let's save that let's save that real quick starter sit justin herbert start herbert or dart at philadelphia herbert i would go herbert

or Caleb Williams at Baltimore. Herbert. Herbert. Okay, so here's, I'm hoping that this does not come true, but the Vikings see the second fewest pass attempts per game in the NFL. And they're facing a team that throws the ball more than any team in football. So I'm hoping that we get that because last week we had the same situation. It was the Niners versus the Falcons and the Niners through 26 times.

So we're hoping for that, you know, 35 to 45 pass attempt game. for Justin Herbert. To be fair, they faced the Browns. Talking about Minnesota? Yeah. It's every single week teams aren't throwing on them. I went through every game log. Why aren't teams throwing on Minnesota?

And I honestly cannot come up with a great reason. Some of them have just been run heavy teams. Last week, the Eagles couldn't really run the ball. They threw 23 passes and they torched them. But they only ran 49 plays. It's been a different reason almost every week. Yeah, I mean, the thing I come back to is Justin Herbert's playing very well, and they just gave up five passing touchdowns in the last two games to Dylan Gabriel and Jalen Hertz.

And so to Heath's point about Jalen Hurts taking unfair criticism, he's still not the best passer in the league, and he's not at Justin Herbert's level of a passer with what the strength of the Chargers offense is right now, like those four pass catchers should have a field day. Everybody just stay tuned and maybe record this. Heath's head might explode if anyone says anything bad about Jalen Hertz for the resolution. Heath ranked the wide receivers in this. That was really bad about Jalen Hertz. I just don't think he's Justin Herbert as a passer.

Right. I don't know how we could ever expect Jalen Hertz to have as much success in his career as Justin Herbert. No, not success in career. Not what he said. It's throwing of the football. Two people are as good as a pure passers, Herbert. man i i think you could just about throw the chargers into like if anybody used to play bingo a long time ago you just put the three balls in the thing and spin it around and draw one out because go i've gone

through the data and the only thing that really stands out is that nothing yep like like there's there's not anything that really gives you a good indicator so i mostly am just starting all three of the chargers i have it currently ranked keenan lad quentin but they're all between 10 and 20 and i would just start all three of them jefferson is ahead of all of them um i think i've got addison behind all of them but he's a start also so just start all five wide receivers in this game jamie your thoughts i agree uh the order for me is jefferson one Allen 2, Mokonki 3, Addison 4, Johnston 5. Got some questions in the chat.

Maybe this will clear things up. First of all, some Herbert questions. Yeah, exactly. Herbert or Nix? Bo Nix is my start of the week, so I'd go next. I have them one spot ahead. I've got Herbert one spot ahead, but they're both starts. Herbert or Drake May against Cleveland?

Herbert. Quinton Johnston or Kamani Vidal, or start both, sit Wondale or Diggs in half PPR. I just don't understand these people who have all of these good players to start this week.

Did you not draft anybody with a week? By fantastic. Good job. All of these guys were late picks you know that also like this is great. That's true. This is what you consider

great players. Right. Well, for this week. No, I get it. But it's just funny. Like look at the names. Quinn Johnson, Waverwire guy.

Vidal, Waverwire guy. Wondale, potentially Waverwire guy. Diggs. We didn't know what to expect. I think, boy, this is tough. I think I'm sitting Kamani Bidel, but. I'm sending by Dahl. I would probably actually I said Wondale. Sorry, Heath, go ahead. No, I

Wondale's my favorite of this list. Half PPR though. Like full PPR maybe. Half PPR. I don't know. Seven for 95 every week looks pretty good to me. I don't know about that. Yeah, like I don't I never trust Wondale but I see your point. Half PPR. I think I've got Johnston the lowest but all right but that's the they're all the same boat videl or quentin johnston johnston it'd be videll for me all right and then the tight ends hawkinson or gadsden who do you like better gadsden gadsden gaskin you know hawkinson's been pretty good his last three games nine point eight ppr points or more you know so six targets he's the last two games so i've made six

catches he's the last two games like he's yeah his only like really bad games were with mccarthy with McCarthy throwing 22 times a game or something like that and now they're throwing a lot more and Hawkinson. It is a tough matchup though.

It is. Yeah. Seventh few was fantasy points out. All right. Who would you start Gadsden over? People were spending

all their fab on him. I got Gadsden or Hunter Henry in the chat. That's easy one, right? We think. Gatton. Oh,

I don't know if you saw what I tweeted yesterday. I just happened to be in the car and Arronda Gadsden senior, his father, does a local radio spot with Mark Hockman and Channing Crowder on WQAM 560 WQM in Miami

and he said he's benched his son each of the last two weeks in his fantasy league and he said he will stay on the bench because I'm not messing with karma. Ah, there we go. That's well done. Good job, Dad. Gadsden over Henry. Mason Taylor or Gadsden.

Gadsden. Gadsden, but I do like Taylor this week. Gadsden or Jake Ferguson, non-P-R. Ferguson. Ferguson. Gal let's see We got Aaron Jones if he plays

Or Tyler Alger Oh man I like Alger a lot this week I'd probably go Jones In PPR and Alger in half and none Sure How about Gadsden or Dalton Kincaid I like Kincaid a lot if he plays

But I probably would play it safe and go Gadsden's Just because you don't know I would say Unless we get a really strong indicator In the next 30 six hours. It's going to have to be Gadsden. Gadsden or Goddert? I would go Gattard. I have Goddard hire.

Gadsden or Kittl. Are you starting a DST? I prefer not to. These DSTs have stunk. They have really stunk. But both teams are a little turnover prone. Try to get away from these DSTs. And that is it for Thursday night football. Dave? Nah. Dave had to leave, by the way. Sorry about that. He had to leave mid-game preview there.

All right, mid-season awards, MVP, rookie of the year, biggest bust, and best waiver wire ads. Jamie, who's your MVP? Jonathan Taylor. Heath, who's your MVP? Christian McCaffrey. I don't even know who I'm, they're both such good answers. You got a little bit more draft value.

from Taylor. McAfree was my original answer before I delete, delete, delete, and put Jonathan Taylor, because I think they're both worthy, but I went exactly with what you just said, the draft cost. Yeah, McCaffrey's averaging 1.4 more PPR fantasy points per game, but they're both over 25. That's insane.

Biggest bust. No, no, no, wait. Rookie of the year. Rookie of the year. Stick with the Colts. Tyler Warren. I win a Buka. Do you guys think of Mecca Buka is going to be a top five wide receiver top eight wide receiver

I wrote yesterday he might be a top five wide receiver rest of season I think I'd like it a little better if they do get Godwin back because I don't think Godwin's going to keep a booga from seeing 10 targets a game but I think it might help him

if there was somebody else that defense has cared about it was a little bit scary like Baker airmailed a couple of those throws on Monday but it was a little bit scary to see the double coverage so often on at Bucca. I think it was the, if I'm not mistaken, the Eagles game was the first one

he played without Evans and Godwin. Did he play a game without Evans and Godwin? I don't... He had 10 targets. I thought Godwin played that game. Maybe that was Godwin's first came back. Yeah. But that was where he needed the big play

where the two defensive backs ran into each other. Yeah, Gobin played that game. Abuka had a huge game. Okay, how about Biggest Bust? I think I said Brian Thomas Jr. Yes, and I think that's a good answer. I said Sequin Barclay, because he was, I just looked at CBS ADP,

and Sequin Barclay was the third pick, and Brian Thomas was the 21st pick, and Sequan's only been two and a half points per game better than Brian Thomas. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I mean, to think you, Bejohn Robinson, Sequin Barclay, Jemir Gibbs, back to back to back. Just, oh, brutal pick of Barclay. And then the best waiver wire ads so far. I was struggled with this with Daniel Jones. I almost was going to just put all cults.

But I struggled with this with Daniel Jones versus Rico Dowdle. And I went with Dowell just because those two games that you started him won you a year week. Yep. I haven't doubted to. Okay. All right. Let's talk about the second half superlatives then. We're going to look ahead here.

Who's going to be the fantasy MVP in the second half? I said James Cook, you know, just coming off of their buy. He was good at the start of the season. We've had the last lull prior to their by week. You've heard a lot of chatter about not getting him the ball enough. And we know what he was last year and what he looked like at the start of this season, which was amazing. so he could be I mean you're clearly starting him every week

but could be one of the top five running backs and fantasy rest of the way sorry I may have laughing about in a moment go ahead I may have been too influenced by Monday night but I said Jemir Gibbs you know we had a lot of questions about how the Detroit offense might be different

coming into this year and it seems like the way that it's different is let's just give our best players the ball more often and not use as mini-plit guys as often and David Montgomery ended up with 13 carries and two catches in on Monday night but a lot of that was they just ran them into the line the last two series because the game was over so I asked um on Twitter who people thought would be the

MVP of the second half and one of the one I was laughing at was someone put the gif of Rob Grodkowski saying Amika and Bigboo which just cracks me up every time but Rishi Rice I think is a really good answer here A lot of people said Rishi Rice and people said like Jonathan Taylor

Someone said Sequin I just don't really see it With Sequin Obviously it could happen I went back I watched this guy I mean I saw the game live And then I went back and I watched this carries against Minnesota

And he's still making some breathtaking plays Spinning away from guys in the backfield He's just not hitting the home run He doesn't have a 20-yard carry yet. I don't really have... My theory is that the offensive line is not getting to the second level like they were.

It's just a theory and not qualified to say that definitively. But I see Barclay. It's not like he's... Nobody thinks he's washed up. It's not like he stinks. He's still doing good things. Like, you can see it in the passing game. But I cannot find a seven-game stretch in his career.

I went back and looked at his career. 3.3 yards per carry right now. I can't find a stretch like this. I found some similar stretches, but they were mostly in either, A, one of his kind of down seasons, or B, coming off a mid-season injury. This is getting pretty worrisome now with Sequin Bradley. I think better things are ahead.

I just don't know that he's going to be the fantasy MVP. I think the things you've got to look at, and we're going to, again, have these may not happen this year, but whenever there's the workload and the small sample size of the 2,000-yard rushers, he's on pace right now. Every single one of them declined by 500 yards or more. I know, but this is extreme.

I feel like he could be a 4.2 yards per carry kind of guy rest of season. And if he is, he's going to be really good. He can't be 3.3. He's not going to be 5.5 or whatever he was last year at Berkeley. I mean, a yard jump is pretty big. It is, but it's not uncommon to see that kind of regression, you know, for a player like Barclay to have a bet. If it were like a four or five game stretch, it would be one thing.

Seven games is getting somewhere. I just think that he's still showing a lot of explosiveness. it's been mostly in the passing game but you still see the speed I can't really diagnose it quite honestly the line hasn't been as good there have been injuries there it's just the line I'm not sure we've seen that

I think we've seen not to be pedantic but I think we've seen more of the quickness and lateral agility than we've seen the speed he hasn't really been able to open it up no he hasn't I don't know if that's his fault but like if he could spin away from guys who are right in front of his face multiple times in the last game.

And, you know, I don't know, I don't know what it is. I just, he's not washed up because people are asking the chat. He's Barclay, Barclay, I've seen a lot of Barclay here. I believe he's not washed up. I also think this line excuse is kind of ridiculous. Like, I know the Eagles line hasn't been nearly as good. It's still really good. It's still a good offensive line.

At worst, it's average. It's not like Siguan Barclay is running behind the Texans offensive line. No, but that's the difference between a 2,000 yard season and then 3.3 yards per carry. That's my thing. I don't think it should be the difference between a 2,000 yard season and 3.3. I think it should be the difference between 5.5 and 4.2.

You know what I mean? Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I hope maybe. Who's the comeback player of the year based on a bad first half? I said Ladd-McConkie started to show some life the last couple of weeks. We know that they're going to struggle

to run the ball, at least until Hampton returns based on one game. But I don't really try. trust Kamani by doubt to be the catalyst of their offense. So for a quarterback and Justin Herbert, who is going to throw the ball around 40 times per game, if not more, I think there's a lot to like about Ladd-McCocky situation,

even in a crowded receiving corps. I said Teddaroa McMillan, because Adams told us all year how bad he's been in the first half. And so hopefully the rookie can like basically the same thing as Luther Burden and Trevionn Henderson. Hopefully he can turn things around in the second half. I'm hopeful for him. but he's averaging 11.9 fantasy points per game,

and he is wide receiver to 36 per game in full PPR, 35 per game in full PPR. I'm going to take a guy actually, I wasn't even thinking about this, right above him in points per game. I'm going to say Stefan Diggs. Some very good underlying data with Stefan Diggs. We just need to see him play more.

It doesn't fit the category, though. He's averaging 12 points per game. No, you said somebody who we thought was going to be great that struggled him in the first time of the season. That's what I'm thinking. Nobody thought he was going to be great. Oh, no. No, I didn't say something.

I didn't say that you thought was going to be, a comeback player of the year. Okay, honestly, I wasn't planning on saying Diggs. I just looked up McMillan's points per game, saw Diggs right ahead of him. I think Diggs is a good by-low. Guy we should have sold high on. Fitman.

Quentin Johnston. Yeah. Okay. All right, I got an email all the day. It's from Grant. Grant got bored and he asked Chat GPT to describe what it thinks each of us would be as Halloween candy.

Okay? So for me, ChatGPT thinks I'm plain M&Ms. I'm the guy who says, I don't like peanut butter and chocolate's too rich, so you know he's going with something basic and universal. Okay, none of that is true, Chat, GPT. I do love plain Eminem's. Jamie is Snickers.

He is balanced. Chocolate, caramel, nuts, a little chewy, universally loved, just like Jamie's fantasy takes. Dave is Reese's peanut butter cups, a total classic that's been around forever, exactly like Dave's, you don't sit your studs approach. I don't know if Dave has that approach. Shachimit kind of sucks. Heath is dark chocolate or dark chocolate almonds. Love both. This is ridiculous.

Love both. Health conscious, sophisticated, and a little contrarian. Okay, that's not bad. You know, I've said a lot of bad things about AI, but it sounds like it's getting better. While everyone else is pounding candy corn, Heath's enjoying his antioxidant rich cacao with 72% cocoa solids. The quote is spot on. Yeah, good. It should be while everyone else is enjoying Halloween, Heath is doing something else.

Dan Schneier is Sour Patch Kids. He starts sour. He's got that sharp, intense New York energy. But once you get to know him, he's sweet underneath. and Jacob Gibbs, Smarties. Come on, it's right there in the name. He's the data wizard who politely teaches everyone why their priors are wrong.

This is great. This is a hell of a bowl of candy. Eminem, Snickers, Reese peanut butter cups, sour patch kids, and dark chocolate almonds. It's a diabetic stream, yeah. Yeah, it is. Welcome to Halloween. Actually, dark chocolate's good for your help.

I've heard that. All right, I'll finish with stats that have caught my eye. Give me a quick reaction. Minnesota, very past heavy again. Justin Jefferson has one touchdown on the season. Do you think maybe he's about to just go off in the second half? That would probably depend on how much you believe in J.J. McCarthy, right? Because if McCarthy is good, then there's huge upside for Jefferson.

If McCarthy is going to struggle, like we saw, at least in that Falcons game, and I think Keith nailed it, like probably didn't realize the Falcons how good they are. You might be a little bit nervous about that. Plus now, Jordan Addis is back. But I think there's still huge potential for Jefferson, who's proven he could be successful with almost any quarterback he's played with. I think he'll be better than he has been. I'm not sure he's going to explode.

Among 70 wide receivers with 25 or more targets, I'm going to give you three that have really good advanced metrics in at least two of these three metrics. Target per route run rate, yards per route run rate, first down per route run rate. Stefan Diggs is top six. 16 in all three of them. He's top five and two of them. Ricky Pearsall and Josh Downs are top 10 and two of those three metrics.

Downs is kind of always there. He just doesn't play enough. That's exactly the point. I think that that group of stats that you just gave really illustrates. Guys that don't run all of the routes often have better metrics on these. Like he's not,

A guy that runs 90% of the routes is it's much more difficult for them to be top. Now, if you're JSN, it isn't. Right. But, like, Diggs has one game where he's played 60% of the snaps this year. I think he's had two games where he's run, like, 75% or more of the routes. I'm just hoping that goes up. Look, Drake May is having an MVP-like season. I really think Diggs has a chance to just crush everyone in targets on that team.

There was a great graphic last night that was shared that showed like the best second year QBs and passes of 20 or more yards and Drake May is basically breaking the chart. Wow. But the funny thing was like some of the three worst, I think, were Goff and Lamar and somebody else who was really good. And the three best were Purdy and Kaepernick and Tua. So is Drake? May on the right end?

Yeah, well, yeah. Yeah. Who do you think right now is second MVP? Voting. Oh, he might be first. Because Mahomes is one. Oh, I thought Baker was one, but Baker just had that horrible game. If Mahomes is one, I guess Baker's two for me, then May.

Heath? Yeah. I don't think there is a very good. Daniel Jones has deserved credit but I think I think no I think when you watch the tape of Daniel Jones you see a lot of really terrible throws so I think Jonathan Taylor actually would get my vote ahead of Daniel Jones but Jones had a great year but not MVP year um what's your top three Jamie I would go Mahomes may and mayfield in the order would be my homes Mayfield may all right grade this trade from Andrew

I get Jake Ferguson and Zay Flowers I give Tyler Warren and either Jordan Addison or T. Higgins. This is an F-minus. Do not do it. Tell me again, sorry. He would give up Warren and either Addison or Higgins to get Ferguson and Flowers. Why is it after you?

It's a D. It's not an F. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it either, but it feels like it's a wash. Like you're just trading to trade. Yeah. From Kyle, would you trade Derek Henry and Ameca Abouca for Jamar Chase in a 12-team PPR league? That's a lot. If you really believe Joe Flacco is this, then it's worth it? I'd have to have three other running back some OK starting.

Okay. Would you trade? I mean, Abuka, I know Dave said this before Flacco, but he said he would take a buca this was pre hamstring injury mike evans was out of the time but dave said i think he had a trade chart i know we talked about this off the year he said he would take abuka over jama chase rest of season weeks ago this was peekabuca chase had just lost what a great team name what pika buca that's good yeah we're to end our show on that that was a good one heath um it was james Oh, well, it was a good spot.

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