Fantasy Football Today - Favorite Mid-Round Picks! (05/06 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: May 6, 2022

If you drafted Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins or Justin Herbert in the mid-rounds of your 2021 draft, you may have won your league! Let's find the best picks of 2022 beginning with our mid-round philosoph...ies (5:30). Quarterback is always a good position to target here, but tight end may not be. Dalton Schultz, however, may break the mold (9:30) ... News and notes (16:30) and a discussion about the Seahawks passing game and Commanders run game. Then we're back to our favorite mid-round picks. Heath loves to target three wide receivers (25:15) who are currently available after Round 6: Michael Thomas, Juju Smith-Schuster and Brandin Cooks. Heath also likes three running backs (30:50) available around Round 8: CEH, Miles Sanders and Chase Edmonds. Oh, also Jalen Hurts (34:50)! ... Dave likes A.J. Dillon as a mid-round pick (36:50), plus a group of four WRs (40:00) with big potential including Allen Lazard and Gabriel Davis ... Your Apple Podcast questions (46:40) and emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:22 He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Welcome to the Friday show, everybody. You know, last season, you could have drafted Tee Higgins, Jamar Chase, Justin Herbert, Antonio Brown, Melvin Gordon, and Michael Carter with a mid-round pick. But you also could have drafted Ronald Jones, Noah Fant, Robbie Anderson, Odell Beckham, and Trey Sermon with a mid-round pick. So let's make the right decisions in the middle rounds. Heath, are you ready to make good decisions today? It sounds like you were telling me, and this is groundbreaking,
Starting point is 00:01:53 that there are both good and bad players available in the mid-rounds. I do think it's groundbreaking. I think I would like for, I only presume with this type of intro like you're setting us up for the research that you've done that tells us what is the difference like how can we tell the difference between a good pick and a bad pick heading into the middle rounds you sir overestimated me i have done no such research i'm simply pointing out there were a lot of hits and a lot of misses last year uh dave are you ready to take a trip down memory lane? I'm always down for a trip toward the past. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Exciting past. This better be a good memory, though, because I'm in a good mood. I don't want to – don't bring up Jerry Judy's name, please. I predict. You know, somebody once said, it's never yesterday. It's never tomorrow. It's always today. So I just try to be happy right now who said that i was a paraphrase of willie nelson i knew it was going to be willie nelson that's like your go-to anyway i decided to listen to fft and five from a year ago when dave and i
Starting point is 00:03:02 talked about favorite mid-round picks and oh this is this is not what i want i do it because obviously you did an fft and five as a prelude to the fantasy football today hour-long show about mid-round picks and so your research you had a choice and you chose the fft and five well one of them took five minutes dave gave his favorite mid-round picks and here's what he said oh that's gonna be great i think they're awesome you started off with chase edmunds and leonard fournette pretty good huh that's excellent then you went on out of two ain't bad all right let's just stop right no no edmunds was a good we're good let's talk about the present that's two out of two.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Someone once said, yesterday is a thing and tomorrow is a thing, but today is now, so be happy. Right now. Hold on. It goes on. Chase Edmonds was a good mid-round pick, by the way. Justin Herbert, you said you liked a lot in the mid-rounds. And Joe Burrow. And then you said you liked Kenyon Drake toward the, as a toward the end of the late round picks,
Starting point is 00:04:05 you said Kenyon Drake. I think you absolutely nailed it. And I gave the case for James Connor. I was, I was enthused about drafting. Throw that in there too. That was the best one of them all. I think Leonard Fournette was the best one of them all.
Starting point is 00:04:17 But anyway, it was a good podcast. So the pressure's on to repeat last year. Well done, Dave Richard. Before we get into our mid roundround philosophies and mid-round picks, we have a new Heath sigh that Heath dropped during our mic check before Dave even came on.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I would say, well, I'm going to play it before I give any adjectives. So, Dave, here you go. Here's the newest Heath sigh. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. I would call it sultry. That's not a sigh. I would call it s That's not a sigh.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I would call it sultry. Sultry. That's a sound of disapproval. Disapproval? I don't know. I think that's disapproval. Sounds like a lot of approval in there. I hear that all the time whenever I make a point that Heath is ready to attack
Starting point is 00:05:01 seconds later on FFT. I think you're right. I think that's exactly what it was. I know that. I speak fluent Heath side. Okay. Well, I'm going to throw it. I'm going to add it to the mix.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Let's talk mid-round philosophies. Dave, first of all, let's talk mid-round definition. I think we're looking at the beginning of round six, right? After the first 60 picks are off the board. And from round six through nine-ish, roughly, we cool with that? Chris Towers when he turned 30 that he was now middle-aged and he argued with me for a long time, but I told him like the average age of a humans right around, um, at lifespans right around 80. And so you go 10 years on either side, 30 to 50 is middle-aged that, uh, he didn't quite like that. I think our drafts are 15 rounds. So right about seven and a half would be the middle of the draft. I went two and a half rounds on
Starting point is 00:06:07 either side for five through ten. You could make it six through nine or whatever. All right. We're going to stick with six through nine. I'm officially depressed. We're not middle-aged. We're 100% middle-aged. In fact, Dave and I are almost certainly
Starting point is 00:06:23 over halfway done. You're going to be getting discounts on things soon, so that's good. All right, Dave, give me your mid-round philosophies. Dave, what do you got? You know, I'm kind of thinking about the rest of my life and the decisions I've made. I'm not sure if I'm ready to start talking about mid-round picks and drafts that don't matter for three more months at least. What a show.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Did I really have to eat that second pizza in ninth grade? You have time to change, Dave. You still have less than half of your life yeah i know okay so the one thing that we always talk about is the dead zone with running backs and i think that when you're drafting in round six through eight especially this year you shouldn't expect to find a lot of running backs that you can confidently start you can find running backs that are worth, that you could consider number three running backs or premium stashes. I'm thinking of like A.J. Dillon here as someone who could be, they could fall into an amazing situation. Lottery ticket, we've used that term before.
Starting point is 00:07:36 These are the best kinds of lottery tickets in round six through eight. But if you start your draft with a bunch of wide receivers, you take a tight end you splurge a quarterback maybe you only get one running back man round six through eight you are not going to be happy with the types of runners that are there if you're looking for a starter but is that exactly the opposite of what i said about round six on a previous show was it was it around five Well, that's what I think it is this year. I'm not saying that this is annual advice. No, well, look, round six has... Round six may have Damian Harris, A.J. Dillon, Ken Walker in it.
Starting point is 00:08:15 That's not so bad. Michael Carter. I don't want him. Never mind. Last year, I mean, we were just talking about the guys that you guys nailed. Leonard Fournette, James Conner. That might have been it.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Chase Edmonds. Chase Edmonds. It was a good late round pick. It wasn't a league winning pick. Mid round pick. Sorry. It was a good mid round pick. A solid pick.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But what were they when we were picking them in the mid rounds? Fournette was figuring to be in a timeshare with Ronald Jones. We had been told from a good source that Ronald Jones had the leg up in that competition. And James Conner definitely felt like the 1B to Chase Edmonds' 1A. And he didn't really take off until it was clear that Chase Edmonds was not as big a part of that offense
Starting point is 00:09:01 as we thought that he'd be. And he still was good for PPR. Edmonds was. Yeah. It was good for PPR. Edmonds was. Yeah. It was a productive backfield. No, okay. So we're hunting for what? Quarterbacks?
Starting point is 00:09:11 I mean, that's a great... I mean, that goes without saying. Like, when you get to the middle rounds, I hope you need a quarterback. And I hope you're drafting with people who... Even if half your league rushes to take quarterbacks, you're still going to have your pick of the litter from QB 6 through 15 to put on your roster, and you should be
Starting point is 00:09:32 able to find somebody that you love in around 6 through 8, but you should only take that quarterback if there isn't a player you love at another position along the way. I'm looking at those players first and foremost. A lot of receivers that I like in this range. Yeah, I think this is the prime receiver range. But the other thing I would say is this is not where I want to get my tight end. I've come up with a new tight end strategy for 2022, and I think it might catch on.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I wouldn't be surprised if you guys are saying it next year. But late or great. I want to get one of the first couple of guys or i'm going to wait until the very end of the draft i don't want to be using these mid-round picks on tight ends now did you say late or great on purpose because it's greater late you switched well i just came up with it adam so i think I think I know what it is. It's late or great. Right. I came up with great or late. Heath gives credit to someone else every time he brings it up. But there was one guy, though, that Dave had in his –
Starting point is 00:10:34 I asked you guys for some names of your favorite mid-round picks right now, and Dave said Dalton Schultz. Does Dalton Schultz break that mold? I mean, for Dave, I guess it would. For Heath, would you take a mid- Pardon me on Dalton Schultz. I think if you look at like what he did last year or what the guys in that range do, you're maybe looking at a 12 point per game kind of guy, right? Um, 12, 12 and a half fantasy points per game is the type of tight end, the TJ Hawkinson type that you'll find in that range. And the problem I have with that is there's a 10 point per game guy available on the waiver wire most weeks.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And that's right around tight end 13 or 14. We always say, like, if you're streaming tight end, you're going to get right in that 10 fantasy points per game range. In those same rounds are wide receivers that I have projected at 15 points per game, at three, four, five points better per game than what you can get in round 10, 11, or 12 at the wide receiver position. So I like Dalton Schultz. I think he's going to be a good starter and a fine middle-of-the-road tight end in fantasy, but I don't think the difference between him and the tight ends available in the double-digit rounds is as big as the difference between Brandon Cooks and Juju and guys like that and the wide receiver spread receivers that are available in rounds 11 12 13 the one thing that i'll push back on is that finding a 10 point ppr tight end off the waiver wire each week we talk like it's an easy thing to do it's easier to find that at wide receiver than it is a tight end i feel like if you're streaming tight ends you're you're hoping to get like eight ppr points out of your guy.
Starting point is 00:12:28 So there will be a point this season where you pick up Gerald Everett off the waiver wire because it's the Chargers high scoring offense. He's new there. You're going to hope that he scores a touchdown or maybe get you four for 40. I think Schultz is going to be better than that most weeks. In fact, last year, he had at least five catches in 10 of 17 games. And in the other seven games, he still got you at least 10 PPR points. It looks like two times. He had some duds in there. There's no question about it. But I think he gives you enough of an edge where taking him in the mid-rounds will feel
Starting point is 00:13:00 okay. You're not getting the power of a Travis Kelsey, but you're not spending the pick of a Travis Kelsey, but you're not spending the pick of a Travis Kelsey. And you're getting somebody who should outperform a late round tight end without necessarily having to spend the late round pick. You're taking them a little bit earlier. I think the value's fair if you're getting Schultz somewhere between six or eight. I think there's a potential for a lot better than what we saw from Schultz, and he was the number five tight end in fantasy per game. He was number four for the season in non-PPR, number three in full PPR, but we haven't really said.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I mean, there's no Amari Cooper. That's a huge deal. Whenever he got targeted, whenever he had five or more targets, he did well, basically. Now, he didn't get a ton of targets really until late in the season. He started to get like eight, nine, but usually he was capped out at eight. I think there may have been a nine or ten target game in there. But Schultz, you know, without Amari Cooper, again, I keep bringing it up.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Goddard gets A.J. Brown. Hawkinson gets Jamison Williams and the emergence of Amandra St. Brown the way he did at the end of last year. And D.J. Chark. And D.J. Chark. That's not nothing. He's better than the guys they had on the outside, I think. What else am I missing here?
Starting point is 00:14:08 Alberto, obviously. Oh, Zach Ertz. Well, there's no Hopkins for six games, but Zach Ertz gets Marquise Brown and Trey McBride. Schultz has clearly not been affected by who the Cowboys have brought in. He has benefited, I think, target-wise, from the absence of Amari Cooper,
Starting point is 00:14:23 who he was tied with in targets last year for second on the team. And remember, when Schultz broke out and had that big run, it started in the second half of week one when Gallup got hurt. So I agree with you, Adam, and it's probably the first point I should have made. But the dude gets a lot of targets. He's got a chance to finish first or second on the Cowboys and targets, and you can find them in the middle rounds. He'll be better than the tight end that you take with a late pick.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah. And I just wonder if, you know, both are true, right? The philosophy of this is not a great time for tight ends, but maybe Dalton Schultz is the exception. I don't think he feels that way.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I think Dave does. Where would you take Dalton Schultz then? I think I have him in round, uh, nine. I mean, I would jump on that if I could. Yeah, I have. I would love that. I have Goddard and Schultz both in round nine.
Starting point is 00:15:17 That would make me feel better about having to take Metamucil every morning. And I also forgot to take my Metamucil this morning. My wife's going to kill me. So Dave, what round would you take Schultz in? If I really couldn't find anybody that I liked in round six, I would consider it then.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I do think that's early. I will admit that it's early. I believe I have him ranked as a round seven pick. I know it's certainly not the same finding a top 12 tight end compared to finding a top 12 wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:15:46 So I'll just say this. Your chances of finding a... I'd say that based on recent trends, your chances of finding a top five tight end late are much better than your chances of finding a top 12 wide receiver, actually. When you look at top 12 wide receivers over the last four years,
Starting point is 00:16:04 there have only been eight drafted after round six, and four of them were last year. Jamar Chase obviously being one of them, Deebo Samuel being one of them, I think Jalen Waddell was one of them in full PPR, and there was one more, Hunter Renfro, I believe. But usually we get one or two a year after round six, so keep that in mind.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I mean, the wide receivers might look tempting, but his history says once you get past the first 60 picks or no first 72 picks around six, sorry, you're not going to find a ton of top 12 wide receivers. Whereas tight end, you get so many guys. Yeah. That, that, um, each of the past three seasons, three of the top six tight ends, uh, were drafted in round 10 or later, including some who weren't drafted at all. Alright, let's take a little break to talk about the schedule for next week. We're going
Starting point is 00:16:51 back to three episodes a week, sort of. Let's call it three and a half. We got Monday, Rookie Debates with a surprise guest. Not going to tell you who it is, but it's a great guest. Tuesday, Dynasty Talk. We're going to be ranking the rookies. Is the surprise guest in, too? Yeah, we're surprised. We're going to be ranking the rookies. Surprise guest then too?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah, surprise. We don't even know who it is yet but we will have a guest for that show as well. And then Thursday, we're going to do a mock draft recap and Thursday night, we're going to react to the schedule. The schedule comes out. We'll be crunching the numbers and whatever
Starting point is 00:17:23 and looking for matchups, good and bad and whatnot and talking about the schedule for a bit. That's Thursday nighting the numbers and whatever and looking for matchups, good and bad and whatnot, and talking about the schedule for a bit. That's Thursday night. So three and a half episodes. We'll call it four next week. News and notes. Pete Carroll says he does not see the Seahawks trading for a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:17:38 He also says he expects the Seahawks to extend DK Metcalf. Heath, what did you make of Pete Carroll's always reliable comments? Yeah, I did you make of Pete Carroll's always reliable comments? Yeah, I did not make of them, but I have accepted the fact that my projections no longer have a blank for the Seattle Seahawks quarterback. Drew Locke is locked in, you might say, as QB1 for the Seahawks, which led to yet another downgrade for DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett in my projections. Metcalf now wide receiver 28, Lockett wide receiver 31. And just for reference, for those of you who were wondering,
Starting point is 00:18:22 Drew Lock, I believe he's quarterback 32 no 31 still ahead of sam darnold um but yeah i i um this is discouraging if if the browns cut baker mayfield and seattle signs him then i would feel a little bit better about dk and lockett and i would understand maybe ranking dk a little higher than what projections are just because he possesses the upside he does. But I'm not sure either one of them are going to be top 24 wide receivers this year. Are we sure that it's going to be Drew Lock?
Starting point is 00:18:54 You think it might be Geno Smith? I think it could be Geno Smith. That would not make me feel any better. No, but at least he connected with DK in those four games. There's really three starts. But four games, if you include coming in against the Rams. DK was very good with Geno Smith in that half game against the Rams.
Starting point is 00:19:15 He was great against the Jaguars. As I recall, terrible against the Steelers. And he had that big play against the Saints. He had a BS, should have been offensive pass interference, like 95-yard touchdown or something. Still counted. Still got the points. Basically all of his production.
Starting point is 00:19:30 But I think when you look at him, he really wasn't very good with Geno Smith, who averaged 190 passing yards per game in three games. Dave, who would you rather it be for the sake of Metcalf and Lockett, Geno or Lock? Unfortunately, I bet we're going to see both of them. I think it's for the best. I like that Gino Smith's been there. He's done it for a few games.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I just do not have a lot of faith in Drew Locke, that quarterback. And, yeah, so one of the things that Heath mentioned was Pete Carroll said they're not going to trade for a wide receiver, or for a quarterback, I apologize. But if Baker Mayfield gets cut which could happen he's owed so much money that it's going to be a little bit difficult to trade him then that would change things obviously i just and this is maybe this won't work i don't know
Starting point is 00:20:16 what baker really could do about it other than give up his money but if i was the browns i would not cut baker mayfield until i was told how long Deshaun Watson's suspension is. That's exactly what's going on. If Watson's not going to play the first six weeks of the season, then Baker Mayfield is my week one starter. You think Baker Mayfield's cool with that? Because he's pretty pissed off. Okay, don't play and we won't pay you. Yeah, I guess, but it just seems like such an uncomfortable situation. Or play really well and maybe somebody who you want to go start for
Starting point is 00:20:48 will trade for you to be a starter. All right, next note, the Chargers signed linebacker Kyle Van Noy. He will now be on his third new team in three years. Yeah, but that's the thing. I don't know how great of a signing this is. No, he just adds depth for them, but they are great on all three levels of the defense. If they were not in the AFC West,
Starting point is 00:21:09 they would be the number one DST for fantasy. I almost forced myself to keep them out of the top 10 DSTs because I know that they're playing the Chiefs twice, Raiders twice, the Broncos twice. And they're the Chargers. They're probably going to have three injuries and they're going to give up a 97-yard touchdown pass with three seconds left. It's going to hurt their points and yards.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Greg Allman of The Athletic thinks it's more likely that Rob Gronkowski returns rather than retires. Ron Rivera compared Antonio Gibson and Brian Robinson to D'Angelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart, a backfield tandem in Carolina. And let me give you some numbers on those guys. They played seven seasons together in Carolina, which that's pretty remarkable, by the way,
Starting point is 00:21:57 for two running backs to be there in tandem and get a lot of carries, basically. There were some injuries, but for seven straight years. And in those seven seasons, D'Angelo Williams had 1,167 carries in 88 games. And Jonathan Stewart had 1,041 carries, roughly a hundred fewer, just, you know, roughly in 90 games and two more games. So that was a pretty even split. D'Angelo had 41 touchdowns. Stewart had 30 touchdowns. Of course, that means this is really more just an interesting factoid. It doesn't mean it's going to be like that.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I think we need to have a long talk at some point about Antonio Gibson and how we feel about him because there's plenty of debate going on within the industry about whether Brian Robinson should really even impact him, whether Washington even sees him as the running back pass this year. I wouldn't say mixed signals from Washington. The signals have been fairly universally aligned in that we want to have a lot more running backs on the team besides Antonio Gibson. They went to great lengths to keep JD McKissick after he'd already agreed to a
Starting point is 00:23:00 deal with the Bills. And then they make this pick after having breese hall and ken walker both in for top 30 visits and they didn't didn't have very many draft picks so i'm i like i said i i dropped gibson out of my top 20 running backs in both redraft and dynasty yeah i don't know if now's the time unless he ends up being a mid-round pick. But yes, you're right. He's an interesting player. And could you imagine just what the fantasy community would be thinking
Starting point is 00:23:31 if they had drafted Brees Hall instead of Brian Robinson? Well, it'd be over. I'm sorry. If they drafted Isaiah Spiller, they couldn't have taken Brees Hall. If they drafted Isaiah Spiller instead of Brian Robinson.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Well, they could have. They could have. Not where they took Robinson. Right? So that's what I'm Robinson. Well, they could have. They could have. Not where they took Robinson, right? So that's what I'm saying. No, of course not. I think that people have doubts about Brian Robinson. They probably would have been more excited about Spiller than Robinson in that spot.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I think that the problem is that McKissick really caps his receiving upside. And Spiller, that's why I wonder, I don't think they went and got Spiller because I think Spiller may play more of that role. Robinson could take away the touchdowns. And the touchdowns are basically the only thing that separate Antonio Gibson from Clyde Edwards-Alaire
Starting point is 00:24:17 over their first two years in the NFL. Robinson can catch too. I mean, you might classify him the same way as kenneth walker whereas you know he didn't do a ton of it in college i don't remember exactly how many catches he had but he can do it but if you were to project a role he's going to play this season wouldn't you think short yardage that would not be the rule short yardage he's gonna he's gonna take work off of gibson could could be short yardage, though. Absolutely could be.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Okay, sorry. I think Dave was disagreeing with a different part of that. Yeah, so you guys agree. I thought you were going to say disagreeing with a different person. That's not on the podcast. You guys agree he could definitely, Brian Robinson could get some short yardage stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Yeah, okay. All right, and I agree that it's time to take a little break. When we come back, we're going to talk about the favorite mid-round picks for Heath and Dave. I'm going to tell Heath why I don't believe in what he's about to take a little break. When we come back, we're going to talk about the favorite mid-round picks for Heath and Dave. I'm going to tell Heath why I don't believe in what he's about to tell us
Starting point is 00:25:09 about his first three guys on the list. Well, that's, Heath's going to say, well, it's a fact. It's going to be a weird argument. So anyway, we'll be right back on Fantasy Football today.
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Starting point is 00:25:53 mentions in his favorite mid-round picks i like i said on fantasy football today in five i believe that nfc which is where we're looking that their ADP data was hacked and is not accurate. Because I just, how are Michael Thomas and Brandon Cooks mid-round picks? It makes no sense to me. They don't go anywhere near there in our drafts.
Starting point is 00:26:15 They went in rounds three and four in the draft we did on Tuesday. Juju is the other one. That one I could see. But yes, technically you're right, Heath. The values for Juju Smith-Schuster, Brandon Cooks, and Michael Thomas are great. They are mid-round picks. but yes technically you're right heath the values for juju smith schuster brandon cooks and michael thomas are are great they are mid-round picks i for some reason i don't feel like i don't feel
Starting point is 00:26:32 like cooks and thomas will be once we get to draft season but uh i don't know what else to say because you are technically right they are mid-round picks so it's juju smith schuster brandon cooks and michael thomas i think michael thomas is the one who I would agree with you doesn't belong here, but he's here. So we should at least mention him because if anybody gets to late round five, early round six, and Michael Thomas is available, they should take him. I don't understand why you don't think that Brandon Cooks is going to be available in round six or round seven. Brandon is going to be available in round six or round seven. Brandon cooks is always available in round six or round seven. Then he has 1100 yards and seven or eight touchdowns and finishes as a borderline or mid range number two wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And then the next year he's available in round six or round seven. Again, that's just what Brandon cooks does. All right. Okay. I can buy it. I can buy it. He's going 74th.
Starting point is 00:27:23 So I can buy that. And I just think like, if, if this is real, and especially the Juju one and the Cooks one, if we want to forget about Michael Thomas and just put the little asterisk there saying, if he's a mid-round pick and you draft him. We all agree on that, I think. But if I can have Cooks and Juju in the 6-7 ranges, that can really, I think, make me feel more comfortable taking Kelsey or Andrews at the 1-2 turn. If I could get my number one running back or number one wide receiver and one of the two top tight ends and then just go best player available for a couple rounds,
Starting point is 00:28:03 knowing that I've got my number two and number three wide receiver there at the six seven turn or it wouldn't be the six seven term but in round six and round seven and i feel great about that that's a great point all right i don't know that we need to expand too much on that like the opportunities you still like juju in round six ish with the addition of Sky Moore? Yeah, I'm not as certain of Sky Moore's role in his first year with the Chiefs. I don't think it's going to be a high-volume one as a rookie. I did not think he... I thought upside-wise,
Starting point is 00:28:35 he was very close to that top tier of wide receivers, but he lacks some polish, especially in his route running. He can do some things on a low-volume basis where the Chiefs create opportunities for him, maybe some jet sweeps, maybe some flies, like just get him open because teams aren't paying attention. But I don't think there's a scenario where Sky Moore in year one
Starting point is 00:28:57 turns into the number one wide receiver beating coverage that's actually paying attention to him. All right, we's get Dave involved here as we talk about our next group of teams. Dave might disagree with me on Skymore. That might be a good place, but... Well, I think that between Skymore, McCole Hardman, and MVS, and it could be at different points in the year,
Starting point is 00:29:17 they're each going to have a turn being the, you know, a fantasy... They're each going to have a turn being the third option behind Kelsey and Juju, right? Right. That's the whole idea. But they'll have weeks where they're good and people will gravitate toward them and then they won't be good anymore and then they will drop them.
Starting point is 00:29:35 So I think all those receivers are, you know, close to double-digit round material. More you might grab in round nine just because of the hype with him. And I think he's a good player but if it really it's really going to come down to two factors one how well are the chiefs going to run the ball when they decide they want to run the ball and two how our defense is going to play them and defenses might disrespect more hardman and mvs and think that they can't
Starting point is 00:30:03 beat them deep and they'll play a different type of defense than what they did last year and then Mahomes will take shots downfield we kind of want that if we've got Patrick Mahomes who do you think's not on the field week one I mean well I don't not on the field I don't think you're gonna play four wide receivers it's gonna be sky more early it's not gonna be four it'll be three wide receivers right you're counting kelsey is a wider so kelsey's a tight end right so it's gonna be a running back kelsey juju's gonna be on the field mvs is gonna be on the field with that money they just i think so too and i think hardman will probably be there i think it's hardman versus sky more well it's possible that i think if you look at the snap counts for pringle robinson andman, you probably were looking at the three of them were rotating. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:47 And so it might be a situation like that. That's my read on it. And that's what's going to happen. Pringle sort of rose to the top. But yeah, I mean, they'll rotate. I don't know what week one will be like, but they have some depth. They'll rotate.
Starting point is 00:30:58 But if you give those names again from last year, Hardman, Pringle, the Marcus Robinson. Right. And throw Josh Gordon in there. He had a couple of opportunities. He's still on the team. None of them were ever reliable for fantasy. No.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And you might start Hardman in a league where you start four receivers and extra flexes, something like that. All right, so listen, you talked about the Chiefs running the ball. So let's talk about three running backs that Heath highlighted here, going between 89th overall and
Starting point is 00:31:25 97th overall. Clyde Edwards-Ziller, Miles Sanders and Chase Edmonds. How do you view them, Heath? Clyde Edwards-Ziller, Miles Sanders, Chase Edmonds. I like Clyde the best. Edmonds second and Sanders third in full PPR.
Starting point is 00:31:42 But I think they're all way undervalued at this cost. And it kind of, I kind of like what you said about the wide receivers. I feel about these running backs. Like they're not really going to be there. Are they, but I think there's a chance that they are there at the five,
Starting point is 00:31:54 six turn or in round six. I don't think they'll be there quite this late. I think there's a chance that this is the best fantasy season of Clyde's career with Ronald Jones taking some of the early downs work and nobody taking him off the fields on passing zones. If that's what happens. Right. And as the team's currently constructed, that's like maybe they bring Darrell Williams back and all of a sudden Clyde gets squeezed out completely. But I think having spent a first round pick on him, you might want to give him one season where you feature him in the way that he was used before you drafted him.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Instead of trying to make him between the tackles rusher and letting somebody else handle the passing downs. So that's what I'm hopeful for. That's what I'm hopeful for too, but I was hopeful for that before the 2020 season. That's why I remember having Edwards Hilaire ranked as high as I did when he was a rookie. There's gotta be something there that told the coaches do not put him in that role. And I don't know what it is. I think he couldn't pass protect early in his career.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Well, and so how did he do pass protecting in the second half of last year? Did he even get a lot of opportunities to do that? I don't know if he did. And so unless he really improves in that i i would imagine that he's a candidate to get squeezed and someone else gets that role won't be ronald jones jones has had that opportunity jones is a two down running back and if he's good he's going to take edwards hilaire off the field in those two downs i think that clyde and Miles Sanders probably had bigger workloads than people might
Starting point is 00:33:27 realize before their injuries. So Clyde in his first four games before he got hurt, he averaged five yards per carry at 58 carries. He was on pace for 246 carries. Not enormous, but it's not bad at all. Miles Sanders was really weird. They weren't possessing the ball. They were losing. They were 2-5, I think, in their first seven games. They were throwing so much. So his carries were really low, but he had almost every running back carry.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I don't think there's really been a time in the last two seasons where Miles Sanders has not been the lead running back. Before they decided to go all Ravens on us, they just didn't run the ball very much with their running backs. So I, you know, he's clearly the best guy in my opinion. And I know he scored zero touchdowns last year, but the other three running backs combined for 12 rushing touchdowns and 10 of those 12 were after we're we're week seven or later. So it's not like no running back can score a rushing touchdown on Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:34:28 It just was extremely unlucky that Miles Sanders never was that guy. Jalen Hurts is definitely going to take some, but that doesn't mean the other guys won't get rushing touchdowns. I think the key will come in, what does he get to do, if anything, in the passing game? Yeah, and they barely threw to their running backs when they changed their offense, but we expect them to throw the ball more.
Starting point is 00:34:46 He's going to have to compete with Gainwell and maybe Scott there. I don't know. Are they top 24 guys for you? Or are they number three? Clyde is the top 24 guy. Edmonds and Sanders are just outside. This is full PPR.
Starting point is 00:35:02 But I think Edmonds is just going to be the clear best running back in Miami. What happens when Mostert gets hurt? Right. That's when Edmonds becomes the clear lead running back in Miami. Although there will be
Starting point is 00:35:17 somebody else there. I think he's a cinch to get all the high value touches when that happens. Jalen Hurts was the quarterback that you highlighted, Heath. You have him as QB4. Bottom line is there's going to be some quarterback in this range that any fantasy drafter loves. For you, it's Jalen Hurts.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah, I think I don't expect the same leap that we got from Josh Allen from Stephon Diggs, but I do expect a leap. It's much easier to be an accurate passer when you have wide receivers who have three to four yards of separation because you don't have to be near as accurate. And so I would anticipate a big increase in his passing efficiency, a big increase in his pass attempts, and he's also going to be one of the best rushing quarterbacks in the NFL. He absolutely has QB1 overall upside. Wow. Do you think he has that, Dave? Because I think, what, you have him 13th on Jalen Hurts? I think it's not. I have a hard time believing he's got QB1 upside. but does he have QB five upside?
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah. I think that he's one of many quarterbacks that has QB five upside. I'm still, I agree that they're going to throw more. How could they not? I think they threw the ball 42% of the time from week eight on. It's definitely low and lowest in the nfl from that point on but they really leaned on the run game and hurts is a part of that and that's great you mentioned all the touchdowns that running backs had in philadelphia not named mile sanders well look at the touchdowns hurts had hurts was stealing them from mile sanders and he'll continue to do
Starting point is 00:36:58 that so that rushing potential is great the passing upside still worries me, even though they've got AJ Brown there. And Brown does seem like the exact type of receiver who can help Jalen Hurts pick up more yards. But I still have concerns, especially about deep throws, decision-making when that first read isn't open, stuff like that, that could lead to Hurts disappointing as a passer, which means he'd have to make up a lot for it as a rusher. Okay, let's go to Dave's guys. So you talked about Dalton Schultz. I'm glad that was a good discussion we had early on in the show,
Starting point is 00:37:34 if you want to hear it. And that was in our philosophies section. Anyway, A.J. Dillon is one of your running backs, and the other four are wide receivers. So A.J. Dillon goes ahead of Clyde and Sanders by about a round and a half, I'd say. Let's see, Clyde is 89th and Dillon was 71st overall.
Starting point is 00:37:52 End of round six for A.J. Dillon. Does that feel like a good time for A.J. Dillon? I know it doesn't sound like it's a good time for A.J. Dillon, but that's right around when you should expect to see him. And if you get him in round seven, call it a small win, but I've got them back to back to back to back in my PPR rankings,
Starting point is 00:38:10 Miles Sanders, Clyde, Chase Edmonds, AJ Dillon. And if you look at those numbers that the Packers had, they're running backs when they were splitting, following the knee injury to Aaron Jones, when he came back,
Starting point is 00:38:23 Dylan was getting more carries two more per game than Aaron Jones. He wasn't catching the ball as much. He was still getting some targets, but he wasn't catching the ball like Aaron Jones. And the construction of that offense in Green Bay suggests that they will lean on their running backs considerably more than they have in the past without necessarily having to give them an overload of work
Starting point is 00:38:44 because there's two really good ones there. So I think he's one of the best number three running backs that you can draft. It's funny because I have Edmonds, Clyde, and Sanders all ahead of Dylan. They're all going 20 spots after Dylan. And I still agree with Dave that Dylan's a good value where he's going. So, yes, I think all four of those guys are good values. I would take the three I said, which I said it first. So, like, we always have, it's a race to see who gets the email in first
Starting point is 00:39:14 and gets to pick the best guys. But, no, I think Dylan's an excellent choice as a mid-round value as well. And, listen, if something happened to Aaron Jones, who's a 27-year-old running back. Oh, you're talking about a top five jones who's a 27 year old running back and oh you're talking about a top five running back could be a top five running back but let's take all a terrible pecker's offense let's take all let's take all four of those guys and let's say another running back in the backfield gets hurt so ronald jones pick up eagles guy um aaron jones and uh pick of Eagles guy. Aaron Jones and who am I?
Starting point is 00:39:49 Dylan has the best upside if somebody gets. Oh, and Raheem Mostert. Yeah. Rank the upsides. Dylan is one. To me, it comes down between Sanders and Edwards-Elair. I think I might lean toward Clyde. The problem is I think the Eagles will just find somebody to take some of that work away from.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I kind of feel that way about Clyde, though. Edmonds should be, too. Derek Gore was doing it to Clyde last year. So put Edmonds, too. Come on, let's go. Edmonds, too. I think Edmonds is, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Come on, Dave. Not ready to do it. Okay. You know, one of the things I said earlier was that Edmonds would get high-value touches. He's barely gotten touches near the goal line in his career. So the only thing that would help him out is that he's on a new team, new coaching staff, philosophical differences from what the Cardinals had. Maybe that helps Edmonds get that role if it presented itself.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And it probably will because Raheem Mostert isn't staying healthy for 17. Okay, let's talk about four wide receivers here that could go in the 80-ish range. Adam Thielen's ADP is 86th. Gabriel Davis, 83rd. Alan Lazard and Traylon Burks. I'm not going to get their ADPs because I've been looking at average draft position
Starting point is 00:40:57 since April 1st. So obviously, Traylon Burks, you know, it's much different now. But Alan Lazard, Traylon Burks, Gabriel Davis, and Adam Thielen. These are four wide receivers that you like in the mid-rounds, Dave. Break it down. They all have different qualities that I think make them interesting for fantasy. And those qualities are what should make you gravitate toward taking them.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Thielen's definitely going to be unpopular. He's old. He gets hurt every year. But the man is a red zone machine for Kirk Cousins, and he'll continue to be that as long as he's healthy in Minnesota. And I think the Vikings offense, we've talked about this already, really since Kevin O'Connell got hired. I think they become a little bit more aggressive. They're certainly going to be a little more innovative, maybe a little less run heavy than they were under Mike Zimmer when he was the head coach.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I like Thielen a lot. I think he can still pick up a lot of catches and a lot of touchdowns to go along with it. Traylon Burks, we talked about his opportunity in Tennessee to go and get 120 plus targets. It's a Titans offense that won't throw a lot, but there's still a ton of opportunity there because A.J. Brown no longer on the team. Robert Woods, the number two receiver. He's 30 years old coming off of an ACL. There's questions about how explosive and how available he will be compared to Burks, and there's already the report from ESPN that says that they're going to force-feed Burks. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:42:15 He's their Derrick Henry at wide receiver. Gabriel Davis should break out with Buffalo. He's going to be their number two wide receiver. Scored a ton of touchdowns in the playoffs. Everybody knows this. He was also very explosive. Before the show, Adam asked me to get the explosive rate for wide receivers last year because he had a feeling
Starting point is 00:42:34 about Alan Lazard. Well, Gabriel Davis was number two in explosive catch rate, meaning percentage of his plays that were good for 16 or more yards. Second among wide receivers with at least 40 catches, Gabriel Davis was. He's got room to improve. Coaches have been talking him up.
Starting point is 00:42:50 He's going to play a ton. He's a big play machine. I love Gabriel Davis. I think he's absolutely worth taking early in this range. And then there's Lazard. Packers signed Sammy Watkins. We overlook Lazard. They draft two rookie wide receivers. We overlook Lazard. They draft two rookie wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:43:06 We overlook Lazard. I don't think we need to overlook Lazard anymore. And he was, what was he on? Was he 16th or 19th in explosive rate last year? So Dave sent me a link that I could not interpret at all. So I forgot to ask you. Yeah, it was, I really couldn't, could not understand what I was looking at.
Starting point is 00:43:23 So you tell me. Okay. You're a non-analytics nerd. And do I have it in front of me because I'm working off of a different computer? I do have it in front of me. Alan Lazard last year was 16th in the NFL with a 21.9 explosive play rate. Higher than Devontae Adams. It can't be the only reason why you take Alan Lazard.
Starting point is 00:43:48 That's not enough. But you've got to figure his target share goes up because Devontae Adams isn't there anymore. Rodgers is reliable on him. He's a big dude. He's not necessarily... Like, I saw this explosive number, and I kind of went crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Yeah, I was surprised. Because he's not a burner by any stretch. But he's put in position to make plays, and I don't think he'll get number one receiver coverage. I think teams are going to try and focus on stopping the run and play action is going to be Alan Lazard's best friend, especially in the red zone because of his size. He had eight touchdowns last year.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Rank them. Rank these four. I'm going to put Gabriel Davis at the top of this list. No, I'm not. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. Thielen? I'm going to put Thielen at the top of the list. And then I think I'll go Burks and Davis, but they're really close. And maybe if I've got the stones, I'll put Davis ahead of Burks.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I probably should because Burks is a rookie. And then Lazard brings up the rear, but I think he might be the best value of them all. Yeah, I'd go Thielen, round break, Gabe, Lazard, round break, Burks. That's almost exactly how they were drafted in the draft we did on Tuesday, but it was Thielen, round break,
Starting point is 00:44:58 Davis, Burks, round break, and then Lazard was the last. He went in round nine. Burks and Davis went two picks apart in round seven. And Dave Richard had the last pick of round five and the first pick of round six. And we're talking about players who were going to go in the mid rounds,
Starting point is 00:45:16 which we defined as round six through nine-ish. So Dave took Adam Thielen with the last pick of round five instead of the first pick of round six, rendering this entire exercise pointless. Who did you take in the first pick of round six? Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert. Well, everybody knows that six through nine
Starting point is 00:45:37 is where you want to get your quarterback. You don't want to reach into the first five rounds for a quarterback. Exactly. If you had taken Herbert 60th overall instead of 61st, it would have been a reach. Yeah. I would have been disappointed. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:45:49 So, Gabriel Davis, some of my favorite stats. He's had seven... Oh, sorry. He had seven or more targets in two of three games without Emmanuel Sanders and eight targets
Starting point is 00:46:02 in a game that Sanders left early with an injury. So, if you want to asterisk at that, four games that Sanders left early with an injury. So if you want to insert that, that four games that Sanders left early with an injury or didn't play at all, Gabriel Davis had seven or more targets. And that's a huge deal. This is a guy who's had three or fewer targets in half of his NFL games, half of his regular season NFL games. His touchdown rate is also one of the most... Is it the highest in football, Heath? Touchdowns per target? Well, I doubt it was... What was his touchdowns per target last year?
Starting point is 00:46:31 He had 63 targets and 6 touchdowns. No, there were players who were over 10% last year. Okay. He had 7 touchdowns on 62 targets as a rookie. And... Oh, career. Well, yeah. I mean, it's up there. He's had basically almost any time he gets four or more targets.
Starting point is 00:46:54 16 games with four or more targets, he's had 11 touchdowns in those games. It's crazy. I would anticipate his touchdown rate is going to go down this year if he has the success we're hoping for. Yeah, but many more targets. Which maybe sounds like it's a weird thing to say, but it's true. All right, it's also a mailbag day today,
Starting point is 00:47:12 so let's get into that. We got Apple Podcast questions, we got some emails. Start with Apple Podcast. Stafiki, give up Tyreek Hill, get DeAndre Hopkins and a 2023 first-round rookie pick. I don't think it's enough for Hill. I've really downgraded DeAndre Hopkins because he's an older wide receiver
Starting point is 00:47:40 who also now is not going to be great for you this year. But the difference between Hill and Hopkins for me is smaller than what I would project for a 2023 first. I think what would probably determine this for me is looking at that other person's roster. And if I think they're one of the three or four best teams in the league, I probably wouldn't do this deal. If I don't, I would.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I'm starting to assume that the people who are willing to give up first-round picks next year are people who have a really good dynasty roster. And they're looking to make that one trade to put them over the top. If all fantasy managers were competent, that would be true. But...
Starting point is 00:48:23 Yeah, I know two fantasy football managers that are so bad that they can't even tank. They try to tank and they end up... No, one of them did a great job tanking. The other one did good enough. I've been looking because I think I have five picks in the top 18 of our rookie draft, and 18 is right about where I think the cutoff is.
Starting point is 00:48:43 So I think it's worked out okay. I'm looking to trade out of number two and try to get a pick in the top seven. Oh, okay. Now you're trying to trade out of two. I remember when I wanted to. Well, you were offering David Montgomery, and that was when I thought I had a chance of being good this year.
Starting point is 00:49:00 But then all of my top three wide receivers got worse in the month since then. I don't recall offering Montgomery for number two. No, you said what would you have to give in addition to Montgomery for number two? I said that? Yeah, because I was offering 10 for Montgomery. Yeah, I wasn't going to take that. No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:18 You were not. And I was not going to give you two for Montgomery, and I still wouldn't. All right, guys, back to the Apple Podcast questions. This is from Rob in Ontario. Hey, Willie, Jace, Phil, Cy, and Phil, I think. I don't know who those people are. Thanks for an entertaining show.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Okay, I have a strategy question for my 12-team standard scoring Dynasty League. One QB, two running backs, two wide receivers, and a flex. I have picks 111- 211 in the 2020 rookie only draft my roster is mahomes mixon jacobs dylan daryl henderson michelle michael carter remandre stevenson hopkins digs cooper and then chanelton charke darren Waller is a very good team. I'm considering offering Hopkins and both of this year's picks, 1-11
Starting point is 00:50:08 and 2-11, for a 2023 first rounder. I believe I can compete this year with the players I would still have and would pick up an early pick next year. What are your thoughts? Kind of similar to what we were just talking about with the Tyreek trade.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Let's go back to what Heath said. Is the team that you're trading with going to be good because you give them these picks and player? Are they going to be mediocre to sucky and you get a really good first round pick? That's a lot to give up, though. Oh, I don't think this is a lot to give up for a first next year. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:50:45 I mean, you're probably giving up like George Pickens and Trey McBride and DeAndre Hopkins for a first next year. You think McBride's lasting till late round two? I was just going with where I have him. Wow. Maybe he won't. I'd love that if that's where you're getting McBride. Let's see. Pick number 23, Wandale Robinson. I have Trey McBride. Let's see. Pick number 23.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Wandale Robinson. I have Trey McBride at 22. Damn. Sniped. Yeah, you were sniped. Yeah, I always talk about how good the 2023 class looks, but a lot of that is quarterbacks. I don't know if you don't want to come back.
Starting point is 00:51:23 There's plenty of receivers and running backs as well. I would make the offer and hope he accepts. Okay. From Charlie Barron. I have Mahomes. They have Murray and want to trade me straight across. Your opinion? I want to decline or counter to Murray plus a wide receiver running back.
Starting point is 00:51:38 So anyway, he has Mahomes and they have Murray. Who would you rather have? And if you say Mahomes, would you then say, all right, fine, throw in a running back or receiver, and we're talking here? Depends on who the running back and receiver is. Yes, I know that. Someone good. It's got to be somebody good.
Starting point is 00:51:56 No, I'm not making the deal. How much of a difference is there between Murray and Mahomes? I think there's considerable difference because what happens if Kyler Murray and the Cardinals don't have a good year this year? Is he on a different team next year? Almost certainly he'll have a different coach next year. So give me a running back or wide receiver
Starting point is 00:52:16 that you would take with Murray to give up Mahomes. Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, I wouldn't need that much. How about Josh Jacobs? I wouldn't need that much. How about Josh Jacobs? I wouldn't. I mean, I would take Murray and Josh Jacobs from Holmes. Yes. I don't think I should take that much.
Starting point is 00:52:35 I guess. Okay. I guess I would take Jacobs with him because I'm worried about if Jacobs has a bad year this year, same thing with him. Where does he end up? They just drafted Samir White, new coaching staff. They're going to get Jacobs off the books next year. Didn't give him his fifth year option.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Okay, emails, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. I think Mahomes is one of the safest players you could have on your fantasy team in Dynasty. That's true. I don't know the name of the emailer here, but he says... It's Bob. Dear Jesse, Mike, Justin, and Tony. Hint.
Starting point is 00:53:14 They're his best friends. That's not a hint. That's the answer. Okay. But I didn't know if that was like a pop culture reference and they still... It was like they were his best friends. Like they were on Friends or something?
Starting point is 00:53:24 I don't know. But no, they're just his best friends. I have a question. that's a lot of best friends by the way that's impressive four best friends is that impressive or is that fraudulent if you have four best friends you had no best friends i think in truth i i think if i think jesse's really his best friend as he listed him first so So, sorry, Mike, Justin, and Tony. You're 1A, B, and C. Or you're 1B, C, and D. I have a question. What year three or year four wide receivers
Starting point is 00:53:51 will be considered a bust this year? Like, Judy doesn't do good with Wilson. Is he officially a bust? Okay, so you're asking from a career standpoint and not a redraft standpoint this year. It's put up or shut up, basically. And this is Juan. Juan is the emailer, by the way. Judy's the best guess.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I think Mooney could be up there. But he was a... Yeah, I struggle with that because he was a fifth-round pick. He's already done more than you could have rightfully expected when he was drafted. Yeah, but maybe we've seen the best from him. I don't know. Maybe not. I don't know what's going to happen because that team's looking ugly. But that was the first name that I thought of.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Christian Kirk? Yeah. What year is he? Is this his fourth year? Oh, it might be his fifth. If you reach free agency, then it's probably his fifth year. Yeah. The three-fourth thing is kind of a weird designator
Starting point is 00:54:50 because there's more, I think, year two guys. Maybe Brandon Ayuk? That's a good one. That's a good one. All right, good job, Heath. You carried the team. You made your two best friends, Adam and Dave, very happy, very proud. From Jenna, I'm in a 12-team Superflex tight end premium dynasty
Starting point is 00:55:12 league. I might be competing, but only with a few tweaks and the usual luck. I just sold David Montgomery for Derek Carr, super flex. Yep. And now I might take a run at winning. I'm shopping pick 103, and the Gibson manager is interested, but I'm thinking of pairing 103 and DK Metcalf, so pairing it with DK Metcalf, and a third-round pick to get George Kittle, Hollywood Brown, and 1.9. What do you think about that?
Starting point is 00:55:46 She said she was trying to win. 1.3, DK Metcalf, and a third-round pick for Kittle, Hollywood Brown, and 1.9. I think 1.9 in Superflex could be a very excellent place to be as long as somebody takes picket in the first eight picks because then you're getting one of the top eight and i like that a lot um i'm not sure there'll be an enormous
Starting point is 00:56:11 difference between one three and one nine in that scenario um but dk's a lot better than hollywood and i'd rather have 103 than kittle dk's a lot better than Hollywood this year, but you just said that you have him. Not this year. Right. So she wants to win. Jenna wants to win. So, you know. But if she's got DK Metcalf in 103,
Starting point is 00:56:33 she's still got a squad that can compete. And she can go in with the intention. She can do what I did last year. I went into the year intending to compete. And then I got a little unlucky early on. I said, nuts to this. And I started setting terrible lineups and winning. I would not trade the 103 for Gibson.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Let's do that first. No. I would not. Agreed. But it's funny. I bet. I wonder if we would have said, yes, you should have done that six months ago. Well, I think we might have.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I think things were different six months ago. They were, yeah. All right, so it doesn't sound like you guys are too enthused about this. I like the Kittle idea more because you're tied in to where you really need help. I'm really not convinced in a 12-team league you're ready to be making trades to try to win. I mean... All right. She did give her lineup.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Let's hear the lineup. Maybe that'll... Because I have an idea. An alternative idea. Dak Prescott, and then she'll either start Derek Carr or Daniel Jones. Who would you guys start? Carr but Jones could be in for a pretty decent year no
Starting point is 00:57:49 Waddle, Metcalf, Amari Cooper that's excellent Aaron Jones, Pollard CEH Ronald Jones and no tight end, Ingram and Tunyon you know, not good tight ends I think if you make that trade for Kittle,
Starting point is 00:58:06 you're going to get in the playoffs. I think you stand, Pat, and hope to get Hall or Walker at 103. I was going to suggest maybe offer 103 for Kittle and 109. She has the worst kind of team in Dynasty. It's just... It's old. But it's in the middle.
Starting point is 00:58:29 It's in the middle. You're not getting picked 101 and you're not winning. Did you say 12 teams? Yeah. I bet she's closer to the top than the middle. If I had this team, I would be probably... I just began a teardown of a pretty similar team. In the past week, I've
Starting point is 00:58:46 traded Stephon Diggs, Cooper Cup, Aaron Jones, and Darren Waller. Wow! Put a pin in that, because we've got to hear about that on another show. I want to know what you've got for them. Let's read more emails here. This is from... Another one where I don't have... No, I do have it. King Hassan
Starting point is 00:59:01 from the largest city west of the Mississippi River. Los Angeles. Yeah, it's got to be Los Angeles, right? Hey, Chuck, Ed, Kyle, and Baxter. Hmm. I don't know, but I feel like I should. I'm stressing out.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I'm on the clock in my Dynasty 12 team Superflex PPR league. This email was sent a few days ago, so hopefully he's made. Hopefully there's no clock. I have the pick. I have pick five. I'm deciding between Jamison Williams and Malik Willis.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Oh, come on. Just go Jamison Williams. Yeah. Jamison Williams. Yeah. All right. From Bobby Garrett,
Starting point is 00:59:38 Wilson fell to me at one Oh nine. What? Excellent. I was offered a 2023., a 2023 third, a 2024 second, and a 2020, and he put 2023 third again. It's probably 2024 third. So a first and a third next year and a second and a third in 2024 for Garrett Wilson.
Starting point is 01:00:02 The first should be early as his team is not competitive. Do it. Do it. Do it. This is from Andrew. I just want to say that the grunting intro is hilarious and I laugh every time it's brought up. Alright, cool. Same.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I went back and watched my acting to the video yesterday. I nailed it. I got to give myself credit. You did. That was a good job. Just like you nailed Leonard Fournette and Chase Edmonds last year, Dave. It was a big show for you.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Yeah. I'm just full of goodness. Oh, Chuck, Ed, Kyle, and Baxter is last man standing. You ever see that show? Yeah, I have. It was a show that I watched. I was like, this is really funny, and I stopped watching for some reason. A lot of shows
Starting point is 01:00:49 like that. I liked it better before they killed off Al, but Oh, I thank you for that. I didn't know they killed off anyone, and who says I wasn't going to go back and watch it? But you also thought that they killed off... You didn't get the joke. Oh, no, I didn't know they killed off anyone. Who says I wasn't going to go back and watch it?
Starting point is 01:01:05 But you also thought that they killed off... You didn't get the joke. Oh, no, I didn't get the joke. What was the joke? Who's the lead character of Last Man Standing? Will Forte? Is that the same show? No. Oh, what's
Starting point is 01:01:20 Last Man Standing? Tim Allen's on Last Man Standing. What's the show I'm thinking of where like the world ends and there's only a few people left and one of them is Will Forte last man on earth is that a show I think that's YouTube help me out here
Starting point is 01:01:36 okay I think it's called last man on earth yeah yeah that was what I was thinking of I'm sorry with Will Forte that was really funny. It's still a good joke. Okay. Well, is there an email to read or are we done?
Starting point is 01:01:49 No, we're done. No, no, there's an email dynasty, super flex PPR, 12 teams. We start to flex and two receipt,
Starting point is 01:01:58 whatever. I have picked one Oh four. What should I do with pick one Oh four? So it is super flex and he has zach wilson daniel jones and kirk cousins he has swift dobbins clyde and zeke jefferson chase metcalf gabe davis and renfro and kyle pitts receivers he's got a glaring need at quarterback with a really good team otherwise i would go running back. Yeah, you're not taking a quarterback just because you need one.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Not unless you want to make your problems worse. Yeah. You've got to try to trade this pick and maybe even a first next year for a really good quarterback and go win the damn league. You've got Swift, Dobbins, Clyde, Elliott, Jefferson, Chase, DK, Pitts. Find a way to get some help at quarterback and go win the league. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Yeah, good idea. And by the way, we're going to end on a YouTube comment. Greg Harrell says, the last man on earth was great. Thank you, Greg. Thank you very much. How would anybody know if he's the last man on earth? Who's filming it there's there are a few other people who
Starting point is 01:03:08 who sprout up throughout the season okay that's it for today's show and for the week we'll talk to you on Monday with a special surprise guest you won't know
Starting point is 01:03:19 until the show starts maybe for Dave and Heath I'm Adam and we'll talk to you on Monday have a great weekend everybody happy Mother's'm Adam, and we'll talk to you on Monday. Have a great weekend, everybody. Happy Mother's Day as well, and we'll see you later.

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