Fantasy Football Today - FFT Dynasty - Superflex Startup Mock Draft 1.0! (03/29 Fantasy Football Today Dynasty Podcast)

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

Looking to dominate your fantasy league just like your redraft league? Look no further than Fantasy Football Today Dynasty hosted by our very own Heath Cummings! Download and follow Fantasy Football Today Dynasty on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you find your podcasts.  Welcome to our Dynasty Superflex Mock Draft! We debate between Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes (1:30) for the first pick, while an unexpected twist unfolds as Trevor Lawrence (9:00) falls out of Round 2. The tight end landscape sees a shakeup with Kyle Pitts (17:50) emerging as the second TE off the board, raising eyebrows and expectations alike. Bryce Young (24:40) sparks intriguing discussions while the spotlight shifts to Will Levis (27:15) and his potential impact. DJ Moore's (30:00) ranking stirs up debate, while George Pickens' (34:01) outlook captures attention as drafters weigh risk and reward. The Steelers quarterback dilemma continues with Russell Wilson facing off against Justin Fields (36:00) in a battle of experience versus youth. As the draft progresses, seasoned veterans find their place as old wide receivers (41:20) get their due recognition. The fall of TJ Hockenson (43:20) prompts speculation about his value and potential steals in the later rounds. With the first ten rounds complete, it's time for a comprehensive (45:30) team review, analyzing strengths, weaknesses, and strategies moving forward. And for those seeking hidden gems, we delve into deep sleepers (53:10) poised to make an impact in dynasty leagues. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We've got Joshua Cho at JBChoKnows on Twitter. We've got Adam Pfeiffer from FTN. Adam, you don't have your Twitter handle up there, and so I'm maybe going to get it wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's A-P-F-E-I-F-E-R. I forgot the rest. 24. 24.

I thought you were going to have it. I was about to be super impressed. Is that for Kobe? That's for my favorite athlete of all time, Ken Griffey Jr. Ken Griffey. Wow. I love it. I was about to be super impressed. Was that, is that for Kobe? Is that for, that's for my favorite athlete of all time, Ken Griffey Jr. Wow. I love it. I think, you know, I've, I've not, I don't think we've done, we've talked a lot, Joshua, but I don't think we've done a podcast before. One of my very first podcasts was Adam, maybe the first one to maybe actually a baseball podcast. It was definitely, we did a DFS basketball podcast. I can't even fathom DFS basketball podcast. I can't even

fathom with baseball starting yesterday. I can't even fathom doing, I haven't done baseball content in a while. I can't even fathom doing that now. So we've got a great collection of analysts in this draft. I started it off with the first pick. Yes. I gave myself the first pick because you know what? I'm trying to host a show. I'm trying to keep track of too many things and now oh somebody's making me angry in the chat jay felicio asked me what time do the jayhawks play tonight yeah i really appreciate that somebody kick him out of it can we ban him from the chat thomas no i'm just joking we won't do that joshua you had the second pick so i started things off with josh allen it's a super flex uh startup mock, no rookies.

Did I make your choice easy when I took Josh Allen? Yeah, you did. You know, Patrick Mahomes has been one of the best, you know, since really he came into the league. And he was the consensus number one for a while in Dynasty until Josh Allen improved his passing uh accuracy and just suddenly catapulted himself along with his rushing uh so i would have definitely taken josh allen if i was at number one here uh but patrick mahomes for me is is kind of an easy two at this

point in dynasty in redraft it might be a little bit different with uh leaning towards uh you know more dual threat guys like jalen hurts or uh even lamar jackson but i think here in dynasty i want to hold on to patrick mahomes and see where his career continues to ascend to now adam you're a bills fan you got your bills fat hat on is it nice to see josh allen finally win something over patrick moms i literally knew that was coming and i can't even do And I can't even do anything. I can't even do anything about it. I will say, though, Josh Allen, he's been the QB one in three of the last four years. And the one year he didn't, he was second.

And I believe that was the year that he missed the game with the Bengals-Bills game. So, yeah, listen, Mahomes can win the Super Bowls, but Josh Allen can be the best quarterback in fantasy. That's what we have for the Bills. I think, like, we talk about this all the time, and it's one of the reasons that we play in super flex leagues now is this is one way to make quarterback value closer to what real-world value is. There might be other ways.

I know Joshua, like Scott Fish in the Scott Fish Bowl several years has done things to try to penalize interceptions more or to try to give people bonuses for a high completion rate. How important do you think it is that this game that we play reflects the game that we're building everything around? Man, you know, I think it's really interesting because I started playing fantasy football like 20 plus years ago now. And just the way that it's grown and people really love to play the game. I think as much as you can, it would be good to do so. But for me, it's like whatever

settings you put out, I'm going to figure out the best team to make there, regardless of what the settings are. So, but I do think that having super flex majority of my leagues are super flex. I think I only have like one, one QB league that I do. And it's like a redraft league. And it's just to remember the old times of like the one QB days. So I do like the, the two QB or super flex um and scoring i think quarterbacks

should be the ones that tend to score more because they're the ones always with the ball under center and in their hands so yeah that's why i and i know cbs is one of the few places where the standard is a six point per pass touchdown and went to four point a lot of other places to try to kind of i guess nerf the quarterback scoring. But I agree with you. Quarterback is the most important position in football. They should score a lot more points than everyone else. Let's take a look at how this draft has started. I already mentioned it started off with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen not in that order with the first two picks. RJ White takes CJ Stroud with pick number three. We're definitely going to talk more about that jaylen hertz goes fourth jamar chase the first non-qb goes fifth then lamar jackson joe burrow anthony richardson

man they're going fast justin herbert cd lamb and justin jefferson so let's go back first off maybe a little bit of surprise that jefferson is the third wide receiver but cj stroud is the third quarterback adam we get oh i'll, I'll go to Joshua here. I didn't see you were on the clock for a couple picks. I'll let you pick. Joshua, are we getting over our skis a little bit? Or longevity-wise, he might have 15 years as a QB1. Man, I love C.J. Stroud,

and I was so surprised by how well he did in his rookie season. I mean, he looked like he'd been in the league for years. It took how many attempts before his first interception in the NFL? And they're surrounding him with talent, right? I mean, he's got Nico Collins, got Tank Dell, re-signed Dalton Schultz, who he had really great chemistry with at tight end. They just got Mixon, right? I mean, so they're doing a lot of things to keep that offense purring. But I think that it might be a little bit too early for him personally, even though it is dynasty and he's young. I mean, he's going into his second year. He's probably only going to get better. I need to see probably a little bit more before I put him at three.

I think Jalen Hurts needs to be there or, you know, Lamar or one of the guys who are more established. So Adam's made his pick. So Adam, that first round goes Allen, Mahomes, Stroud, Hurts, Chase, Jackson, Burrow, Richardson, Herbert, and then Lamb, Jefferson. And you took Kyler Murray with the 12th pick. The order of these wide receivers, I do have Chase as my wide receiver one, but then Lamb also goes ahead of Jefferson. How are you ordering those three? And are they kind of interchangeable? Are you okay trading back at that spot in the draft to take the third wide receiver of that group? Yeah, I think in like redraft, I think as crazy as it is to say,

I think Justin Jefferson would easily be third for me just because of this year with the quarterback uncertainty with whether it's Darnold or a rookie but in dynasty like Jefferson eventually is going to have you know more of an answer at quarterback um I think those three if you had Jefferson first Lamb first uh Chase first it's it's totally fine it's really personal preference I feel like it's also you know part of its recency bias not that he's you know it's unwarranted but CeeDee Lamb just did what CeeDee Lamb did last year, and Jefferson missed some games, and Chase missed some games. But yeah, they're interchangeable for me as well.

And those three, the only non-quarterbacks to go. So we had nine quarterbacks, Joshua, in the first round of the Super Flex Mock, including Kyler by Adam. I know Justin Herbert's fallen out of some favor with some people you think nine's about right for the number of quarterbacks that should go in round one uh man honestly if it was just me every single time i i bet you'd be pretty much all quarterbacks i mean i just really value quarterback heavily so i love guys like jamar chase ed lamb and justin jefferson but i don't think i've ever done a super flex league where i've taken a non-qb with my first round pick one of the top guys unless i'm like adam

right around the turn where i can grab a qb and then someone else right um but yeah i think you you have to have qbs in super flex dynasty or you're going to be in trouble very soon and for me i was at the end up with daniel jones and like matt stafford it's like dude your team's gonna be in trouble in a couple years or maybe even next year yeah and for me i was at the turn so i thought okay kyler for me was the last quarterback before a slight teardrop i think jordan loves right there as well um so like obviously i had to take one or i was in trouble and then i was sitting there you know what and like we should also preface like we don't have rookies for this draft so like that would obviously I would probably feel even more inclined to not go double quarterback to start the first round because of how strong the rookie

quarterback class is but for me I thought after Kyler and maybe Jordan Love there's a bit of a teardrop this is a real test for me because we've gotten to the end of round two, and I already have Josh Allen. Listen, I'm probably going to take one more quarterback here, and the top two quarterbacks on my board, let me make sure I'm not missing something and one of them was taken. No, it's Brock Purdy and Trevor Lawrence. This is pretty late for Lawrence. What's that? This is pretty late for Lawrence. I know it's been disappointing from last year a little bit,

but this is still as late as I seen him go. Well, and almost for the entirety of their lives, everyone thought that Trevor Lawrence was so much more valuable than Brock Purdy, but I've got Brock Purdy higher than Trevor Lawrence. I'm taking Brock Purdy over Trevor Lawrence. It feels a little bit,

how much more evidence do we need? Wow. In terms of like fantasy production, and that's not everything. Like we've still taken to value how good these guys actually are and what their upside is based on their skillset. But Joshua, like at some point,

Trevor Lawrence actually has to produce like the elite fantasy prospect that he is. Right, man. You know, I really liked Trevor Lawrence and this is probably the first, I mean, everyone knows as a super flex,

right? I mean, Trevor Lawrence should not be leaving the first two rounds of a super flex dynasty startup. Like I would be ecstatic, I think to see him still there like i would have to consider him with my third pick here uh because i know his value and so that's one of the things that i kind of wrestle with when i do a super flex dynasty startup is during the startup you're

not necessarily looking to fill holes or fill needs i think like as you continue to progress for me you always have to look at value and potential of what they bring. And Trevor Lawrence still is a franchise quarterback. He has the goods in terms of ability and just quality of play, but he hasn't put things quite together as people have expected. So I understand that people are a little bit lower on him now, but it is really hard to see him here and and uh i mean let's just like you're you're up against you're gonna have to make that choice i'm gonna give you a little bit more time

on the clock here because uh but adam the the four quarterbacks taken in round two we had nine taken in round one we got four taken in two. That means 13 quarterbacks have been selected, and Trevor Lawrence has not. Jordan Love, Tua Tungavailoa, Dak Prescott, which was who Joshua just took, and then I took Brock Purdy. How many of those guys, Adam, do you have Trevor Lawrence ranked ahead of?

I think I would have Lawrence ahead of Dak, just strictly based off age and dynasty, but production-wise, obviously, Dak, what he did at the end of last season. I think the Purdy conversation is valid. I mean, like, he's not going anywhere. Yes, there's been some rumors about Brandon Ayuk, but, like, that offense, we know it's going to be conducive to fantasy scoring. And whether you believe Purdy is a system quarterback or not,

like for fantasy, I don't care. Like it doesn't matter to me. So I think I would have Lawrence over Dak. I would have Lawrence over Tua. I would probably, it's, I would probably, honestly, I would probably slightly lean Purdy over Lawrence. So I would agree with your selection over Lawrence. Whether in the game or in life, the right coverage can make all the difference.

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with the next pick. We see Deshaun Watson taken two picks later. So hopefully there, we need a run now, Joshua, of QBs because you're sitting here through three rounds. It doesn't matter if you prefer Dak Prescott or Trevor Lawrence. You've got them both, Mahomes, Prescott, and Lawrence. Let's read through round two. We know who's making trades if this league plays out. Wouldn't you rather be making trades? It's a lot more fun that way.

We did have Bijan Robinson. The first running back was taken with the first pick of round two. Then a Munros St. Brown. Then Jordan Love. Then there's a Garrett Wilson. Tua Tongavailoa. Christian McCaffrey. Tyree Kill.

Brees Hall. Jameer Gibbs. Puka Nakua. Dak Prescott. Brock Purdy. Joshua, anything stand out there as like, well, that guy should have gone in round one. We pretty much nailed it, right? I mean, I think it's so a lot of the leagues that I play in with, you know, fellow analysts and things.

I definitely. I don't know. Some of these guys seem a little bit early but because we're not doing rookie picks it's understandable that things are pushed up a little bit um running backs running backs this early usually i don't see too too much although the ones that went are pretty much the top three jonathan taylor this late in the third wow yeah, I think that's very good value. Like I'd want him over Kirk cousins, Deshaun Watson, Jared Goff for sure. Well, that's, I think that's what, what you have to figure out. And there's, there's this tear break at quarterback and it's still

really important to get them. Like those QB twos are going to get you a first round pick. If you want to trade them just about any year in a rookie draft. So there is a value in stockpiling quarterbacks. But I also think that there comes a point, and it's really about the point that Lawrence goes off the board, where you're right. The guys like the truly elite difference makers at the other positions need to be drafted. Now, I think we're getting to the end of round three here. I don't want to spoil Adam's pick because he probably won't do it, but we've not had a tight end selected yet.

And it's one thing I've noticed in my rankings versus the consensus or the ADP is that everybody seems to have a tight end in round two or round three. I think this draft is actually right. I think with Kelsey's age concern and with everybody else's lack of a track record of elite production, I'm not sure there should be a tight end in the first 30 picks of a draft. Heath, I don't know about you, but when I first started playing fantasy, I was always the one QB. You draft RB heavy first, right? Then you get your wide receivers. Then you get maybe your QB somewhere in the mid rounds. And then tight end was always like you just kind of pick and choose.

Almost you can even do a tight end carousel, right? But now with the influx of all the youngsters that are coming in and making a lot of noise, I've seen Sam Laporta go into third in several startups with a lot of sharp guys. But I just think that there's enough talent in the pool now where you don't have to reach so high to grab like a quality, even an elite tight end, unless it's a true difference maker like Travis Kelsey in his prime where he's just above and beyond the rest of the pool. But now I definitely wait on tight end like the good old days and grab an Evan Ingram late. Even even having Ingram, one underrated guy, right? I mean, I don't want to do draft etiquette and talk table talk with players that are still on the board, but.

Oh, we're going to do that. We're going to do that a lot. When you're doing a podcast, that rule is completely thrown out the window. Now, we did with the second pick of round four, Zach Berger takes Sam Laporta. Adam, I think there's a pretty healthy debate over whether Laporta should be the tight end one. I think you could still put Mark Andrews in that conversation. Trey McBride made his case in the second half of last year. And the way Jonathan Gannon's talking about him, I don't think that's going to change.

I think that's a fixture of their offense is throw the ball to the tight end 25% to 30% of the time. Do you see Laporta as a clear tight end one in dynasty, or do you think that there's room for debate there? I think there's definitely room for debate because like Mark Andrews missed so much time for me, like Laporta is probably like, if like I'm going to be starting my dynasty ranks next week and I'll probably have Laporta first,

but also remember like there was a stretch where, or stretches i guess where the lions only had one running back whether montgomery was out or gibbs was out when they finally down the stretch had both together that's when we saw sam laporta's numbers dip a little bit so i'm not saying he's going to be you know not part of the offense he's still going to be at worst the top three tight end but just definitely something to keep an eye on if you look at the splits when they were all healthy at running back with laporta when you're comparing him to mark andrews kelsey trey mcbride etc oh i absolutely love this we see kyle pitts go with as tight end two in this draft and i i have really and i'll just stay with you on this one adam because we're getting close to joshua's pick but I've really been struggling

with how much of a boost to give Pitts after two or three years of not quite tight end one, you know, not the guy that we'd been billing him to be, but now he's got Kirk Cousins. He's got rid of Arthur Smith. Things are supposed to be getting better. Is he in that conversation for you? Because I'll tell you, the only guy I moved him ahead of, I had him at tight end five before this news.

They signed Cousins. I moved him up to tight end four. The only guy that I moved him ahead of, though, was a Buffalo Bill Dalton Kincaid. Yeah, obviously Kyle Pitts is somebody that we've just been waiting for more. I remember back what would have been his rookie year when matt ryan was there there was i i just always go back to it it was it was when they're playing miami he was lined up out wide on the perimeter against xavian howard and one one one on one coverage and just beat him multiple times i'm like can we just throw him the ball eight

times a game and of course obviously arthur smith happened um but last year he was like 40 plus percent of his targets were deemed uncatchable as It was one of the highest rates in the NFL. Kirk Cousins, like, obviously a massive upgrade. And Kirk Cousins, if he plays the majority of the season, he's pretty much a lock for 4,200 yards and 30 touchdowns. So you think Drake London gets a lot of that, Bijan gets some, and Kyle Pitts gets some. I don't have him ranked as tight end two, but if he finishes tight end two, or if this time next year we rank him as tight end one, I don't think it's out of the range of possibilities.

Joshua, you stole Kyron Williams from me there. But I was really struggling with the clear top two players on my board were Kyron Williams and Aitian. And I was struggling if I wanted to go running back, running back at the four or five turn when I've only got one wide receiver. So the A-Chan pick is pretty easy for me there. I don't know that there was a pretty significant run on wide receivers. And so I don't really know that I feel great about any of the wide. Oh, yes, I do. Devante Smith's still there. He's someone Adam.

It's who I debated between him and DJ more. It was really close. It seems like last year is really being held against him. I see him for redraft purposes, being graded as a low end, borderline wide receiver too. I still have him as a top 12 dynasty wide receiver. This feels like an exceptional value in round five for me, at least.

It is. And I debated between him and DJ Moore. I probably should have went Devonta Smith with Keenan Allen there, but I don't, you know, DJ Moore is still young. Keenan Allen, I don't think will be there too long. And obviously they will presumably have Caleb Williams. The thing with the Eagles wide receivers that I'm so excited about this season with Kellen Moore, their offense last year was kind of, of kind of reminded me of the Bills offense in years past where it was like, just rely on your really good quarterback and your really good wide receivers to make plays and not even really scheme anything.

And they were dead last in pre-step motion, which like I'm a huge fan of pre-step motion. I think it's really, really not only helpful for the quarterback, but it just helps wide receivers get easy converted targets. And obviously they were they were last in pre-step motion both receivers were like it was like four percent of the time they were actually in motion before the snap obviously kellen moore comes from dallas and comes from the chargers last year where the chargers were fifth in pre-step motion so i expect davante smith to move around the formation more and yeah like the overall offense was down right we expect the offense to be much, much better. Hurts was banged up. So yeah, I probably should have taken Devonta Smith. But yeah, getting him where you got him is pretty massive, I think.

And it always feels good when you talk somebody into believing they should have taken the guy that you took. But no, I think those were both good picks. Now, a lion-eye McG here is obviously feeling his oats after the big victory last night. It says, what is the point of this before the NFL draft? And I want to say, like, somebody answered content. Correct, Dawn. But also, that's not just it. What I really enjoy when starting at a new Dynasty League is doing the startup before the NFL draft

and then having a rookie draft to do after the NFL draft. That's the best part of fantasy football is drafting. When you're starting a new league, why not have two drafts? So that's the point of this is I actually have had leagues that we started like this. We did the startup in February or January or March, probably not April, but maybe even April. And then in May, you get that rookie draft. Now we're not including rookies or rookie picks in this. There's a lot of different ways that you can do this, Joshua. And I kind of want to get your opinion. I've seen leagues where you draft kickers for your rookie picks and you're like selecting your rookie picks as a part of the draft. I've seen leagues where you go ahead and draft rookies as a part of the startup before they are ever selected to teams.

And then I've seen leagues where you have a reverse order for the rookie draft than you have for the startup draft. I think like you guys vote and decide what you prefer. And any of those are fine with me. Do you have one of those that you strongly prefer? Yeah. So this is actually a really awesome question for people who are thinking about doing a startup or starting one. I prefer having kickers represent draft picks in the startup draft because it kind of makes an equal putting of where you can take a pick or kind of earning the pick in one sense by valuing it and then picking it as part of the startup. I've seen people who do the reverse order of the startup, but I don't like that because your team hasn't done anything, right? It hasn't shown that it's

weaker or stronger. And then just by coincidence of having last pick in the startup, you get the one-on-one that's like way too much value to get a one-on-one rookie just based on order. So, uh, I definitely prefer having the kickers represent, uh, the draft picks. Like I I'm in one where I took the 1.01 in the second round of startup of a super flex dynasty. And that represents Caleb Williams, obviously for me. So like doing something like that now when you go to the rookie draft and like you said we love drafting having two sec set uh you know separate drafts uh then you go ahead and use those picks or you can even trade those picks as assets right before the draft so there's a lot of fun that goes into having in

there i have also been in drafts where the rookies are actually in the draft. And let me tell you Malik Willis year, there were a lot of mistakes made by people drafting him as a potential first rounder. And then they were just probably on the NFL draft day waiting around saying, when, when is, when is Malik Willis going to? What have I done? Exactly. Exactly.? Exactly, exactly.

So yeah, definitely, if anyone were to ask me, I'd say get the kickers in there as position holders for the draft. And it's a lot of fun that way, for sure. So Thomas hasn't yelled at me about it yet, but I haven't taken a break yet either. So let's take a short break and then I'll kind of recap rounds three, four, and five,

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Remember to follow all traffic signals. Be careful along our tracks and only make left turns where it's safe to do so. Be alert, be aware, and stay safe. Okay, so we are back. Let's take a look at round three. Be alert, be aware, Jalen Waddell, Jonathan Taylor, Nico Collins, Michael Pittman, and then Bryce Young goes to Adam with the final pick of round three. Adam, what kind of hope do you have? Because I think we talked about it, and Joshua and I were both in agreement that some of these older quarterbacks went earlier than we would like to draft them. But Young is obviously very young, just had a disastrous rookie year.

Are you hopeful that Dave Canales is going to get things fixed for him, that Deontay Johnson's going to give him a true number one wide receiver, and that we're going to see him produce like a high-end QB2 this year? I both am encouraged with Bryce Young. I also, admittedly,

the three players that went before him were the three top players on my board. So that didn't help. But no, I actually wrote about Bryce Young in an article last week. So obviously Bryce Young's rookie season was terrible. But if anybody watched, that team just had no separation. We have a ton of advanced data at FTN Fantasy. So our data team charted his average separation per pass attempt was at 1.63

it was tied for the fourth lowest rate in the nfl doesn't really surprise anybody they bring in deontay johnson who can separate and like i am a massive dave canales fan he obviously was the quarterback's coach in seattle where gino smith had a breakout season was a top 10 fantasy quarterback i think it was like top five actually actually, borderline. And then obviously last year in Tampa Bay as the OC, with Baker having a career season. So I just, I believe in Dave Canales. I believe in the fact that, you know, they bring in Deontay Johnson.

And we have to remember, like, yes, CJ Stroud is clearly the best quarterback in that class. It's not even a debate. But I really struggle to believe the number one overall selection last year was all of a sudden just as bad as he was last year. I remember Trevor Lawrence had a bad rookie season in a bad situation. So, um, and Bryce Young made some throws last year that were like, wow, first overall selection worthy throws. So I would like to see a little bit more

talent at it. I know they're missing some draft picks because they traded for Bryce Young, but yeah, I mean, I still, I'm still very hopeful. I'm going to stay with you, Adam, here because Joshua and I are up at our turn and we will get to round four in a second. But I want to talk about a pick that was just made by RJ White and I absolutely love it. Will Levis falls all the way to the end, basically the 10th pick of round six. We saw Baker Mayfield, Justin Fields, Derek Carr, Matthew Stafford all go in this round. I prefer Levis to all of these guys. I wrote about how one of the big shifts in my running back ranking changes this month

was dropping fields below Will Levis. He's now got Calvin Ridley. He's got DeAndre Hopkins. He's got a better offensive system. Are you optimistic about Levis? I am. I also – I'm still a little bit worried about a lot of his traits, like his pocket presence is terrible.

But if he's getting – I also want to see Calvin Ridley use – I think they talked about it actually this week. Callahan talked about moving him around more, which he didn't do in Jacksonville. So you move him around the formation more, he's going to get open a lot faster. You have two very capable running backs. Maybe they draft now without – they were a team that could have went receiver or something. Now they can probably maybe take Joe Alt where they're at in the draft and show up the offensive line. And the thing with Will Levis is, too, there is legitimate upside with his game because he was such a high

a dot player like i believe he was um top five and percentage of passes 20 plus yards down the field so he's not going to have like this massive you know 20 plus point floor but he'll have some spike week especially with hopkins ridley and the weapons they have there i i honestly think that it's not he's probably not going to throw 30 touchdown passes or 30 interceptions. But watching him play, that 30-30 season that we got from Jameis, and that quarterback that we as fantasy managers love and drive some head coaches crazy, I think Levis could be that guy for the next couple of seasons as a potential starter. Now let's go through, we got through our picks there, Joshua, and we'll talk about those

in a minute, but I've fallen a little bit behind here on the rounds. So let's actually try to get through round four here and see what you thought of these picks. Adam started that round off with DJ Moore. Then we had the first tight end, Sam Laporta, Travis Etienne, Brandon Ayuk, Tee Higgins, Kyle Pitts as tight end two was a bit of a surprise, but I like it. Saquon Barkley, Aaron Rodgers, another old quarterback, Trey McBride, Rashi Rice. Man, I wish I could have got him. Kyron Williams, man, I wish I could have got him. And then I took Devon Aitken. I almost feel like I like the end of that round four better than the start of it. Maybe that's because it was my pick. Do you have any observations there about round four?

You know, I think DJ Moore, you know, obviously as a Bears fan, I love having him on our team he is a difference maker a playmaker and uh you know i i would probably take him actually ahead of probably michael pitman jr nico collins um and just with the thought of caleb williams arriving into the windy city and uh you know throwing the ball i think my expectations are very high for dj more to not lose a step but to actually do even better now i love justin fields and i wish him success you know in pittsburgh but um you know it's it's a new era hopefully we'll have our first what 4 000 yard passer in history of the chicago

bears and caleb williams so i really like the dj moore pick Saquon Barkley also, I think, is an absolute stud. If he was there at my pick and he fell, I probably would have taken him over Kyron. Now, I know the age factor, but Barkley being on the Eagles now, I know there's the tush push and, you know, everyone's like, you know, Hurts is going to take away value. But I think Barkley is going to have, I mean, a huge, huge season in Philadelphia. Um, but yeah, I'm noticing that with all these QBs going, uh, that normally I don't see this level of older QBs or like QB twos going this early. Uh, even, even like Bryce young, like he's kind of risky so i mean i i respect the pick i think he probably could have gone a little bit later but at this point just cubies are flying off the board i mean uh so yeah i mean those are some of my i guess observations

rishi rice i'm i'm very interested to see how he does to follow up a very strong finish to his rookie season for sure yeah and i i think you that's a good transition because i was just looking at round five and we'll just jump straight there we talked plenty about my pick in round five davante smith to start the round but then you took josh jacobs with the second pick of round five and you were kind of glowing about saquon barkley i i actually still have jacobs ranked above Barkley in terms of dynasty value. He's a year younger. Their production's been pretty similar over the last three seasons.

And I think it's easy to look at who Saquon Barkley was the first two years in the league and say Josh Jacobs has never been that guy. But I think the Saquon Barkley we have now is very similar to Josh Jacobs. And I wonder if in full PPR, there's more of a room for a huge catch season for Jacobs. Especially now, right? Being on a new squad. I love Josh Jacobs, not as much as Saquon Barkley, but he's an all-around back. I mean, he can catch the ball out of the backfield and he's a hard runner he can pretty much do anything that you require of a running back and he's someone who really slipped in value obviously last year with injury and uh you know Zamir White

kind of you know doing his thing on the Raiders um but yeah I'm really looking forward to seeing him bounce back and have a big year. And I was looking through the wide receivers. A lot of wide receivers that I would have liked there were gone. So I'm very happy to have two younger running backs to kind of buoy everything for the team. I still think and believe that having strong running backs is part of the key to success, even in Dynasty. I know a lot of savvy Dynasty players, they go hard on wide receivers early on, especially. But I'm still in super flex. Give me the QBs. And if there's top RBs remaining, those are the guys I'm probably rocking with.

Okay, Adam, so we'll finish out round five here with you. After Smith and Jacobs, we get James Cook, Zay Flowers, Tank Dell, Travis Kelsey, Debo Samuel, DK Metcalf, Jordan Addison, George Pickens, Mark Andrews, and Ken Walker. I'll tell you, I was looking at Walker when I made, like right before JB took Josh Jacobs. So I thought that was a great value on Ken Walker, but, but, but, but the guy that I want to ask you about is George Pickens. I think there is an enormous opportunity for this guy,

just the fifth player since 1992 to have a hundred targets average better than 10 yards per target in his age, 22 season. The first four were all superstars except for Josh Gordon, and he would have been a superstar. So do you have some hope that George Pickens could turn into maybe a real wide receiver one if either Russell Wilson or Justin Fields can just be average? 100%. His splits in the games, remember Deontay missed, I think I heard the first game of the season and missed a few games after that.

His splits in terms of target share were really good. We started to see a little bit after the change in OC of him not just running go routes. It was still a majority of his production, but that's a good fit with Russell Wilson. I mean, we saw Russell Wilson when he's at his best off play action, taking shots on the field. And Arthur Smith obviously isn't you know fantasy football's favorite uh head coach at this point or OC but he will utilize playaction a ton and he will I trust him to to because that's what Denver didn't do for the most part of Russell Wilson they didn't get him out on outside the pocket and in playaction and and taking shots on the field so you add this team's going to add a wide receiver and given their track record they're probably going to be really good but pickens right now clear alpha super young has shown serious

upside um i almost took him earlier than he went i almost reached on him but i don't know if it would have been a reach because i'm i'm pretty high on him so you have one more pick joshua i know you're a fields fan i get the i get the impression from watching on twitter you're also a russell wilson fan i felt like russell wilson really got a raw deal and not just because they fan. I get the impression from watching on Twitter, you're also a Russell Wilson fan. I felt like Russell Wilson really got a raw deal and not just because they benched him so they didn't have to worry about potentially paying him. But I think Adam's right. Sean Payton took future Hall of Famer Russell Wilson and said, you're going to be Drew Brees now, instead of trying to craft an offense around what Russell Wilson does well. Do you have confidence or hope that,

that maybe Wilson doesn't give fields a chance to start this year? Cause he actually plays well. So, yeah, I am big on, on both players. Russell Wilson is someone I think he didn't get a raw deal in terms of money.

He still got paid, right? 30 something million dollars for this year. But I think that he's kind of like, you know, like a basketball player when early on you, you know, you kind of rely a lot on your athleticism and everything to make the game work. And then you kind of have to develop a jump shot, you know. And once you get a good jump shooter, you can stay in the league

for a long time, right? And I think Russell Wilson still, with his passing, has the ability to be the starting quarterback of an NFL team for many more years. And so I think Pittsburgh giving him an opportunity, and we just talked about Pickens, his deep ball accuracy still tops. And I think that's going to be a really big boost for Pickens. And I do think that they'll let Russ start. And unless he just completely goes down in flames and does terribly, I think that he will be Russ start and unless he just completely you know goes down in flames and does terribly I think that he will be the starter for the year um but Justin Fields he does bring

some excitement right I mean he does something excellent right where in his rushing ability not not yet in his passing but in his rushing ability that really brings kind of an x factor to the game that Russell Wilson at this point in his career doesn't really do. So it kind of depends on what they want to do, but Russ, I think he's going to do a really good job. Pickens though. I need a little bit more convincing on that, that you mentioned. And Adam, you know, was all over that too, but I was always a big Deontay Johnson guy like in Pittsburgh when they were

both on the same team. So Pickens needs to show me a little bit more like I don't think I have any Pickens in any of my dynasty leagues um so I'm not out out on him because he showed such improvement but I'm also not like salivating to to you know draft him for this upcoming season would you say you've not been picking Sam yeah yeah okay you would you you probably wouldn't say that, but I did. If the only wide receiver left, it would be slim pickings. It would be slim pickings. I love that. Let's take a look at round six, Adam.

Like I said, we are moving through this draft quickly. We're actually in round eight now. But if you're watching on YouTube, then you can see the picks happen live as they happen. If you're listening on the podcast, we'll recap for you and we'll probably go another 15 minutes if these guys are good with that, maybe get through round 10. But the round six picks we had, you started off, Adam, with Stefan Diggs. That's got to be the latest. I mean, imagine last year even thinking that Stefan Diggs was going to be there in round six of a startup, but there were some struggles left here. Then we have Matthew Stafford, Dalton Kincaid, JSN goes in round six.

Another pretty big surprise based on where they were going last year. Derek Carr, Justin Fields, Christian Watson, Baker Mayfield, Jaden Reed, Will Levis. We already talked about how much I liked that pick. Then Joshua took Devontae Adams. I took Rashad White. Let's talk about these young wide receivers, JSN and Christian Watson, a couple of guys who have seen their value fall quite a bit in the last calendar month.

Are you still in on these guys? What's your level of hope? Yeah, Christian Watson I'm kind of not fully out on. I just don't think he's the best wide receiver on their team. Simply put, I think you watched their offense with Matt LaFleur, and I was really interested to see this post Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers was not a fan of pre-stamp motion at all, and now that he was gone, I was expecting an uptick, and there was an uptick, and a lot of that was with Jaden Reed. He was the guy getting

a lot of the jet sweeps, a lot of the screens, a lot of the scheme touches. And granted, his ADOT and everything was incredibly low, and Watson has the ceiling. But all of a sudden, you have Jaden Reed. You have two young tight ends that will be more involved and hopefully healthy this season. And then, you know, Dontavian Wicks was awesome last year. I don't really – like, Watson's somebody I'm really out on just because I think I would rather get Jaden Reed or Devante Dontavian Wicks later. So I'm not really on Watson. JSN obviously would be more interesting if, you know, Ty Lockett wasn't back. The interesting thing, too, though, Shane Waldron's gone.

He was he was a proponent of using 12 and 13 personnel at times. Hopefully we see more 11 than we saw. But down the stretch, you know, second half of season, which you tend to see from rookies, Jason was, was playing a lot more.

He's a lot of times he's getting more targets per outrun than lock it. Who, you know, over the age of 30, he had one of his least efficient seasons. Finally, Lockett was not that efficient, which hasn't happened really ever. So I'm,

I'm definitely like, if people are worried about Jason, I would definitely jump to trade for him. Is he, is, is he still a top 15 dynasty wide receiver? Top 20? Top 25? I find – I struggle with him right around that 20 range.

He would be outside top 15 for me for sure. Right. Yeah, he's probably like 20 to 25. Okay. And also it's – obviously I think you would comfortably put three rookies ahead of him. So that obviously bumps them down. Maybe even four, depending on landing spot.

We'll see. We, we just had the ultimate run of old wide receivers and it was all Joshua and I doing it. Let me see. I wanted, I wanted Chris Godden where Keenan Allen after your turn, and you took both. I was like, where did they go?

They disappeared from the queue. So you take Cooper Cup at the end of round eight or almost at the end. Then I take Chris Godwin. I pair him up with Keenan Allen. Then you take DeAndre Hopkins. It just, how do you, how do you view, like, do you have to be someone who's drafting in a startup to be a competitor, that you think you're drafting your team to be a competitor to take guys like Cup and Keenan or Hopkins, or do you feel okay adding them because it's so late? Like we're at pick 96, 97, 98. Like it's just such great value that you'll be able to

turn them into a rookie pick if you're not a competitor. Yeah. So the way that I strategize in Dynasty, Superflex, or even just any startup is I plan on winning right away. So I'm not thinking about fancy, you know, rebuilds and, you know, I think there's something like the productive struggle and all these. Yes, Ryan McDowell.

We talked about that just a couple of weeks ago. I say, give me the best players available, but you have to really couple it with value because you don't want to just flame out after a couple of years because everyone's too old and their time has come right to be, be out of the league. So these values are actually really good for the potential of what, you know, the veteran receivers can produce. I did actually consider Godwin over Kup simply because age.

People think Chris Godwin's like 35, but what is he, like 28? He's still kind of in the prime of his wide receiver career. But yeah, I mean, Cooper Kup, just a couple years back, I mean, what he was able to do, and on a regular, consistent basis, going this late, who knows, Matt Stafford still loves him. I know Puka Nukua, but look, Puka Nukua went in the second round and we're in the eighth round. And I think Cooper Cup very much has the ability to put a wide receiver one number still, as long as he stays healthy. DeAndre Hopkins as well with Will Levis, we saw really actually

great connection between the two and Levis just trust Hopkins to go up and get the ball so I'm sure he'll be chucking a few his way as well so uh I was okay going with with Hopkins here especially since I'm set at running back let's uh Ted's getting ready Adam's getting ready to make some picks Joshua so I'll stay with you and let's take a look at how uh round seven went I started that off with Javante Williams, who is one of my favorite by lows this off season. I still think that we may get to October and he'll be viewed as a top 12 dynasty running back.

Once again, you took Isaiah Pacheco right behind him, which I think those guys belong in the same range. Then we had Calvin Ridley, David Montgomery, Terry McLaurin, Nick Chubb, Mr.

Unlimited, Russell Wilson, TJ Hawkinson, DeAndre Swift, Geno Smith, Christian Kirk. I love that pick from Zach. And then Joe Mixon. I want to ask you about Hawkinson because obviously the injury has extremely negatively impacted his redraft value. We expect that he's not going to be ready at the start of the year. We don't know when he's going to be 100%. How does that change your valuation of him in dynasty? Is it someone you want to buy because he's an injured player and you can maybe get him cheaper right now? Yeah. I think with the way that people are coming back from injuries now, especially,

you know, he's not a running back or, um, you know, I, I would still consider him top five, I think, or maybe not top five. That's hard to say with all the young people, you know, I would still consider him top five, I think. Okay. Or maybe not top five. That's hard to say with all the young, you know, the young TEs. But he's definitely still a tight end one. And he's someone that I would target for value. In this particular round, though, it's a very interesting round to see.

Because, you know, talking about injuries, Nick Chubb, right? I mean, he went in the seventh and um he's someone that i would not pick until much later there's just too much risk involved but with t.j hockinson with his age him coming back probably will have a little bit more time and a little bit less violent of a position to play at tight end than running back just constantly getting pummeled um yeah i'm okay with that pick where he went. Let's take one more short break and then we'll kind of go through where our team stand through the first 10 rounds of the draft. Only one of us has made our 10th round pick, so we will start with Adam. We'll be right back after this.

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your QB two. You took Sam Darnold as your QB three. At running back, you have Ken Walker. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. You've got Bijan Robinson. You've got Ken Walker. You've got Joe Mixon and Aaron Jones. So a little long in the tooth with your RB3 and 4, but a great RB1 and 2. Wide receivers where it gets a little bit dicey. DJ Moore and Stefan Diggs, your only wide receivers through 10 rounds. And then you took, you were listening to Joshua earlier, you took Evan Ingram as that value tight end one. Maybe a little bit of a unique build with four running backs and two wide receivers.

But man, that combination of Bijan and Ken Walker may not matter who's playing wide receiver for you. Yeah, I definitely fell asleep a little bit at wide receiver. I was debating between Deontay Johnson and where I took Sam Darnold. And admittedly, it's definitely a bit of a struggle doing this without after, you know, for months of us kind of breaking down the rookies just right doing it to start up and everybody gets pushed up um so admittedly that that's something i struggle with a bit um i don't love my team obviously but um it's the the the you know somebody asked like why we're doing this before the draft i think it's the exercise and to know the differences in adp

changes when we get the rookies um and yeah evan ingram like don't expect it to happen again but he was fourth in the nfl interceptions last year like and i think them not obviously bringing back calvin ridley and bringing in gabe davis is only good things for christian kirk and evan ingram yeah and we know doug peterson's offense has been extremely tenant friendly so um yeah he's obviously i think he's 29 but um yeah he's, he's had a crazy career because he looked like somebody we all wanted in dynasty after his rookie season, then he fell apart and then he went to the Jacksonville. He's been top five. And it is kind of a weird dynamic because I know that we don't often see, and Joshua's getting ready to make his 10th pick. So i'm going to talk about the first nine while he's making that ten but what the first thing that stood out to me was the running backs

in kyron williams josh jacobs and isaiah pacheco are really really strong i know he's not generally a guy who prioritizes running backs in dynasty startups but i think that tells you kind of how the wide receivers flew off the board. And when you're at the end, like all three of us were, how you kind of have to take what the board gives you. So through nine rounds, and we'll get the 10th pick live here, the quarterbacks are Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, and Trevor Lawrence. Not sure you're going to find a better quarterback trio than those three. At running back, said he's got josh jacobs kyron williams and isaiah pacheco now adding raheem mostert as the 10th pick and then at

wide receiver three guys you want to talk about long in the tooth davante adams cooper cup and deandre hopkins no tight end yet for you joshua is this was is it surprising to you how this team's come together uh i mean the the three qbs in a row generally i i wouldn't do but uh with value the way that i value trevor lawrence as still a qb1 in dynasty um there's just no way that i could let him fall to a team that didn't prioritize quarterback you know in the first two rounds um so i really like the strong core and i could definitely look to make some moves off of that i do like the top tier running backs in a startup for the sake of winning that year it's a pretty big part and the two that i got age-wise you know karen williams as long as he doesn't go in the doghouse, he's going to be, you know, he's going to be hopefully the Rams, you know, running back of the foreseeable future.

And then Pacheco, I mean, they love him in KC and with good reason. And I think just being a part of that offense, I'm happy to take him there. I know my wide receivers are older. Some might say, you know, it's a retirement community and that wide receiver core uh but i think i can make do with this team and use the assets that i have to draft because there will be a rookie draft following this one if we were to do that right um and there's a very strong wide receiver class that's a good point that's that wasn't my thought process too even though it was a mock i'm sitting like well there has to be rookies at some point. Yeah, yeah.

So that's part of it, too. And I know that I can make up ground there. Maybe I'm just still so old school. I feel like running backs are so undervalued. They really are ones that could be difference makers. So Raheem Mostert, perfect example, very old in terms of running back age. But he's on an explosive offense. Let's get him going and go for another championship.

Excellent. We're going to let you make your pick here, Joshua and Adam. I'll go through my team. You can tear it apart, although you won't because my quarterback, my QB1, is Josh Allen. I'm set. I don't need to see the rest. Josh Allen and Brock Purdy at quarterback. I've got Devon Achan, Rashad White, and Javante Williams are my top three running backs. Wide receiver, A.J. Brown, Devante Smith, Chris Godwin, Keenan Allen,

and I just took Demario Douglas in round 11. And then my only tight end so far is Dallas Goddard, my round 10 pick. I did not realize that I drafted three Eagles pass catchers without Jalen Hurts. That was not intentional, but I still – Goddard's another one of those guys, kind of like Devontae Smith, where I just feel like last year's being held against him too much. Yeah, I can see that. And again, I just – I think we have to remember that the Eagles offense was not playing at its – especially in the second half. Remember how disappointing it was.

That's going to change. Like, whether you think they'll be the best offense, you know, the fourth best offense, I'd be shocked if they're out to the top five. And that's just going to bring everybody along. And, yeah, Goddard, like, he had a weird season two last year where he coming into last year like he was as efficient as anybody in the nfl at tight end so i'm not all of a sudden believing he's you know suddenly bad so i expect him to be right up there again um the only the only question you always have with him is like what's his ceiling for targets on a weekly basis everybody's healthy

but because he's so efficient i expect him to to be, you know, return to being efficient. He can make do with six targets a game. And when you're drafting him, I don't know, we'll be up three, five, six, nine, 10. If you're drafting him as a, as a tight end, 10, 11, 12 in route after in the double digit rounds, that risk of a lower target volume is not quite as daunting when we were drafting him in round six as a borderline top five tight end, then it was a little bit more of a concern. So listen, I'm going to kind of, we got just a couple minutes left here. We're in round 11 of this mock draft. There will be, if you want, I know it's probably when you're listening, you're watching, it's hard to keep up with every pick. I will write this mock up. There will be full results on the site,

cbssports.com, by Friday afternoon. So probably by the time you are listening to this podcast, you'll be able to go over to the site, look at the full results while you listen to the podcast. But you're both going to pick a couple times before I do, or Adam's twice, Joshua once. So you're not going to give me anything that I'm going to steal from you. But when we get into the double-digit rounds, and Adam's coming up to pick here now, so I'll go to you first, Joshua, people who are in the double digit rounds of their startup drafts, any, any deeper sleepers that make it to this range that you think people should be on the lookout for that might increase their value a lot in the next year? Man, that's a really, really good question. Honestly, I think at QB is actually one place where you might find some value. So Will Levis went a lot earlier in this draft than I've seen him go in some startups. But like, is Daniel Jones still out there? is in my queue so if i do take him it's not because i'm trying to steal him from you i was

actually considering him last round yeah i'm surprised that we've got adam azar and dan schneier in this draft it's amazing that neither one of them have taken him yet but yes daniel jones is someone who could be a value yeah so super flex i mean quarterback the the cheapest you'll ever be able to buy quote-unquote buy a quarterback is in the startup and so uh you know with daniel jones i think they're still committed to him at least for this season as the starter to kind of prove himself and the deal that they made with him giving all those millions of dollars um but i know that recently they did say hey but if there's a rookie quarterback that you really love in this draft go ahead and get him but i i daniel jones just, just a couple of seasons ago was what QB, QB 13, you know, like in dynasty. And so, um, he's someone that still has the goods.

He is kind of a silent Konami code player, the dual threat that people don't really expect, but he can run the ball, uh, you know, as well. So he's someone that I would definitely target in super flex leagues, kind of in the mid rounds, especially a quarterback. That's such an important position. I see it. That 11, 12 term, Adam,

you kind of answered this question for the people with your two picks, taking Gabe Davis and Michael Wilson. And immediately after that, Zach Berger, clearly watching live on YouTube takes Daniel Jones. Listen, I think that's one of the things about maybe why Trevor Lawrence falls to round three

because he just, after a disappointing third season, replaces Calvin Ridley with Gabe Davis. Do you think Gabe Davis has some bounce-back potential? Can he finally not disappoint now that he's gotten out of that terrible situation in Buffalo? I'm not overly excited about him. It was just kind of, obviously, I need to address the wide receiver position. And again, this is a team that if this were a real dynasty startup and we're playing it

out, I would be obviously going into the draft or going out of the draft, going into the rookie draft, knowing that I'm addressing wide receiver early, which I think is fine because it's such a loaded wide receiver class. But yeah, Michael Wilson I think is kind of sneaky too because we expect the Cardinals to take Marvin Harrison at four, but there's been rumors they trade back. They'll obviously address a position one, maybe two times during the draft because right now they're left with Greg Dortch and Michael Wilson. But he was a rookie pick last year.

Kyler Murray is going to be healthy hopefully for the full season. Even if Marvin Harrison is there, like there's a path to Michael Wilson being viable. And obviously, again, if they trade down and draft – they get a later first-round pick and draft somebody like Brian Thomas or somebody. Like I think Michael Wilson, I debated between him, Don Tavian Wicks. I just think Michael Wilson, there's, there's a little bit more unknown with him.

And at this point of the dynasty startup, I'm looking for some, some more of the unknown. I think we know Don Tavian Wicks is going to be solid and a part of the offense, but not quite sure what we can expect from Michael Wilson, which I don't think is always a bad thing to be unsure. Right.

And I, and I'll give one that I'm surprised is still here in round 13. I think people are doubting just how much Harbaugh and Roman are going to establish the run, but Gus Edwards is old. He doesn't catch passes and he's a running back. So nobody wants to draft him. But in round 13 of a startup, that's not a bad place to find a borderline RB2, which is where I just took Gus Edwards. I also paired Jake Ferguson up with Dallas Goddard.

If you, like we talk a lot in redraft at tight end about great or late. And if you're going late at tight end, just taking whoever's going to be the Cowboys tight end one has been a pretty good way to do it. They're going to throw 100 passes to their tight ends. If as long as Ferguson holds on to that job, he's going to be a borderline tight end one, guys. We still have a few rounds here. And again, like I said, we will have the full results available on the site.

But I have taken enough of Adam and Joshua's time, guys. I really appreciate you guys being here. Joshua, I know you do something a little bit like you are extremely active on Twitter. So tell people how they can follow you and how they can expect to interact with you in the, in the fantasy football world. Yeah. So in the fantasy off season, if there is one you know, I do a lot of dynasty you know, games and how to play the game values,

just answering questions that people might have on trades. And then during the redraft season, I try to put out daily content on X. And you can follow me at JBChoKnows. I try to really answer everyone who has a question, but as the following grows, there's quite a lot. So I do my best though, and I just try to share God's love and kindness

on the X app. I do my best though. And, just try to share, you know, God's love and kindness, you know, on the X app. And, hopefully you enjoy, you know, the interactions. We appreciate it. And we've,

we've enjoyed having you on Adam, tell everybody where they can find your content. Yeah. That's 10 fantasy.com. Right now doing ramping up the, with free agency, pretty much over ramping up the draft stuff. So right now I'm doing a series where i go through each division breaking down

which what what positions and what players make sense for every team in that division so um that's fun doing a ton of stuff with rookies coming up and it's exciting time i get i talk about all the time literally nothing better obviously than watching football and scoring fantasy points every sunday but my favorite time of the offseason at least for content podcasts etc is this time you know seeing who's landing where making strong cases for players given you know stats and everything with changes and teams and schemes everything so this is my favorite time of the year so i'm

always happy to be talking some some football i thank both of you for being here i thank everybody who was a part of this draft day. And again, those names will be listed on the site in the article. I thank you guys for participating here in the YouTube chat, listening to the podcast starting next week. We have rookie position previews on Tuesday. We've got Matt Waldman back on the show with Dan Schneier.

He'll be here as well. So we will talk to you next Tuesday.