Fantasy Football Today - FFT in 5 - Low Floor Surprises in Rounds 2-4: Breece Hall, Mark Andrews, & More! (06/03 Fantasy Football podcast)

Episode Date: June 3, 2023

Dan Schneier joins Adam Aizer to discuss players with low floors for the 2023 season. You can also follow the full-length Fantasy Football Today podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fan...tasy-football-today-podcast/id261735167 Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs. You can listen to Fantasy Football Today in 5 on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast." Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:29 and I'm joined by Dan Schneier. What's up, Dan? How you doing, Adam? Oh, I'm doing great. Look at you, smiling. You're happy. You're ready to... I don't know why, because I feel like I'm obviously feeling that Jewish guilt.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I said something mean to you on the last FFT, and I'm starting to feel a little guilty. It was great. It was a zinger. It was terrific. You was a zinger. It was terrific. You shouldn't feel bad about it at all. You should feel bad about talking smack about some players right now who are being drafted in rounds two through four.
Starting point is 00:00:55 I want to know who has the lowest floors. Let's start with Brees Hall. Brees Hall is going 29th overall on Fantasy Pros PPR ADP. And yeah, I understand the point that you're making here. But what do you think the floor is? The floor could really low here depending on how that recovery goes we've seen not only that we've seen players like saquon barkley who were elite running backs at one point have a really bad season that first year off the acl i don't really trust running backs that first year off the acl the jets added a really talented back in this draft who fits the system perfectly
Starting point is 00:01:24 and there's a chance with a Aaron Rodgers here in the mix. This will be a more pass heavy approach and a more pass heavy team with option, the passing game to go away from B's Hall in a passing game. So I don't know that I see this profile outside of the talent there that makes me so excited about spending such a high capital pick on him. Yeah. Barkley was really bad the year after he came back from the ACL and he was not even a top 30 running back on a per game basis. He was, I think, 24th in PPR, close to 30th in non PPR. I was interested in this one. You think Mark Andrews is a low floor the point with him where we're expecting him to get back to his elite ways of 2021, but so much has changed. Sure. The offense might be more pass heavy, but now they have three legitimate options in the passing game to go through. And if Lamar Jackson
Starting point is 00:02:14 takes the system the way I think he will, I think he's underrated from a processing standpoint. I don't think the offense in the passing game will revolve around Mark Andrews at all. And that was a big reason for his success, in my opinion, the target volume there, especially in 2021 when he outpaced Travis Kelsey. So I just feel like the targets are less guaranteed at this point in that offense for him. And if he's not getting that same kind of volume, I don't trust using that kind of capital
Starting point is 00:02:37 on a tight end like him. I'm not so sure I buy the rest of their receiving core. That would be my honor, right? I mean, I don't think Beckham has much left in the tank at this point. Bateman is kind of, to me, right? That'd be my honor, right? I mean, I don't think Beckham has much left in the tank at this point. Bateman is kind of, to me, a downfield guy, a big play guy, but not a consistent target getter.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Say Flowers is a total wild card. I still think Andrews on a team that is definitely going to throw more than they have in the past. I still think Andrews is the best receiver. I still think he leads the team in receiving. It's possible. I mean, obviously he's the one who does the best rapport with Lamar Jackson,
Starting point is 00:03:06 so I can see it happening as well. I just feel like with more mouths to feed, if he's not getting that same kind of volume, when I'm taking tight ends at this point last year, I lost a lot of leagues by taking Mark Andrews and Kyle Pitts. At this point, I'm kind of Travis Kelsey or bust at that position. That's fine. But I do think it's worth pointing out.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Andrews was excellent before his injury and before the Lamar Jackson injury. So just to be fair to him, he was living up to, I think, to his draft position. The last guy you want to talk about is Travis Etienne. Etienne is a third, fourth-round pick, almost 36th overall. I do see some potential problems here as well. I still think he's – I don't know if he has that low of a floor, Dan, because I think he's going to be involved in the offense. I think he's a dynamic player,
Starting point is 00:03:48 but, and I love the offense, obviously, but you have some concerns for Etienne. So I see him up at 23rd overall. We may be looking at fantasy pros. So I think, and I think he's kind of rising a bit, but the floor case for me is simple. Not much involvement at all in the passing game last year, despite this profile of being a pass receiver. I only think that goes away and gets worse because
Starting point is 00:04:09 they added Calvin Ridley. And because as Trevor Lawrence progresses as a passer and a processor, there's fewer targets for the checkdowns. He's going to be able to get the ball in different spots that I don't like red zone wise. I think he could lose his role entirely there. He was not an efficient red zone back last year at all. It's not built to be a red zone back. And they add tank Bixby, who is a very efficient red zone back. I think you brought that to my attention. His numbers at Auburn in the red zone were phenomenal. And that's on an offense that was basically run only to the point where no one was respecting the pass game. So I think if without the red zone role, without a receiving role, I'm looking at a guy who might be like a 70 to 80 yard total guy in every game without many touchdowns, without many perceptions.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And that is a low floor for me. You're right. We were looking at slightly different things, both on the same website, different sources. So whether it's round two pick, whether it's round three pick, I hadn't seen a lot of round two buzz on ETN. That would be pretty low, pretty high. So that would surprise me. All right, that's Dan Schneier. I'm Adam Azer. Going in for Chris Towers here on Fantasy Football Today in 5.
Starting point is 00:05:12 We'll talk to you later.

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