Fantasy Football Today - FFT on CBSSN: Sleepers, Breakouts & Busts You Need to Know! (08/18 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are the Bears back? Are the Jets done? We have Sleepers, Breakouts, and Bust for you here on Fantasy Football today, presented by BEDMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. I'm Jamie Eisenberg. That's Dave Richard. That's Heath Cumm. Got a lot to cover on a busy Monday coming off a busy preseason weekend and a lot of fantasy drafts still coming up. So let's get right to it. The Bears are they back. Are they back? I mean, listen, we were panicked.
Starting point is 00:00:38 It was Caleb Williams stinks and maybe DeAndre Swift and maybe DJ Moore and maybe, maybe, maybe, Caleb Williams look great against the bill's backups. He absolutely did. I'm not ranking them as the top 12 quarterback anymore. I actually moved DJ Moore down in my rankings. Moved Romo Dunzee up. But no, I wouldn't say they're back. They haven't been back in a really long time.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I didn't really move Caleb Williams down, but I never had him in the top 12. So I think that QB15 range is about the right spot. You should expect a second year quarterback in his first year in a new offense to maybe have some struggles early in the preseason and in training camp. And it looks like he's starting to work through some of that. Like I said, Dave said, I don't think he's a top 12 quarterback, but he certainly has the upside to be a lot better than a top 12 quarter. So after watching that, again, it was against Bill's backups. You were there. You saw a joint practice you went there last week.
Starting point is 00:01:25 So you got to see a little bit more of ones versus ones. and Caleb had his ups and downs as he kind of had all. He actually had way more ups than downs in the practice. Now, he didn't take a lot of chances down field. There were a couple times when he did, and he connected. I remember a deep post to Romo Dunzei that Odunzee leaped up for. That was great. He had a great connection with Loveland.
Starting point is 00:01:45 That was kind of like the one that we saw in the preseason game, but he didn't have any turnovers. He wasn't really that much off target. He just kept it kind of short. It's almost like his instructions that day, Jamie, were, take what the defense gives you. And there's a lot of that in the National Football League. And when that happens, that leads to a high completion rate.
Starting point is 00:02:02 You get a lot of yards as a result. Sometimes you get extra yards because receivers make plays after the catch. And we know Chicago has a lot of guys that can do that. They can make plays after the catch. And those numbers do rack up. It was a good practice, I would say, for Caleb Williams. Why DJ Moore down? Why Roma Dunzaa?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Because DJ Moore seems to be used more like he was late last season. And do you remember that? His ADOT was under six yards per target. or yards per average depth of target. I should know that step by now. And he had a lot of targets. I think that number comes down a little bit. And if he's just going to be this kind of short area safety valve for the bears
Starting point is 00:02:37 and Romo Dunezay is going to be the downfield threat. And we know that Caleb Williams can hit those downfield throws. We saw that in the game on Sunday. Then, yeah, I'm not as excited about D.J. Moore, and I'm much more excited about Romo Dunez. I'm still going to draft D.J. Moore first. But he's more of like a round five-ish type pick, whereas Romo Dunezay has crept into round seven for me. We're going to get into sleepers, breakouts, and bust later in the show, but let's
Starting point is 00:02:59 give you a preview because DeAndre Swift breakout running back for you. The Andre Swift bus running back for you. Let's have this argument right now. Oh, right. Right off the top. Well, DeAndre Swift's being drafted somewhere around RB20 in most leagues, in round five in most leagues. He's never finished worse than RB24. His best
Starting point is 00:03:15 season on a per game basis, RB15 with Ben Johnson, who he's been reunited with in the season when Jamal Williams had 17 rushing touchdowns. They added nothing besides a seventh rounder and Kyle Monong guy. The guy who was supposed to be the clear number two, Roshan Johnson hasn't been healthy. And nobody in Chicago ever even mentions the guy. It's amazing how many press conferences they can have without talking about him. It's DeAndre Swift.
Starting point is 00:03:37 He's the lead running back. He's going to be a top 20 running back and he might be a top 12 running back. So I'm going to tell you the biggest problem that I saw at pairs practice on Friday. It was the offensive line. And a lot of it was more because of what they were doing before the snap. Five fall start penalties for the starting unit. That pushes the ball back as everybody. knows. There was a holding penalty. That brought a playback. We know that they've got issues up front. I know they added some great guys at Garden Center. This unit needs a lot of work. And it's preseason. It's training camp. They can always get better. I think that we're going to consistently see multiple running backs in Chicago's backfield. It's going to be DeAndre
Starting point is 00:04:12 Swift and. And Manang got hurt in Friday's practice. We know that you already said it. Rochon got hurt. They could add another back. And there's a bunch of running backs that are available. They might make a trade. We've seen Ryan Poles make deals before in season. So that worries me a little bit more. And last but not least, if I'm drafting a running back who could be RB 24, I don't want to take that guy in round number five. So he's somebody that I'm interested in, but it's got to be lower than what the ADP says. I think we're reaching a little bit on DeAndre Swift. The only pushback to what you said was could be RB 24. He's never been worse than RB 24. That is the floor. And you're drafting Swift closer to his floor than
Starting point is 00:04:47 the ceiling. I'm very curious his role in the passing game. I think that's going to kind of sway where he is. And his best year catching the ball was with Ben Johnson when he was the passing game coordinator for the line. So hopefully that's where DeAndres Swift will save you if you are taking him in the fifth round. Let's go to the Jets, which has a lot of, a team that has a lot of people panicking because Justin Fields has not looked good, did not look good against the Giants.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Briseall is in a rotation now with Braylin Allen and maybe Isaiah Davis. Garrett Wilson's obviously struggling as a result of Justin Fields struggle. So Heath, were you coming out on Justin Fields now who you have as a breakout candidate? I have not lowered Justin Fields based on the preseason at all. And part of that is because my argument for drafting him as high as I
Starting point is 00:05:21 is that in a one quarterback league, floor doesn't really matter. There's going to be six quarterbacks on the waiver wire that might score you 20 points in a given week in most leagues, not all. Know your league if it's different. I am a little bit worried about Garrett Wilson just because Fields can succeed
Starting point is 00:05:37 as a starting fantasy quarterback without having good passing numbers. If he's throwing for 200 yards a game, Garrett Wilson's not going to be a very good pick. It was hard for me when we looked at wide receivers to find a bust, and I didn't pick Garrett Wilson because on CBS, he's a rat. down four or five pick. I think that's where he belongs. Whereas on most sites, he's a round
Starting point is 00:05:56 three pick. Am I panicking if I move Justin Fields outside of my top 12? And I mean just outside of my top 12? It's your rankings. I've moved Drake May ahead of him. I've seen enough from Drake May to be encouraged by him. I know that he doesn't have a receiver like Garrett Wilson like Justin Fields has. But when I've watched Justin Fields in the preseason, and I read all the reports out of Jetskamp, I'm reminded of how inferior of a passer he was in Chicago and in Pittsburgh. No one's drafting him for his arm. It's the craziest thing. It's his legs. But what's going to happen when he has games where he doesn't run for a touchdown or he doesn't run for 75 yards? And he has a couple of turnovers. And by the way, they have a lot of running backs that
Starting point is 00:06:32 they want to get the ball to. And they're going to play at a slow pace. There are too many issues for me to overlook on fields compared to other low-end QB-1s, such as Drake May, such as Jared Gough. I like golf more. I like Dak Prescott more. I like Kyler Murray more. So I'm going to reach for those guys ahead of Justin Fields, who let's not forget, he does have an injury track record, but I do get where you're coming from as far as the no floor. If you're in a typical 12-team league, maybe 16 quarterbacks get drafted. We talk about it all the time. There are like 20 quarterbacks that we'd be okay starting. So if you draft Fields, he stinks, you cut them, okay, you move on, you pick somebody else off the waiver wire. So if the price is right
Starting point is 00:07:12 on Fields, I get it. But for me, that price has to be round 10. A couple of news items before we get to some injuries. Joe Flacco named the Brown starting quarterback, so we can all celebrate what that means for Jerry Judy, David Njoku, Cedric Tillman, and maybe now Isaiah Bond, who they have officially signed the game. I can't believe we're pumping our fists and saying yes for Joe Flacko. He's thrown for 4,700
Starting point is 00:07:31 yards and 32 touchdowns in his last 17 games. It's 2025, and Joe Flacco is still somebody that we're rooting for. Last time he was a quarterback for the Browns, they went to the playoffs. He was the comeback player of the year at the end of the 2023 season. Fox Sports is reporting that Brian Robinson Jr. is on the trade block. There was a report in
Starting point is 00:07:47 Jacksonville today that maybe tank Bigsby could be traded. Heath, how much are you monitoring these potential trade rumors, especially the Brian Robinson one, because it is coming from a national site? One of those guys getting traded to the Bears is the only way Dave's working on. That would terrify me. And obviously, for the other guys on those teams who are monitoring,
Starting point is 00:08:04 because if they go away, it makes it better for Jacori Kroski-Marit. It makes it better for Travis E.T.N. and Bachel Tootin. But at this point, I think you just expect they're going to be on their teams. And I think if you're drafting Robinson can still be a flex option, traded, you know, could be traded to Dallas. I don't think they'll trade them in division, but it could be a situation like Houston if they're worried about Joe Mixing, you know, so just something to keep an eye on there, and you may see a running back for running back trade. Maybe Breece Hall goes to Washington and Robinson goes there to alleviate some headaches
Starting point is 00:08:30 that could be dealing with, that those teams could be dealing with because of some complaining that we're not aware of. We have a Devon A chance situation to worry about. So he's a team that can trade for you. I'm going to come back to you on this one here because he's dealing with a soft tissue injury in his lower body. Mike McDaniel did not say what it was, but you are the high guy on Devon HM by a lot, probably the highest guy in the industry, have him as your second running back, at least prior to this news.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Are you concerned yet about HN and are you moving me down? I feel a little concern in the inside. It's not coming out to the rankings yet. My general rule of thumb, and this will change probably next week as we get even closer to week one, but we're still far enough away
Starting point is 00:09:05 from actually playing games at this point that I'm going to give it a week. If we're a week from now and he's not practicing and it's still this undetermined soft tissue injury, then yeah i'll be lowering him down a little and what would be the telltale sign if the dolphins acquire another running back of a meaning not necessarily i think in there assigned somebody i think in their in their case though just because they lost somebody that they were relying on it would depend on the
Starting point is 00:09:29 level of running back that they're getting if they go get a devon singletary or something like that they make a big let's say for a brian robinson when i say big you know a third round pick four right right right that's what i'm saying yes then it's something like that that would make me nervous But until then, I'm with Heath. I'm keeping him where he is in my running back rankings, top five type of fantasy running back. Some other injuries that we're keeping an eye on. Matthew Stafford back at practice, at least for now on Monday. So hopefully he's going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Just something to keep an eye on there when you're obviously drafting Pooka Nakua and Devante Adams. You got Justin Jefferson hopeful to practice this week. That would be great for anybody that's drafting in this coming periods. Next weekend is going to be a lot of draft. So hopefully Jefferson's back and good to go. Kenneth Walker back at practice, but dealing with his foot injury, something that's a little bit nerve-wracking for me. Marshawn Lloyd going to miss some time, so good news for Josh Jacobs.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Quentin Johnson is probably going to be in the concussion protocol, not officially, but did suffer concussion in the game against the Rams. And Jalen McMillan dealing with a neck injury, something to keep an eye on there, which could be good for a mecca, Abuka, especially with Chris Godwin, still dealing with his ankle injury. All right, we're going to take a break here on Fantasy Football Table when we come back and to get into our sleepers looking at quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end, guys that are going to be worth taking with late-round picks.
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Starting point is 00:11:18 Welcome back to Fantasy Football today, presented by BetMGM. We're getting into sleepers right now, quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end, and we're going to involve you. So we're going to show you our list at each position, and then we did some ex-poles to have you guys vote on which sleepers you like best, breakouts, et cetera. But we'll start with the quarterbacks here, and here are the three quarterbacks that we're saying are the players that we're looking for later in drafts. We talked about this, about maybe Justin Fields, and you could take one of these other quarterback instead of fields,
Starting point is 00:11:43 or you can maybe just pass on somebody like Fields and take a Jordan Love, who's Heath Sleeper, J.J. McCarthy, who's Dave Sleeper and Trevor Lawrence for me. So Heath, I'll start with you, Jordan Love dealing with the left thumb injury, expected to be fine for week one. Can he be a top 12 guy? Yeah, and this is an injury I'm pretty much ignoring because it's supposed to be healed and it's the left thumb. This is what I love about what we do is last year I hated Jordan Love because he was being drafted as the sixth quarterback overall. And now I get to love Jordan Love and I basically have them in the same spot. The Packers had a really strange year.
Starting point is 00:12:12 They went super run heavy and Jordan Love didn't run at all because he wasn't healthy. Now he's hopefully healthy by the time we get to week one. He has a true number one wide receiver in Matthew Golden. And I expect him to give us the top 12 season. I just hope he stays healthy because that knee injury week one, the groin injury midseason, he didn't run. And he was a much better running quarterback in 2023, which helped Pat his stats, one rushing touchdown last year, four rushing touchdowns the year before.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You mentioned there's 20 quarterbacks that you'd feel comfortable starting. Is J.J. McCarthy one of them? You would go into week one with J.J. McCarthy as your only quarterback. I would, and even though I don't love the matchup, if it came to that, maybe it's a really deep league, like an 18-team league, something like that, then sure, I'd be okay with J.J. McCarthy. And a lot of it has to do with how he's been practicing this summer. He was up and down.
Starting point is 00:12:56 But he just recently had a joint practice against the Patriots, and by the time that practice was over, he had built up some confidence. He was lighting up the Patriots defense. He looks like somebody who could be really, really good. And think about the quarterbacks who have done well with Kevin O'Connell over the last three seasons. Sam Darnold, Kirk Cousins, in just more than half of the games that O'Connell has coached those quarterbacks, 22 or more fantasy points. And I think that that's a number that J.J. McCarthy could reach.
Starting point is 00:13:21 He runs a little bit too, and he's got a great receiving core, especially once Jordan Addison comes back in week four. I don't know if I'd want to start McCarthy, but I definitely want to roster McCarthy just to see what develops. So a good call there, especially somebody you can get for free on draft day. I'm going to go Trevor Lawrence. I like what I see so far in the preseason. Liam Cohen, I think it's going to be fantastic for him. And speaking of rushing two seasons on his resume with over 330 rushing yards, we saw last year Baker Mayfield saw a spike in his rushing.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I think Lawrence with his legs will make some plays. But obviously what we're counting on with Lawrence is Brian Thomas Jr. and Travis Hunter. And if you can get those guys going, stay healthy himself. We may get the year that you've been waiting for for Trevor Lawrence, which I know you've been very anti- Trevor Lawrence, but this could be one of those seasons where everything sort of clicks for him. And again, the preseason looks pretty good so far. So let's see which guys you like the best.
Starting point is 00:14:03 So the way that I frame the question is, which sleeper do you like the best and they like Jordan Love the best followed by McCarthy followed by Lawrence I thought Lawrence would be second love would be first but JJ McCarthy certainly getting a lot of love maybe a lot of Vikings fans voting Thomas Schaefer pushing it in that direction so JJ McCarthy number two guy there but Jordan Love being drafted first and being selected first here based on the X poll let's look at the running backs here we got Tyrone Tracy as a sleeper for you tank Bigsby as a sleeper for you and Braylin Allen is somebody for me so Dave Tracy he's almost pushing himself in a breakout category range as opposed to sleeper category range. You're not getting him as late as some of these other running backs, but you like the outlook for him as a Giants guy. Absolutely. And I think he is going to be the Giants running back to begin the season. And I remember how he ended last season and the talent was good. Unfortunately, the fumbles were bad. If he can stop that from happening, could you fumble a little bit less, Tyrone? If he does that, he could end up having that job for the whole season. We know he's a good pass catcher. And this Giants offense is starting to put some things together. The improvement at
Starting point is 00:14:59 quarterback, especially in the preseason games, without Malik neighbors on the field, it actually looks passable. So I think that there's a chance that Tyrone Tracy could end up being one of these running backs that finishes top 24 this year and you're drafting them in round seven or eight. Got the yo-yo of the Jaguar's running backs. It's Bigsby one week. It's ETN one week. It's Baciel Tootin getting some love.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Bigsby's the guy though. Is that the one you're targeting first or is that the one that you're settling on based on ADP because ETN is still going first. Biggsby right now going second and he was the one that was the starter in the second preseason game. Full PPR I would still take ETN first. Half PPR I'd probably take Bigsby. Non. I would definitely take Bigsby. And I, it has
Starting point is 00:15:33 been kind of confusing how they've used them in the preseason. My expectations have remained pretty similar that Travis E.TN. is going to be the guy that has a chance to catch 50 plus passes. Tank Bigsby's going to be the guy who is the primary rushing back, and Bachel Tootin is their third running back. And if somebody gets hurt, he's going to get a great opportunity. So I still think both E.T.N. and Bigsby are actually good values of their current ADP right now. And if you're telling me, Tanks Biggsme's on the trade block and he ends up on the Dallas Cowboys, that'd be even better. That ADP, by the way, is a hundredth or later. drafts. His ADP will skyrocket if he goes to become a guaranteed starter anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And he did look good in the passing game, which I think a lot of people have questions on. For me, I like Bigsby the best right now, but I would settle for Tutton, just because I think Tutin is going to at some point in the midseason, middle of the season, have an opportunity to sort of maybe prove himself to be the best guy. Remember, this is the guy the regime brought in as opposed to the other two guys in terms of ETN and Bigsby that he inherited. I'm going to go Breeland Allen as my favorite sleeper, maybe at any position, just because I'm scared of Bruce Hall. The running back schedule is great for the Jets. And Hall right now struggling.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Allen looking fantastic. He's the bigger physical guy. We talked about this on our podcast, that he could be the one working at the goal line. I just don't like what I see from Breece Hall right now and what I'm hearing about Bruce Hall right now. And obviously everybody's sort of falling in love with Braylon Allen. Another guy, I think we're going to see his ADP skyrocket.
Starting point is 00:16:48 So where will you draft him? I'm drafting him in like the round seven, around eight ranges. Wow. And his ADP is late round 12? Yeah, I don't think it's going to stay there. You know, once we start to get to a lot of drafts. And obviously, when they start to see stupid rankings like mine. But I think Braylon is in a great spot.
Starting point is 00:17:00 So the three guys that I sort of put in the similar category, Jordan Mason, Zach Charbonnet, Brayland Allen. I think they're all going to be significant contributors in their backfield right away. And an injury occurs. We could see them as a featured guy there. Lottery ticket, certainly for sure. Let's see what the X poll shows us.
Starting point is 00:17:14 So 37% in favor of Allen, slightly headed at Tracey. If I did at Bigsbee, I think we can all look at these guys and say we want them on our fantasy rosters. And probably the same thing with the receivers here. So Dave, you're going with Emeka, Abuka, who also could be a guy graduating to break out status pretty soon. Yeah. I got a feeling the fans are going to.
Starting point is 00:17:30 going to like Abuka. Luther Burden for you, sticking with your Bears love, going with DeAndre Swift as a breakout running back Luther Burden as a sleeper wide receiver. And I'm going to go Keon Coleman, who at this point is my favorite Bill's wide receiver. So Dave, Abuka is just flying up ADP, flying up rankless like the sleepers might be gone by round six. Right. I know.
Starting point is 00:17:51 It's a problem. Well, what's his ADP right now? It's 108. And it's already gone up 16 spots since. So even if he goes up another 16. spots. We're talking around 85th overall. That's round 8. And I think that's a good time to take
Starting point is 00:18:06 him back here. What? It is? How bad is the math? Whatever. I like Abuka. I've actually seen all three of these wide receivers practice this offseason and I think Abuka is going to line up wide. I think he's going to play a lot. I'm even starting to get less and less worried about what's going to
Starting point is 00:18:22 happen with Chris Godwin comes back. I don't think it's going to be a factor. I think Evans is going to be the number one. I think Abuka is going to be the number two. I've totally bought in. I think he's going to be outstanding. In regards to Burden, he's not playing with the starters right now. We saw Zakias as the slot receiver,
Starting point is 00:18:37 which he might not be getting enough attention if he's going to have that role at some point. There was the story told on the game broadcast last night. Greg Olson sort of revealed a conversation with Brian Poles that Poles told him or told them that Burden might be better than DJ Moore and Romo Dunzee sooner rather than later. Do you care about where Burden's lining up right now
Starting point is 00:18:56 or he just easy target late in drafts? No, and I think it's, I do. I love that he's still playing with the second teams. It's the only reason we can still find him in round 12 or 13 and not where Agbuka's going in round 7 or 8. I think that we've seen so many times from these talented first or second round wide receivers that it's a slow start to the beginning of the year,
Starting point is 00:19:12 maybe not even playing a full complement of snaps, and then they're league winners in the second half, and that's exactly what burden could be. We'll talk about it more in just a minute, but I want a guy that Ben Johnson went and prioritized in his first draft. You just got to be patient with him. Don't go dropping him for Peyton Barber. in week four or something.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I hope Burden does well because just easy, easy target. And he looks the part. He really does. You see him. He's going to be the slot receiver and I think that's going to be fantastic for him. Keon Coleman right now is my favorite Bill's receiver. I know we all like Khalil Shakir, but he's dealing with a high ankle sprain. I think I keep saying this.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I go back to last year. He had those two games before the wrist injury. Coleman looked like things were starting to click for him. This Bill's receiving core is so incomplete right now. I think Shakir is a good two or maybe three. I know they like Josh Palmer. I know Dalton Kincaid's got an opportunity here. Coleman could easily be their alpha, and he's making a lot of plays in camp,
Starting point is 00:20:02 and hopefully Josh Allen continues looking. I think it's going to be touchdowns that makes him a great fantasy option if he can get there. But right now, a good third or fourth receiver you can target around pick 100. He keeps just moving up in my rankings. I like the setup for him, though, especially as long as Shakir is out. All right, let's show you what the X poll looks like here. No surprise that Abuka is the favorite again. The way I framed it sort of puts it in that regard.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So Abuka running away with this pole, 73.3 percent ahead of Keon Coleman and ahead of Luther Burden. the tight ends and the sleepers that we're looking at here. And Heath, your Bears love continues. Colston Loveland's the sleeper for you, Zach Ertz, Dave for you, and Don't Kincave for me. So I'm the Bill's guy. You're the Bears guy. You mentioned it because Ben Johnson goes out and gets this guy. When in the world have we ever gotten to draft a top 10 skill position player in the double digit rounds in their first year, especially when everybody loves, like everybody loves
Starting point is 00:20:50 this offense and what Ben Johnson might do for him, this is an absolute gift to get Colston Loveland after the top 100 picks. and you can often get him after the top 120. Do you feel like if you draft him, though, you have to draft a second tight end? I would prefer to draft a second tight end, but you can go draft Zach Ertz too. The other thing you could do,
Starting point is 00:21:06 if it's a smaller league, you can probably find a tight end like Ertz or Jake Ferguson or Dallas Goddard on the waiver wire. So if Loveland just doesn't strike in the first couple of weeks, you put him on the bench, you find another tight end off the waiver wire. Zach Ertz was great last year. How much is this tied to Terry McLaren, though,
Starting point is 00:21:22 that maybe McLaurin doesn't show up early in the season or doesn't perform early in the season, and Erz just continues to be a go-to guy for Jayne. I think Ertz is going to continue to get targets. He's 34 years old, so he's only three years removed from his 28-year-old season. How was my math there, Heath? It was terrible. I did that on purpose.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I think he's going to be a good short-air target and red zone guy for the commanders. I think defenses are going to pay a lot of attention to McLorm when he comes back, and Debo Samuel as well, it's going to open things up for Ertz, maybe a little more touchdown dependent than I'd like to admit. But if he's getting four or five catches per game, 56 yards on top of it, that's a good low-end, tight end in fantasy. And an easy guy to pair, as you? you said with Colston Loveland and maybe even Dalton Kincaid as well, just like the setup for him again.
Starting point is 00:22:01 As I said, this bill's receiving court is, it just feels like the same thing like last year, wide open, except we were drafting Kincaid. Similarly, Jordan Love Point, you know, you're drafting Kincaid as a top five-ish tight end last year. I know I overhyped him and, you know, didn't come through. We all did. I think the injuries were a big part of it, though. Forget about how he finished. You know, just his playing time and everything, how it sort of developed. Two separate knee injuries, played through both of them. Obviously, was not at the level, I think that the bills were hoping for, and certainly what fantasy managers were hoping for. getting him with a late-round pick.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So you can take a guy like Lovelland, a guy like Kincaid. I probably wouldn't pair those two guys together. But somebody like Ertz and some of the other guys, you mentioned, a Jake Ferguson, a Dallas Goddard, you know, some of the veteran guys. So you can see what everybody looks like, looks at this on X. And I think Ertz, you know, it's funny because, like, he's probably going to be the safest by far. Maybe not the same upside as those guys. But when he plays the Eagles, those two games, he's going to go off like we saw last year.
Starting point is 00:22:49 So Loveland, though, taking advantage of the hype maybe of what it could be, or maybe just Jacob Gibbs voting over and over and over again to make this poll look like it is. All right. We're going to take a break right now. We come back and get into the breakout options. Quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end. Dave is going to give you breakouts that are in round one based on how his sleepers went. I think I do have one that's going to be like a top 30. And he is going to tell you about one that he likes that's a borderline round one guy as a breakout as well.
Starting point is 00:23:12 That's next year on F50. Welcome back to Fantasy. football today presented by Bet MGM. Dave can't count. I don't know what team players are on. We're all over the place here. Let's get some breakout quarterbacks here as we take a look at guys who I may think are still on the wrong team. You got Bo Nix. Dave, as a breakout candidate, Heath, you got Justin Fields. I have Drake May. Bo Nix came on really strong end of last season. The Broncos offense looked great in their second preseason game without him, some weapons developing Troy Franklin, for example. How good can Bo Nix be? I think he can be really good. We know that he can do
Starting point is 00:23:55 some things as a rusher. And I know that the Broncos have added some good running backs to their backfield. And that could take away some opportunities for Bonex, but I still think he can contribute on the ground. It's what he can contribute through the air. And I think he'll be better there this year than he was last year. In his last 13 games, he averaged over 25 fantasy points per game in six point per passing touchdown leagues. That's exciting. That would have made him fifth best last year. Overall, he was barely in the top 10. So I think he can take that step forward and be a good fantasy starting quarter back in 2025. You said you're not budging off of Justin Fields
Starting point is 00:24:27 despite the struggles in the preseason and the training camp reports. And so just reiterate the upside versus the downside. Yeah, well, I'll just talk about the passing for a second because every year he's been in the career in the NFL, his completion percentage has gotten better, his interception rate's gotten better, his passer rating's gotten better.
Starting point is 00:24:43 The last three years, the sack rate's gotten better. I care more about that than I do about what he looks like in training camp practices in a couple preseason games. I will say this. Got off to a slow start with. the Steelers in the first two games last year. Last four that he started, over 24 fantasy points per game were his average, which would have put him in the top five conversation. So let's see if he can sort of write the ship a little bit once we get to week one.
Starting point is 00:25:03 For me, I'm going with Drake May, just like him all offseason, continue to move him up. He's a top 12 quarterback. Last year, his 10 healthy games, if he would have taken those projected stats, he would have been third in terms of rushing yards, which is obviously something that we like, would have been 630 rushing yards for him. So an easy guy to target late if he continues to look like this as a passer connecting with Stefan Diggs, Kyle Williams, DeMara Douglas, Matt Collins, the group that they have there,
Starting point is 00:25:24 I just think he's going to be a good second-year quarterback, take a big leap. Let's see what the voters decided here. So a slight edge for Drake May over Bo Nix, which is a little bit of surprise, but I think a lot of fantasy managers getting excited about Drake May. Obviously, Justin Fields is not as excited, but still Fields might have the most upside of this trio based on what he could do with his rushing potential. Let's look at the running backs here.
Starting point is 00:25:45 DeAndre Swift for you, Heath. We touched on that at the start of the show. Bucky Irving for you, Dave, and I'm going with another Patriot. I guess I'm an AFC East guy with the Bill's Sleepers and the Patriots breakouts here. But D'Andre Swift, again, just you like the setup for him with Ben Johnson. Absolutely love it. Offensive line will be better. The rushing will be more efficient.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Very little competition for touches. It will be a two-backback field, but he's the main guy. And he's shown huge receiving upside with Ben Johnson in the past. So Dave, Bucky Irving, excuse me, Bo Nicks, solid rookie season, picked up as the second half took off. Bucky Irving, same thing. Exactly same thing. And that's why when you look at his fantasy point per game total from last year, year, it's at 14.4, and you say, wait a minute, wasn't he awesome? And he was, but the first
Starting point is 00:26:25 half of the year, he really wasn't getting that opportunity. Now it's about what he can do over a 17 game slate. And if he does, how he finished last year, he's going to be awesome. But last year, when he was taking off, he was playing under 60% of the snaps in most of his games for Tampa. I think he can get a little bit more work on his plate. We know what he can do as a pass catcher out of the back field. And that offensive line's only going to get a little bit stronger once Tristan Worf's comes back at left tackle. I think this offense is a little bit. about to take off. I want the running back in it. Bucky Irving's going to score a ton of touch.
Starting point is 00:26:54 How much does Rashad White's injury right now play into him getting better or maybe just staying the same? I think it actually makes him better because I think in a world where Rashad White isn't available to Tampa, you're going to see Bucky Irving playing more on passing downs. I think they'll give him that role over Sean Tucker. Sean Tucker might take a few carries away from Bucky in that regard, but I still want the running back that's going to catch a lot of passes, be more explosive, work at the goal line. I think that's going to end up being Bucky Irving this year. Hopefully that's the case.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And, you know, the Bucks are sort of indicated that they may want to save him for the end of the season. But if there's no Roussade White at the beginning of the season, then based on Sean Tucker's performances, could be great for Bucky Irving at the start. But it's clearly going to be a big part of their offensive plan. Same thing for Trevionn Henderson. Clearly, a guy that's getting a lot of hype, maybe a little out of control hype. But we'll see what he does in tandem with Ramondre Stevenson or Antonio Gibson. Or it'll just be the Trevion Henderson show. Another touchdown he scored in the second preseason game.
Starting point is 00:27:45 He's going to be electric. I have him in the third round at this point. I'm just not holding back at this point. Draft Trayvion Henderson and draft him with confidence. He could be awesome. I think he's going to be this year's Jemir Gibbs. Just somebody that may take a little bit of time to establish himself as a lead guy in his backfield. But once he does get that opportunity, is going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Heath, not a lot of love for your guy there with the Andre Swift. Understandably so when he's compared to these other two guys, though, with Bucky Irving and Trevian Anderson. So close in the poll there between Irving and Henderson. Let's go to the wide receivers here. Dave, you got George Pickens with his move from Pittsburgh to Dallas as a breakout candidate. Heath, you're going with Xavier Worthy with the potential. intervention looming for Rashi Rice. And I got Ricky Pearsall as a breakout candidate with the injuries in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:28:24 So Dave, George Pickens. Are we headed for a career year for him? I think we are. And it's not going to take that much about 1,200 yards and certainly 7,8 touchdowns. And I just, I think about this Dallas offense, big questions about the running game, huge questions about the defense. What do they have that's good? It's the passing game.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And I think George Pickens, if teams are going to have to make a decision about who they're going to double between C.D. Lamb and George Pickens. And I think the decision is pretty easy. It's going to be C.D. Lamb. That's going to open up George Pickens. We've seen him a ton in single coverage. Make some huge plays down the sideline. An awesome contested catch machine.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Rave reviews for him out of training camp as well. Love him as a high-end number three wide receiver. How much does Rice's suspension looming factor into Worthy's breakout potential? I don't think it factors into the potential. It factors into the certainty. If Rushi Rice misses the second half of the season, Xavier Worthy is going to be a top 15 wide receiver and maybe a top 10 wide receiver in the second half of the season.
Starting point is 00:29:16 If Rushy Rice stays healthy, then we're going to have a bit of a battle between which one has the true breakout. And I think Rice will have more targets, but Worthy's targets might be worth more points because they're going down the field. What he did in the last five or six games of the regular season and in the playoffs, that looks like a rookie-wide receiver. Like we talked about with the Munrault-St. Brown, we talked about it with a lot of other rookies that that usually carries over to year two unless Rushie Rice comes in and steals all the targets. That number, by the way, in those last six games were worthy, 21.6 P.P. points per game. That would be insane. Just for anybody catching up, Rice is going to be eligible to play the first four games of the season. Then there may be a suspension after he has the hearing on September 30th. So like you said, the second half of the season, if Rice is missing
Starting point is 00:29:59 maybe six games, maybe eight games, we just don't know. It could be four games. Then Worthy has an opportunity to really accelerate and get to that point to where you were talking about over 21 PPR points per game. Ricky Pearsall will hopefully get off to a good start because the 49ers is dealing with Brandon Ayuk out for the likely part of the season coming back from the knee injury. And we don't know what's going on with Joanne Jennings with his calf, potentially contract situation tied into that. Piercel looked great in the second preseason game for the 49ers, and hopefully we'll continue to lead this team in targets, or at least the wide receivers in targets, when
Starting point is 00:30:27 everybody's healthy. But looking like a second year breakout, three games last year with at least six targets, had 17 or more PPR points in all three of those games, two of them coming in the final two games of the season. So we got the poll here. Pearsall over Pickens, which is a surprise. Both those guys overworthy, probably a surprise. It's a bad job by the people voting.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah. I almost think it should be like flipped the other way around and worthy would have been the guy that they voted for. I love all three of these receivers, actually. All right, we got three breakout tight end candidates here. One broke out as a rookie in Brock Bowers. You got a rookie that could break out this year in Tyler Warren and Tucker Kraft.
Starting point is 00:31:00 A lot of people push back on why is Bowers a breakout. Explain why. Because I'm drafting with a one-two term, which means I don't think the 15.8 PPR fantasy points per game last year is what he's going to do. He got one of the biggest quarterback upgrades in the NFL going from Gardner, menshoe, sorry, and Aiden O'Connell to Gino Smith. He got an offensive coordinator upgrade as well. He only had a 3% touchdown rate. We talk about Trey McBride's coming touchdown regression.
Starting point is 00:31:23 There's a, there's a chance that Brock Bowers has a 10 touchdown season, and you're wishing that you had drafted him in round one. Tyler Warren, going to be this year's Brock Bowers? I think he won't be quite as good as Brock Bowers. It's very rare for a tie-end to be as good as Bowers was last year, but I think he can get close to that. I think that he's absolutely what the Colts wanted as far as a middle-of-the-field weapon. a safety evolve for whichever quarterback that they start, and someone who can make plays after the catch. And we saw it in both preseason games.
Starting point is 00:31:49 There were a number of times where the defenders needed multiple guys to take him down or off the field. He also was catching downfield passes. I think he's outstanding, absolutely targeting him. I'm going to have to take him in late round eight, early round nine now, to get him on all my teams, but I'm going to do it. I think he's going to be really good. And Josh Downs dealing with a hamstring injury,
Starting point is 00:32:07 which could obviously open the door for even more opportunities for Tyler Warren. I'm going to go Tucker Kraft. I just think everything Matt LaFleur said this offseason has a chance to come to fruition. You said they finally have a number one receiver in Matthew Golden. And we don't know the number two is at this point because Jaden Reed, foot injury. Romeo Dobbs doing a little bit of a back injury. It could easily be Tucker Kraft. And you've talked about this a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:25 His efficiency is George Kittle like if he gets more targets and we think they'll throw the ball a little bit closer to 203 than they were 204 when they were third worst in past attempts. So more opportunities for Kraft could be a red zone threat as well. A safe number, a safe top 10 tight end with maybe top five upside. deep in behind the top three guys of Bowers, Trey McBride and George Kittle. No surprise here, again, based on the way that I phrased this, which breakout tight end do you like the best? Brock Bowers, 53%.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I thought this would be like 80 or 90%, to be honest with you. Again, I think people are just pushing back on can he break out again, but as he explained, expects him to be even better in 2025. All right. We'll take a break right now. We come back and get into the bus, the players that you might want to avoid.
Starting point is 00:33:04 That's next on FFT. Welcome back to Fantasy Football today, presented by BetMGM. We're looking at bus players you might want to avoid. And a lot of this has to do with average draft positions. So you're going to hear some names that we're probably still going to draft if they fall to the right spot. But at the cost that they're costing us right now, we're probably going to avoid them. And looking at the quarterbacks, Dave, that's kind of where you're going. So you have just a blanket statement.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Any quarterback drafted in the first two rounds. And right now that means Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. Right, which is weird to say. Lamar Jackson's a bus and Josh Allen's a bus, but it's all because of ADP. Of course I want these guys on my fantasy team. I just don't want to take them over some of the other round two picks that we've seen in fantasy drafts. You've seen guys like Devon A. Chan is starting to fall in a round two because of the uncertainty about his injury. Ashton Genty is kind of in that range. We know other receivers, Bright Thomas Jr., AJ Brown, they're in that range.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And I would rather go after those positions rather than the quarterback spot because I know I can find a quarterback later. on in the draft, that's going to give me good value. Now, if it's round three, I'm all over those guys. We'd love to have them. But round two, too soon. So he says he loves the Tampa Bay offense. You're concerned about Baker Mayfield, though, again, is it more just cost, or is it more Baker's performance? It's mostly cost. He's going in round five. Like, too soon. Way, much really closer to Lamar and Josh Allen than some quarterbacks that I think might score similarly to him, like some of the sleepers that we gave earlier. The other thing is, I was kind of starting to get nervous about this with the way
Starting point is 00:34:40 Emeka Abuka's kind of come into his own this summer, but he's not going to have Chris Goblin probably for the first weeks, four weeks of the season and then who knows what version that is. Jalen McMillan is now banged up. So I don't know that he has the super elite wide receiving core to lift him up out of what would be touchdown regression
Starting point is 00:34:56 for anybody else. You mentioned super elite receiving core. That was kind of the hope for Patrick Mahomes and now we have this Rashi Rice suspension looming and another guy that's getting pushed up to a range where I'm just not so comfortable with it in round four at this point. We all agree on the top five quarterbacks. Whatever order you have them in, it's Lamar, Allen, Daniels, Burrow, Hurts.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And then it's kind of Mahomes kind of just sitting there as the sixth quarterback. But there should be some separation between those top five guys and Mahomes. And maybe even round five is too soon. The earlier side would take him as round six. So I think Mahomes has a chance to be better than the sub-21 points per game that he's given us the last two years. But I hope it's with a full season of Rashi Rice are close to it, which we don't know full expect, but as much as Rice as he can get. and then the potential of worthy
Starting point is 00:35:37 and hopefully a bounceback season for Kelsey. But the bust that you're most worried about a quarterback right now is Mahomes based on our poll. Let's go to the running backs here. We already touched on DeAndre Swift, who's a little bit nervous, a guy who's nervous for Dave. Alvin Kamara, you guys, I think, disagree on this. Do we ever settle on our bet of who's going to be better?
Starting point is 00:35:54 It was half PPR, right? Half PPR. Yeah, I've got Camara, he's got Swift. All right, we'll figure that on our podcast here. So why is Camara a bus for you? Well, I'll say, I got pretty good odds on that bet because these guys are being drafted. nowhere close to each other.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I guess maybe Dave did. But he's currently going in round three as a 30-year-old running back who has missed time each of the last three seasons. And I think Kellan Moore is going to be a good coach. But when you see what he's done going to inherit Austin Eccler, inherit Ezekiel Elliott,
Starting point is 00:36:20 inherit Sequin Barclay. Those three backs saw a 36% decrease in their receptions per game in their first year with Kellyn Moore. He just does not throw the ball to the running backs at the rate that Camara has been used to. So I'm worried about just about Everything with Alvin Camara, including the decreased efficiency we've seen over the second half of this career.
Starting point is 00:36:38 And the quarterbacks are a little concerning right now, too. The offensive line is not great. Yeah, it could be just a bad offensive environment, but obviously if he's going to catch the ball. And the one thing about Camara last year, he played four games with Spencer Rattler, did average this score at least over 17 PPR points in three of them. So hopefully that will save him, but round three might be a little bit too rich. You said, Dandre Swift makes you nervous just because the offense blind concerns there. Absolutely. And Swift himself, 13.7 ppr points per game.
Starting point is 00:37:03 lower each of the last three years. Taking that in round five seems like too much of a reach. Yeah, I've been Brise Hall going in round three right now. Again, you're hearing just a lot of positive reports about Braylon Allen, some negativity about Brise Hall. We saw it in the first two preseason games coming off the field in some key spots. He feels like he could be a trapback. If he's not going to catch the ball to the level that we've seen in the last couple of years, he's been over 50 receptions, he's to the last two seasons. So I'm just nervous about Brise about. I'll take him in round five. He just doesn't fall to that range. And Brise Hall is leading the poll here, which bust running back worries you the most by comparison to Alvin Camara
Starting point is 00:37:33 and DeAndre Swift. So people like Swift in this poll don't love him in the breakout poll. So maybe just with the other guys he was associated with. All right, let's talk about the bus wide receivers here. Dave, you got Zay Flowers as a bust. Heath, he got Marvin Harrison Jr. For me, Terry McCorn, I'll just get McCorn
Starting point is 00:37:45 out of the way. I'm nervous about the hold-in. Even if he does sign at this point, he's not going to crack the top 24 for me. So I'm going to keep McCorn outside the top 24. He's still being drafted in round four. So I will most likely not be drafting Terry McCorn.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Why is Zay Flowers a bust? The track record of Ravens wide receivers under Lamar Jackson isn't very good. And I love the talent of Zay Flowers. I don't think he gets enough targets and I don't think he gets enough touchdowns to weren't being drafted even in the first seven rounds in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I'd be fine with Marvin Harrison if he was being drafted in the same place that Zay Flowers is. But he's being pushed up ahead of both of these guys now in drafts. And I just haven't seen or heard anything out of Arizona that suggests their game plan has changed.
Starting point is 00:38:24 You hear about their joint practices and it's still Marvin Harrison running the defense down the field and Trey McBride catching 15 passes. And that seems to be what the offense still is. He will be a good best ball wide receiver. Has some spike weeks, but he's not going to meet his 80p.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah, to score eight touchdowns last year. If he pushes that number to 10, that will clearly help. Can he get more opportunities, more targets? Can he catch the ball a little bit more and makes more plays? We know about him bulking up physically, and maybe that helps with some yards. He needs his quarterback to be on target. He needs a quarterback to be on targets. It's a great point.
Starting point is 00:38:52 All right, this is the closest poll I think we've had so far today. So you have Zay Flowers, McClorin, and Marvin Harrison, and Harrison just eking out McClorin in terms of the wide receiver. that worries you the most. Let's see if maybe the tight end pole can beat that. We have Sam Leporta as a bust for you, Heath. We have T.J. Hawkinson's a bus for you and Mark Andrews is a bus for me. So this is the range of tight ends, which kind of sways how a lot of these players value,
Starting point is 00:39:16 players men are at the position because we know the top three guys, typically the great guys perform at a very high level barring injury. The bottom tight ends, the Zach Ertz's, the Colston Lovelins, those type of guys, they have a chance to break out. It's these guys that are drafted in the rounds four through six range, which is where these guys are going, tend to sway the position. So Leporta banged up right now. You're worried.
Starting point is 00:39:33 You're worried about Detroit in general. You've kind of made that clear. I'm a little cooler. I think I'm pretty close to where James and Williams is being drafted. But I just think the emergence of James and Williams. And when you compare, I would take T.J. Hawkinson over Leporter right now. When you compare those two guys, Hawkinson's so much better in terms of earning targets and receptions and yards. And Leport has been better at scoring touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I'm worried about the Lions touchdowns coming down a little bit. And with Addison out three games, Hawkinsons might go up a little bit. So that's kind of where I'm on those guys. I would take Leporto over Hawkinson. but I don't want to take either of them at their current ADPs. Leportes at the 5-6-turned Hockinson is just before round seven starts. I think Hockinson's going to be third, maybe fourth on the team in targets. I'm not sure how big of a red zone threat he's going to be at tight end.
Starting point is 00:40:14 This to me sounds like somebody who should be drafted in like round eight or round nine, not in round six, seven. Well, you're interesting to see how Hockinson does those first three games without Addison there and then does that sort of buoy him to the rest of the season. In 2023, he was in the conversation to be the number one tight end. But that was with a more established quarterback, and we'll see how Jefferson's hamstring injury sort of factors in that as well andrews last year was great at finding the end zone led the position in terms of touchdowns but the two previous years he combined for 11 touchdowns scored 11 touchdowns last year we don't know when isa likely will return so of likely he's out a significant amount of time it might justify Andrews going in round seven but at this point that's a little bit too expensive for me I'm a little concerned again with the addition of D'Andre Hopkins will the touchdowns be there and I'm surprised that he's winning this poll but mark andrews is the tight end that worries you the most how about Hawkinson being the one that worries them the least well Well, I think people, and that's probably what driving is driving up is ADP. Addison out three games is going to, I think, help Hawkinson situation.
Starting point is 00:41:07 And Leporta is, you know, banged up right now, too. I think the knock against Hawkinson might be that he doesn't have the upside. Like, he's still, everybody expects him to get seven targets a game. He's about as solid as it. He's like the younger Zach Ertz in a little bit better situation. I don't think he's getting seven targets per game once Addison's back. We'll see. Kevin O'Connell loves him.
Starting point is 00:41:26 So we'll see how much Hawkinson does matter and can maybe another bet happens between Loporta. and i'd be in for the season all right well we'll get to those on our fantasy football today podcast all we'll take a break when we come back it's all your questions the rest of the way ask fFT next here on fantasy football today we got our ask ffti and the first one is starting wrapping things up here on fantasy football today presented by bedmgm we got our ask fFT and the first one is starting up a new league what are some unwritten rules, Heath, that need to be made clear? The first one is don't have any unwritten rules, right?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Not on the rules. Everybody knows what the rules are, so you don't have arguments in the middle of the season. The second one I would say is, the only way a trade is getting reversed is if it's collusion, and if you have collusion, those people should be kicked out of your league. All right, so there's some good ones to follow. Dave, if Bowers and McBride were drafted as wide receivers, where would they rank among wide receivers? It's going to be format dependent.
Starting point is 00:42:26 If it's full PPR, it's right about where I would take them maybe a little bit later, So let's call it round three just for those two. But in non-PPR, it's only Bowers that I would take in round three. McBride would probably fall a full round later. So you're essentially saying they would be like wide receiver 11, 12 in that range. In that range of full PPR, yes. I would agree. Maybe a little bit past that.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Which quarterback would you keep in a one QB dynasty league, Keith, J.J. McCarthy, Trevor Lawrence, Dack Prescott, to a tongue-a-low. Ooh, that is a tough one. I have, all those guys, very close. I would probably keep Dak Prescott. Okay. I would probably go Lawrence just for the longevity potential, but Prescott. for the one-year situation.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I have the third pick in a 10-team redraft league. Dave, who do I select? Bejohn Robinson or Jemir Giff? Easy one for me. Bejohn Robinson is my number one running back. I would agree. Next question.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Keeper question. 12-team PPR, one flex. Keep Justin Jefferson at 6. Devon A. H.N. at 19. Jalen Wallet 30 or DeAndre Swift at 54. Heath, test in your love for a lot of these guys. It's all my favorite guys. I'm going to go with A.C.N. right now.
Starting point is 00:43:25 If we had a week from now and he's still hurt, then maybe you can try to change your mind. Yeah, not a lot of value with Jefferson at 6, but A. Chan and 19 could be great. That's a good. All right. Last question for today. We've got a 10-team two-quarterback league, Dave, first pick, and back and back-and-forth on Lamar versus Chase.
Starting point is 00:43:39 So you're taking a quarterback, you're taking the wide receiver. Yeah, I'm taking the quarterback. I know it's a 10-team league, but to get one of the stud quarterbacks, even in a two-quarterback league, it's absolutely worth it. Yeah, I would take... I mean, I would take Alan over Lamar. I would take Lamar Jackson. You would take Jay and Daniels, right?
Starting point is 00:43:54 Yeah. Yep. So we're all different, but we all agree. Take the quarterback over Jamar Chase. All right. That'll do it for us here on Fantasy Football. I'll say we're back here on CBS Sports Network on Friday. You can always check us out on our Fantasy Football Today podcast
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