Fantasy Football Today - FFT on CBSSN: Training Camp Injury Updates, ADP Talk, Draft Day Scenarios, & More! (07/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Welcome everybody. What's going on? This is fantasy football today here on CBS Sports Network and we have a lot to cover. There are quarterback competitions. There are injuries to star players. There are holdouts. There are hold ins. I'm drafting better teams than Jamie in the same draft. This is unbelievable. These developments, we're going to cover it all for you, help you sort it out and get you ready for your fantasy drafts right now on FFT. Welcome. I am Adam Azer. Oh, I didn't even see you there, Jamie. What's going on? You may have heard some rumors about me talking smack about you. Just ignore them. How's it going? You know, I give you your credit. You had a very good draft. It's good to finish second place though. And Dave Richard is here. What's up, Dave? I hate finishing in second place. It's heartache that you carry for like eight months out of the
Starting point is 00:00:56 year. Nobody wants that. Finishing in first is what matters. I don't think you did that though, Adam. Well, let me ask you a question because I was talking about my fantasy league yesterday with my buddies that it was decided on Jamir Gibbs' touchdown run in week 17 and it came down to decimal points. He needed almost every yard of it. Would you rather lose, come in second place in that fashion or just not make the playoffs and not have to deal with that heartbreak. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Yeah. I don't want that heartbreak. Put me in eighth place. I'd rather get paid. I'll take second place. Yeah. He got paid. You know, he got paid second place.
Starting point is 00:01:34 That's a good point. I didn't think about that. I was just thinking about the mental anguish that he had to go through. Yeah. No, he's, he's still not over it. I'll pay for your therapy. Don't worry. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Listen, we've got four big topics to get to. And unfortunately, we got to talk about injuries here, even though it's July 28th. Which injury is having the biggest impact on your rankings? Justin Jefferson could be out a few weeks. Joe Mixon, we don't even know if he's going to be ready for week one. He's got a foot issue. Joanne Jennings left with an injury over the weekend. Matthew Stafford is going to miss at least this week with a foot issue. Joanne Jennings left with an injury over the weekend. Matthew Stafford is going to miss at least this week with a back issue.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Jamie, of these four, which one is impacting your rankings the most right now? It's Joe Mixon. I was already a little bit concerned about him coming into the season before this news. He was already dealing with this injury in the off season when he was seen in a walking boot and didn't take part in really any of the offseason activities. They bring in two running backs for competition, whether that was more of an indication on Damian Pierce and Dario Gumbuale, or they wanted to take some of the work off of
Starting point is 00:02:33 Mixon, who was number seven in the NFL last year, touches per game at 20.1. He missed three games last year due to injury. He's 29 years old. He's going to play behind a worse offensive line than he had last year, at least by all the people who rank offensive lines. And so Mixon was already trending in the wrong direction for me. This makes me basically out on Joe Mixon, unless I'm getting him probably in round seven or later. He may fall to that spot depending on how long this lingers, but that'll
Starting point is 00:02:56 probably drop my feeling about when I want to take him as well. So I'm most likely not going to draft a lot of Joe Mixon this year. Dave, same question to you. These injuries, which one is having the biggest impact on your rankings? And if it is mixing, maybe you want to say who's in second place in this list. I mean, it's definitely mixing because the reports say that he might miss most, if not all of training camp and the preseason, he's had quad foot and multiple ankle injuries in the past calendar year. It's a problem. Stafford would be next up, but it's not being reflected in my rankings yet because I expect Matthew Stafford to be ready to go at some point during the preseason. This is a veteran who knows what he's doing. Same
Starting point is 00:03:35 thing with Justin Jefferson. As long as they're in camp and practicing by let's call it August 21st, they're going to be fine. And if you can get them at a draft day discount, you should get them, especially in the case of Jefferson. I doubt you will, but maybe you get Jefferson at like seventh or eighth overall, instead of as a top five pick, I'd say you're winning in that case. Back in 2022, Matthew Stafford had an elbow injury
Starting point is 00:04:03 in the pre-season. Now he only ended up playing nine games that year, but it was completely unrelated to the elbow. I think it was a spinal cord contusion for those nine games, though. Cooper Cup also played nine games that year. Cooper Cup was the number one wide receiver per game. Now the Rams offense really struggled though, but Cooper Cup did not.
Starting point is 00:04:21 He was number one per game. So a preseason injury in 2022 did not really affect the top pass catcher for the Rams. I mean that might be relevant now though, Adam, because you're talking about a spinal injury for a guy that's 37 dealing with a back injury right now. So you know, hopefully he's going to be fine, but at his age, the way that they paid, remember they structured it to do a year by year deal with him at this point until he decides to retire. It's just a little concerning and it should be a little concerning for
Starting point is 00:04:46 Puka, Nakua and Devante Adams because we don't know how those two guys are gonna cannibalize each other a little bit and while it's easy to say okay Puka will be fine and just continue to do what he's done and Adams just kind of slide into the Cooper Cup roll. I hope that's exactly what happens and we get that type of production but what if Adams is better than Nakua? What if Nakua takes a step back for a guy you're taking in round one? What if Adams at 32 years old doesn't take the step, you know, or continue on the same level of production that he had last year with the jets? Like this could be troubling
Starting point is 00:05:09 if it's Jimmy Garoppolo. Garoppolo was not good for Devante Adams in with the Raiders in 2023. And it could be bad for Puka as well. Okay, let's move on to our second big topic. And it's the Cowboys backfield. Javante Williams is currently not a top 100 pick in fantasy pros.PR ADP, he's about 107th. Got a report over the weekend, not a report, but a quote from the head coach talking about maybe splitting with Miles Sanders. Dave, what do you make of the Cowboys backfield?
Starting point is 00:05:37 I mean, I don't want to make anything of it, but given the ADP and the fact that we're talking about a pick in like round eight, round nine for a potential starting running back. How am I going to fault anybody for taking a shot on Javante Williams, even though he's been terrible the last two seasons, it was on a different team.
Starting point is 00:05:55 He himself hasn't been explosive. Seven games with 15 or more PPR points over the last two years for Javante, but his competition for playing time is really laughable to be honest. And we know that he's going to be good to go in passing down situations. So again, if we're talking about round nine, round ten for a potential starting running back, you're not going to use him in your fantasy lineup as a starter, but he could end up being a decent bi-week replacement, then who knows? Maybe Dallas' offense gets him going a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:22 He says he's in better shape now than he was two years ago. Maybe he shows us something this year and certainly the catches will count. If it's in PPR leagues, he'll get a bunch of those two. Jamie for Gervonta, it was a torn ACL, a torn LCL and postural lateral corner. I struggle sometimes with some of these ligaments and And I don't know if that is the yeah, why doesn't it just say PCL then it's the something corner anyway Yeah, is it possible that he we just haven't seen a healthy version of Gervonta as Dave was alluding to in two years And he could be a steal
Starting point is 00:07:01 He absolutely could and you should stick to juggling more so than reading medical terminology. I was juggling. For me, when I see those four names, I'd rather just go Dak Prescott, CD Lamb, George Pickens and Jake Ferguson and void the backfield for the Cowboys and just really focus on the passing game. I think that's gonna be the dominant part of this offense.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Clearly we could get a potential flex play out of the backfield, but I think the passing game is gonna be absolutely fantastic. I want pieces of all four of those guys at varying costs. Ferguson, a late round tight end dart throw if you miss on the position. Pickens has number two wide receiver upside.
Starting point is 00:07:32 You could draft as number three receiver. CD Lamb could easily be the number one receiver this year. He tied points per game for Jamar Chase in 2023 when he had a healthy Dak Prescott. Maybe the best quote so far of anybody in training camp when he said, let me remind you of what I can be when Dak Prescott is healthy. And obviously Prescott has been a very good fantasy quarterback, one of the more underrated guys.
Starting point is 00:07:51 So I'm just going to skip the running backs as much as I can and focus on as many pieces of that passing game as I could possibly get. Next big storyline, let's talk about Travis Hunter. So rookie wide receiver here, rookie cornerback as well. And he's basically been splitting evenly among the two positions in Jaguars camp so far and his playing time we just don't know what it's going to be Jamie in terms of how many snaps he gets at wide receiver but it could be a very important question uh very important answer to get in terms of fantasy production fantasy value so what you've
Starting point is 00:08:22 seen so far from Hunter in Jaguar's camp, where's that making you want to take Hunter who is currently 61st overall wide receiver 27 in fantasy pros ADP? That's basically what I haven't ranked. I was a little bit too high on him probably before the starter training camp. I had him at wide receiver 24 taking him in early round five. Now it's the backend around five, basically where he's going. There's so much upside here. Look, you see what this receiving core is. They're talking up Parker Washington.
Starting point is 00:08:46 D'Ammy Brown is a guy that they signed who really didn't do much when he was in Washington. We all remember the big Hail Mary play, but otherwise it's been a very nonexistent stretch of career for him. So these guys are going to have opportunities to make plays. Really, it makes me want to get Brian Thomas in the late round one, early round two, because I think he's going to get fed targets again like we saw last season. But in terms of Hunter, I think he's a good number three fantasy receiver to start your team. If you play in a two receiver league and you don't have to play him at either a wide receiver
Starting point is 00:09:12 spot or a flex and just see how this plays out, that's the best case scenario. But I think as a number three receiver, he's going to spend most of his time, at least the way I expect it right now, on offense and hopefully be enough of a playmaker. Liam Cohen's system, as we saw in Tampa Bay, will funnel targets to two guys and the top two guys on the field. It was the case with Chris Goblin and Mike Evans to start last season.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Then when we had the injuries at the end of the year, it was Evans and Jalen McMillan. There's a huge opportunity here for Travis Hunter. So hopefully he spends more of his time on the offensive side of the ball. But I think if you're drafting him as a starter in two receiver leagues, you're making a mistake. A high end number three receiver is
Starting point is 00:09:43 where I'd want to get Travis Hunter, at least right now. Okay. I'm going to ask both of you to rank three wide receivers, Jamie, then Dave, Travis Hunter, Zay Flowers, Jamis, and Williams. Williams, Hunter, Flowers. I have the exact same order. Well, how about that, Dave?
Starting point is 00:10:04 Look at us. All right, Dave, which quarterback competition is catching your eye right now? That's our fourth big topic. We've got Kenny Pickett getting injured in Cleveland. We've got just a total rotation in New Orleans. Two quarterbacks that are not exactly getting rave reviews in Indianapolis. Which one's catching your eye? I mean, for fantasy purposes, none of the above.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You've got like 25 other quarterbacks across the National Football League that you're going to consider before you even look at a quarterback in New Orleans, Cleveland, or Indianapolis. Honestly, when I look at these quarterback competitions, I'm thinking about who are the wide receivers who can benefit. And I wonder if the answer to that is also none of the above. And that could be bad news for Jerry Judy,
Starting point is 00:10:48 who I'm taking in that same range as Travis Hunter. And maybe that's going to end up being a mistake, because the Browns have so many issues at quarterback. And then New Orleans, I have loved Chris Olave for years. I think he's a great talent. We know last year he dealt with a bunch of injuries. Now we know he's going to have a quarterback downgrade, even though he should be in a bunch of games where he sees seven plus targets per game. And then I just think in Indianapolis,
Starting point is 00:11:12 it's a wasteland for wide receivers. I like the tight end in Indianapolis. Tyler Warren, I like David Njokwu in Cleveland. There isn't a tight end that I really love in New Orleans. But when I think about those quarterback competitions, I think about the wide receivers there, and then I think about not really wanting a piece of them on my fantasy teams. So you could see guys like Judeo and Olave start to slide even further down my rankings as these quarterback competitions go on.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Yeah, I go the complete other way. I'm very intrigued by all three of these, mostly because of the wide receivers. I think there's so much upside for a lot of these teams and a lot of these players, if the right quarterback is in place. Now, obviously for Indianapolis, it's more about the quarterback, I think, than the receiving core. But you're hopeful that you'll get some quality production for guys like Tyler
Starting point is 00:11:55 Warren and Josh Downs and Michael Pittman. This could be a disappointing situation because those guys have so much upside, as we've seen at times throughout their careers, and for Warren coming into the NFL. But if Richardson does win that job and can play like the guy we've seen in spurts, he could be the best running quarterback, which we know is great for fantasy. So it could be one of the best sleepers that you'll see at any position if he does stay healthy and play like the player that we've seen when he's been at his best. Unfortunately, there's been too much of him playing at his worst.
Starting point is 00:12:21 In the situation in Cleveland, I just hope it's Joe Flacco. You could tell me it's Shider Sanders, but he's been running with the fourth team, which I think is a big indication of what they think of him. I hope it's not Dylan Gabriel with Pickett's injury right now. I hope that just clears the way for Flacco to be the guy and they've kind of been managing his snaps because they know he's gonna be the guy and that would make Jerry Judy a potential top 15 wide receiver. You're not drafting him that way. And the same thing with David Ndjoko, a top five tight end. We saw that in 2023. We saw that with Judy last year
Starting point is 00:12:44 when he had Jameis Winston throwing him the ball. The New Orleans situation, I think, is gonna be a disaster across the board, no matter who the starter is. So I think if you're just buying a Lave at the right price, buying Alvin Kamara at the right price, and taking maybe a flyer on Rashid Shaheed with the hope that maybe he gets a few big plays throughout the course of the season. That's really the way I would approach it. But I'm very curious about all these guys because all these situations, because I think
Starting point is 00:13:05 we could find some really good fantasy options if the right quarterback is throwing to those receivers. Okay. Up next, we've got a segment that I was inspired by every mic check I do with Dave and Jamie. They say, you don't belong here. And that's the name of our upcoming segment. We'll show you how it works after this on Fantasy Football Today. ["Fantasy Football Today"] Why just survive back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that does it all for you,
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Starting point is 00:14:09 rounds based on fantasy pros PPR ADP. I'm going to tell you why that player doesn't belong in that round. But Dave, I'm going to let you criticize me even before the segment starts, because I don't even necessarily believe in all these. I think ADP right now looks pretty good. So just bear with me, Dave. I'm gonna have to make some cases that are kind of a stretch, if you don't mind. You mean you're playing devil's advocate? Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. I'd rather play hungry, hungry. But I do, I believe in the theory behind this. Okay. So I'm going to look at around one guy. You don't belong in round one Malik neighbors, not because you are not incredibly talented, but because if I look at the top eight wide receivers Malik neighbors to me has by far
Starting point is 00:14:54 the worst situation. We're not talking about the Bengals or the Vikings or the Cowboys or the Rams or even the Jaguars or the Texans or the Lions. We're talking about the New York Giants who are one of the laughingstocks of football. I actually look at their team, their personnel, and say, they could have a decent offense. They could. They've got a stud left tackle. They've got an experienced quarterback. They've got Malik neighbors. They could be okay, but they also have the toughest schedule in football on paper. I think they're going to lose a lot of games,
Starting point is 00:15:22 and I think they're going to turn to Jackson Dart. So I love Malik neighbors, but I also love all of the top eight wide receivers. Dave, I think he's got the worst situation of them. Nico Collins is a second round pick. Devon H. Han is a second round pick. Brian Thomas Jr. is a second round pick. I think they should all go ahead of Malik neighbors and he should be more like a top 15 pick instead of a top 10 pick, which he currently is. So full disclosure for the audience, Adam a die-hard New York Giants fan And he's putting the kibosh on his own favorite team look He wasn't a great. He wasn't in a great situation last year's quarterback stunk his offensive line got knocked down
Starting point is 00:15:57 He missed a couple of games with a concussion still average a ton of PPR points per game 18.2 But more importantly he averaged eleven ton of PPR points per game, 18.2, but more importantly, he averaged 11.3 targets per game. He was even good in the five games. He had nine or fewer targets and he averaged 17.1 PPR points. Now I'd say he's getting an upgrade at quarterback. It's not a huge upgrade. It's Russell Wilson. It's Jackson Dart. And I was a fan of Jackson Dart coming out of college. I think he'll actually be quite good for the Giants. And I think that we'll see Malik neighbors continue to play in a huge role for them.
Starting point is 00:16:31 He is their offense, especially when they're trailing in the second half of games. That's when that target volume will really get going. And that's when fantasy managers will start earning some points. As worried as you are about him maybe not being in the best offense or being the most consistent wide receiver, he still has the case to be the wide receiver one in fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:16:51 He is that good of a talent, and he is going to get that kind of an opportunity from game to game. Jamie? I mean, Daniel Jones, Tommy DeVito, Tim Boyle, Drew Locke, those guys were terrible. And Malik Neymar still survived through it all. Yes, Jackson Dart, maybe, maybe a downgrade from those guys. I doubt it.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I would take Jackson Dart over all those guys right now without throwing a pass in the NFL. And Russell Wilson, hopefully, will start the majority of the season. Malik Neymar is going to lead the NFL in targets and he's gonna be just fine. He's a first round talent by far. I forgot to mention, he also has a toe injury that might need surgery.
Starting point is 00:17:27 So that makes me a little bit squeamish to actually listen. Injury is clearly something to be concerned about if he's hurt. But if we're going to make that argument, we have to make it for Justin Jefferson. We have to make it for Pucca Nakua. We have to make it for anybody that's got either an injury to themself or an injury to the quarterback that's vulnerable. Well, not if they were saying, well, Justin Jefferson is going to play through this hamstring injury, but he might need surgery after the season. That's a little bit different than
Starting point is 00:17:51 Justin Jefferson is going to take three weeks off and be 100% when he comes back. League neighbors is not going to be 100%. And when the sink, when the ship is sinking, I definitely see a possibility of them shutting him down. Look, it's obviously I'm nitpicking because he's great, but he has to me the worst situation of the top eight receivers. But I next commercial take off your, your giants, uh, pajama pants and we'll talk about something else. It's a onesie.
Starting point is 00:18:14 All right, let's go to the second round. You don't belong here. Lad McConkey. And here's the thing. I was actually going to do Lamar Jackson, but I knew I'd make the case and you guys would be like, yep, you're right. So I chose that. I love Laban Kahnke. He's so good.
Starting point is 00:18:32 But there aren't a lot of wide receivers that finished top 12 in full PPR. He's wide receiver 11, by the way, in ADP, Laban Kahnke. Finished top 12 on offenses that are bottom five and pass attempts. It's pretty rare. And if they finished top 12, they're usually pretty close to 12. So I cannot guarantee you that the chargers are going to be bottom five and pass attempts. But I do think it's pretty reasonable to see that right after signing Najee and drafting Hampton and having a pretty good offensive line
Starting point is 00:19:03 and look who their coaches are. So Jamie, to me, that's the only concern for McConkie is target volume. Even at his best, he wasn't getting a ton of targets last year. So I think that could make him more like a round three pick. And to be fair, he is going at the two, three turn. Yeah, I mean, it's probably nitpicking
Starting point is 00:19:21 in terms of where his ADP is versus where, you know, most people would draft him. I think anywhere from between 20 and 28 is where you'll see him come off the board, depending on the format. I think the best thing about this is you look at the way that they drafted and added to this team, and now Mike Williams is retired. You're talking about two guys that are going to play on the outside in terms of Quinton Johnson and Trey Harris, the rookie that they added.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I think McConkie's going to get Fed targets. And I always like to look, depending on the system, well, what does the quarterback sort of tell us in terms of tendencies? Well, his favorite receiver to start his career was Keenan Allen, who played the majority of the time in the slot. Vlad McConkie's going to see time in the slot, a short area guy that can make some big plays
Starting point is 00:19:54 and be explosive. And so we'll see if Arunde Gadsden has a big opportunity here as a tight end and a tight end friendly offense. Or Tyler Cochlin, somebody who got added as a free agent, I think is a little underrated in terms of this team. We know they're going gonna run the ball. They told us that by bringing in Amari Hampton and Najee Harris and doing what they started to do last year,
Starting point is 00:20:10 which was feed JK Dobbins until Herbert got healthy. I think that was a big part of when McConkey took off is when Herbert's foot injury finally healed. So he's gonna lead the team in targets. It just depends, I think, on where you're viewing him and how high you think he can get to. I don't think he has the ceiling of Malik neighbors or Brian Thomas, the two rookies that he's, you know, being compared to
Starting point is 00:20:27 coming off of the, the stellar 2024 standout rookie campaign for all three of those guys. He's basically sort of the bridge receiver for me. I did move Tyree Kill ahead of him. I have T Higgins ahead of him. You know, he's not a top 10 receiver. He's actually 13th for me. Uh, but I think if you get him at the end of round two, beginning
Starting point is 00:20:42 around three, depending on how you want to build your team, he's one of the safer picks that still has top 10 upside, just not top five upside. Here's my favorite Lad McConkey stat guys. There were eight games last year where the Chargers had 20 or more running back runs. And remember they had J.K. Dobbins and a lot of filth at running back last year. And obviously it's upgraded this year. McConkey averaged six and a half targets per game. Oh, that's gross. No one wants that.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Well, he averaged seven for the season and in those eight games, he still averaged 16 PPR points per game and he scored six of his eight touchdowns. He's going to be just fine. He just... Jamie said it best. He's not going to have that huge upside. He's exactly the type of safe receiver that you're looking for in the two three turn. I think he's decidedly right within those last three picks of round number
Starting point is 00:21:31 two. And I think he's a really good player who could see a target uptick, especially if something happens that run game, because we saw last year, his targets did go up to eight point two per game in nine games when the charges around the ball 19 or fewer times with their running backs. All right, guys. So I got two more here. I'm going to go to round three and Dave, I'm going to throw this one to you and then Jamie, I'll give you the round four
Starting point is 00:21:53 guy round three Tyreek Hill. You don't belong here. You belong in round two and honestly no one's drafting round one, but it wouldn't surprise me if you should have been drafted around one. Dave, you don't go from two straight 1700 yard seasons to being not even a top 35 wide receiver per game at age 30, by the way. He was 30 last year, which really isn't that old for an elite wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Now he's 31, unless there's a reason for it. It was so obvious. It was the preseason wrist injury that got worse when he got arrested and they changed their offensive philosophy because he wasn't the same. He is the best player on this team. They will give him the ball will do his thing. He's going to be a steel Tyree kill if he lasts around three, Dave. I would agree a hundred percent. I love that he's now at his playing weight that he was in in Kansas City. He's lost a few pounds.
Starting point is 00:22:47 He's got a new mentality to his game too. He's trying to be more of a leader in the locker room. And that just tells me that he's taking football more seriously than he might have in years past. And years past, plural, obviously last year, nightmare. He had the wrist injury. I think there are other things going on with the Dolphins offense that made their offense look really terrible. And two years ago, one year ago, or one year before then, I should say, yeah, Tua was on fire for the Dolphins. I would expect him to be somewhere in between his 2023 and 2024 seasons, which
Starting point is 00:23:19 makes his selection, again, late round two, I agree that Tyreek should go ahead of Vlad McConkey, a really good value pick. This one you're right on, Adam. He should be a round two, I agree that Tyreek should go ahead of Vlad McConkey, a really good value pick. This one you're right on, Adam. He should be a round two pick and not everybody in every league is going to believe in it because he's coming off of a down year. Bounce back season coming for Tyreek. Don't sound so surprised if I'm right on one, okay?
Starting point is 00:23:39 Jamie, last one's going to you. Round four, Alvin Kamara. You don't belong here, Alvin Kamara. You belong in round five because the Saints are a disaster. And I'm just going to leave it at that, Jamie. I think that this offense is going to be so bad that it will pull him down. And he's still going about 41st overall. I mean, there's just too many good players on the board at that point. Obviously, he needs to catch a lot of passes and he will, but I cannot take a top 40 or 42 ish pick on a guy on what might be the worst offense in football by far. He's one of the more polarizing players and
Starting point is 00:24:16 you know, it's, it's the offense, it's his age, you know, we saw him miss the final three games of the season last year with a groin injury. I think there will be more competition for touches this year because there's no more Dennis Allen So maybe Kendrick Miller gets an opportunity they drafted Devin Neal somebody I think that they like so we'll see if that hurts Camaro as well The thing that I keep going back to though is he did play four games with Spencer Rattler as the quarterback and he scored 17 plus PPR points in three of those and so format matters for him more than maybe any player in fantasy because in full PPR he's going to benefit immensely. In half and non he's gonna struggle a little bit because exactly what you said, his offense could be bad so the touchdowns which we know has been a problem for him whether
Starting point is 00:24:53 Taysom Hill has been there or not that I think could be an issue once again. So in PPR I think round four is the earliest you should look for him. For me it would be toward the end of round four so yes if you get him around five I love that. And so he's in that group of running backs with Brissol, he's got questions about his offense, quarterback problems potentially, and what the usage could be. Chuba Hubbard, who may have some competition for touches
Starting point is 00:25:13 this year more so than we saw last year. Well Marion Hampton's in that group now because of the Najee Harris injury. So there's questions with all these guys, but in PPR it's hard to overlook what Camara's been. And I think if you just lower the expectations a little bit for a guy that averaged 19 PPR points per game, I would think it's hard to overlook what Camaro has been and I think if you just lower the expectations a little bit for a guy That averaged 19 PPR points per game
Starting point is 00:25:26 I would think it's gonna be somewhere in the 16 17 point per game range Which puts them in the round for round five category just depends on if you're comparing him to receivers the quarterbacks That'll be on the board at that point. Maybe a tight end or two So I think if you're just looking at him as a good number two running back not somebody I think that will be a number one guy again because of everything that's happening to him But I do think he'll be a number one guy again, because of everything that's happening to him. But I do think he'll be a little bit safer in PPR than people realize. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:49 That is it for you don't belong here. You know what? Everyone belongs. So we are going to get put Dave and Jamie on the clock in our next segment. We're going to give them some draft day scenarios and see what they're going to do. And we'll be right back after this on fantasy football today. Welcome back to fantasy football today. I'm Adam Azer. They are Dave Richard and Jamie Eisenberg and Dave and Jamie. You are on the clock. Here we go. We're gonna give you some draft scenarios starting with round one, pick four. All right, you're on the clock with 104.
Starting point is 00:26:30 These three players are still on the board. Jamie, we'll start with you. Who are you taking? CD Lam, Justin Jefferson, or Jameer Gibbs? Pretty easy for me, it's CD Lam. I think with a healthy Dak Prescott, he's gonna dominate again like we saw in 2023, maybe not to the same heights, but number one receiver by far already talking about being that guy once again. I'm not worried about George Pickens taking away too much from CD Lam. He could easily be the number one player in fantasy this year. So give me him as my third overall player. So I'll be glad to get him in number four.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I'll take the running back. I think Jameer Gibbs is the way to go here. He averaged more PPR points per game than both Lamb and Jefferson in the 14 games that he was with David Montgomery last year. Of course, we all know about those other games that he played without Montgomery. He was the best player in fantasy. He outscored pretty much every quarterback on top of everybody else. So I really think that there is huge upside for Jameer Gibbs to break his record. It's not really a record Adam. He's had 52 catches each of his first two seasons.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I think he does better there. I think he scores a ton of touchdowns. I think he's a candidate for 2000 total yards and just an absolute beast at running back for Detroit. I'll take Gibbs ever so slightly over Jefferson and Lamb. Well, you guys rigged the draft order because not only did you have 104, you also have 107.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Congratulations. You're on the clock and these four players are still on the board. Dave, who are you taking? Saquon Barkley, Christian McCaffrey, Devon Achan, or let's get a wide receiver, Pukka Nakua. It's an interesting group and I would imagine that the general public will take Saquon Barkley. I will not be in that general public group. I'm a little worried about Saquon, believe it or not.
Starting point is 00:28:07 After the year he just had, I'm going to roll the dice with Devon Aitchan, who I view as a younger version of Christian McCaffrey. 22.6 PPR points per game in 11 games with Tua Tungavailoa last year. I do worry about Tua surviving for the whole season and those other games that Tua doesn't play. What does that mean for Devon a Chan? I'm not really thinking about that as much though, because I think the
Starting point is 00:28:31 Dolphins did upgrade at backup quarterback this off season. And I think a Chan is still an ascending talent who's going to catch a lot of passes and be very involved in this Dolphins offense. So I will take him over Christian McCaffrey, who would be my second pick of the four. Yeah. Give me McCaffrey easily in this one. Uh, last time we saw him play a full season, 23 PPR points per game in 2023. And you're looking at this receiving core right now for the 49ers. You have Joanne Jennings hurt or dealing with a contract situation.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Who knows when Brandon and I equal play Ricky Pierce. I was already at a hamstring injury. Just got back from the populace. We'll see if he's able to stay healthy for the majority of the season I think this often is gonna run through McCaffrey and run through McCaffrey a lot in the passing game on the ground He is basically a touchdown per game based on how I think we're gonna see this offense operate Love the situation from McCaffrey. Give me him at sixth overall if he's there I would take him as high as five overall as well. So to get him at number seven would be would be stealing Okay, let's go to the second round. Now you guys are back on the clock.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Thankfully, you're not really sharing a team doesn't seem to be a lot of agreement here. But we'll see if you can agree on pick 203. You've already got your wide receiver one. Okay, that's the scenario. You've got your wide receiver one. And these four players are on the board. Who are you taking? Derek Henry, AJ Brown, Brock Bowers, or Brian Thomas Jr. Jamie, you've got a wide receiver. What's your next pick? Yeah, I'm going receiver, receiver. Give me Brian Thomas Jr.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Love the setup for him, especially if Travis Hunter is gonna see potentially as much time on defense as it's leaning that way right now. So love the setup for him and Liam Cohen's offense was dominant to close the season last year. Did not have Trevor Lawrence or Liam Cohen on his side when that was the case. I think it's going to be another big season
Starting point is 00:30:07 for Brian Thomas. So I'm going to go receiver, receiver and dominate this draft. I'm going to go for the balanced approach and take Derek Henry. 19.8 PPR points per game last year. He averaged 21.4 PPR points per game in 14 games where he had at least 14 touches.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I think he's going to have a lot of games with 14 plus touches this year for Baltimore as well. Their defense is better. It's setting up for him to have a smash season. The only argument against Derek Henry that I found is that he's old. And I guess that's kind of a factor, but he's been an older running back for a long time. People have said that he's due for a breakdown.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I'm not betting against Derek Henry. I think he's gonna be the best of these four. It's who I would take, especially if I took a wide receiver already in round one. Now, if Heath were on the show, he may have taken Brock Bowers there for Dave and Jamie. It's just a little bit too early for Brock Bowers. So 2-11, maybe a tight end comes into play here.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You've got picked 2-11, so you're picking again in just a few more picks at 3. So, uh, two 11, maybe a tight end comes into play here. You've got picked two 11. So you're picking again and just a few more picks at 3.2, but you've already drafted Bijon Robinson and now you need to make your second round pick. You've got Bijon or Bijon, pardon me. These four players are still on the board. Are you taking Trey McBride, T Higgins, Lad McConkey or Bucky Irving. And I get to pick two of these guys, right Adam? You do, but who's your first one? But the first one's Bucky Irving, who I think can take a big step forward this year in Tampa.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I love the way that he put up numbers last year, and he only played north of 60% of the snaps in three games. So there's meat on the bone still for Bucky Irving to put up huge numbers. And then I've got to take a pass catcher. And obviously you're only giving me three pass catchers. Give me T Higgins who really stepped up last year, didn't play the full season for Cincinnati,
Starting point is 00:31:54 but when he did play, just absolutely awesome. The Bengals defense is still a mess. The offense is going to put up a ton of points. Joe Burrow is going to throw a lot of passes. They're going to be top five in pass rate. And I think T Higgins is going to come down with a lot of touchdowns and have another really big year. All right, Jamie, let's go to round three. You've got the sixth pick of round three.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Your first two rounds, you went wide receiver running backs. You got a balanced start here. Now and with your third round pick, who are you taking? Devante Adams, Lamar Jackson, JSN or James Cook? It's pretty easy for me to take the two receivers to go with the Hero RB build I think is the right way to start almost any team you could you know put together and you're looking at these two wide receivers who have top 10 upside especially for Adams as long as Matthew Stafford is healthy but JSN I think is going to build off what we saw last season even with Sam Donnell in the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I like the setup for both these guys as round three picks. If you're talking about you can get both these guys in round three and round four. So to go hero RB, I have my two receivers, I have my flex, PPR league, I'm good to go. Now listen, if you've been watching since the beginning of today's show, you heard me talk a little smack. That's what fantasy football is about, right? Talk a little smack to Jamie. He said, I drafted better teams than Jamie.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Well, we're going to put that to the test. We're going to compare teams from our pick by pick series after this break on fantasy football today. No frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from no frills with PC express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. Let's take a look at the results of our recent mock draft. 12 teams, three wide receivers, full PPR, and we were exploring different ways to build a roster. So you're gonna see two teams, three wide receivers, full PPR, and we were exploring different ways to build a roster. So you're going to see two teams, teams one and two side by side here. Jamie
Starting point is 00:33:50 drafted from the one spot. I drafted from the two spot. Dave, you were just, uh, you just hit in the casinos and not drafting at all that week. Weren't you Dave? Sounds like something I would do. Okay. Well you tell us what do you think about these two teams? And I think what you're going to notice here is that Jamie and I from the one and two spots, forget about for now, which one you like better, but just the build here. We didn't love the tight end value early. We didn't love the quarterback value early. So we really just hammered running backs and wide receivers and built that out. And I have Baker Mayfield plus Tyler Warren and Mark Andrews. He has Dak Prescott and Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:34:30 So just your thoughts on spending your first seven picks on nothing but receivers and running backs in a three receiver PPR league. This year, I think it's a great way to go about doing things. You're looking for value at quarterback and tight end on draft day. And the reason why you can do that is because there are like 18 quarterbacks that I would feel okay starting in week number one, and this is a 12 team league.
Starting point is 00:34:53 So clearly there's going to be depth of the position, tight end, not quite as deep as quarterback but still good enough where you can wait a little bit and you can load up at the running back and wide receiver positions. And in this league, it's three wide receivers in a flex, if I'm not mistaken, and you can load up at the running back and wide receiver positions and in this league it's three wide receivers in the flex if I'm not mistaken and you're only starting eight players so half of your league can be wide receivers that's why I'm gonna give a slight lean to Jamie and how he built his team he took he's got a great four summit wide receiver he's got good depth of running back I like his values at quarterback and tight end a little bit better Adam
Starting point is 00:35:23 your best value may have been Xavier worthy I think that's good But I think your draft could have been a little bit better after that Jamie just came away with Kamara Pickens Caleb Johnson, I think the too many good values for Jamie made his team a little bit better than yours Mmm, Jamie. I'm gonna tell you the one reason I like my team a little bit better It's cuz I I feel so much more comfortable with Cortland Sutton, who I took 47th, than I do with DJ Moore, who you took 48th. It's just one of those things where it's totally a personal thing.
Starting point is 00:35:53 But how do you see it? Do you think your team is better than mine? I'm happy with that fourth round pick I made. I didn't want to have to take DJ Moore there. But what do you think? I do like Sutton better than DJ Moore. I think that was a great pick by you. And just for context, I don't know how much that would have changed things. We did do this draft prior to the Rashi Rice News, so who knows if Worthy would have been there for you in
Starting point is 00:36:15 round five. Look, when you pick back to back, you're going to have a lot of similar players and similar values because of how they're viewed. And I think you should probably just tell everybody you were using my ranking to make it easy. I was not. Sure. So the nice thing about both our teams is there's, I think, immense upside for both of these rosters, especially if worthy hits, for example, depending on how long Rice is out, if Olavi can be good.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I think both of us probably had to play off of our rosters a little bit. I know for me, for example, I took George Pickens over Chris Olave even though I haven't ranked that way, but I specifically avoided taking Two Saints, for example. I said to you, we've talked about this a lot on our podcast, you could have really made things difficult for me and made me have to take the choice of T Higgins to pair with Jamar Chase if you had taken, let's say, Lad McCon of T Higgins to pair with Jamar Chase. If you had taken, let's say, lad, McConkey over Higgins or somebody else in that range to have to make me take both bangles receivers back to back, which I don't recommend taking with your first two
Starting point is 00:37:12 picks as good as those guys can be. So both these teams should be good. Again, you're competing for second place. You're going to just watch me hand the, you know, get handed the trophy and the big check and you know, listen, I'll take you out for a nice dinner. Listen, the funny thing is you have two teams in this league and so do I. So I guess I'm really competing for third place behind team one and team seven for Jamie, but kind of one and three, you'll be two and four. It's good. Okay. Fair enough. I like even numbers. Just a real quick follow-up. Do you, do you think maybe if you could do it again, that you would actually take Bajan Robinson number one overall, because then this wouldn't eliminate you
Starting point is 00:37:45 from taking T Higgins at the two, three turn, which is great value for Higgins. It is great value for Higgins, but I like Chase as the best player in fantasy. So I'm not gonna make that the reason why I pass on him and take Bijon, Bijon. All right, maybe I shouldn't say great value, but good value for Higgins.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Let's take a look at the second teams that Jamie and I drafted from the seven and eight spots in this draft. And these teams were extremely different. Whereas teams one and two were very similar. You can see I took McCaffrey, AJ Brown, quarterback, tight end. And yet this was another team where Jamie gets great value on Bo Nicks, 144th overall, and Evan Ingram around before that. So he once again, weights on quarterback and tight end. I, so he's, he's got me destroyed at wide receiver. Now, when we did this draft, it looked like I had the edge at running back because Joe Mixon, we didn't think it was that serious. So if for those of you out there could maybe just pretend that Joe Mixon isn't
Starting point is 00:38:40 currently hurt. Pretend it's James Connor, Adam, you would have taken James Connor there and he was still available. Yeah, sure. Do I get a mulligan on Chris Godwin too then? No, you're But no, Dave, we structure these teams very differently and we've talked about this on a podcast before, but now that you've had some time to think about it, do you like Jamie's approach or do you like mine being more aggressive at quarterback and tight end? I like your approach if it's in a league where catches don't count for very much or if it's a 10 team league and eight team league, not in a league like this. This is 12 teams, three wide receivers and a flex.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I think in that deep of a format, taking a quarterback and a tight end with two of your first five picks sets you up to have some weak spots at other places in your lineup. You're gonna have to be a very active fantasy manager, which you should be anyway, to try and cultivate talent off the waiver wire. I do think Jamie went a little hog wild with his wide receivers. He had six wide receivers before drafting a third running back and Trevon Henderson was the second running back, not to mention a quarterback and a tight end, so I think he may have gone a little overboard there, but his receivers just blow yours out of the water.
Starting point is 00:39:48 That's half the starting lineup. I'd rather have Gibbs than Christian McCaffrey. So his team, again, it's close. You did a decent job, Adam, but I think Jamie's team did come out a little bit stronger than yours. I will say, Adam, that we have a lot of trade potential here because of the depth I have a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:40:04 And even though you did take Mixon, we don't know when he's gonna return you did cover yourself with Nick Chubb you also took Jerome Ford again with Quinchon Juck in situation Ford could be They're starting running back there for the Brown So we might be able to work out some sort of a deal here the biggest reason and really it's the only reason because I love Your team here the only reason why I would give my roster and edge over yours is you had the easiest layup of all layups in round 10 to take Isaac Arendo and cover yourself with the 49ers back field. And I'm watching the draft unfold and I see the way that the players are because again,
Starting point is 00:40:38 I know you're using my rankings and I see you take Kyle Williams and I'm like this. He didn't. I can't believe he did it. I'm going to take a random and I'll be very happy with it. If unfortunately, Christian McCaffrey has to miss any time, but that's just the layup of all layups Adam you had right in your lap. Like we say, look for him as early as round eight, just to make sure you get this backfill covered to see him sitting there around 10 and listen, I like Kyle Williams, but I don't think the upside is the same, but both
Starting point is 00:41:04 get the equal amount of playing time. Also, I'll just say this, let's say we were doing a show and 30,000 people were watching or something, and I was alone on a basketball court. And you said to me, you have to dribble from one baseline to the next and make a layup.
Starting point is 00:41:19 I do not think I would make the layup. I'm pretty sure I would miss it. So I miss a lot of layups, Jamie. That's the point of the story. We're gonna come back with your questions. Ask FFT your questions on X after this on FFT. See you soon. The new BMO VI Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more,
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Starting point is 00:42:18 to you. Is HeroRB the best way to go in full PPR three wide receiver leagues? What do you think? 100%, I think it gives you an opportunity to load up on wide receiver and then get some very good value at running back. Dave, you agree? I do, and I think it's doable this year and Hero RB doesn't mean a round one running back either.
Starting point is 00:42:39 You can find a running back that you can build around as late as maybe early round four in your fantasy league. So you don't have to force it with a running back that you can build around as late as maybe early round four in your fantasy league. So you don't have to force it with a running back in round one if you don't want to. All right. Let's go to our next question here. Dinesh. What's up Dinesh? How do you view the Buffalo wide receiver group? I don't know what to make of Shakira Coleman and Palmer and Curtis Samuel is still part of the setup. Yeah, and you know what? Shakira, Coleman, Palmer, I've read great things
Starting point is 00:43:07 about all three of them in the last 24 hours. They're not all going to be great. So Dave, how do you view the Bills wide receivers? With my eyes. But when it comes to fantasy, I think Shakira is the safest of the three. He's probably good for around 12 PPR points per game. Keon Coleman has the most upside of the three.
Starting point is 00:43:24 He could become a touchdown magnet from Josh Allen. And Josh Palmer, someone who I thought was going to have a big year last year, I was dead wrong. I don't know if I would believe in a third receiver in Buffalo. It's been a long time since the Bills receiving core had multiple good options in fantasy. I just think that they keep getting usurped by Josh Allen running the football in for touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And James Cook was involved in so many touchdowns last year. So I don't want to invest too much in any of these wide receivers, but their ADPs are fine. Shakir, somebody who could be a borderline wide receiver three Coleman high upside, Josh Palmer, you might draft them and cut them after one or two weeks. All right, let's go rapid fire here to our next one. It's from Scott. rapid fire here to our next one. It's from Scott. Scott says, if Bijon Robinson goes first, do I go Garrett Wilson at 23? Well, if he takes Bijon in the first, do I go Garrett Wilson at 23 and Kittle at 26 or McBride and then Josh Allen, Jamie? I would go McBride and Josh Allen. Yeah. Don't take Garrett Wilson 23rd overall. Next question. Between these four, Dave, which two do you like in PPR?
Starting point is 00:44:26 Breece Hall, Kamara, Mixon, Ken Walker. You can throw Mixon right out because we know he's not practicing anytime soon. Kamara is one of my favorites in full PPR. He's got huge upside. His ADP is low. I would go with him and Walker. I love what I've been hearing about Walker in Seattle so far this camp. Next question. Last question from TD, smaller leagues, Jamie, like a 10 team PPR two receivers, one flex. How soon would you recommend quarterback in tight end real quick? If you get great value, then take it
Starting point is 00:44:55 because in smaller leagues, you want to get those position advantages if you can. I've got another episode on Wednesday. Listen to our podcast, fantasy football today for Dave and Jamie. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks so much, everyone.

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