Fantasy Football Today - Fill in the Blank: Packers Top WR, ADP Surprises, Sleepers, Best Chargers WR, & More! (06/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: June 30, 2026It's time for another round of Fill in the Blank! Adam Aizer puts the Fantasy Football Today crew on the spot with a series of rapid-fire questions! We start the show with some group chat stats (2:05)... before the latest news and notes from around the NFL (18:02). From there, the crew debates Christian Watson's fantasy ceiling (20:50), highlights players who could see the biggest ADP jumps & sleeper seasons (26:18), plus breaks down the Chargers WR room under new offensive coordinator Mike McDaniel (29:37). After an unexpected, but spirited, fruit salad discussion (37:50), the guys get back to football by predicting when Fernando Mendoza could take over as the Raiders QB1 (44:49). To finish up the show, which TE and value WR should you target to help you find an edge in your fantasy drafts? (48:01). Have a question you want answered? Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.comFantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcastsWatch FFT on YouTube SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on AppleFOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
All right, it is Tuesday, June 30th,
and we've got some fill in the blank for you.
And we're going to talk about Christian Watson's potential,
which Chargers wide receiver is going to benefit the most from a new offense.
A post-hyped sleeper, someone who failed to live up to the hype,
but now is going to make that big jump.
And a lot more.
And we welcome you.
I'm Adam Azer with Heath Cummings and Dave Richard.
I guess not that much more.
We do have a pretty cool stat about...
Dave, what's the...
It's about wide receivers, like two stud-wide receivers on the same team,
and being able to repeat that success, right?
there's been anywhere from zero to two teammates of wide receivers that both finish top 12 in PPR points per game each of the last 11 seasons, 2014 through 2024.
How many times have teammate receivers repeated as top 12 in PPR points per game in consecutive seasons?
Obviously, that would mean repeating over that.
that time span, 2014 to 2024.
Twice.
Heath says twice. Adam,
are you higher or lower than Heath?
Top 12.
Hmm.
I'm going to say, wait, but I thought you said zero to two earlier.
What was that?
Zero to two per year.
Oh, per year.
Per season.
Yes.
He didn't give us the total number.
And we know that CD Lamb and George Pickens were both top 12 on a PPR per
game basis.
I'm going to say three times.
I'm going to say Jason Higgins.
You're saying over.
I didn't ask you to start naming.
You lost at him.
Yeah, over.
You kind of lose on this alone.
Over.
You lost.
The answer is one time.
One time from 2014 to 2024 has a duo finished top 12 in PPR points per game,
back to back seasons.
Can you name the duo?
I'm going to guess you can't.
And Adam, you can guess Jason Higgins,
but that would be incorrect.
Well, then I guess something else.
I want, I want Tom,
Schaefer to guess.
Ah, yeah.
Dealing and Diggs.
No, Jehlin and Diggs.
Oh, damn. I was going to say it.
Thielen also did it with Jefferson.
He did.
I believe. Yeah.
So that was in the same season, but they didn't repeat.
Adam Thielen is the key to having two
wide receivers in the top 12.
So is Devante Adams.
Devante Adams has done it a number of times with Jordy Nelson.
I don't know.
I don't think Garrett, no, not with Garrett Wilson,
overall with Garrett Wilson, but not per game with Garrett Wilson.
and last year overall with Pooka Nakuha.
Devante Adams has actually been,
Dave's doing per game, which is great.
Devante Adams has been a top 12 wide receiver
with a teammate two years in a row.
Garrett Wilson in 2024 and Pooka and Kua last year.
That's raw of EPR points.
Yes.
I had a follow up to Dave's question.
Not a complete answer yet,
but we've begun the research.
I talked about how there were like three or four pairs
or trios of past catchers
that I had projected
for over 65% of their teams off targets.
Adam is now spitting pits to make a point.
Well, what's what we do?
We eat cherries and we spit out the pits in front of people.
We don't eat while we podcast.
This is an idiotic way to try to prove your point.
We do not eat.
Who eats while podcasts?
It's totally gross.
Like one of the times I think I got the most angry at you ever was like a year
into my career at CBS.
And we used to do the baseball podcast.
Like, it eight in the morning, right?
Like, I'm still a little bit grumpy from being up.
And I get on and Adam is eating like a bagel with cream cheese as we're getting ready to start the show.
And like, it was as if he was having a who can eat the loudest content.
Just this bagel and cream.
cheese is just smacking off of his yam.
That's a gross sound.
Anyway, yes.
Last year, the top three trios in terms of target share percentage, A.J. Brown, Devante
Smith, and Dallas Goddard had 68% of the targets in Philadelphia.
Amun Ross St. Brown, James and Jamison Williams and Jemir Gibbs had 67%.
And Bejon, London, and Pitts had 64%.
Um, okay.
Happens a little more than we thought it did.
Well, at least last year.
And, and, uh, you know, for the Falcons, they didn't really add anybody.
And the, the, uh, the Eagles subtracted somebody.
And I'm sorry, what was the other one?
The Lions.
The Lions.
Who they're just going to replace one of J-Mo and Gibbs with LaPorta.
So.
Right. That's the thing.
Um, but that, that one's, sure, more, a little more complicated just because the
Porta's injury.
The reporter's injury opened the way for Gibbs, open the door for Gibbs and J-M-O.
It's amazing, looking at these teams that had two top-12 wide receiver.
It's amazing that the Lions were one of them last year.
In overall points, PPR points, Jameson Williams was the number 12 wide receiver last year,
which blows my mind.
And that's kind of one of the things with per game stats is that sometimes they can be influenced
by the absences of the other receiver.
And sometimes guys can be top 12 for the full season because they played 17 games.
Oh, yeah, all of the time.
Right.
Yeah, right.
So it's just to balance the two of them.
Yeah, yeah.
But it, but you can always add context to either one of those stats.
I just think it's a little easier to add context to the per game.
And if you have, if you have an idea of, okay, this guy can average 15 points per game,
I think you recognize he's not going to do that every single week.
I think you recognize that there will be some weeks where he smashes and some weeks where he's, you know,
four catches, 45 yards, and you got to suck it up.
But the bottom line is that it's a better representation of what a player might be able
to deliver compared to, oh, this guy scored 331 fantasy points last year.
You got to do math to figure out all that other stuff.
I don't know if that necessarily says anything other than the guy played a lot of games
and did pretty good in those games.
Well, I also think that we're making the point that if when you have two teammates who
had great seasons at wide receiver, it's difficult to do it again.
Very.
Right?
Yeah.
17 wide receiver duos.
I've already said that now that's the third time.
One of them repeated top 12, four of them repeated top 15.
That includes last year with Jason Higgins finishing top 13.
So kind of a technicality there.
They were really close.
Three others repeated top 20.
One repeated top 24.
So that's five, eight, nine out of 17 wide receiver groups when they both finish top 12.
they finish top 24 or better the following year.
And I mean, it's history.
It doesn't necessarily speak to anything specifically about lamb and pickens,
but it does suggest, as you just said, Adam,
that it's really, really hard to do.
And I think it forces fantasy managers to make a choice to either ignore this piece of history
or accept that it's going to be really hard and then choose your fighter,
choose which Cowboys wide receiver you'd rather have.
For me, it's Lamb.
He was more consistent last year.
He's been more consistent for fantasy.
I'm willing to take the chance on him finishing as not just top 12,
but top 10, top 8 in PPR points per game versus Pickens,
who might fall off.
And that being said,
yes,
I moved Pickens down a little bit of my rankings,
but I can't find a way to get him out of the top 12 yet.
Yeah.
Well,
I'll also say that,
you know,
Pickens production was boosted by CD Lamb missing some games.
So if you,
for sure.
If you just look at weeks,
uh,
I have it. No, 8 through 17.
The last 10 games, excluding week 18, when they only played a half, on a per game basis, C.D. Lamb was wide receiver 11 per game.
And George Pickens was wide receiver.
No, Pickens was 11 per game. Lam was 13 per game.
Right.
But if you just look at the targets, Lamb was on pace for 156 and Pickens was on pace for 146.
the problem is in those 10 games,
they each caught only three touchdowns.
So I think they'll do better than 13th and 11th
because I think they'll score more touchdowns.
But, you know, I don't know what the target split will be.
You know, will it be 156 for Lamb and 146 per Pickens?
If that's the case, I'm fine taking both of them where they're going.
But obviously we should expect Lamb to have more targets
and Pickens targets to be worth more than Lambs.
Fair.
Okay.
All right.
So we're starting off with that stat about the repeat wide receipts.
receivers also wanted to mention that, you know, I got an email yesterday saying, stop talking about third down snaps for running backs. They don't, it doesn't necessarily matter. Just because they're on the field for third down doesn't mean they're catching passes. And it's a good point. It doesn't necessarily matter for a lot of running backs, like Quinn Allen, for an example. But it does matter, I think, for Aaron Rogers running backs. Rogers has been fourth and first in running back targets per game on third down over the last two seasons. This, what? This is my favorite.
my favorite Aaron Rodgers Stett.
Yeah, it's just what he does.
And it's since the tour of Achilles.
And Kenneth Gainwell,
Kenneth Gainwell had 32 targets and 24 catches on third down.
So that's why I thought it was important
yesterday to have that conversation
about who's going to be the third down back for the Steelers
because I think that's probably the most valuable.
Going into this season,
it looks like the most valuable third down role
or at least one of them in the NFL.
There's like a million things of what does the reunion of Aaron Rogers
and Mike McCarthy look like.
but I did think it was interesting.
Over the last three years,
Aaron Rogers' running back target rate,
23.9%, 19.3%, 20.6%.
That's definitely high for a quarterback.
Like, not quite best in the league over those three years,
but maybe one of the years it was, but definitely high.
The last three years, he played with Mike McCarthy,
14.9%, 11.7%, 15.9%.
Yeah.
An enormous difference is that just,
just because he tore the Achilles and he's not mobile.
And so now he just throws to running backs or a lot of those third down throw is going to go to Michael Pitman now.
I think he just doesn't.
I think it's an old age problem.
I don't think he wants to get beat up anymore.
And that might be because of what happened with the Achilles.
Not that the Achilles injury happened because of fierce hits that he took.
I mean, it happened as soon as the season started practically.
But I think as you see with older quarterbacks and older players in general, man, they feel a little bit,
different when you take on a hit from somebody who's 15 years younger than you.
And I think that's what it is for Rogers.
And that's why he's getting the ball out quick.
And I think that will continue.
All right.
Last stat on that.
If you just want to maybe look at Rogers with the Jets, okay, coming off the tornikilles,
the first six games of the season, Breeze Hall was on pace for 96 targets.
Then they traded for Devante Adams.
Now they have Wilson and Adams.
Is that the same as Pitman and Metcalf?
No, but I think they led the NFL and pass attempts that year.
So it's similar.
And then Breeze Hall in the last, I think he only played nine games,
maybe 10 games out of 11.
He was on pace for, I think, 72 targets, something like that.
He had 52, on pace for 52 catches.
But you can see, I make the case,
he's going to be really good.
Roger's going to be really good for his running backs of the game.
But I'm now statistically giving a case
sort of against it, and now that he has two receivers worth throwing to instead of just one last year,
that he might not throw those running backs as much.
He might have three receivers worth throwing too.
Yeah, I mean, it's possible.
But he just, he doesn't want to get hit.
He gets the ball out super quickly.
He throws the ball behind the line of scrimmage all the time.
You know, he'll throw to his wide receiver, his running backs just don't know how much.
By the way, I was calling these water cooler stats.
Jamie texted me and notified me last week that, I think,
it's the fantasy life newsletter has around the water cooler.
And they have some stats and stuff.
It's not stats.
It's like articles and things like that.
So what do you think?
Do I need to change it?
Yeah, I think that certainly if one podcast is using terminology,
then no other fantasy podcast can use the same terminology.
We have a pretty exclusive rights agreement with the rest of the industry that we all agree,
that we get certain phrases and we don't share phrases at all.
They better not use azer stats at them.
Or maybe they should because then you could sue them.
They won't.
But Jamie said, quote, you stole it, which obviously I didn't do.
But we can leave it as water cooler stats or we can go with group chat stats.
Maybe you text it to your fantasy football group chat.
There you go.
I like that.
What's worse?
What is like evokes more angst amongst the listener?
That's not what I'm going for.
standing around a water cooler at your place of work or being caught in a group chat.
Oh, people like group chats.
Oh, nobody likes group chats.
I love my group chats.
Thomas, we need a poll.
Do you like group chat checks chats?
Group chats.
But it needs to be, okay, because sometimes I like them and sometimes I don't.
So I think it's a little, maybe it's like, do you wish group chats existed?
How about that?
Sure. I'm good with group chats.
I just don't necessarily participate in them.
Comment from Mr. Scampers.
I've heard another show you start or sit before.
So, all right, we're going to take.
I haven't seen Mr. Scampers.
Also, Mr. Scampers, I agree.
That's the even worst part.
It's like if you are in a group chat, you can guess that half the people in it have it muted and aren't going to respond.
Or it's a group chat that you don't care about and you've got it muted.
and you don't see this stuff.
Group chats are the worst.
I've got so many group chats.
I don't think it's worth going through this.
This one group of friends I have like five different group chats for.
It's pretty funny.
But listen, Beyond the Box Score, go to YouTube.com, search for Beyond the Box Score.
They've got their own audio feed as well.
Great content there.
I think all of us are going to be making appearances on Beyond the Box Score.
Jacob was listening to our, this week for Dave.
Okay, next week for me.
Jacob was listening to one of our recent shows and loved our conversation about
Tray McBride.
And I was like, well, I talked about it for 30 minutes on our show.
I'll come and talk about her for an hour on yours.
So I know we're going to do that next week.
Anyway, looking forward to that.
We'll take a quick break, some quick news items, and then fill in the blank when we come back.
All right, we're back.
I've got a little bit of an issue here, guys.
In my commitment to the bit, I still have two cherries left.
I've already made my point, and we've gotten the laughs out of it.
But I feel like I have to eat them.
Why didn't you eat them during the break?
Yeah, that's what I did.
I was looking through my notes.
I was getting ready for the next segment.
Well, we'll have another break coming up.
Okay.
I don't know if I can.
Why don't you come back from break and then spit out the seed on the microphone for everybody to hear?
So, I, well, all right.
I think we do have a fruit salad related fill in the blank a little bit later.
I guess we'll get to that.
News and notes, Mark Andrews says the Ravens offense is totally different than anything we've seen or anything we've done, he said.
He also said it's a scary sight when you see.
see Lamar Jackson adding new things to his repertoire, which is not a word I like pronouncing,
by the way.
But I'm wondering what this office is going to look like.
I mean, are they going to throw the ball 30 times a game?
This is bad news for Henry?
Is it just good news for everyone?
I made the point with you yesterday on Express, Dave, because you wrote a great article about
all of the 18 new play callers that we have, that Lamar Jackson was actually incredibly good
with Todd Monkin.
I don't even know how he could be much better.
but what do you think the offense is going to look like?
He was good until he got banged up last year,
and then the wheels came off.
We all remember that in the second half of last season.
We know that they're moving on from the fullback.
They're going to use more tight ends.
Not only is Declan Doyle, a former tight ends coach,
but he has really embraced the idea of using multiple tight ends.
I think that's probably helping make Mark Andrews feel better about the offense
and his role in it.
I do think there will be a little bit more creativity,
a little bit more play.
action passing, more passing overall.
And the way Lamar has thrown when he's been healthy the last few years has been really
impressive.
And then you tack on what he might be able to do, scrambling, designed runs on top of it.
And there's a really good case to be made that he could be not the first QB off the board.
I think Josh Allen's earned that title, but the second QB off the board, I can kind of
dig into that a little bit, especially with Miles Garrett out of the division now, two fewer
games without him.
Dude, I think that there could be some really good games ahead for
Lamar Jackson, even though Declan Doyle is a first-year play caller, that's always something
that you've got to be worried about.
He is the second quarterback off the board on fantasy pros, on draft sharks, but a decent
amount behind Josh Allen, so there's a discount there.
Pretty big news with the Lions, they released cornerback Terry and Arnold, who was arrested
last week on charges of armed robbery and kidnapping, and he's a good player.
He's a first round pick.
The stats with him on and off the field last year,
they're not dramatically different.
They're a little worse with him off the field.
He missed half the season.
He only played eight games.
Some of the games he left early anyway.
But, you know, I've talked about this a lot.
Each of the last two years,
the Lions have started out not really throwing the ball that much.
And then their defense falling apart,
and they've thrown the ball a ton.
So this is a big blow to their defense.
And Jets rookie tight end, Kenyon, Sadiq,
is expected to be ready for training camp.
He had hernia surgery and hopefully back pretty soon.
Okay, let's do it.
Fill in the blank.
I want to thank our Twitter and Facebook audience for giving us these fill in the blanks.
First one comes from Jovan.
In a best case scenario, Christian Watson will finish his wide receiver blank.
Like where amongst the wide receivers?
What else would it be?
Or like a top 24 wide receiver or wide receiver two?
I'm not sure what Jovan's looking for.
Yeah, yeah.
Like his best case scenario is finished?
Let's say a half top number two wide receiver.
Let's say wide receiver 16 overall.
I was going to say that.
Dave, jinks.
It's so hard.
Like what, what in a Matlaffloor, like best case scenario is still supposed to be somewhat like within the realm of possibility, right?
Yeah.
So in a Matla floor offense, what is the best case scenario for a wide receiver's total number of targets?
Well, let's, let's, is it more than that we've ever seen?
I broke it down actually, sort of.
I'm, this is, remember, best case scenario for Christian Watson.
From weeks 11 through 17, he had a 23.5% target share.
And he did that.
15.1 p.R points per game.
He did that while running only 69.1% of the routes.
But a 23.5% target share, that's a very good target per outrun rate.
He left one of those games early with an injury.
When he came back, the next two weeks, he was somewhat limited.
But still, 23.5% target share.
What does that look like in the Jordan Love era?
Over the last three seasons, based on the amount of pass attempts,
the Packers have had, a 23.5% target share would have been 137, 113 and 115 targets.
Considering Watson was a top 20 wide receiver last year and he was only on pace for 94 targets,
if he gets 115 targets, this has been a guy who's been one of the most efficient wide receivers in the NFL.
He's going to say he hasn't done it on that many targets.
That's 100% true.
But if he gets 115 targets, I think the best case scenario is even better than wide.
receiver 16. Well, if you believe, like last year he had 55 targets, averaged 11.1 yards per
target, and scored six times on 55 targets. So if, yes, if he had 130 targets and scored 15
touchdowns on those 130 targets and averaged 11 yards per target, he would be the best
wide receiver in fantasy football. I said 115 targets. I don't, I don't think he's going to get 130 with a
He had a 15.5 yard a dot.
No one's getting 130 targets with that.
Few people are getting 130.
I'd probably say wide receiver 20.
You know what?
17.8 a dot.
Yeah, sorry.
That week 11 through 17 stretch when he had the high target share was 15.5.
Yeah, that's high.
But he still managed to get done.
Very up and down production in those weeks.
There were three games where he was under 10 PPR points per game and four where he had at least 18 PPR points per game.
per game. So boom bus nature.
I feel a little uncomfortable saying that he could be top 12, but let's say he stays healthy
in the theory that you laid out at him.
Yeah, he could do it.
So I'm going to change my answer.
I'm going to say top 12 wide receiver.
Wide receiver 12 exactly.
I think when you look at his profile, pretty similar player to Alec Pierce.
And I think those two guys have been first and second in yards per target and yards
per catch the last two years.
And fantasy pros right now,
Christian Watson is going
54th, and Alec Pierce
is going 82nd.
Pierce is injured right now,
so that's part of it.
But you think about that,
you want a little bit of a Christian Watson
discount.
It might be Alec Pierce.
54th seems a little bit rich.
That's exactly where I have them
in my top 200.
And I get it.
I agree with you, Heath.
It's rich for a dude who's
so many injuries, but last year, and in previous years, he's been a very high touchdown guy.
He makes those splash plays.
What about the idea of, all right, I'm nervous about drafting Christian Watson because I know he can miss some games.
Could I also pair him with Matthew Golden later in the draft do the Azer Friendship Strategy?
That's another term that another podcast isn't allowed to use friendship strategy, where you lock up, theoretically, the number one wide receiver on the pack.
Packers.
Yeah, except that you do have the risk that it's just another Matliflor offense.
And Christian Watson has 98 targets, and Matthew Golden has 87, and Tucker Graff has 86.
And that's just what they've done.
But there was a six-game sample where Christian Watson got a 23% target share.
I think.
And Tucker Kraft was out.
Taking out Dobbs and Wicks, I think, helps people buy into the Packers'
passing game a little bit more.
Maybe there will be a little bit more concentration among the targets between Watson and Golden and Kraft.
And Jane Reed, we can't forget about him too.
He's probably going to see an uptick as well.
I don't mind taking the chance on Watson.
I think he does have huge upside as we just talked about.
Okay.
You know what I think a good episode topic will be is let's look at ADPs of players on the same
team and figure out who's the best value.
Kyron Williams or Blake Corum
Christian Watson or Jaden Reed or
Matthew Golden, that kind of stuff.
Yeah, great idea, Adam.
All right, Michael Patrick, fill in the blank.
Blank will jump from outside a top 12 pick this year
to a top five pick next year.
That's an easy one.
I can think of three young running backs
that you can make the case for.
Who? Gentie Hampton.
Gentie Hampton and Jeremiah Love.
Heath, is that where you were going with?
I was thinking Jeremiah Love, but yeah, Jimty, I mean, one of Jimty or Hampton might be a top 12 pick this year.
No, but they're saying top.
Oh, yeah, but it will be a top five next year.
Right, but if they're inside the top 12 this year, they don't qualify, right?
Yes.
According to Michael Patrick's phone in the blank, correct.
Yeah, I would say, I would say Jeremiah loves probably the answer.
Okay.
If he's the answer, then we should be a lot more interested in drafting him.
Well, okay, I should clarify.
The answer is probably blank because no one doesn't.
Well, I also think that Jeremiah Love could have a year where he's not,
where he's not like that great for fantasy,
but he shows us enough.
And then Connor's gone next year.
And then it's like, you know, wheels up kind of big ADP boost.
ADP.
ADP.
80P.
All right.
This is from Eric.
What happens after the cherries?
Oh, man.
Sorry.
Can you talk for a second so I can queue up my Eric?
Eric's got a question.
Fill in the blank.
Blank will be a post-type sleeper.
Yeah.
Who's a post-type sleeper, guys?
Someone who failed to live up to the expected jump,
but now we're going to get something.
Well, Watson would qualify for that.
Would he not?
Yeah.
Quentin Johnston.
No, you can't answer him.
We have a Chargers question later.
Next.
Can I say the 2025 rookie running back class?
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah.
Henderson especially.
Yeah.
I suggested Ricky Pearsall.
In his career,
Ricky Pearsall has seven or more targets in six games.
He has 85 yards or more in five of those six games.
And in the other one,
he had six catches, 69 yards in a touchdown.
He's really good per target.
Last year, super high, very high A.
Dot, not super high, but 14.1 yard A.
dot. He would fall into that sacrificial X category last year. I wonder if Mike Evans
does more of the downfield stuff and Pierceall can get back to like a 10, 11 yard, A dot.
He's definitely on the Christian Watson-Aleck Pierce spectrum. Yes, yes. And you can get them later
than those guys. But I don't know. I don't know if what do you mean by that?
Boom bust wide receiver three who could win you a week and could go a month without topping 50 yards.
Yeah.
Or could put it all together and have a really good year.
If everyone's healthy, I think I think Pierceall is probably not going to matter much.
But everyone being healthy is George Kittle coming off in ACL,
Mike Evans at age 32 or 33,
and Christian McCaffrey at age 30 coming off a 400-touch season.
So maybe the young guy, who's always hurt, by the way, can stay healthy.
How many of those guys played more games than Ricky Pearsall last?
Yeah.
All right.
Ghost Carrigan says,
the Chargers receiver that will thrive the most under Mike McDaniel's system is blank.
Oh, so you're expecting this answer to be Quentin.
No, whatever you want.
I think it's Ladd-McConkie.
Route running, versatility, good hands, after-catch ability.
He's already shown it to us over the past two seasons, just more so as a rookie,
when there wasn't as much target competition.
And there's still going to be a lot of target competition.
But for what McDaniel's looking for from this offense, I think McConkey is a great fit.
Yeah, at its best, from my view, the Mike McDaniel offense is creating explosives.
And I think Quentin Johnston's much better at creating explosives in Ladd-McConquious.
How many of those explosives were created by not Tyreek Hill and not Jalen Wattle?
And maybe that's an unfair question because those two guys, I mean, he had him, he used them.
They put up some huge numbers, Tyreek especially.
I don't think he's got a Tyreek Hill on his team right now.
Maybe he's got a Jalen Waddle.
But if we're just saying, like, who's the fast guy?
Lad Mokonki's slow?
I wouldn't say slow.
Is Lab Mokonky faster than Quentin Johnson?
I think he's quicker than Quentin Johnston.
He's definitely quicker, and he can definitely change directions faster.
And he's got better hands.
Well, he ran a better 40, I mean, I think anyway.
Quentin Johnson ran a 452.
Let's see what that's not very good.
I thought he was faster than that.
Well, that, you know, 439 for Ladd-McConkey.
There was, there was a report, not a report, but like a speculation from a writer.
It said, Quentin Johnson is going to benefit because he's going to, he's been miscast as this Mike Williams' ex-receiver.
And Mike McDaniel's going to use him more on shorter stuff and he's going to excel after the catch.
I'm surprised that the report, I'm sorry, Dave, I'm surprised the reporter picked Quentin Johnston for that.
because I really think Ladd-McConkie is better at that than Quentin Johnson is.
So what does this, and maybe it means nothing, but in their careers, both Ladd-McConkey and
Quentin Johnston average 4.7 yak per reception.
Johnston's had an a.2 yards higher than Ladd-McConkey.
Yeah, I don't know.
I can tell you that in terms of explosives, if you look at McConkey's rookie year, it was like off
the charts, making big.
plays.
I just think he's better than Quentin Johnson, but that doesn't mean that Johnson's not
the better value, because obviously you're all taking Conkey ahead of Johnson, right?
Yeah.
Who's the better value?
Oh, I think Johnston's the better value for sure.
I'm not drafting lad because he's going before I'll draft him.
Where's he going?
Round four is a guess.
Three, four turn.
Quentin Johnson's going 80.
I'm good with that. In PPR, I'm good with that.
All right. Next up from Stumble Bumble.
And by the way, I'm sorry, someone said in the chat, if I said Kittletor's ACL, my bad, it was his Achilles.
Stumble Bumble says, blank will blank and people will be blank blank blank.
Blank will blank and people will be blank blank blank.
Stumble Bumble will ask a weird fill in the blank and people will be.
clueless with what to do with it.
So I have one here.
You have one?
I've got one.
Okay, go ahead.
Kyler Murray will win the starting job in Minnesota,
and people will be talking about him as a top 12 quarterback.
I guess my only issue is,
is anyone in the world not think Kyler Murray is going to win the...
Well, I actually was on the Football Guys Dynasty podcast with Jeff Bell last night,
And we talked about this because, and this was kind of a joke on Twitter.
Like the A.J. Brown thing, everybody knew he was going to be traded to the Patriots,
but as soon as he was traded to the Patriots, his value shot up.
Everybody expected that Rashi Rice was going to get out of jail after 30 days because that's how long his sentence was.
But as soon as people saw him walking out of jail, his ADP shot back up.
Everybody pretty much expects Kyler Murray to win the starting job in Minnesota.
But as soon as he wins the starting job in Minnesota, we're going to see a bunch of articles about,
Do you remember how much Kyler runs and now he's got Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison?
Kyler Murray could be a top 12 quarterback.
Yeah.
Okay.
I accept it.
So I'm going to throw one out that I don't necessarily believe, but I just want to see how you guys feel about it.
This is a player that I feel like has fallen into this black hole of never being talked about on our show.
Blank will blank and people will be blank blank.
Javante Williams will struggle and people will be adding Jaden Blue.
What do you think?
I don't really think I believe that Javante Williams is going to.
to struggle. But I do think that
you're right. There was some
talk early in the offseason about how they were done
with Jade on Blue. And now it
sounds like, now what I'm reading,
and Dave, maybe you've seen something else. It's
the Cowboys really want Blue
to be their RB2.
But he can't
be as bad as he was last camp.
I think they want him to be the RB2 because he
offers some speed
that they don't have
from any of their other running backs.
someone suggesting Dan saying Jeremiah Love will split carries and people will be mad.
Sure.
Yeah, but we're expecting that to a degree.
It just depends on how much, how many carries will split.
Okay.
All right, let's take a break.
Fantasy football today will go to break and people will be very patient and Adam will eat his cherries after this or during this.
Delicious, delicious commercial break.
Caden says, Blank will greatly outperform.
their ADP and nobody will be surprised.
Pick an old guy.
Mahomes, Devante, Mike Evans, Kelsey.
Would you really be surprised if any of those guys finished top 12 at their position?
I think based on conversations we've had on this show that maybe our favorite ADP is Isaiah
Likelies is going 125th overall, according to fantasy pros, and 130s.
overall on draft sharks.
95th on CBS,
but tight end 13 for likely on fantasy pros and draft sharks.
I feel like that's kind of like the FFT guy right now
and just one of the best values.
Okay, sure.
But I think some people would be surprised
if he outperformed his ADP.
When it's a name you know that's going later in drafts
because of the grandma Gilmore rule
and then they end up overcoming it,
you're not going to be surprised.
You're going to be like, yeah,
I should have just drafted the really good player.
Bill Van Sickle says,
Blank is the worst possible addition to any fruit salad.
And the answer is bananas at Dave Richard is disgusting.
The fact that he called me disgusting for liking bananas
really shocked me.
I've always believed that bananas were very popular.
You see them at every single.
buffet table that you go to, not that you guys go to a lot of buffets, but I mean, look at me.
You know, I do.
But they're not in a fruit salad, Dave.
They're, you know, they're whole and a meal.
I have seen them in a fruit salad.
And the problem with them in a fruit salad is bananas, when sliced and mixed with other
fruit and sit there for any period of time at all, they don't last like the other fruit does.
They're going to start turning a little bit brown.
They're going to get a little bit mushy.
The rest of your fruit's going to taste like mushy banana.
I think bananas is a fruit that should be eaten on its own.
How long is your fruit salad party for that to happen?
Are we talking like an 18-hour layout?
I've seen bananas laid out in a fruit salad
and they don't turn brown and mushy.
So first of all, Heath, I mean, your takes on fruit salad have been
necessarily agreed with all of them, but they've been really good.
I mean, I love them.
You didn't expect me to have a lot of fruit salad takes, did you?
Not really.
I mean, you really get like analytical about this.
It's great.
However, you say mushy instead of mushy, and that is interesting to me.
And that I think is wrong.
I think you lose points for pronunciation there.
We should have a fruit salad tournament.
We do have a fruit salad poll on YouTube, and it's pretty close.
Oh, no, we have a group chat poll.
Never mind.
Do you like group chats?
Yes, 54%.
No, I'm with Heath, 46%.
Okay.
Thank you to Thomas for not putting yes, I'm with Adam, because there's no way that would have been winning.
But yeah, pretty close there with the group chats.
All right, look, I think banana is fine in a fruit salad, Dave.
It's not the worst possible edition.
I think grapefruit is because grapefruit is like a practical joke.
It's not really a fruit.
It's just horrible.
Yeah, that doesn't belong in a fruit salad.
But you put bananas with strawberries and you've got a delectable treat that everybody would enjoy.
Strawberry banana milkshake is my ghost back in the day.
Hell yeah.
That's a sonic.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And think about all the other things you could do with bananas.
Banana splits, banana smoothies.
You can add it to your protein shake.
And by the way.
And it's the commercials know that I know a thing or two about those.
Sam, Sam Davis, one of our other producers, Sam Davis, the third.
He put up the YouTube poll about the salads, about the group chat.
Sorry.
So, Sam, thank you for not putting my name on the yes option.
All right, we got a few more fill in the blanks.
One is from James.
and he has four different fill in the blanks.
So James says,
Blank will outperform his ADP the most at tight end,
and Blank will be the biggest disappointment at tight end.
It's probably likely in McBride.
I suppose.
I think Pitts can be a pretty big disappointment.
We've seen that plenty of times throughout his career.
Where's Fannin's ADP?
Fannin is tight end seven going 95th?
Yeah, that's, he can,
outperform that.
And I think likely's a good one.
I think Chig O'Conquo could be a good one to outperform ADP.
Hey, Heath, tight end seems kind of deep this year.
With this next guy that I'm going to talk about as being a disappointment,
I don't hate where he's going necessarily overall.
But among tight ends, Tucker Kraft as tight end five, little nerve-wracking for me.
But 80-second overall, not bad.
if you knew he was going to be okay,
like he's participating in training camp,
looks fine.
Would you change that opinion?
Not really.
Because you know what I'm going to say.
I say the same thing every time.
It's like, yeah, he's playing.
He looks good, whatever.
But when he's actually on the field,
we don't know that he's going to be the same
until the following year.
I will say, though, that everything we saw from Christian Watson last year,
we talked about him half hour ago, whatever,
he was coming off a torn ACL.
It's true.
There have actually been, as I dug into
a little bit and looked at guys coming off major injuries.
There have been more success stories than I was aware of.
So it does make me feel like I'm too low if I'm just ruling out guys coming off serious
injuries.
Sometimes they are better than I think.
So, yeah, let's keep that in mind.
But craft, like, I expect Kraft to be, could be at some point in training camp,
full go.
I just don't know that he is another guy.
He was on pace for like 90 tariff.
or something like that, if that, I don't even know.
You know, he was a little unsustainable.
All right, next one from James.
Blank will be this year's Brian Thomas Jr.
Highly touted young wide receiver who totally disappears.
Hopefully nobody.
Totally disappears.
I don't think Teteroa will totally disappear.
I don't think Abuka will do what he did at the end of last year.
Doesn't have to be a second year guy.
A second year guy?
Well, where does Luther?
burden fall on this list. Are we sure he's just going to be a house of fire right from the jump?
He could disappoint, just thinking about how many other players are getting targets in Chicago.
Is Malik neighbors considered young? Yes.
Could he disappoint coming off of a torn ACL plus other stuff? Yes.
Yeah, I don't want it to be any of the second year, guys, but if I was looking for the profile
that was most similar to Brian Thomas Jr.
It might be Abuka.
Abuka actually had a higher A-DOT as a rookie than Brian Thomas Jr. did.
If he just is, if Chris Godwin takes that slot role and has the easy targets and
Abuka is working more downfield, it could be.
And he's already been banged up and we've seen injuries impact him a little bit in
his career.
If he gets a little banged up and he's running 16 yards downfield every play.
Yeah.
Okay.
Actually, a good point.
next up. But we expect a different role for Abuka, right, Dave? I mean, that's kind of...
I think he'll do more than just be the downfield guy. I think they're going to use him in every way possible. Whereas Godwin, and I think Heath is actually dead on on this, which made me appreciate the point, is that Godwin will go back to the slot and be a short area target, a checkdown guy, you know, an easy button, as it were for Baker Mayfield. But I think Abuka is going to get a couple of layup targets and a couple of long ball targets every week.
week two.
All right.
Let's go to our next one.
Kirk Cousins will start blank games in Las Vegas before passing the torch to Fernando
Mendoza.
I'm going to say week 14.
Whoa.
That's after their by week.
They'll be at home.
There are, they have a lot of easy matchups early in the year.
And then in the middle of the year, right when you might think that they would turn to
Mendoza, I think there's like one game against the Jets in there, but there's a ton of
tough matchups.
I will buy you
I will buy you
a bunch of bananas
done for two straight months
done if he's starting in week 14
or I guess week 13
or whatever
well week 13 is thereby
okay if Kirk Cousins is still starting
at week 12
and Fernando Mendoza is healthy
one bunch of bananas per week
for two months
and I don't have to give you anything
in return
nope I feel very
first of all bananas
what $2 dollars
250.
How much kind of banana costs?
No,
a bunch of bananas is like 250.
Now you're talking about buying $13 bunches of bananas.
All right.
So that's like 10 weeks.
So we're talking 25.
It could be like half your paycheck.
$25.30 here.
I'll,
I'll give my bold prediction.
Week two.
Raiders.
Kirk Cousins is a disaster week one and the Raiders lose to the dolphins.
And they just in really pivot at home.
And they're like,
I mean, I think if it's that, if it's that close to being,
That's the game of the week, yeah.
If it's that close between cousins and Mendoza,
I think they start Mendoza week one.
What better matchup for them than home against the dolphins for Fernando Mendoza
to get his feet wet?
It does not get easier than the Miami Dolphins this year.
All right.
The last running back I'm comfortable having as my RB1 is blank.
Kyron Williams
Breast Hall
going right around there
Yeah, that's the range
Yeah, they're back to back on fantasy pros
Then Javante
Oh, Travis A-chan
That'd be fine with him
Hmm
Like, Camara's going to stick around, isn't he?
Maybe
I don't know
How many carries is Alvin Camara gonna get?
Very few.
What if he just takes the targets?
That's the thing.
There aren't that many running backs.
I'm sorry, Dave.
There aren't that many running backs
are getting a lot of catches these days.
So when you compare to Travis E.T.N.
Travis H.N. to Kieran Williams.
Who's going to get more catches?
Probably A. Chan with or without Camara.
I have E.T.A.N.
predicted for four more catches than Kyron.
Yeah.
With or without.
With or without Camara.
The States can't.
And live with or without Camara.
One of my favorite songs.
It's a great.
The Camara version.
From Bryn, our last one is from Brin.
Brin has three.
The first tight end,
there's so many tight end ones.
The first tight end I'm targeting is blank.
Whichever one presents good value.
No.
Well, I'm not really targeting any one guy.
I think my answer has to be Leporta.
because he goes before pits usually.
I'm not targeting any one specific tight end.
I'm sorry.
Yes, you are.
Blank is the value-wide receiver that I'm hoping to sneak away with.
I got two.
Parker, Washington, Wondale Robinson.
And they're the same kind of profile.
Short area receivers, high volume.
I'm playing the fantasy game, not the who looks good in highlights game.
I will say Terry McLoran and Quentin Johnston.
Yeah, I was going to say Quentin Johnson.
And on a high end, A.J. Brown for me.
You guys are going to steam up Quentin Johnston into round six.
No.
There's going to be some disappointed people.
For my rookie draft, I should open up spots on my roster.
Blank the draft happens.
I get it, I get it.
For my rookie drafts,
I should open up spots on my roster,
blank the draft happens after.
Ask Dan how that turned out for him.
I would say the answers before.
Oh, man, that's great stuff.
Whatever is the least amount of work for the commissioner.
Or you just don't have a rookie draft like Adam.
That's true.
There will be a rookie draft.
I just, you know,
the season is 10 weeks away or something like that.
I only know that because is that right?
Does that sound right?
Ten and a half.
Yeah.
Ten weeks and two days.
I saw Scott Hansen tweet, I'll see you in 11 Sundays or something.
I was like, oh, wow, it's coming up.
How dumb.
What a dumb thing to do, tweet how many Sundays there are before the football season.
I never see your tweets.
Did he steal that from you, Dave?
Yeah.
Everybody stole it from me.
It's why I don't do it anymore.
Let's check in on our fruit salad.
pole. It's not a fruit salad pole.
It's not. Yeah, dude. It's a group chap.
No, there's a new one. It's a fruit salad poll now.
Pick your ideal fruit for a fruit salad.
Bananas, cherries, strawberries, or grapes.
This is very lopsided.
I didn't say bananas were the best one.
I would say strawberries the answer.
I would, too.
I was going to say strawberries, but I feel like I listed grapes first yesterday on the show,
so I felt obligated to pick grapes.
which came in second place to strawberries, which has 63% of the vote.
Bananas, though, above cherries.
That's the good news.
Cherries are the worst.
I think we established yesterday, the worst.
I mean, they're great fruit.
They're just bad for a fruit salad.
Right, because you have to eat fruit salad in public.
You can't eat fruit salad in private.
Exactly.
What other show can help you win your fantasy leagues and help you set up a kick-ass fruit salad at your picnic?
We have some more fill in the blanks from Wiscoe Disco.
Blank is the worst type of base.
bagel.
Sesame.
Dry.
What is that?
A bagel without
butter on it.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
I think like a chocolate chip
bagel is revolting.
A blueberry bagel is revolting.
Oh, I love blueberry.
Blueberry bagel with peanut butter.
I'm willing to try it.
I'm willing to try it.
I'd be willing to try it too,
but that's a contender for
disgusting bagel sandwich.
Yeah, I'll try it this week.
I might try it today.
Jeremiah, this is from the blank will blank and people will blank blank.
Jeremiah level, oh, we did that one.
I'm sorry.
This was from, this is one of our tight end ones.
Chig O'Conquo will outperform his ADP.
Yeah, we mentioned him.
Does he have one?
I think he's in the tight end 15, 16 range.
He's another name that's going to steam up once training camp opens and the reports come out of Washington.
It will really help him if Iyuk does not end up with the command.
commanders. I think the commanders would be certifiable right now if they, like,
Brad Iyuk is not putting out a good audition tape these days. No, it's almost tampering.
Are we going to argue, going to have a Greg Dulcich versus Chigo Conquo disagreement on the show?
You might get there at some point. I do like Dolcich a lot.
Yeah, baby. I like them both.
I did not go to the store just for the cherries bit to answer your question. I went to the store
the other day and bought cherries and they're great.
It's almost like I don't want this show to end.
We're having too much fun.
But I'm going to end it here.
Oh, also 9 a.m. tomorrow, right?
Yep.
Well, how about 11.30 a.m. today in like an hour and a half.
Hell yeah.
Matthew Rupert from the Couchouts coming on to talk about Dynasty rankings,
risers and fallers.
He's also a big devie guy.
So going to ask him a little, a couple questions about the 27 class and like what college players we should be watching
early this season to kind of determine
if those 27 picks are going to really be as good as we thought they are.
Okay.
Listen, if he says water cooler stats,
I'm going to come on the show and give him a piece of bye-bye.
That would be fantastic.
All right, for Dave and Heath and Thomas and Sam, I'm Adam.
Talk to you tomorrow, 9 a.m. Eastern on Fantasy Football today.
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