Fantasy Football Today - Final Sleepers/Breakouts/Busts; Preseason Risers (08/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 30, 2021

Bid on our Draft-A-Thon items right now to benefit St. Jude! http://cbssports.com/ebay Join our poker tournament to benefit St. Jude! stjude.org/draftathon We'll touch on Gus Edwards (6:15), Michael Pittman (11:40) and more after we discuss some of our big takeaways from Preseason Week 3. What stood out to us? Pittsburgh's offensive line, Terrace Marshall and more ... News and notes (15:15) including Irv Smith's value and the Deshaun Watson rumors and then we talk more about this weekend's action (20:30). Does Courtland Sutton's return make us hesitant to draft Jerry Jeudy? Are we interested in any Bills other than the two obvious guys? What's up with the 49ers QB situation? ... Our final round of sleepers (29:30), breakouts (44:00) and busts (51:40)! Our analysts give their top 3 in each category. A lot of love for Laviska Shenault and Jakobi Meyers. Not as much for Aaron Rodgers at his ADP ... Email us at [e-mail] 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Two weeks from today, we'll be recapping week one, baby. Get excited. But right now we get to recap week three, baby. Preseason week three and a little bit of that, but a lot of injury talk. And our final edition of Sleepers, Breakouts, and Busts. Welcome to your Sunday night slash Monday morning edition of Fantasy Football Today.

Adam Azer, Jamie Eisenberg, Heath Cummings, Dave Richard. What'd you think about my boy Daniel Jones tonight? Yeah. Oh boy, was that, whoo, yikes. Did you, like, what was going on when you did that thing on Twitter where you tried to make a case for the Giants winning the division? I don't know what you're talking about, Heath. That was someone else who hacked into my account. The Eagles are going to win the division.

I'm going with the Eagles. All right, we've got some Twitter polls, some Gus Edwards and Michael Pittman Twitter polls. If you didn't listen to our 15-minute bonus podcast about Gus Edwards, please do that. It dropped on Sunday morning along with our mailbag. Give me your, if you have any, Dave, big preseason week three takeaways. A lot of teams sat their starters, but was there anything that really jumped out?

Let's see. Sam Darnold started for Carolina, played quite a while with the first-team offense. I thought he was really inconsistent, enough to make me nervous when I think about D.J. Moore. First of all, D.J. Moore, there were three plays that Carolina had 20 yards or closer to the goal line. He ran into the end zone once on those three plays. The other two were short routes. Most of his routes were short within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. Darnold missed a couple of times when his receivers were open. And I think about Terrace Marshall, who is a sleeper,

and I think about Christian McCaffrey, who's healthy. I'm worried about that offensive line. The story on Darnold has been that he's been inconsistent. I got nervous about DJ Moore, and I moved him closer to what his ADP is versus where I had him, which was like 10 spots higher. So one of my takeaways is Carolina's offense outside of McCaffrey and maybe Robbie Anderson might not be so amazing in terms of week-to-week starters. So why are you a little down on DJ Moore but not Robbie Anderson?

Just because you can get him later? I like the way that Robbie looked. He was running routes great. He was flashing speed. DJ wasn't. Well, I thought Moore had a pretty good game. He had a lot of targets. He didn't have a good average on those targets. I telling you he was running a bunch of shorter routes and he was getting locked up in man coverage quite a bit it's a preseason game i don't know how hard he was

really trying or anything like that and he's coming off of an injury that's a fair yeah but i i think that's probably more impactful about what he looked like this week not necessarily long term right but we also know that he hasn't been a red zone guy in the course of his career. And he was better last year on a per-game basis, or amongst his peers on a per-game basis in non-PPR than he was in PPR.

Alright, any other big things we'll get? It's really not so much a preseason week three show. This is a sleepers, breakouts, and bus thing, but if there's anything else that you guys really feel like you need to talk about, now's the time. we'll get into it again great to see courtland sutton out there uh looked look good uh there's a couple of um uh fantasy twitter doctors i thought he looked explosive coming off of his cuts which is uh nice to see um i i hope the san francisco quarterback rotation goes away quickly uh it's going to work though. It's the problem.

It might, it might. Levisca Chenault looks amazing. So that was fun to see. Trevor Lawrence looked good. I mean, obviously against backups, but you know,

Chenault is the best Jaguars receiver right now. The healthiest, that's for sure. The healthiest. Yeah. But I mean, he was, he was my favorite before DJ Shark got hurt,

and he's my favorite still. Sorry, but on Chennault, he's really, it seems like he's been sort of this short area safety valve for Trevor Lawrence. High volume Debo Samuel. He could rack up a lot of catches. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, cool. All right, anything else? Gardner's free. Gardner's free. You see this Kyle Pitts play?'s not trending on twitter yeah he took a he did it was a beautiful eight yard catch that he turned it to you knew that everybody would go crazy as soon as he made a play though in the preseason what'd you say the eagles yeah they tied on. All right. I'll give you one more. I thought the Steelers' offensive line did a good job in pass protection

for the second week in a row. I think it was either mostly their starting offensive line or entirely their starting offensive line. Right guard was a spot that I wasn't sure if Finney is a starter. But I thought they looked good for the second week in a row while Dwayne Haskins looked terrible. All right, Heath. Final thoughts?

I mean, it was the Panthers. The Panthers, actually, they have a pretty good pass rush. They could have a very good pass rush. Yeah, they didn't play with all their starters. Yeah. Man, Dwayne Haskins got some work to do. Okay, yeah, more takeaways. The Bills, I thought, were really interesting.

I mean, Gabriel Davis with a huge game. No Stefan Diggs. That throw was insane. Oh, God. Did I see someone like Devin Singletary played 15 of the first 17 snaps or something? It was all on the first drive. But didn't have a carry.

He didn't have a carry. I think he ran a ton around. Although the same thing almost happened last week against Chicago. They threw and threw and threw, but he was split out wide. He had a couple of catches. Zach Moss had a touchdown.

But I think somebody's going to have to be good in that offense other than Stephon Diggs. Who is it going to be? Is it going to be Gabriel Davis? We can talk about that a little bit later. All right. Let's get into our Twitter polls here. First about Gus Edwards.

I asked in a half PPR league, who is your favorite? Gus Edwards, Chase Edmonds, or Mike Davis? Why don't you guys answer first? Who's your favorite in half PPR? Gus Edwards, Chase Edmonds, Mike Davis. Gus. Davis.

Davis. Okay. Right now the winner, out of 1,100 votes, 47% to Gus Edwardswards 32 mike davis 21 chase edmonds so heath you are you are the mike davis guy you've said davis right i said mike davis i did i think i was the mike davis guy at some point i'm not sure if i am anymore he's right around running back 22 which i think is where everybody has at some point. I'm not sure if I am anymore. He's right around running back 22,

which I think is where everybody has him. I'm just, I'm not really sure that we should have any expectation that Gus Edwards has any bigger rushing role than Ingram or Dobbins did. And I think he's less likely to get like those 25 or 30 targets than they were in the passing game. So he's even more dependent on having a big touchdown total, and he hasn't really done that yet.

I still expect, like, I've got him projected for a bunch of touchdowns. I like him quite a bit more in non-PPR than full PPR, and in half, I'm just kind of wishy-washy. I've got him somewhere between 19th and 24th in the three formats. Okay, Dave, you also have Mike Davis. So, Jamie, you said Gus Edwards, and you would take Gus Edwards when? In half PPR, early fourth. Okay, so...

Non-late third. So he kind of where Daryl Henderson was going before the Sonny Michel trade? Yep. Okay, so does everybody have James Robinson ahead of Gus Edwards? I do. Yes. Sounds like I'm going gonna be the low guy on gus well chris doesn't have him in the top 60 so chris is probably the low guy

okay jamie make the case 60 overall yeah yeah i don't have him in my top 60 either you don't have a top you don't have him in the fifth round not in ppr nope i've got like 55 in ppr so i don't have him in the fifth round? Not in PPR. Nope. I've got like 55 in PPR, so I don't like... I mean, I'm not... In non, I've got him as a 3-4 turn. Yeah, he's just after 50th for me in non. I'm sorry. I just don't really understand what's so different about him in Dobbins. I mean, a little bit different. Yeah, he's not as good as Dobbins.

I had Dobbins in round four. But yeah, but to not have him in the... And when did you say you have Gus? There's no Dobbins now. Right, there's no Dobbins. And the backup is obviously not going to be as good. You know, Dobbins had to contend with Gus Edwards to a degree. Gus Edwards

doesn't. Yes, that's the difference is I don't think they're going to change the way they distribute touches. I think they're just going to have a second running back that gets 30% of the carries. But it's not going to be a second running back that's as good as Gus Edwards though. So that might mean that he's getting those type of touches. It might be. Tyson Williams has looked good in the preseason and I know the coaches like him uh he's kind of a running back like Gus Edwards and even if he's not as good

or as efficient as Gus Edwards he's still going to get work there's been 41 games that uh Lamar Jackson has started including the playoffs a Ravens running back has had 15 carries in 16 of those 41 games. How many of those games have been without one of Mark Ingram, J.K. Dobbins, or Gus Edwards? Sorry, two of Mark Ingram, Gus Edwards, or J.K. Dobbins? Zero, or maybe one here or there that I might have missed. To me, it's relevant. No, zero.

That's fine. They're still going to involve somebody else, and it might be somebody who's not on the team right now either. That's a different story. If they bring in somebody else, it changes everything. I'm sorry. That's what we know right now. I don't think the two youngsters that they have are going to be as impactful

as what Gus Edwards is going to be as a secondary guy to J.K. Dobbs. I broke this down actually on the bonus pod. Gus Edwards was the starter. We could just go back to 2018, those seven games that Lamar Jackson started. Gus Edwards was the starting running back, and he was on pace for 1,500 yards rushing. He was on pace for 279 carries. In seven games, he had 122 carries. But in those seven games, a second running back had at least seven carries in every single game.

Yeah, that's realistic. Right. But that's not as many as Gus Edwards was getting with Dobbins. So that's kind of the point I was making. It's like, yeah, Dobbins is a better player, but Edwards, I would think, would get a bigger percentage. They kept saying all season it's 1-1-A. I mean, they like both these guys.

All preseason. So Jamie sounds like you're buying that theory, but Heath, not as much? Well, I'm not saying that I don't think Gus Edwards is going to be a low-end number two running back. We're all 10 spots apart in where we're drafting him. I just don't think he's going to see a significantly bigger role than any other running back

has in Baltimore the last two years. I think he could probably average close to 15 carries. But in the last two years, there's been two significant guys there. There's not a second significant guy there now. Well, I don't think there was not. Oh, no, I guess Edwards was the significant guy. Well, of course, not yet.

I mean, if they bring somebody else in to change things, they can pick up Latavius Murray or trade for him. I don't think the two guys on the roster are going to take the same type of touches that Gus Edwards was taking away from J.K. Dobbins. What was it, like 11-9, what they averaged last year? Right. Something like that. So now it could be something like 13 and seven.

I would probably say it's more like 15 and six. Wow. That'll be 21 running back carries a game. They've done more than that each of the last three years. You know, I think it's good for Lamar. I think this is, I think this is a plus for Lamar Jackson.

I just don't know if it's enough to put them ahead of, for me, it would be Kyler Murray to put him in the three spot. It would be better if he had a healthy receiving core. Okay, so that's our Gus Edwards Twitter poll. Let's go to our Michael Pittman Twitter poll with T.Y. Hilton out indefinitely with a neck problem, a disc problem.

Could be... Let's hope he gets back soon, but you don't like to see that. Who's your favorite in full PPR? Corey Davis, Michael Pittman, or LaVisca Chennault? Corey Davis, Michael Pittman, LaVisca Chennault. Jamie, who do you got? Chennault. Heath? Chennault. Dave?

I'll say something different. LaVisca. Okay, well, he's in second place to everybody's favorite, Corey Davis, Michael Pittman. Way behind here. Kind of interesting. He's my third here, too. Yeah. Okay. Look, I'll just make the case. He's...

Corey Davis is probably the clear-cut number one. But Pittman's the clear-cut number one, right? For now. We don't know how long T.Y. Hilton's going to be out. I mean, I hope it's not long. I hope it's not

season ending. If it is, obviously that makes things a lot better for Pittman. I mean, their left tackle situation could be an absolute disaster. Who knows what's going to happen with Wentz if he's rushing back and re-injures his foot. I mean, I didn't move Pittman at all. No, me neither.

And he's not the clear-cut number one. I was just making the case. Because it doesn't necessarily fall on Pittman. He's not some proven guy. It could be Campbell. It could be Paschal. We don't know. It certainly helps him.

Yeah. Okay, so you didn't move Pittman. That means you guys would take Pittman before or after pick 100? After. After. After. Before 120? After. After. After. Before 120? Real close to, though.

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Again, stjude.org slash draftathon. It's 300 spots are available, but less than that now. But the tournament starts Monday night, so get on that. stjude.com slash draftathon. So your news and notes, Dobbins out for the season. How about Irv Smith?

Sorry, Jamie. He will miss the start of the season with knee surgery after knee surgery has a meniscus tear. What's your reaction here? Sucks. Sucks. You know, hopefully he's back soon. But, you know, he was top seven for me in non-PPR, top eight in PPR. And I'm still hopeful that he has the chance to finish the season strong. But it's a rough, rough situation. You know, who knows how long he's going to miss. So it's a rough situation.

Who knows how long he's going to miss. It's a boost for Adam Thielen. It's a boost for Justin Jefferson. We'll see if Conklin gets back and he's able to step in there. Hopefully Smith is back in the middle of the latter half of the season in 100%. Conklin is an interesting play in DFS for week one.

If your fantasy league has IR stuff, he's hurt. I don't know if he played or not. I got to check. an interesting play in DFS for week one. And if your fantasy league has IR spots, right? I don't know if he played or not. I got to check. No, he's hurt. He hasn't played. Zach Davidson week. Zach Davidson was an interesting prospect. I liked him when they drafted him. If you've got IR spots in your league, you can take Irv Smith with one of your last two or three picks and stash

him there and then pick somebody else up off the waiver wire after the season starts. It's kind of interesting. So refresh my memory here. If you're on short-term IR to start the season, you're out eight weeks, right? No. Six? No. Three, I think. Minimum of three. Oh, I'm thinking of... Pop less than six weeks.

So what's the eight weeks, the long-term IR? That's how it used to be, right? Right. Okay. Okay, so that's good because obviously for people in IR spots, you need to be, for a lot of fantasy leagues, people require to be actually on IR. So that seems likely to happen with Irv Smith.

Okay, three weeks. Sorry about that. Let's see. What else we got? T.Y. Hilton with the neck issue. What about this Deshaun Watson stuff, Dave? According to Yahoo, Miami is the frontrunner to acquire Deshaun Watson.

When I see it, I'll believe it. I'd be surprised. I'd be surprised if he plays this year. Is anybody drafting a Dolphins receiver or running back thinking, hey, they're going to get Deshaun Watson, or hey, they could get Deshaun Watson, let's bump them up? Nope. No? Okay. No's bump them up. Nope.

No? Okay. No, you shouldn't. But I'm still drafting Gaskin, Waddle, Fuller at the right value. Gasicki is an interesting early season tight end. Just a guy to start streaming with. Okay.

Right, but the question... That wasn't the question, but okay. No, I know it wasn't your question i'm just giving you a different answer i still like those guys i would like them more if deshaun watson magically appeared in miami and knew the playbook and had his timing down with everybody i don't need all that bill belichick what what what he's teasing us bill belichick? No. He was asked after the game,

have you made a decision on your quarterbacks yet? No. We still have a lot of decisions to make. I'm not sure any of these rookie quarterbacks have shown that they're ready. Trevor Lawrence looked pretty ready. Okay, Trevor Lawrence, if he had done it against the starters for the Cowboys, I wouldn't have taken it that seriously.

It's amazing how much better he played without the weight of Minshew on his shoulders. You got Minshew out of town, and Trevor Lawrence was just free to play football. Minshew might not have taken a dump yet, but maybe Trevor Lawrence did. Ryan Fitzpatrick will start for Washington. By the way, I don't think you guys have heard this soundbite

that somebody cut. Let's check this out. This is the greatest hits of Dave Richard. It should be. Honestly, it should be out by now, but I'm really backed up. I'd like a big ice cream sundae and a quiet hotel room for 12 hours. All right. Good stuff.

Rivas Patrick's named the starter. Don't know who's going to start week one for the Colts yet. Jamie mentioned their left tackle issues. Their left tackle, one of their preseason left tackle stores ACL. They're hoping to get Eric Fisher back. He's recovering from an Achilles issue. So torn Achilles last year. So left tackle could be a problem

spot for the Colts. Evan Ingram left with a calf injury on Sunday and calves are not good injuries two weeks out of the season out from the season. So we'll see. This is a little bit of a, I'm just going to call this a vague interpretation of Saquon. I'm going to say Saquon Barkley,

maybe on a snap count in week one. What am I basing this on? Just the giants beat writer for the post gave New York post gave injury predictions for Galladay. He thinks he'll be back. It's just predictions for Galladay. He thinks he'll be back. It's just predictions. For Kadarius Toney, he does not think he'll be back in week one. And for Barkley, I think his prediction was like

he might be limited in week one. So I think you should just be aware of that, that he might be limited to start the season. I think you are already aware of that, but we just haven't seen much. It's all speculation. No timetable for Tariq Cohen and boy, Damian Williams not

having a great preseason, it seems. He'll jar in the first game. You can only say that things have gotten better for Montgomery. Yes. Right? Yeah. It would help if that offensive line was at full strength. And the jets acquired defensive end Shaq Lawson from Houston for a sixth

round pick. All right. About time for our injuries, news and notes, unless you guys have any other, no, let's do it. Let's talk a little preseason football here.

Cause there were some interesting things. So some, some questions here, uh, Corlin Sutton looking good. Are you less enthusiastic about Jerry Judy now? No. And I'm super enthusiastic about Jerry Judy.

Although, you know, just looking at this game, he was basically operating as their slot receiver. So you could take that one of two ways that he's, you know, going to move around or, you know,

that they're going to, you know, maybe do some different things that we weren't expecting. Who was, by the way, Judy or Sutton? Judy. Judy was operants.

They had Tim Patrick and Sutton on the outside. So first time that everybody was there for them, their top three receivers, you know, with, with KJ Hamler working as the third, fourth, you know,

depending on how they're going to use those two guys in terms of Patrick and, and Hamler, they got a talented group. You know, that's the only thing I think you got to worry about is they're going to be enough volume because the quarterback decision, while I think it's going to benefit Judy and benefit Sutton,

it speaks more to Vic Fangio being very conservative because you look at the start of their season and it's two very winnable games in a row with the Giants and Jaguars. This is a team built to run the ball and built to play defense and not necessarily to open up the offense drew lock would have been the guy that you're gonna say is gonna open up the offense i know adam yes the giants they're gonna be the giant way to tell you that um so this is this is uh uh i think a little more conservative so you know just have to worry about you know where the targets will be distributed when there's you know that receiving core plus the tight end you know

hopefully no offense healthy dealing with that leg injury. So there's a lot of mouths to feed in this offense. Judy should be the best one. Should be. But it wouldn't surprise me if there's weeks where he's not the best one because Sutton's really good, Fant's really good, and Hamler and Tim Patrick will get their numbers too. Okay, so looking at NFC average draft position since August 20th, which value is better?

Jerry Judy 60th overall or Cortland Sutton 79th overall? Sutton. Sutton. I love both, and I love Judy, but the Sutton value is really good. I have it almost exactly that. Terrace Marshall had a really good preseason, guys. He did. What were you thinking, Heath? Well, I think it's important

to remember most of the time that he was having a really good preseason. DJ Moore and Robbie Anderson weren't playing. But he continued that in the final preseason game. I still think his upside is somewhere around what Curtis Samuel gave us without the rushing production, which if he scores a bunch of touchdowns, is good enough to be useful in

fantasy. If he doesn't, it's not really, he's a good pick in the double digit rounds. I wouldn't want to start in week one. Okay. Slot receivers are fun, man.

Yeah, they are. They sure are. Do you have any thoughts on the bills and Gabriel Davis and what we saw with the running backs? They play their starters for much of the first half. Any thoughts, guys? Anything to jump out at you with the running backs. They played their starters for much of the first half. Any thoughts, guys? Anything to jump out at you

with the Bills? It's going to be some good Gabriel Davis weeks. There's going to be some good Emmanuel Sanders weeks. There's going to be some good Cole Beasley weeks. There's going to be a lot of great

Stephon Diggs weeks. And you want to have Josh Allen on your fantasy team. Did Allen do enough to give you any thought to putting him at QB1 our projections have him at qb1 sports science projections have him as the number one quarterback in fantasy but no not for me no yeah i've i've gave it some thought earlier this offseason and then i did again after the past

couple weeks watching buffalo just throw it everywhere and my guess is that they're gonna do a lot of that i don't think there's to be a lot of games where Allen's attempting 25 passes. I think they're going to throw and throw and throw. I think the gap between my homes and Allen is not very big. Well, how about the gap between Josh Allen and, you know,

Dak Prescott? Is that very big? Well, the number five quarterback is, you know, I said so many times that I think everybody agreed you shouldn't take Josh Allen

two rounds ahead of QB five because they're all in the same tier. If you're thinking they're not anymore, then maybe the people were right. I still think they are. Okay. I actually thought the Chiefs game was interesting

you'd still take Lamar over I still would yeah I get it I thought the Chiefs game was interesting I just felt like if there's anything that would stop Kelsey and Tyreek Hill from being as incredible as they are in fantasy it's all the other guys on the team Mahomes really spreading

it around in this game little bit of Robinson little bit of Hardman McKinnon I don't know I'm not reacting really spreading it around in this game. A little bit of Robinson, a little bit of Hardman, McKinnon. I don't know. I'm not reacting really to it. Are you? No. Okay.

Good. Ronald Jones started. Leonard Fournette had a catch. Fournette started last week. It is what it is. What about the Texans running backs? I know we're not super interested, but is Ingram ahead of Lindsey for you guys now?

No. I'm going to wait to see what happens after the final cuts. And then if they all three make the roster, I would take Mark Ingram over Lindsey. Oh, God. I just had this horror thought. Ingram gets cut, and the Ravens sign him. They should.

Oh, that would be so bad for fantasy. I was really thinking the Ravens might sign Adrian Peterson, but he can't run out of the shotgun. Okay. Marking him going back there would make a ton of sense. It would. But they've benched him before. Well, they benched him when they had Dobbins and Edwards.

They don't have Dobbins. He'd be a good compliment to Gus Edwards because he knows the team. Heath, Melvin Gordon looked good. I know it was against Rams backups when he had five carries for 35 yards. He had a catch. Javante Williams didn't play. But right from the gate, you were saying, hey, Melvin Gordon, it's not like Javante Williams coming in

and replacing some scrubs. This was the first we saw of Gordon, I think, this preseason. And he played well. Yeah, it was good to see that he's healthy. And I anticipate kind of what I did at the beginning of training camp, that Melvin Gordon will start the season as the 60-40 favorite in a committee, and unless there's an injury, Javante Williams doesn't have much more upside

than having a 60-40 advantage on Melvin Gordon. I don't think he's going to just completely take Melvin Gordon off the field unless Gordon gets hurt. Is that how you feel about the 49ers? Because Mostert came out and he started and he was himself on the first drive. And Sermon had his moments too. But do you think it looks the same way, like 60-40 Mostert? Yeah, but that's a different situation because it's the 49ers.

I feel much more confident they're going to generate five yards per carry backs and score a bunch of running back touchdowns. So I would be more interested, I think, in those guys if it stays in that situation. But they're all four right in that same number three running back range. Anything I missed?

Anything I missed? The Jets and the Eagles tied. I love the games where none of the starters play. They're my favorite games. It's so awesome. It's awesome or awful? Both. It's just like, oh, don't have to really waste my time on this.

The Giants really were horrible. In fact, Jamie, you said, are you seriously going to move Saquon Barkley down? Oh, yeah, I did. I mean, you know, I've said all along that I was, you know, close with several players with him, you know? And so, as opposed to being right in the middle

of the first round, now he's back in the first round. I noticed for, I think, the first time on RADP, he's fallen to 14th overall. So he is firmly second round Saquon. Who'd you move him behind,ie um i'm in the process of doing it uh now so just in uh non-ppr so i moved him behind nick chubb and jonathan taylor and then in ppr he'll be behind and aaron jones i'm sorry i'd done that earlier in the day um

and then in ppr he's behind jones and eckler are who's close to putting Antonio Gibson ahead of him? No. I'm close. Really close. I don't think I have Gibson ahead of him, but no, I'm not. I mean, they're in the same range for me. What about Mixon? Do you have Mixon ahead of Saquon? I do, yeah. Najee?

No. Najee and Gibson are basically just tied to each other, and they can only move ahead of or behind the other one and no other players. Tyreek? They're like a potato sack race. Oh, yeah. I've had Tyreek well out of them.

I've got Diggs and Hopkins and A.J. Brown and Calvin Ridley out of them. Yeah. A.J. Brown. And full PPR. Yeah, I might get cold feet on Saquon, too. It's not really anything to do with a little to do with him, obviously. The fact that he's not at 100%, but the rest of that team just looks so awful. That interception in the end zone was so unprofessional.

How do you do that? All right, so let's do sleepers, breakouts, and busts. I asked you guys for your favorite three. I'm surprised you're not hyping up the touchdown at the end of the half. Against the backups. Yeah, once the Patriots backups came in, the Giants starters all of a sudden looked pretty good. Jamie, sleepers, Dave, sleepers, Heath, sleepers. I want your favorite

three and three breakouts and three busts. Jamie, you get to go first. Give me three sleepers. Jacoby Myers. Love the setup for him as whoever's favorite wide receiver there for the Patriots. It's a great situation based on what he did last year when Julian Edelman was hurt, basically the second half of the season as he stepped up and was Cam Newton's go-to guy then.

And I think he's going to be Cam Newton or Mac Jones' go-to guy now. I still want to see what happens when all the tight ends are there, but just excited about the setup for him. Hopefully he scores his first NFL touchdown. I'll go Darnell Mooney also. You know, I think we're going to see a fun season from him in his second year based on what he did at the end of last season. No Anthony Miller,

no real third receiver to speak of. I think we're going to see, you know, Justin Fields or Andy Dalton, another, you know, up and down quarterback situation, but I think Mooney's in a good spot, um, heading into his sophomore season.

And then third one, let's go Roethlisberger. Uh, you know, I, I think Dave said it, you know, offensive line, I think is, is look good, um, for what they, uh, have shown us. Uh, certainly the game Roethlisberger played against the lions. I thought he looked spry in that game was moving around. Well, we love the receivers, uh, love the running game. And so Roethlisberger has got a ton of weapons around him so if you are so inclined to wait on quarterbacks he's going to be a great one quarterback league option for you if you go deep

but in two quarterback and super flex leagues he's got very high upside there as a strong starter how would you feel about starting in week one at Buffalo Jamie it's a little concerning you know just knowing that defense but but I think I'm starting already to think starts it for week one, and he was one of the names that I'm struggling with because he typically plays well in week one when he's right, and I think he's going to have a decent game. I think there's going to be

a shootout. Despite those two defenses, I think that game's going to go back and forth. He's got Vegas and Cincinnati after that. If you can handle that first game, then he's a quarterback you can literally wait until your third to last pick, second to last pick, maybe even your last pick in a one quarterback league.

He's your streamer to begin the year. If you go any of the rookie quarterbacks, and that includes Lawrence, he's a good guy to pair them with in a one quarterback. There it is. There's a nice late round quarterback two-pack strategy for everybody. Jamie, I'm working on your start of the week.

Right now, I'm leaning James Robinson at Houston. That'll be my start of the week probably for 17 weeks. At Houston. I guess he's too high-end. Dalvin Cook at Cincinnati. There we go. Maybe Trevor Lawrence. Maybe Trevor Lawrence. Maybe Trevor Lawrence. Sam Darnold at the bench game. I think LaVis Trevor Lawrence. Maybe Trevor Lawrence. Maybe Trevor Lawrence. Sam Darnold.

I think LaVisca is probably the, yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one for week one. Okay. Let's see. San Francisco at Detroit. Yeah. I will say this, though.

After Dobbins got hurt, I'm starting to feel a little bit of a mush because I spoke to Cam Akers. He got hurt. I featured Dobbins and Akers in that story in the magazine. You saw the result there. Get off the podcast. You liked Blake Jarwin last year. You like Irv Smith this year. It's true.

Yeah, but liking somebody and they get hurt is different. Like I've actually spoken to these people. Right. Jamie, I'm blocking you on my cell phone. Yeah, we got Chris Dobbins going up on the show this week. That's it. Sink them in the rankings. Alright, Dave, give me your three favorite sleepers.

My three favorite sleepers. I'm going to start with a guy that I never thought I'd ever call a sleeper, but at this point I am, and that's Sonny Michel. The fact that his ADP is in round 10, and he's got a chance to be the 1B running back to begin the year for the Rams. It's a good offense to be in. We know Daryl Anderson has had some good moments, but he's also been beat up and injury prone and the coaching staff may not like him that much.

I think that Michelle could get a total fresh start in LA. And I love the idea of getting him. I'll take him in round nine and just start the season with him on my bench. And hopefully he can figure out a way to stay healthy. He could be a guy that gives me five or six really good weeks in the beginning of the season. I'm a big fan of Elijah Moore as well. I think that Moore is going to end up being the best wide receiver fantasy-wise in New York with the Jets. I just think he's a better fit with Zach Wilson's game than with Corey Davis. I know we've seen Corey Davis. We haven't seen Elijah Moore. I know Elijah Moore is an ad a hundred percent, but he's been practicing.

I'm excited about him. And I, another guy that we haven't seen, but I know we're always looking for tight ends late. And I was excited about him last year. He started off last season, great in Tennessee. Then he signed for a ton of money in new England.

And it's Johnny. I think Johnny will play more of a receiver role than a tight end role for the Patriots. I expect Mac Jones to not be necessarily the starting quarterback in week one, but sooner than later, he'll be the guy. And when that happens, this whole offense will change and be better for fantasy. And Janu will be one of those guys

that can help you out. I was reading Pro Football Doc last night when Dobbins got hurt. Dr. Chow, who we had on a couple years ago, he has a write-up on Sonny Michel, and I guess it's easy to forget. Sonny Michel has a history of right knee arthritis. So Dr. Chow doesn't necessarily think that he's got a big workload in him.

So just something to keep in mind. It makes sense. I mean, he doesn't have to have a big workload if Henderson is healthy. The concern would be what happens if Henderson gets hurt or misses time. He's the second guy, but it's not like he's far off from the first guy. Then why would you spend the draft

capital on Henderson? It's the Rams. They don't even think draft capital is real. They just throw draft capital. I'm talking about fantasy draft capital. I'm not talking about... Of course, yeah. I mean, they go to... If you don't believe in Darryl Henderson, then you take

Sonny Michel. But if you believe in Darryl Henderson, then he's worth a round four or five pick. Do the Rams believe in Darryl Henderson? I think they have to. I don't know if they necessarily want to. We got three wide receivers so far. Jamie said Jacoby Myers and Darnell Mooney. Dave said Elijah Moore.

Who's the best of the three? Jacoby. Jacoby and PPR for sure. And what about if I throw Marquez Calloway in there? I'd go Jacoby and PPR, Calloway none. I'd go Jacoby definitely in PPR. And Jacoby in half. Yeah, thank you, Jamie. Jacoby definitely in PPR and Jacoby in half yeah thank you Jacoby in half

yeah I agree I agree with Callaway and non Callaway might score more touchdowns in the six games that Michael Thomas misses than Meyer scores all season right what about passing touchdowns though that's true there might be a passing touchdown or two especially if both Cam and

Mac Jones think okay Heath how about you any thoughts are we late enough in August true there might be a passing touchdown or two especially if both cam and mac jones think okay heath how about you and any any thoughts are we late enough in august oh i thought you were going to be for my sleepers yeah we are right after but you didn't weigh in callaway versus myers uh it's jacoby myers for me again the whole callaway thing i just struggle with because i think he's an iffy proposition for the first month of the season. And I think he's probably irrelevant after that. The only thing I think about Callaway is there is now a quarterback that's going to throw downfield more. Yeah.

And so that will certainly help any of these. I wonder if, obviously, prime Drew Brees or this iteration of Jameis, whatever he may become, what would that have done for Ted Ginn? What it still may do for Traequan? You know, some of these guys that were just downfield threats that maybe never got those type of opportunities to those type of throws. And Sean Payton's offense was garnered toward this.

You know, not necessarily taking all these shots down the field as well. You know, they're more of a middle of the field, take their shots in the seam type of team. But like what you saw from Jameis against the Jaguars, like those were some outside shots that they were taking to Callaway. And that's what you think you'll see maybe a little bit more from him, but I'm with you.

It could be, you know, flash and pan, but I still think though, there's, there's an opportunity now clearly with Thomas out. Like if you say tomorrow, Thomas is back in week four,

I would much, much prefer Jacoby Myers across the board without a doubt. I know Callaway has obviously had a great preseason. I don't know how much this matters because he's not exactly your, your number one headline receiver, but if he does get that kind of treatment, I kind of hate Callaway's schedule green Bay. Could they stick Jair Alexander on him?

I wouldn't think so, but it's not out of the question. I think they absolutely could. At Carolina, at New England, Giants, at Washington. All five of those teams finished no worse than 11th against wide receivers. Four of them, and maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm missing Carolina, maybe they have one too, but four of them, to me, have a really good number one cornerback. Again, I don't maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm missing Carolina. Maybe they have one too, but four of them to me have a really good number one cornerback.

Again, I don't know that that matters. I'm not sure Marquez Calloway is getting shadowed, but it's a strike against him, I suppose. All right. It's fair point. Fair point.

I still, I was still drafting him, but this is really the first time I did the schedule analysis. Hey, Heath, how's your sleeper list looking? Top three. Hey, thanks for asking, Adam.

What I was going to ask was, are we far enough into draft season to where if I say somebody, we're not going to say he's not a sleeper, he's not actually going to go that late, even if his ADP is in round 10? No, I think I trust ADP now. Okay. And Jamie's already mentioned him,

but Loviska Schnoltz still has a round 10 adp so it's it's funny you mentioned that because you know i just did my last round of sleepers breakouts and busts and i was like i was gonna put him in the breakouts column because i didn't think he was he belongs in the sleeper list so it he's in that gray area so you know it just like i think that the the casual fantasy player would say that's a great call i think that the casual fantasy player would say, Oh, that's a great call. I think the, the, the, the skilled fantasy player is going to say,

Hey, that's crazy. Yeah. He's right. But I mean, we're, we're talking to everybody here and he has a current round 10 ADP and he was on our best values on Yahoo and ESPN show last week because he has a

round 13 ADP on Yahoo. Wow. So I understand that definitely I should not put on Twitter that LaVisca Chenault is a sleeper, but he's also a receiver who had 600 receiving yards last year, and

I think he's got a chance to maybe catch 90 passes. They can't protect Trevor Lawrence very well. He does everything close to the line of scrimmage. And when we were talking about him last year coming in, we were talking about how he's built like a running back. He's one of those Debo Samuel type guys who could have a monster yards after catching.

It wouldn't be that surprising. He is easily my favorite Jacksonville wide receiver, and he's moving up in my number three wide receiver rankings. All right, give me two more sleepers. I will also go with Justin Fields. Jamie mentioned the veteran quarterback you would take if you were taking a rookie quarterback. Justin Fields

is still being drafted super late, of course, in most drafts, and he might not start until week three or week four. I've kind of assumed it would be after the Rams game, but then when you look at the schedule and see the Bengals are next, maybe they give Andy Dalton the start against the Bengals just because it's the old team. But even start of the week,

I started the week for sure coming off the Rams game. He's going to look beautiful. I hope Andy just survives. But even still, if he starts week four or week five, I think this guy is, was an elite accurate passer and didn't have quite the rushing stats that you might think,

Oh, he's going to be great running, but he's shown us in the preseason. He's one of the fastest quarterback prospects in terms of 40 time. And he runs dudes over in the red zone. He could be absolutely out of this world, both as a runner and a passer. I honestly think fields has top five upside once he starts starting.

I made the switch after the stupid 49ers thing tonight. Fields over Lance. That's interesting. And Heath, third one? Third one, I will go with Team Geo. Giovanni Bernard. This team threw 117 passes to their running backs last year, despite the fact their running backs couldn't

catch. Then Tom Brady and Bruce Arians went out and hand-selected Giovanni Bernard to play that role. I don't think he's going to get the 120-plus targets that James White used to get, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets close to 100. I really think he could be a top-20 PPR running back this year.

I've seen some people suggesting that one, they're so good they may not get many third down situations because their offense is just going to throttle people. Has the preseason bothered you at all? Because it's bothered me a little bit. Bruce Aarons comes out and hypes them up and then nothing. And it's not like

we're seeing it. You know what I mean? I thought we were seeing it. He's been on the field on third down. I mean, you can put a practice dummy on the field if he's not getting attention. It doesn't matter. They barely play their starters, though. Yeah, it doesn't worry me at all.

That drive, though. It doesn't worry me because his ADP hasn't moved. Oh, yeah, he's a free space. And he's the one you should wait out, for sure. The one that culminated in the Godwin touchdown, their second drive of the game. It's just like, who's stopping them.

And I know, I mean, obviously it's, well, they stopped themselves on the first drive. Like Bruce Arians was pissed with the first drive, right? They were horrible.

And then they just, I look at any team playing backups, whatever, but Holy cow, they're just so loaded. It's pick your poison. Uh, all right.

And we'll go to breakouts next. By the way, Chenault over Jacoby Myers? Yes. Yes. No. No. Chenault or Kenny Galladay? Galladay. I'm close. Definitely Galladay and non-PPR. No question.

Full? I'm going to do it. Yeah, PPR, I'm going to take it all over, Galvin. I'm in. I'm in. Let's do it. All right. All right.

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Click before you dig. Ensure your next project is safe. Visit OntarioOneCall.ca. It's free, it's easy, it's the law. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. We are back. Dave, you get to start. Your three favorite breakouts. My three, well, Jerry Judy's got to be one of them. And I just love the way that he has continued to look this preseason after.

Look, the numbers weren't great in his rookie year and the drops were ugly in his rookie year. And the passes flying over his head or dart the drops were ugly in his rookie year and the passes flying over his head or darting into the yard in front of him i still think he's a really talented receiver and i think having bridgewater there is going to be good for him i think he's going to get you over a thousand yards i think he can get you seven touchdowns i think he can get you at least 80 catches and i think that that's the floor i think the ceiling is top 12 receiver. I'm super excited about Jerry duty. I think he'd have a big year. I've been talking up TJ Hawkinson like crazy. I'm going to continue to talk up TJ Hawkinson like crazy because this is the Alliance

team. That's going to trail a lot. Jared Goff doesn't like to throw downfield. He's talked about how tight ends are a big part of his offense. And I think he's going to lead the lines and targets and catches receiving yards and receiving touchdowns. I think he's going to basically be their number one receiver and Robert Woods getting Matthew Stafford. That's an upgrade for him. Having the run game of Henderson and Michelle. I don't know how often that's going to be how the Rams roll. I think they're going to throw a little more than they have in the past. I think Woods is their best all around receiver. We've seen him top 90 catches and

1,000 yards, maybe close to 1,200 total yards. He's never had more than six touchdowns in a year. I say he breaks all those numbers, and he has a career best season in LA. Jerry Judy is like DJ Moore. It's the conundrum. It's the same

thing. It's like you love the talent. More, obviously, is much more proven. But you're worried about maybe the targets and the quarterback play. But they're only separated by 12 picks in ADP. I'm just wondering if Judy is going too high now. It's 60th overall. This was a guy we used to take 80-something overall.

Now it's 60. I'm looking at CBS ADP. It says 74.6. it's 60. I'm looking at CBS ADP. It says 74.6. I'm looking at NFC. Look, I'd be happy to take him at 60. I'm probably going to end up taking him ahead of everybody here. You draft him ahead of me? First player I'm

nominating during our cellular cap draft. Do it. Look, it doesn't mean that I'm going to overspend for him. I hate wide receivers this year. I hate them a lot. Because they're all on the same team. It's like there's 30 good wide receivers on 10 freaking NFL teams.

I just hate it. All right, Heath, your breakouts. I think I might as well go down with the ship and say it one more time, right? Gardner mid-shoe. No, DeAndre Swift. All right. I've been in multiple drafts this week, this weekend,

and DeAndre Swift's there basically at the middle to end of the fourth round in all the drafts now. Oh, really? You got to feel good about that. I do. I still think, like, there's certainly risk. But if we're talking about breakouts, we're talking about upside.

And DeAndre Swift has all the upside in the world. He's a fantastic talent, nearly a first-round pick. He scored 10 touchdowns on 160 touches last year on a terrible offense, or at least a bad offense. Averaged 4.6 yards per carry when no one else on the team averaged even 4 yards per carry. And now he's got a head coach and a coordinator that both have this intention of using him

in a super valuable role. DeAndre Swift has top five upside if he plays all 17 games. Okay, breakout number two? I'm going to say A.J. Brown. And it's because I think he could legitimately be the number one wide receiver in fantasy. We saw with Tyreek Hill, his first year in the NFL, he had 83 targets. The next year he had 105 targets. And in those two years, he was incredibly efficient, much like AJ Brown has been. Year three was when he saw that big jump, 137 targets. He

gave us 1,479 yards and 12 touchdowns. That's about the same type of thing I expect from A.J. Brown this year. So where do you have Brown in your wide receiver rankings? Three or four, depending on the format. Wow, so is that ahead of Hopkins? It's ahead of everybody but Tyreek Hill and Devontae Adams and non-PPR, and I've got Hopkins one spot ahead of him

and PPR ahead of Diggs. Okay, ahead of Diggs. Okay. Is that exciting? Is he a breakout if he does that? Yes, he would be a breakout. Okay, DeAndre Swift, AJ Brown, and? I'll stick with Noah Fant. I think he has a chance

to be a top five tight end in a way that you're actually excited about. I expect him to get 90 to 110 targets this year. I think he'll be used more in the red zone. They've talked about how they're kind of figuring out how to use Noah Fant and moving him more pre-snap. He has been very good after the catch

and kind of gets those downfield targets as well. I'm just going to say that Heath and Dave have given six breakouts combined and four of them are on the Lions and the Broncos. So that's interesting. It's a little risky, right? You better pick some good teams, Jamie. Jamie, Chris Godwin.

Who are your breakouts, top three? Patrick Mahomes. Boom. I think he's going to have a great year. I'm going to go with Myles Gaskin. I think he's going to build a great year I'm going to go with Myles Gaskin I think he's going to build off what he did last year I feel

hopeful for people that drafted him after the first preseason game because you got him at a discount but I think you've heard me say this before we love the extrapolation game had he played 16 games based on what he did in his 10 games he would have had over 800 rushing yards and over 600 receiving yards. Only one other guy did that last year, and that was Alvin Kamara.

So, you know, if he's in that range or close to whatever Alvin Kamara can do in terms of his rushing production and his receiving production, but anything close to 1,500 total yards is pretty impressive. So Gaskin would be one. I'll stay with the Dolphins and go Jalen Waddle. I think he's going to be Miami's best receiver. And I think he's going to push to be a top 30 receiver. I don't know if there'll be much higher than that because there's going to be

obviously a lot of Will Fuller and Devante Parker moments. But if those guys miss any extended period of time, I love the fact that they've been so creative in moving him around. If he stays healthy, I think he's going to be to his best receiver. And I think he's going to have a big season. Dave stole my tight end of TJ Hawkinson. Do you want me to give you?

I'll give you one. And so I'll go back to Terry McCorn. I think he's just going to have a fantastic season with Ryan Fitzpatrick. I know we haven't seen it yet in the preseason, but I don't care. I want to see four quarters of Fitzpatrick and McLaurin. And what a stupid, stupid report that they had to announce that Fitzpatrick was the starting quarterback. No bleep.

He's the starter, and he's going to love Terry McLaurin this year. I don't know. I thought Taylor Heineke might have had a chance. I left a breakout for you, Jamie. I thought you'd say Damian Harris. Yeah, I like Damian Harris. I mean, you know. If you don't want to say he's a breakout, I'll give a fourth breakout. If you I like Damian Harris. I mean, you know. If you don't want to say he's a breakout, I'll give a fourth breakout.

If you want to continue to go, I mean, I wrote about all these guys on the site, so, you know, there's plenty to read about breakouts. We have a lot more than nine breakouts, so just go to cbssports.com slash fantasy and check out all the sleepers, breakouts, and busts, which brings us to the busts. And Heath, you're up first. Give me your three busts.

I wasn't expecting you to go first. Sorry. I don't ever go first in these things. I did. Yeah, well, I mean... I still think... I'll just say the same thing I said on HQ last week. I still think, as good as he looked, and as much as we may think the gap is narrowing, Josh Allen in round two in CBS drafts

when Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson are around in round five is a bad investment. And it's the same reasoning that we gave you for Patrick Mahomes and for Lamar Jackson. Even with him looking so good in the preseason, the most likely outcome is that Josh Allen is going to regress a little bit from last year.

But what if that's round two for Mahomes and round four for Allen? Is he a bust then? Are two of those top five quarterbacks going in round six or seven now? And then Lamar Jackson's in round – My problem is he's three rounds ahead of those guys. Then Lamar Jackson's in – or whoever's third is in late round five. Early round four versus late round five no i don't think he should be going around and a half ahead of lamar at all i don't think he should go around to that round and a half ahead of deck really here's adp on cbs right now mahomes 11th josh allen 18th kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, and Aaron Rodgers are 36th through 39th.

So that's 18 to 20 picks after Josh Allen. Russell Wilson is 50th. Dak Prescott is 52nd. Dak Prescott is QB8, I think. So, yeah. All right. Understood. Two more, Heath? Yeah. eight i think um so yeah all right understood uh two more heath yeah i i also want to say that i think like this is the best year i can remember at this point in terms of adp it's hard for me to find guys in the first three or four rounds that i think are going way earlier than they should be okay Okay. Well,

Clyde necessarily been the case in the past. If there's anyone for you, Clyde Edwards, he layers probably the guy, right? It 20, but even that, like he's going,

his average ADP right now is 27.5 early in the third, third round. I think that it's a mistake to take him over some of the guys that he's going in front of. I'd rather have Chris Carson. I think there's a pretty big risk. I think you're leading me into wanting to say Clyde's a bust, so I'll just do it. No, that's all right. You don't have to. I was trying to help you. No, I'm going to say, I

don't think that running back role in Kansas City, when Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback, is the same as the traditional Andy Reid running back role. The target share has not been the same. The touchdown upside has not been the same. And I think when you're taking Clyde at the 2-3 turn, because

of the risk that he has, you need to see some top five upside there. I'm not sure that exists with Patrick Mahomes as the quarterback. Okay. Got a third one? Yeah, and it's a guy that I draft a lot, but somebody else said this last week, and I'll say it now. Josh Jacobs

at the 3-4 turn is not a good idea either. I draft him a lot in round 5 and feel pretty good about that, but he's now 36th if you just look at the order of the players being drafted. And I've seen him in the two drafts where I was talking about getting DeAndre Swift in round 4, Josh Jacobs has gone ahead

of him. I think Jacobs is one of those guys in that Mike Davis Miles Gaskin range and those guys are usually there in round five. So there's no reason to reach for Jacobs or for Miles Sanders, for that matter, at the 3-4 turn. Okay, so Josh Allen, CEH, and Josh Jacobs based on their ADP, and you should go to the CBS Sports. Just go to cbssports.com slash fantasy and check out the draft averages.

Jamie, three busts. Aaron Rodgers on our ADP is still going as a top five quarterback. dot com slash fantasy and check out the draft averages. Jamie, three busts. Aaron Rogers on our ADP is still going as a top five quarterback. I still think he's a top ten guy, but that's why I would rank him as ten. I think him going ahead of Dak, ahead of Russell Wilson, that's a mistake.

I think Rogers will still be very good, but he was basically 23 fantasy points or less the three previous years prior to last year. So if he's anything close to that, you're going to regret taking him as a top five quarterback. Even though, again, I think he's still going to be a very good number one QB, but not anything close to what he did last year. He took one of the running backs, I think, that everybody calls a bust.

I'll take the other one, which is Miles Sanders. Just concerning what we've seen in the preseason, the reports, I actually just drafted him in a Keeper League draft today, but it was as my third running back. So if I get him as a third, I'm thrilled with that. But taking him as a starter makes me a little bit nervous. So he's at 48th overall. Yeah, I don't think he's a round four player.

He's obviously sliding. So if you're going to call a bust after this, you probably missed your window because I think round five is probably about the spot he should start to be considered. But, you know, anything in the first four rounds, I think, is a potential mistake. And then, let's see, the third one, I'll go Mike Evans. You know, this is one where, you know, I think our ADP is fairly good, where he's been going.

You know, late round four, he's starting to trend up a little bit. But we've said this a lot. You know, the mouths to feed in this offense are. There's a lot. It's robust. And, you know, is he going to have the same level of production that we've seen in the last year alone? You know, 13 touchdowns is hard to replicate. You bring back O.J. Howard.

You bring in Giovanni Bernard. You keep Antonio Brown. There's still Chris Godwin, who's in a contract here. If Mike Evans goes south of eight touchdowns and barely creeps over 1,000 yards again, the reason I say eight touchdowns, that's what he did to the previous two years, and is still a 70-catch guy,

that's hard to justify in PPR as a top-15 caliber wide receiver. Even though our ADP reflects that he's a little lower than other places, he's still a top 15 wide receiver did you would you take dj more or mike evans i'd still take dj more in ppr i know that probably sounds strange but in ppr i think he's gonna be better yeah i dig more in both okay dave three busts he already got a sense i'm nervous about daryl henderson and his adp is right around round five now i think that fair. I'm just not willing to take him quite at that spot. I'd prefer to go around

later. I just don't think I'm ever going to get them. The injuries, the lack of experience playing on third down, the fact that there's going to be a split there, the fact that I think they're going to throw a lot just makes me nervous to trust Daryl Henderson in that same type of range as Davis, Gaskin, a lot of the other running backs that we've talked about that we like. Zach Moss is another one. I think that the light's kind of gone out on him. And the fact that he's going in round 10, I still don't like that. I still think that that's too high. I've moved him way down. I'm basically at a point where I'm not drafting Zach Moss. DJ Chark is at 89.6. I think

that's a little high. We've talked about LaVisca and how good he'll be. The real value at wide receiver in Jacksonville is going to be Marvin Jones. The fact that you can get him in round 10, he might end up giving the best return on investment in drafts. Better than LaVisca, better than Chark. I think he's already proven to have his timing down with Trevor Lawrence. Once he's out there playing, you'll see. He'll be good. Good guy to draft and put on your bench to begin the season. Or maybe your flex if you start three receivers.

And you might be starting him as a number three receiver by the midpoint of the year. He's finished as a top 30 or better PPR receiver on a per game basis each of the last four years. Okay. That's Marvin Jones. So let's do a, just going to do a quick recap here. Jamie sleepers were Jacoby Myers, Darnell Mooney,

and Ben Roethlisberger. Dave's were Sony, Michelle, Elijah Moore, and Johnny Smith. Heath's were LaVisca Chanel, Justin Fields, and Giovanni Bernard.

Breakouts. Dave had Jerry Judy, TJ Hawkinson, and Robert Woods. Heath had DeAndre Swift, AJ Brown, and Noah Fant. Jamie had Miles Gaskin, Jalen Waddle, Go Dolphins, and Terry McLaurin. Busts.

Josh Allen for Heath, Clyde Edwards, Elair, Josh Jacobs. Remember, it's all based on ADP. It's not based on they're going to be bad or they suck at football. It's based on ADP. Jamie's bust for Aaron Rodgers. Jamie or they suck at football. It's based on ADP. Jamie's bust for Aaron Rodgers. Jamie said he sucks at football. Miles Sanders and Mike Evans.

And Dave's were Daryl Henderson, Zach Moss, and DJ Chark. Okay, good show, guys. I was planning on reading emails. I'll make some time for them on tomorrow's show. We're going to be talking about players that we draft a lot and players that we typically avoid, kind of the do not draft list. I know that's kind of a trendy, popular topic in fantasy circles. We're going to also try to make some time for the fantasy cops on tomorrow's show.

We will talk to you then for Jamie and Heath and Dave. I am Adam. Have a great day, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football.