Fantasy Football Today - Five Big Topics! D.J. Moore, J.K. Dobbins, Streaming QBs and DSTs (11/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 23, 2020

It's a triumphant Monday. morning for young Ben Schragger! Find out about his amazing Fantasy Football victory. Then we'll give you a couple of QB news items (3:45) and recap the Chiefs-Raiders game (5:30). Should Fantasy managers be starting Derek Carr and Nelson Agholor? What do we make of CEH going forward? ... Starting our Five Big Topics with our thoughts on Michael Pittman (12:32) and D.J. Moore (15:33). Are these WRs going to be difficult to project on a weekly basis? And how about J.K. Dobbins (21:30)!? What do we expect from him going forward? We give you some numbers to consider ... You may need to stream QBs (26:40) or DSTs (32:30) rest of season. Which QBs can you turn to? And what should your DST strategy be? Start good defenses in bad matchups or bad defenses with great matchups? ... Email us at [e-mail] You can also download and subscribe to the full-length Fantasy Football Today podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-podcast/id261735167 Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. So at the end of the day in PPR Leagues, Travis Kelsey outscored Taysom Hill by two points. So if you started Kelsey over Hill, you made the right decision. Welcome, everybody. Welcome to a Monday show.

Going a little early today. It's about 10.30 in the morning as we record this, so we don't have a ton of injury news for you. But we're going to recap Kansas City and Las Vegas and give you five big topics. Adam Azer with, I'm guessing, a pretty happy Chris Towers. I mean, why not be happy right now? But not as happy as Ben Schrager. Ben is triumphant today. He is on cloud nine. What's going on, Ben? Why are you so happy today? I had the greatest fantasy victory of my whole fantasy career last night. I was down by 11

with Travis Kelsey and I was going up against Derek Carr. This was with 30 seconds left in the game. Kelsey scores the touchdown. I'm ecstatic, but I'm still losing. Next thing you know, Derek Carr gets the ball back, throws the pick. Negative two points. I win by one. The greatest victory of all time. No one

cares about my fantasy team, but that's why I'm happy. Chris cares. That's why I'm happy. Chris cares. That's why I'm happy. Don't you care, Chris? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. We all care. Schrager, Jagger.

Good stuff. That's a lot of fun. Winning by one on a garbage interception. I just want to point out. Yeah. I defeated Adam Azer. Oh my gosh. 2QB League?

Yeah. I don't know how I'm going to win with Baker Mayfield as a quarterback. Well, in fairness, the rest of your team also stunk. It was not a good week. Christian McCaffrey didn't play. Yeah, it wasn't a good week. I still have Godwin.

Did you officially defeat me? Because I still have Gronkowski, Godwin, and Goff. I mean, I'm an 81% defeat. All right, it's not over. We get a high-scoring game tonight, and we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. All right, listen. We got a props game for you.

I'll tell you about that in a second. Let me preview what's coming up on the show today. Is DJ Moore back to being a number one? Is Michael Pittman a must-start? What's J.K. Dobbins' season looking like? Quarterbacks to stream if you lost Joe Burrow, and DST streaming advice. But tonight, who's going to have the most total yards?

If you want to predict this, obviously not the quarterbacks, but other than them, cbssports.com slash props. We're giving away $1,000 every week for Monday Night Football props. Answer seven prop questions, including which player will have the most total yards. And last week we told you that definitely Nick Foles

was going to throw for more yards than Kirk Cousins. So keep that in mind. But having said that, who's going to have the most total yards tonight, guys? Having said that, I'll give Cooper Cup, so everyone should go pick Robert Woods in this. But yeah, I think Cooper Cup has a great game. I don't think any of them go over 80 total yards.

I think Cooper Cup wins it right around 78 total yards. I'm going to go with Ronald Jones. Ronald Jones, eh? Yeah. All right. Are you sleepy today, Chris? You just chill. A little bit sleepy, Adam. Yeah. Alright. Are you sleepy today, Chris? You just chill. A little bit sleepy, Adam. A little sleepy. It is early. It is early. Yeah. It's a little early for me. I mean,

it's only 10.15. It's not that early, but, you know, I'm up until like 3 in the morning writing on Sunday night, so, you know. Alright, a little sleepy. I'm working on it. You know, I'm trying to get things going. Alright. Get those gears turning. Well, we'll get you fired up with this one.

Well, not the first one. Two is going to start for the Dolphins. Carson Wentz is not going to be removed. So, you know. Carson Wentz is going to start next week. And they are facing Seattle. I think I consider making that switch. Me too.

At some point. He is awful. And it's not just the situation. This isn't just the bad offensive line or a lack of weapons. He's just playing arguably as poorly as any quarterback in the NFL right now. The interception that was returned for a touchdown to Miles Sanders was an awful throw. The one to Travis Fulgham in the end zone.

And he had two more interceptions, I think. One was dropped and the other one in the end zone was overturned by review. He has been terrible. Yeah. His pick six was Flacco-esque.

They basically did the same exact thing. His, I think, was a little worse. Well, they were both overhits. At least he was getting hit. But he threw it so high. Yeah, no, it was really bad. But at least, no, I think the interception down by the goal line

that he was targeting Alshon was... When Alshon didn't jump for it? Well, but it was like four yards away from alshon it wasn't like in that one he wasn't even like he is it's like the sam darnold on monday night football against the patriots he's seeing ghosts yeah yeah i he's a mess their offense is really bad and i did see a tweet today that the cowboys have only one game left against a team with the 500 record or better than 500 maybe.

I don't know. The Cowboys have the easiest schedule, so maybe they are now the favorites to win the NFC East. But the Chiefs are clearly the favorites to win the NFC West as they get a brilliant come-from-behind victory, 35-31. They scored 35 points, and Patrick Mahomes only had 24. He had an interception near the end zone that, you know, could have been basically an eight-point swing because if he makes a better throw or maybe a better route was run,

I'm not sure whose fault it was there. That's eight more points. That's six points for the touchdown and you don't get the minus two for the pick. So whatever Mahomes is great. He's now thrown for 348 or more yards and three straight games and he's Mahomes, but let's talk about the running backs here. Clyde Edwards, he let, 14 carries, 69 yards and two touchdowns, but only one catch. Le'Veon Bell, seven carries, 25 yards and one touchdown, only one catch. Darrell Williams was in at the end of the game

at the two-minute drill when they scored their game-winning touchdown. But Ben, talk about these guys because they definitely seem to establish a clear hierarchy of Clyde Edwards-Elair being the guy. You heard on the broadcast they were talking about Le'Veon Bell didn't want to come unless he didn't want to come to Kansas City unless CEH was cool with it. He's got no ego, according to the coaching staff. He's totally fine with any role.

He basically just wants to win. So that was really nice to hear. But, Ben, what do you think going forward for Clyde Edwards-Ziller? Yeah, I think you said it perfectly. They have a pretty clear hierarchy. Le'Veon Bell is going to spell Clyde Edwards-Hilaire? Yeah, I think you said it perfectly. They have a pretty clear hierarchy. Le'Veon Bell is going to spell Clyde Edwards-Hilaire. Darrell Williams is going to come in on passing down situations, but Clyde Edwards-Hilaire is going to have a ton of potential

to score touchdowns, and he's going to get 10 to 15 touches a week. So he's a must-start RB2. I don't think he's in the RB1 conversation, but he's a must-start. We've got questions about J.K. Dobbins later, but you guys look at J.K. Dobbins, Jonathan Taylor, Clyde Edwards-Elair, and DeAndre Swift. These rookies. And maybe tonight Cam Akers will go off.

But who are the top two rookie running backs rest of the season? Oh, and not James Robinson. Forget about him. He's going to be ahead of them. I'm assuming. Look, if Swift wasn't hurt, I would have Swift at the top,

but I don't know when Swift's coming back. David Johnson concussion on IR. So there's a chance Swift doesn't play this week. I'll take Clyde number one. I think Dobbins has a great chance to be number one, but I don't trust the Ravens coaching staff saying this was just the turning point. He's always going to have this huge share. But I was encouraged by Dobbins, but I'll

prefer Clyde on a much better situation. Yeah, I think Jonathan Taylor and J.K. Dobbins are kind of in the same situation. They're both in three-way splits. They're both coming off arguably their best games of the season, but there's no way of knowing what they're actually going to have moving forward. I suspect both will be the lead back, but that might just be that they get 40% of the carries and the other two guys get 30%. I would actually go Clyde Edwards-Elair and Antonio Gibson. If DeAndre Swift is healthy,

I think DeAndre Swift will be the number one rookie rest. Yeah. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have left Antonio Gibson out. He's, he's got this kind of solidified role. He's easier to predict. I think the other ones have been more volatile.

Okay. And Tyree kill was amazing. Tyree kill. I wanted to see if this was a career high 11 catches. I forgot to look that up. Let's look that up. Raise your hand. Yeah. I mean to see if this was a career high 11 catches. I forgot to look that up. Who wants to look that up? Raise your hand. Yeah, I mean, it is.

I'll look it up. There was a stretch where he had, I think, yeah, it was like the first six games of the season. He only had one game with more than six targets. He's got three in his last four, including 32 targets in his last two games. So Tyreek Hill's fine, guys. And Derek Carr. So Derek Carr now's fine, guys. And Derek Carr. So Derek Carr now has thrown the ball 30 or more times.

Oh, tied for a career high. Thank you, Shragger Jacker. Good stuff. 11 catches for Tyreek Hill. That's a lot. Anyway, Derek Carr, now he's seven games this year with 30 or more pass attempts. And in five of those seven games,

he scored 22 or more fantasy points in six point-per-passing touchdown leagues. And he's done that in each of the last four games in which he's thrown 30 or more passes. So he's had a few games recently, like the three before this, he only threw 23 to 25 passes, and he didn't have good fantasy games.

But when he throws, he's been really good. He's kind of like Kirk Cousins. He's playing very, very well, Derek Carr, and he scored 27 points and could have had more. Nelson Aguilar had a couple of drops. Their fullback, Alec Ingold, had a couple of drops. And then the interception at the end of the game knocked him down from 29 to 27.

That was the last play of the game in desperation. This guy's playing great. Yeah, as Ben Schrager does. 70% rostered. Do you just start him when you think they're going to have to throw? Is that how we're going to approach Derek Carr? I wouldn't say you just start him because I would rather start Taysom Hill this upcoming week than him.

But, yes, playing Atlanta, Carr's going to throw a lot. The Jets, probably not. The Colts, yes. The Charets probably not. The Colts. Yes. The Chargers. Yes. The Dolphins. Who knows?

Yeah. I mean, it's tough to say when like here the games he's thrown 30 or more passes in all but three games. The three games he didn't were at Cleveland at the Chargers versus Denver. I'm not necessarily like, I guess Cleveland, that's a game where you would expect things to be relatively low scoring because the Browns play conservatively anyway. That was the wind game. If you recall. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And then the chargers game, like that would be one, it was 31, 26 and he threw the ball 23 times. That would be the kind of game where you would expect

him to have to throw the ball. So I just, I't know how I don't know if I feel confident in being able to predict that. And he has to play really well, even when he like he's throwing. He threw 31 passes yesterday and he had an incredibly good game and it was still 27 fantasy points which is a very good game but it's not great so i just that's pretty great uh in this this yeah that's pretty great where'd he finish last night yesterday that's the same amount as aaron rogers who was top five okay he was tied for fourth yeah i don't know i just i don't feel like there's a ton of upside there well that's fair and what do you guys last question here? What do you think about Nelson Aguilar? He's 41% rostered. This

was his second game all year with more than four targets, but he makes them count six catches, 88 yards and a touchdown on nine targets against the chiefs. So yeah, and those previous three games were car barely through. He was invisible, but when car does throw this, this appears to clearly

be the number one wide receiver for the Raiders. Ben, who's a bigger priority? They're rostered in about the same amount of leagues. Nelson Aguilar or Michael Pittman? If you want a guy for this week, I'll take Nelson Aguilar because he has the Falcons, and he's a touchdown dart throw, plus maybe he'll have some

catches if we can get Carr to throw the ball. I'll take Aguilar this week with a better chance at a touchdown, but I think Pittman is a better option moving forward. Michael Pittman with a bullet. With a bullet. Okay, well, we can make him our first question then. Five big topics.

Topic number one from Dave Kuhn. Is Michael Pittman a must start? And it's a little bit funny to ask that coming off of three targets, but did catch all of them and he had a long touchdown catch and run and uh he had 15 targets the previous game previous two games combined he played 16 more snaps than any other colts wide receiver he's their guy he's their number one guy i don't care what the targets were all right so is he a must start chris you just said no no and, I think he is their number one wide receiver. I think he's pretty good, but we're, we're still talking about a rookie playing with Phillip rivers. The Colts, uh, still throw the ball to their wide receivers. I would imagine

less than any team in the NFL. I don't actually know that 100% certain right now, but you look at yesterday and Trey Burton had five targets. My Ali Cox had to Jack Doyle had to the running backs had, I think seven between them or nine between them. So it's just, even though he is the number one wide receiver, that is less valuable in this offense than it is in other offenses. That being said, I do think he is a must add on waivers and you know,

can definitely be a you know number three wide receiver moving forward with more with upside and he has a great schedule moving forward too we might talk about that a little bit with streaming quarterback sue with rivers with a good schedule but pitman has a good schedule but the nine percent target share this week wasn't super encouraging and they they throw to 10 plus players every single week. Rivers spreads the ball around, but yes, Pittman's their number one wide receiver.

Was this, was this his first touchdown of the year? I think so. Probably. Right. And it was a long, let's see. Let's see.

Okay. Let's see if he has any red zone targets. You guys curious. I'm very curious, Adam. Me too. It was a long... It was. Okay. Let's see if he has any red zone targets. You guys curious? I'm very curious, Adam. Me too. Michael Pittman. We need music for him.

What does Pittman do? Pittman has four red zone, one green zone target this year. Not a lot. That's not bad. He's only got 31 targets overall. That's the thing to remember is that he played the first three games of the season, started to look like he was going to take on a larger role, but he was mostly below 60% snap share each of those first four games except for one.

And then he had compartment syndrome. It was like a really scary sounding injury he got stepped on. And then he's come back in the last three games. He's been at 80 or more of the snaps so you know i think he's we're definitely learning a lot more about him and the role that he has over the last three games and he's been pretty good it's just not someone that i necessarily think you have to start every week who's that wide receiver that ruins all of your delicious fruit pit man all right next question next big topic uh-huh from in the booth podcast is dj moore back to being number one again i don't

know exactly how to interpret that so let's say ben is d is DJ Moore back to being a no doubt about it, must start wide receiver again. No, I don't think so. I think he's in the wide receiver two range. I think that he's the number one in Carolina. I think that, you know, Anderson's going to have more targets than him, but he's shown of late

that Robbie Anderson's just going to have targets. The yards per target are not great. He's had six or fewer yards per target every single week in the past four weeks. And Moore is their deep guy. Moore can score deep touchdowns. But I don't think Moore is a wide receiver one in fantasy.

Well, but can you be a must start if you're a wide receiver too? No, not really. No? Because I don't think that his two to four catches, that's a little scary in some PPR leagues. I think you can find other options potentially. But yes, I like more than Anderson,

and I'm going to want to start more. It's going to be tough to bench him. Boy, he's had a weird season. Very, very hard to interpret. So to give you the numbers, he's now on pace for only 67 catches, but 1,255 yards and six touchdowns on 116 targets. And he has a 21.4% target share.

That's really good. But they don't throw the ball nearly as much as they did last year when he had nearly a 25% target share in his first 14 games. And that's really what you have to look at. You remember in his 15th game, DJ Moore left really early with an injury. It's kind kind of you can't really count that game against him so when he was healthy he was getting almost 25 of the targets now it's 21.4

you can live with that but they throw the ball a lot less so he's on pace for 116 targets he's making the most of them chris i think he's averaging like 18 yards per catch but it's really hard to answer questions about Panthers wide receivers. That's my takeaway. Every week we do this, and I think that my personal take is DJ Moore is obviously a really good

football player, and I am inclined to start him. I'd have to be pretty loaded at wide receiver to sit DJ Moore. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he's actually having a hard season to, I don't know exactly how you phrased it, a hard season to make sense of, uh, like Justin Jefferson's not having a difficult season to make sense of, right. We just know that like some weeks he's going to go off and hit on a big player or score a touchdown and, you know, be an awesome

fantasy player. And some weeks he's not. And I think that's just the nature of the style of receiver that DJ Moore has become this season. He's a little bit like Stefan dig last year. He's a little bit like, you know, Adam Thielen, obviously, I think is the best version of this player, but he's like what Adam Thielen is right now. And there are other players in that mold. And basically what it is,

is they don't necessarily get a ton of targets every week, but the targets that they do have are invariably very high value. They just don't always hit. They're kind of low percentage, high value targets, if that makes sense. And so it's the kind of thing where if he hits on that 52 yard catch yesterday, well, then he's going to have a huge day. If PJ Walker throws that pass two yards to the left and it's out of bounds and he can't catch it, then he just has a decent game I think that's what you're looking at well Will Fuller is another example um but yeah he's in that class of big play boomer bust wide receiver twos um and I think

you guys may be underselling Robbie Anderson just a little bit his role hasn't changed that much from early in the season when we thought he was a must-start guy. I think one of the things, like, production ebbs and flows over the course of a season, but when the role hasn't changed that much, I'm inclined to still give that guy the benefit of the doubt. And so that's what I'm doing with Robbie Anderson, where, yes, he hasn't had more than 75 yards in a game since week six. Very disappointing, given how good he was early. So I do think Robbie Anderson still has a very valuable role, and this is probably just the low end of his range of outcomes

on a per-target or per-catch basis, and we'll probably see some positive regression moving forward. So how has the ADOT trended throughout the season for Robbie Anderson? It's been pretty consistent. There was a peak in the middle between weeks five and six where he was 10 to 16 yards per target in each game. And then other than that, it's pretty much been right around eight to 10 with the exception of two

really bad games. Yesterday's being, you know, 3.28 average depth of target. That's really low, but he had one with 4.4 earlier in the season too. And, you know, 3.28 average depth of target. That's really low, but he had one with 4.4 earlier in the season too. And, you know, PJ Walker being the quarterback, he's not going to be the quarterback moving forward.

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avoid unnecessary damages to get the job done right. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. Alright, let's go to our next topic here. Big topic number three is from Charles Hamill. Where do you see J.K. Dobbins going forward? Baltimore. I agree. I think he's going to be on Baltimore.

Alright, let's go to big topic number four. They'll play on the road a few times. Oh, right, Pittsburgh. He'll probably be in Pittsburgh week 14 in Cleveland, but for the most part, Baltimore. This is such an exciting development, though. I think, all right, I did some numbers crunching. I took the combined statistics of all three running backs

so far this year. I gave him 66% of that. 66% of, you know, let's just say he gets two-thirds of the, and this is just rushing. Let's say he gets two-thirds of the carries going forward. Then I gave him a 16-game pace, and then I gave him, and then I divided to get a per-game average, and I gave him 10 receiving yards per game, which is what he's averaged. That brings him to, in non-PPR, 10.7 fantasy points per game. And that would basically make him tied with what Miles Sanders and Clyde Edwards-Elair have done this year. And it would be about RB18. Now, he could be even better than that. The pace, by the way, was 226 carries, 1,043 yards, and eight and a half touchdowns rushing. And then

just, like I said, 10 receiving yards per game. He could be better than that because he's had a much better yards per carry than Ingram and Edwards. So when you combine all their statistics, his is kind of like weighted down by their lack of efficiency. They haven't been bad, but he's been much better.

He's really elusive. He's really damn good. And maybe their offense gets going a little bit and plays better. Who knows? But yeah, I think you're looking at an RB2, certainly a non-PPR. And like, I don't know.

If he's getting 15 plus touches a week, nobody's sitting J.K. Dobbins, I think. So I'm optimistic. I'm hopeful. And I hope we get a DeAndre Swift situation here. You probably need to see one more week before you fully trust it. But I don't know. I'm pretty pumped up about what we saw. And I wish I had J.K. Dobbins on any of my teams, and I don't. Ben, how do you feel here? Where's

Dobbins going? Yeah, I'm encouraged. And with your exercise, too, I think if you made it 55% of the touches for Dobbins and used his efficiency, you'd probably get very similar numbers, a very productive RB2. So regardless, I think if they just have Gus Edwards and Mark Ingram split and Dobbins gets the majority, that would be enough for me to say he's going to be a guy you can't bench moving forward. Thanksgiving, he's got the Steelers who he just ran all over without Ingram last time. I'm probably going to start him. He's going to be a top 20 running back. And then he's got Dallas, which is going to be a boom game, regardless of his touch share.

So he's not going to get 77% of the touches, but give me 60%. And I love Dobbins. Cool. All right. So how about Dobbins or I'll try to do a non, non rookie here. Oh gosh.

Miles Sanders. Oh, Miles Sanders. For sure. Sanders. I was going to say, I like him over Giovanni Bernard, Duke Johnson, guys like that. Well, Duke, yeah, I think Duke's easy.

Geo's not as easy because Geo's going to be involved in the passing game, and Dobbins probably isn't. Yeah, I think that can be a PPR versus non-PPR thing, and that might be the same thing with Miles Sanders, although I don't know for sure that Miles Sanders is a better runner than J.K. Dobbins. We have a very small sample size for J.K. Dobbins though he has been pretty impressive

but Miles Sanders is really good. He's outstanding. I mean he had the fumble yesterday but you know for the most part he's been exceptional in his career really. Yeah. Dobbins was the running back I was so excited about. Just go look at his game log, like the last five games in college.

He faced a lot of good defense, and he ran for like 150 yards or more against basically all of them. He's an absolute beast. So set the beast loose, and if he's available, he's 82% rostered. If he's available, go get him. I think a good comp is, and don't get mad at me, because I know the fantasy football community has decided Kenyon Drake is the worst player in the history of football.

That's probably a pretty good comp for what you should expect. He's going to get, you know, I, if he does get that role, it'll probably be most of the carries, although not all of them, but maybe a majority and not much passing game work.

I think he'll be much more efficient, though. Maybe. I mean, I think they're in pretty similar situations. Kenyon Drake's in a better offense. He's averaging 4.4 yards per carry. Dobbins is what? Like well over five, right? Yeah, but smaller sample size.

Yeah, I mean mean he might be more efficient i think drake's gonna have more touchdown equity so i think it'll be pretty close all righty all right guys uh moving on to our next topic here it's from it is from brad zabar brad zabar zanzibar who do i stream rest of season i lost lost Burrow and Dak in a 14-team league. Dalton, Tua, Rivers, or Kirk? So that would be Kirk Cousins, not Christian Kirk. Dalton, Tua, Rivers, or Kirk? Let's just talk about streaming quarterbacks in general,

but if you had to pick one of them, Dalton, Tua, Rivers, or Kirk, who would you go with? It's Rivers for me. I think the pass volume is going to be pretty insane, and he's got really four good matchups coming up. Tennessee, Houston, Las Vegas is an okay matchup. And then Houston again. So I'm encouraged by his matchups.

And they're going to have to throw in those games. And they will throw. And he's going to throw to Jonathan Taylor too, which he hasn't been able to do recently or hasn't chosen to do recently. So I think Rivers is the best option of all of them. What if we threw Taysom Hill in there? I prefer Taysom option of all of them. What if we threw Taysom Hill in there? I prefer Taysom Hill over all of them. I'm

very... I don't know how much we learned about Taysom Hill yesterday. I think he didn't play nearly as well as the numbers. You can run against a real NFL defense. Here's what I learned about Taysom Hill yesterday is Jameis Winston is not playing quarterback. Sure

because that was the scary thing going into yesterday. Yeah, I don't know man. It was a lot of it was like screen screen slant slant screen badly under thrown deep ball that Emmanuel Sanders somehow caught because the defender

couldn't believe how under thrown it was screen screen screen, screen slant. And so I just like, he was passable. He was competent as a quarterback. And I think that'll be enough given his rushing ability. Right.

Like, I think the, it'll be like Josh Allen next year, last year. That's exactly what I was just like, yeah. What's that? That's exactly what I was going to say.

Yeah. Yeah. Like you just hope he's not a disaster throwing the ball because he's such a good rusher. But I I don't want to. Yeah, he's not like he's probably

a muster quarterback just because of the rushing. That's just kind of how it is. The thing about slants and screens in that offense is you have the best screen pass catcher

and you have the best slant pass catcher in the league. So he didn't throw the ball to Kamara at all. But maybe he didn't have to. Yeah, that was concerning. I don't know if you heard this, Chris, but

Heath said he would rather have James Robinson than Alvin Kamara in non-PPR. James Robinson's not getting the ball thrown to him either. I know Gardner Mincher will be back at some point and he'll start throwing it to him, but if Jake Luton remains the starter, which

he shouldn't, but I don't know when Minshew's going to be healthy, but Luton's not throwing the ball to James Robinson either. He has nine... Yeah, but Robinson gets 20 carries a game now. Sure. Camara gets 12 or 13. I mean, I don't agree with it, but it was an interesting take. I disagree. And Minshew, by the way,

is also like... If those guys aren't available, like Kirk Cousins is 73% roster, Derek Carr 70, Rivers 49%, he's much more available. Dalton is widely available. He gets Washington this week. People are like hailing him because he threw three touchdowns.

He threw for 203 yards against Minnesota. Other names just to throw out there, Teddy Bridgewater at Minnesota this week, then a bye, unfortunately. You're going to take it week to week, but Bridgewater, if he plays, and I think he has a pretty good chance of playing at Minnesota, that could be good.

I don't trust Daniel Jones at all, but he does have 20 to 24 points in three of his last four games. A lot of it's been rushing. But his next four games are Cincinnati, Seattle, Arizona, and Cleveland. They all rank 20th or worse against quarterbacks. Really, I'm just talking

to 14-team league owners who are desperate right now. The way this question was phrased is the right one. I think the way the question was phrased is, who am I streaming, I think the way the question was phrased is, who am I streaming the rest of season? Well, not any one person.

You're streaming. In a 14-team league, if you lost someone like Joe Burrow, maybe next week you're starting Teddy Bridgewater against the Vikings. Or I don't want to say Baker Mayfield against the Jaguars because I don't think it matters who he's playing. He's just not particularly good. But it's going to be someone different every week. If Taysom Hill's out there, he gets the Falcons again in week 13. And he's probably going to be a must-start guy at least the next two weeks.

Who's a late, if the trade deadline hasn't passed, late-season, buy-low quarterback? Lamar Jackson? Yeah. I was thinking on the lower end, like a Stafford. Because if Galladay plays, he's going to be a lot better. I don't think he's going to be great, but I think

he's going to be better than Burrow. Burrow, let's be honest here. You weren't winning your league because of Joe Burrow. He did some encouraging things, but he wasn't putting up great fantasy production. Oh, Ryan Tannehill. The problem is he played well this week. I guess I was thinking

of somebody that you could just get. Maybe he gets dropped or something. But if Galladay's healthy, I think you can get in the 22-point range from Stafford. I know I just dumped on him, but Carson Wentz. Oh, he's got Seattle this week. He's been decent for fantasy,

even when he's been playing poorly. Because of rushing touchdowns, mostly. Yeah. Stafford, I will see with this thumb. It didn't look like he should have been playing yesterday. Particularly, there was that low snap fumble that um he just like it looked like he had no chance of picking that up and it was a bad snap it was at his knees but like he he just didn't look like his hand was right um yeah yeah i think lamar jackson is a great by-low still. Yeah.

Okay. Someone who could get dropped too, Adam, after tonight is Jared Goff with a tough matchup tonight. Late in the fantasy playoffs, he has the Jets in Week 15 and the Seahawks in Week 16. Cool. All right, let's go to this last one here from Bossy. When it comes to DSTs, do you play a good defense with a bad matchup or a worse defense with a great matchup?

It's a little worse. Sliding scale here. You know, it's not. I play. The Chargers really let everyone down last week, huh? This week. Although they had a pick six. I didn't even check how many points they scored.

But they gave up a lot i i think the better way to think about it is not good defense bad defense good offense bad defense but more sacks and turnovers like cleveland doesn't have a great defense but they were going against the eagles who have been turning the ball over like crazy this season uh they've been giving up a lot of sacks so uh Cleveland was a good streaming defense this week um I'm trying to think of like the Giants are always a good defense to stream against because Daniel Jones has real turnover issues I think that's and get sacked and he got yeah and and so I think that's the better way to look at it um You look at the top DSTs. What am I looking at?

I'm going to favor the good DSTs, though, to be quite honest. I'm not sitting the Steelers for probably... I haven't looked at the schedule, but if I were doing rankings, I know the Steelers against the Ravens this week are probably going to be top three or four. I'm just not sitting them. And the Chargers, they were saved by the touchdown. They had a decent game, but they gave up 26 points.

They only had one sack. They had one interception. It's not like they played very well even against... They're a bad defense. They're a horrible defense. So I'd be wary of using them again. There's only two games the rest of the season for the Steelers where I think you might look at them and say,

well, they might be in the lower half of the number one DSTs, and that would be Baltimore, and then at Buffalo in week 14. Other than that, Pittsburgh's defense has Washington, Cincinnati, and the Colts. They're going to feast. Yeah, it's going to be. And they're just so good. I don't know.

So I have no problem streaming DSTs. I mean, we all stream DSTs, but I prefer to just go with the really good ones. If you find the really good ones. Like, the Steelers are definitely one of them, but I don't know. I prefer to just go with the really good ones. If you find the really good ones. The Steelers are definitely one of them, but I don't know. The Colts, I don't know, are one of them.

Let's see how the Colts did this week. Off the top of my head, I don't know DST scoring. I apologize. Five to seven points, depending on the league. They recovered three fumbles. That's weird. They had one sack, one interception, but three fumbles, and they ended up in a normal league.

I don't know. The basic CBS scoring, nine points, which is really good. They've been very good. This is the tough thing, though, is we know less about who is a really, really good defense right now than we generally think we do. We're still dealing with really small sample sizes. We're still dealing with, I mean, we're talking about 10 games for every team except what, two or three. And so this is why I tend to be a little less sure about a team like the Steelers, just you're going to start them every week.

I think we know more about who the bad offenses are than the great defenses, I guess would be the way that I would put it. One thing I can say is that even if you are nervous about your stud DST, I just wouldn't drop. I would never drop the Steelers. I'd find a way to roster a second one. And the best example is going to be the Bears.

The Bears are 52% rostered right now. They've been really, really good lately. Except for one game against New Orleans. They were terrible. They had a bye this week. They're at Green Bay. And then after that there's not a matchup I think that you're going to sit the Bears. But at Green Bay in week

12, are you going to start them? It's a tough call. I don't know if you have to because they're only 52% rostered and i don't know if anyone's picking them up this week but you know that's that's going to be a difficult decision green bay does not give up a lot of fantasy points to dsts unless they fumble three times like they did at the colts well when i saw this question i thought immediately seahawks because their defense we all know is terrible they've actually had a lot of sacks and they have amazing matchups coming up.

I would start the Seahawks over the Bears. Yeah, Seahawks get the Eagles this week on the road. The Seahawks DST, their next four opponents are ranked 26th, 28th, 32nd, and 30th in fantasy points allowed to DSTs. They're the best matchups you could get.

Eagles, Giants, Jets, football team. And we'll see. Are you going to start the Seahawks over the Steelers this week? No, I'm still rolling with the Steelers. Yeah, it is interesting, the good defense versus bad offense, because you look at the top five DSTs this week, where the Browns against the Eagles, not a great defense, but a great matchup.

Steelers against Jacksonville, both. The top five DSTs this week were the Browns against the Eagles. Not a great defense, but a great matchup. Steelers against Jacksonville. Both Saints Falcons. Great defense. Good matchup. If Julio Jones is hurt. Yeah, that's been the case all season. Matt Ryan's averaging like 6.4 yards per attempt in the games where Julio Jones is either missed or been hurt.

And then the Panthers who aren't a great defense, but are decent. And the Broncos again decent but I don't even know if the Dolphins would have been considered a great matchup it's I don't know there's no easy answer I tend towards streaming and playing matchups and looking for the quarterbacks who are you know your your Nick F Nick's Fole, your Drew's Lock, your Nick's Mullen. Those are the kind of guys, unless you have a Steelers, I think is the way to view it.

All right, that's going to do it for Fantasy Football today. Thanks, everybody, for listening. We're coming at you tomorrow with the Waver Wire. Don't forget we have a Twitch stream tomorrow night, Tuesday night at 8 p.m. Eastern, eastern we'll help you out with more waiver wire and starter sit and trade questions and things like that and we'll talk about thanksgiving it'll be a lot of fun so for ben schrager and chris towers i'm adam azar thanks so much for tuning in and we'll talk to you tomorrow