Fantasy Football Today - FLOORPLAY! Which Players Have the Safest Floors? (05/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

If you're on the clock and need a safe player who won't be a bust, who do you draft? We compare trios of players and debate their floors! First, some news and notes (2:40) on Stefon Diggs and others ... Who has the safest floor among Ladd McConkey, Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Tyreek Hill (4:40)? How about among Breece Hall, Ken Walker and RJ Harvey (18:30)? Do we have an idea of what Harvey's floor is? ... Debating Trey McBride, Brock Bowers and Jonathan Taylor (25:05). Are all three of these guys safe picks in Round 2? And finally, we talk floor for DeVonta Smith, Calvin Ridley and Jerry Jeudy (31:40) ... Your emails at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow FFT Express on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FFT newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fan To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I don't want to have a bust on my hands here. So who's got the safest floor? We've got four groups of three players. And we have your emails today at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. And it feels like it's been a week since I have talked to Heath Cummings. Welcome back to the show. Heath, it has been a week since I've talked to you,

I think, what's up? Yeah, yeah. It's a little I've talked to you, I think. What's up? Yeah, yeah. It's a little under the weather on Thursday, I think, or maybe it was Wednesday and I wasn't on Thursday's show, but then went and coached some basketball in Orlando, but I'm back. Did FFT dynasty yesterday. Ready to talk about floors.

Yeah. And I was disappointed because when you sent the text message to all of us, it said you weren't feeling well. I was about to type feel better and then Dave put it like a second before me. And then it looked like I was just piggybacking on Dave, but I genuinely meant feel better, Heath. So I hope you are feeling better. I am feeling, I mean, yeah, I don't, I'm at the age now where I never get to 100%.

But I'm feeling better. Okay, good, good. All right, we at the age now where I never get to 100%, but I'm feeling better. Okay, good, good. All right, we got some news and notes. Jamie's here as well. Dave will hop on shortly. And we've got the safest floors and then your emails. So let's start with the news and notes.

James Cook missed the first day of OTAs for the bills. And yeah, we are hoping no holdout for him. Holdouts are bad. And yeah, he's not, you know, may not see him till training camp, but he needs a new con. He wants a new contract. So James Cook missed the first day of OTAs for the bills and also Joey Bosa, who they brought in this offseason. He is out until training camp with a calf injury pass rusher now for Buffalo. Chad Graff of the athletic thinks that Stefan

digs could be ready by week four. Jamie, your take on the New England pass catchers right now. I mean, at this point, I'm kind of expecting to be ready for week one. The fact that he's practicing in OTAs with no knee brace, that's a pretty good sign. So look, I understand being cautiously optimistic with him.

31 years old, coming off the ACL tear, still getting used to a new team. So how much do you want to make sure that he's up to speed with everything that they're doing? But I'm kind of operating as he's going to be an older receiver coming off an injury but ready for week one and probably still going to be the best receiver on his team. So a low end number three, high end number four receiver. Okay. And Kirk Cousins missed the first day of OTAs and that's not really a surprise. We'll see where he ends up.

Probably Atlanta. Heath, what's coming up on FFT dynasty this week? I've got Jacob Gibbs coming back on Friday and we're going to talk about some of our rankings discrepancies regarding the rookies. He's got his rankings list out. I've got my rankings list out. I think we both updated them since that early May ranking. And we're gonna talk about some guys that he likes more than I do and guys

that I like more than he does and see if we can convince each other. Very cool. Looking forward to it. Check out FFT dynasty the episodes most of them drop in the FFT feed. But if you want a separate feed fantasy football today dynasty, just look it up. You'll find it. All right. First trio of players. The guys made fun of me for putting Tyree Kill in the notes again.

He's the only player that appeared on yesterday's show that will also be discussed on today's show. But I'm going to put Tyree Kill in there. Thirty one year old Tyree Kill with two up and coming players, Lad McConkey in his second year, Jackson Smith and Hill with two up and coming players, Lad McConkey in his second year, Jackson Smith and Jigba in his third year, who has, what's his safest floor? The safest floor. If you want a little peek behind the curtain.

Ah, forget it, forget it. But I kind of screwed over Thomas this morning. So if you see any discrepancies in the graphics is my fault. Lad McConkey, Jackson Smith and Jigma Tyree Kill, who has the safest floor? Heath Cummings, what do you think? Not Tyree Kill. I was really prepared to talk about

how I didn't like his floor. No, I think the safest floor is probably Lad McConkey for me. Okay, Lad McConkey, JSN Tyree Kill. Admantly, Heath Heath. I don't think Tyree has the safest floor of these guys as things are currently standing for their respective teams. Why McConkey over JSN? Do you know how much I struggle with McConkey over JSN? I think about it, I think about it, I think about it, I think about it, I think about it, I think about it, I think about it, I think about it, I think about it, I think about it, I think about it, I think about it, I think about it, I think about it, I for their respective teams. Why Makhankey over JSN? Do you know how much I struggle with Makhankey over JSN?

I think about it. I'm going to go ahead and say it. I think about it in the shower. And Jerry Jones once talked about that. You do some really good thinking in the shower. Remember, he was talking about that, I think with like one of the contracts. I don't remember who it was. And it's true.

You know, you're just sitting there alone with your thoughts. And I have this debate. I've heard people say that before and I mostly just think about washing and rinsing and getting out. I don't spend that much time in the shower. Yeah, I do. It's like when you have little kids,

I mean, it's the only time it's quiet for you. It's just, just leave me alone. I'm in the shower. So I think about fantasy football and Lava Conke versus JSN. Really, I struggle with it, but this is just the floor. Well, first of all, I guess, who do you guys have ranked higher,

McConkey or JSN? McConkey. McConkey by one spot, but to me they're very similar in their profiles. And what do you think about in the shower? No, why did you guys pick McConkey with a safer floor than JSN? I mean, I'm we're worried about Cooper Cup than I am Trey Harris.

I'm a lot more worried about Sam Darnold than I am Justin. There's changes for JSN. There's really not much different for Lad McConkey. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, McConkey was the number 19 wide receiver per game with only 82 catches, only 112 targets in 16 games. He was so good with those targets though. In his last 10 games though, McConkey was the number 11 wide receiver per game on pace for

1500 yards on 124 targets. All right, so let me make the case for Tyree Kill. He was 30 last year. I think we've established at this point, elite wide receivers, like 30 is not old, right? So I just cannot look at Tyree Kill's last year, last season and be like, he's washed up. He was washed up last year. It doesn't make any sense for him to be basically the best wide receiver in football at age 28 and age 29 and then be 33rd per game in PPR. And

he played a full 17 games and didn't even reach a thousand yards. There's something else there. And he obviously had a preseason wrist injury, bothered him all year. He is the best receiver in this trio. He might still be the best receiver in the NFL. It might sound crazy, but he's right up there. Tyree Kill is safer than you think, fellas. And he's going to be one of my favorite picks, by the way, if I can get him in the third round. So my case for him is that everything we saw last year was just the wrist injury. He's about to bounce back. Well, the offense completely changed

because of his wrist injury. Yeah. I don't, it's hard for me to say that when he still played every single game and they threw him the 120 balls. So I know we've seen good veteran wide receivers at 31 for sure. I wonder how many of them have been healthy and air quotes because he played the entire season. I've played the entire season at age 30 and seen their receiving yards drop 800 yards and then still be elite at 31.

I did find a few wide receivers. This was not an easy exercise to do. Right. and then still be elite at 31. I did find a few wide receivers. This was not an easy exercise to do, right? But I found a few wide receivers who struggled late in their career and then bounced back. Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward, Randy Moss come to mind, and they did that at even later than 31. So Reggie Wayne had his,

actually Reggie Wayne's a great example, but he wasn't nearly as bad as Tyreek Hill, but he went from wide receiver five per game at age 29 to 14 per game at age 30 back to wide receiver five per game at age 31. Heinz Ward was kind of bad. It looked like from age 29, 30 and 31. He didn't, he just wasn't so great. And then he went over a thousand yards. He had great years at age 32 and 33. Randy Moss, wide receiver 14 at age 31, and then wide receiver two at age 32. So those are just a few examples of guys who had bounce back years. Tyreek Hill would have more to bounce back from, but I will, this is my last stat on Tyreek Hill. In 11 games with Tua, he was on pace for 134 targets. Now that's a far cry from what he did

the previous two years, which was probably, I'm guessing around 180 targets off the top of my head, but he had a hundred and- I think it was 170 and 172, so I think it was a 171 average from what I'm thinking. Okay, so 10 a game. So 134 targets was his pace with Tua in 11 games last year. That's more than what McConkey had.

Guessing that's more than what JSN had. I don't know if you have that in front of you. He had 137 targets in 17 games. So if they all got the same amount of targets, who do you think you'd rank highest? JSN, Hill or McConkey? So if they all got the same amount of targets, who do you think you'd rank highest? JSN, Hill or McConkie? The same amount of targets?

Yeah, let's say they were all getting the same amount of targets. McConkie. Okay. So you really don't expect Tyreek Hill to go back to being elite per target? I'm still hopeful because of what we saw the first two years in Miami, the first two years that you or the two years you discussed. And I don't think he's completely washed up. I agree with that sentiment.

But to Heath's point, the offense did change. I don't think it changed because of Tyrese Hill's wrist injury. I think it changed because of Tua and the concern of the offensive line and making sure that he's going to be upright and safe. And coming off here, we missed six games due you know, due to not just the concussion, but also the hip injury. I don't see them going back to necessarily a more, a less rhythm, you know, on schedule type of offense.

I think that's really what the goal is to get the ball out of his hands quickly. And that's not going to be to Tyree Kill's benefit from an upside play. And so, you know, to sort of marry the two shows that we've done this week I Think in terms of upside, you know if you want to put him in the same category as the other two receivers we discussed yesterday so probably has more upside than all four of those guys but in Terms of the floor. I think just looking at it like we've seen what the floor is and it's ugly and you know You can't guarantee at this point, you know the last three years, two has been hurt. Can't guarantee that he's gonna go back to being that guy.

Who knows how much of the wrist injury still bothering me, still having off season procedures done. Hopefully he's passed it, but still could be a lingering issue. And for the most part, yes, 32 is kind of the fall off age, but Heath has brought this up, that once these guys start to get a little older and they start to show you that things are going wrong. It's hard to reverse the trend and say that they get back to being elite level or getting to elite level production so I think drafting him around three still make some sense because the upsides there.

upsides there drafting around to is a little bit concerning your your your statement yesterday is still very valid I think between him and Christian McCaffrey they're the two most fascinating you know people to discuss this year because of what the upside still can be for them but we also may be seeing the the end of the run for both of those elite level producers and it might have been the case for Tyree kill not necessarily just completely injury related last year. Yeah I just want to bring this up because you talk about Tua getting the ball out. We keep saying that Dolphins offense changed.

And I think what you guys are referring to is lower A dot, more passes to the running backs and the tight end, specifically HN and John New Smith, right? So this is where Tua has ranked among qualified quarterbacks in time to throw, you know, like how long they're holding the ball before they throw in the last three seasons when he's had Tyreek Hill. He's been third to last, he's been dead last, and he's been dead last. He always gets the ball out quickly. He can still throw the ball to his wide receivers and get the ball out quickly. He just has to take

more shots downfield. But we talked about that story going into the year where the Dolphins wanted to be less reliant on the explosive play and they wanted to control the ball a little bit more, keep their defense off the field. And they dinked and dunked. My opinion, it's just an opinion, it's just a guess is that Tyree kills just wasn't healthy. And that was part of the reason why they didn't throw to him as much. If you want to buy into that theory, then you know, Tyree could have a huge bounce back season. Yeah, go ahead. I just think if you want to bet on an old wide receiver, like Mike Evans and Devonte

Adams are probably going to go after Tyree kill. He's so much better than them. Both of them scored 17 fantasy points per game last year. Tyree Kill scored over 22 straight years before last year. I understand that. I think Devonte Adams probably did, had a 20 point season as well or two. Yeah, I think so. But we saw like, like Stefan Diggs was better per game than him. Cooper Cup was two points better per game than Tyree Kill. Yeah, I know. He was horrible. You just have to buy the injury excuse. I get it. If you don't, I totally I don't think you're

at a lot. I don't think you're wrong. Well, you can you can buy the injury excuse and give him a 20% increase in what he did last year. And he's still not as good as most of those guys. Why do I have to stop at 20? All right, this is not gonna get Dave's opinion on this. Dave, who has the safest floor, Lad McConkey, Jackson Smith and Jigba or Tyreek Hill, why don't you tell us and say your first words of the show after this commercial break on FFT.

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Solve the puzzle, save the patient. Watson, all episodes now streaming on Paramount+. Dave, you are on the show. Who's got the, we'll just give us a quick answer here and we'll move on to our next topic. Who has the safest floor, McConkey, JSN or Tyreek? Well, first of all, I just wanna say

I do my best thinking in the car, not the shower. I'm gonna say JSN has the safest floor. I think he's got the best shot to replicate the target volume that we saw last year. And I know I heard you guys talk about lab, McConkey and how nothing's really changed for him. Uh, something has changed very much for him. And that's the offense in LA adding Omarion Habpton, adding Najee Harris. This is a team that's going to run the ball more.

And so one of the reasons why I kind of took a step back from Justin Herbert being a top 10 fantasy quarterback in 2025 is because I think they're going to be able to run the ball a lot more often than they did after the start of last season. And that means target volumes going to go down. And I looked it up last year. Macconkey on the season, seven targets per game. That's fine. If you just take the games where the Chargers had 20 or more running back runs, there were eight of them. McConkie averaged six and a half targets per game. So at 16 PPR points

per game scored a lot of touchdowns. That's pretty cool. But in the nine games where the Chargers had 19 or fewer running back runs, it's 8.2 targets per game. You only had two touchdowns. That's pretty cool. But in the nine games where the charges had 19 or fewer running back runs, it's 8.2 targets per game. You only had two touchdowns. That's weird. 16.4 PPR points per game. Um, I think that JSN can still settle in at around eight targets per game. He's not as explosive as McConkie. I would still rather draft McConkie, but we're talking safest floor in full PPR. I think Jackson Smith and Jigba's got it because I

don't think he'll be a fat he we've already seen him affected by the run game in Seattle. And he's still averaging good numbers there. So I just think he's the safest of the three. Okay. By the way, it was Jerry Jones was thinking about bringing Des Bryant back. He was thinking about that in the shower. So and he admitted to doing his best that in the shower. So, and he admitted to doing his best thinking in the shower. So give it a try everybody. Okay, next up, who has the safest floor? Breeze Hall, Ken Walker, or RJ Harvey? Breeze Hall, Ken Walker, or RJ

Harvey? Who you asking? Oh, Dave. Make up for lost time. Yeah, sure. I'll stick in Seattle and say Walker. There's a very consistent track record of him when he does get work. He has a good fantasy average. He gets a lot of carries.

The exception being obviously if the way he ended last year, he averaged 3.1 yards per carry and I want to say like his last nine games, something like that. It might be a little less than that, but it was gross. He was gross last year, except he called more passes. That was cool. But we've seen his rushing, his attempts per game go down just a little bit each year. So rushing average took a nosedive. I think he can bounce back a little bit and still see around 15 to 17 touches per game. And I just I feel safest with him compared to

Harvey who wasn't really like he wasn't big on our radar leading up in the draft process. And then all of a sudden he lands in Denver and we all lose our minds over R.J. Harvey. There's no guarantee that he's going to be great. I love the opportunity for him, but I'd still rather have Kenneth Walker. And then Breece Hall, dude, I looked up how running backs did with Justin Fields over Fields career. And the numbers aren't good. Breece Hall is better than any running back that Fields has ever worked with.

I know the Jets are going to use multiple running backs anyway. career and the numbers aren't good. Breeze Hall is better than any running back that Fields has ever worked with. I know the Jets are going to use multiple running backs anyway. Plus we've already talked about how Justin Fields will take carries on his own. He'll score on his own. I'm trying to get even more. I was never like excited about Breeze Hall. I'm getting even more nervous about Breeze Hall at this point after going back and looking at the track record of running backs with Justin Fields. Justin Fields, I was trying to explain the stat to Jamie on the phone and I struggled,

but here we go. We'll do it on the air. So I looked at Justin Fields in his career, when he's been on the field, Justin Fields touchdowns plus running back touchdowns. So you'd most like a lot of David Montgomery and Ashie Harris, Khalil Herbert. Justin Fields had something like 43% of the total touchdowns that he or the running back scored. That is a lot. Does that make sense? That stat? I crushed it. That's good. Let me call me on the phone. Yeah. Well, that was a dress rehearsal. All right, Jamie, you're up. Who's got the safest

floor? Breece Hall, Ken Walker, Harvey? Dave says Walker, what do you say? Yeah, I agree. I think you just look at Walker's situation. You know, he's, he probably has the toughest competition of this group, you know, so Zach Charbonnet has, you know, proved himself to be a very good number two running back. Most of his damage is done when Walker's not there,

so factor that in, but you know, Harvey should dominate his backfield if things go right. I still think Breece Hall is the best running back for the Jets, despite what Aaron Glenn is planning to do, or at least what he said he's going to do. But you look at what he's done when healthy, and that's hard to overlook. And so his production is pretty strong. Last year, he proved himself to be maybe a better receiver than people thought coming into the NFL because that was kind of the knock on him coming out of Michigan State, even though I think it was a little bit of an overblown situation. But look, Harvey's got to prove himself still.

As Dave said, he wasn't one of the more touted rookies coming into the draft process, but certainly somebody that we were kind of waiting to see where he would end up. As Dave alluded to, he ended up in a great spot. And Breece Hall's, you know, track record so far has been great. You know, even prior to Devonta Adams joining the Jets last year was doing everything we were hoping he was going to do and then just things tailed off and then I just don't understand their process. But Walker is my favorite of this group to draft and I think he's the safest.

I think he has the highest ceiling and the safest floor of this trip. Yeah. And I don't think you draft any of these three running. I mean, I don't draft a lot of players after round one really worried too much about their floor, but I don't think you draft any of these three running backs based on floor. You're drafting them based on the upside and there's big, big upside. I thought there was a good comment in the chat. Bemore said Harvey doesn't have a floor. And the Sean Payton selection, the Alvin Kamara comparisons,

that's really exciting, but it's all about ceiling. I looked this morning at running backs drafted in the sense 22,000 between pick 50 and pick 70. Harvey was the 60th pick between pick 50 and pick 70. There have been 45 running backs drafted since 2000. Six of them have averaged 10 fantasy points per year. It's gross. One of them average 15. Can I bring up one quick thing about that? Do you think that running backs are viewed the same way?

Let's say in the last four, four drafts compared to the drafts prior to the last four drafts. Maybe not, but three of them were drafted that high in the last four drafts. James cook who scored 84 fantasy points for the season, Zach Charbonneau, who scored 73 and Trey Benson, who scored 41. And all three of them were drafted into timeshares where we kind of, we, I, Heath, you know, I remember how we felt about Charbonneau going to Seattle in the moment it happened. We, we both thought they were nuts, but this is a different situation with Harvey.

I don't think he's going there to split a third and a third and a third with Jaleel McLaughlin and Audrick Estimé, unless he absolutely sucks at camp. And then, yeah, that's gonna happen and you're wasting your pick. But I think he's talented. I'm not ready to say that he's gonna be this slam dunk rookie.

He's nowhere near Gentian Hampton as far as I'm concerned. Who are the six that we're good? I'm pulling it up right now. Nope. I already closed it out, so I'll have to look that back up. My go to your history. Sorry. Are you guys, you guys rank it?

You're up on the clock. You're going Walker over Hall and then Harvey. Is that how you rank it? Walker, Hall, Harvey? That's how I currently. Harvey may go ahead of Hall by the time we get to camp. Okay. All right, let's go to our next trio here.

Who has the most, the safest floor, has the safest floor here. Now it's two tight ends and a running back. And they're all being drafted in round two in our drafts. So it's Trey McBride, that's for the most part. I actually, full disclosure, McBride went in the third round of our most recent draft. I think to Heath, that was a great pick. Trey McBride, Brock Bowers, Jonathan Taylor.

I know it's kind of a weird trio, but Trey McBride, Brock Bowers, Jonathan Taylor, who has the safest floor of these three? Jamie, why don't you start? That's a tough one. I'm going to say McBride. If the touchdowns can ever increase, he's going to be the number one tight end. And the target opportunity has been there for basically the last two years. The everything really aside from the touchdowns has been there the last two years. I'm hoping

for a better year from Marvin Harrison Jr. But I still think again, like we talked about yesterday, he's going to be the number one target getter on this team. I don't want to say that running back is probably safer than two guys like this at their position. So as good as Taylor has been, he's also been somewhat injury prone in the last three years. And I have McBride ranked ahead of Bowers based on what I think is going to happen for him. So give me a McBride of this year. Keith, who's the safest here? Bowers, McBride or Jonathan Taylor? safest here, Bowers, McBride or Jonathan Taylor? I'd probably say McBride too. I think all three of these guys have fantastic floors. I don't see very much risk at all for them. Like even if

Bowers and McBride lose 20 targets from last year, they're very likely to score 15 fantasy points per game. And Taylor, we worry about the receptions with Anthony Richardson, but he's averaged more than 20 rush attempts per game in the game he's played with Anthony Richardson and he's always been an efficient rusher. So I don't really see a downside for any of these guys, but I'll go with McBride as the highest floor. I do think Taylor averaged about one target per game with Richardson. That's like start one and a half. Yeah. That's bad. But if you're going to run for 1500 yards, you've still got a pretty good floor. And I think if he plays 17 games with Anthony Richardson, he's going to run for 1500 yards.

Dave, who's got the safest floor Bowers McBride or Taylor? I'll take McBride. I think he's, and that's in PPR. I think if we turn this conversation to half PPR or not PPR, I might lean toward Taylor, but I think McBride's just the safest overall. I think his role is absolutely locked in. I think he's still gonna see 8.5 plus targets per game. That's really rare for a tight end to get anywhere. I think he's earned it in Arizona. His touchdown production has nowhere to go but up. And he stands out as like a really safe quality PPR pick. I worry a little bit about Bowers suffering from the same thing that McConkey could suffer from. Raiders drafted Ash and Gentie.

And not only can Gentie suck up all the carries, he's a pass catcher too. Jack Besh deserves some credit for being added to that receiving court. It could be Myers is still there. Is Bauer's going to get 8.7 targets per game again? I worry a little bit about that number coming down. And I really worry about it coming down to like seven. And we're drafting him neck and neck with McBride. So I love Bowers. I especially loved him last year. I took him

a ton, but this year I don't know if I'm going to take him at all unless I can get him like at a really good value. That's like late round three and I don't think he's going to last that long. Never interesting. Does anybody think that anyone in this trio McBride, Bowers, Jonathan Taylor has a low floor could be a bust. I think there's potential for Bowers. I hate to say it. I'm not going to.

I'm not good. My top. Yeah, he is so good, dude. He's so good. I know it. I absolutely know it, but last year's Raiders offense didn't have anybody else besides Myers and Bowers. The talent is amazing. They're changing this year. It's going to be different. And so I don't want to, I certainly don't want to reach for Brock Bowers.

I'll leave it at that. If I get them at a, I'll, I'll amend what I said before. If I can get him at a fair value, I'll take him. Because I want to have to be a draft. I'm not in. Well, I got a question for you, Dave, because I, you do say that a lot and I know what you mean, but can you explain what you mean by I don't want to reach for him. I want him at a fair value because some people might be going, well, yeah, obviously, but I guess there are guys that you're willing to reach for, but what do you mean by this? There's going to be a guy in every draft this year in home leagues that

reaches for Brock Bowers. There's going to be a guy that reaches at least one for McBride too. We want these guys. They're difference makers at tight end. We're looking for the next Travis Kelsey. So I get it, but I just, I can't look at Brock Bowers and say, yeah, he's going to get nine targets per game again. He's going to have 15.5 PPR points per game again. Yeah. I can't say those same things about him. Like I said,

about McBride, I think McBride is a lot safer in that regard. If I'm expecting one of those two to repeat what they've done, it's McBride because I don't think his offense is his office hasn't changed at all. There's literally nothing different with the Cardinals' offense as far as skill position players go. The Raiders added a big piece in Gentie, and they, you know, saying Jack Bash is a big addition is a lie. It's not that big of an addition,

but it's another set of hands, and he was pretty good last year at TCU. Yeah, they also added Geno Smith. Right, that's what I was gonna say. Now they are gonna be more run heavy. It would be good for the run game. Last year they had the like the fourth most pass attempts in football or something like that. So they are going to definitely be more run heavy. I brought this up, you know, and the last two tight ends who had these great rookie

seasons, they disappointed us. Kyle Pitts, I would consider it a great rookie season. It wasn't great for fantasy, but he at the time he set the rookie record for yards. He only had two touchdowns, I think. And then Laporta, they both took a step back. But, yeah, it's kind of interesting sides of this discussion. All right. I like it. Good debate. Let's go to our next one here.

Let's go to our last one. Which trio? Which player in this trio has the safest floor? Three wide receivers that might start going off the board around late round four, maybe Devante Smith, Calvin Ridley and Jerry Judy, who has the safest floor? Heath, you can start Devante Smith, Calvin Ridley or Jerry Judy. There's not a safest floor on the screen. I'm not sure there's a floor on the screen. I'm not sure there's a floor on the screen. If, if I'm going to

go with Jerry Judy, but I don't, I don't, I don't even know how, like you almost just have to argue against the other two guys as having even lower floors because I don't think that there's anybody on this screen that's guaranteed to score 11 PPR fantasy points per game. Devontae Smith, Calvin Ridley, Jerry Judy. I'll give you, I mean, the number on that I have on Devontae Smith is that 20, 28 games over the last three years with Dallas Goddard, he has averaged about 13 points per game. So.

Last year it was nine. Last year? Last year they didn't, they barely threw. I mean you could really argue that Barkley just killed Devontae Smith last year. And they did win the Super Bowl. Yeah, did they win? Yeah, they did win the Super Bowl.

Yeah, so 28 regular season games with both AJ Brown and Dallas Goddard. 13.1 PPR fantasy points per game, which isn't that good. That's Devontae Smith. That would have made him wide receiver 31 per game last year. You take out two games, by the way, with Gardner Minshew, and it goes down to 12 PPR fantasy points per game, because he had big games, huge games with Gardner Minshew.

And 12 PPR fantasy points per game would have been wide receiver 39 per game in 2024. All right. So Heath is saying that Jerry Judy has the safest floor out of Smith, Ridley, and Judy. Jamie, what say you? I would say Smith, you know, just based on the numbers you just gave. And obviously, there's, you know, Heath said it best, there's, there's flaws with all three of these guys, just given the circumstances. Judy could easily have Dylan Gabriel as his quarterback for the majority of the season, which would be terrifying. Ridley may not benefit from a Cam Ward bump and may still be struggling with a young quarterback who can't process things in the NFL.

I don't think that'll be the case like we'll have us, but you never know. But Smith, at least you know what you're getting. And I do think he'll be closer to the 13 than he will the nine in terms of his production. So in terms of floor, I think it's Smith and I don't think it's particularly close. Oh, wow. Okay. So Devante Smith for Jamie, Jerry, Judy for Heath, Dave, who's got the safest floor? I think it's Judy. I don't feel good saying it. It's based on him being the target leader for the

Browns. And even if the targets aren't great targets, he should still catch a lot of them. And I think he deserves credit for last year, Adam. He made a bunch of plays after the catch. He made a bunch of plays period. And. He made a bunch of plays, period. And so Judy to me is probably the one who he and Nijoku are going to be like the staples of that passing game, obviously. And they're going to be the ones that see the most targets, Judy will work a little further downfield. And he's the one that I think can deliver safe production week in and week out. Whereas with the Vaate, the deal is simple. Like once somebody's missing from Goddard or AJ Brown, yeah, he flies out off the track and he's awesome.

But you gotta wait for that to happen. I'm surprised, David, your answer just given the fact that two guys that we've talked about already, you brought up the run game being better for their teams. Sure. And the Brown run team should be significantly better than what you're saying. I get what you're saying. Fair point. I don't know if Judkins impact on the Browns is going to be the same as Hampton plus Najee in LA and Gentian Las Vegas. Oh, I think Najee is an upgrade over Dobbins. What happened?

Do you think Najee is an upgrade over Dobbins? He's going to play. He's available. So in that regard, yes. And Dobbins might be there. Remember, they've they tendered him. So Dobbins could end up being there. He might overtake Najee on the depth chart.

So then it's Hampton and Dobbins. That's still that's still a great running back room. It's a better running back room in L.A. than it is in Cleveland. Oh, I don't I don't I don't disagree with that. But I's still a great running back room. It's a better running back room in LA than it is in Cleveland. Oh, I don't, I don't, I don't disagree with that, but I think the Browns running back room this year is dramatically better than it was a year ago. Oh, I think you're right. I'm not really, I'm not really feeling great about drafting these guys. Devante Smith, Calvin really, and Jerry.

Judy is the upside plate and that's not close. Like if he's with, hopefully Joe Flacco, I mean, look, he could be great with any of the quarterbacks, based on what we saw last year. Obviously, Jamis is a difference maker for a lot of wide receivers based on his track record. But look, Judy, to Dave's point, I know Heath would agree that he's gonna get funnel targets.

That's awesome. You can counter with, okay, the first three games of Noah Mari Cooper, Cedric Tillman was pretty special as well. But that's just the best sample size of his career is three games. So, Judy, you talked about this, Adam. I don't remember which show it was, but what he did a couple of times in Denver when he started to show flashes, despite poor quarterback play, has that potential if he could stay healthy. Upside versus floor, it's a totally different conversation. I think Judy could be top 15 wide receiver, maybe even top 10. We saw those stretch of games last year and Ridley may not be far behind. Look, if Cam Ward is that much of an upgrade over Will Levis and Ridley is going to also get funnel targets. Look at this receiving court, it's awful.

But to me, the floor is Smith, the ceiling favors the other two. Okay. Let's take a break. And we got your emails when we come back. So your emails at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. If you haven't, oh, I didn't put any Apple podcast questions in. I try to get some Apple podcast questions in on tomorrow's show. But we will be talking about Tyree kill tomorrow.

You know what? I'm just maybe I'll write the player out. Still have a busted wrist. You know, it's not, I've only talked about him two shows in a row. And here's the thing about Tyree kill. Not only is he, you know, do I find it the most interesting player in fantasy this year because he obviously has this huge upside or he's shown it. I think he still has it.

Maybe you guys don't. But if he gets back on track, it's going to have a domino effect on other players that we're going to invest in. Probably not HN, but maybe like fewer catches, I would say. But definitely it would hurt John S. Smith and it would keep Jalen Waddell from breaking out. It could catapult Tua into close to must-start conversation. I think he is so interesting, not just for him, but for what he would do to the rest

of the Dolphins offense, which is an offense that I think you want a piece of. I know what we can do for tomorrow's show. Okay. For Tyree Kill, players who disparage other players. Disparage, you mean not, you mean like hold them back? Well, no, you heard what he said about Travis Hunter, right? Oh, no, no, no, I didn't. Oh, we'll say that for tomorrow. Yeah, the other reason why I want to draft Tyree Kill

is he's just such a good guy. I just want him on my team. All right, let's take a break on fantasy football today. And when we come back, we'll read your emails. We'll be right back. This email is from Kevin. Dave seems to have taken a liking to warn people against drafting players too close to their ceiling.

Obviously there are limitations to any rule unless Dave refuses to draft any player at 101 on principle, which of course he doesn't. But what is the actionable element of this advice? Who are some high capital players who aren't being drafted too close to their ceiling? And how does that differ from just being at the end of a tier in ADP? Dave, you want to talk about that? When you say, yeah, don't draft someone too close to their ceiling. Yeah, I mean, but obviously someone's got to go one-on-one and it's the player that you think

is going to be, uh, I always try and take somebody when I'm picking first, someone who could be top five overall. And like Jamar chase or Bijon Robinson could absolutely be top five overall. That's why I think they belong there. Uh, if you're in the Barkley camp, you think he can be good again, uh, 23 points per game. Good. Then yeah, you're taking him topley camp, you think he can be good again, 23 points per game good, then yeah, you're taking him top five or top pick overall, no questions asked. It's basically a game of value and you're looking for players that have outperformed their ADP. And if you see somebody that you think can outperform where you're getting them in the

draft, you're probably not drafting them too close to their ceiling, but sometimes hype will drive up a player's value. How about this as an example? We've talked about Ashton Gentile a lot. We've raced to put them in the first round. Obviously he's never played it down in the NFL. He is a man. He's he is a brick house.

He is ready to go into the league. Should be able to do a lot of the things that he did in college and then some. But he hasn't done it yet. He's not on a great team. He should be able to do a lot of the things that he did in college and then some, but he hasn't done it yet. He's not on a great team. I don't know if the Raiders are even going to be top 15 in points per game this year. Are we taking him too close to the ceiling if he's a first round pick? I mean, I don't, I think if you take him in the top five, probably, once you get past

a certain group of players, you know, then then you could argue that for anyone. Right. Right. But I admit six. I'm I think it's a mistake. I think that's too close to the ceiling. But who's but who has a better case to be six? Right.

That's the problem. Right. It's now you have to find someone who you're not drafting at their ceiling. If you put him six, who would that be for you? A CD lamb. Oh yeah. Okay. Okay. Jameer Gibbs. Someone, here's an example.

We get out of the first round, someone in our draft drafted Jameson Williams in the third round in a PPR league. And he might have a great year. It's really hard to see him finishing as a top 12 receiver in a PPR league. So even if you like him, that's just drafting someone at their ceiling.

Devante, Dave, you know, I'd have to say, I don't know that this was a bad pick because it's just wide receivers were flying off the board. You took Devante Adams 35th overall. Not close to a ceiling. No? We've seen him finish as a top, obviously the top receiver in fantasy before, but that's a long time ago. Where did he finish on a per game

basis last year? Probably around this. I've got him wide receiver 11. Yeah, I've got him at 10. And I don't want to draft him as the 10th receiver off the bull, but I can't rule out that he finishes between 10th and 15th among receivers on a PPR per game basis. In the Rams offense, playing in the slot, red zone threat, still moving well, Stafford's healthy. I know Devante breaks the rule as far as age goes, but I still think he's got it. And he was fourth at his position in targets per game last year. I don't think that falls off a cliff. He was 12th per game. Where Alan Robinson went to the Rams and it took me one game to go,

oh no, this isn't going to work. I think Adams is going to be worth that round three pick. But I think a lot of people are going to get him in round four because people are worried about him falling off the age cliff. Okay. Yeah, you took him as wide receiver 16, he was wide receiver 12 last year. Right. Being wide receiver 12 with the fourth most targets

at the position is the most encouraging thing, but okay, so you don't agree with me there. But all right, hopefully we've answered that question. And we'll go on to our next one. And this is from Davin. Davin has a very derogatory nickname for Kam Scataboo. He's calling him Kam Scatapoo. And Jamie Davin says,

how come all the fantasy analysts love this guy? All I see in here is Kam Scatapoo this, Scatapoo that. Why the disconnect between fantasy and real nfl teams I guess the disconnect would be what where he was drafted Yeah, I think so usually round four picks do not they do almost nothing as rookies, uh, and so This is what he's talking about. I guess so I guess the the question would be probably better served for somebody who has scadaboo

ranked ahead of Tracy. I don't know if any of us do. There's an easy path to him having success though, because Tracy did some good things last year on a bad Giants team. I think he's got a chance to be better with the Giants being a better team this year, especially better quarterback play. But it's not like he's an established collegiate star, an established rook coming off an established rookie season. He could just be a guy and Scadaboo may be just a better guy. So I don't think he's an

elite talent. I don't think he's got the chance to be an elite fantasy running back, but he certainly has a chance to be in that top 30, 24-ish range of a number two running back if he's better than Tracy and gets that volume. So I'm not overexcited about Kim Skata-Boo by any stretch, but I do think there's an opportunity for him to be drafted as a hopefully fourth running back on your team and, you know, could eventually work into your starting rotation if he ends up being the starting guy for the Giants. I think a lot of it also has to do with the fact that so many people came into this draft

thinking this could be an historically great running back class. And so there are more running backs that got drafted later that we are excited about. And there were some pretty good, maybe even great fantasy performances from fourth round rookie running backs last year As Bucky Irving last year Bucky Irving was it was a fourth rounder Isaac. Arendo had a good little run for a few games Tracy a lot of people were excited about Ray Davis coming into last year who was a fourth round pick and had a much better Running back in front of him Yeah, all right

Thank You, Davin be nice to scam cataboucs cam scatter. We. All right. Thank you, Davin. Be nice to him. Cam scattered into anything to you. So chill there. This is from one of our oldest fans, Joe. Where's he from Dave? He's one of our oldest fans. He's from the Tolotine Center in Olympia Fields, Illinois.

That's an old folks home. You know, people. Yeah, I'm not drafting anybody in their eighties or their nineties in fantasy this year. I don't know why I'm reading this. You just said you liked the Monty Adams though. That's true. He's not his eighties, Jamie. 32.

NFL years. Johnny Earpoo, by the way, was just commenting in the chat, says, I stand corrected on my round four rookie running back take. No, I don't. Most rookie running backs drafted on day I don't. Most rookie running backs drafted on day three do nothing. Most rookie running backs drafted, honestly, in round two, round three, round three or

later do very little. And round two or later usually takes at least a few weeks. I don't know if I should read this email, but I might as well. I definitely don't think you should. Well, I'm not going to read the name that he put, but Joe, I like this because Joe, who says, dear Terry Benjamin. Oh, he said something good about you after the inappropriate comment. Yeah.

I see. Terry Benjamin, Garth and Noah. Does anybody get that? Terry Benjamin, Garth and Noah. So that would be Wayne's world. He, yeah. So he says, I've been listening to the podcast as long as I can remember. So that would be Wayne's world. He, yeah. So he says, I've been listening to the podcast as long as I can remember.

And Adam relentlessly drops absolute dimes of movie quotes, well-timed and often missed. I think I'm batting a thousand on catching them all and they usually have me rolling. For God's sake, just give me the damn number. So if he says, if equating some of your favorite movies to players, who and what would you choose? My favorite movie ever is Dumb and Dumber, and I'd equate this to my continual drafting of Kyle Pitts. So I didn't really get, I don't know how to equate a movie

to a player, but I did wanna read this email because I needed it a little bit. I needed the ego boost, so thank you. You would equate Tyree Kill to Dirty Dancing. Oldie but goodie, underrated. And you know, maybe I'd equate it to like Footloose cause it had like a revival, you know? It was a remake.

So I don't know if you guys have any movies you'd like to equate to football players. If I can think about that. I like the Dirty Dancing one. Jamar Chase is the best receiver in football. So Jerry Maguire would be that. The best love story. Yeah, I get it.

And you love Jamar Chase. All right. If you think about anything, emails already served its purpose. You got to say that somebody said something nice about you in an email. Thank you, I needed it. All right, this is from Chris in Portland, Oregon. With the explosion of best ball over the last few years, I'm wondering if we can get more content about best ball,

especially at this time of year when it's predominantly best ball and dynasty drafts going on. And secondary question, I'll come back to the secondary question. Why don't we read best ball or Heath, why don't you give us some best ball advice? Well, I'm pretty much covering it. He said it's all best ball and dynasty drafts this time of year. I'm pretty much stake my claim on the dynasty side of that equation. So I've

I took a pretty big step back from the best ball that I used to do. I think, I think Jamie might be our best ball draft or no. I've done two already. Uh, and it was funny. I did one the night before, uh, this was on underdog. I did one the night before the George Pickens, uh, trade. And I did a, I dropped to see the lamb in round one. So I did a Cowboy stack and got Dak relatively late. I did just part of this draft, like a Brown stack as well. You could do that so cheap, because if you're going to buy into Flaco, it's like the two that I've done so far, I've gotten Flaco late. And both these drafts I've done with Nijoku and Judy shares.

And the reason I bring that up is that's just an easy way to try and maximize your success is getting these stacks of players. It's really the only format I think you really want to go heavy with stacks. There's so many creative ways to do it now with how these quarterbacks are performing. You don't have to necessarily invest in the early quarterbacks, taking the quarterbacks early. We can certainly spend more time about it when you want to plan this out. But yes, there should be more best ball content that we discuss here as well. Yeah. And did I tell you guys my best ball story about how I prematurely claimed victory

last year? No. Yeah, we were talking, it was week 18. It was like Tuesday of week 18 and fantasy championships had just wrapped up. And we were talking, oh, how did we do this and that? And I was like, oh yeah, I won this league. I was in the Flex League.

Yeah, and I was like, yeah, and I won the 14 team best ball Flex League with all these industry experts. That league went through week 18. But I won it anyway. But it was close. It was close. But I prematurely claimed victory on that.

But that was really stupid to me. All right. The second question was outside of the top 100 picks, which running back in a best case scenario could you see pushing for a top 12 finish? Wow. With injury or without injury?

I guess you could give one of each. I'll give you one without injury, but a guy missing Ray Davis. Oh, with the holdout. Yep. Uh, top 100 picks. That's a lot of picks, man. Jaden Blue. It would have to be Jaden Blue and not injury.

It's the only thing I can think of. Where's Javante at? He's in the top 100. Well, especially after yesterday, Dave drove his price up to around five. No. He went in round eight in our latest pick. I can look at the consensus rankings, but I think he's, I think he's like 90th ish.

Garendo, Mason, Tooten, Davis. Mason's a good one if he's that late. I think Tooten's passed Bigsby already and may pass ETN soon. So, Javante, I'm sorry, Heath, Javante is 114th in the consensus rankings right now. I was just looking at our, there's the answer. Yeah. All right. There's a lot, you know, this position has gotten so much depth to it this year. It may not be great depth. We'll find that out. The season goes on, but you know, with this draft class and pushing some of these guys down, like they're still going to be great value for, and it's not in this range, but Ramon, Dre

may still end up being valuable. Uh, Rashad white may still have being valuable. Um, Najee Harris may still have being valid. Like these guys all got pushed down because of the draft picks and, or, you know, you know, players that have passed them on the depth chart, but they're still going to have some, some pretty prominent roles and may surprise us. Unfortunately, if we're all JK Dobbins has to do is find somewhere decent. And he might half a year or show up. Must start production chub too. He's got to be right. You've got to see that first.

Anybody want to stay from Johnny again? Anybody want to start up a league that uses Acer stats for scoring each week, you get to cherry pick your stats to give yourself the best possible score. Everybody wins. That's awesome. All right, Thomas from Rhode Island, Dear Hershel, Russell, Deshawn, Trent and Ricky. Worst trades ever.

Hershel, Russell, Deshaun, Trent, and Ricky. They're all bad trades. So we got the Ricky Williams, Saints trade. Oh, Trent, what is the Trent Richardson trade? Trent Richardson trade. You're right. What are Russell and, what's Russell?

The Bravo. Hello, Seattle to Denver. Oh, that Russell. I was thinking running backs or whatever. And Deshaun Watson, obviously. OK, 10 team PPR Super Flex Dynasty League. We start three receivers and two flexes. I traded away a 2026 mid second round pick and Khalil Shakir for J.J. McCarthy.

Again, it's Super Flex Dynasty. And then I drafted Sam Howell with my in the 2025 draft. I guess that yeah, to protect McCarthy. What do you think about this? A plus. Love it. Cool. Agreed. This is from Andrew. Where's he from?

Boston, Mass. 10 teams, six point per passing touchdown league PPR, two wide receivers, two flex. Should I keep Jayden Daniels or Chuba Hubbard as my last round pick? How many teams? 10. 10 teams. Daniels. I agree.

Yeah, I think so. I've got Chuba ahead and 12 team, but in 10, I'd take Daniels. Yeah. If you can keep Daniels for a late pick forever, or just even if it goes up by a round or two each year, as long as there's no like strict time limit, easy answer. Daniel's. All right. This is from Mike Sanda in Warwick, Rhode Island.

Ooh, we're getting into some semantics here. Subject ADP. Should we use higher and lower or earlier and later when discussing? So he was saying that the only way to be clear is to use, I think he was saying to use earlier or later. Do you think it gets confusing if you say someone has a higher or lower ADP?

No, but earlier or later does make more sense. So if I said to you, Jamie, player A has a higher ADP than player B, which one is being drafted first? Player A. So a higher ADP means a lower number. Right. I would have said player B.

I don't think it's confusing for people who have obviously discussed this for a long time, but to his point earlier and later does make more sense. Have we been using higher and lower? I think what I was saying, I responded, this was a thread on Twitter. I responded to it. I did say that we do use risers and fallers and that feels very obvious to me. Like if your ADP is rising, that means you're going earlier in drafts. But then I thought about it,

I was like, well, maybe we should just keep using earlier and later. Heath, I feel like you have a lot to say about this. Right. I see the look on your face. I have said it. It could be a little confusing. I'm confused right now.

I was not confused before the hour was read. Yeah, right. I will think about it this shower. It's a good point. Okay. If I haven't recommended your friends and neighbors yet on the show, I strongly recommend it.

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