Fantasy Football Today - Free Agency/Trades: If ____ goes to the ____, then ____ (02/09 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: February 9, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  We'll give you some fun if/then... scenarios involving free agency and trades. What would the fantasy impact be if Lamar Jackson went to the Falcons (3:00) or Dalton Schultz went to the Chargers (7:05)? ... News and notes (15:55) as we talk about the Commanders quarterback situation and the Cowboys backfield. Then we've got more if/thens: David Montgomery leaves the Bears (27:05); Aaron Rodgers goes to the Jets (30:00); Jakobi Meyers goes to the Chiefs (35:40); Saquon Barkley goes to the Jaguars (39:40) ... Our listeners submit their favorite free agency if/then scenarios and we react (46:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:43 No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Taking an early look at one of the worst free agent classes ever. Hopefully, there will be some sexy trades that go down during this NFL offseason or else it might be a little bit boring. But we're going to make it fun for you here on Fantasy Football today.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Please don't turn off the podcast. I didn't sell it very well. I do have Jamie and Dan here, our Friday mailbag crew. What's up, guys? What's up? It's good to see that you're still perfecting your intros and Dan's still on the toilet. So I feel like everything's good to see that you're still perfecting your intros and dancing on the toilet. So I feel like everything's set to go.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Yes. I need to bring this camera a little closer so it looks less like I'm on a toilet. What was the other thing that someone said, Dan? Oh, you emailed it to me. I forgot. Like a high school yearbook picture? Oh, it looks like I'm in a yearbook picture. I don't know what that one is.
Starting point is 00:02:42 It's funny either way. So today's topic is if blank goes to the blank, then blank. So something like if Dan goes to the bathroom, then we must be on the air, something like that. But if Aaron Rogers goes to the Jets, then Garrett Wilson is this, you know, those types of things. Before we get into that, let's just go over some of the potential free agents. If all of these guys became free agents, it would be a great class, but obviously it's not going to happen. Lamar Jackson, Derek Carr,
Starting point is 00:03:10 Geno Smith, Daniel Jones, they could all be free agents. Josh Jacobs, they could all be free, but a lot of them, at least Jones and Smith, look like they're going to re-sign with their teams, and maybe Lamar Jackson, too. Josh Jacobs, Saquon Barkley, Tony Pollard.
Starting point is 00:03:26 We already have a report that Pollard's likely to get the franchise tag. Juju Smith-Schuster, Jacoby Myers, Odell Beckham, Michael Thomas. At tight end, you're looking at Dalton Schultz and Evan Ingram. We know Gerald Everett might not be back in Los Angeles. So there are some names and always trades that could shake things up as well. It's actually a pretty good running back for Asian class. It's just receiver is dragging everything down so much. I feel like everyone's a little sour on this class, but running backs, there's a lot of talent there.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Like who? Who do you think hits the market at running back? But that's, yeah, I think Barkley very well might hit this market. I really do have this feeling just from everything Joe Shane has said, the giant general manager, there don't seem to be budging off that number and he's going, if he hits the market, there are some teams with a lot of cap space and a quarterback on a rookie contract.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Maybe one we get to a little bit later in my if end comment that I think could offer him a deal that if you're Barkley, are you taking 4 million less just to play for the giants? I don't think that's going to be the case. All right. So let's start with an, if blank goes to the blank, then blank. We'll do a couple of these, then we'll give you some news and notes.
Starting point is 00:04:30 We'll make fun of it. I have a segment here called Making Fun of Dan. We'll do that. Then we'll get back to this game. Jamie, give me your first. If blank goes to the blank, then blank. If Lamar Jackson goes to Atlanta, which is a potential destination for him if he is set free from the Ravens, then Kyle Pitts will become a top five fantasy tight end.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Can we be a little bolder? Like, why not number three? I mean, he could be number three. He could be number one. You know, it's just I'd like to see what the rest of this team looks like. I'd like to see what happens if you have to make a trade to get him. You know what? They may have to give up,
Starting point is 00:05:05 you know, so there's a lot still at play here. So yes, he could be, you know, you want it to be bolder. He could be number three. Where would you rank him?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Lamar Jackson goes to the Falcons. Where would you rank pits? I would right now still put him behind Dallas Goddard and TJ Hawkinson, just because I think we've been a little too quick, myself included, to rush him up the flagpole and say that Kyle pits is the next great thing. And there's going to be a superstar and, you know know building off his thousand yard rookie season and getting you know maybe a quarterback upgrade or a system upgrade with you know what happened Matt Ryan leaving and
Starting point is 00:05:33 Marcus Mariota coming in etc um he just hasn't been that guy yet so you know I think there are a couple of safer options uh again Hawkinson Godd, and the top two guys of Kelsey and Andrews. If you think that that's going to unleash his upside, I'll probably get there myself if Lamar Jackson gets to Atlanta. I think third at best, but I think you can put him in the top five
Starting point is 00:05:57 again, and hopefully he lives up to it. What do you think about that, Dan? If Lamar Jackson goes to the Falcons, then Kyles will become basically tight end five maybe better i love that i love that call by jamie i i would for me i think jamie's completely right so i think it makes a lot more sense to draft hawkinson and goddard over him even if lamar jackson is traded to because i think he would have to be traded i don't think the ravens are going to play this stupid i think they're going to put the franchise
Starting point is 00:06:24 tag i've actually read they going to put the franchise tag. I've actually read. They might put the exclusive franchise tag on him, which means if the Falcons were to sign him, the Ravens get back to first round picks. But if that happens, they give us some assets. He could be the focal point of that. Him in London could be the focal point of that offense.
Starting point is 00:06:37 We still don't know if that'll be a pass first offense. So I don't want to be too bullish on the situation, but I knowing the way I draft in fantasy, I won't be taking Hawkinson and Goddard over pits because to me, those two don't have as clear path to winning you your league and to being that breakout tight end and more in the Kelsey range. So just kind of depends on how you like to draft your teams and what kind of risk factor you have,
Starting point is 00:06:59 but I can totally see him being a top five if he's traded there. I would probably put him like just thinking about it. And I'd probably put it at a daughter just because, you know there. I would probably put him, like just thinking about it now, I'd probably put him at a Goddard just because, you know, the things that we talk about, you know, number one, number two in targets, we've kind of illustrated that, that Goddard's path to doing that is much more challenging because of A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith. The reason I said, you know, see what the trade is,
Starting point is 00:07:19 like the Ravens may say we want Drake London back. You know, that could be something that happens. And I'm sure if you're Atlanta, okay, we'll take Lamar Jackson for Drake London as part of the package. But in any event, you know, just to see how it all would, would shake out. But I do think that, because I could see Hawkinson like feeling being gone from Minnesota, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:39 and I think Hawkinson is clear cut number two ahead of somebody like, like KJ Osborne. Real final question on this. If you wanted to draft, if you wanted to be high on Kyle Pitts, would you rather they sign Lamar Jackson or Derek Carr? Or trade, whatever, get Lamar Jackson or Derek Carr? Lamar Jackson. I think Lamar Jackson just because you've seen what he's been able to do
Starting point is 00:08:00 with Mark Andrews, not that Waller and Carr have been bad together in terms of the quarterback-tight end combination by any stretch. But I think there's just so much more explosiveness in that offense if Lamar Jackson's the quarterback as opposed to not knowing if Derek Carr goes to a different situation and becomes, and please don't take it one for one, but Tom Brady just steps into a different situation and becomes just as good if not better just because you're throwing so much or he becomes Matt Ryan,
Starting point is 00:08:28 Russell Wilson, where it just, you know, it's switching teams and it's just a disaster. Okay, Dan, give me your favorite. If blank goes to the blank, then blank. Yeah, this will be
Starting point is 00:08:38 a little bit surprising, I guess, if you listen to me last preseason, but I do feel this way now and I'll tell you why I came around to it. If Dalton Schultz signs with the Chargers, he's going to be a top six tight end in fantasy next year. And Dalton Schultz, the player who I came around to, I wasn't high on him last off season, but
Starting point is 00:08:54 watching him play, I do think there are little nuances in his game and the ability to find space and zones. And it's not Travis Kelsey. And I don't want to make that comparison at all, but similar in the sense that they do a good job of pivoting off their feet and then creating space. And if he goes to the Chargers, he rejoins, he, sorry, reunites with Kellen Moore, who kind of made him and turned him into the player that he is. Also, there's a chance the Chargers may be moving on from some of their weapons.
Starting point is 00:09:20 As we've seen, they're in a precarious salary cap situation. Justin Herbert's contract is coming as well. They can't really kick the can with some of these deals like Keenan Allen and Gerald Everett might also walk. This also is dependent, of course, on Gerald Everett walking. But if they do sign Dalton Schultz, I think Gerald Everett will walk. So I think there's a really good opportunity for him to be a very heavy target player with a quarterback who can get him the football for sure. And an offensive coordinator who knows how to best utilize him. Jamie, your thoughts?
Starting point is 00:09:48 If Dalton Schultz goes to the Chargers, then Schultz will be a top six tight end in fantasy. I think we've kind of talked about this a little bit, I believe it was Monday's show, in terms of not just Gerald Everett, but Keenan Allen leaving also. If both those guys are gone, then you're looking at a lot of vacated targets
Starting point is 00:10:04 for an offense that I think is still going to be very successful throwing the ball. Just going to have to figure out who the parts are. So for me, you know, one of mine for this exercise also was Mike Gusecki just piggybacking off what I said on Monday. I think if they can find a playmaking tight end, I think it's going to be great. As Dan illustrated, you know, Kellen Moore seems to like utilizing that position. I think Justin Herbert has shown he likes utilizing that position.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And so if you're talking about not, to me, it's more about if Keenan Allen's gone. Because if Keenan Allen is gone, then there's just such a wide open opportunity to feature somebody else. And so it could be Josh Palmer. It could be Schultz. It could be Gusecki. It could be, you know, a rookie that they draft. You know, they have to find some way to be creative because Mike Williams is not going to carry the passing game by himself. So if most importantly Keenan Allen is not there, any type of splash,
Starting point is 00:10:52 and I know Dalton Schultz, Mike Gusecki, these aren't splashing names, but they're certainly significant players in this opportunity if they get it. And so any of these type of guys, Schultz would have much more upside than Gusecki just based on what we've seen. But any free agent tight end going there with a departure of Allen, most importantly, but Gerald Everett on top of it would be great. Yeah, and we're talking a lot
Starting point is 00:11:12 about tight ends here, so we might as well stick to that theme. And Jamie already mentioned it, that we always allude to top five tight ends almost always are one or two on their team and targets. That did not really hold up as much this year. There were two tight ends who finished in the top five this year
Starting point is 00:11:29 who were not top two on their team in targets. So Hawkinson, I'm going to say he was because he basically was with both Detroit and Minnesota. So he's a little tricky, but he was. But Kittle was not. He was tight end three overall. And Ingram was not. He was tight end three overall, and Ingram was not. He was tight end five overall.
Starting point is 00:11:47 But I think in the previous four years, there may have been only one tight end that finished top five without being one or two on his team in targets, and it was Robert Tunyon, who was very close. So anyway, that is something that didn't quite hold up as much this year, but still I'm going to look for. So I would push back on what you said, Dan,
Starting point is 00:12:05 and say it would have to be a departure of Keenan Allen or Mike Williams. That's my thought is maybe he could be six, but I don't think Schultz would make a huge impact if he were on a team with Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. It does seem like they want to run the ball a little bit more based on public comments. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, like Schultz is good, but I don't know that he's good enough if he's third on
Starting point is 00:12:28 the team and targets to really be a big difference maker. That'd be the counter to it. And I think that's fair. It does is dependent on him somewhat taking over what the role that Keenan Allen has in that short to intermediate range, the third down role. But I think ultimately what we could see while they will lean more heavily on the run, like they've said they want to do part of that to me is just them saying that because they want to establish more of a run game so they can run more play action, five steps, seven step
Starting point is 00:12:53 drop shot plays, which will actually work better in Keaton Dalton Schultz's favor. Cause that those help the tight end in the middle of the field to create kind of more of those explosive plays. So I just thinking about how that offense is going to evolve with Justin Herbert next year, how they kind of want to go away from the Lombardi quick hitting short passing game into more of an intermediate passing game. I think that could really help a tight end. And I think how more could get a lot out of him, but I do agree if he's third on the totem pole there and targets,
Starting point is 00:13:18 it's going to be harder for him to get to that range. But to be fair though, and, and this is factoring in clearly the different personnel, this system is coming from a place where Dalton Schultz was a successful fantasy tight end two years ago with Amari Cooper and C.D. Lambert. So he still was able to not necessarily dominate targets and may not dominate targets if there is a Keenan Allen and Mike Williams.
Starting point is 00:13:45 But Kellen Moore's system, and obviously i haven't taken into account you know how the head coach is going to feel about maybe trying to you know make more of an imprint on the run game but you know if they are throwing the ball to the same level and justin herbert's commanding the offense like you should then there still should be enough targets for dalton schultz while he may not lead the team like a dallas goddard situation where you're still going to feel pretty good about this type of player in the system. Yeah, that's what it comes down to. Like, can you see a range, Adam, where I know you were high on him before the year,
Starting point is 00:14:12 and I think a lot of factors played a role in his kind of somewhat down season, Justin Herbert, losing his left tackle, losing his right tackle, getting to a third string center at some point, Joe Lombardi's OC, but can you see a world where this offense takes off with kellen moore they're healthier and now he's throwing for like 5 000 like burrow and mahomes and then there's a lot of yards to go around well look right like let's it's not even that hard right let's look at dallas in 2021 dak press got through for just under well the team because cooper rush played a little bit that year too uh dak missed a game, I guess. But the team threw for almost 5,000 yards, 40 touchdowns, 11 interceptions. You had
Starting point is 00:14:49 CeeDee Lamb with 1,100 yards and six touchdowns. You had Amari Cooper with 865 yards and eight touchdowns. You had Schultz with 808 and eight touchdowns. So yeah, yes, I can see it. That year, 2021, Dalton Schultz was tied for second on the Cowboys with 104 targets.
Starting point is 00:15:06 So he did finish top two in targets. He did meet that criteria. He was number five per game. He was number three overall. And number three overall tight end. Look at these numbers. I mean, they don't really jump out at you, right? 808 yards, 78 catches, 808 yards,
Starting point is 00:15:19 and eight touchdowns on 104 targets in 17 games. That made him the number three overall tight end in fantasy in 2021. But that's more like number six. I mean, that's, that's, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Number five per game and, yeah, number three overall. All right, let me tell you about the CBS Sports app,
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Starting point is 00:16:09 way to keep your finger on the pulse of every game that matters. Check out the CBS Sports app. Time now to make fun of Dan. Jamie, you've been making fun of Dan off the air for being late to our mock draft yesterday. And he was three minutes late to today's show as well two minutes late to today now you're three minutes late but i would like to share a text message i got from dan uh the other day he was on our tuesday show and oh no he said wait a second where he said god this can only go in one direction and it's not good for me. This came at 10.05 a.m. Am I in the right stream? No one else is here yet. And I wrote, 11 a.m., buddy. He was an hour, he was 55 minutes early to a podcast.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Did not read the schedule right. I was on Tom Coughlin time for that day. I also saw in Slack that he sent a message to our fantasy group that he has to jump off or he can't be doing his content work because he had to be in the podcast at 10 a.m., to which Dave replied, you scared me. I thought it was 10 a.m.
Starting point is 00:17:19 So he fooled Dave as well. That is true. Oh, man. All right. Let's do the news and notes here. See what we got. Yeah, there's some. Sam Howell is going to enter the offseason as Washington's number one quarterback.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Wow. Does anyone think there's a realistic chance that Sam Howell starts the season as their quarterback? That's interesting. Yeah. I mean, look what they have. know i mean it's i did see uh somebody i guess there was a commentator in washington say that you've been trying to bench taylor heineke for two years and every time he plays he saves your ass ron rivera um that you know between heineke wins and howell let them compete you know let them compete see what
Starting point is 00:18:03 happens and you know you know you have have options if you have to you know go go a different and Howell, let them compete. Let them compete. See what happens. You know you have options if you have to go a different direction. If those are the three quarterbacks on the roster to start the season, I think that Howell has a very good chance of starting because I think it's in their best interest. I felt like he should have been a round three pick. I was very surprised that
Starting point is 00:18:20 Sam Howell fell to round five. Usually when you take those round five guys, they have no arm talent. They can't throw the passes outside the numbers, Sam Howell fell to round five. I thought usually when those, when you take those round five guys, they have no arm talent and they can't throw the passes outside the numbers, but Howell actually can, and he has a pretty good arm and he can run a little. So I'm actually intrigued to see if they give him a shot, but Washington strikes me as a team. That's going to make a big move for a quarterback this off season. I'm not quite sure yet, which one I've actually seen some Lamar Jackson to Washington rumors. Have you guys seen any of that? And that would intrigue me. It's not too far of a move for him from Baltimore to Washington.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And I think they would be the type of team to make that move, but that's obviously, you know, a little bit more speculative. Uh, I'm sure they would probably love to get into the conversation, but you know, I don't,
Starting point is 00:18:58 I think if they're going to try and acquire another quarterback again, it's probably going to be in the Garoppolo, Carr, Jameis Winston type of guy. Well, that's not exciting. Exactly. So I think if they're going that route again, then you might as well just see what Sam Howell has. Because clearly, if they don't win, Ron Rivera's most likely going to lose his job. And for a franchise that's got so much in flux with ownership
Starting point is 00:19:26 and all those things that are going on there, it almost feels like a reset is coming. Now, clearly, the offense coordinator is going to matter, which they don't have one yet. So we'll see what happens there in terms of who that person wants to put under center. Derek Carr was like the fifth Pro Bowl alternate, okay? He made the Pro Bowl last year.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I feel like we have a secret man crush on Derek Carr. Every time we say something slightly negative about Derek Carr, it's not like nobody's trashing him. But you come to his defense all the time. Well, I think it did just kind of trash him. You just said if it comes down to Sam Howell, Taylor Heineke, and Carson Wentz or Derek Carr, you might as well go with the Heineke-Wentz-Howell trio.
Starting point is 00:20:06 No, but Jamie's talking about this 30,000-foot view. He's saying if you're in the position that that franchise is in, why are you investing in a Derek Carr? Right, they tried this already for the last couple years. But Carr is better than Wentz. Okay, yes, that's not the point he's trying to make. He makes them better. He makes them better instantly.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Unless he is free and you have to sign him without overpaying him. I mean, look, they gave him two second round picks to get Carson Wentz. How's that working out for him? No, you don't – but he – there's a decent – there's a pretty solid chance that Derek Carr will be a free agent. Even if he is a free agent, then you need to sign him for a one-year deal, Adam, to avoid what Jamie's discussing. And even in that scenario, what is that even getting you? And there is very little chance that Derek Carr is going to Washington
Starting point is 00:20:48 on a one year deal. But I think, you know, as you guys obviously know the NFC East, does Derek Carr make Washington a playoff contender in that division? Not to me. Yes. They were a playoff contender this year. Contender for, okay.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Contender, sure. Everyone's a playoff contender this year. Okay, contender for, okay, contender, sure. Everyone's a playoff contender. Does that make them a Super Bowl contender? No. That's the question. There it is. No, but I can tell you. So why go that route? Because, Dan, how exciting was it this year for Giants fans?
Starting point is 00:21:18 We were in Super Bowl contenders, but we were tired of being crappy. That's a different scenario. We were tired of being bad. It was nice to be exciting. That's a different scenario. We were tired of being bad. It was nice to be exciting. That's a different scenario. The Giants were crappy. You think Washington with Derek Carr is a team that could make a run in the playoffs? No, I think Washington with Derek Carr could be as good as the Giants were this year.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Okay, but that's not the point. Look, the point James is trying to make is you have a situation where this franchise is in flux. They're going to try to find a new owner at some point pretty soon. Do you want to sell that owner that we just re-signed Derek Carr for three or four years and you're inheriting that? Or do you want to say we have a clean slate, we played Sam Howell, now you get to do that, you get to kind of
Starting point is 00:21:53 craft this franchise how you want at the quarterback position. That's fine. I just want to make it clear that he's an upgrade over the three guys. Sure, he's a short-term upgrade. Obviously he's an upgrade over them. So is Garoppolo. So is probably Jameis Winston. I mean, there are lots of guys that are upgrades over what they have,
Starting point is 00:22:09 but they've been trying to put a Band-Aid on this now for the last several years as opposed to let's invest in either a young guy, whether you believe in Sam Howell or not, to see what he has for a season or the majority of a season, or do you go out and put another Band-Aid on it? Derek Carr is not the long-term answer.
Starting point is 00:22:25 No, no. Yeah, that's true. And they're not one solid quarterback away from being a true contender. I get that. I interpreted it as he's not that big of an upgrade, but I guess we're all on the same page. No, and if we're playing it like a fantasy team, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I'd much rather have Derek Carr than the guys that they have. You're playing this as what's going to get us to where we want to eventually get to, you know, to be a Super Bowl team. It's not signing Derek Carr. Yeah, but that's a tough sell for Ron Rivera because you know he's out, basically. You don't know it, but good chance he's out
Starting point is 00:22:54 if they go with Howell or whatever and have another bad year. So there is that competing question. Unless you get the right coordinator in place and he has a Daniel Jones type of season. Not that he's going to do that, but you know, I mean, he takes a big step forward. Brock Purdy's going to have elbow surgery, but expected
Starting point is 00:23:09 most time we ever spent on an NFC East team, aside from the Giants. Are you kidding? I've been spending a lot of time with the Eagles lately. Brock Purdy's going to have elbow surgery, but expected to be ready for training camp. But, you know, we'll see how that goes. It could be, it's a real big opportunity for Trey Lance, obviously,
Starting point is 00:23:25 from now until then. Tony Pollard expected to receive the franchise tag, and also Dallas could keep Ezekiel Elliott. I mean, running it back with those two guys again, would there be any question about, Jamie, who would be drafted first, Pollard or Zeke? Oh, it's definitely Pollard. It's not even close.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I think Zeke staying there, it's definitely Pollard. It's not even close. I think Zeke staying there saves his fantasy value because if he goes to the market, you're talking about the Melvin Gordon path. Just think about what's going on with that type of guy. I think
Starting point is 00:23:59 if you have Zeke in a dynasty league or a long-term keeper league and you're hoping he can still have some fantasy value, staying in Dallas is the best case for him because that ownership group clearly, but the coaching staff as well, is going to still give him opportunities to get work and probably touchdowns. But clearly, if you watch the last two seasons, Tony Pollard is the best running back in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Okay, so let's say they bring them both back. Real quick, guys, just give me a round for Tony Pollard. Healthy by training camp. Yep. I think he goes no later than round four. Yeah, I would say no later than round four. And I think we'll see him much higher than that when, when it all rolls around,
Starting point is 00:24:36 there's going to be a lot of hype around him. There's a lot of people in, and the thing that's interesting is a lot of people will assume this is a year he does take over the role, but I'm not so sure if they bring Zeke back, like if they restructure that deal to a point where they're like all right we can accept this how much of a how much of an upgrade in the role do you think will will come jamie and adam because i'm not certain we're going to see too much different than what we saw this year for pollard you mean for pollard right because i still we would want
Starting point is 00:25:03 him obviously over zeke but it's like if you're going to get him pushed all the way into round three where I think he could come he needs to have a much he needs to have a bigger share than he had this year I think uh I I would agree with that I don't know much bigger but but probably you know the touchdown opportunities were really a big part of this I I also think you got to take into account you know two years ago Zeke played through what was probably more than a minor knee injury. Last year, he sat out two games with an injury.
Starting point is 00:25:31 He's getting to that point in his career where he might not be able to fight through those type of things. If that missed time becomes two games to five games to maybe more, we saw what Pollard was capable of doing in that stretch. He was a monster. I still would be comfortable with him in round three, be a little bit tough.
Starting point is 00:25:54 But, you know, round four is probably the beginning where I start to look for one final thing on that. I remember last. Sorry, just real quick. Give me a number, guys. One final nugget. Last offseason, a lot of us discussed the zeke situation we were like remember he's playing through that injury last year now that now they say he's looking fresh in camp things are going to be good and a lot of people use that as a way to kind of get in on zeke as maybe a buy low but
Starting point is 00:26:15 i think it's maybe a good lesson for us long term when we get these running backs who are up there in age and carries and tread don't buy into the hype of the good you know the good training camp the good preseason coming off the injury using that as an excuse because when they get to that point we're starting to see more studies that show like after the age of 26 these guys are just falling off in productivity well it's also when there's a young player that has shown you something to be but you know like so just to flip that to let's say say, the Chargers, where you could get maybe, you know, to Adam's point, they want to run the ball more. And Eckler's now entering, I think, age 28 season.
Starting point is 00:26:51 You know, they have an Isaiah Spiller who may have a strong camp or something along those lines. You know, or Joshua Kelly does something, you know, whatever the case may be. That I don't think is the same because we haven't seen it from those guys yet. You know, we've seen Tony Pollard look like Tony Pollard. You know, so a little bit different situation. All right, and the Chiefs seem to be getting pretty healthy ahead of the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Patrick Mahomes practicing in full. That doesn't mean he's fully healthy, but that's good. Juju Smith-Schuster practicing in full. Kadarius Toney apparently running around like crazy. So big preview tomorrow with some player props that we like. We'll take a break, and when we come back, if blank goes to the blank, then blank. If Fantasy Football Today goes to the commercial,
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Starting point is 00:28:09 If blank goes to the blank, then blank. It's not if blank goes to the blank, it's if blank leaves the blank. So if David Montgomery leaves the Bears, Khalil Herbert will be a top 20 fantasy running back if he's the only guy there in Chicago, the main guy there in Chicago. Okay, I mean, I think you, you know, if he's the only guy there in Chicago. The main guy there in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Okay. I mean, I think you, you know, if David Montgomery goes to another team, eh, fine. All right, Khalil Herbert, would you, in that scenario, David Montgomery's gone, Khalil Herbert's a starting running back, Tony Pollard and Zeke are both back in Dallas. Tony Pollard or Khalil Herbert? Oh, it's still Pollard. But, you know, I would certainly say Khalil Herbert over Ezekiel Elliott.
Starting point is 00:28:46 He's not going to be the only guy there. That's why I tried to rephrase that. I shouldn't have said it that way in the beginning. It's going to depend on who's in the backfield with them. They have a lot of draft picks from the moves that they've made, so is running back a clear priority for them when they have to fix the offensive line and add some guys on defense and obviously some receiving options?
Starting point is 00:29:03 So that's a big, you know, a lot of holes to fill for, for an offense that is hopefully going to build around Justin Fields as a, as opposed to replacing him. So, you know, that the quarterback is going to run a lot, but we saw a lot of production from, from both running backs at times last season. I think Herbert could be more explosive than David Montgomery. I think there's a lot to like about Kula Herbert's game. And so if he's the lead guy there and, you know, at least a 60-40 situation, he's going to be, like I said, a borderline top 20 guy, somebody you start to look for around six, I think, depending on format. But again, it's going to depend on who he's sharing the backfield with.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Oh, wow. That was actually a little bit less optimistic than I thought because when we've seen Montgomery out the last couple years, Herbert has had huge workloads. He's done very well with it. And he's shown explosiveness, you know? But he didn't share. He didn't share.
Starting point is 00:29:53 But if he... I think he did share a little bit in these games. I'm not sure. Maybe not. A little bit. I mean, look, nobody gets 100% of the touches. But if we're talking about them bringing in a day two running back, then you've got to be concerned about Khalil Herbert.
Starting point is 00:30:11 If they go and sign a – obviously not a Jacobs-type player or Barkley-type, but if they sign a better-than-Alexander-Madison type of guy, like someone like that. So not necessarily someone you could see coming in that could take the job, but someone that's going to come in and sort of supplement it. A Boston Scott, for example,
Starting point is 00:30:29 let's say they bring in Boston Scott as the compliment, then I'm very excited about Khalil Herbert. Right, that'd be great, right? Yeah, like a Jeff Wilson. Right, you know, so, but if it's, you know, Thomas joked around in our draft yesterday that Madison's going to the Ravens, but if it's Madison to the Bears
Starting point is 00:30:43 and it's Madison and Herbert competing for the job, how can you trust Khalil Herbert being the better of the two guys there until you see it? Or until you get word that he's the guy. So that's what I'm saying. It's got to be better than a 60-40 situation. So if it's a 60-40 situation,
Starting point is 00:30:55 I think he's around six pick. If it's a 80-20 situation, then yes, he's in that Tony Pollard range for sure. All right, Dan. If blank goes to the blank, then blank. If the Jets trade for Aaron Rodgers, then we know Woody Johnson, their owner. Come on.
Starting point is 00:31:12 If Aaron Rodgers goes to the Jets. If Aaron Rodgers goes to the Jets. Garrett Wilson will be a top 10 fantasy wide receiver, and Elijah Moore will be a top 24 fantasy wide receiver. And my case for them is this. I watched a lot of Aaron Rodgers tape last year. And the big thing is in the beginning part of the year, he did not trust those receivers.
Starting point is 00:31:33 He did not trust those receivers on some of those double moves, on the longer routes and some of the intermediate stuff. Toward the end of the year, he found trust with one receiver. And it was Christian Watson. And he found trust with him because he's damn good at wide receiver and damn good at getting open Garrett Wilson and Eli Moore, two talents that I believe in. I think Garrett Wilson doesn't profile similarly,
Starting point is 00:31:52 but has some similarities in his game to what Devante Adams does with, uh, but the specifically talking about his footwork and his ability to create separation off the line of scrimmage with his feet. And I think that would translate great with Aaron Rogers. Who's looking to find a receiver who can get open early. So Garrett Wilson is a guy who gets most of the targets, but then Eli Moore, a talent who's been, my opinion, just buried by this horrific quarterback play for New York. He becomes somebody who you can rely on as a wide receiver
Starting point is 00:32:15 to have some explosive games, overall finishes in that range. And I just really think what's happened there in New York is they've been held back. We've seen such bad quarterback play that any upgrade would be big. So even if Derek Carr is the player and not Aaron Rodgers, I still think Garrett Wilson has probably a little bit more top 15 range and more maybe top 30, but both players on the radar with any kind of quarterback upgrade. What if it's Garoppolo? That's a bad question for me because I think Jimmy Garoppolo
Starting point is 00:32:43 is a terrible quarterback who is just completely a product of Kyle Shanahan system. Anyone's better than Zach Wilson. Is he better than Mike white? That's where I start to question it. And then I know people will think go crazy that, so I want to make it clear. He is better than Mike white,
Starting point is 00:32:58 but I don't know that he's so much better than Mike white out of the Shanahan system. All of what Garoppolo did was just get rid of the football quickly. He had like the shortest time to throw. I saw last season before this one, when he played most of the season, he's a one read quarterback. For me,
Starting point is 00:33:11 it's, it's a no go with Garoppolo. I won't get too excited with him. Cause it feels as if once Rogers comes out of his four days in a dark, he's going to end up as a member of the Raiders. Everyone thinks that, yep. You know,
Starting point is 00:33:24 based on everything that you're hearing. And so if he's a member of the Raiders. Everyone thinks that, yep. You know, based on everything that you're hearing. And so if he's a member of the Raiders, what do the Jets do? Carr. But, you know, whenever you start to see, before he's traded and making visits, New Orleans feels like a destination for Derek Carr because of the Dennis Allen connection. So, you know, you start to connect the dots.
Starting point is 00:33:43 The Jets, knowing that Robert Sala's got a relationship with Jimmy Garoppolo to whatever extent, feels like he could be headed there. You know, and so do they go the Baker Mayfield route? You know, do they go, you know, back into the... You can't go that route. Huh? You can't go that route.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Or at least if they go that route, I won't be buying in on Garrett Wilson. That's the thing. To me, it's like the Jets almost might get shut out. I think Derek Carr would be a great fallback option. There you go, Adam. There's your car price. Derek Carr would be a great fallback option
Starting point is 00:34:14 to the Jets since you think that if he went to Washington, they'd be the next best team. Yeah, there he is. Putting words in my mouth. It was only a matter of time. You did send us with the if-then examples. If their car goes to any team, they become a Super Bowl player. That's right.
Starting point is 00:34:30 It's true. And he said it was based on what he saw at this Pro Bowl skills competition. That's right. Right. Just alternate. No, I'm with you, Dan. I think they definitely need some significant quarterback upgrade to make these guys as potentially good as they could be.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And you two as Giants fans should take a lesson that just because some significant quarterback upgrade to make these guys as potentially good as they could be. And, and you two as giants fans should take a lesson that just because there might be a malcontent in the locker room, if the town is there, you try to work through it. The giants getting rid of Cadareous, Tony, the jets working through the Elijah Moore situation.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I'm perfectly fine with the giants getting rid of Cadareous, Tony. He's not going to play. Yeah. He played one snap last week and got injured. I mean, who wants that? Let's have that conversation Sunday night.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Let's see if he can play a full game. I think we've overrated his production on the Chiefs just a little bit. You know, I mean, he barely plays. He's been good on a per-snap basis, but it's not like they're giving him a ton of snaps or anything. It's also the same Kedarious Tony he was with the Giants. Every time he gets the football, it's a design touch. He's not running the routes there.
Starting point is 00:35:24 He's not really running their offense, just like he went with the Giants. Let's see gets the football, it's a design touch. He's not running the routes there. He's not really running their offense, just like he went with the Giants. Let's see what happens with him, and if he can stay on the field. But yes, as you can tell, I am bitter about the situation. By the way, I'm working on a stat here. Oh, boy. I mean, this is crazy, if this were true.
Starting point is 00:35:41 There were three games where Brees Hall was really given the work. Weeks four, five, six, he had 17, 18, and 20 carries in those games. The first three games he had six, seven, and eight carries. And then he got hurt in week seven. In those three games, it seems like the Jets averaged about 27 running back carries per game. All quarterbacked by Zach Wilson, by the way. In the other 14 games they played, it seems like the Jets averaged 18.4 running back carries per game. So that is nine more per game when Brees Hall was, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:15 treated as the starting running back. That's another angle that's worth looking at. Unfortunately, those were Zach Wilson games. We know they were much more willing to throw when it wasn't Zach Wilson. But how run heavy will they be? Because Rodgers was on a team that was... Rodgers' average pass attempts were way down this year. Not way down from the last two years,
Starting point is 00:36:34 but way down from previous years. Like 32 pass attempts per game, something like that. So something to keep in mind if you're thinking about Elijah Moore, if you're thinking about other options in that passing game. All right. You know what, Jamie? Why don't we talk about your Jacoby Myers prediction, since we've sort of talked about similar topics here,
Starting point is 00:36:53 guys like Elijah Moore. We talked about Kadarius Toney. Give me your if-then for Jacoby Myers. If Jacoby Myers goes to the Chiefs, then he will be a top-20 fantasy receiver in PPR. Well, I like that. Juju Smith-Schuster did not pull that off this year, so why do you think
Starting point is 00:37:09 Jacoby Myers would? So, Juju did not have a great season. I don't know how much Juju has just washed up in your phrasing. And part of it, though, I think with Juju, and it kind of brings up Kadarius Toney, this is a very complicated offense to learn.
Starting point is 00:37:28 And Juju felt like he was just starting to get going before the concussion in Jacksonville. And then just really everything fell apart for him since then, you know? So I'm hopeful he could have a strong finish. I'm thankful for him, you know, that he got his incentives by making the Superbowl. If they win the Superbowl, he gets, I think, up to $5 million in incentives. So, you know, he ended up with a decent payday despite taking a one-year deal because things worked out for him.
Starting point is 00:37:47 But I just don't know how much of this is on Juju. And to me, Jacoby Myers feels like if he ends up in the right situation, he could be Christian Kirk this year. An underrated guy that ends up being a very good fantasy asset because he's had some good numbers in New England. You know, he hasn't necessarily had the greatest quarterback play post Tom Brady. You know, he's had some good moments with the Cam Newton situation, you know, in year one, and then some good numbers with Mac Jones at times.
Starting point is 00:38:16 But he's never really been a featured part of a good offense. And I don't know if he has that height, that type of ceiling, but I'd like to see it happen with a great quarterback. And we know the Chiefs receiving core. Juju's on a one-year deal. Hardman's a free agent. They have young guys in Kadarius Toney and Sky Moore. Who knows if they decide to move on from Marcos Valdez-Scantling.
Starting point is 00:38:36 So there's plenty of opportunities there if, in fact, they decide to go get someone. And I think Jacoby Myers is a good enough player in that situation where his fantasy numbers could pop. Yeah, he actually averaged more points per game than Juju Smith-Schuster this year, which is wild. And it's kind of hard to explain this late season slump for Juju. I mean, you hit the nail on the head. Before that concussion against Jacksonville, he had three straight games with 88 or more yards, three straight games with 18.8 or more PPR fantasy points. That's Juju. So we saw we did see
Starting point is 00:39:08 him emerge. But yeah, I don't know. Dan, what do you think? Do you think top 20 for Jacoby Myers if he's... Actually, wait. Can I follow up real quick? Is this scenario with Tony there, Jamie? I can't imagine Tony's gone. Oh, right. Of course.
Starting point is 00:39:23 He'll be there. So you'd rank Jacoby higher than Tony? Yeah, I'm not ranking Jacoby Myers as a top 20 receiver, but I think you could see a path to him having that type of season. I mean, again, you're talking about this is just completely retooling it without bringing in another significant piece. So would you be shocked if the Chiefs got DeAndre Hopkins? One of those type of things. If they lose the Super Bowl, they were very aggressive. Let's just say the Eagles, because they have great cornerbacks, they just lock down this passing game. Mahomes to Kelsey, they get their
Starting point is 00:39:56 numbers to whatever extent, but this receiving core is completely non-existent. What happened last time when their Super Bowl loss to the Bucs? Everybody saw the glaring weaknesses for them. It was the offensive line. And they found ways to get guys that nobody thought that they can get. Wouldn't be surprising if they, you know, Mahomes like, listen, you took away Tyree. I had an MVP season. I know I could do it, but help me out a little bit. Andy, come on. You know, Brett Veach, help me out a little bit. You know, give me somebody. And they find a way to get a Hopkins. They find a way to get, who else is on them?
Starting point is 00:40:25 Keenan Allen. They find a way to get somebody that's an aging superstar, or at least still has superstar traits. So I wouldn't be surprised if they do that, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they go the juju route again and say, hey, I'm the MVP. Come play one year for me. I'll get you paid.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And maybe Jacoby Myers has something like that. All right. Let's do one more here, Dan. Give me your Saquon Barkley if then okay if saquon barkley signs with the jaguars dan will cry no i that's jamie that's what i want i don't want them to resign saquon barkley giants yeah i've made the case already i i'm personally if i ever ran an nfl team i would never sign a running back to a second contract that just keep drafting rookies and recycling those four-year deals for one million against the cap. But if Saquon Barkley does go to the Jacksonville Jaguars,
Starting point is 00:41:09 I think every single player on that Jaguars offense will be better, will produce more than what their ADP is. Trevor Lawrence, Calvin Ridley, if they keep Ingram, Ingram, and if not, Zay Jones and Christian Kirk. Every player, maybe every player but Travis Etienne. Every player but Barkley. And Etienne. I mean, I don't even know what this would mean.
Starting point is 00:41:30 And Etienne. Why would he go to the Jaguars? It means buy the Jaguars offense if they can get Saquon Barkley. Because I really do believe watching that offense enough, because I've seen, probably saw four games of game tape on that offense because I love Trevor Lawrence. They need a running back who's going to be able to run power and gap. When I watch Travis Etienne, he is so poorly processing everything that they want to do.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And even if you listen to what Doug Peterson says, he doesn't feel comfortable with Travis Etienne running the football in that system. And to get that passing game to the next level, they need to be able to get a running back in there to run power and gap, to establish something so they can run those five and seven step dropbacks off play action with Trevor Lawrence. That gets the deep and intermediate passing game open. What they kind of went to at the end of that season was a pass first quick hitting quick game passing game, which can work at times. We saw the Giants do it a little bit the end of season, but it doesn't have longevity. If you want to run an offense that can hit those intermediate and vertical shots in the passing game,
Starting point is 00:42:25 which is what Trevor Lawrence does best, you need to establish some kind of running games. You could run that kind of play action, five, seven step drop. And Barkley is the type of back who could run in that system. He just did it with the giants when they converted to more power and gap concepts with pullers.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And I watched way too much Jaguars and saw way too many missed holes from ETN. I just don't think that he's the guy there. I do think though, if they go that route though, cause they do have a lot of cap issues that you're probably looking cause Barkley's I'm sure looking to get some sort of payday. I know he's not looking to break the bank as he said,
Starting point is 00:42:57 but I'm sure he's looking to get some sort of payday. Like I could see more of a, just because if you want to have the tie-ins, you know, to it, uh, clearly miles Sanders, you know Sanders with the Peterson connection. Not going to cost as much,
Starting point is 00:43:10 depending on what his Super Bowl performance looks like. And Devin Singletary, another guy that has a connection to that type of system, coming from Buffalo. I think as far as the cap goes, though, with them, I know they have the cap issues because they just spent big in free agency agency but they're also one of the reason i picked them and i was thinking about them or the dolphins but the two of things scares me there with miami is they're still one of those teams that are in the uh quarterback the rookie quarterback window so with lawrence when you're in that window and you're not paying your quarterback much you can kind of sometimes
Starting point is 00:43:40 push some of these other contracts back worry about paying that off later because this is the window where you should spend. Right. I just know Ingram's going to cost them if they want to keep them. And Jawan Taylor's a free agent. They have to make a decision. Yeah, they have to touch spots. So two big pieces on the offense
Starting point is 00:43:56 that I don't know how much running back is a position that they necessarily prioritize to spend big on. According to overthecap.com, the teams with the most salary cap space are the Bears by far, the Falcons, the Giants,
Starting point is 00:44:14 Texans, Bengals, Patriots, Seahawks, Ravens, Raiders. You know, those would be the but the Bears, Falcons, Giants Texans, Bengals, Patriots probably have the most
Starting point is 00:44:29 I don't see Saquon leaving the Giants personally and the Jaguars are in cap hell they have the fourth worst cap situation the Saints, Bucks, Vikings, Jaguars Titans, Chargers, bad caps the Saints is hilarious because if they find a way who's the quarterback who
Starting point is 00:44:45 they were just rumored to be potentially trading for was a big name? Carr. Carr, yeah. If they found a way to trade for Carr, at this point, I don't know how much I can believe in the salary cap. If this happened, this was supposed to be the finally, they pushed it all back. I mean, the Saints have been in cap hell since 2012. I don't understand how this has gone 14 years. The cap really is a joke. I mean, it's really, if you have the money to spend, I don't know what their financial situation is, but if they have the ability to spend the money, then they can move things around
Starting point is 00:45:14 and restructure deals and just pay guys. That's the thing. A lot of people look at the cap as like a one-year thing. Like Adam just went over who has the most cap space. These teams didn't have the most. These teams have the least. But it's really a fluid number because you can dip into next year to change your cap number for this year. Cause you're
Starting point is 00:45:27 pushing those contracts back or you can front or you can do the opposite and you could it. So it's like a very interesting fluid number. And I kind of agree with Jamie. I look, if you're in a cap hell quote unquote for 10 years and you never pay the Piper, like the saints never had to, I just don't know if I can believe in it being the most solid thing. Okay, by the way, I'm looking at an article on CBSSports.com from two years ago, February 10th, 2021, just after the Bucs won the Super Bowl, I'm guessing? Yes. So from that point, dating back to 2009,
Starting point is 00:46:01 going through the 2020 season, the average salary for the leading rusher on the Super Bowl winning team, average base salary was around $1.1 million. And then last year was the Rams. I mean, you know. And this year is exactly the same. This year it's going to be Pacheco. And Sanders.
Starting point is 00:46:24 None of them are making money. Sanders is still on the rookie deal. There's just... What's the most... Like the highest paid base salary to a running back was... The leading rusher was Percy Harvin. Is that right? I mean, if you're re-signing...
Starting point is 00:46:39 I don't know if that was in the Super Bowl or not. But yeah, I mean, that's... The bottom line is spending money on running back is not necessary to win Super Bowls. It might even be a bad idea. I think we all know that. It's a definite bad idea. If the Giants re-sign Barkley, they're praying he's an outlier to everything that we know about paying that position. But we'll see what happens, I guess. All right. I got some tweets
Starting point is 00:46:56 here from the audience. Their thoughts on if blank goes to the blank, then blank. We have a few minutes for this, guys. So let's fire through these from Alex Vander Ploeg. If T. Higgins goes to the Bears, then Justin Fields is a top two quarterback. Not for me.
Starting point is 00:47:13 No, but it makes him much more attractive. Use yourself as a top five guy. Teddy Brozevelt. If Josh Jacobs goes to any team on a big contract, then he should be expected to fall back to his career average or worse. Classic contract year performance. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Yeah, that's fair. Not sure I agree. Depends on the team, but I would lean more towards that. We need to see the fit, yeah. I think he's a solid player. If he has a good offensive line, I think he could have a really good year. If he goes to the Bears. Well, they've had offensive line issues
Starting point is 00:47:45 for sure yeah I don't love that O-line plus I wouldn't expect a lot of catches if he went to the Bears I don't know what if he went to the Falcons if he went to the Falcons I think he could have his best year or maybe not no not his second best year wouldn't be this good right but no if he went to the Falcons you'd be excited about that right it's not a bad
Starting point is 00:48:01 spot I guess no I would I would be okay with it, but I still think he's sharing with Algier. From Henrik, if Aaron Jones goes to wherever, A.J. Dillon is a top 12 running back. Is Aaron Rodgers the quarterback or Jordan Love? I would guess Love in this scenario.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Yeah, in this scenario, they're kind of reloading and retooling. No, I wouldn't take him as a top 12 with Jordan Love running that offense. I was unusually happy to get Jordan Love in our super flex draft. In the super flex. I felt that same way about Trey Lance. Dynasty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Trey Lance, mid-round three in super flex dynasty. I'll take that any time. It was a very good pick, yeah. And then I got the actual starting quarterback for the 49ers, Brock Purdy, round 10. Is that whatever it was? That'll be great in Dynasty when we look at this in two or three years.
Starting point is 00:48:54 It seems like the Packers are going to bring Aaron Jones back, from all indications. AJ Dillon, I'm not sure what he is right now. I don't know if he's an every- down back. Probably not. He was pretty disappointing this year, I thought.
Starting point is 00:49:08 He was, yeah. From Fantasy Ball, if Lamar Jackson goes to the Falcons, Kyle Pitts is top five. What do you think, Jay? Oh, wow. I like that one. Yeah, it's a good one.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Good call. And from Aaron St. Dennis, if Derek Carr goes to the Saints, then Chris Olave is a top 10 wide receiver. I don't know if I'd say top 10, but I'd certainly say top 20, maybe top 15. Yeah, probably a little more. 20, top 20 for me. You know, as disappointing as Derek Carr was,
Starting point is 00:49:39 Rodgers had a terrible fantasy season. He was not even a top 20 quarterback on a per-game basis. So I'll just ask you guys, with that setup, is there any doubt in your mind that you'd rather have, if you were an NFL franchise or had a fantasy wide receiver that you'd rather have Aaron Rogers than Derek Carr? Is it, is Rogers clearly a better quarterback still than Carr or do you? Well, I would say Aaron Rogers with Derek Carr's weapons, which is what he would have, which by the way is his old weapon,
Starting point is 00:50:06 is a better quarterback. I completely agree. If he went to Vegas, rapport has already been built with Adams. He'll be a much better option. Just a simple question. You think Aaron Rodgers is a better quarterback than Carr? Yes. Still?
Starting point is 00:50:19 Still. You don't? No, I do. I'm not high on Carr to begin with. Carr's interesting because you look at his season. He had three games that were absolutely horrible. You remember the Saints game? Yep.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Scored less than three points. He looked really bad against the Steelers that game they lost. Well, that game was cold. He's so bad in the cold. So bad in the cold. And then he had this Rams game where he was terrible. Yeah, don't go to the Jets. Yeah, or Washington. Right. Go bad in the Colts. And then he had this Rams game where he was terrible. Yeah, don't go to the Jets. Yeah, or Washington. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Go to the Dolphins. But Carr had more 20 fantasy point games than Daniel Jones, more than Trevor Lawrence. And I think he had one less than Kirk Cousins. But he was like living at 20. Yeah, he never has been. Like if his address had a number, it would be 20.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Yeah, that's the thing about Carr is he has so few big games. He has now gone two straight seasons without a 30 fantasy point game in six points passing touchdown leads. It's so hard for him to get there when he doesn't run at all. Right. He's not a prolific enough passer. Cousins does it, and Cousins doesn't run at all.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Right, but he's a more prolific passer, in my opinion, than Derek Carr. Yeah. Adam, why'd you take Jamar Chase over Justin Jefferson? He's better than Justin Jefferson, and he's tied to Joe Burrow. This is a dynasty question. I took Jamar Chase number one overall in dynasty. He's tied to Joe Burrow for years and years and years.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Yes. There's some uncertainty about Kirk Cousins. I support that decision, Adam, but I do not support the decision of taking him where you took him in that draft in a super flex. Oh, you would have taken Mahomes? him in that draft in a super flex oh you would have taken my homes in my opinion in a super flex quarterback is worth in dynasty quarterback is basically worth everything yeah my my quarterbacks ended up being tua and derrick car to may not play wasn't great ever again i wanted to see how it turned out you know but i think
Starting point is 00:52:03 jamar chase is the most valuable player in Dynasty. Non-quarterback, you're talking about in Superflex, right? Well, obviously, I... No. Obviously, I think even quarterback, but I understand where you're coming from. Jamie, who would you have taken 1-1? I would have taken Mahomes or Allen.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And if you were going to take a wide receiver, it would have been who? I still would have taken Jeffshon. I would have went Chase with you, Adam, so I got you. All right. Thanks, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow with the Super Bowl preview. It was the best round ever when it went Bellinger and Darius Slayton. Our bad.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Did you hear what Travis Kelsey said about Bellinger? Kelsey gave a shout-out to Bellinger. One of the young tight ends he likes coming up, Travis Kelsey. I did not hear that. It might have been a Giants reporter who asked him the question, so I don't know. Jamie, just so you know, a little sneak peek for tomorrow. I do believe I'm changing my pick.
Starting point is 00:52:55 So we'll find out why. Geeps? Yeah, I think so. I think so. Find out why. You're going off the greatest team ever? Tomorrow's show. You're going against the greatest team to ever play, 16-1,
Starting point is 00:53:06 if Jalen Hurts never got hurt? Hey, man, the Giants once beat the Patriots. Things happen. All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football.

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