Fantasy Football Today - George Pickens to the Cowboys! Plus Fantasy Game Shows and Fantasy Cops! (05/07 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

Big news as the Cowboys have acquired George Pickens! Who is the biggest winner in this trade? Is it Pickens? DK Metcalf? Dak Prescott? Is CeeDee Lamb a loser? We have a lot of different opinions on ...the winners and losers ... Let's play some games! Dave, Jamey and Heath compete in Name That Player (23:00), Fantasy Feud (28:15) and Who Has More (38:30)? Which analyst will claim victory in games that have no prizes!? ... The Fantasy Cops (46:40) are back to solve your league disputes. We're kicking kids out of leagues, demanding league votes and even dabbling in Fantasy soccer ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow FFT Express on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FFT newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for all the latest ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sportsbook reviews⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sportsbook To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:29 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. This is gonna go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. off to the races and he stays on his feet. This is gonna go the distance.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Whoa, what's going on everybody? Very exciting show. Did you know that over the last three seasons, there have been 105 wide receivers with 100 or more targets. George Pickens ranks 11th out of those 105 wide receivers in yards per target. CD Lambs 31st. George Pickens is seventh in yards per catch.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Lambs is 62nd in yards per catch. George Pickens ranks 14th in explosive play rate. Lambs is 47th. George Pickens is better than CD Lambs, everyone. Unless you look at yards per outrun rate, that's terrible, and target per outrun rate also favoring CD Lamb. He is elite in those two, but George Pickens
Starting point is 00:01:27 has been a very efficient wide receiver when he catches the ball over the last three seasons, which is his entire career. Now he is on the Dallas Cowboys as the Cowboys acquire Pickens and a sixth round pick in 2027 for a third round pick and a fifth round pick, third round pick next year, fifth round pick in 2027. Welcome everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Heath, who's the biggest winner in this trade? The guy who moved up the most in my rankings was DK Metcalf. I had a little bit of uncertainty about how big the split would be between Metcalf and Pickens in terms of targets. We've talked about this a lot. They're very similar players. And now Metcalf is the clear alpha number one on that team. So he's still a number three wide receiver for me, but he's more of a high end than a low end.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Trey Lockerbie Who's got a hot take about this situation? By the way, coming up on today's show, Fantasy cops got four fantasy cops emails. Is one of them about a dynasty rookie draft where the commissioner cannot get the draft order correct? I think so. Okay. We got three fantasy cops emails. I think so. We got that.
Starting point is 00:02:45 We've got who has more fantasy food and name that player. So it's game show day today. I was not expecting this George Pickens news. It was supposed to be just game shows and fantasy cops. So that's coming up. So stay tuned for that. All right. Who's got a hot take about this George Pickens to the Cowboys trade?
Starting point is 00:03:04 That Prescott's QB six. What? Whoa, really? No, but it got a hot take about this George Pickens to the Cowboys trade? That Prescott's QB six. What? Whoa, really? No, but you want to sound spicy, right? No, I look. He's QB eight. He's been what? He's been top four per game in three of the last six seasons.
Starting point is 00:03:17 You got him at QB eight? Yep. Wow. That's pretty hot take. All right. I'll have to adjust my sleepers article. It's coming out later day at CBS sports.com because I was just using our consensus rankings and it sounds like Jamie might move deck up enough to worry he's not
Starting point is 00:03:34 ranked low enough in the consensus rankings to be a sleeper. Thanks for that. Jamie. Um, I got kind of skewered on Twitter this morning for saying that I really am not excited about any sort of upgrade for George Pickens. And everybody seems to think because he's going to a much better quarterback and a much better offense, he's going to be better. And I still think he's a number four wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Uh, Dave, I've got DK as a borderline number two, number three wide receiver in full PPR because I think he can pick up the 7.4 targets per game that we saw from that from Pickens rather last year. And he got off to a great start last year in Seattle with Gino. He got hurt and that's when his numbers hit the toilet. I think that he's okay to take there, there's really this range of receivers. Honestly, the range is like way higher than 24th among wide receivers. But somewhere between like 24 and 40, all those guys kind of feel the same. They all
Starting point is 00:04:33 might be separated in Heath's rankings by like a PPR point per game. Just, I'm guessing, I don't know, Heath's projections. So I don't know. But I think he's, I think he's a winner. I think Fryermuth is a winner, because now you can draft him to be your tight end to start the season, and he'll cost you next to nothing. And I moved Dak up. I didn't move Dak into my Top 10. But I mean, I got to hear more about that. Like, how is Dak a Top 10 quarterback? I guess it makes sense a little bit, Pickens just going there and like he already had Lamb, he was going to make good numbers with Lamb, but maybe you're just figuring that Pickens is just such a huge upgrade that it's going to push his numbers sky high. Well, for the last six years, he's been 24 points or better.
Starting point is 00:05:15 So there's already enough of a track record to say he can get to that again. And he did that two years ago with CD Lamb and Brandon Cooks as his top receivers. Obviously Lamb was astronomical, but I think you're looking at what Pickens brings as, he's not a 1A in this scenario, but he's a pretty good too. And you look at what he was able to accomplish last year with a, the best quarterback he's played with is 35 year old Russell Wilson, 36 year old Russell Wilson last year. He's had such miserable quarterback play. the We're hoping it's Aaron Rodgers. Obviously- Right. That's the best case scenario. But he's leaving Aaron Rodgers as the second guy there in almost a duplicate situation because him and DK Metcalfe were going to do a lot of the same type of things. Now he's going where he's not expected to be the leader of the receiving core, not going
Starting point is 00:06:17 to lead the team and target, should play off of CD Lam with, I think, the best quarterback of his career, assuming that Dak Prescott at 32 coming off a major hamstring injury is going to be fine But all the stuff that you hear is he's going to be fine And so i'm counting on dax history which has been through two different head coaches um and A couple different office coordinators that he's produced at that level um I think he's got a good opportunity here to bounce back and bounce back in a big way
Starting point is 00:06:46 This is might be the best receiving court he's ever had You know so with Ferguson as the third guy and no run game and this offensive line was good last year and look Zack Martin Obviously is a big loss But I think the Zack Martin that they're losing and what they're replacing him with is better So offensive line is was top 10 in PFF rankings. I believe Adam, if I'm not mistaken, that's what I saw this morning. In pass blocking from a year ago.
Starting point is 00:07:11 So, you know, getting better. I don't know, it feels like- The Cowboys? The Cowboys, you said? Or the Steelers? Cowboys, I'm sorry if I said Steelers. No, no, no, you didn't. I had 23rd in pass blocking. I had made a note of that because Dak took a lot of sacks last year and, um,
Starting point is 00:07:29 they struggled according to PFF. They struggled in, uh, in past protection. Go ahead, Heath. Okay. Maybe I saw something different. I agree completely about the Dak as a top 10 quarterback. I think I had him 10th before this. He's in a tier. I don't know how much I'm actually going to move him up, but he's in a tier with the guys basically from six through 10. I think you could make a reasonable argument for ranking him as high as six. Um, but I, the thing that concerns me about Pickens, just getting back to that, cause it is the best quarterback he's ever played with, I think for sure. Um, I, the pie is bigger in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:08:04 They're going to throw for a lot more yards. They're going to throw a lot more times, even if it's a little bit more sure. Um, I, the pie is bigger in Dallas. They're going to throw for a lot more yards. They're going to throw a lot more times, even if that comes down a little bit with Brian Schottenheimer in charge of everything and a first time OC, but CD lamb has been a guy that earns 10, 11 targets per game. DK Metcalf hasn't been that guy. Like it's the three, at least three targets per game more for lamb for me than I would have for Metcalf.
Starting point is 00:08:31 So I think that maybe the efficiency, the catch rate or efficiency goes up for Pickens. I'm not sure there is a big target boost as the number two behind CDLAM. Compared to being the number two. I don't think there's a huge target boost, but I think, like you said, the pie is bigger. The quarterback is better. The coverage is going to be better for him, you know, because he's not facing everybody's number one. Um, you look what he did in that stretch with Russell Wilson, who was again,
Starting point is 00:08:58 the most capable guy that he's ever caught passes from. And for those first six games were arguably the four best games of his career from that stretch You know so just looking at his production over that time and what he's hopefully able to do here look He's got to keep his head on right. That's a big part of this, too you know is he gonna be happy if he's not getting enough targets and You know, this is one of those situations where it's hard to judge vacated targets because the the number two receiver for them last Year was Brandon Cooks at 31 years old, you know, in a situation where Dak missed nine games.
Starting point is 00:09:27 So that's 54 targets. I don't think that's what he's getting. I think he's getting obviously a lot more than that. I don't know. It feels like a great scenario for Pickens to walk in in a contract year to a team that may be terrible running the ball. And that's if they get a Dobbins or a Chubb. Like this is not going to be a run-based Dallas team like we're used to seeing from years past. Like this
Starting point is 00:09:47 is going to be Dak Prescott's offense and throw the ball a lot. And so yeah, C.D. Lamb, I don't think he loses by any stretch in this scenario. Like if you're debating him versus Jefferson, that was a tough call for me prior to this. So I had Lamb two, now he's three, Jefferson's two. I don't know. It feels like a great spot for Pickens considering where he's leaving. And I think it's great for Dak Prescott just given what he's got in front of him right now. Well, over the last three seasons, that's really when CD Lamb broke out for Dallas.
Starting point is 00:10:14 The number two target getter has been Dalton Schultz at 89, Jake Ferguson at 102, and Ferguson again at 86. So it's been the tight end all three years, somewhere between 82 and 102 targets. We need more than that from George Pickens, obviously we're hopeful of that. And I think another thing is like, George Pickens is his places of being targeted is nowhere similar to the tight ends.
Starting point is 00:10:42 So I don't really like it's that you don't target those guys in the same type of the same part of the field or in the same situations. So I don't know that the hardest part for me is it's hard to get Pickens to it. I got 20% target share in Dallas would be great. That's about where I had him in Pittsburgh. I think he's in the teens because I don't take anything away from Ferguson because Pickens is there. I would hope so. Honestly, I mean, you know, you're just gonna take some of those tight end dumps and turn them into Hail Marys?
Starting point is 00:11:12 No, well, his a dots like 13 yards. He's not an 18 yard Hail Mary guy. And last year, he was the only wide receiver in the league, if maybe the only player in the league that had six or more green zone targets inside the 10 yard line and did not have a single catch. So this guy, even when he was targeted in the end zone, it just, they never were able to connect green zone or any look this up. Um, just from 2023, cause Brandon cooks in a healthy Dak Prescott season at eight touchdowns, 2023 as a number two receiver for Dallas. Like, yeah, if that's a neighborhood that Pickens can live in with what you should be able to do on
Starting point is 00:11:50 top of that. Just the amount of touchdowns that have been the difference in touchdowns over the last three years between Dallas and Pittsburgh. It's insane. Yeah. Last year was only like two or three, but Dak has also missed 14 games over those last three seasons, all of them in 2022 and 2024. I don't know. I mean, I just looked at it like, man, the Cowboys have, before this morning,
Starting point is 00:12:18 a pretty bad offense around, I mean, the line might be fine, but like pretty boring offense. Like they just don't have great skill position. They They have C.D. Lam and like nothing else to write home about. They just got a really talented player. I think it's pretty exciting. I don't know. I mean, I don't know how it translates to fantasy. We'll have to see how that shakes out. But I think it's exciting. I think it's great for Dak. I think it's great. I think it's good for Pickens. I mean, Heath obviously disagrees. I think at least gives him a shot to be something fun. Whereas in Pittsburgh, if he had second fiddle to DK Metcalf in Pittsburgh,
Starting point is 00:12:50 I don't know what we're getting from Pickens. Correct. Yeah, it was awful. And I think it's great for DK Metcalf. If he gets Aaron Rodgers, here's my hot take. If DK Metcalf gets Aaron Rodgers, he's going to be worth a third round pick. He's going to have the second best season of his career. Because Aaron Rodgers... And You'll never draft him in a row. You'll always get him after that. Aaron Rodgers does one thing consistently. He finds his favorite receiver and targets the hell out of him. Garrett Wilson was on pace for 190 targets in the first six games. Devontae Adams was on pace for 174 targets in the last 11 games. And the first six games of theontae Adams was on pace for 174 targets in the last 11 games. And the first six games of the season,
Starting point is 00:13:28 Garrett Wilson was first or second in the NFL in red zone and green zone targets, maybe third. And then it was the same exact thing for Devontae Adams in the last 11. He has a great history of focusing on one guy all over the field, including and especially near the end zone. So I am excited if Aaron Rogers goes to the Steelers. I know it won't be a super pass heavy offense, but I am excited
Starting point is 00:13:52 for everyone with this trade. I think this is a great trade for fantasy. Not for Ferguson. He's forget him. But yeah, like, but I'm excited. He's poor cold water on me. Go ahead. Well, there's a there's's a, there's a difference between Garrett Wilson and Devontae Adams and DK Metcalf. Those guys, like Devontae Adams has a decade of history of getting 10 targets per game. Alan Lazard and Christian Watson,
Starting point is 00:14:17 the same thing happened with them. Garrett Wilson had 10, 9.9 targets per game before Aaron Rodgers got there. DK's never been that guy. No, but Garrett Wilson was never that guy either. No, Garrett Wilson had 168 targets the year before Aaron Rodgers got there. Or I'm sorry, Aaron Rodgers was there.
Starting point is 00:14:37 He was on injury reserve the entire time. It was obviously his influence. Okay, I stand corrected then. And I've projected Metcalfe, I think for the highest target share of his career, but they're probably gonna throw 480 passes. Yeah, I don't know. And so what's the target share you gave him on 480 passes?
Starting point is 00:14:59 25% Okay, so that's still 120. That's still not bad. And I I'll take the over on that. I don't think it's going to be 150. I got him at 125. And then the other thing is like Aaron Rogers has not been good for three years. He's averaged the same yards per attempt since the start of the 22 season as Mason Rudolph.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Like actually worse. They were the same last year. I don't, this is the worst quarterback DK Metcalf has ever gone into a season with, regardless of whether Aaron Rodgers signs with his dealers or not. It's the only time he's been the clear alpha number one though, right?
Starting point is 00:15:37 He's always had a running mate and a good running mate. So look, obviously it's better for him than it was yesterday, right? I mean, you moved him up. I moved him up. But not as high as I'm willing to move him look, obviously it's better for him than it was yesterday, right? I mean, he's, you move them up, but not as high as I'm willing to move them up. And Dave was 100% hit the nail on the head from wide receiver 24 to wide receiver 40. There is a one point per game difference in my projections. Okay. Dave and Jamie, where are you guys putting DK Metcalf?
Starting point is 00:16:05 I put Metcalf. He was like 36. I moved him up about 10 spots and I put Pickens right behind him. DK is 24th for me, moved him ahead of Coralyn Sutton, Travis Hunter, Chris Godwin, Jamison Williams. It does feel like I'm graphing, ranking him pretty close to a ceiling at 24. So, but Arthur is now and I moved Pickens down literally yesterday. And I'm not sure how much he'll move up. He'll be at best alone.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Number three receiver. Arthur Smith in six seasons has had one top 20 wide receiver. And he's had AJ Brown and prime Calvin Ridley who played five games, but was the really good. And Drake London and George Pickens. DK Metcalf has had one top 20 season in six seasons. To be fair, Arthur Smith also had Ryan Tannehill and Matt Ryan at the end of his career. And he's hoping, hoping desperately they could say, sign the same guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying like, it's not like he's had the greatest of quarterbacks. I think, you know, you're going to either come out on this with your feelings on Metcalf either if you're buying what Adam is selling, that this is a Roger's favorite guy and he's going to do what he does with all of his favorite guys. He's also been in situations where the offense coordinator has been someone he's controlled. We'll see if that's the case in this situation if he's going to be controlling Arthur Smith
Starting point is 00:17:36 or Arthur Smith is going to be controlling him. I would assume with Mike Tomlin there, it's going to be a, you know, you're running what we want to run. Not that they're going to mention, but you know, that's probably a little bit more of a controlling situation from the coach and coordinator as comparatively to what Rogers has been used to. It's going to be a fascinating thing. I think taking him around three is a huge mistake. Oh, no, I wouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I wouldn't do that. I was thinking I think you're getting him like for me, around five is the sweet spot for for for Metcalf and Pickens is like round six of the earliest No, I think that taking him around three would would be drafting Metcalf at his ceiling I think he could return that value though, and I like I didn't give him really any chance of doing that before this trade But he'd be someone that I would be looking to target in late round four If not a little earlier, like I think I think right when him and Devontae Smith would be a tough call for me. It's funny because yesterday we're in the middle of the dynasty league that Heath runs,
Starting point is 00:18:34 the rookie draft, and I was actually offered Metcalf for pick 110, which I turned down because I had other needs. I took Caleb Johnson, that's fine. Prior to getting the, I think I was, I don't know if I was on the clock yet or not, but it was gonna be debating Matthew Golden versus George Pickens, because that's the way I thought the draft was gonna go. And just based on how my team is,
Starting point is 00:18:59 I have a little buyer's remorse now, just knowing that Metcalfe's situation improved a lot. Well, I got a comment here from the chat that says, I think this makes Pickens a lock top 24 with potential to be the Waddle, Devontae Smith type of producer and get close to top 12. You should draft Dak Prescott. Yeah, I don't.
Starting point is 00:19:19 You should draft a lot of Dak Prescott. I don't think we have it, but I think if people feel like he's a good receiver, that's, you know, going to be the number two on a on a very good offense, a very good passing offense, then I understand. I understand there are going to be a lot of different opinions on this. And the question is, like, how good is George Pickens? I gave you all those per route things, but he has never been a guy that has shown
Starting point is 00:19:40 he can consistently be good. He can have a really good five game stretch, but he's mercurial. He's, you know, he's got, I don't wanna say off the field, but he's got some mental hurdles that he has to overcome. And also Dak Prescott had some worrying signs last year. He stopped running and he took a lot of sacks
Starting point is 00:20:01 and he's coming off a hamstring injury. So he's 32 as he's slowing down. You know, there's so much to this and I honestly think we could do about an hour on it, but we're not going to, we're gonna take a break and we're going to come back with a lot of games. Before we do that, did anybody move or will anybody consider moving CD Lam?
Starting point is 00:20:18 Yes. He was down one spot, so he was two, now he's three. I will consider moving down CD Lam significantly from three. He is two and he will stay to significantly to what Dave? Um, maybe five, six. Okay. Because the track record when Dallas has had that second wide receiver, you have to go back to 2021 to find it. He was not even averaging 15 points per game. Now we can argue that CD lamb is not the same receiver now that he was then.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Um, but you could also argue that George Pickens isn't quite the exactly the same type of receiver that Amari Cooper was then. And there will be some sort of target crunch. I don't think he's getting 10 targets per game. I'm not even sure if he's going to get nine targets per game. Yeah, I did not. And this Dave, if Dave's right, I'm going to be way too high on lamb, but I game. Yeah, I did not. And this Dave, if Dave's right, I'm gonna be way too high on Lam,
Starting point is 00:21:07 but I did not affect, I did not change CD Lam's target share. I just think like one of these guys is an alpha. One of these guys is not. All right. And one of these little piggies is going to break. We'll be right back after this on fantasy football today. Hey, by the way, the Jaguars release gave Davis,
Starting point is 00:21:24 let's play some name that player. Name that player. I have three players that you need to name and I will give clues and you will guess them. I'm gonna give you two wrong answers per round and then you have to shut up. All right. I was the number four wide receiver in PPR in 2024, despite leaving one game early with an injury. Number four. Overall, sir, overall.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I had the second most end zone targets among wide receivers. Just chime in whenever? Yeah. Oh, Amara Sainte-Prem. Wrong buzzer sound. I scored 40.7 PPR fantasy points in week 18. My first name is a famous rapper. My last name is a famous city.
Starting point is 00:22:25 The city is in Europe with a bridge. Drake London. There you go. Thank you, Drake London. Isn't it amazing that Drake London was the number four wide receiver overall last year? I think he was like 15th per game or something, but it kind of tells you a lot of injuries
Starting point is 00:22:43 at wide receiver, pretty weak year for the number four receiver, but he was number four. I had no idea. Yeah. All right. Heath gets round one. I number two, I will be 30 years old in October. I was a top 15 wide receiver in 2024, my best finish ever. My yak would make Adam yak. I had zero catches on zero targets in week seven, and then I was a top 10 wide receiver from week eight on. I lost in the first round of the playoffs, the NFL playoffs, and I had a rookie quarterback.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Huh. Dave, DJ Moore? DJ Moore did not go to the playoffs. Terry McLorin. He went to the NFC championship game. I had a rookie quarterback, went to the first round of the playoffs. Top 15 receiver was amazing from week eight on.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Courtland. Courtland. He's name that player. Good job. We have a third. That's supposed to be allowed to guess after you guess. Yeah. Like how many could I just run down the list of I think Adam said two guys, you get two wrong guesses. Heath only had one wrong guess. He wins. Oh, wait a second. The third one is worth triple the points. All right, let's go where David and Jamie are back at the game.
Starting point is 00:24:12 All right, last name that player. I was QB 13 per game. I was third in yards per attempt, but 19th in touchdown rate. I went from nine rushing yards per game to 21.5 rushing yards per game. I scored 25 or more fantasy points in six point per passing touchdown leagues in six of my last 10 games. Justin Herbert.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I helped Adam beat Heath in the podcast league with 36.3 fantasy points in week 17. It's Purdy. It is Purdy. Brock Purdy with that big game against the Lions in the fantasy championship. Oh man. All right. Dave, give me a quick fantasy take on Brock Purdy. First of all, I have to admit that I totally cheated on that one. Second of all, I think...
Starting point is 00:25:10 Jamie, you give me a fantasy take on Brock Purdy. What a cheater. That's right. I think, you know, similar to what Dave and Heath agreed with this on the wide receivers, that there's a large group from 26 through 40 There's a large group of quarterbacks from basically QB I'll say QB 7 because I think Mahalem should be QB 6 but QB 7 through like 15 and he's in that group Look, he he's got a lot of moving parts right now McCaffrey back. I you probably out, you know
Starting point is 00:25:40 Jennings and Pierce all as the top duo Hopefully an improved offensive line from the way last year ended you know a lot of that has to do with Trent Williams and hopefully he's 100% so I think he's gonna be one of the best quarterbacks to wait for on draft day and still be you know top 10 caliber quarterback but I don't know if he has top 5 upside he he's shown it I just don't know how much I'll show it consistently. So he's he's one of my favorite late round quarterbacks to target this year. I did put that price got ahead
Starting point is 00:26:10 of him. I think there's a little bit more upside with that. But pretty is, you know, in that same conversation as one of those guys you can get in QB seven through, you know, 15 and be comfortable with sneak peek, he will be replacing deck in my sleep sleepers article. Nice. As a top order back for me. Dave, how did you cheat? I'm not telling you. I do appreciate your honesty though. All right. True or false?
Starting point is 00:26:34 Heath takes round one. It takes the first game. Two for Heath, zero for Jamie and negative 10 for Dave. All right. We are on onto fantasy feud. We got, give me Heath, give me Dave for the first round. Wide receivers with 10 or more touchdown catches. The top seven answers are on the board.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Mike Evans. Heath, you didn't buzz in, but that's fine. Mike Evans is the number four answer. So hold on, are we supposed to be buzzing in or not? Yeah. Because in the last game we didn't have to buzz in and I was buzzing in and now we have to buzz in? Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:10 We're supposed to buzz in but not look up the answer on our computers. It's two very different rules. Yes, you buzz in on the first question and then you pass or play. But Dave, you have a chance to get the number one, two or three answer. Actually, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 00:27:23 There could be a tie, so I have to pull this up here. Wide receivers with 10 or more touchdowns. No, it's your turn. Wide receivers with 10 or more touchdown catches. Jamar Chase definitely had more than 10. I don't know if he had more than Mike Evans though. He had 17 to lead all wide receivers. You get the number one answer, pass or play?
Starting point is 00:27:44 I'm passing. Remember there are seven. You sure? Yeah, I would have played. Sounds like the number one answer, pass or play. I'm passing. Remember there are seven. You sure? Yeah, I would play. Sounds like a fun one to play, Dave. All right, Heath, two answers are off the board. Jamar chase number one, Mike Evans number four. We need five more wide receivers
Starting point is 00:27:56 with 10 or more touchdowns. Justin Jefferson? Yes, correct. He had 10. T Higgins? Correct. He had 10. Three left. You've got Chase, Evans, Higgins and Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Amonari St. Brown? Hey, he had 12. Chase Evans, Higgins and Jefferson. I'm on my way to St. Brown. Hey, he had 12. There are two left. And guys, please no looking. In fact, chat, can you stop chat? Stop. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:37 No, Dave, don't look at the chat. Dave's looking at the chat. Terry McCorn is correct. He's number two with 13. That gives us one more wide receiver with 10 or more touchdowns. Can you give me the, I'm sorry. Can you please just give me the list of the guys
Starting point is 00:28:52 that I've guessed correctly? Chase, McClellan, St. Brown, Evans, Higgins, Jefferson. That didn't really help that much. Brian Thomas. Oh my gosh, you crushed it. Did you look at the chat? No, I don't trust Dave not to cheat. This is the problem. The one guy who told you he cheated. I don't trust it. Okay. Heath, Heath, you're on fire. You got them all. Chase, McLaurin, St. Brown, Evans, Higgins, Jefferson, Brian Thomas Jr. They all had 10 or more touchdown catches. All right, give me Heath, give me Jamie.
Starting point is 00:29:27 We've got the top five answers on the board. I'm looking for the tight end leaders. Top five tight ends in yards per route run. Heath. Heath. Tucker Craft. I like that guess, but it is incorrect. Jamie, top five tight ends and yards per route run.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Brock powers. He is number four. Pass or play. Pass. George Kittle. George Kittle's number one. Okay. Trey McBride. Number three. You got the easy ones. Yeah. I'm just staring at the desk so I don't get accused of cheating. Good. Yards per route run for tight ends. I really have almost no idea. But how about John-O-Smith?
Starting point is 00:30:18 Number five. Okay. Who's left? What? One left? I'll tell you who's left. It's one left. No, I've got, we got Kittle, Bowers, McBride and Johnny were the top, or four of the top.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Yeah. You're looking for number two here. Number two in yards per route run among tight ends. Man, I have literally no idea. Um, three. David Najoku. That was going to be my guess. It wasn't Tucker Kraft. Five. TJ Hawkinson. All right, one more guess.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Jamie's got to rack his brain, try to steal top five tight ends in yards per outrun. Number one is Kittle, number three McBrideide, number four, Bowers, number five, John Smith. Who is number two? I guess I'll choose the one that I would feel dumbest if it was right. Samuel Porter. All right, Jamie, can you steal from Heath or is Heath going to win again? He's probably going to win again. I'm going to, this is a terrible guess, but Isaiah likely.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Not a bad guess. It is actually Dallas Goddard. Mr. Efficiency, Dallas Goddard is number two among tight ends in yards per out run. All right, give me, oh, Heath wins. Give me Dave, give me JB. I'm leaving Heath off of this one. I don't think he'd be very good at this category. Top five non-mission impossible Tom Cruise movies
Starting point is 00:31:45 according to Rotten Tomatoes. Jerry Maguire. All right, so Dave, you have to say your name. You are wrong. Jerry Maguire somehow, some way is not on this list. Top five non-mission impossible. It was in the top five sports movies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Jamie, what's your guess? What's the category? The highest rated Tom Cruise movies that are not in the Mission Impossible series, because like almost all of the Top Gun. Yeah. Top Gun. Which one? How is Top Gun not Top Five? All right. Keep guessing.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I've got a couple of guesses. That I think Jerry Maguire when it should have been Top Gun. And it's not Top Gun. Either of you could Jerry Maguire when it should have been Top Gun. And it's not Top Gun. Either of you could guess. Top Gun is not in the top five. Jerry Maguire is not in the top five. Top five according to Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, it's the highest rated ones. Yeah. Risky Business.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Risky Business is number two. Oh. I'm just going to let Dave choose pass or play. I don't know if I can name five other Tom Cruise. Oh, maybe I could. I'm still passing. Okay. Jamie, we've got number two, Risky Business.
Starting point is 00:32:58 What are the other top five non-mission impossible Tom Cruise movies according to Rotten Tomatoes? Yeah, that's a good guess Dave. Rain Man is number five. What is that? Can I ask a question? Yeah. Are they action movies or non-action movies?
Starting point is 00:33:19 Oh, wait. They can, I mean, they could be action movies. They just are not Mission Impossible. Not Mission Impossible Days of Thunder One strike another sports movie. I don't even know that movie He's a NASCAR driver No, no, no, no. Um,
Starting point is 00:33:44 Vanellis Guy. I like that guess. That's a good guess. Incorrect. Uh, I don't know. All right. Dave, you got a chance to steal. Heath just bursted out of his seat there. I would imagine a few good men would be at the top of the list. Dave, you got a chance to steal. Heath is just bursting out of his seat there. I would imagine a few good men would be
Starting point is 00:34:08 at the top of the list. A great guess. This is a terrible list. I don't know what's wrong with people. All right, Heath, go ahead. I thought that was obvious, but I would say cocktail. Cocktail? You guys think cocktail is gonna be on this list?
Starting point is 00:34:22 No. All right, number five. I wish I had a cocktail right now with the way this game's going. Number five, Rain Man. Did you guys say that one? I forget. Yeah, yeah, Jamie said that one.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Number four, Minority Report. Oh, yeah. Number three, Edge of Tomorrow. Never seen it. I like that movie. Number two, Risky Business. Also never seen it. And number one, Top Gun. Maverick. That's horrible. Yeah, it's a Top Gun. Maverick is definitely better than Top Gun, but it is not the best non- No, for you not to give us the yes on that is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I completely disagree. Heath, you agree with me, right? I'm not giving them, they said Top Gun, they did not say Top Gun Maverick. When he said Top Gun, I asked for a clarification, which one? You shouldn't have even done that. You assumed, I think you should have asked him.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I think you assumed it was the old one, because you know he likes the old one more, but I think you should have asked him, old or new. No, you either say Top Gun or you say Top Gun Maverick. If you say best Arnold movie and I say Terminator, I'm wrong, it's Terminator 2. I don't get to follow up with which one. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Okay. Great games. Heath wins again. One more game, Fantasy Cops after this. Yeah, one more game and then fantasy cops to be clear. After this break on fantasy football today. All right, we are back with our last game and it is who had more?
Starting point is 00:35:55 Who had more is usually who has more but we're not in season right now. So who had more? Anyone please feel free to answer. Actually, I should. Do we need to say our name? I feel like everyone should guess. Everyone should guess and we'll just tally up the answers.
Starting point is 00:36:10 All right? Okay. All right, who had more? Carries inside the five yard line, James Cook or Josh Allen? And we are gonna go Heath, Dave, Jamie for this one. We'll alternate the order here. But who had more carries inside the five yard line? James Cook or Josh Allen?
Starting point is 00:36:28 I will go with Allen. Dave? Allen? Allen. Jamie? Cook. Jamie gets the point. James Cook had more 13 to 10, but he only had 48% of his team's carries inside the five yard line, which is not,
Starting point is 00:36:46 which is very low compared to a guy like Kyron Williams, 83%, Josh Jacobs, 73%, Derek Henry, 95% of his team's carries inside the five yard line. Jamie gets a point. Dave, Jamie, Heath will go in that order for this one. Who had more carries inside the five yard line? Jalen Hertz or Saquon Barkley? Hertz, Hertz. I'll go Hertz. inside the five yard line, Jalen Hurts or Saquon Barkley? Hurts.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Hurts. I'll go Hurts. It is Hurts, 18 to 13, Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts had the third most behind Kyron and Henry. Who had more carries of 20 or more yards? Jamie, Heath, Dave. That's not the, it's not between you guys. Who had more carries of 20 or more yards?
Starting point is 00:37:23 Jordan Mason or Aaron Jones Jordan Mason I'll agree Mason. I'll say Jones and Jamie and Heath get the point. It is Jordan Mason and it wasn't even close nine to three Jordan Mason had nine carries in like half a season of 20 or more yards about that. Who's your favorite handcuff or second fiddle in a backfield this year? I struggle with three of them. It's a Charbonneau, Garendo and
Starting point is 00:37:58 Mason. And currently Garendo's my favorite, but I tend to gravitate toward Jordan Mason a lot. I think the difficulty in answering that question is determining who's the second fiddle in about 17 different backfields. Okay, well, we won't go through all those backfields. Let's get back to the amazing game. Who had more rushing touchdowns? Xavier Worthy or Isaiah Pacheco?
Starting point is 00:38:28 And we're at Heath, Dave, Jamie for this one. Who had more rushing? I'll go Worthy. Worthy. I'll say Pacheco, just be different. Jamie, you're giving away your advantage because Heath and Dave get the point. Xavier Worthy, three rushing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Isaiah Pachecoco one rushing touchdown. All right, as it stands right now, Jamie has two, Heath has two, Dave has one. Actually, Jamie and Heath have three, Dave has two. So you all got the Hertz-Barkley one. I was definitely keeping score over here because I knew you were going to mess the score up. Well, I got the margins right.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I just forgot about the one where you all got it right. All right, Dave, then Jamie, then Heath. Who had more PPR fantasy points? Tyreek Hill or Johnnu Smith? Johnnu. Tyreek. Johnnu. Dave and Heath, get the point.
Starting point is 00:39:21 It was Johnnu Smith. He had about six more PPR fantasy points than Tyreke Hill. All right, updated score. Jamie and Dave had three, Heath has four, right? That's correct. Okay. Jamie then Heath then Dave, who had more touchdown catches Malik neighbors
Starting point is 00:39:40 or Rashad Bateman? Rashad Bateman. Bateman? Rashad Bateman. Bateman. Heath with his wax on wax off technique there. I will say neighbors just to try and get in the lead. And you made a silly mistake because it is Bateman and now you are farther away from the lead. So Heath gets, he has, all right, what's the score?
Starting point is 00:40:07 Five for Heath. Five for me, four for Jamie, three for Dave. Okay. Who had more rushing yards? Lamar Jackson or Jaden Daniels? And it's Heath again, right? Heath, Dave, Jamie? Yep.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I'll go Jden Daniels. Daniels. Lamar. Jamie with the point. Lamar Jackson, 915. Jayden Daniels, 891. Your top two quarterback rushers. All right, so are we tied here?
Starting point is 00:40:40 Yeah, we are tied with Dave two points back. All right, so Dave is out. You can still play, but you go first, Dave, then Jamie, then Heath. Who has more wins as of today? The Cincinnati Bengals from last year or the Chicago White Sox through 36 games. Who has more wins, the Bengals in 2024
Starting point is 00:41:04 or the Chicago White Sox through 36 games? Dave? I'm not playing. Okay. Jamie. The White Sox. Bengals. Jamie wins the White Sox 10 wins the Bengals 9 wins in 2024. The Bengals were the only team with exactly nine wins last year and congratulations to the White Sox. You've beat the stupid White Sox last night started Sean Burke in one of our leagues had a lead through six. Yep.
Starting point is 00:41:37 And they blew it. Did you see how they blew it? No. There was a pop up in the ninth inning to the second baseman, and I can relate because, you know, I'm E4. Pop-up to the second baseman, it hit him in the head. He just missed it, hit him right on the head. It was-
Starting point is 00:41:53 Is he okay? Yeah, it was so white socks. It was, wow. By the way, these NBA playoffs are insane. The Pacers, what was crazier, the Pacers or the Nuggets? I don't even know. I think probably the Pacers. The Pacers are down.
Starting point is 00:42:12 They were down seven with a minute left or something. I saw the stat. I'll just read it. It's from- He better be working on boxing out on the free throw line tonight. Yeah. This is from Jamal Collier, who cites ESPN research since 1997 98 teams are three and 1640 when trailing by seven or more points
Starting point is 00:42:39 in the final minute of the fourth quarter overtime three and 1640 the Pacers this postseason have two of those three wins. Unbelievable. Okay, all right guys, let's finish the show with something awesome. The Fantasy Cops. Okay. Heath, the one you had.
Starting point is 00:43:02 We had actually a comment that I thought was a good transition from the game to the fantasy cups. Adam needs to set clear and concise rules for these games ahead of time the way a good commissioner would. I mean, I mostly do. It's like a couple of rules that I make up on the fly. I just thought we could transition from your hosting to your commission.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Geez, I don't want to talk about that. But listen, when the rookie draft, up on the fly. I just thought we could transition from your hosting to your commission. Oh, geez. I don't want to talk about that, but listen, What's that rookie draft? Did you read the one from Camo? Heath? Oh, my. Buntz? I don't think so, no.
Starting point is 00:43:36 OK. So let's start it over. My name is Camo, and I am currently in a 12 team dynasty league, full PPR. Our commissioner has been busy and somewhat MIA since the end of last season. A lot of the guys in the league have been bugging him to set our draft order for the upcoming rookie draft. Okay, wait a second. I thought you read a fantasy cops on your show that you thought may be in today's notes,
Starting point is 00:44:02 but what you were saying earlier Heath is that I am a terrible commissioner and you were making fun of me and my commissioners. Okay, well, that means all four of these fantasy cops were gonna be new and unique, so that's good news. Our commissioner has been busy and somewhat MIA since the end of last season. A lot of the guys in the league have been bugging him to set our draft order for the upcoming rookie draft.
Starting point is 00:44:23 He finally did, and our league has been in an uproar. The order he originally published is currently set based off of last season's standings in reverse order. However, a few of the league mates reminded us that we had a discussion last season to change the rookie draft order for the bottom six teams, picks one through six, to max points to alleviate any future tanking issues. A couple of our league members, including myself, went back and forth in our chat debating
Starting point is 00:44:50 on draft order and how it should be set. After a good bit of commotion, our commissioner decided to change our draft order to reflect maximum points and abandon the reverse standings. I had a few problems with this ruling for a couple reasons. Firstly, our bylaws clearly state that a majority of seven must vote on an issue to pass a new rule or that rule would be tabled for a later discussion. One manager looked at our chat history from before the season and saw that a few league mates voted to adjust the rules to max points and the commissioner said at the time that
Starting point is 00:45:23 he was going to implement the rule in the upcoming season to stop any teams from tanking. Fast forward to now, our commissioner said he trusted his decision that he made over a year ago and that's why he stuck with it despite not having an official vote to change the rule. Only four league managers voted in the poll, which is not enough according to our bylaws. Based on reverse standings, I would have the second pick, but in max points, I would have the sixth pick. On the other hand, the main league mate pushing the commissioner to change for max points would move from the sixth pick to the second pick. At this moment, the commissioner has stated that max points will stand, screwing me in
Starting point is 00:46:03 our upcoming draft. However, after speaking with the league, we decided to let the fantasy cops make the ruling and set the precedent. Should we roll with the non-democracy decision to change to Max points for rookie draft order, or should we have an official vote to decide? And if we should vote, does it apply moving forward or to this past season? Do I need to re-explain anything or we have it? Let me just make sure I've got it right. The options for us are to either change the rule
Starting point is 00:46:35 to something that didn't have a majority or let it go to vote again so that it does get a majority. So when you say- It may not. When you say re-explain, is it have to be top gun maverick or just top gun? You're not, you're so wrong about that. We should first find some, some common ground. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Like one of the bedrocks of a commissioner's duty for a dynasty league is to be able without controversy and without confusion, quickly and orderly establish the order of the draft and show that order to the league and then not open a draft room with a completely different order and completely different distribution of picks. And so I think any commissioner that does that should be severely penalized up to and including losing his commissioner privileges. If you want to be the commissioner, please, by all means, you could be the commissioner.
Starting point is 00:47:32 But no. All right. So listen, they're either going to do for the first six picks, they're either going to do reverse order of the standings or they're going to do highest win percentage gets the first pick because that was implemented to avoid tanking. The problem is the rule was implemented without seven votes to pass the rule. But I look at it like the commissioner said he was going to do it before the 2024 season started.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Right? So managers... There's no majority vote with that. You got to ask if anybody else wants to be commissioner. No, we don't have, like, we don't have to kick people out of the commissioner role for every little issue that there is. It's not a little issue. He, he'd said that you, for a rule change to happen, this have to happen. He didn't change the rule and didn't follow the procedure.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah. He made a mistake. So he doesn't have to lose his commissionership. I mean, um, guy's so harsh. Uh, anyway, what are you guys talking about? You again? Um, I would say, take it to vote again. I'd probably have a vote. Oh yeah. Yes. Just vote again. Yeah. But do you vote? I never did vote, right? They just had a conversation in the chat about it. I don't think they've held any votes. A few league mates voted to adjust the rule to max points. And then the commissioner said he was going to implement it. Only four league managers voted in the poll.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Right. So it was like, it was, it was a problem. Yeah. It was brought up for a vote. The man, the commissioner thought, okay, this is a good idea. I'm going to implement it. I don't really have a problem with that. You know, like you got to go back. Did anybody put up a stink when the commissioner, this is what I would say. Did anybody put up a stink when the commissioner implemented the rule before the 2024 season? Or are you just putting up a stink now because you're getting screwed? I, I,
Starting point is 00:49:23 you know, I think it should stay. I think it should be max points. I think that there was a vote, four people voted in the poll. There was support for it. If there wasn't a blowback, a pushback on it before the season started and then the commissioner implemented it and nobody said anything, then I think it should be max points personally. I think now it sounds a little bit like sour grapes to me.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Anyone feel that? Yeah, take the vote again. So top one's Maverick, right? Stop! I'm gonna guess six to eight of the people who didn't vote beforehand had no idea this whole conversation took place because they only look at the league website when the commissioner messages them
Starting point is 00:50:04 and tells them it's time to do something. I can't believe you like older Maverick versus younger Maverick. Top Gun Maverick is so much better than Top Gun and Rotten Tomatoes proves it. But I would say that, look, you got to go back and you got to see the circumstances here. But if there's no, it's not clear that I guess vote again. But if you vote again, do you vote and implement it now or for next year? Dallas Goddard agreed to a contract restructuring. He's staying in Philadelphia. Oh, that's a pretty big deal. All right. Do you, do you vote for 2024 or 2025? Maybe I'm the only one who should answer this.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I don't think you can vote now. I've already given my answer. Which is what? Have a vote if you want to change a rule. Yeah, but do you do it for 2020 for this season or for next season? For any rule you want to change. I would say no rule has been changed
Starting point is 00:51:01 because we don't have any rule that seven people have voted for. I think it's gotta be for next season. There's too much. There's there's there's too much at stake right now. Like You decide no i'm the only one answering this question apparently You just already answered the question. But like what you're gonna obviously people like my answer It's not that i'm not answering you just don't like my answer. No, I don't I don't mind your answer at all. I just
Starting point is 00:51:24 You're gonna vote now to implement a rule for this upcoming draft. Obviously people are so biased at this point, right? They're going to just vote. Is it that you like the football game on the beach better than the volleyball game? I don't get it. It's that you're going to- The volleyball game was one of the worst pieces of cinema ever created. Dave, what's your take on this? Sorry, repeat your take. I think they played on a badminton net. There's two votes to be made. Okay. The first one is, are we going to vote on this changing in 2025 or 2026? And then the
Starting point is 00:51:53 second vote is, do we do max points or standings? You get every person in the league on the horn and you say, listen, you got to vote for the league immediately. If that was the case, why would you quit immediately? I don't want to talk to anybody. Just make the rule. I'm kind of okay with the commissioner just doing what he thinks is best, but that's another option here. But the problem is that the commissioner just does what he thinks is best. Now he could do it again and you might be unhappy with that. does what he thinks is best now, he could do it again, and you might be unhappy with that. And the best way to just be a commissioner
Starting point is 00:52:27 is to let it be a democracy. And if you wanna abstain from voting, if you're like Jamie, you don't care, you don't wanna pick up the phone, then abstain. But then don't complain. Yeah. Which death was tough for Gooses or Iceman? Gooses.
Starting point is 00:52:43 No spoilers. Yeah, seriously. It's been out long enough. All right. This is from Rob W. Sorry, we couldn't be more helpful. You got a few different options there to go with. I just gave the most proper answer you could possibly give to that ridiculous question. All right. Rob W from the land of, I don't know how to pronounce that, so I'm not going to say it.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Startup Dynasty Super Flex Salary League. So I'm not gonna say it. Startup dynasty super flex salary league. I always have, okay, whatever. The chat, I joined the league. The chat was full of the usual fantasy trash talk fun until someone said that we need to cut it out. Unknown to me, one of the members asked the commission if his 12 year old son can join and run a team. No one told the rest of the league.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Now, anytime someone does that- I did read this one on the dynasty show. You did? Did you really? Yeah. Okay. All right, I'll read it again. Anytime someone does any playful trash talking, creates a clever, inappropriate team name, et cetera, the dad chimes in and has the commission erase the comments and tell the owner to change their name. This year, he even changed my team name without telling me. you didn't say the name of the team. You didn't say the team name. Did you? I did not. Okay, good, but it's pretty, you
Starting point is 00:53:51 know, it's inappropriate to make things worse. When we run our rookie and free agent drafts, we have to pause it for half the day while the kid goes to school and early at night when it's bed time, not to mention the potential for collusion because what dad wouldn't help their son succeed? I really want to hear Heath's favorite line of kick him out of the league. Also the dad keeps trying to high road us, but what kind of dad lets his 12 year old play in a high dollar league with other grown men, some of which he doesn't even know. A bit ironic if you ask me.
Starting point is 00:54:18 So what should we do? Should we be allowed to have the fun that all fantasy leagues have with trash talking, stupid team names, etc. or is the commission allowed to silence us all and censor everything that's fun about being in a league with friends because of the kid he allowed to join without telling us? Love the show. Been listening since the Nando days. Hey, shall I make a time to get on a phone call? Discuss this. Jamie's not full of helpful advice today, I guess, with the fantasy. No, I mean, look, if the rest of the league wants the kid out of it, then it sucks for
Starting point is 00:54:50 the kid, but he's got to get out of the league, find somebody else to replace. You know how some movies are rated PG and some are rated R? Maybe some fantasy leagues should be rated R and you shouldn't have young people in them. He's like, what was the rating on Top Gun Maverick? I don't know. Adam, which is your favorite Ghostbusters? Ghostbusters too. You know this.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Oh, it's the worst one. Where do you think it ranks on Rotten Tomatoes? In what? The Ghostbusters? Yeah, there's five Ghostbusters movies. If it's not second, then I never go into Rotten Tomatoes again. It's number four. Yeah, give me a freaking break. That movie is so funny.
Starting point is 00:55:36 It is on all the time because people love it. Yeah, it's a no, it's on all the time because people recognize Bill Murray and they'll people love that movie. It's great. No one laughs at Ghostbusters. Oh, it's so funny. Come on the scene where Rick Moranis is like runs into the coffee table Oh hilarious. Oh Just laughing right now. Hi comedy. So you guys want the 12 year old out of the league Heath? What did you recommend yesterday? Or whenever that was basically what I said
Starting point is 00:56:02 I think it's not just the just the fun that everybody wants to have and the dad's apparent trying to kill the fun, which is a dad's job. But it's also that like this, a form of more I remember from the email is a money league with not a small amount of money. And I've never seen a better case for collusion than a dad helping his 12 year old son with his fantasy team in a league
Starting point is 00:56:26 that we're all playing for money. Yeah, I think I'm sorry. He's got to go. All right. Next one is from Jeff. Any town you want to pick in Minnesota, Dave? Minnetonka. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I run a 12 team dynasty league. The bylaws of almost all of my leagues he runs several Have activity rules the state that you must they state that you must respond to all trades And if you are found to be inactive for two weeks, you can be replaced I also say in the document that if you're going to take a break from dynasty or whatever that you need to tell me Well, I had this happen and after a trade offer and several tags, this manager didn't respond but it showed that he read the message and saw the trade. A month passed, I replaced him. Two weeks later, he asked if he has been booted out.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I said yes for inactivity. Two weeks after that, he goes into a prior year's league chat and raises a stink about it. Half the league starts yelling at me. I buckle, I break, I tell the replacement owner he understands and I bring back the old manager. Of course, it's weird vibes now. Also in the bylaws, if you trade a future first or second, you must pay for that year. So the manager who originally got kicked out had paid for 2025. But in the bylaws, I do specifically say there
Starting point is 00:57:39 are no refunds. Anyway, this guy is back and he's happy. The league seems appeased. Am I a bad commish? Am I evil? Did I do the right thing? Should I have kept this manager out of the league? Fantasy cops is my most favorite segment ever. So I was kind of excited to post a story for the cops. What do you guys think? How did he commit here? Jeff? I'm deferring to Heath on this one because I know that Heath has experience running a dynasty league where there are people who aren't very active. Like it depends.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I think if you're going to make a rule like this, then you need to plan on being an extremely active commissioner and reaching out to people. If somebody like somebody doesn't respond for a couple of weeks, life happens. Let's let's reach out to the guy and find out why before we kick him out of the league. Kindler, gentler Heath Cummings. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta you gotta be like, Hey, listen, if I hey listen, I'm about to kick you out.
Starting point is 00:58:47 All right, last one. This is from Danny from a city with an MLS team. Portland. Hi, Dave, Chris, Nate, and Taylor. Dave, I'm looking at you. Dave, Chris, Nate and Taylor. I've got another confession to make. It's the Foo Fighters.
Starting point is 00:59:11 All right, I have a fantasy cops question. Football edition. I play in a fantasy soccer league, using players from the English Premier League. Most of the time, these soccer teams play once a week and we have weekly head-to-head matchups just like we would in fantasy football. Occasionally, however, teams play twice in a week,
Starting point is 00:59:30 which obviously could present a huge advantage for managers who have players who get two games instead of just one. To combat this, we set a rule years ago. When a player plays multiple games in a single game week period, only the highest score achieved by that player in a single game from that set of multiple games will be counted as part of that team's overall
Starting point is 00:59:51 score that game week period. So we're currently in the playoffs and I had a player with a double game week, but he was suspended for his team's first game of the week. In the second game, he put up negative seven points. While it's uncommon for players to score negative points in our league, it's certainly not unheard of and happens more frequently than in football. My question is, should I receive zero for the suspended game
Starting point is 01:00:16 or negative seven for the game, the only game that he actually appeared in? The difference here is the difference between me winning and moving on to the next round or getting eliminated from the playoffs. It's the negative seven. I have one very important question. Does the rest of his league also listen to our show? I don't know. But if this is about Top Gun Maverick, I don't really know.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Because if the rest of the league doesn't listen to a show, we should favor in the person that's writing to us about another sport and Help out our listener if it's like our whole fantasy league listens to your show But we also play in a fancy soccer question a fancy soccer league then, you know, we should be a little bit more diligent Wow, I don't love your I don't love your morals today. I don't love it. I think there's an obvious my morals Yeah, I gave you a different answer and you Azerstadted your own game. You gave the wrong answer. Yeah, I thought he said or anything. You said a different movie.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I don't love anyone's morals today, except Heath. I think there's an obvious answer. I believe the term. Heath kicked the child out of a fantasy league. In soccer is nil, which represents zero, which also represents the number of soccer questions we should take on this show.
Starting point is 01:01:27 No, this is a great, this is the best one we've had. This is a great question. And I think the answer is you get the negative seven. You don't get like he was suspended. He didn't play. You get the negative seven. Right. In fantasy sports, you never start the player who suspended for a game.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Yeah, this is great. This is a great question. No, one game. Yeah, this is great. This is a great question. No one game. It's minus seven points. I'm sorry that. It's your team. OK, so you have two votes for negative seven, one for nil and one for
Starting point is 01:01:55 we're going to manipulate the answer, depending on how many people from your league are listening to it. So, but Jamie, what would be your answer if they were all listening? Pete Mitchell is the best pilot I've ever seen. Okay. And that's it for fantasy-
Starting point is 01:02:11 I think Jamie's lost that loving feeling. Yeah, I think so. True. That's it for fantasy football today. Thank you everybody for watching and listening. We appreciate it. We will talk to you tomorrow with another edition of FFT.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Have a good one.

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