Fantasy Football Today - Grade the Trade, Adams/Cooper Talk, Broncos-Saints and Fantasy Feud! (10/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

Before we get into the Fantasy trades, we review the real trades (3:00) and update our thoughts on Davante Adams, Amari Cooper, Garrett Wilson and everyone else affected by yesterday's moves. Then we...'ve got some buy low (14:00) players for you including Chris Olave and De'Von Achane ... Who should you sell high on (26:25)? Is Deebo Samuel a good player to trade right now? What should you look to get in return for Bijan Robinson? We also grade your trades (36:15) and assess the values of the players involved ... Previewing Broncos-Saints (46:40)! Are Javonte Williams or Courtland Sutton in play? Then we play Fantasy Feud (53:00) and end with some interesting advanced stats (59:30) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:16 He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Welcome, everybody, to Fantasy Football Today, presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas, where Devontae Adams no longer plays football. We have real trades and fantasy trades to talk about today. Buy low, sell high, but we're going to get a lot of your trades so we can put trades into better context for you. Try to give you a little bit clearer, maybe targets of who to look for if you're going to trade someone or trade for someone. I'm Adam Azer with Heath Cummings and Dave Richard. Guys, are
Starting point is 00:01:52 you ready for some Fantasy Feud? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Always a fun game. Yes, I'm looking forward to that too. Way better than Jeopardy. I tend to do better in Fantasy Feud than Fantasy Jeopardy. But I have more fun with fantasy jeopardy well i have a lot more fun with fantasy jeopardy because there's just like you
Starting point is 00:02:11 answer a question as opposed to can you get the the right four out of five so that the other person can't guess one yeah you really you question and answer in fantasy jeopardy i guess a better way to say that. But, well, why did I have to nitpick that? That was so unprofessional. I don't know why. And typically, Azar. At least it's better than Who Has More.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Oh, Who Has More is the best. You know you love Who Has More. It would be better if it was Who Got More, and you know it. What was the – who has more – Heath, who has more consonants in their last name? Jamie Eisenberg or Kyle Juszczyk? I would say Juszczyk. Yeah, you'd be correct.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Okay, who has more red zone targets? Aaron Jones or Justin Jefferson? I would say Justin Jefferson. It's Aaron Jones, 7'5". Okay,
Starting point is 00:03:01 listen, we're going to get to some buy lows and sell highs, but let's get Heath's thoughts. He wasn't on our bonus pods yesterday. We'll start with your thoughts. Why don't you rank Devontae Adams, Garrett Wilson, and Amari Cooper rest of season?
Starting point is 00:03:12 I will go Devontae Adams, Garrett Wilson, Amari Cooper in that order. I am mostly on board with what I heard seemed to be the consensus opinion that at least for this week, Devante Adams is going to be a top 12 wide receiver. Don't look at my rankings right now. Good grief. Yesterday was the craziest day in fantasy football analyst history and already our busiest day. So I'll get those rankings updated this afternoon. Top 12 wide receiver for Devante this week, but I think more likely I'd view both him and Wilson, and Cooper for that matter, probably as guys in that 13 to 24 range rest of season.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I think there's more reason to be skeptical of whether Cooper is still the same player than there is Adams, because while Deshaun Watson was awful, Amari Cooper was bad too. Yeah. And listen, Garrett Wilson, we still think is really good. And now every single defender in the secondary is not going to be looking at him
Starting point is 00:04:18 when he runs a route. So that might help. Maybe he gets some of those Alan Lazard. Oh, we forgot to cover you production. So between really 13 and 24 for all three rest of season, help maybe he gets some of those alan lazard oh we forgot to cover you uh production so i i between really 13 and 24 for all three rest of season adams wilson cooper okay and dave i guess a little higher on davante adams you think yeah um i mean i think he's top 12 rest of the way but look toward the bottom like i we we had a whole discussion you missed this when he was on our
Starting point is 00:04:45 cbs sports network show uh where jamie and i got into it about whether or not he was a top 12 wide receiver rest of season jamie was against it i was for it and i i really i thought about it afterwards as i tend to do and i i went back to the trade chart it was before i actually published the trade chart and I really went over it one by one. Is he better than Drake London? Is he really better than Drake London? No.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Is he really better than DK Metcalf? Yeah. I don't know. Is he really better than Tyreek Hill? I'm assuming Tyreek Hill is going to get to a back. No, he's not. But when you,
Starting point is 00:05:19 when you get to Jaden Reed, when you get to the bucks receivers, the Niners receivers, I just think the targets are going to be in Devontae's favor. And I think that the targets are going to be in Garrett Wilson's favor too. But I'm going to say that Devontae is going to be a low-end wide receiver one in New York. I think Garrett Wilson will be a middle-of-the-pack wide receiver two.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And I'm going to buy back into Amari Cooper, thinking that he'll do better with a better quality of target and probably eventually it won't be right away but eventually a better comfort level with josh allen than where he was at with with deshaun watson and he's going to be a little bit better than gary wilson rest of the way i don't really have very much confidence on how good Aaron Rodgers and Devontae Adams, either one, currently are. Rodgers does stuff that looks like Aaron Rodgers during games, and then Rodgers does stuff that looks like he might be closer to Minshew than he is to his peak. Totally. And Adams has had this huge efficiency decline over the last two years that we're just totally saying it doesn't matter because blame it on the QBs. So I think that we're going to find some things out.
Starting point is 00:06:31 But this first game in primetime, I feel very certain that Rodgers is going to just force Devontae Adams into a monster game. And on the other side of it, Omari Cooper this week, probably against LeJarius Sneed. That's not great. Well, that's the other thing. Does Buffalo's run pass rate
Starting point is 00:06:51 change because they got Amari Cooper? Yes. They were very run heavy the last six games of last year. We talked about it all off season. They came out even more run heavy to start this year um well a little bit less run heavy so they were 31st last year after joe brady took over in
Starting point is 00:07:13 in pass rate they're 28th now so well is that basically they are passing more because the league yeah league numbers have changed i haven't looked at the rate the actual rates so it might be about this let's just say it's about the same. They're very, very run heavy. You're absolutely right. And Joe Brady's offense wasn't good for Stephon Diggs. And Amari Cooper, by the way, has basically doubled his drop rate from last year, which was already close to a career high. He's got a 12% drop rate. Is that fluky? I would think so. That's insane, a 12% drop rate. I think he has the second most drops in football, I think I said yesterday he had eight last year. He has six already this season, so he needs to play better. But and probably not. I don't know. I'm not going
Starting point is 00:07:54 to love him against Snead this week, I think in his first game, but I don't know how. Well, I don't know. I shouldn't commit to that. I would just say it's a little little worry, you know, not a great matchup. Hopefully we'll get better after that. I don't even know if he's going to play this week. Yeah, I'm not starting him this week. The difference between Adams and Cooper is that Adams knows the offense. Adams knows the quarterback and just walks in like it's home sweet. He was already there when they made the trade or on the plane when they made the trade.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Of course, Aaron Rodgers didn't know about it yet. Sure he does. I love this tweet from Chris Trapasso. Amari Cooper is second in the NFL with 697 air yards on the year. Khalil Shakir, Curtis Samuel, Matt Collins, Keon Coleman, and MVS have combined for 799 air yards. They have 102 more air yards than Amari Cooper has. And Amari Cooper is fifth worst in yards per target among wide receivers with, I think, 25 or more targets. He's been horrible. It's because a third of the targets have gone over his head
Starting point is 00:08:50 or out of bounds or two feet in front of him. But also the drops. The drops stink, too. There's no question. And he's had drops over his career. It just hasn't been this egregious. 32% of the targets that he had from Deshaun Watson were uncatchable.
Starting point is 00:09:05 That number's going down, man. he's gonna get better throws he's gonna be uh he's gonna remain the focal point of the passing game i think acquiring him was an admission from the bill's front office that they screwed up when they went about trying to put together their receiving core this offseason and they need help and they actually got a pretty good deal, all things considered on renting Amari Cooper for the rest of the season and potentially resigning him after the season. Where's he on the trade chart? I'd have to grab it and take a look. He's outside of my top 24 this week. And I might like, I feel like I might've been too aggressive ranking him inside my top 30 among wide receivers. Heath is right.
Starting point is 00:09:45 The learning curve for him is much steeper than it is for Devonta Adams. There isn't a learning curve for Devonta Adams. I think the Jets fully expect him to be on the same page with Rodgers pretty quickly. It might take a quarter, but I think he'll get there. With Amari, it might take six quarters before he's really on that same page. I don't know where you ranked him, Heath. I'm curious to know where you put Cooper this. Me too.
Starting point is 00:10:07 All right. Let's wrap up. Let's wrap up. And where is he on the trade chart? You asked? Yeah, he is. He's up there.
Starting point is 00:10:14 You know, I think he's going to be a number two wide receiver. I'm looking, looking, looking. I've got him top 20 with who, like who's next to him. He's in the same range as Garrett Wilson,
Starting point is 00:10:25 uh, Terry McLaurin, DJ Moore, and, uh, Devante Smith is higher. Okay. Let's finish up.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Just Heath. Give me your thoughts on the other guys. Jacoby Myers, Jerry, Judy Dalton, Kincaid, anyone else that might be affected. That's not one of these big names.
Starting point is 00:10:44 When Jacoby Myers gets healthy, Kincaid, anyone else that might be affected that's not one of these big names. When Jacoby Myers gets healthy, I think he's going to be right in the Amari Cooper range rest of season as a low-end number two wide receiver, high-end number three wide receiver. Had 28 targets in his last three games, averaged 14 PPR fantasy points per game in those games. I think that's probably about what you're going to get somewhere in that 13 to 15 range from Jacoby Myers. And you're going to feel good about him as your number three or okay about him as your number two, possibly. I'm not near as optimistic about Jerry Judy.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I do think there's a chance this goes back to a more tight end centric passing game. And so maybe David Najoku can be a reliable starting fantasy tight end rest year a top 10 guy i think in deeper leagues you should definitely add jerry judy um maybe we get a second half of jamis winston and an offensive line and judy becomes i don't know a top 40 wide receiver okay all right we're gonna talk yeah i mean any thought I had of dropping David Njoku, by the way, went out the window. Right. Yeah, no chance.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I wasn't going to drop him for Hunter Henry or anything. I'm just going to see where this goes. All right, we're going to tell you who we're buying. Hold on, wait. You want a deep league guy that's related to this? Heath, go check your email. You'll get a kick out of this. Cedric Tillman in Cleveland is somebody who could end up getting
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Starting point is 00:13:48 I want to make this a little bit faster paced. I asked all of you out there for your trades, so we'll look at those and put things in context. But Dave, I know you've got a long list. Who are some players you want to buy low on? I actually have an extremely long list for buy low, so this is a terrible week to try and change what we've been doing. So why don't I do this?
Starting point is 00:14:06 I will name three running backs. You can tell me which one we should highlight. If any, maybe some of them just make sense. Here are the names. Tank Bigsby, Ramondre Stevenson, James Connor. Ramondre. Gibson stunk last week. Drake Mays giving this offense some life.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I'm assuming we'll see Ramond Ray Stevenson back sooner than later. And when we do, he'll theoretically be in a better offense because of Drake May. Okay. Okay. Okay. This is perfect. James Connor. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Easiest fantasy strength of schedule in weeks 15 through 17 he plays the patriots the panthers and the rams he's got two games against seattle in the three weeks before then you could also get trey benson boom you've got a potential number two fantasy running back ready to go between those two cardinals i i just don't know the only thing like i don't know that i want to be betting on two months from now with a 29-year-old running back who misses time every year. Fair. That's why you get Trey Benson.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I think it's just a committee if Connor's out, like it was last week. Well, what was the committee? It was Benson and DiMarcato, and it ended up being more of DiMarcato because they were chasing points. DiMarcato's playing with Connor anyway. Right. Would DiMarcato get they were chasing points. DiMarcato's playing with Conor anyway. Right. Would DiMarcato get more carries if Conor were out, or would Benson just get Conor's work?
Starting point is 00:15:31 I don't know what happened last week, so I can't speak on what actually went down last week. DiMarcato got more carries last week. Not more carries than Benson, I don't think, but more carries than he does when Conor plays. I don't know if that was because of the game script. Also, I don't know what kind of game scripts the Cardinals are going to be in
Starting point is 00:15:48 because their offense has been disgusting recently. That's true. Okay. Well, then I would throw out a possibility. Is Kyler Murray a good by-low right now? And I know he's probably, let's assume he doesn't have Harris in this week. But, you know, I brought it up. I don't know if it's still true, but going into the week,
Starting point is 00:16:05 it was career highs in like almost every important category for him. He just wasn't throwing enough, and people are going to be pretty down on him. Would you consider Kyler Murray a buy low? Are they going to throw more when they're playing the Patriots and the Panthers? Well, that's no, but those are... I mean, the Panthers. Well, that's... No, but those are... I mean, the Panthers, you don't have...
Starting point is 00:16:28 He's got the Panthers and the Rams in Weeks 16 and 17. Those teams are terrible against the pass. But unfortunately, he has the Bears and the Jets coming up in Weeks 9 and 10, and then a bye week. All right, sorry, let's move on here. I think if you've got Kyler Murray, or if you acquire Kyler Murray, you're going to need a second quarterback to go with him.
Starting point is 00:16:45 All right, Dave, who else you got? This is a good pace. I like this. Which position do you want? I don't have any quarterbacks to buy low on, so let's just go to wide receivers. I don't have any tight ends either. Wide receivers, same name, top solace as last week, Tyreek Hill.
Starting point is 00:16:58 So let's pause there. I feel a little less confident that Tua's coming back next week than I did a week ago because he's still undergoing testing this week. It seems like a little unrealistic. I shouldn't say that. I have no idea. But I was starting to get this good vibe that he was coming back when first eligible,
Starting point is 00:17:15 which would be week eight. Do you feel that way now with Tua? A little, but I do expect him to be back at some point. So this is twofold. Number one, when Tua comes back, and he might be a little rusty. Who knows if he'll be a little anxious, jumpy because of what he's gone through. But eventually, I would expect him to be back to his old self. And if he's his old self, then I expect Tyreek to be his old self.
Starting point is 00:17:40 The other thing is that Tyler Huntley has now had yet another week, actually two weeks of the practice to get on the same page as Tyreek Hill and you saw a little bit more of that in their game before the buy so I'm thinking that Tyreek Hill can start to maybe flirt with being a low-end number one wide receiver with Huntley and then once Tua gets going we're talking top five with Tyreek it's a risk I get it but he's on the buy low list because I think you'd still get him at a discount. I think you can get Brian Thomas Jr. at a discount. Let's add to the Cardinals stockpile and put Marvin Harrison Jr. on the buy low list. And maybe one of my favorite buy lows of all, because his value is in the tank right now, is Chris Olave. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Okay. What would you give up for Chris Olave. Okay. Okay. Um, what would you give up for Chris Olave? Would you rather have, would you give up? I'm, I'm assuming you're saying tank Bixby. Would you give up tanks Bixby for Chris Olave? I think I would.
Starting point is 00:18:36 It's funny. I think all these guys are specifically Olave and Tyreek are in that category where yes, they're good by lows. If you're five and1 or 6-0. And they're also sell lows if you've got two wins or fewer because your season's almost over, and we don't think they're going to be any good in the near future. It might be a month before you can start. Don't forget about the concussion.
Starting point is 00:19:03 It might be a month before you can start Chris Olave. Sure, concussion it might be a month before you can start chris olave sure because you don't want to start him with spencer rattler at least you won't feel good about it but once car comes back hopefully the offensive line will be a little bit so but what i'm saying this should be easy to make deals there because we're like while we're calling them by lows if you're the person sitting out there with tyreek hill or with chris olave and you're under 500, you should be open to selling low. Yeah, it's true. Okay. Heath, Dave, just go ahead. I have one last list. All right. These aren't necessarily buy lows, but we could classify them as such. These are wide receivers who could get traded. So we've already seen three trades yesterday, two involving
Starting point is 00:19:43 wide receivers. Deontay Johnson's in a contract here. Jacoby Myers can be a cap casualty after this year. Christian Kirk does have some contractual issues, but his name's being floated around. Other names that are either in a contract here or cap casualty. Darius Slayton, DeAndre Hopkins, Tutu Atwell, Demarcus Robinson. How about a Chiefs reunion, Heath? Adam Thielen, once he's healthy. I wouldn't be surprised if half these receivers change teams between now and the deadline.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I don't think any of those guys except for Deontay, maybe I missed one, would I think would be better than Juju if they showed up in Kansas City tomorrow. And I'm not sure Deontay would be. I think Deontay would be better than Juju if he showed up in Kansas City tomorrow, and I'm not sure Deontay would be. I think Deontay would be better than Juju if he showed up in Kansas City tomorrow. It might take Deontay
Starting point is 00:20:29 six weeks to figure out the offense. That's the downside. That's why Andy Reid likes to reacquire players that he's had before. I expect MBS to be there by Thursday. Yeah, MBS got cut. All right, Heath, who are some players you're buying low on? him to be at the beginning of the year, but he's not been what we projected him to be. And it seems like now people are discounting him further from what he's been so far. I think
Starting point is 00:21:08 there's a very good chance he sees a reduction in targets, but a significant increase in efficiency to where he can be pretty close to the guy that he's been so far this season. See if you can buy Garrett Wilson for cheaper than what he's been so far, which I think is around wide receiver 15 per game. Well, I am what I think he's 12 or 13 actually. Yeah. The last two weeks.
Starting point is 00:21:31 It's like two spots away. I wasn't trying to confirm. I was actually trying to, he's actually, I think been better than people want to give him credit for the perceived value is. I think you're right. You know,
Starting point is 00:21:41 people, people are so down on him and they shouldn't be. I'm buying Dalton Kincaid. He can't be worse, really, than he has been. Amari Cooper might help him because he needs the defense to be looking somewhere else so he could maybe do something after the catch. I think he's still probably a low-end tight end one rest of season. And then A-Chan is dinged up. It's a concussion. It's been a terrible thing for Tua.
Starting point is 00:22:07 But for most players, that's a one to two week absence. And then they come back and then they just are not impacted for the rest of the year. And I would expect that's the case with A-Chan. I think this offense needs him. And I feel more confident in him in the last month of the season than I do Tyreek. All right. So I have some, some stats, kind of the advanced metrics. And one of the guys I wanted to talk about was a champ. So just tell me what you make of this 61 running backs have 25 or more carries so far. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So this, everything is out of 61 Devon, a Chan ranks 38th and success rate 47th and rush epa 53rd in yards per carry at 3.3 31st in yards before contact per carry which isn't that bad it's 50 50th percentile but 60th in yards after contact out of 61 ahead of only ty chandler he's 59th out of 61 running backs in sorry percentage of carries for zero or negative yards as in there are a lot of them ahead of of only Rashad White and Trey Sermon. He's 50th in avoid rate, and he's 15th, this is the only good one, he's 15th in explosive run rate, which is 12 or more yards. He's having a bad season. I don't know what you guys make of that.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Well, I mean, Duke is receiving metrics now. Yeah, but that was, right, that was a two-a-thing, because he had seven catches the first two weeks. But I'm just throwing it out there. These running back metrics are all really interesting. I think they're very good. Do a very good job of describing what has happened. But we're talking about 56 rush attempts.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I don't know that that tells me. And really for his career, we're talking about 159. Like if you looked at his rush attempts coming, all these same metrics you just cited coming into the year said that Devon Aitian was probably the best running back that's ever played football. Yeah. And over a sample of 103 carries, which wasn't near enough to establish any type of baseline. And now in half that many, he looks like one of the worst running backs in the NFL. And I think the truth is that he's probably somewhere in the middle. You want to know what the truth is that he's probably somewhere in the middle.
Starting point is 00:24:06 You want to know what the truth is? He's a, he's a boomer bust running back. A lot of his runs are going to go for not many yards and then he's going to break a long one. And we saw that last year. A lot of it came in garbage time, which one Heath Cummings pointed out to us during the off season and was a very valid point as it's turning out to be. But all H and S to do to turn a lot of these metrics around is get a carry for miss force it to miss tackle or break a tackle and then house it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And everyone knows he's capable of doing that. And we haven't even touched on what he could do as a pass catcher in the last 90 seconds. So I still, I see that value in him and the trade chart reflects that he's still a top 15 running back in the trade chart and that So I still, I see that value in him. And the trade chart reflects that. He's still a top 15 running back in the trade chart, and that might be low. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Okay. Anyone else, Heath? I said Kincaid. I said A-Chan. I said Garrett Wilson. I followed the instructions and just brought shorter lists this week. I don't care about how short the list is.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I just want to get to more names. So I do appreciate it. This was good stuff here. Um, he's give me a, give me an FFT dynasty promo, man. We had a great show yesterday. The Russell Wilson news, which you didn't even ask me about yet. It was really disappointed broke during the show. I had, uh, Matt Cooper on from couch scouts and we talked the 2025 class with what was on the schedule and then of course the nfl decided we're going to have 17 trades but he was really the most optimistic person that i've heard so far about this class not just the running backs out there were a couple of quarterbacks couple of wide receivers really went through probably a first round of players that he
Starting point is 00:25:42 really kind of likes and they are also doing some uh some really great stuff when it comes to fundraising for western carolina with memberships this month so uh yeah go check out fft dynasty check out couch scouts see if you can help some people out now let's do some sell high here dave ready ready let's do So high. The first name is the big name. It's Bijan Robinson. And as, as I said before, and I'll say again, when we say sell high,
Starting point is 00:26:11 it does not mean get the sky off your team. He's going to be terrible. It means if you can turn him into really good value to really good starters for your fantasy team, you should think about it. He just beat up on Carolina. Carolina is terrible against the run in general, but certainly against zone blocking runs. That's certainly what the
Starting point is 00:26:33 Falcons have mastered this year. They've done a ton of it. And Bijan struggled with it. He's much better at that gap scheme type of run. And the Falcons just don't do a lot of it. They did do some of it against Carolina. He scored on a play like that. But I still think the schedule is going to be a little bit tricky for him moving forward. Not this week. He's got Seattle. Seattle's beat up.
Starting point is 00:26:56 That should be a high-scoring game. But if you can trade Bijan as if he's one of the three best players in fantasy football and you get that type of value for him I'd strongly consider it because Tyler Algier isn't going away and there's going to be games where Kirk Cousins ends up getting the bulk of the work for Atlanta I think they like what Cousins gives them I think they want to still throw the football and it makes me nervous that B. John won't have many games like he had last week where he's touching the ball 20 plus times I don't even know if he's top 18 and carries per game.
Starting point is 00:27:26 He's 12th and carries, but the five guys right behind him have all played one fewer game. So yeah, he's just, he's just not getting that many carries. But one thing I want to add is let's just lay out a scenario where he stays healthy. Maybe Algier fades a little bit.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Falcons are in playoff contention we get to week 15 you're going to want to have bijan for that schedule i was going to say he's got to be on my buy low list right so so i might end up saying you know what three weeks from now we should be buying low on bijan he's been terrible for four weeks he's got the raiders the giants and the commanders in the fantasy playoffs so if you've heard all this and you've got bijan and you're saying oh my goodness man i why would i ever and you've got B Jean and you're saying, oh my goodness, man,
Starting point is 00:28:06 I, why would I ever let him go? That's the point. You're not going to let him go. You're going to try and get a King's ransom for, but if you're going to deal them off, go ahead. Heath.
Starting point is 00:28:18 If the person who has B Jean hat and, and, or breeze, or if the league that has B Jean and breeze, they're back to back within a 10th of a fantasy point of each other.b 15 rb 16 at 15 and a half ppr fantasy points per game i at if that's how they're being valued as far as what they've done they're still by lows but if they're being valued as just just by last week yes then maybe they're still highs okay so would you rather have james cook or bijan robinson bijan would you rather have david montgomery or bijan robinson bijan okay montgomery and you won't have to pay as much for montgomery as you would for bijan would you rather have
Starting point is 00:28:56 jameer gibbs or bijan robinson bijan which that's my point is all these guys have been better than bijan and i would rather have him. So I think he's more of a buy low. I have Gibbs higher on the trade chart by very little. Would you trade Bijan for CD lamb? PPR? Yes. If I had a great running back room and a bad wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:29:22 receiver room. Sure. Okay. All right. Who else? Dave Bij room. Sure. Okay. All right. Uh, who else, Dave? I got a few more names.
Starting point is 00:29:28 I'm going to give you two names quickly. And then if you want to talk about one or both, we can't JK Dobbins, Debo Samuel. Good. Go ahead. Give me 30 seconds on each. Great workload for Dobbins.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Tough schedule coming up after Arizona. You know, the injury history when it comes to JK Dobbins. If you've got Dobbins at tough schedule coming up after Arizona. You know the injury history when it comes to J.K. Dobbins. If you've got Dobbins, at bare minimum, put Kamani Vidal on your bench. That's just kind of a smart thing to do. Because I don't know if Gus Edwards, A, is going to come back, and B, if he does, I don't know how good he's going to be. I think Vidal proved on one play that he's better than Gus. And he'll probably see the one that gets a lot of work
Starting point is 00:30:05 I don't know who else would get it in LA if there's if there's no Dobbins and then with Debo he's coming off of a big game and he should have another one this week especially if those running backs are depleted in San Francisco but eventually McCaffrey will be back eventually um Iuke is going to get going Ricky Pearsall is going to play i don't know what he'll take away from anybody in this offense but it is going to be another player out there kittle's been balling i feel like we're hitting the best of debo right now and you might be able to cash in right now on the side oh go ahead go ahead where i was going to play my game where's debo rank fantasy points per game ppr yep i'm gonna guess he is 15th yeah that's what i was gonna say 25th wow oh and he's 16th among wide receivers on the trade chart so his value might be a little bit inflated based on on that information and if you
Starting point is 00:31:01 find somebody who's willing to pay that inflation then go for it try and turn him into some of the guys that we talked about in bilo see if you can pair something with debo for tyreek hill and then three other names that i just i wouldn't expect a ton in trade but you might get interest tank dell josh downs naji harris harris has a really tough schedule coming up okay heath you are on the clock i've've got, you know what? It's been the last three weeks. I think I said these 29 and older running backs, and now two of them have seen their values crater Aaron Jones and James Connor. There's still two of them that are being viewed as the two best running backs in fantasy football, Derek Henry and Alvin Kamara. I'd be happy to get Bijan and
Starting point is 00:31:46 another starter for one of those guys, Brees Hall and another starter for one of those guys. I'm still selling on the older running backs that haven't fallen off the cliff yet. And I'm selling on Terry McLaurin. He's been a top 12 wide receiver, I believe, over the last three weeks. It's still a very, very low volume pass attack. It's still going to be a hit or miss, I think probably low end wide receiver type season for Terry McLaurin. I think you could get Garrett Wilson plus for him
Starting point is 00:32:18 after this trade. And I think there's a good chance that Garrett Wilson is better than Terry McLaurin rest of the season. Okay. One game with more than eight targets, usually in the Garrett Wilson is better than Terry McLaurin the rest of the season. Okay. One game with more than eight targets, usually in the 7-8 range for Terry McLaurin. He is certainly doing a lot with those targets, but yeah, I guess the way he's playing,
Starting point is 00:32:34 you would think not as many targets as you would want, I guess, for the way he's being valued. Okay. By the way, if you're trading camara or henry for bijan robinson and a starter what kind of starter are we talking about like a jsn or better i don't think jsn's a starter yeah but i don't i mean what kind of i feel like this i feel like you're in fantasyland if you're trying to get a player better than JSN with Bijan Robinson and Ralph Camara. So I guess maybe that's true.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I don't think anybody's giving—like, Derrick Henry scored 10 more fantasy points per game, or 7 more fantasy points per game than Bijan and Brees. Right. It's been an enormous difference. Yeah, you know what? It's hard to say because we probably value Bijan and Henry more closely to each other than average Joe fantasy player does. I think that's your point, right? Yes. Right. OK. All right. Give me I'm going to give a quick shout out to Scott. He wrote us an email on Monday. He said, I had the best day of my life yesterday, which was Sunday, and I had to share it with you all. Caleb Williams absolutely balled out, which was already enough to make it an unforgettable day as a diehard, long-suffering Bears fan
Starting point is 00:33:51 and a Caleb Williams fantasy manager. But to top it all off, I got engaged. It couldn't have been more perfect, watching my team's future unfold, racking up fantasy points, and proposing to my girlfriend, now fiance, all on the same day. Thanks for being such an important part of my fantasy football journey journey here's some
Starting point is 00:34:08 more touchdowns and milestones ahead all right congratulations good stuff scott i'm really happy for you that you got to celebrate caleb williams we picked up aaron rogers okay there are quarterbacks available in this league but what did you have to pay for Aaron Rodgers? Not that much. Only almost every remaining dollar. Only 10% more than Caleb Williams went for. All right, but he's got Adams now. All right, we're going to take a break.
Starting point is 00:34:36 We're going to grade your trades when we come back. Preview Thursday Night Football and play Fantasy Feud. We'll be right back. Okay, let's grade your trades now. So this is from John. Half PPR league, relatively deep. I've got some running back injuries. Play Fantasy Feud. We'll be right back. Okay, let's grade your trades now. So this is from John. Half PPR league, relatively deep. I've got some running back injuries.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I'm thinking of trying to get Ray Davis to back up my James Cook or Tyrone Tracy to back up my Devin Singletary. Do you think Tank Bigsby for either Ray Davis or Tyrone Tracy is a fair trade? I could offer Bigsby to the ETN manager for Tyrone Tracy. Perfect. Yeah, I think all of those guys are in the I don't know category. The difference is that Tracy and Davis both catch passes when their starters out. That's true. I was shocked at how low tank Bigsby came out in my initial projections for
Starting point is 00:35:32 this week, even without projecting Travis ETN just because they don't trust tank at all on passing downs. And that was the case last week. ETN's hurt. They didn't want to play them. They fell behind against Chicago. It was
Starting point is 00:35:45 almost all Dearness Johnson. I think Tank played one snap in the fourth quarter. But they're playing the Patriots this week. Yeah, and that's hopefully a bounce back week. All right, Paul from Canada. I'm 6-0, PPR league. I need a wide receiver. Is Chuba for
Starting point is 00:36:02 IUK a fair trade? No, I think IUuke's worth more so make the trade if you can get it done I think it's it's a good trade I have no idea really on either one of those guys like Iuke is a
Starting point is 00:36:19 very wide receiver too um okay like just 18th I guess would be a good place to put him rest of the season A very wide receiver, too. Okay. Like, just 18th, I guess, would be a good place to put him rest of the season. But he's never going to finish there. He's going to finish top 12 three weeks, and like Debo, he's going to finish outside the top 36 three weeks. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Two weeks ago. How about this? Two weeks ago, you wouldn't have been able to make this trade. Or maybe you would have. I don't know. IU had a big game. game tubes had some big games and then after last week iu comes back down to earth tube is still doing well but the whole world knows that a month from now jonathan brooks could be the best running back in carolina yeah we're going into week seven and brandon iuk has one game with double digit fantasy points we're also going into week seven and chuba hubbard has been freaking awesome.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Jonathan Brooks is coming off a torn ACL that's taken a lot longer to recover than we thought it would. I mean, he's going to have a role, probably, you figure, more than Miles Sanders. But it's quite possible that Chuba Hubbard is just the best running back there. But I would do this trade. I would do Chuba for IU.
Starting point is 00:37:20 We all would. I agree. I do think Chuba... Listen, Chuba's not going away. My guess is that at at the at the onset jonathan brooks will barely play we're talking about like jonathan brooks first game maybe it's this week but he'll barely play and he'll just get carries and then eventually they'll split carries and i think chuba will still have the majority of the work on
Starting point is 00:37:40 passing downs until jonathan Jonathan Brooks really feels comfortable. And then when that happens, I think Chuba could be an afterthought. Let's go. Let's go. Here we go. We got a lot more to play. All right. This is from Jim. He gives up Mahomes. He gets Baker Mayfield. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. I think it's an A-. Certainly what it looks like right now, if a month from now we were all laughing about it, I wouldn't be that surprised about either.
Starting point is 00:38:09 They're dead tied on the trade chart. From Sam, my team is 7-5 in a doubleheader league. I traded Madison, Devante Smith, and Brian Thomas Jr. for Puka and Kyron? A+. Are you confident that Puka is going to be a contributor from, let's say, week 10 on? I think I'd trade those three for Kyron.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Okay. From Matthew, does Jordan Mason have any trade value right now? If so, what kind? The CMC manager has Brian Robinson jr. And Aaron Jones, what would you, what would you try to get?
Starting point is 00:38:50 Would you, would you take Brian Robinson jr. And, or, or, or Aaron Jones straight up for Jordan Mason? Absolutely. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Both those guys, either of those guys, but I think I'd prefer Jones. Yeah. I, I'd prefer Jones. Yeah. I don't know. I don't feel super great about Aaron Jones right now. The 29-year-old running back with a hip injury on his team just traded for a running back? His team traded for a running back because I don't think they were comfortable with the depth that they had.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Ty Chandler's solid at best, and behind him was Myles Gaskin. They went back to somebody who they know and somebody who has looked good in spurts. I don't think it's an indictment on Aaron Jones. What is your level of confidence
Starting point is 00:39:40 in Christian McCaffrey when he comes back? As far as when he's actually playing football, high. As far as him being available to actually play football every single week without issue, kind of low. 30% chance that Jordan Mason
Starting point is 00:40:00 is the starting running back for the 49ers in the fantasy playoffs? Fair. I don't think I'm giving that up for Aaron Jones. I'm giving that up for Aaron Jones. All right, Aaron. If Aaron Jones is out there, he helps me. Might be a 30% chance that Aaron Jones
Starting point is 00:40:14 is the starting running back in the fantasy playoffs. I don't think it's that low. All right, here's Aaron. Here's a different Aaron. Give up Tyreek Hill and Tony Pollard. He's 4-2, by the way. Give up Tyreek Hill and Tony Pollard. He's 4-2, by the way. Give up Tyreek Hill and Tony Pollard. Get Jamar Chase.
Starting point is 00:40:30 The trade chart won't like that, but it's close. He's 4-2. Why would the Chase owner at 1-5 trade? I guess he gets Pollard. Pollard's quite an asset right now. Pollard is an asset right now, but he's probably going to score
Starting point is 00:40:45 fewer points this week than Chase. I don't know. I shouldn't be overanalyzing it. It's fine. See? Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:56 There's an eight-point difference on the trade chart. You need something back with Chase. This is from Rob. Kind of along the same lines as what we were talking about earlier
Starting point is 00:41:04 with the Bijan-Henry type deal. This's from rob garrett wilson and tank bigsby for cd lamb a plus there you go nathan says getting lamb chase brown and waddle for iuk too much for iuk yeah i think chase brown could be it's a possibility he's about to just surge right now. I know he fumbled. Zach Moss fumbled earlier. Chase Brown just took over. He's just been so much better than Zach Moss. I don't know if he's ever going to get the full role.
Starting point is 00:41:34 That was my concern with Chase Brown. I don't think he's big enough. I don't think they trust him on pass protection, but he's not someone I want to be giving up right now. And Waddle might be the same as Ayuk. Right. Perfect. All right. Thank one might be the same as Ayuk. Yeah. Right. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:41:46 All right. Thank you for all your great trades. See if we can get to more at the end of the show. I've got to do some news and notes here. Derek Carr mispracticed. Rashid Shaheed mispracticed. Chris Olave mispracticed. Carr is not going to play.
Starting point is 00:41:57 You should probably expect none of them to play tomorrow against Denver, and we'll talk about that game soon. Pittsburgh could decide on its starting quarterback closer to Sunday. It seems like the writing's on the wall for Justin Fields. Heath and I have him in our Superflex League. We did not quite drop him yet, but we, you know. You can't drop him even if Russell, like, very, very clear, especially in Dynasty, but in any Superflex League,
Starting point is 00:42:21 do not drop Justin Fields before the conclusion of the game against the jets. This is if Russell Wilson makes his debut this weekend, it sounds like he will. This is about as bad of a spot that you could make your debut as it areas against this jets defense in prime time, right after the Devante Adams trade that place, they are going to be so that team is going to be so fired up.
Starting point is 00:42:43 This could be Justin Fields again by halftime. That being said, the Jets could be without two defensive back starters. D.J. Reed, Chuck Clark's on IR and D.J. Reed is also injured. So we'll see if it gets a little bit easier for Pittsburgh Sunday night. Running back news. James Cook has a chance to play this week against Tennessee. Mike McCarthy says Rico Dowdle needs more touches. They have a bye week than at San Francisco at Atlanta. That'll fix the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Joe Person of the Athletic doesn't expect the Panthers to rush Jonathan Brooks back, and he thinks maybe week nine is realistic. The Jets look at wide receiver news. They're going to try to trade Mike Williams, according to Pro Football Talk. The Bills released MVS, and I guess, again, Rashid Shaheed and Chris Olave unlikely to play.
Starting point is 00:43:27 And then this is arguably the biggest piece of news. But Andrew Thomas, left tackle for the Giants, could miss the season. He's got a foot injury. And, you know, the offensive line has been a big part of the Giants' relative success. And now we've got Malik Neighbors, who's been elite. You know, do you guys downgrade Malik neighbors or Wanda Robinson with, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:48 or, I mean, forget about Jones, but well, he's downgraded, but whatever, like what's, what's the impact on neighbors and Wanda?
Starting point is 00:43:56 I don't think it's major enough to downgrade them considerably. You know, it would have helped Mike Williams trade value is If Aaron Rodgers would have just said, yeah, he fell down because I underthrew that ball and that's on me. Well, you can't run the wrong route. You can't do that in that situation.
Starting point is 00:44:18 He shouldn't have called him out. That's being a terrible teammate. Well, he knew what was coming. Yeah, probably. When he said that, I knew that that was, that Devontae was coming. Okay. I mean, I kind of knew
Starting point is 00:44:34 Devontae was coming anyway. Just read the tea leaves, everybody. Yeah. Alright, you guys don't think the Thomas injury is a big deal? I would say that the biggest difference between 2022 and 2023 for the Giants was probably Andrew Thomas. So, right. So if that offensive line becomes a total disaster, then sure, Daniel Jones will get sacked more.
Starting point is 00:44:56 He'll be on the run more. But I don't think it stops him from chucking it downfield to Malik neighbors and hoping that number one makes a play. Okay. Denver is at New Orleans on Thursday night. Okay. Bo Nix is hot right now. Two straight games with 24.7 or more fantasy points. You know what? Forget it forget it like who are we
Starting point is 00:45:26 starting in this game heath um you know i think this maybe one of the most interesting things about this game is giovante williams and the running back position we've got a bunch of running backs who you could conceivably start over giovante williams that we're not going to know on thursday what their situation is and that starts with ray davis austin eckler antonio gibson alexander madison tyrone tracy nick chubb bucky irving isaac grindo we got all these guys that you could conceive of so i've got giovante williams right now ranked as a top 20 running back i've got him ranked ahead of all those guys because i don't know if all those guys are going to be starters or sharing this week i think he is like
Starting point is 00:46:17 where he belongs is probably right at that wide receiver to or running back to flex cutoff. Did like the fact that it seems like he's taking over a little bit more in this backfield. Do like the fact that they just made Bucky Irving and Sean Tucker look like Jim Brown and Nick Chubb. The Saints defense is completely destroyed and it's a short week. So I don't feel bad if I have to start Javante, and I'm very happy to start Alvin Kamara. And that's pretty much it for the entire game. I can think of three other players that I'd be okay starting. And when I say three, I mean 23 players.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Taysom Hill, if he's good to to go because someone's got to catch the ball and then both dsts preferably the broncos over the saints saints low end dst so giovante someone actually dropped giovante one of my leagues and i'm thinking yeah he might might be worth adding here for me because well well, I mean, he might be worth rostering. He dominated snaps last week. I mean, it was a terrible game. And he fumbled. Yeah, and maybe they get Estimé a little bit more involved. It was his first game back.
Starting point is 00:47:34 He only played two or three snaps. He had two carries. The Saints allow 5.4 yards per carry to running backs, the seventh most receiving yards per game to running backs. It is a great matchup. I think he laid it out really well with giovante williams what about courtland sutton so he's coming off um 15.3 fantasy points he has scored 13.8 to 15.3 points in three of his last four games at tampa bay at the jets and home against the chargers doesn't have more than 68 yards in a game yet. He works downfield a ton. I watched all of his targets from week six,
Starting point is 00:48:10 and he could have had a couple of more catches in a bigger game, but Bo Nix threw two very inaccurate passes. But you get some boom or bust there when you work downfield so much, 14-yard ADOT or higher in three straight games for Cortland Sutton. And the Saints are 24th against wide receivers. How three straight games for Cortland Sutton. And the Saints are 24th against wide receivers. How do we feel about Cortland Sutton this week? He's in the flex category for
Starting point is 00:48:31 sure. And it's got to be in PPR. I don't know if I would trust him in non-PPR or half PPR. But I don't think he's that difficult an assignment for New Orleans secondary to deal with. And I think that this is a game where New Orleans can, or for Denver rather, can win with the run.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I think Courtland Sutton is to the wide receiver three what Javante Williams is to the running back two. Like he's just right at the cutoff between wide receiver three and flex. And how do we feel about Kamara? Is he an easy start this week? Because he's coming off 13 carries for 40 yards and a touchdown. Five catches for 24 yards.
Starting point is 00:49:09 But that's 64 total yards on 18 touches. He has now gone. Let's get the counter going. It has been 47 straight games since Alvin Kamara had a run longer than 30 yards. And 18 straight games without a 20-yard run. He might have 15 targets. He's no doubt about it. Top two running back.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I don't know about top two, but everybody's starting Alvin Kamara. Anyone else in this game? Bub means business. Jawan Johnson. I'm sure he's never heard that one before. Jawan Johnson? No.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Would you use Jaleel mclaughlin in dfs kind of taking what you said about giovante and apply it to to him i as much as i like jaleel mclaughlin i don't i don't think he's actually very good i think he's fast i just don't know if he's good so yes all right well i think that's it for this game then no no no no no no no okay bad game it's not going to be an exciting game yeah can you talk for a second please what would you like me to talk about i don't know what's happening adam has something up his sleeve perhaps he's getting some music ready as we transition into what i would assume is the fantasy feud segment of the podcast by the way everybody thank you for your continued support of our award-winning podcast if you haven't already check us out on youtube go to youtube.com
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Starting point is 00:51:10 It's Syracuse, like syrup. Yeah, Syracuse. Yeah, some people say Syracuse, some people say Syracuse. Obviously, it's just pronounced the way it's spelled. It's Syracuse. I've watched a lot of college football on my day. I've never heard anyone call it Syracuse. It's Syracuse.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Joey, I did look irritated for a second. The bright light on the ring light here was really giving me a little bit of a headache, so I just reached over, turned the light off. I'm less irritated now, although I am seeing stars a little bit. Yikes. I'm a little pissed off. I'm seeing stars. I'm on show with Dave Richard.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I think I accidentally deleted that fun game show music. Anyway, let's play Fantasy Feud. Okay, the top five answers are on the board. Say your name to buzz in. And I am looking for the top five rushing leaders. Dave. Dave. Derek Henry.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Derek Henry is the number one answer. Pass or play? We're passing, Frank. Okay. Heath, Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry is the number one answer. Pass or play? We're passing, Frank. Okay. Heath, you are up. You need to get two, three, four, and five. The rushing leaders. Derrick Henry is number one.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Saquon Barkley. Is number four. Man, that would have been embarrassing. Yeesh. Everybody else got hurt. What about Tony Pollard? Chuba Hubbard. Yeah, number three.
Starting point is 00:52:40 All right, we're looking for two and five. Kyron Williams. Oh, I was going to guess Kyron Williams. Oh, there you go. Ah, yeah, I have no idea. Let's go. Don't guess Devon HM. Five, four. Yeah, that'd be a bad guess.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Ken Walker. All right, Dave. We have Derek Henry, Saquon Barkley, and Chuba Hubbard off the board. We are looking for two or five in the top five rushing leaders. What do you got? I was going to say Kyron Williams. I'm shocked that he wasn't up there.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I'll say David Montgomery. Oh, David Montgomery is incorrect. This is embarrassing. Who are these two? Jordan Mason is number two in rushing yards. Jordan Mason. And this one surprised me a little bit. Number five is Josh Jacobs.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Ah, yeah. I almost guessed Jacobs. All right. Heath gets the point. And by the way, Derek Henry has almost 100 more rushing yards than Jordan Mason from one to two. And Jordan Mason has, what, 124 more rushing yards than Chuba Hubbard. There's such a huge...
Starting point is 00:53:49 How could we forget about Jordan Mason? No, it makes sense. He's not the one that comes... Guy hurts his shoulder, and now he's a dumpster. Okay, top five answers are on the board. Not including Rasheed Rice, who are the top five wide receivers in PPR points per game?
Starting point is 00:54:06 Dave. That was close. Schaefer, what do you think? Who buzzed in first? Schaefer has no idea. Yeah, he might be walking the dog right now. I think it was Heath. Go ahead, Heath.
Starting point is 00:54:19 AJ Brown. That is the number one answer. Pass or play? I'll play. Okay. Top five wide receivers and points per game. Malik Neighbors is number two. Nice work.
Starting point is 00:54:35 That was pretty much the end of it. Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson is... Incorrect. Chris Godwin. Chris Godwin is number four. You got three so far. You got one, two, and four. A.J. Brown, Malik Neighbors, Chris Godwin.
Starting point is 00:54:51 We're looking for the best wide receivers per game. Jamar Chase? Hey, he's number five. All right. Big time here. Big time. Who's number three? Is it Jaden Reed?
Starting point is 00:55:09 Wait, that's two guesses wrong? That was two wrongs. Okay. Oh. And they don't make it right. Very good. Drake London. That was going to be my guess
Starting point is 00:55:26 really that was a wrong guess Dave what do we got here whose number Heath just realized that he did you that look of yeah oh I can't believe I forgot this go ahead Dave five a Munra four Nico Nico Collins
Starting point is 00:55:41 we did it again out of sight out of mind. Unbuckled. All right, he takes the first two rounds. Round three, triple the points. It's the only one that matters. The top four answers are on the board. And I'm going to tell you that these are chalky answers.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Chalky answers. You're not going to be stumped by these, okay? This is according to ign.com the top four horror movies of all time heath heath halloween is number four dave you can guess to get three two or one nightmare on elm street okay he's pass or play i'm gonna pass okay d, what do you got here? I'm dead in the water on this one. Saw.
Starting point is 00:56:30 One strike. Friday the 13th. Two strikes. Jerry Maguire. That's a good guess. Give me a real horror movie guess. A real horror movie guess. You got Halloween. Like I said, it's chalky. I mean, Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday, those were good guesses.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Yeah, right, because you said chalky. Yeah, those were good guesses. There's terrible movies. Human Centipede. Heath, all you need is one of them. No, I already won. What do you mean? What do I need? I need one. I got the right answer. You need one. You have to guess.
Starting point is 00:57:01 And you passed. No, no, no. You have to name one here, otherwise you lose. You have to name another one. You passed. Well, I definitely messed that up. I should have passed. Neither one of us would get any of them. Oh, I have a good guess. I would have gotten all of them, probably.
Starting point is 00:57:12 So Dave literally does not get a correct answer the entire game, and he's going to win. It's possible. The Shining. The Shining is number one. Excellent. Yes, Heath. I'm sorry. It was for negative triple the points so dave is
Starting point is 00:57:26 technically the winner but that was great good job dave what else were you gonna guess it no good one it's the exorcist shining one the exorcist two that's wrong by the way exorcist should be number one and psycho is three and halloween is four there we go And I've got my big old orange sweater. I am in the fall mode. The leaves. That sure looks red to me. Oh, it's orange as can be. I promise you. My wife was making fun of me.
Starting point is 00:57:53 She said I was very orange today. So, yeah, that's a lighting thing. Okay, stats that might matter. I'm going to give you guys some stats. Tell me if they matter. Wandel Robinson is second in the NFL in targets. I mean, he's 42nd per game in
Starting point is 00:58:09 non-PPR and 32nd per game in PPR, but he is second in the NFL in targets. Does that matter? Yeah, I mean, that's the whole basis of why he matters at all in fantasy, because I don't think he's necessarily an elite talent.
Starting point is 00:58:26 He's, he's a good role player in an offense and he just happens to get a ton of opportunities every game. And he had a 27.9% target share before Malik neighbors concussion. I think he's probably better for fantasy with neighbors than without. And if Daniel Jones is going to be pressured more because the left tackle isn't playing, then maybe,
Starting point is 00:58:44 maybe even more throws go the one L Robinson at the line of scrimmage. I cannot say that Andrew Thomas being out is good for Wanda Robinson. It's bad for everyone. Demario Douglas is 10th in ESPN's open metric. 10th best wide receiver. Stefan Diggs and Nico Collins are 3rd and 4th. Watching the Patriots-Texans tape, Stefan Diggs and Nico Collins are third and fourth. Watching the Patriots-Texans tape, Stefan Diggs crushed Christian Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Christian Gonzalez was truly shadowing Stefan Diggs, following basically everywhere, and Diggs was owning him, even on plays where he didn't get the ball, and then he killed him on a touchdown catch, and that was pretty much the end of Christian Gonzalez covering Stefan Diggs. We've destroyed the narrative of Christian Gonzalez as a wide
Starting point is 00:59:25 receiver, like a shutdown corner, right? No, I don't think so. He's been very good. No, he's been very good this year against certain wide receivers, but not against Stefan Diggs. He was worked by Stefan Diggs. And I just want to, that's credit to Diggs. He's having a great year, and he's getting open third best open rate, according to ESPN. But why, okay, number,
Starting point is 00:59:41 so, they just don't shadow them. Because number one wide receivers have had a good time against the Patriots. OK, so Jamar Chase did not write DK Metcalf killed the Patriots, but not Christian Gonzalez. And he had like two catches against Gonzalez. Garrett Wilson caught a touchdown, but Gonzalez did a pretty good job against him. I don't know if anybody gets shadowed, but I don't know if I did. And he shadowed Tyreek Hill in week five. Well, that doesn't count. Okay, but he did shadow him in week five.
Starting point is 01:00:09 But I would say his worst game was week six. I would be willing to bet his coverage rating was the worst in week six. But Douglas was really crushing people at the line of scrimmage, getting wide open, very impressive. He's very good. Yes. Yeah, making me a little bit higher on him. Oh, gave you the 8-chance stats.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Here are the top five running back. Actually, I have the top 10. Top 10 running backs in explosive play rate. Tyler Algiers, number one. Bijan is 19th. So what does that mean, explosive play rate? You want to explain that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Percentage of runs over 12 yards. Thank you. Percentage of carries that go for 12 or more yards. Tyler Algiers, one. Chase Brown is two tank bigsby three jonathan taylor four jalen right five jameer gibbs six dobbins seven remandre eight bucky irving nine jerome ford 10 yeah whatever and i think that like putting that list into context is that you should definitely be weighting that list by the number of rush attempts they have.
Starting point is 01:01:08 For sure. Because we're talking about the percentage of rush attempts that go for a certain amount. If you don't have very many carries, it doesn't take very many big runs. Yeah. Okay. Well, the lawnmower is going off. The lawn guy is here. So I think that's time for me to go.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Can you hear that, by the way, or no? No. No. Oh, that's good. All right. Well, it's still time for us to go, because we have reached an hour. Oh, you can't hear that? That's like right next door, right next to the baby. Good to know, good to know.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Well, me and my orange skirt are out of here. We'll talk to you on FFT Express. Thanks so much for watching and listening, everybody, and have a great day.

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