Fantasy Football Today - Greatest Hits and Biggest Misses of 2025 (02/02 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

We've got some more coaching news (3:00) with Klint Kubiak reportedly going to the Raiders and Mike LaFleur going to the Cardinals. We analyze those moves and more before getting into our greatest hits of 2025! We start with Jamey's list (12:30) with Trevor Lawrence as a sleeper and Drake Maye as a breakout. Jamey was also high on Wan'Dale Robinson, George Pickens and Jaylen Warren ... Heath's greatest hits (25:05) include D'Andre Swift, Travis Etienne and calling Alvin Kamara a bust. Who else is on his greatest hits list? ... On to the big misses from our 2025 predictions, Heath (38:50) talks about a couple of rookie running backs, Jerry Jeudy and two stars who were held back by injuries. Jamey (51:35) touches on Xavier Worthy, Michael Pittman, a couple of rookies and a disappointing breakout quarterback call ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What a play! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Super Bowl Week, what's up? Welcome everybody to Fantasy Football today, presented by Bed MGM, Make it Legendary. Adam and Heath are here dressed in hoodies. Oh, you poor guy, it must be so cold down in Florida, huh?

My wife's car had ice on the windshield when she left the house this morning. This is absurd. I'm wearing slippers to keep my feet warm in the house. It's really troublesome here in Florida, but we'll get through it. I appreciate everybody's thoughts and prayers. Jamie will be on soon. Oh, this is horrible weather up here in New York. Just awful and expensive, like plowing and, you know,

oil and all this stuff. I eat it. I eat oil to heat my house. And it takes a lot of oil. You heat your house with oil? Yeah, I have an oil tank. And it takes a lot of oil to heat the house when it's five degrees outside.

So it's really sucks. I hate it. But hopefully it'll be nice in San Francisco this weekend for the Super Bowl. Thursday will have our big Super Bowl preview. Today we're going to talk about our greatest hits and biggest misses from our preseason predictions for 2025. Jamie and Heath will have those.

Jamie and I are going to do FFT Express to talk about all the coaching news. So until he gets on, Heath and I, I'll just kind of run through it real quick. We'll give you some of the analysis here, but the most of it will be on Express. And I will say, well, I'll save it until after the news and notes. Let's do the news and notes. The Cardinals hired Mike LaFleur, Rams offensive coordinator for the last three seasons and the younger brother of Green Bay's head coach.

But they hired Mike LaFleur to be their new head coach. So that's Arizona getting Mike LaFleur. and the Raiders are expected to make Clint Kubiak, their head coach. Kubiak is the Seahawks offensive coordinator. All right. Do you like these for Arizona and Las Vegas and for Fantasy? I am pretty excited about what Kubiak could do with the Raiders. I think it'll be really interesting because we've seen him succeed

with a game plan that focuses pretty heavily on the wide receiver one and the Raiders don't have a wide receiver one. So I'm assuming that he's the brilliant offensive mind that he is will have some very good stuff planned for Brock Bowers. I think they'll get the offensive line fixed, and Ashton Gentile will have a much better year next year. I expect this to be a good thing for the Raiders' offense and most likely for fantasy. LaFleur, I think, is one of those where probably good, which is kind of how you look at Sean Payton's offensive coordinators in terms of the NFL. They've had some success. One of them was pretty awful.

and one of them was maybe mediocre before this isn't his first time doing this. He was the offensive coordinator for the Rams. I mean, it's his first time being a head coach. Yeah, yeah. But it's not as, but like, we saw him as an offensive coordinator with the Jets also. That was obviously bad personnel. He might have

bad personnel in Arizona this year. So, less excited about Kubiak than I am about Kubiak, but cautiously optimistic about Arizona. You said one of the Rams coordinators did poorly? Is that what you said?

Previous. Who is that? Waldron? I would say so. I don't know if he was an offensive coordinator. I was looking that up. I only saw him as a passing game coordinator. I don't know if that matters.

So pro football reference says he was the offensive coordinator for Seattle for three years and then for Chicago for one year. Oh, okay, yeah. No, I'm sorry. I thought I don't know if he was an offensive coordinator for the Rams. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. Because the previous three offensive coordinators for the Rams, I think, are Matt LaFleur, Kevin O'Connell, and Liam Cohen. So that's, but there's also Shane Waldron, who was a passing game coordinator who got hired as an offensive coordinator elsewhere.

But Matt LaFleur, Kevin O'Connell, and Liam Cohen have all been offensive coordinators for Sean McVeigh. And now you have Mike LaFleur who just spent the last three seasons. So that's a very impressive group there. That's better work for McVeigh. Very impressive. I mean, obviously, Cohen for both winning and fantasy. Matt LaFleur, at least for winning. And Kevin O'Connell, well, mostly really good.

Yeah, yeah, I'd say so. I think he's been pretty good. And hoping the Raiders can solve that offensive line, because it's obviously a big issue. Colton Miller was hurt for much of the year, and he played four games. So they're going to hopefully get him back for a healthy season. They're not going to use.

the number one pick on an offensive lineman. We know that. We don't know who LaFleur is bringing with him to Arizona to be the offensive coordinator, right? I haven't seen that, no. Because somebody made a good, Andy made a good point in the chat that Rams' offensive coordinators don't really call plays. Sean McVeigh does that.

And so he may bring in somebody that just calls his own offense. Yeah, maybe. But he does have play calling experience. You mentioned the two years with the Jets for Mike LaFleur. They were 27th in points per game and 28th in points per game. and 28th in points per game, but they just didn't have good personnel, as you said. They did have Breeze Hall,

and, you know, he had that good year in seven games. And they were second and fourth in pass rate for whatever that's worth in the two seasons. So he was pass-heavy. All right. We've got Drew Petzing going to call plays for the Lions. We didn't know if it be him or Dan Campbell. It's going to be him at least to start.

We've got Cleveland hiring an offensive coordinator. Yeah, we talked about Todd Monkin going to Cleveland on Friday show. But his coordinator will be Travis Switzer, who was the run game coordinator for Baltimore under Todd Monkin. Josh Grisard is going to be Tampa is going to be Philadelphia's new passing game coordinator. They already hired Sean Mannion as their offensive coordinator. What was it that happened on Friday? Jamie, was it Joe Brady that happened on Friday right after our show? Joe Brady that happened on Friday?

No, we talked about it. What the heck? No, that happened on Friday because it happened live on FFT Dynasty and I had Jeff Bell from football guys who is a Bill's fan. Okay. Or was that Tuesday?

I think that was Tuesday. So what happened? Something happened on Friday. Did Munkin happen Friday? No, we talked about it. Friday we had, we were with Dan. No, Monkin was already happened because we were given a hard time.

Was it, was it Declan Doyle maybe? Going to Baltimore as the new offensive coordinator? Maybe. No, whatever it was. Okay, well, not much else. Oh, no, it was the Minnesota GM was fired. I think it was that. That did happen, you're right.

But I felt like it was something fantasy relevant that we just missed, but maybe not. Anyway, Jamie and I are going to run through all this stuff on FFT Express. I want to spend today on the greatest hits and biggest misses of 2025. And now that Jamie's on, I will say this, and I feel bad saying it.

Maybe I shouldn't say it. Oh, say it, yeah. I haven't been this unexcited for a Super Bowl in a very long time. I just don't even care. I don't know if I'm going to care on Sunday. I hope I do.

But I don't just like I'm not feeling not feeling the Super Bowl. I don't think that's an unpopular sentiment. I mean, you have two surprise teams, even though the Super Bowl poster told you that it was going to happen. But you have the two surprise teams that are here. And, you know,

it's, It's generally driven by star players, right? You know, this game is generally driven by star players. And you have a lot of exciting players, but they're not stars yet. You know, Drake May hasn't ascended to the Patrick Mahomes level yet. Obviously, Sam Donald is what he is. JSN is a great receiver on the rise, but he hasn't established himself and doesn't necessarily have the national claim from a popularity standpoint.

You know, I think that people look at and say, oh, wow, it's, you know, can't wait to see him play. the running backs are, you know, kind of just good players. There's no real superstar defensive player, at least I'm, unless I'm forgetting somebody. So it's just not, and the coaches, you know, Vrable obviously has been around a long time, and he has some acclaim, but it's not an 80-Reed. You know, it's not somebody that you've seen, you know, in that role for several years. So I get it. You know, it should be, I hope it's a good game.

You know, I think a lot of people look at the Patriots to say how they got here, you know, and the teams that they face, the coaches that they face, the quarterbacks that they face, you know, they've had a very easy path to take nothing away from them. They got here.

And then Seattle just kind of is, you know, I think just a very solid team, you know, it's just kind of interesting. Yeah, good question here from Soda Pop. Who on the panel

is most likely to double dip at a Super Bowl party? Quite obviously not me. It definitely he's... Including everybody who's on our show. Yeah, regularly? Sure. I mean, it doesn't matter.

Oh, Dan, for sure. No, it's Heath for sure. Dan would never do that. Heath has already admitted that he does. Dan is Jason Alexander, so yes, he would. He learned from Georgia's mistake. I think Heath has already admitted that he doesn't care and that he would do it. I think that's a great memory.

And I would tell everyone who was at the party that I do not care if you double dip. But what if other people care? Would you still double dip or would you honor that? If someone said, please don't double dip, then. I would not. I'd probably just get my own bowl and put some of the dip in the bowl and then dip as often as I like. That's exactly how you do it.

But just so you know, people don't want you to double dip, even if they don't explicitly tell you that. They don't want this. I believe that maybe in certain circles, but if you come to my Super Bowl party, you're a double dipper. Is that not one of the greatest television bits of all times? Yeah. It's incredible.

You dip, you dip the chip? You took a bite? The guy who played the actor opposite, George, is amazing in that role. Has he been in anything else? I don't know. It doesn't matter. He's great. Heath, what's coming up on FFT Dynasty?

We've got lots of great stuff. Jack Spalcone, aka Scott Bollinger, will be on tomorrow to talk about his new venture. We've got a one-cubey startup mock coming, but really, most importantly, as soon as the Super Bowl gets over, we start looking for the 2026 version of Harold Vann. Jamie, I'm sorry, I was watching the double-dip clip during that. I don't recognize this guy from anything. Okay. Thank you, Heath.

Let's get to our greatest hits and biggest misses of 2025. All right, so you guys reviewed your sleepers, your breakouts, your busts. And I have mostly just the sleepers and breakouts that hit. And I narrowed it down because they, There were a lot. Good, good season for you guys. You had a lot of hits based on those columns. But I narrowed it down to about five or six for each of you. So, Jamie, you have two quarterbacks on your greatest hits list.

You had Trevor Lawrence and Drake May as sleepers. They both finished top six per game. Drake May. I think May as a breakup. May is a breakup. Okay. Lawrence was QB6 per game. May, QB3 per game.

So nice work. I went back and, you know, May I was relatively excited about last offseason from the beginning, you know, just with the addition of Josh McDaniels, mostly, but Stefan Diggs and just, you know, taking a step forward. I like the way he ran as a rookie. I remember, you know, talking about that quite a bit. And for Trevor Lawrence, it was really just Liam Cohen, you know, and the addition of, you know, Travis Hunter to a full year of Brian Thomas, which really didn't materialize.

But really, it was a lot about Liam Cohen and, you know, getting a different play caller. And I liked what he did with Baker Mayfield as a rusher also, and that really materialized for Trevor Lawrence with the rushing touchdowns. So for both of those guys, you know, it was drafting May to be a starter, drafting Lawrence to be a high-end backup with the chance of him, you know, maybe becoming a starter.

And I think for both of those, they worked out. Okay, I'm going to look at Fantasy Pros ADP. Drake May was QB 16. Trevor Lawrence was QB 20. And Heath, I know one of your misses was Drake May. Yep. I think you made the, I remember the point was like,

you just didn't really like his weapons that much. I think it's pretty incredible this season he had with these weapons. Well, I think we saw Booty step up and be better than he has been. We saw DeMario Douglas at times do well, Stefan Diggs, when he was on the field. And it's probably just the case that May took the next step and elevated those guys. Yeah. And it's funny because doesn't, don't you, I've been saying, you know, he throws the deep ball. He's had all these deep ball touchdowns.

Don't you feel like his reputation, Drake May right now, is that he is, arguably the best or this season he was the best deep ball thrower in the NFL or up there? Yes, I think, listen, those types of stats when you're talking about deep ball passing over 16 or 17 games can be pretty wonky. So I think he might have to do it for a second year before he establishes himself as that. But he certainly was in 2025. Whether he can maintain that moving forward will be another question. The first half of the season, he looked like not just the greatest deep passer in the NFL right now, but maybe the best deep passer ever.

Like his accuracy and success rate on those throws was incredible. Yeah, what I was going to say was that it didn't even really, he didn't, Drake May didn't really even have that much of a standout season statistically. If you look at throws of 20 or more air yards, 30 or more air yards, it's not like he blew away the competition. So it wasn't, I guess, seems less fluky maybe. He didn't have a huge outlier season. He just made some incredible throws. All right, so Lawrence and Drake May were hits for Jamie Lawrence as a sleeper may as a breakout.

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so yet you had wandale robinson as a sleeper jami i mean the the thought was as a complimentary option to malig neighbors not this you know this this this just worked out much better than than anybody who drafted Wanda Robinson could have hoped, and obviously to suggest drafting him as a sleeper, he's always been good. He just, this year was great, you know,

and I'm very curious to see where he ends up next year. You know, if he stays with the Giants, then I think it's a good opportunity for him to, again, be that complimentary guy to Malik neighbors. You know, we'll see what else they do to add to this receiving core.

I know you're very high on them drafting somebody, which makes a ton of sense. And as we discussed on Friday, you know, the Isaiah likely pairing with John Harbaugh, makes a lot of sense as well because while, you know, the tight-in position there is, is okay. I think it could be better and certainly likely is much better athlete than what they have. So, yeah, this is just one of those, like anytime you have an injury and a guy steps up,

I had a lot of these misses at the running back position from the sleeper perspective, you know, on, hey, draft these back us because if the guy in front of them gets hurt, they're going to be great. And they just really didn't work out to that level. But Wondale from the receiver spot did it. And I have a theory, and I'm not sure if you agree with it or not, Adam. I don't really think you can have a miss on a sleeper column. If you're talking about guys that are being drafted outside of the top 100,

like if they're not good, probably seven of the guys drafted around them weren't good either. So I agree with that 100%. When I went through and looked at it, I'm like, I'm not going to say any misses of the sleepers. Right. I gave him more. The ones I emailed to him were misses of breakouts and bus. I yeah I mean if you're just taking flyers on these guys that are late they can't really be bad for you I'm not gonna let it I'm not gonna now I think that's letting you off the hook I think that's taking all the pressure

so what do you think the success rate should be on a sleeper well I just real quick like we're talking about most most these players you're cutting anyway I mean or they're the potential to be cut like so I'll give example based on ADP I was saying Braylon Allen was going to be a breakout. You got hurt. Forget about how it worked out. There's no way he was being drafted by anybody else other than me as high as he was going because the ADP suggests that.

Yeah. So like that's a miss. That was a miss. Yeah. Yes. But based on his average draft position, not so much. Okay, fine. So if, so Dave, Dave had Keon Coleman, right?

Keon Coleman was going as wide receiver. 48. I mean, I think Dave would tell you that was a miss, but you're saying he was drafted so late. I think you're picking on the one guy that he overhyped so much, though. I know, but also like, Quinn John Judkins was drafted in that range. Caleb Williams was drafted in that range. Josh Downs, okay, Drake May was in that range. Jaden Reed, Dalton Kincaid.

They're not all misses there. I don't know. I can't really get on board with the, there's no such thing as a wrong sleeper call. Well, I mean, I just, again, I'll go back. to my list. If I told people to draft Ray Davis late, am I wrong on that because he didn't materialize into something or Ollie Gordon? Like, well, I think that personally I feel like handcuffs have a different category than somebody in the chat was trying to get us argue about what a breakout is. Not somebody, Johnny. Johnny, and we didn't fall for it and somehow we fell into this

Shrew. Oh, yeah, if Thomas wants me to bring up Christian Kirk, right? That was a terrible call on my part. It didn't help that he got hurt, I think, in the preseason, right? But, no, Christian Kirk was obviously a bad call. Yeah, no, I accept that. That was a bad sleeper call for sure. Can you be wrong on a sleeper?

I think handcuffs are different than sleepers. But you should point out every preseason, like which handcuffs actually have the potential to be great if the starter gets hurt because Ray Davis would have been a good example of that. Well, I mean, the two that I am specifically were A-chan had the calf injury, so Ollie Gordon was somebody I was looking to draft. And Ray Davis, because of the James Cook Holdout,

you know, I feel about guys that have contract situations, you know, so that was too specifically that I was targeting with late-round picks because of their situation, not necessarily, oh, if the guy gets hurt. You know, it wasn't that. I wasn't as, you know, hey, go get Will Shipley, because Sequin Barclan may get hurt.

Yeah, no, I think you were right to put those guys in the column. I think it made a lot of sense at the time. Maybe you were wrong about Ali Gordon because Jalen Wright ended up being the handcuff, I guess. I don't know if that was the case in week one, but midway through the season when there was that one time where A. N. got hurt against the Jets. But no, I'm not saying you were wrong on those. I was definitely wrong on Christian Kirk. I can't be like, whatever's a late round pick.

All right. George Pickens was in your breakout column, and he was the number six wide receiver per game. So that was a big win for Jamie. I mean, it was opportunity, you know, just going to the Cowboys, getting with a quarterback that was going to give him chances to make plays, being the number two guy with a lot of less pressure on him.

We know the history of Dak Prescott with the Cowboys, where they were going to throw a lot. You know, at least that was prior to Schottenheimer, but it's kind of stayed the same. I just think that this was kind of a layup that if he hit, he was going to hit to a very good level, if not a great level, and he hit to a great level. So Pickens was somebody I was very high on and had him in several leagues.

Man, I think one of my biggest misses was this range of wide receiver and just thinking, man, this is a great range of wide receiver. And it was like rounds five, six, seven, basically, in a 12-team league. So let's say pick 50 or later. and I'm looking at Fantasy Pro's ADP, Xavier Worthy, bust, Devante Smith, I'd say he was a bust. Teterola McMillan,

probably, he was wide receiver 25. He's probably finished somewhere around there, I'm guessing. Jameson Williams, interesting year for him, Zay Flowers, Calvin Ridley, George Pickens, Travis Hunter, Rishie Rice, Jalen Waddle, Jerry Judy, Romo Dunzee.

It wasn't nearly as good, Heath, as I thought it was. Well, I mean, I guess it depends on which segment of the season you're talking about. I think Rashi Rice was what wide receiver four after he came back? Yeah, right, Rice was a game. James and Williams once Dan Campbell took over play calling was awesome. And like, Pickens was the big winner from that group.

Yeah, big, big time. I had zero of George Pickens. Okay, Jalen Warren, Jamie. Yeah, this is a great call by you. Jalen Warren ended up being top 20 running back, 19th per game in half and full PPR. 18th per game and non-PPR. I mean, obviously a very up and down season for the Steelers running back,

starting with the NFL draft, because Caleb Johnson was the guy that we were hoping to see as the featured guy there, and that never materialized once we saw how the preseason was sort of shaking out. And Warren, for me, was always the one that I was the most interested in, simply because I thought, okay, if he gets a chance because of what we've seen when he was sharing previously with Najee Harris, that there was an opportunity for him to be the lead guy. there were times during the season, again, where he wasn't the best running back for Pittsburgh.

It was Kenneth Gainwell. So I think just looking at it from the standpoint of Jayland War was great value. He ended up playing very well. For most of the season, he was a solid number two running back slash flex. There really weren't a lot of games when he was healthy that he killed your fantasy team. And there were some games where he was, you know, one of the better players on your team. So it was a good, it was great value. You know, I think he just ended up performing very well.

All right, so to recap some of Jamie's greatest hits, Trevor Lawrence as a sleeper, Drake May as a breakout, Wondale as a sleeper, Pickens, and Jalen Warren were the other two that we talked about. Now, let's go over to Heath, and the five I chose, or I guess the sixth I chose for Heath, where five sleepers or breakouts and one bust call. The bus call was Camara, but you were very high in Devon A-chan, who ended up going in the second round after his preseason injury. But even before that injury, you were super high on him. He was, believe it or not, only RB5 per game, because five running backs this year averaged 20 or more PPR fantasy points.

The first time that's happened since 2020. But Achan, yeah, you looked at the splits, I think, with Tua and without Tua, and you just said, why are we not totally buying in, right? Well, and I think, like Thomas sent this one to me last night, so I figured I'd put it on the list. I was pretty conflicted about whether this was a hit or not, because there were other running backs who were better that were drafted in a similar range.

But he did take the leap to 20 fantasy points per game. Like I said, I thought that he would. And he did again stay healthy for the second season in a row. And he continues to lead the NFL in yards per rush attempt. Showed just how awesome he is. And he's one of the elite running backs and probably a guy who gets drafted as a top three or four running back next year again. This was, and I know why you backed off where you were on him, the calf injury, but like, you were so high on him.

Yeah. Oh, I was too, I was probably too high on him. Well, no, I don't think you were. I don't think you were. No. You know, and I don't blame you for backing off of it when he got hurt. But like, man, if you had stayed on that course the entire time, like, that was awesome. You know, just how bullish you were early on him, you know, comparatively to the field.

The nice thing about backing off of him was it kept me from drafting Brock Bowers a couple of times. So I took A-Chane and round. And that's what often happens. Like you back off of a guy because you had him third overall, and now you've got him second in the second round, and still higher than everybody else, just not as high as it was. And he'll have a new offensive coordinator.

The head coach is a defensive guy, Jeff Hathley. Offensive coordinator is Bobby Sloick, who was their passing game coordinator. He's been promoted to their offensive coordinator, and he was the Texans offensive coordinator for a couple of seasons. CJ Stroud's first two seasons in the leagues. That's Devon A-chan. Jamie, if I was going to ask you, who's the one player that you associated Heath with during the preseason?

Oh, you could be really mean or really nicer. Yeah, there were two, I'd say. One great call and one bust that wasn't really Heath's fault. No, it kind of was. Oh, I was not thinking of the one you were. I didn't put him on the loss because he got hurt. Bowers? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, who's the other one, Jamie? DeAndre Swift. Yeah, Swift. Swift, so he finishes a top 15 running back per game in all three formats, non-half in full PPR. Congratulations, Heath Cummings. Nice call.

Well, and I think, like, I kind of had two sides of that argument. One was there's nobody else, and that by mid-season turned out to be false because they liked Monongai a lot. The other was that DeAndre Swift's going to be much more efficient with Ben Johnson there, and that turned out to be true. He averaged 4.9 yards per carry, the best yards per carry that he'd had since he was with Ben Johnson in 2022. So I think Swift showed that he's still a very,

good running back and it turned out working out okay when he was splitting with Monongai because they were just both good some of the time. Yeah, it's hard to evaluate because this is the weeks 10 through 18. Okay, so basically what happened was week one, Kaan Mangai didn't get a carry and DeAndre Swift had 17. And then after that there was a split, but not a huge, it was like two thirds of the carriers were going to Swift. Swift missed week nine and Monongai had 26 carries for a hundred,

76 yards and three catches for 22 yards at the Bengals, right? Amazing matchup. He took advantage of it. Then weeks 10 through 18, DeAndre Swift was on pace for 232 carries. And Menangai was on pace for 191 carries. That's a ton of carries between the two of them. They basically split the goal line work. Swift scored five touchdowns.

Three of them were from the six-yard liner closer. Menangai scored four touchdowns. Three of them were from the four-yard. yard liner closer. So it was a fairly even split with an edge to Swift. Neither of them caught a lot of passes. Swift was on pace for 30 catches, Monongai for 17 in that stretch. So he's a tough player to evaluate. Heath, give me a round for Swift in 2026. Probably round four. Jamie? I think that's fair. You know, we have to see what happens with the offseason. Do they consider moving on from him? I don't know the contract situation, but, you know, do they want to go Monongai and somebody else? But I

think you look at what he did in Ben Johnson and really what Ben Johnson's offense look like. You know, we were all trying to figure out, oh, who's going to be the number one receiver, who's going to, you know, they were just a really good run team. And, you know, if this offensive line stays intact and they continue to maybe bolster it even more, yeah, I think you got to be excited about DeAndre. So it probably end up being a good value because there are going to be people that are going to be pushing Kyle Monagai is the one you want to draft, you know, year two, getting more of an opportunity, and then they're going to be people pushing Swift. And maybe Swift can't do this again.

he's going to be one of the more fascinating players to dissect. But really, I think if it's status quo, round four, feels pretty good. Travis Eton and Remandre Stevenson, Heath, were also good calls by you. Travis Eton was RB 14 per game in PPR and Stevenson, RB 22 per game. I think one of these ETS, I was pretty much had the same opinion from the time Basial Tutin was drafted until we were drafting fantasy football teams, that the idea that Tutin was just going to take the job from ETN was probably a little too aggressive, and ETN was still a very good player, and that turned out to be right.

Stevenson, I really wanted no part of all summer until we got to August, and Trevionn Henderson was a third-round pick, and Rwandre Stevenson was going around pick 100, and so he ended up on the August sleepers list, and turned out that Stevenson was the best running back in New England this year. And then especially so in the playoffs. I had a lot more belief in ETN's offense and talent than I did Stevenson. So Stevenson kind of proved me wrong, but was a very good sleeper pick and a guy that turned

into a starting running back for you that was drafted well after most of the starting running backs. So you were high on Henderson too, but you still said that there's that. Well, I was, and I put Henderson on my losers because he was my number two running back in the dynasty drafts. and somebody I thought was just easily going to take the job eventually away from Andre Stevenson. But what happened is what happens a lot of times with the rookies. By the time we got to August, Henderson's ADP was up in round three.

And I don't think I drafted him on one redraft team. Yeah, how about that? Someone's saying that Travis E.T.N. is a trap next year. We don't even know where he's going to be next year. We're going to have to know a little bit more about a situation before we call him that. But yeah, I think the, the, the best call you, you had with ETN or the best point you had with ETN, it wasn't just Tutin. It was Tank Bigsby. Yeah.

Right. Right. They were, there was a lot of, okay, who's going to be the best running back in Jacksonville? And you stayed the course, you know, with, with ETN the entire time where I think a lot. I mean, I know I was kind of like, okay, could be Tutton, could be Bigsby. When they traded Bigsby, it was kind of easy to just say, okay, take the best one at cost. Right. But the value for ETAM was amazing, you know, the entire time.

So that was a great call by you. There was a point, and I don't remember when it was in the summer, but there was a point where Travis, they were all kind of being drafted in the same place, and ETN was third. Like it was kind of just, because I think that was during the period of time where we had the impression that Liam Cohen didn't like Travis ETN

or they were getting ready to move them or something. So, yeah, that ended up being a good value. You had Alvin Camara as a bust And you kept harping on the Kellen Moore Not throwing to his running backs And lo and behold, Camara Actually started the season

With four to six Five or six targets And four of his first six games, I believe But still, for the year On pace for only 51 catches On pace for 53 catches If you remove week 12 He played 14% of the snaps

And left with the season ending injury But also he averaged 3.6 yards per carry I mean he was terrible He was RB3. 37 per game, Alvin Camara, in full PPR, and 41 and half PPR, 45 per game and non-PPR. Just one of the biggest busts, really, I think. Yeah, and I think if you look at the, no matter how it happened, and he had two catches in that final game that he left,

so that didn't affect his catches per game too much. It's again, about 60% of what his career average had been in catches per game is what Camara gave us. He was three catches per game, the lowest mark of his career. And I think the other concern that I had, and this offense ended up in the second half being better than I thought it was going to be. But I was worried that in an offense this bad, when he'd been inefficient in the past, he'd made up for it with touchdowns. He ended up scoring one touchdown.

I wouldn't have guessed that low of a number. But, yeah, he was a bust. He was. If he had scored like a normal amount of touchdowns, maybe he could have been top 30 running back, 25, something like that in full PPR. not good enough. And then you guys both had Tucker Kraft on Sleeper or Breakout list. Breakout for me.

Yeah, and I think Kraft, like one of the reasons I wanted to put him on somebody's list is just to highlight that there were so many injuries of guys that were on my sleeper, or breakout or bust list this year, good and bad for, like, for my call. but it's just kind of the season that it was. And Tucker Kraft was a great call as long as he stayed healthy. And then in terms of win rate for fantasy football teams, probably didn't turn into a very good call at all. Yeah, but he was tight end two per game.

So I think you guys deserve credit for that. And Tours ACL in week nine, hopefully a full recovery for him. But I come back to it. Let me just do the math real quick. 44 divided by 8 times 17. He's on pace for 94 targets. So I, that's a little scary to me.

I mean, no one gets a lot of targets in this Green Bay offense, right? And he's coming off a torn ACL. I think we could have some really fun debates this summer about who is going to be the best tight end in that division. Between Loveland and Leporten and out with petzing and Kraft coming off the injury, like one of those guys could be one of the top three tight ends. Yeah, you're right.

It's a good division. just in general. Okay, let's take a break, and we'll come back and look at the biggest misses from Jamie and Heath after this. Boarding for Flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. Ugh, what? Sounds like Ojo time. Play Ojo? Great idea.

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He took a little bit of a step back in terms of his production, even when he was healthy. Average 6.7 yards per pass attempt. That's a big drop off from his rookie number. He had a 4.3% touchdown rate. That's a big drop off from his rookie past touchdowns. And I think some of it was part of the time he was healthy. Terry McLoran wasn't Terry McCloran. And I probably, that's when I hesitated,

I wasn't sure if when we got far enough into the McCloran holdout that I had dropped him down to two or three. But regardless, even if you had him at QB two or three, he was a miss this year. You have Ashton Genty on this list as well. And Genty was about our. R. B-15 or so. What's amazing is that Genti

played 17 games and he only had 266 carries. This team, the Raiders, they were last in the NFL in scoring and only one team averaged fewer running back carries per game than the Raiders. Can you name that team? Fewer running back carries per game

than the Raiders. I'm trying to think of somebody else that was super low on total play volume because I think they were dead last in that regard. I don't think it's going to be this one. They led the NFL in past attempts. Okay, so it wasn't the Chiefs? No.

Okay, who was it? Cardinals, fewest running back carries per game. Well, they had seven running backs get hurt, so that kind of makes sense. No, and I don't think, I'm not ready to admit yet that I was wrong about Ashton Genty's talent. I just underestimated how bad the offensive line could be, and I overestimated what Chip Kelly could do. Ian Hartz put out a really good chart today that showed tackles avoided per carry, yards after contact per rush, and Genti still stands out in terms of avoiding tackles. The problem for him most of the year was that he would make one or two guys miss,

and there were one or two guys there waiting for him. Like the blocking was just so atrociously bad that it wasn't good enough to break a tackle or two on a run. You had to break four. Who are you guys more confident in bouncing back in 2026? Jaden Daniels or Ashty? As of right now, I'd say, confident? Yeah. Jenty.

I would say Jenty. Let's see where Jenty went in this draft. He went with the third pick of round two in our half PBR January draft. And, you know, one of my biggest misses was Nico Collins. I just don't really understand what happened to Nico Collins. I think it was just C.J. Stroud wasn't good. But there was obviously a lot of risk there. We knew they were going to have a bad offensive line.

We knew Stroud was coming off kind of a bad year. So I'm just wondering, are we making that mistake with anybody in the first round? This draft, yeah, I don't think so. Looking at the draft that we just did, Bejohn, might be on the worst offense of anyone in the first round, believe it or not. Puka, Gibbs, Chase, McCaffrey, J.S.N. Devon, A. H. Lamb, Jonathan Taylor, St. Brown, James Cook, Malik Neighbors, who shouldn't be a first-round

people, whatever. Jamie, like, are we falling? Because I think about Gentie, and I think about Nico, and these guys were first-round busts, and their offenses just weren't good enough. Their quarterbacks weren't good enough. Are we making a mistake here with Bijan as number one, with Jonathan Taylor,

with JSN, losing his offensive coordinator, and having Sam Darnel? You know what I'm saying? I mean, you could probably nitpick all these guys, clearly. You know McCaffrey with all the work and the history of what that means. C.D. Lambs coming off a terrible season, you know, with what happens of George Pickin stays again.

Does St. Brown continue to produce this level in a maybe more tight end friendly offense that could take some targets away from him if Jameson is still going to be that type of guy as well? So, I mean, you go down the list. I don't know. I mean, this isn't going to be what the first round looks like. So, you know, we're probably looking at, I'll say confidently, eight guys that will be there.

And there's probably four guys that will, you know, Trey McBride may push himself into the first round. We're just talking ADP. There'll probably be another running back or two. Again, it wouldn't shock me like if Ken Walker has a big Super Bowl and then stays in Seattle or goes someplace else, Breeze Hall goes to someplace that's, you know, our dream situation. You know, we're going to be excited about that type of deal.

So I think just with the 12 names that you mentioned, yeah, neighbors could be a little troubling. I don't know, Lamb is one that makes me a little nervous just if Pickens is there again. So, I don't know, we'll see. Okay. In terms of offensive, though, like, just to your question,

you know, Nico was still very good. He just wasn't, like, you were expecting top five good. Yeah, I was expecting a lot better. What did he average? Nico averaged 15.1 points per game. I thought that'd be more like 20. well and that's just also like i think you have to put it in the context of the position in 2025 it was an awful year for wide receivers and that that may be like a sign of things to come

with the new kickoff rule there aren't as many offensive plays on drives which means there aren't as many receptions which means wide receivers aren't going to score as many pbr points Maybe. Here are the top six. I'll just read the offenses for the top 10 wide receivers per game. Rams, Seahawks. We never thought Seattle would be this good of an offense. So this is kind of one of the issues with the exercises.

It's not that easy to predict the best and worse offenses. But Rams, Seahawks, Bengals, Lions, Chiefs, that's for She Rice. Cowboys, Pickens, Saints, Chris Olabe, Falcons, Rams, Cowboys again. So you have two, in the top 10, you have two representatives from the Rams, two from the Cowboys. You've got Seattle, Cincinnati, Detroit, Kansas City, New Orleans, Atlanta. All right, take with that what you will. Let me get Heath. You've got Trayvion Henderson in here.

I don't think we need to talk about him. But Jerry Judy, oh, man. What an interesting player. I was thinking about this when I sent the list in, and it was an enormous miss by me. And Judy was just, I've talked too much about how bad he was. But like the implications of his drops early in the season change the landscape for multiple guys on multiple teams. Because I think if he just catches the cat balls that 75% of wide receivers

catch in the first four games of the season, the Browns are 500 and probably not benching Flacco. And the Bengals probably aren't getting Flacco. and everything just looks different. But the biggest thing was, he had the target volume I expected early in the season. And many of the targets were right where a normal wide receiver would want them. And he just dropped them all.

Jamie, does Jerry Judy deserve to be drafted? He was the first pick of round 13 in our January mock. Yeah. I mean, if this receiving course still looks the way that it does, I think he's worth a late round pick just to see. you know, what this new offense looks like with Todd Monkin, who the quarterback is going to be, what the rest of the receiving core, you know, appears to be. It's just funny that, you know, the number one receiver, technically, with two Pro Bowl quarterbacks.

Browns up two Pro Bowl quarterbacks, you know, couldn't end up, you know, doing anything. Was the Pro Bowl yesterday? I was at a baseball field from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. yesterday. And apparently it's tomorrow. In the South Florida Tundra. Yeah. Oh, man. The Pro Bowl.

Sure. Yes, Joe Flacco is now going to be participating in the Pro Bowl. His first Pro Bowl nod. No kidding. Pretty sure, yeah, Joe Flacco. It's really amazing. And I won't talk about another sport for very long. But we have like serious arguments going on about whether LeBron should be an All-Star this year.

in the NBA. How is the, like the most clipper thing ever is the clippers are hosting the All-Star game without an All-Star. And Kauai Leonard is having a good season. I didn't know that.

I don't, I don't know. Do you think LeBron should be an all-star? I feel like, there's my hot take on LeBron, who I rarely watch. He needs to stop shooting so many three-pointers. He's just not good enough at it.

And he does it, like, early in the shot clock. He's been doing this, I think, for a few years now. He's just not a good enough three points or just stop doing that. So my take on it, and I think he's had some very good three point percentage shooting years recently, but my take on it is, no, he doesn't deserve to be an All-Star based on his 2025, 2025, 26 stats. But we've been doing this for a long time in all sports. Guys like him get to play in the All-Star game.

Michael Jordan was an All-Starry, both of his years were the Wizards, a starter. That's different, though. they were being voted in. I don't think, I don't think, like, first of all, you were right, Heath, the last two years, the Brahma's great from three this year, 33% this year, though. I don't believe in, like, the Lifetime Achievement Award. I think the people who deserve to be in the All-Star Games are the ones who play the best, and they should get it.

Yeah, like, it's not fair to the, maybe the guy that should be in for the first time. Well, why's having a better year, for example. Yeah, like, it's not fair to people, he's been in an All-Star before, but just, if you deserve it, then you get it. You don't get it just because you've been around forever. I don't care about that. Well, I think you can deserve it without having great numbers this year as well, I'm saying. It's a celebration of this sport.

LeBron's having a good season. Right. He's 22, 6 and 6. Like, that's a good season, especially for a 41-year-old. So who would be the comparisons? I was going to say, we're going to put Aaron Rogers in the Pro Bowl, but he hasn't had as good of a year as LeBron. You can't compare the Pro Bowl because it's a complete.

Strader Sanders and Joe Flacco just paid Pro Bowl. I know, but if in a world where the. where like people cared about the Pro Bowl. Kelsey. Kelsey might be the... Oh, yeah, that's a good one. Right, he doesn't really deserve to be in. Yeah, no, whatever.

You know what? Look, I believe in a meritocracy. Sorry. And Brock Bowers was the last guy on your list. He ended up being the number four tight end per game. He averaged 14.2 PPR fantasy points per game, but actually scored more than 15.3 in only two of 12 games. Yeah, that massive game.

What was that against Denver? Jaguars. Jaguars, yeah. And whatever it was. First game back from his three-game absence. Right. And Bowers on your bus list. Well, no, on your misses list.

Yeah. And I put a question mark next to this one, because from my perspective, this is entirely injury-related. But, again, it's like Genty. The Raiders were so bad that he had several bad games. I think if you look at the games, that he played in, that he wasn't trying to play through the PCL.

And maybe he was all year because they ended up shutting him down. I think that was just tanking. But it worked. It worked. And I wouldn't, I don't have any problem with the teams doing it. But if you look at the games that he played where he said he was healthy, he averaged over 16 fantasy points per game on one on the worst offense in the NFL. So that's, that's pretty good.

I don't know what 16 fantasy points per game is. worth in terms of a draft pick this year. Definitely should have had McBride ahead of him. But if Brock Bowers is healthy last year and Kyler Murray starts 17 games, I kind of think Brock Bowers probably would have out scored Tray McBride. I really want to see how this would have played out because Bowers had five catches for 103 yards on eight targets in three quarters against the Patriots in week one and just played hurt after that and struggled.

I would have loved to see how this played out. You just never know. certainly could have had a great year. All right, Jamie, your misses list. Your biggest misses. Justin Fields is so interesting because he actually scored more than 29 points in three games. Two more games with more than 21 points. He actually was pretty good.

But he had some terrible games. He had a terrible game against Denver. He had a terrible game against Carolina where he got hurt. He had a terrible game against Cleveland. He also had a terrible game against Buffalo where he, no, he got benched against Carolina, hurt against Buffalo. But you did have him as a miss. It was a breakout quarterback.

Two breakout quarterbacks I had in the final column were Drake May and Justin Fields. So the difference in those two guys was glaring, obviously. I think just in the case of Fields, it was he had to play the full season to fulfill that designation. And he clearly could not be the guy for the Jets. However, it shook out, you know, whether they just didn't want him to be the guy, he was good enough to be the guy, whatever, didn't help fantasy managers. So that's the bottom line. So yeah.

So when he was a starter, he had some very good moments. And then unfortunately just couldn't sustain that for the entirety of the year. Okay. We've got R.J. Harvey on here. Yeah, tough one because I was obsessed with drafting him, too. So RJ Harvey, one of your biggest misses. Yeah, and I gave you Henderson too. You know, he's kind of said it.

I was very high on both those guys. Same thing he said. I thought he was going to be the guy for the Patriots. Same thing with Harvey for the Broncos. And it didn't happen until week 12, actually, you know, J.K. Dobbins got hurt in week 10 with the foot injury. Week 10, week 11 weren't great for Harvey. I think that they're buying. Week 13, I'm not mistaken.

And then they come back from their buy, and he was great in the final stretch for fantasy managers in the playoffs. But clearly, you didn't help a lot of people in the first 10 weeks of the first 11 weeks of the season, you know, outside of a couple of games where he scored touchdown. So I'm very curious to see what happens this offseason for the Broncos. J.K. Dobbin said in the exit interviews with the media, he hopes to be a Bronco for life. He's a free agent. We'll see if they bring him back. But I'd be shocked if there's not somebody there to share with Harvey, more so than a Joliel McLaughlin type of player.

I think they're going to go and either draft another guy, sign somebody. I think that's just what Sean Payton wants is a two-headed backfield with Harvey, not necessarily the league guy, because he just didn't run the ball very well. And firing, I forget their office coordinator. Not a play call. but the one thing that he said was he felt like the run game wasn't great.

Payton said. Yeah. Okay. And you've got, this is a guy that we pretty much never talk about, is Xavier Worthy. What a disappointing year. He got hurt in week one almost immediately, missed two games, and he just wasn't good. I mean, he scored one touchdown all year, 532 yards and 14 games for Xavier Worthy. And, yeah, another guy that I shared your enthusiasm for.

It didn't work out. So, I mean, to me honestly, it felt like low-hanging fruit, you know, because Rashi Rice was going to be suspended. And then we didn't know with the knee injury when he would return. But you thought, okay, six weeks of the guy that we saw at the end of his rookie campaign, being the go-to guy for Patrick Mahomes, man, and that was so disappointing. And then Rice comes back, and obviously, Worthy was terrible down the stretch for the majority of the season. So it was just frustrating. It was really disappointing. and now I think Heath brought this up.

We may be in a situation next year where if they do add somebody else, and I think the name most likely is Tyree Kill, just in terms of a reunion, but I'm talking like big name guy. So if they add somebody else and Kelsey returns, like you can't trustworthy at all. Do you think Eric Bianami is going to make a difference for this team?

Yes. I think the fact that he came out and said in his, his meeting with the media, that he talked to Patrick and Travis, and how excited they were about having him back. It might be a sign. Okay. Hopefully. Yeah, there's some talent here with Xavier Worthy,

but it just did not work out this year. And Michael Pittman, you had on your bus list, right? I did. Okay. And you consider this a miss? Yeah. I mean, he was one of the best values of any player, certainly one of the better values than any wide receivers.

I just didn't trust Daniel Don't. You know, and the, I had Josh Downs as a sleeper, I believe. You know, so I was expecting Downs to take a step forward. Tyler Warren, the addition of him, you know, being a significant factor. And just not trusting Michael Pittman to ever get back to being the player that we saw two seasons ago when he was good with Gardner Minchew. You know, so that was just a complete miss on my part. And, you know, Pittman ends up as outside the top 30 at wide receiver. but in his last four.

I mean, I know what you're saying. Not exactly halves because there's only four games after Daniel Jones got hurt. And he scored, I think, less than 20 fantasy points combined in those four games. He did have a good game at Jacksonville in week 14. Daniel Jones got hurt in that game. But yeah, he was probably a top 20 guy. He was wide receiver 17 through week 14. There you go.

Yeah, terrible call at me. I was right there. He had an interesting season, though. I mean, it was a lot of touchdowns. It wasn't really, all right, let me, do you have his pace by any chance? So his numbers through week 14? 69 catches, 699 yards, seven touchdowns. Yeah, it's not like he was tearing the, tearing the world apart, setting the world on fire.

He is on pace for 90 catches, 914 yards, and nine touchdowns on 123 targets. That's a weird year. It was the whole thing I thought about the Colts was, I mean, everything was weird. Yeah. It was weird that Daniel Jones was awesome. Tyler Warren's season was weird. Like, the only thing that was not weird was Jonathan Taylor.

Alec Pierce's season was extremely weird. Jonathan Taylor's just awesome, obviously. Yeah. Last one was Matthew Golden. And Matthew Golden calls into question, Jamie, can we ever trust the Packers wide receiver? I'm going to be somewhat bullish on Christian Watson, you know, just because I think that he showed in the first year back from an ACL tear. Like, he can make still a lot of great, he can still make a lot of great plays and was very good with Jordan Love.

The concern would be is with Tucker Kraft back, you know, so we didn't really see those two guys playing very much together. Maybe not at all. Watson, I think, returned after Kraft was injured. So in the case of Golden, like that was just so disappointing because he had a good training camp. And I thought just based on no Watts in there, who knew what we're going to get from Jaden Reed? Romeo Dobbs, I always felt like he's just a guy and he had some better moments again than, you know, I expect them to. So I'm curious to see what this receiving court looks like, what the time table is for Kraft to return. And Golden, I think, still has a lot of upside.

I mean, you know, again, draft him in the first round, hoping for more. but just not getting it. So trust, I think as a starter, probably not. Trust as a starter in three receiver leagues, I think so. So for me, it'll be Watson. Okay, Matthew Golden. It is kind of funny that with Christian Watson's injury history, he is the guy. And I agree.

Like, when I've started on my two early 2026 projections, and he's my favorite Packers' wide receiver, but I don't really have any. hope that he's going to play 17 games. You're talking Watson? Yeah. Watson definitely, definitely, I'd love to know the last time, sorry, thinking out loud here, but I just want to see what his target per out run rate was because you just don't

see that a lot with with Packers guys. Target per out run rate for Christian Watson was 22.8%, which is pretty good. It was actually 24.4% as a rookie, but 22.8% this year and probably even higher is a out later in the year. Can he repeat that? Because he's a really good player, but you just don't see that a lot with Packers' receivers.

And yeah, I think the Tucker Kraft point is very valid. Good job, guys. A lot of hits. More hits than misses. Well done in 2025. Now, I have to do it again in 2026. I think you should just rename

all of your columns, sleepers. That way you can never be wrong. No, we have no problem admitting that we're wrong. Unlike you as a commissioner, you never admit you wrong. I think last time I sent a note

to the Bake Burger League, I think I said I was the worst commissioner ever. which I agree with, which I stand by. So I admit I'm pretty much always wrong there. Not with Jamie, though. Usually Jamie's wrong. Not the last time, but usually it's Jamie's fault. All right, everybody, thank you for watching and listening.

We'll be back on Wednesday. I think we're going to talk some draft prospects. We're going to take a look at the draft class for the first time. On Wednesday, then Thursday we'll have our Super Bowl preview. Thursday's podcast, rather, will be at 9 a.m. Wednesdays will be at 9 a.m. Wednesdays will be. at 10 a.m. Eastern time. See you later. Have a good one.