Fantasy Football Today - How to Win Your Auction, Plus Mailbag and Fantasy Cops! (08/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: August 23, 2025Bid on Draft-A-Thon items here! https://t...iltify.com/@cbs-sports/fft-draftathon-2025 The first half of our show is dedicated to auction advice. Jamey and Dan tell you everything you need to know about how to be prepared for your auction, who to nominate, how to steal a player you like, auction quarterback strategies (22:15) and more. Then we've got your Draft-A-Thon questions (35:00), emails (41:00) at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com, the Fantasy Cops (59:00), your Apple Podcast questions (1:04:00) and your YouTube comments (1:10:00) Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Today, we're going to give you auction tips to win your league.
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Here we go.
So no news and knows, because it's Thursday night, Jackson Dart injury and all that.
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you've already heard that.
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All right, yeah.
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then it'll be weird and repetitive.
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Okay, thank you.
All right.
Auction tips to win your league.
So, Dan, go ahead, fire away.
First of all, if you've never done an auction, they're the best.
They're super fun.
You get a fake budget, usually $100 or $200.
And then someone nominates a player and everyone can bid on that player.
This is not a snake draft where you're not able to draft certain guys because they're not available.
Everyone is available for you.
You have your budget.
So we love them.
They're super fun.
They do take a long time.
But if you've never tried one, we encourage you to do it.
We're going to tell you how to win right now.
Dan, give me your first tip.
The number one most important thing you can do in preparation for your
auction drafts is to map out the values of your draft.
Now, this is something that you're going to need to do in year two of your auction
drafts.
You can use default values for year one.
They'll be close.
They'll be decent.
But once you get into a second and third, fourth year of your auction drafts,
and it will happen like that.
The minute your league goes to auction, it won't ever go back.
It's a 10 times fun more format.
and maybe I'm underselling it more like a thousand times more fun.
These numbers are all font for Fugazi anyway.
But point being, use the values from last draft.
So your top running back values, go down the list, 50, 48, 49, then match that with
80p of this current draft and then go down the list of your rankings or your tiers,
whoever you are using.
Jamie has updated tiers on our site.
You can use those.
And match the dollar amounts to the ADP of those players going for this year.
After you do that for every single player at every single position, you will have an idea
of how to build your auction team out.
You have a $200 budget.
You now see the range.
Oh, tier four receivers.
I like a lot of tier four receivers.
I can get them for $11, $12.
And now you can pencil that into your wide receiver three and your flex one.
You start to map out your draft like that, understanding where the value is.
So you want Brian Thomas on this team.
You want Armandrass Saint-Brown as well.
You want to go strong one-two at receiver.
You're spending 35-38.
You know that based on last year's prices in the auction and the ADP of these players.
It may be a few dollars off here or there.
And when that price starts to go up, you bow out and you go to the next guy in that tier.
But you really need to have an idea, in my opinion, of how to map out your auction from a value
standpoint.
If you just go in willy-nilly with your budget and just say, I'm just going to draft players,
you'll end up a lot of times I see people do that end up either one with leftover money
at the end, which is the worst possible thing you can do in an auction, or two, they don't
buy any players early.
They're just waiting and waiting for value.
and they end up getting a ton of guys in tiers 4, 5, 6,
and their team has a ton of depth,
but it doesn't have the star power up top
to ever compete in the league in spite of the depth.
So you really need to understand the auction
and understand where the values ride at all these positions
and then map it out.
Let's say you know that I can get tier one or tier two running backs
in the 35 to 40 range.
You pencil it into your roster.
You've spent that 20% of your budget there,
and you can do that for each position.
I think just a couple things.
It's great advice.
You know, knowing the history of your league, it's the same with snake drafts, too.
You know, you're going to know when players, when fantasy managers are going to jump in.
But clearly, this is a great way to map out your auction.
If you're doing it for the first time, you can do mock auctions.
You know, there are, we have it on our site.
Almost every site, I think at this point, offers it.
So practice it, and you'll get somewhat of a same understanding from a player value standpoint.
You won't get the player value of your league because there's no history of doing it yet,
especially if it's a first time salary cap league or a, you know,
same group of people switching to it, but that's, you know, great advice that Dan is giving
you to sort of, you know, attach some sort of salary history or salary range to those guys
aside from what you're just reading on a rank list, because our rank lists have salary
cap values, but it may not be the same in your league. The one thing, though, that I do think
you have to decide beforehand on top of what you're saying is, do you want to get high-end
talent and spend a portion of your budget that way? And so,
Dan is going to reference our auction, our salary cap draft that we did yesterday, I think,
you know, from the most recent thing.
I think I'm the only one that was in that, right?
You both did not participate.
I did not.
Unfortunately, I was recording an episode.
So I did something different for me, which sort of falls in life with what I'm saying.
I decided, usually, you know, Adam, I kind of adhere to what Dan was saying.
Like, I like to have a lot of depth, but I don't typically take a lot of high-end talent.
So I really usually don't end up with a first-round pick.
I decided I wanted to see what it would be like
if I did it the other way
and I ended up with two first round picks
so I have both C.D. Lamb and Ashton Genti.
And I got those two players
purposely. I wanted one of my top
five receivers and one of my top seven running backs.
So I was going to be aggressive.
But I think part of it is
you also have to play the nomination process too.
Yes.
Because it doesn't go
first nomination, Jemar Chase.
Second nomination, Bejohn Robinson.
It doesn't go like what a rankless looks like.
So you almost want to let people spend money early,
and then this goes back to what Dan was talking about with the tiers.
What part of the tier do you want to jump in on that particular position group?
And you may not have to do it right away.
So I think, you know, just to harp on what Dan said,
like put a portion in your head of what money you want to spend on a certain tier.
it's so important.
So if you want to come away with, I want two running backs and then I want five receivers in the blob.
Right.
Then commit to it.
I want to get two high end receivers and three running backs from that rounds three through six range.
And I'm good with it.
Maybe there's a value that jumps out that changes things.
But like you have to sort of commit to things before the draft, not players.
Yes.
But almost where you want to spend your money.
It's so important to have an idea about that going into it and not just going blindly.
exactly i completely agree yep 10 team leagues you can spend more on the studs yeah deeper the league
you might want to try to be more balanced i did a 12 team auction last year which had shallow rosters
um actually i think we had two flexes so not that shallow but um i spent big on three players
and it didn't work out uh i don't think i'm going to do that spending big on two players i'm
much more much more interested in spending big on three i thought i could kind of get away with
the studs and duds approach it didn't work out in a 12 team league jamie can you tell us the rest
of your team. So you had Lamb and Gentie, and I'm guessing you did a $100 budget. Now, Dan talked
about $200 budget. That might be a little bit more standard. If you see our rankings on the website,
CBSports.com slash fantasy slash football, you will, as Jamie mentioned, you will see the dollar
amounts next to the names, but those are based on $100 budgets. So double it if you're in a
$200 budget, unless it's like a $1 player. That might still just be a $1 player.
You know, while you look up that team name, I'm just going to throw out a few other things here.
Jamie does this really, really well. There's a kicker you like. There's a kicker you like.
is a DST you like, throw them out as your first nomination.
It kind of goes in order.
You know, everybody, there's 12 people in a league.
You get a turn to nominate and then, you know, goes over and over.
But throw out the kicker and see if anybody's willing to bid $2 and probably shouldn't.
Maybe on Aubrey for me, but probably not.
And, you know, and just let them have it if they, if they over, if they bid more than you're willing.
But you might get the guy, the kicker you want.
You might get the DST you want for a dollar really early.
It's a win-win.
It really is the one, the one rate.
easy win-win in your draft either you get that defensive kicker defense or kicker that's good
for $1 the minimum price or you force someone to spend $2 on that position which is always a bad
move and I will say this because a lot of people are doing this so Dave the way he set it up there
were no kicker defense right so what I did with this similar strategy I wanted to see
how low can I go with a certain quarterback so I put Drake may up for bid very early for $2 and I
got him for $2 if somebody took him for three which is more
than I have him. I have him as a $2 player. If somebody were taking for three, great. I made
somebody spend a dollar than I think more than I think he's worth. So I got him for $2 late. So that
was just something, okay, now my quarterback's out of the way. I ended up getting Kyler Murray for $2 as
well. So for $4, I have Kyler Murray and Drake May. I love that. You know, I probably could
have gotten one of those for maybe a dollar if I waited even a little longer. But $3, $4 for two
quarterbacks. If you're going with the late strategy, clearly you're not going to do that with the
early quarterbacks.
So if you like to draft late quarterbacks, put the other quarterbacks up early.
Lamar Jackson, Josh, let people spend $10, $15 on those guys and now you're killing somebody
else's budget.
A big strategy for me is make people waste money.
Not waste money, not waste money, but make them spend.
Okay, spend money.
I mean, we're not saying they're doing the wrong thing.
I'll rephrase it.
Put players that you don't want for bid as much as possible to make them waste money you will
not spend. Yes, exactly. And that was one of Dan's tips to nominate players on your avoid
list and positions and tears you've already spent in. So basically, nominate players that you're
not going to spend money on, let somebody out, just let money come off the board.
There are ways to do. Yeah. Go ahead. Sorry. No, that's okay. So, Jamie, you have your team?
Yep. Okay, so 12 team, give me, give me everything we need to know.
Quarterbacks are Drake May and Kyler Murray. Running backs are Ascent and Jentie and
Omarine Hampton. Receivers are C.D. Lamb and Tyree Killett is a two receiver two flex league.
Tight end is Tucker Kraft. Right now, my two flexes would be Crystal Lave and Jalen Warren.
On the bench, I have Zach Charbonnet, Trey Benson, and Najee Harris, and Darnal Mooney and Luther
Burden. Oh, that's a really interesting team. Because you don't have an elite quarterback.
You don't have an elite tight end, although I think Kyler and Drake may have this, have that potential.
But on paper, you don't have that, right? But man, you've got.
Really good high-end talent.
You got C.D. Lam, Ashton, Genti, Tyreek Hill, and Omari and Hampton.
So you have, you know, in my opinion, four top 30 players, certainly four top 36 players.
It's like having an extra pick in the first three rounds.
Your benches, your flexes are not great.
Olave and Jalen Warren.
Taking Charbonnet, putting him on your bench, that's great.
I would argue that they're fine in the 12th team league.
They're not.
Not great, but fine.
Yeah, absolutely.
So do you like this team?
I mean for for the way that the the the league is structured absolutely you know so it's it's funny because I read Dan so Dan did the recap of Dave's information and Dan just took a you know broad view of the league and giving you auction strategies and his evaluation of which is interesting because he didn't take part in it and he had Tyreek as one of the better values which I agree but I took him somewhat early and I hated it as I'm watching it unfold now again the the
the bigger picture of you of getting four players in the first, you know, four of the top
36, 30 players, whatever the case may be, you have to love that if you value Tyree Kill
there, which I do. But when I saw that that $11 could have potentially turned into, and I don't
know how it went this way, but like Ricky Pearsall and Emeka Buka, for example, or maybe
that's later, that 11 becomes $14. And I get those two players versus the one. And now I have
another player in a flex, you know. So for, for me, the way I do most of my auction,
or salary caps like I like to do that a little bit more but the the top two running backs top two
wide receivers I feel like I can compete with anybody if those guys help is this funny about the way for
you to like I'm in an inception or something with Jamie talking on the left you see you not to have the
left box then Jamie was in the right box on the actual article that's exactly what I was going to say
that is a good point Jamie but and I think that's something you can't really predict because a lot
of the times those players like at Buga I don't know when he came off in this auction I was hoping
that I would get a nomination order because that helps me kind of understand the auction better.
But depending on where he came off on the board, there's a lot of times people are sitting on
that one player.
So you think like, oh, you're looking at your tiers and your rankings and you're like,
I have this money saved.
If Bucca is still on the board, this is awesome.
Nobody.
And then you get to that bid and bang, everyone's just bang, bang, bang, it's a bidding war.
And you've now either paid a bad price for him or you've had to bow out of that bid with no real
backup plan.
So to me, it's really important.
A Bucca went for six.
I meant just when he was nominated.
Yeah, yeah, and it's hard to say based on that.
This is also remember a $100 auction, so this would have been $212, something in that range.
But the spending and the nominating is really important to me because it's very nuanced.
I believe that when a tier one player is nominated early, as in the first nomination or the second nomination, 80, this is a raw number that's guessing in my mind, but 80% of the time I feel like, and I've done hundreds of auctions, that's going to be one of the best values.
the draft. Neighbors comes off the board first. He goes for 40 and then you see Nico 45 and, and,
you know, player BTJ 44. But, but when those tier five, six type players at Buka maybe is one of them or
like a Godwin or something like that come off the board and are nominated early, those tend to be
the most overpriced worst values of the draft because people still aren't used to what they should be
spending on that tier. And there's a lot of money still left for everyone. So I always see those early
bids when it's a buzzy player like if somebody puts r j harvey in early or something like that
end up being some of the worst values because what people don't realize about auctions is no matter
how you plan it and even if you go in planning to budget yourself out and save money everybody spends
everybody spends their budget earlier than they want to most people do and there is going to come a
point an inflection point in that auction where the money just falls off a cliff and there are
so many values we had so a lot of times when those early tier five six players are nominated they end up
being bad value because when you finally get down to their tier, the three or four other guys,
nobody has more than three or four bucks to spend on those guys. Yeah. And that's why if I like
RJ Harvey, for example, and I want RJ Harvey, I'm not nominating him with my first nomination.
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Okay.
All right, so so far, map out the values of your draft.
You know, Dan kind of explain that if you want to go back and listen, but have an idea
of what you want to spend on a specific tier of players before you go in.
Nominate players that you don't want.
Get that money off the board.
Jamie gave you his team.
team with kind of, I don't want to call it Studs and Duds, but a little top heavy with two
first round picks and two, I guess we'll call them third round picks and Tyree Kill and Omari and
Hampton. So Lamb, Gentie, Hampton, Tyree Kill, built out a very good team that way in a 12
team league with two flexes. The shallower the league, maybe the more aggressive you want to be
with studs and duds. I personally think that in auctions, I'm more likely to take Jamie's
approach spending $4 out of $100, so 4% of my budget on Kyler Murray and Drake May or some
combination like that.
Quarterback is not a position I value as much because if I spend very little on them,
I can get good quarterback for $1 or $2 or $2 or 1% of my budget.
This frees me up to take two first round studs, just like Jamie did.
So that's my personal philosophy.
I also think Dan, you touched on it.
I think the best values in drafts are like the rounds 5 through 8 picks.
They're not sexy.
this is going to be the Jameson Williams
and the Jerry Judis and the Jalen Wattles
and the R.J. Harvey's of the world.
They usually don't get nominated early in the draft
for whatever reason.
They just always seem to be great values to me in auctions.
Swift went for like five bucks.
Pollard went for like six bucks.
Exactly.
The money always falls off at some point in an auction
and you want to be there to capitalize on it.
But I don't say all those names.
Like an R.J. Harvey type at him,
I would imagine he just gets overbid.
and you end up spent, like, I was in Travion Henderson, you can't really get in auctions,
these guys, because that's the whole point of an auction.
You can get who you want.
If you love Henderson or you love Harvey, you just get in a bidding war, and you don't
want to be the one winning that bidding war because auctions to me are all about value,
maximizing value with every single dollar you spend.
Okay.
Well, I was just giving an example of that 80-3.
Go ahead.
Real quick on what Dan said, like, if you don't love the buzzworthy guys, avoid them because
they're going to be expensive.
Unless they're later.
Like a Bucca for six is a little surprised me.
I thought he went for more.
All right, Dan, go ahead and give me two more tips,
then we'll start getting into the emails.
Yep.
So another tip is, and you touched on this a little bit at the quarterback position,
I actually think there's two ways to play quarterback.
One way is the way you describe.
And under that way, what I really want people to focus on,
and this is very important for an auction draft is,
if you're in a one quarterback league,
wait till 11 quarterbacks come off the board before you.
you buy your quarterback. You may say, oh, I want Kyler Murray at two bucks or three bucks or
Drake May. I guarantee you that if you just wait till teams have filled their starting quarterbacks
in one QB league, you're getting that guy for a dollar or two dollars. No one at that point
wants to spend money because it'll be mid-draft and no one wants to spend that extra money on a backup
quarterback. Same goes for Superflex. If you're in a 10-team league, understand that 20 are off the board
and you can capitalize on that value for those quarterback. If you agree with me that there's not
much of a drop off between, you know, that final, you know, ADP quarterback one and ADP
quarterback two for the Superflex.
That's one way.
The other way, though, is like looking at the auction you guys did, Jamie, you and Dave,
I don't know, man.
Like, I sometimes think in these, it is actually incredibly valuable to buy the tier one elite
quarterbacks, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, because they're going so cheap.
No one wants to spend.
Everyone's in the same boat here, it feels like we're all, I don't want to spend on a
quarterback, right?
Yeah, but that's not, that's not going to be typical.
I think of your, you know, your average Joe fantasy league, right?
I don't know, though.
I don't know.
I think more and more leagues, that play auction at least, are kind of feeling, I mean,
the default way to feel is, why would I not just wait at quarterback and get it for two bucks?
Can I just combine those two?
Because I think they work.
Because, again, it's not, you're not nominating Jackson, then Allen, then Daniels, then Burrow.
It's, I nominated Drake May, maybe as the first quarterback.
and then it was Dack Prescott
and then it was
Jay Daniels and Joe Burrow.
So to your point, Dan,
like if you see
that the quarterbacks
are starting to go,
but it may be
the first five
I think you got to separate those.
So if you want an elite quarterback,
you're probably going to have to spend.
One of the top five guys
is probably going to spend.
But if you don't have much difference
between Mahomes and Baker
and Knicks and Dak and love
and Purdy and all these guys,
you can then just let
exactly what Dan
said like let everybody else start to spend four dollars five dollars three dollars and you may get
the guy you really want for a buck right question jamie so let's say we think that josh allen
and lamar jackson should be going in a draft around the same time as tiree kill how much did you
pay for tary kill out of a hundred dollars it's the same price he paid 11 and those guys went for 10 or
11 but do you think that josh i would have josh allen over tyrie kill i think they're about the same
okay that that may be fair but you also have on the flip side running backs kenneth like i'm
looking at the auction results right now just get an idea of if i agree if i still believe i do
kind of believe in this because like we're talking about alvin camara for 12 bucks bruce hall
for 13 bucks chuba hover trevianne henderson like james connor this is 10 dollars am i going to
feel better about cj strout at one or kiler murray at two and then missing out on those
running backs. I don't know. I think I think this is where the skill of being in a salary cap
draft is of when do you put yourself in on that player? And at what price point do you take
yourself out on that player? Because what ends up happening is I don't have a running back that I
feel comfortable with. So now I'm overspending for Bruce Hall because he's probably the 30th
running back on the, but I'm not saying him, but Camara or wherever the case may be. And so now you're
forced to spend more because you feel like you're getting left out if he's the last guy in your
tier. And so I think the difference with the quarterbacks is, typically you're going to see
the top five guys get bid up early. So at what point do you want to commit to spending on those
particular players? And that's what you have to sort of go into with in the beginning. Like if you say
I'm going to go 10% on my number one quarterback, so $20 and $200 budget, $10. And, you know, and so maybe
it's a dollar over or a dollar less, then you did your job, right?
I got, I got Joe Burrow for $10.
I'm cool with that.
So, Dak may go for a dollar, and Dak may be close to, or Mayfield may go for $2,
and he may end up being close to, you know, Joe Burrow as the season plays itself out.
But I know I know I committed that, and I'm fine with it, and I know I'm not going to
get Tyree Kill now.
I'm going to have to settle for potentially Calvin Ridley, which he may be fine with, and that's
okay.
But you just have to understand what you're going for prior to the draft.
because you said something at the start of this.
Whenever these drafts start,
everybody's amped up.
Everybody's amped up.
It's not like a snake draft where you're waiting for your pick.
You have the ability, you see,
man, I really want a Mecca Buka,
and then there's somebody that just goes,
you know what, let's just start it right from the beginning.
Let's light the fire right now.
I'm going to put the most buzzworthy player up for a bit.
Trayvion Hederson,
a meca Buka, Marion Hampton.
I was surprised I got $10,000, to be honest.
Yeah, it's an insane value.
I'm going to put the most buzzworthy player up right away
and let everybody spend their money and drive up the cost.
And to be honest, like, that's what I would do.
Okay.
Keep throwing those buzz with your players out there and let people spend their money.
So to the quarterbacks, you know, people get excited about those top five guys.
And if you put them up early, you're probably going to get them off the board for more money than you're willing to spend unless, of course, you're one of those managers.
All right?
Let's say Josh Allen goes for 11% of the budget, right?
I mean, this is the only position, really, where the guy who's going for $1, you know,
has a potential to be not as good as Josh Allen, but really, really good.
And you're talking about someone who's going for 11 times as much as that player.
Whereas if Tyree Kills going for $11, who's a $1 wide receiver?
It's not going to be someone I think who, like Drake May or, you know, or, you know, that's, that's, it's it's the same in a snake drive.
Those elite quarterbacks have proven to be the easiest wins, at least according to Ryan Heath's data.
They've proven to be the easiest way to locate a league winner over the last two or three seasons.
they're scoring a lot more.
It seems on paper like, oh, I can get Drake May for two bucks.
It seems great.
The drop-off isn't there.
But I don't know, ultimately, like, those guys are elite quarterbacks.
They're going to score at elite rates.
Tyree Kill is not a guarantee to score any kind of elite rate.
We see one, almost on average.
We see one elite quarterback emerge from nowhere.
Right.
In some cases, like last year, we saw three, essentially.
We saw Daniels.
Yeah.
We saw golf.
And we saw him.
Okay.
And they all were pick 100 or later.
Yeah.
And Burrow was wildly performed his ADP, too.
No, he wasn't 100 or later.
His ADP was lower than what his production was by a lot.
By a lot.
But also, I got to point this out.
Like, Josh Allen is not scoring as many points as he used to.
He is not scoring as many points as he did in the Stefan Diggs era.
When he was throwing a lot more.
I mean, you're going on in a one-year sample size.
He's running out for a two-year sample size.
Sorry, because he's not throwing it when Diggs was good.
that three-year stretch
when Diggs was like all pro
you're talking about
28 or more points per game
last year I mean it's a little skewed
because it's very skewed
because he played one snap
in week 18 but even without that
he's not he's not like
they don't run enough plays
there's way too run heavy now
they don't throw as much
he's not throwing 35 touchdowns anymore
his passing yards per game
he's still great
but like Laura Jackson
was that guy last year
it wasn't really Josh Allen
like Josh Allen
wasn't as good as he usually was
So two questions.
I guess the thing would be if you're taking Alan or spending that much money on Alan,
you're kind of understanding that his floor is probably better than a lot of players.
Oh, yeah.
So that's part of it.
He's my QB1.
I was all that said.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I'm surprised he's your QB1 is my next question.
I'm surprised he's your QB1 over Lamar.
Because Lamar has had four, between his two MVP,
no, he didn't win MVP last year, which was just a joke.
Between his first MVP season and last year, his two 30-point seasons,
when you azer stat it
to benefit him
and take out his injured games
he's usually around 24 fantasy points
24 to 25 and that is great
but Josh Allen is better than that
every single year
Josh Allen's usually 27 or more
Lamar Jackson has just had
way too much variance
so his highs are higher than Josh Allen's
Allen is more consistent
that's why he's my QB1
gotcha
All right so those are some auction tips for you
and can we just say real quick
does everybody agree
that is beneficial to have money late.
Yes.
You want to have money late,
but just make sure that you have everything mapped out
because there are times where you have money late
and there's no players left to spend on.
So you have to understand where the prices are going
because if you get that,
you end up with money after your auction.
I never feel that way.
I never feel like there are no players to spend.
I mean, in a deep league maybe,
but in a 12 team league,
there are so many times I see at the end of auctions,
players who should not be spent on
getting spent four, five, six extra dollars on
because there's no one.
There was, I remember one of our auctions last year.
I don't know if it was our mock or the one we played out.
I spent my last $8 because.
Yes.
Yeah.
I wrote the one I wrote about last year.
Yeah, I was redoing that.
There was somebody who actually left $11 of their budget.
Singletary, I think it was.
There was somebody actually left $11 in their budget.
So it didn't spend $11.
Yes.
Which, that was, oh, yesterday.
Oh, wow.
Because Doosable did that with a year before.
But it's funny you say that, Adam, because.
when it came down to the end of it, Dave had $4, and I had $3, and I knew we were both
eyeing the same player.
And it was Keon Coleman.
And so we were the two with the most money left, four and $3.
And so I put Kean Coleman up for three just to see if Dave was not paying attention.
And of course, he spent his last $4 on it.
That does remind me of a quick tip.
And I know, Adam, we have to move on.
So I'll say this for those listening.
If you want to talk more auction and get more tips, just reach out to me and we'll do it.
But one more quick tip, at the end time of your draft, be aware of every single player's max bid.
If you have a max bid of three or four and someone else has a max bit of four, it is so vitally important for you to know that because you need to hit four before they hit four because no one can go to five and the first person to four gets that player.
So understand teams is max bid at the end of a draft so you can get to that max bid first.
If it's $1, $2, you both have four.
Don't bid three, bid four, because you're going to win the player at that price.
Okay.
All right.
Questions from Draftathon, questions from the emails, fantasy football at CBSI.com, Apple Podcasts.
We only had two draftathon questions, and one of them was who were the top five finishers in last year's FFT Open?
And I was looking for that information, and I don't know.
So, Todd, I am sorry.
Terrible answer to your question.
Yeah, it wasn't me.
I'll tell you that much.
I forget who of the, you know, the CBS crew, the managers made it to the championship round, but I did not.
Okay. Yeah, I drafted way too much Travis ETN last year. Definitely did in the FFT Open.
The second question is from Billy Bob. Billy Bob is from a town in West Texas. And he says,
I wanted to see if you had looked into the coaching styles, tight end, sorry, statistics for tight ends in relation to the coaching
styles for certain head coaches.
Specifically, I'm interested in Brock Bowers under Chip Kelly and Evan Ingram under Sean
Peyton.
And he wants to know, you know, and he came up, he had all the info on Zach Ertz and
Jimmy Graham and all that.
Yeah, I mean, Chip Kelly does have a history of throwing at the tight end.
He also has a history of using multiple tight ends.
Sean Payton had Jimmy Graham.
He had Jeremy Shockey before that, but then he had Jimmy Graham who led the team in
targets for four straight seasons from 2011, 2014.
Then he had Ben Watson, who had 109 targets in 2015, and that was pretty much it.
So I'll just start this off and say, my personal philosophy is there are some things,
like Sean Payton, for example, throwing a running backs.
That I think you can take to the bank.
The rest of it, to me, is personnel driven.
I don't think you can look at what Jimmy Graham did and say that Sean Payton is like a tight end guy.
I do think he wants to be.
He's always seemed to want an upgrade there.
and he could never really get it.
But if you don't have the right, what did you say?
Kobe Fleener.
Yeah.
Kobe Fleener had 82 targets in 16 games in 2016.
That's not bad.
But we couldn't do it with Adam Troutman, you know, that stuff like that.
So you got to have the right player.
I think he wants to use the tight end, and I think he will use him.
But, Jamie, where are you on this kind of, specifically with tight ends?
Any coaches that come to mine?
I always look for, so Arthur Smith, for example, pro and con.
He started as a tight-end coach before he was the offense coordinator in Tennessee.
And then he goes and gets Kyle Pitts,
and then he decides he wants to turn John Smith into the better tight end on the Falcons for some reason.
So it works out both ways sometimes.
There was one other guy that was an offensive coordinator that was a tight-ins coach previously where it was great.
I'll look for it.
I'll have that on Friday.
I think exactly what you said, though, applies for both situations.
Sean Payton and the Broncos went out and got Evan Ingram.
He wants a playmaking tight end.
Chip Kelly and Pete Carroll don't walk into the Las Vegas Raiders and say,
we're going to make Brock Bowler something that he's not.
They're going to find ways to maximize his potential.
Now, this could come at a fault where they're using him too much
as a wide receiver because his receiving skills are so good and taking away some mismatches,
which has kind of been the fault with Kyle Pitts in some cases, like trying to put him out wide
and make him beat up corners as opposed to outrunning linebackers and safeties.
So we'll see if that sort of plays about, I don't think so, but it could.
Do you worry that they're going to use Michael Mayer the way they used to use like Garrett Selick
in for Chip Kelly used to do that?
Yes, of course, because they're, whenever these teams have the ability to find a blocking
tight end. They're going to run 12 personnel. They're going to use these guys to, you know, be
essentially an offensive lineman. It's why Washington for the Steelers should just become a tackle at
this point already. If you can block at that position and so catch the ball, George Kittle is the
best example of this by far. But if you can seal an edge, if you can, you know, pancake a guy, like
these guys are valuable assets and then still be threats when they can, you know, do a chip
block and then get into the end zone and catch a touchdown to it. So yes, there's going to be a little bit
of a problem for those type of players, but I still think, again, you don't take a generational
talent of Brock Bowers and not use him to maximize his potential. You don't bring in Evan Ingram
to not maximize his potential. Will it play itself out? I think you said it best, Adam. He got
Jimmy Graham and all of a sudden he's a tight-ins coach. Well, why wasn't he a tight-ins coach with
Adam Trotman? Yeah, exactly. He tried with Shockey. I do think Sean Payton, I think he's a valuable
player in his offense, what do they call it, the Joker role, the guy that can be pretty...
That doesn't necessarily have to be a tight end all the time. It doesn't have to, but
There's speculation is that Evan Ingram is going to be that guy.
So, yeah, I mean, he's a, I'm surprised I haven't drafted him because I liked him a lot more.
But now I think I don't know why, for whatever reason, I haven't drafted Evan Engram.
All right, we're going to take a break.
And we're going to read your emails.
Got a great question about Josh Jacobs to start and taking both Puka and Devante Adams and things like that.
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from austin subject line what'd you say i just did a quick austin what's up all right hey man my man
By the way, I was at dinner tonight.
Bernie Williams was at the restaurant.
What?
Who was?
Bernie Williams.
Wow.
Did you say a little?
No, I didn't.
I was telling a story and he walked right by our table and I was telling the story.
I'm like, yeah, so anyway, I was playing tennis against this loser.
Oh, that's Bernie Williams right there.
And then I just continued the story.
It looks like the type of guy who'd be too scared to say anything anyway.
Yeah, I wouldn't do that.
But I don't do it either because I don't want to bother them.
So it's not being scared.
For you, it's being polite.
For me, it's being scared.
I get it.
Yeah, 100%.
I think the listeners are agreed.
I don't get the lack of appeal for Josh Jacobs.
Dave and Jamie said the one-two turn is too early.
Well, I took Jacobs at the one-two turn.
Christian McCaffrey and Josh Jacobs.
I passed on A-Chance.
So many red flags are popping up there.
I just feel like Jacobs checks all the boxes,
and people aren't pumped for this guy.
He's the third downback, the goal line back, and catches passes.
I will step in and say he's not exactly the third down back here.
At least he wasn't last year.
They didn't really have a designated third downback.
Right.
So anyway, Austin says that we and basically everyone, except for CBS ADP, by the way, is too low on Josh Jacobs.
Dan, your thoughts?
I think he's right.
Now, that doesn't necessarily mean I would take him at the one-two turn.
There are plenty of players I prefer over him there.
But I have him over HN.
I have him over a few players that maybe consensus-wise, he'd be ranked below.
Now, the reason why I think he's not being picked at the one-two turn is because, one,
It does sort of feel like he ran hot last year in the sense of Jordan Love was injured,
playing hurt, and that passing game fell apart.
So they leaned on the run game.
This year, should Jordan Love regain the form that he had two years ago,
especially in that second half of the 20, 23 season with added weapons on the field,
Matthew Golden, among them, will the running game take a step back?
It's possible.
I mean, I still think he's going to score a lot of touchdowns.
I still think Marshaun Lloyd is like not a good, I never liked his day, but I'm not a fan of his.
So I don't really know, I mean, Emmanuel Wilson, they have, they have,
some depth I guess behind that and he's injured again Lloyd so there's no real competition it's
just a combination in my mind of one did he run too hot last year and will they be more pass heavy
and two he's not an explosive runner at least it hasn't been recently so you're not getting those
james cook long touchdowns or the jonathan taylor long touchdowns i think it's the fact that he's
not considered a sexy pick yeah and you know you you said why he's not getting picked there
then our adp suggests that he is which is surprising you know so i
I just did that story of, you know, why, what's the bus case for all the first-round picks?
And so he's in that story because he's the 12th pick in our average draft position.
So you mentioned you have him over A-chan.
If A-chan's not practicing at some point this weekend, I'm sorry, if he's not back at practice
after the preseasoning game this weekend in a day or two, then I'm going to move Jacobs
ahead of him.
And it might make more sense if you're just playing it safe to take Jacobs ahead of him.
He is as steady a running back as you will find.
he had the one bad season in Las Vegas or Oakland they may have still been I don't remember when they made move with the Raiders where he held out and was not the same guy he is a candidate for 50 catches he is a candidate for he's averaged 40 45 catches in his last four seasons um so he's a candidate of 50 catches which will be a high end but 30 35 to 50 catches he'll be somewhere in that range you know depending which could help if jordan love is healthy I don't think jordan love being healthy is such a hindrance him because the offense will move and operate better and so there might be
be even more touched out potential for him if you could believe that but he's just safe like
yeah and we had this conversation briefly about our idp league where jake sealy took kairn williams
at the 1213 the 1-2 turn if you believe in josh jacobs you're not getting him
you have to take him there so if you are like i want the safety of him versus taylor
versus chase brown versus irving versus kairn and don't love those receipts
receivers there, which now we're seeing basically past neighbors, is Puka with a quarterback
of the back injury, Brian Thomas, the wild card of, you know, Travis Hunter.
I would take Nico over him 10 out of 10, but you might be able to take both those guys.
But in any event, you get the point.
He's just safe.
And when I say safe, top five safe.
Like, he's got that upside.
Yeah, sixth per game last year.
And 37 catches last year in 17 games, but, oh, 36 catches, pardon me.
He left one game after week 18.
He played 31% of the snaps.
But if they throw more, he's going to catch the ball more.
So he'll have fewer carries, but he'll have more catches.
And he did catch a touchdown last year for the first time in his career.
All right, that's Josh Jacobs.
Next question is from Charles.
If I take Puka in round two, how much would that affect you're taking Devante Adams in round four?
He doesn't always last.
He's more like a round three guy for us, Devante Adams.
How many wide...
He's not for everybody else.
You think he's around four?
Is that his ADP?
he falls around for you i i just did a draft uh on on sleeper for michael fabiano sports
illustrated i got adams at the uh four or five turn four five okay okay because of the
stafford stuff well i was picking i was picking one so he came back okay um all right well anyway if
you so it's a quick question jami if you draft puka are you taking adams off your board no i i
I mean, it would have to be like, I hate everybody else on the board.
Like, you tell me I get Jamar Chase round one and T. Higgins falls to round four.
I'm doing that 10 out of 10.
You tell me I take Pook on round two and Devonthe Adams is there and I'm, it's him and
Mike Evans and Tyree Kill, I'm pivoting to one of the other older receivers.
Right.
All right.
This is from Josh.
Dear Bo, Justin, Marcus, and Joey.
Say it again.
Bo, Justin, Marcus, and Joey.
And Bo and Marcus are not backfield mates.
They're not.
No, that would have thrown me off.
Is it pop culture or sports?
It's sports.
Bo, Marcus, Justin, and who?
Joey.
Three of them are in the NFL now.
Oh, quarterbacks from the Oregon.
Yeah, yeah.
Bo Nix, Justin Herbert, Marcus Mariotta, Joey,
I need to know what to do about Travis Hunter.
I'm in a 12-team half-P-R league.
He is eligible to start at both wide receiver and cornerback.
How high does that push his draft value in a league where we only start one IDP?
Round two.
Yeah, I could make the case for round one.
I don't think I do that.
I do think the injury risk is pretty real.
Unicorn play.
Well, yeah, and he's already hurt.
If he's going to play both ways.
But, yeah, I mean, if you can start him at cornerback, man, what I'm saying?
Like, round two.
So like after Drake London?
Or where did he go on the IDP?
I didn't get a chance to read to read fully through the IDP mock and see the results.
He can't use them there.
Okay, okay, okay.
In that league.
Yeah.
Plus we start like 10 IDPs in that league.
This is just one.
All right.
question from Mark.
How many rookies?
Hit it right, nine.
Nine.
Nine.
Nine.
Nine.
Ten bench spots.
From Mark, how many rookies on a roster is too many?
In my mock drafts, three receivers and a flex, 12-team PPR.
I like to go Nico and Drake London, and then I might make my next five picks rookies.
Hampton, Henderson, Teteroa McMillan, Harvey, Abuka in rounds three through seven.
And then maybe take either Warren or Loveland as a late tight end.
Dan, is that too many rookies?
You're asking the wrong guy.
I end up drafting way too many rookies.
I had this conversation with Jacob's Day on Beyond the Box Score.
Like, I think in general, because we spend so much time studying the tape of these college
players, we feel like we give ourselves an edge on these college papers, players looking
at the data and the tape.
And that will be a blind spot in my analysis.
And I told him it's probably a blind spot in both of our analysis because we're over
exaggerate.
Let's think a better way to say some oversaturated with data on those.
players versus other players that have just been in the NFL, and I haven't watched as much
of the recent tape for that reason. So I think there is a point where we do overdo it.
I personally am off Trayvion Henderson. I won't be drafting him at all. I've seen where he's
going in auctions and where he's going in snakes, and it's just not a price point. I think it's
close to his ceiling. And if that happens for Harvey, he'll be the same thing. I'll get off.
I'd feel like with Tetaroa McMillan, that's starting to be the case. Like he was for a while in
our draft six, seven round ADP. Now he's shooting up to Faisalm golf ball, the fourth round
of a draft we did so once they get to that point i think where i start to see their ceiling
coming to play i'm off of those players last year you could have won your league so don't go
into with this mindset but you could have won your league with an all rookie lineup but you could
have also lost right if you missed like if you took marvin harrison jrison junior no no no i'm not
i'm not saying i'm not saying specific players you would have had to nail these exact players
you had to have jane dan was a quarterback bucky irving and tyrone tracy at running back yeah
Ladd-McConkie, Brian Thomas, and the league neighbors at receiver, Brockbauer's a tight-end.
You want to say Harrison's the flex?
It could be...
No, I mean, you wouldn't have...
You could have found...
But I forget who the other guy is, but because of the tight-end quarterback, you have to nail those positions to be perfect as a all-rooky team.
I do think that there is a chance to clearly be a little bit too rookie heavy, but again, like, there's so many options here.
Like, I want to have on my bench one of, if not all of them,
Jaden Blue, Bachel Tootin, and Ollie Gordon now.
Like, I want to be invested in those guys.
I want to be invested, if I can, in Luther Burden as a bench receiver.
I obviously want to be in on a Mecca, Buka, as a potential third receiver.
You know, I want to be in on Ted McMillan at the right price.
I want to be on Travis Hunter at the right price.
I certainly want to be in on Triple H at the right price.
You know, so can you have two?
many rookies, sure. I mean, I just gave you a salary cap draft where my starting running
backs are Gentine Hampton. Like, you know, it's clearly the two best running backs, but, you know,
they're unproven. And, you know, again, going back to that story that I referenced,
what did we see from the last two high profile rookies that were the first ones taken in
fantasy leagues? But John Robinson and Marvin Harrison failed. Right. They're awful. They're not awful.
They were bad in their rookie seasons by comparison to what their profiles were.
Do you want me to go through the round two rookies in the last five years?
the guys who were drafted in round two in the NFL draft
and where they finished.
So we had five of them in 2020.
We had DeAndre Swift,
Jonathan Taylor, Cam Acres,
J.K. Dobbins, and A.J. Dillon.
Swift was drafted.
Swift crushed his ADP.
Taylor crushed his ADP.
Remember Taylor?
It was Marlon Mack,
got hurt in week one.
Taylor took the job and ran with it.
Cam Acres was horrible
compared to his ADP.
J.K. Dobbins basically was even.
and A.J. Dillon barely played, played nine games.
He wasn't drafted early.
He was drafted as RB 54.
None of these guys were drafted as top 20 running backs, by the way.
The earliest was Taylor at RB21.
So I'd say you have very mixed results, like kind of two, two, and one.
Javante Williams.
Javante Williams, that's the guy I couldn't think of.
I knew there were a couple of players that couldn't shake the veteran in their backfield.
And Javante was one of them.
He played one game without, was it Gordon?
33 PPR points.
He crushed it,
but he was really
kind of disappointing.
He was drafted as RB 25
and he did finish his RB17.
He finished his RB 26 per game.
So he basically met his ADP,
but it was really frustrating.
We were waiting and waiting and waiting
and it never happened.
And Melvin Gordon was another guy
when he was a rookie
that didn't get the work that we were hoping.
But, you know, so that's like,
Giovante's a cautionary tale.
Breeze Hall was, okay,
He hurt his tour's ACL, but he was incredible.
He was incredible.
Ken Walker was drafted as RB 16 and he finished his RB 18 and he finished his RB 17 per game.
That was a guy that had to wait for Rashad Penny to, of course, get hurt.
But before Penny got hurt, Ken Walker was useless.
Before David Montgomery got hurt, Jemir Gibbs was a bust.
No.
Yes.
He was.
He was a bus to begin that season.
Everything changed.
100% he was a bust to begin before.
Third round pick and everything changed.
And he's not even on this list because he was a first round pick in the NFL draft.
I'm just looking at second round picks in the NFL draft.
James Cook, RB 27 in ADP, did not even finish as a top 50 running back per game, never really got his chance.
Zach Charbonnet, we didn't really think, he wasn't being drafted.
We knew it was a bad situation.
Second round pick, you know.
Jonathan Brooks, you know, different situation.
And then this year it's Judkins, Travion, Henderson, R.J. Harvey, there are a lot of cautionary tales.
This year feels different.
The situations feel better for some of these guys.
Sure, the same was that, yeah.
And this rookie draft class is awesome.
So I don't think that's too many rookies personally.
I think you picked the right ones.
And they're not all going to hit, but listen,
you're not going to hit on all six of your first six picks,
regardless of who you pick, veterans or rookies.
I'm cool with it, man.
I'm all in.
You know, look, I'm pro rookies too,
especially back end of your bench.
That's where I really think you can overinflate them.
All right, next question.
Oh, man, I got like six documents open here.
Let's see if I...
Oh, this is a fun one from Will.
My league, me and my league mate have a sidebed
on whose top four receivers in Dynasty
will score the most points.
So team A and team B, who do you like better?
Team A has Drake London, Amonrault, St. Brown,
Tedderoa McMillan, and George Pickens.
Pretty good.
London, St. Brown.
He said McMillan.
I'm assuming that's Tederoa and Pickens.
Team two is Puka, Brian Thomas Jr., Ladd-McConkey, and Golden.
I like them both.
I give the slight edge to A.
No.
I get the slight edge to B.
B, B's got Pooka, BTJ, and McConkey.
So for the first two, I'm just giving it a wash.
It was London and who?
St. Brown.
Yeah, London and St. Brown, Puka, and who was the first?
I don't see, like, that is not a wash to me, really.
London and St. Brown.
E.C.J. and Puka versus London and St. Brown.
Assuming Stafford stays healthy, I mean, I definitely prefer.
Like, I have Pooka and Brian Thomas Jr.
ahead of both London and St. Brown.
If there's health.
But, okay, we'll call out a wash.
Call it a wash.
And then I think that you gain a lot.
I mean, I'm super high on Picking.
So that's probably why I like that team more.
It was Piggins and who?
McConkey.
No, no, no.
Pockens.
Pekins.
Teteroa and McMillan.
Yeah, very high on McMillan.
I just feel like you're getting the McConkey's not going to be outscored those two by
as much as they're going to outscore Golden by.
I guess it depends on how you value Golden.
Like, I don't think Golden should outperform Ted.
McMillan, yeah.
But it would not shock me if he does.
That's fair.
All right, last email.
Sorry to Vinny.
I didn't get to your question, but.
Just answer me.
Read it.
This is from, no, this is a five-minute answer.
This is from someone with no name.
You got somewhere to go?
Yeah, I got to get these episodes a little shorter here.
And I don't want to hear anything about Tunis.
I didn't mention any of that stuff today.
Remember we asked, like, who's a wide receiver, a highly touted wide receiver like
Marvin Harrison Jr.
That had a pretty disappointing rookie season.
I couldn't think of anyone.
Sammy Watkins.
Calvin Johnson, 48 catches, 756 yards, four touchdowns.
He played nearly a full season.
And then he became Megatron after that.
And I wish I had ADP data from 2008.
I think his rookie year was 2007.
I'd love to know what happened there.
All right, fine.
Jamie, you want to answer this question in 30 seconds?
This one's from Vinny.
What do you, okay, so why are we ranking Jonathan Taylor
as a top 12 running back in PPR?
If you look at his numbers from weeks one through 15,
he scored six total touchdowns and rushed for 911 yards
and he missed three games.
Final three games, he rushed for 520 yards and six touchdowns.
Joe Flacco started two of them.
It's actually a good point.
We don't bring up enough.
He was having a pretty disappointing season
until they gave him 30 carries a game down the stretch,
which obviously we can't expect.
So how confident are you and Jonathan Taylor and why?
His numbers in the passing game were much better with Joe Flacco.
I expect that to be the case with Daniel Jones.
I still think he's going to dominate touches despite the addition of DJ Giddens.
A little bit concerned about the offensive line because they're going through some changes,
but I think they have an opportunity here to be a much better ball control offense
and keep the ball a lot longer with Daniel Jones
than they would have with Richardson,
who has just a lot of wild, you know, highs and lows
of, you know, not sustaining drives, most importantly.
So Taylor's going to get every opportunity to carry the ball
and may lead the NFL in carries.
You know, so if you're in leagues with point per carry,
first down, all those things,
like there's an opportunity here for Jonathan Taylor
to potentially crush his ADP.
It could be a top five overall pick.
So I love him in round two.
And how do you rank that five-trier,
five running-back tier of Jacobs,
Taylor, Bucky, Chase Brown, Kiron.
Love all of them in round two.
For me, Jacobs is one because I think his high-end potential is just as good as anybody,
but the floor is the safest.
I have Chase Brown second, Bucky, third, Taylor, fourth, but they're back to back-to-back.
I think if the two second-year starters hit in Chase Brown and Bucky Irving,
they're going to be better than maybe three or four guys in front of them, there's that much upside.
So I take the upside play of Chase Brown, the upside play of Bucky, but perfectly happy.
happy to take Taylor there.
And then Kyrin's not a distant fifth,
but he's slightly behind those guys.
So I like the other four a little bit better.
Oh, oh, yeah.
Fantasy cops.
This one is from Mike from Long Island.
Deer Cadillac, LaGarrett, and Warwick.
All bucks running backs.
I'm in a 14-out-out-out-out-in-there.
Yeah, come on now.
I'm in a 14-team high-stakes fantasy football league
that drafts in person.
Last year was my first year in the league,
and I brought my computer along
with printed rankings reports
to help guide me through the draft.
I subscribe to a well-known
fantasy football service
that plugs into the draft
and suggests players to select
based on who's available,
team needs, et cetera.
The draft is done offline.
We add names to a draft board,
but players are added to team rosters
in Yahoo by the commissioner in real time,
which was recognized by the program
to provide future recommendations.
Some of the league members
thought this gave me an unfair
advantage. They voted and they passed a ban on the draft assist technology. What do you consider
draft assist technology? And what's your take overall on this? Interesting. I would say if
it's a tough one, because like you're spending your own money to give yourself an edge.
But obviously everybody else is not doing this.
And the idea of doing it in person is to make this a fun and joy of experience,
not watch you sitting over there on your computer going through a program.
Do you know these?
I am honestly very.
I've heard of these a lot.
It's funny because I have a friend that just likes to bust my balls all the time.
And he's like, this guy has his program that he always wants to play a league with you
because he thinks his program is going to beat you.
I'm like, cool, do it.
Let's fine.
I'm sorry.
I know I said a bad word.
But I think if you're going to do it in person, like, do what everybody else is doing, have fun.
I got no problem with it, though.
I can't imagine.
But it's like, if everybody's going there to be in person, it's to not sit there and stare at a screen.
Like, it's just supposed to be fun.
I get it.
There's monetary stuff involved.
You want to win.
You're competitive.
I'm as competitive anybody over me.
But you wouldn't ban this.
I would not ban it.
No, I think that's ridiculous.
I would say, though, like, it's, like, maybe he should just, you know, do all your homework
and your research beforehand and then bring the papers with you.
Like, don't rely on something to give yourself that much of an edge.
Like, it's not, if these are your friends, like, you want to beat them because you know better,
not because you had to add something to it.
It's interesting.
My friends always make fun of me in my home league because I just show up to my draft with
my printed tiers and that's it.
And I just trust my own rankings.
that we do this all year for research.
These guys have like programs and everything going on.
And it's just,
it depends how you want to play the draft
and how confident you are in your own takes.
Because,
you know,
if he's using a program like he is there,
I don't know if I necessarily see anything wrong with that.
It's essentially just,
it's like using your tiers,
Jamie.
It's not that much different than that.
If he was just going to go straight by your tears.
But it's giving him real time.
Yeah.
Scenarios that are going to help.
Listen, everybody.
Yeah,
I see what you're saying based on how the draft is going.
Okay.
Everybody plays this for different reasons.
Again, you know, comments and you're like, you know, if money's on the line, I'm playing
to win, what Johnny just, you know, posted.
I get that.
I get that.
You know, like, you want your money to make something, you know, and that's why you're doing this.
It's fine.
I don't have a problem.
I don't think it should be banned.
But just personally, like, it'd be like if somebody said, hey, Adam, come to my draft
with me and draft for me.
Yeah, I know.
I honestly would love to go up against some computer.
I think it'd be fun.
You're against a computer.
You probably do it more than you know.
I don't think so.
I don't think anybody I draft with does that.
Not in my leagues, yeah.
Anyway, that's fantasy cops.
Send us the email.
Fantasy football at CBSI.com
and put fantasy cops in subject.
What was that joke I talked over?
Dave calls you all that called Jamie all the time for advice.
My brother does.
Well, we do know that you cheat in one league.
Who me?
No, Adam cheats in one league.
What league?
Big Burger.
You're basically a computer for somebody that you know very well.
Oh, my wife?
Listen, man, if I were cheating in that league and we haven't won it one time,
then I'm doing a really bad job.
All right, some Apple podcast questions here.
This is from...
You got to post what Johnny just wrote.
He cracks me up, man.
What is he right?
With this?
Yeah.
Taking my friend's money is the funnest part of fantasy.
I take pictures of me spending all the winnings
and close into the league chat.
That's good.
You're probably a fun guy to play fantasy with Johnny.
All right, so the question is from Cab fan.
A few buddies and I are checking out a guillotine league
for the first time.
Was curious if you guys were going to do a pod
or a long segment dedicated to it.
No, I don't think so, but...
I'm doing my first one tomorrow night, as a matter of fact.
All right, so give me 30 seconds.
I did really like your take, though, on Rishi Rice, Jamie, a couple episodes ago.
You know what, for what it's worth, Dave actually admitted in the YouTube comments that he was wrong about his, with his Rishi Rice take.
So he just missed that.
But just give me 30 seconds on how to draft the Giansian League.
You want to sort of live in the middle for the first four or five weeks of the season.
You want to take players that have a very safe floor with the chance to have upside, not necessarily huge downside.
So I was just talking to a friend of mine that's in this league with me doing the draft tomorrow.
And the comparison I gave him was, I would rather have Cortland Sutton than George Pickens.
I think Cortland Sutton is going to be as steady as they come with plenty of upside versus maybe the volatility of what George Pickens, the spike weeks versus some of the down weeks.
I don't know if that's the best comparison.
Jameson Williams maybe, similar type of player.
So the biggest thing really is if you survive the first couple of weeks, how you manage your budget.
because everybody, once they lose, all of their players go into waivers, go on to waivers.
So, Saquan Barkley, the Saquan Barclay manager, the Christian McCaffrey manager, the Ashton
Genti manager, they may lose in the first week because of a bad matchup or just bad performance
across the board with their team.
And now you are faced with, in week two, a first round pick available to you with a
$1,000 budget, $100 dollars a other than case, maybe.
You may get that player and they may still have money to spend later on, but I would like
to try and save as much money to the end.
I've been in this now.
I think I've done like five years worth of key 15 leagues four or five years.
I've been in the final four twice.
And both times I've lost because I've gone up against somebody with more money.
And so my all-star team was not as good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's just the way it works.
So if you can be, if you could have the, you know, most money, the biggest pot at the end of the season,
you're going to be in great shape.
So don't, unless you have to fill a need, like just.
you don't have to win every week.
Unless there's a bonus for it or prize for it, like stay in the middle.
Okay.
Next Apple podcast question.
But you obviously want players that are going to get you off to a good start.
Jerome Ford, for example, one of my big targets for Giotteen leagues because of how
week one, bangles, no Quinchon Junkins.
He could be fantastic to just give you at least one week and he's going to be cheap.
Next question is from Alec.
I have the number one overall pick in our draft.
It's a keeper league.
It's a 10 team league.
and after all the keepers, the three best players available
are going to be A.J. Brown,
Josh Jacobs, and Trey McBride.
Who do you suggest taking?
It's a 10-team league.
How is Ashton Genty not available?
There was a rookie draft because he is R.J. Harvey.
So he has Jefferson, Neighbors, Chase Brown,
Josh Allen, R.J. Harvey, and Braylon Allen.
He is a great core.
Is it fair players available again?
A.J. Brown, Josh Jacobs, and Trey McBride.
PDR League?
Yeah.
It is full.
Actually, I don't know.
Okay.
And if it's PPR, I'll go A.J. Brown.
If it's not PPR, no, I'm going A.J. Brown regardless for me.
What is his roster?
I'm sorry?
He's got Jefferson, neighbors, Chase Brown, Josh Allen, Braylon Allen, R.J. Harvey.
Like, he already has two injured receivers.
And they're going to hopefully be fine.
I'm going Josh Jacobs.
And the question that he had basically was, should I focus on the onesie position in
Trey McBride in a 10-team league?
But I'm not going, you know, this is.
is about six picks difference between Jacobs and Trey McBride. I know I want to get the onesie
positions in the 10 team league. I'm not willing to go that much, you know, six picks or so.
I'm not willing to go that much off the board to get the onesie position personally.
Yeah, I would take Jacobs. All right. That was a good question.
Ten team, PPR, Keeper League. I'm keeping A-chan in the ninth. I'm picking eighth overall.
Which two players would you start your team with between Nico, A.J. Brown, neighbors, London, Brian Thomas Jr., McCaffrey, Henry, Genty.
Wow. The two highest ranked for me would be Nico and McCaffrey. And you're starting with A. Chan, and that's it?
Yeah. If there's, you know, obviously, if you can keep player for another year, you definitely want to go Genty over McCaffrey.
but yeah
Nico I guess
McCaffrey and Nico for me
they're both top six
ranked overall players for me
so
yeah unless there's
keeper implications
it would be
McCaffrey
Nico
neighbors
Genty
if there's
keepers
it would be
gentie neighbors
Nico
McCaffrey
almost reverse
and question
from TD
Hodge
I plan on
taking a quarterback
late in my
upcoming draft, which late-round quarterback can still win me a championship?
Drake May is definitely the first one that comes to mind.
Yep.
Drake May, Jordan Love, Trevor.
Jay-J. McCarthy is an interesting one for just going for pure upside.
Yep, Dan, you were talking about CJ Stroud, so if you believe in him.
I like Stroud. I think Stroud's more of a small win, though.
If he's looking for, like, the breakout when you're league, I'd be more, yeah,
that's how I feel about Jordan Love, too.
I don't put him in a-small win. Yeah.
Yeah. I think you've got to get a guy who's going to be on an offense that's going to really
throw the ball a lot or he's going to really run the ball a lot.
Caleb Williams?
I'm not, I don't, I don't think so.
Possible, though.
I think the nice thing about it, though, is you try to get two of these guys.
I got three minutes left for YouTube.
YouTube, let's go.
Oh, interesting.
Look at this.
FFT Open.
I don't know which league this guy's in RB, but he said Bauer's Kittle and McBride all went
in round two ahead of Josh Jacobs.
Yeah.
And that's two running, two receiver leagues with one flex.
That's pretty interesting.
Mine's done, by the way.
Oh, yours is done?
And so we're all in.
Cool, man.
Bowers, McBride, and Akila went in round three.
Question from Jonah.
I have Tyreek in a Keeper League.
You can keep up to five players
at the cost of your first five picks.
I can keep Tyreek for a fifth.
Would you drop him and grab Abuca or Golden instead?
14-team half-PPR.
So if you are trying to win now,
I would keep Tyreek.
If you have the ability to drop him
and keep a buca for next year,
I would drop Tyreek and take a buca
and factor in the keeper this year.
Yeah.
All right.
Question from Tony the Shrimp.
If you already have Sutton on your roster,
Tony the Shrimp, not great cereal, by the way.
What's that?
Tony the Tiger.
That is your worst joke ever.
Is that a joke?
Yeah.
What happened there?
You didn't even get it.
You never even had frosted flakes.
I've had every single human being in the history of the world has had frosts.
What's in your fridge right now?
I'll see what's in your fridge.
We're not doing that.
What's in the fridge thing again?
It's better, though.
I have some other stuff.
I have some real food this time.
I was too embarrassed from the last one.
We're not doing that ever again, though.
If you already had Sutton on your roster, would you hesitate to draft RJ Harrow?
I can't believe that's zero and zero.
Why?
It looks like a zero back.
Does it not?
Well, not you said it.
Not really.
It looks like a starfish.
All right.
I'll figure that.
out for the next show okay if you already have if you already have satin on your roster i didn't have
time to fix my magnet because i was too busy listening to adam for five minutes ran would you
hesitate to draft r j harvey over someone in a similar range like tony pollard uh i personally would
not i would take harvey yeah sorry dan i had you muted you're back now wait you keep hitting it
i keep hitting no i'm not hitting anything you have muted me i should
to mute you during your Tarantino rant.
That was off the air.
Still happened.
Keep neighbors in the sixth or JSN in the 10th?
Neighbors in the 6th.
The value is better for JSN, but I would keep neighbors.
Good joke, Adam.
Thank you.
It was a good joke.
It would just be nice and that was a terrible joke.
Adam, we could give you your thoughts.
I never realized that bad guy,
R.I, R.R.I.
is Dave's in the Snung.
Yeah, it's so funny.
Lou says, can you talk me off the ledge drafting Jaden Daniels
and him not being C.J.
Stroud 2.0.
His rushing will
run.
He'll keep him
at a much higher floor.
Right.
Yeah.
No, I mean,
it's a valid question
because Anthony Richardson
was horrible too,
but Daniel's,
yeah, I don't know.
He just feels different.
CJ Stroud had a great rookie year.
That was really surprising.
Not that he was a bus necessarily,
but that he was that bad.
Really fell apart.
Not that he was a bus.
He was a huge bust.
He was a top.
No, it wasn't surprising that he was a bus
because he doesn't run that much.
I liked him.
But to the degree of which he was a bust, I think, was stunning to me.
Can you do me a favor?
The question from R.B., there, about Zekees.
We don't talk about this now, but I think it's worth talking about going into the weekend.
Some of these veteran guys that are going to be problems for potential players,
like Chris Rodriguez and Zakias and some of these guys that we don't talk enough about.
Yeah.
Right.
Chris Rodriguez going to have a role.
I'm sure we'll talk about that on the Friday show,
that's for me yeah yeah all right we gotta go um we got to go thank you all for watching and listening
and i appreciate all your comments and your questions being a part of the show is your roommate a
giant's fan he is not so wait wait wait wait wait this is a shared refrigerator right yes did you
just bully him and say i'm putting all the magnets up or did you give it on sconson you've got all
the magnets on the fridge don't you understand that last one
week everyone was giving me crap on the show no magnets on the fridge so i had to fast order
some magnets to the house okay i'm picking the things i'm interested in okay that he can put up
whatever he wants in his own dime if he cares he clearly doesn't care about what's going on
on his refrigerator no one i didn't care either until i got bullied into it what team does he
root for i uh i weren't i don't even know what he roots for
We'll talk to you all sometime soon on fantasy football today.
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