Fantasy Football Today - I Wouldn't Be Surprised If ... (05/20 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: May 20, 2024Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts Jamey and Dan give us some bold yet plausibl...e Fantasy scenarios. For example: Anthony Richardson as QB1 (2:15) and De'Von Achane as a Top 5 RB (3:45). We start with those and give you your news and notes (11:30) ... Jamey wouldn't be surprised if Kyle Pitts was TE1 (15:00) and he also gives us a spicy Fantasy take on Keon Coleman (18:05) and Gus Edwards (25:30) ... Dan wouldn't be surprised if Rome Odunze is the best Bears wide receiver (29:25) and if Derrick Henry (34:30) leads the NFL in rushing touchdowns. But, could Henry be a bust? Also, Dan talks about Cooper Kupp (40:00) and Dalton Kincaid (44:15), plus we get "I wouldn't be surprised if" scenarios from our audience (48:15) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hey, happy Monday to everybody out there, and welcome to Fantasy Football Today.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of our best shows
of the year. Sure, why not?
Well, we'll give you some scenarios that maybe they'll come
true. It's almost like a bold prediction type
of show, but I wouldn't be surprised if,
and we got some great, great answers
from the audience as well on
Twitter, on Twix, so we'll
read those. I'm Adam Azer. Good morning,
Jamie Eisenberg. Good
morning, Adam Azer. How was your weekend?
It was good. How about you?
It was great. Coaching T-Ball.
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Here's a sight for sore eyes. Dan
Schneier is here.
How you doing? I'd like
to hear that you're coaching T-Ball these days.
You're going to get into the coach dad life.
I'm curious to see where that goes.
Are you going to end up being the loud coach that yells
and motivates the kids that way?
Are you going to be the pushover coach where everybody gets whatever they want,
the team doesn't win a lot of games, but everyone gets ice cream at it?
Adam's going to be the coach that promises every kid
that they will play shortstop.
That's what I was thinking.
No.
No, you'll play shortstop next inning. No, you will play shortstop. That's what I was thinking. No. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, you'll play shortstop next inning, next inning.
No, no, no, you'll play shortstop next inning.
Well, the kids don't really play a position, as Jamie knows.
The ball gets hit, and they all run to it, and they run each other over.
That's bad coaching by you.
Yeah, I agree.
I completely agree.
Anyway, I said Dan was a sight for sore eyes.
I actually read that wrong.
It was a fright for your eyes.
I'm sorry about that.
So let's get started here.
I wouldn't be surprised if...
Oh, Dan's microphone broke.
All right, let me mute him while he fixes that.
There we go.
Thank you, Schaefer.
All right, Jamie, you can start.
Just give me one here.
You guys each have four or five.
I wouldn't be surprised if...
Go ahead.
I wouldn't be surprised if Adam cried
after the Knicks lost to the Pacers.
No, I didn't. No, I wouldn't have been surprised either, but I didn't cry.
But anyway, what do you have that I won't hate you for?
I wouldn't be surprised if Anthony Richardson is the number one quarterback in fantasy football.
Okay, yeah.
You want to know why?
I would, yeah.
Two things.
One, obviously he's very good with the potential of what he can do
with his legs and I think he'll be uh glad Dan's microphone's fixed um with what he has the
potential to do as a passer with the addition of uh Adonai Mitchell um but think about it when was
the big year for Patrick Holmes uh year two when was the big year for Patrick Holmes? Year two. When was the big year for Lamar Jackson?
Year two.
This is going to be the third guy that does it.
Okay.
For Jalen Hurts, it was year three, right?
But I think so.
But for, yeah, I mean, for Richardson, it was basically year one.
He scores 23 points in week one and six points per pass in touchdown leagues,
and he leaves at the one yard line.
The next week he scores 17.7 points in a little bit more than a quarter.
Then he plays it finally plays every snap of a game and scores 33.6 points
against the Rams.
Then he wasn't great the following game,
but he only played 33% of the snaps.
Dan,
you good?
I'm good.
All right.
Give me your favorite.
I wouldn't be surprised if.
Dan flexed at his microphone
and it broke.
I wouldn't be surprised if
I mispronounced
Devon Achan's name.
No, I would be surprised.
I would be surprised,
but I wouldn't be surprised
if Devon Achan finishes
as a top five running back
this season in fantasy points scored.
And I think when it comes to HN,
he's been a really polarizing player in our mock draft so far.
We've done a bunch that Jamie's done a great job organizing with a lot of
good industry experts.
And I love looking at where he comes.
What do you with such a brown nose?
I mean,
come on,
Jamie does such a great job.
I just said,
he's done a great job organizing a lot of mock drafts,
a lot of good experts so far.
Okay.
Adam,
you do a great job organizing. And you do a great job organizing a lot of mock drafts, a lot of good experts so far. Okay. Adam, you do a great job organizing them.
I like it.
And you do a great job getting the show together.
Okay, Adam, do you want a compliment as well?
Thank you, Dan.
I can give them to you too.
Okay?
All right.
Anyway, we've done a lot of fun mock drafts so far.
I'm sorry to, you know,
praise the person who did a good job organizing them.
I guess, you know,
they magically got put together and operated.
And there's a lot of good recaps.
And I always look for if there's anything about HM,
because I feel like he's one of the more polarizing players in the pre-draft process.
And I'm on the higher end of this because I think too much has been baked into the downside
of what could happen when it comes to HM, when the upside is still phenomenal.
He's a player who fit the system perfectly.
I said it before they drafted him.
I said it after they drafted him.
His running style is perfect for an outside zone blocking scheme.
We saw that last season.
But what really stands out to me is room for growth is just the idea that he could potentially take over more of the red zone role last year from Raheem Mostert.
And we saw that early in the season, early in his breakout part before he got injured himself.
So a healthier HN who takes over a little bit more of the red zone role with more speed on the offense. After adding Odell Beckham jr.
And after adding Malik,
I believe Malik Washington,
who they drafted.
Do I really like that fit there?
If he gets some time in the slot with potential,
we'll see if this happens growth on the offensive line,
better health on the offensive line.
There's an opportunity here for him to score 10 plus touchdowns with a lot of
yards and maybe more of a role in the passing game.
I think that will get him into the top five at the running back position,
especially when you consider all the attrition at the position on a year to year basis.
So if he can be one of the ones who stays healthy in this high scoring offense
with more of a role, I'm very excited about year two for him.
I mean, it's still a young running back entering year two.
That should be a time for a potential breakout.
I know you like Derek Henry a lot. I know you like Derrick Henry a lot.
Who do you draft first, Henry or HN?
I'm still going to go Henry over HN because I'm a huge fan of Henry.
So it's part of another one of my wouldn't be surprised ifs.
Okay.
I am trying.
All right.
So let's see me.
I'm looking for our most recent mock draft that I keep referencing.
I'm pretty sure HN was around four pick.
He's probably around about 40th overall.
Is it weird if I look at another website's mock draft and see where HN
went just to give context?
No,
that's your job.
Okay,
good.
So I'm looking at an ESPN mock draft and he went 33rd overall.
I mean,
we only have 10 plus mock drafts to choose from for ours,
but yeah,
go ahead.
Not since,
not since the mock,
not since the NFL draft that we don't have that many.
I'll look at a different one.
I'll look at the PPR one because I keep referencing the half PPR one. So in our, in our PPR, that was the first draft, though. We don't have that many. We have a good amount. I'll look at a different one. I'll look at the PPR one, because I keep referencing the half PPR one.
So in our PPR draft.
That was the first one we did.
Yeah.
In our PPR draft, after the NFL draft, Devon A. Chan went, let's see,
the second pick of round four.
So 38th overall, 33rd in the ESPN one that I mentioned,
which I believe is PPR.
So the thing that's, as Dan mentioned, polarizing,
does he do this if Raheem Mostert stays healthy?
That's the thing I have a hard time grasping.
And then what does Jalen Wright do to impact both those guys?
And I think those are fair concerns.
Clearly,
if you just talk talent,
I think he's the most talented of the three,
but does he get the opportunity that he needs?
And,
and you referenced the touchdowns,
Dan,
and I don't know if that happens,
if most are stays healthy based on what most are did a year ago when he led
the NFL and rushing touchdowns,
you know?
So does he,
does he significantly regress if he stays,
you know, at a hundred percent, or significantly regress if he stays, you know,
at a hundred percent or does it take a most injury for HN to get those chances? And so I don't know
what you're, what you're basing it on. Um, and both could be accurate. It could be, he's just
better and they decided to give him more work or it could be, yes, I'm counting on a 32 year old
running back to break down. Who's got a history, you know, he's been healthy in Miami for the most
part, but does have an injury history that he does miss some time. So, um, I've kind of, you know he's been healthy in miami for the most part but does have an injury history that he does miss some time so um i've kind of you know i think most people have you know gone
from hn as a potential top 10 pick to a top 10 running back top two round pick top 24 pick
to um dropped him close to 20 now moved to my thing at 17 um it's it's a it it's a tough player to figure because just
based on talent he's amazing yeah i look before the show at your all your guys's rankings you
heathen and and dave and no no one had him inside the top 15 i think you're right you had him at 17
and i think the point is like this is not bold prediction show it's not us saying this will
happen it's you wouldn't be surprised that which means there's that ceiling to it like he has that opportunity that a bit that possibility but like you said
there is a good enough downside case to make for it to be a risky pick if you're going to go
higher than this but i think in that round four range you don't lose your opportunity cost is not
too great for it for me at least okay got a comment here from bad guy classic dan i don't
think i've ever had a mic screw up until today, actually.
But there is.
I wouldn't be surprised if Dan does something to screw up on the first five minutes would be would be a fair.
I wouldn't be surprised if.
Yeah.
And by the way, when you heard Dan saying none of you had a Chan and in your top 15 and they get him 17.
So I'm not just that running back, not overall, just in case that got a little confusing.
We have a lot.
I've never noticed that there was a closet door a door next to your toilet he moved
his camera he moved the camera a little bit a little bit of a different view to that angle
yeah uh there's a door there so that's definitely a toilet no not many people have the the toilet
in the separate in the separate room they like with the door i have it now in this new house i
love it oh it's the best.
It's incredible, yeah.
Oh, like a specific room
just for the toilet.
That's great.
I wouldn't even call it a room.
I would just call it a door.
Yeah, yeah.
Separating it from the rest
of the bathroom.
Well, you would call it a studio.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, anyway,
we have a lot of great podcasts.
Check them out.
CBSSports.com
slash podcast.
I'm looking at the page right now
with the first pick.
They got post-draft analysis there. Fantasy Baseball today.com slash podcast. I'm looking at the page right now with the first pick. They got post-draft analysis there.
Fantasy Baseball Today, the first cut, Beyond the Arc.
I don't think I'm going to be listening to that one anymore.
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I wouldn't be surprised if, and great ones from the audience as well.
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Tank Dell recovering nicely from the gunshot wound.
He's already running routes.
He went 48th overall to Dan Schneier in our PPR mock draft.
And for ESPN's draft, he went 60th overall.
And last week in the half PPR draft,
or I guess two weeks ago in the half PPR draft, he went kind of, I think, in between those two, Tank Dell.
A couple quarterbacks looking for new contracts,
Tua Tungabailoa, he might miss some of off-season,
he has missed the off-season workouts, the voluntary ones.
He might miss the OTAs coming up.
I think they start today, actually.
We think it's for contract reasons, don't know for sure.
Probably for contract reasons.
Trevor Lawrence, close to getting a big contract extension,
according to ESPN.
TJ Hawkinson said he does not have a timeline
for his return from a torn ACL.
Najee Harris has lost weight, Jamie.
He wants to get a little slimmer.
How do you feel about that?
I love it compared to the opposite.
You know, when running backs bulk up,
it's never a good sign.
And so, you know, the fact that he's slimmed down a little bit, you know, hopefully that, that helps maybe with the
foot concern that he's had the last couple of years, you know, dealing with that foot injury.
Um, I mean, look, he's, he's got a great opportunity here. You know, I know Jalen Warren
is clearly one of the better backups in the NFL and we'll definitely take some work away from him,
but what Mike Tomlin has said, what they've done with him, you know, and, and unfortunately it's
been some late season finishes as opposed to just being consistent throughout the season, but he's been a,
a, a fairly consistent running back the last two years. I know the first year was the big year,
you know, when he was really involved in the passing game with Roethlisberger, but
I think with Arthur Smith there, he'll get an opportunity to be the lead rusher and get a lot
of rushing opportunities. And I think he's a good number two running back, not somebody you have to
reach for, but somebody in that round five, six range that you can get some pretty good value out of.
Actually, I do have a,
I wouldn't be surprised if,
from Andrew Hill on Twitter,
I wouldn't be surprised if Najee Harris
outscores Saquon Barkley in points per game.
That would surprise me.
I would be surprised, yeah.
I would be very surprised.
Without an injury, I'd be surprised.
Yeah.
And final news item for me is
that the Chiefs will be the first team
in 97 years
to play on
six different days of the week.
Wow.
Okay. They will not play on
Tuesday. That's not that
mind-blowing of a stat when you consider that
the NFL hasn't really had Friday games until recently. Or Wednesday. Or Wednesday come like that. That's not that mind blowing of a stat. When you consider that, like the NFL hasn't really had Friday games until recently or Wednesday or
Wednesday games.
Yeah.
Wednesday is shock.
No,
Wednesday is the game.
He's not there.
They're playing Christmas day.
I think,
right.
I know they're playing Christmas day.
Wednesday,
Wednesday.
Okay.
I guess they're also playing a Friday at some point.
Black Friday.
Yeah.
They're playing a Friday,
but they're playing black Friday and they're playing on Christmas.
There are no teams playing on Tuesday this year. Yeah. I'm not a fan of that they're playing black Friday and they're playing on Christmas. There are no teams playing on Tuesday this year.
Yeah.
I'm not a fan of that stat.
I'm just saying.
Not yet,
Adam.
There might be a Monday night.
Right.
Exactly.
As of now,
we don't have a Tuesday game this year.
That'd be awesome.
Pretty terrible stat.
Are you kidding me?
First time in 97 years.
And by the way,
you'd be nobody plays on Fridays and Wednesdays.
So it's like,
there's been 95 years of no one playing on those days.
Do you remember?
I don't know. You don't remember. I think it's actually a chiefs game. I no one playing on those days. Do you remember? I don't know.
You don't remember.
I think it's actually a Chiefs game.
I feel like it was a Chiefs Dolphins game that got played on a Friday night because of a hurricane.
Remember that, Jamie?
Got moved from like a Monday night.
I don't remember what day of the week it was.
I do recall the game being moved from a hurricane.
I'm almost positive it was a Friday night.
All right.
You live alone, right?
You don't have a roommate or anything?
What'd you say?
You live alone, right? You don't have a roommate? anything? What'd you say? You live alone, right?
You don't have a roommate?
No, I live with a few friends.
Oh, I really hope somebody bangs on the door.
Stop dropping your mic in there.
I wouldn't be surprised if, we'll go to Jamie's list.
Jamie wouldn't be surprised if Anthony Richardson is the number one fantasy quarterback.
We talked about that.
But he also wouldn't be surprised if Kyle Pitts is the number one fantasy tight end, Jamie. I mean, we've seen a thousand yard season from him.
That doesn't happen very often for a lot of tight ends. And so if he can get back to that level of
production and obviously score more touchdowns, he had one touchdown in his rookie campaign when
he had over a thousand yards. Can he get to eight, nine, 10? I mean, you know, Kirk Cousins is going
to change this offense and Zach Robinson as the play caller will change this offense.
And so I know Drake London is the one that should benefit the most.
But I think Kyle Pitts, as we've talked about a lot, should benefit as well.
And Dan's going to bring up one about Dalton Kincaid.
This was another guy I was going to put in this category also as someone who can surprise and be the number one tight end. But Pitts is clearly, you know, to use the phrase Dan brought up about Devon Aitken,
you know, he's polarizing.
People have been burned by him and frustrated by him and understandably so.
But you look at knee injury two years ago in his sophomore season, you know, fighting
through that last year, terrible quarterback play the last two years, bad play caller for
what I think his skill set is.
And now they'll use him as, I think, a traditional tight end more so than just a quote-unquote receiver.
And I don't know why I said it like that.
But in any event, Pitts, I think, has the potential to be a superstar, as we know.
You were saying use him more as a tight end instead of out wide, basically.
Yep. him more as a tight end instead of out wide basically yep yes he has been number one or
number two in among tight sorry among tight ends who have had 50 or more targets which they're
usually about 25 to 30 he has been number one or number two in percentage of snaps lined up out
wide and in two of the three seasons it's been been not even close to the guys behind him.
So, yeah, I mean, take advantage of him a little bit more.
Get him lined up on linebackers, right?
He also has been number one in ADOT among tight ends all three seasons.
I'd love to see.
I do like the fact that he goes downfield,
but I'd love to see more targets and more easy catches because one of the things I noticed about his 17-game pace for targets,
110 as a rookie rookie played 17 games.
Is it a hundred as a sophomore?
It was 90 last year.
That's just not enough targets.
I mean,
we need like,
we need more than a hundred and a hundred to 110 targets for Kyle pits.
So things have to change.
Obviously,
uh,
Dan,
what do you think?
Would you be surprised if Kyle pits was the number one tight end in
fantasy?
No, I'm on the same side as Jamie is this. i would not be surprised at all we've already seen he got to work with uh kirk cousins already this offseason and i love the quote he had
he worked with cousins and he said this because the guy was they spent a lot of time watching
tape already together and he's like this is a guy who's very deliberate as a quarterback and i've
never had this before but it's good to have with a veteran he tells you where he wants to be within
each route combination at each time and that's just how it's going to be.
Like there's going to be different areas of the field that pits is going to get the football in
that. He just simply hasn't gotten it before working with the quarterbacks. He has Mariota,
um, who really was tough to watch on film two years ago when I, when I broke that down.
And then last year with the Ritter. All right. Next up, Jamie would not be surprised if Keon Coleman is the best rookie wide receiver.
Go ahead.
I mean, he has to leap over some pretty big time talents.
The best one being Martin Harrison Jr.
Wow, that would be...
Man, I thought if you had just gone,
I wouldn't be surprised if you were the second best wide receiver.
I think that would have been kind of bold enough.
But this is a big,
big ad.
Well,
I mean,
you look at opportunity and who he's playing with and that's what you're
hoping is that he comes into Buffalo and becomes what Stefan digs was.
I mean,
that's a huge ask,
but clearly,
you know,
you're looking at an opportunity to be an alpha with an alpha quarterback
and he's got it.
And so,
you know,
I thought maybe Brian Thomas would be good for this,
but you know,
he's got to get past Kirk and Ingram and obviously Coleman's got to get past, you know, Kincaid, but he's got it. And so, you know, I thought maybe Brian Thomas would be good for this, but, you know, he's got to get past Kirk and Ingram and obviously Coleman's got to get past, you know,
Kincaid, but he's not proven. And so if Coleman comes in and can be that type of guy where it's
mostly going to be touchdowns, I think he'll be a 900 plus yard receiver. I think he'll have the
chance for, you know, 65, 75 catches, but if he can be an eight touchdown guy, a 10 touchdown guy,
you know, and look, I know Marvin Harrison has the, the perfect opportunity as well.
Obviously Malik neighbors has a great opportunity,
but there's quarterback concerns. And, and, and, and let's face it, you know,
Kyler Murray hasn't exactly had the best track record of supporting a number
one receiver consistently. He's done it at times,
but he hasn't done it consistently.
So if Coleman can be legit
with his quarterback and that opportunity there wouldn't, wouldn't shock me.
Yeah. Dan, I'm curious. I don't know if I've ever heard your thoughts on, on Keon Coleman,
another polar polarizing prospect. You know, you're talking about HN as a polarizing fantasy
option, but Coleman just makes it in round one and slowest 40 fastest gauntlet among the receivers.
I thought absolutely terrible with contested catches.
I don't know how you felt about that.
What do you think of Coleman?
Yeah, just outside round one, but they took him.
Oh, sorry.
That's right.
See, it's still fine, though.
It's a lot.
It's major capital.
You nailed it.
I think when it comes to Keon Coleman, he's not the fastest 40 time guy, but he was the fastest in the gauntlet drill and you could see that on film i
think the area of the field that he's going to win in is over the intermediate middle of the field
on those in breaking routes and the 10 to 15 yard range and that's kind of the area of the field
where josh allen thrives at the most and it's why we've seen him have some successful players at the
past like gabe davis when he was healthy for a short period of time and obviously Stefan Diggs. I think the fit is great. My issue with Coleman is what
may, and what makes him so polarizing is we've seen these types of prospects, Nikhil Harry,
these types of guys who you just don't know. It's impossible to predict if they're going to be able
to separate at the NFL level. Cause you, the corners they face on a weekly basis, even if
they were playing in like the sec, none of them, most of them are going to be practice squad at
best. And so you're facing the best, the best, best of the best 64 outside corners.
And sometimes, you know, you get pressed man and there's just no separation there.
And that's not something that Josh on had to deal with, with digs, but at times with Gabe Davis,
that was an issue creating separation on the outside. So I I'm not willing to go all in or
anything on him, but for a show like this, where I wouldn't be surprised if, yeah, I wouldn't be
surprised at all.
If he just beats it,
he's able to beat man press coverage on the outside.
And then in that scenario,
all the other things he does well on the football field shine.
And I will say this about Coleman.
I don't want to label him as like another one of these,
like JJ,
what is his name?
I think a white side type guys.
Cause like none of those types of guys that came before Coleman were,
were returning punts for their college team.
He was returning punts for Florida State.
And when you watch some of those punt returns, if you're breaking down his tape, you see that he's pretty elusive in the open field.
And that's not something I think you could say about some of those guys who busted in the past with this type of wide receiver prototype, I should say.
Follow up.
So you said, you know, you don't know if he'll be able to separate.
Is there something specifically about him?
Did he not separate that well in college? Because you don't have those concerns'll be able to separate is there something specifically about him did he not separate that well in college because you don't have those concerns about like harrison
or neighbors right you don't have those concerns about harrison because harrison is such a diverse
release package off the line of scrimmage it was just looked like a veteran um that's not something
i saw with coleman so that's an issue just having that different release package when it comes to
neighbors he actually only had one release package off the line of scrimmage the speed release and
with the jab step but that's fine because he's so elusive and quick that he can create separation that way.
Coleman may not have that trump card.
So, yeah, it was an issue for him at Florida State already.
Gotcha.
And look, I mean, so in the ESPN draft, Coleman went 51st.
In our PPR draft, he went 94th.
Wow.
And you know what, Jamie?
I decided, I was like, I don't know if I'm going to do any of these.
I wouldn't be surprised if I decided not to do any but the one that I was thinking of was
I wouldn't be surprised if Keon Coleman has a huge year or Josh Allen is a bust oh I just wonder
can Josh Allen I know he was good last year at the end because he had so many rushing touchdowns
you know the second half of the year when Stefan Diggs basically disappeared.
But I'm wondering if Josh Allen can can be a top three quarterback without some one of
these receivers stepping up and having a thousand yard season or something like that.
I don't know how you feel about that.
It's a huge concern.
I mean, and again, it's hard to you know, we really don't have a good basis of comparison because, you know, to judge Josh Allen's first couple of years before Stefan Diggs, he was clearly coming into his own, learning how to be an NFL quarterback, you know, relying on his athleticism.
But he wasn't this elite level fantasy quarterback.
He was just good.
And then he became elite when he got Stefan Diggs.
And so what you saw last year was the passing numbers were a little scary at the
end of the season, but the rushing production was exceptional. I mean, 15 rushing touchdowns
was fantastic, but if he's going to do that again, you know, go from the seven, eight touchdown range,
which is kind of where he lived to 15 again, he'll be fine because I think this receiving
core will support him enough. But if that goes away and it's seven rushing touchdowns and 25 passing
touchdowns, you know, that that's a problem, you know, and, and I think we have still a top 12
quarterback by far because he'll run for enough yards and those, those rushing scores will be
fine. But to draft him as a top four guy, which I think is, is pretty safe. You know, I don't think
he's going to escape the top four in anybody's rankings. Uh, you need him to be that level of, of, of performing. You know, we don't want to's going to escape the top four in anybody's rankings. You need him to be that level of, of, of performer.
You know, we don't want to have a situation like last year where everybody drafted Mahomes
and Justin Herbert and, and, you know, whether injury or just poor performance, they flopped,
you know, you don't want to have that again.
Okay.
But on the same time, like with one quick point on that, I think is interesting with
the same time with those two that flop last year, you mentioned Mahomes and Herbert, none
of them really had that rushing floor, but a player like Jalen Hurts who had a really down season for him
was still able to be a fantasy contributor,
not a bust from that sense like those guys were Herbert Mahomes
because of that rushing floor.
So I don't think that just goes away for Josh Allen.
No, he was. Yeah, go ahead.
And I think part of it also is, you know, to go back to his early years,
you know, Dalton Kincaid's a first-round talent.
Keon Coleman is basically a first-round talent.
Khalil Shakir has been a very reliable option, you know, when he's played. And we saw at the end of early years, you know, Dalton Kincaid's a first round talent. Keon Coleman is basically a first round talent. Khalil Shakir has been a very reliable option,
you know,
when he's played.
And we saw at the end of last season,
you know,
so Curtis Samuel is coming from coming back to a system that he's had
success with.
James Cook's a very good pass catcher.
So from a weapon standpoint,
he has a very solid group.
It just doesn't feel right now that he has an alpha and there's
opportunities,
I think for Kincaid,
for Coleman,
for,
you know, somebody to step up and be an alpha. those two guys would be my choices if i had to pick
i've been also i said jalen hurts went from 27.9 points per game in 2022 to 23.7 last year yes he
did end up having a very good season that's because like none of the quarterbacks had standout seasons
but he lost four points oh no i know he took a step back it just wasn't a bust like that like
you got from herbert yes it It would. No, correct.
Correct. Correct. Yeah. All right. Jamie
would not be surprised if Gus Edwards
leads the NFL in
rushing touchdowns. He had
13 of them last year. You wouldn't be surprised if he
led the NFL in rushing touchdowns.
Well, I mean, you know, going to the team that he's
going, that he is on now is,
you know, the prime example of why this could
work, you know, with his offense coordinator, who know clearly got a history of wanting to run the ball he's
familiar with you know greg roman's familiar with you guys edwards jk dobbins is coming off a
significant injury who knows when he'll be ready you know kamani vidal is you know somebody that
i think a lot of people like as a potential sleeper but who knows if this will lend itself to
you know him taking over the lead role let alone the the goal line role and you know if this will lend itself to, you know, him taking over the lead role, let alone the goal line
role. And, you know, if this is going to be the type of offense that Jim Harbaugh wants to run,
Gus Edwards is the guy that they're going to use. And so 13 rushing touchdowns last year,
still in a shared role with more of a mobile quarterback. And I know you'll say that Lamar
Jackson doesn't do a lot of rushing touchdowns. I get it, but there's an opportunity here for him
to be 15 plus touchdowns. I don't know if he's going to get to 18 or 20. And Dan's guy is certainly a much more of a likely candidate
to do this than Derrick Henry to lead the NFL in rushing touchdowns. But we saw last year,
you know, Raheem Mostert with 18. I think Gus Edwards can get to 15. It's not a stretch. Again,
he had 13 last year, like you said. So if he stays healthy, if he stays in the lead role,
you know, he's going to be a scoring machine. And it's just a matter of what else we'll do around that and there's a lot to like about him
especially at his cost gus edwards had 15 carries from the three yard line or closer last year he
scored on 11 of them he was made for the goal line i think it's an interesting backfield uh jamie
you know just to finish on that we'll take'll take a break and we'll get to dance.
I wouldn't be surprised ifs.
But you've got a 29-year-old running back coming off his worst season in Gus Edwards.
You've got Dobbins who's coming off a torn Achilles.
And then you've got Vidal who's a rookie.
It wasn't really drafted with a high capital.
Man, I could see this backfield going in so many different directions. I could also see a training camp addition, a trade at some point.
I mean, they want to run the ball, you know, so, you know, the, the Khalil Herbert's, the
Damian Pierce's, you know, the guys that are, you know, sort of falling out of favor on
their running back rotations.
If that in fact does happen, you know, those guys could be available for next to nothing,
and it would be smart investments by a team like them,
by a team like Dallas,
to go and kick the tires on those teams
and see if they're available.
All right.
Finally, let's look at where Gus Edwards went.
He went round nine in our PPR draft,
so around 100th overall,
and he went 94th overall in ESPN's 10-team mock draft.
All right, let's take a break.
Dan's got a lot more to tell us.
A lot of his I wouldn't be surprised ifs.
We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today.
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Okay, Dan said he wouldn't be surprised
if Devon Achan finishes as a top five
running back. He also would not be surprised
if Rome Odunze
leads the
Bears wide receivers in fantasy
points scored. Boom!
Yeah, so this one's a bold one
obviously with DJ Moore in the mix
and Keenan Allen, but I look at the system they're going to
be inheriting there with Shane Waldron, and I just
think about what I saw on film from
Waldron, and what I saw on film from
Waldron was not making me very
excited about Keenan Allen and the role in the slot there. But more importantly, what I saw from him is the
ability to win on the outside, to rely on those outside wide receivers. And that's what Romo
is going to be in year one. He projects as an immediate fit. I think as the X they're going to
move DJ more over, but even if he plays the flanker role, it's really just going to be a
comp. It's going to come down to what we've seen in the past a lot with these quarterbacks,
these young quarterbacks, who they rely on early and who they build that rapport
with early plays a big role in the fantasy success of that receiver core. And I think with the rookie
mini camp, starting with Romo Donze and Caleb Williams, they could build that report early.
We've already heard Caleb talk about Rome. He obviously played in the same conference,
saw what he was able to do. And I just think about my evaluation of Rome. He was my third
receiver in this class, but he was in a tier of receivers of, from what I've evaluated since I
started doing this, he would have been the first receiver picked in seven of the last 10 draft
classes that I've studied. And I stand by that. I think he's got everything to his game. He's
to me, a bigger version of Chris Olave. That's better at the catch point. And that 75% contested
catch rate that he had last year was not only otherworldly and insane to look at, it's something that Caleb Williams is going to be able
to take advantage of when he gets a ton of outside one-on-one opportunities. He's going to get even
more than he got at Washington, in my opinion, with Keenan Allen in the middle of the field and
with DJ Moore, which teams are going to definitely start by focusing on more the proven NFL talent.
So if the coverage is rolled that way and he's getting one-on-ones both in the red zone
on third down on the outside, I've seen him win on the vertical plane with his ability
to contort his body and make catches away from his frame.
I think there's a good chance he leads this team in touchdowns at the receiver position,
which then will give him a good opportunity to lead them in fantasy points.
Jamie, how surprised would you be if Odunze leads all Bears wide receivers in fantasy
points?
I'd be a little surprised if everybody's healthy, but I don't necessarily think it's bad to think he's going to be better than Keenan Allen
just because Allen's going to, I don't want to say such an awful situation for him,
but he's going to a situation where we know that he's needed targets.
He's not going to get the same level of targets.
He's not going to be a guy that scores a lot of touchdowns.
He's going to an environment, you've heard me say this before, that's certainly outside the realm of where he played before.
He played college and the NFL so
far in the state of California. And so that I think will matter, especially when the weather
gets colder for him. Uh, and he's going to a crowd of receiving core, you know, it's not just
the three receivers. You know, you can't forget about Cole commit as well. Who's a, you know,
an established tight end. That's going to make plays in this offense. The thing that I struggle
with and Dan mentioned his name is Shane Waldron's coming from Seattle, where we just had a high-profile rookie join a crowded receiving core and did not do the things that we were hoping he was going to do, which was going to push one of the two guys aside.
We all thought, okay, here's JSN pushing Tyler Lockett to the side.
Lo and behold, who led the team in targets again?
Tyler Lockett.
And so does Odunze come in and establish himself?
And Dan makes a great point.
The quick rapport that hopefully he'll establish
with Caleb Williams should matter.
But it's not like Caleb Williams is not going to immediately start
to develop a rapport with DJ Moore and Keenan Allen,
especially if he shakes his hand like he didn't at the pro day
when Keenan Allen was there.
But in any event, there's a lot of guys here that have to be fed.
And does Odunze get enough of those targets, enough of those opportunities?
So I love the take because this is what we're talking about here.
And I'm hopeful because I think a lot of people are going to get Odunze last
of the three receivers, and the value will be fantastic.
Yes, the CBS draft PPR, DJ Moore went 33rd.
Keenan Allen, 72nd.
Odunze, 103rd.
ESPN, pretty similar.
Moore went 47th, though.
Moore went 14 picks after he went in our draft.
Keenan Allen, 68th compared to 72nd in the CBS draft.
And Romo Odunze went two picks later than he did in the CBS draft,
105th overall.
All right, so if I said to you, DJ Moore, 40th overall,
Keenan Allen, 70th, Roma Dunzey, 105th,
and you can only have one, which one are you taking?
For me, it's definitely Rome.
I think so, yeah, because Moore scares me.
I mean, look, he had an ideal situation last year.
There was nobody else there.
And so now you're dealing with, you know, two talented receivers.
You know, and we can sit here and say Keenan Allen is going to be 33,
all these things, you know, falling apart, whatever.
He's still a quality receiver that gets open, you know,
and so it wouldn't surprise me if he's more relevant than we think also.
You know, so give me the guy that goes last.
Yeah, Allen's injury history is also part of this take for me.
I'm baking it in because I assume – I expect him to miss some games this season.
He hasn't almost all of his seasons,
and he's a much older receiver now playing in the Chicago cold,
and that would give, I think, Roman opportunity for more targets.
He was, Keenan Allen, though, number one in ESPN analytics
in their receiver thing.
Yeah, number one in getting open.
Yeah, no, he's still a phenomenal player.
I'm definitely not taking that away from him.
All right, Dan says he would not be surprised
if Derrick Henry leads the NFL in rushing touchdowns.
And I'm just going to say, like I said,
I didn't prepare any for today,
but the two that I were thinking about
were the Bills one that I had mentioned earlier.
And I wouldn't be surprised if Derrick Henry
is the biggest bust in fantasy football.
Oh, the opposite side of it.
Okay, nice. So why don't you give me your bus case first? Yeah. I mean, basically I think he,
he has to be among the leaders. I don't know if he has to lead them, but he has to be among the
leaders in rushing touchdowns, you know, to be good. Cause he's not going to catch a lot of
passes and he's 30. How old is he? 30, 31, 30, 30 in January, I believe and he has 2,000 carries like this guy is clearly at the
tail end of his career I think we've seen it the explosive plays are decreasing and yeah I just
I'm not I don't want to bet on that old of a running back it really it's like it I know
Jamie's the age guy usually that's what he age guy usually. That's what he's doing with wide receivers.
That's what I'm doing with Derrick Henry.
I don't want to invest a top 30 pick
on a 30-year-old running back,
which we hardly ever see success,
who has 2,000 carries,
who I think is showing signs of wearing down.
I think he has to get in the end zone,
and he's not going to catch passes.
So I think he has to get in the end zone
a lot to be good.
Yeah, my counter to that would be that if you you look at least for me, the two metrics that I
find most sticky in fantasy football that I like to follow are yards after contact per attempt
and force miss tackles per attempt. And if you look at those numbers, they didn't fall off for
Derek Henry. And so if you're predicting the fall off, we'll come this year and maybe it is just
explosive touchdowns. I agree. He's not going to give you those, you know, he runs down, throws a
defender down on the field and goes 75 yards for a touchdown, which you would do
in, you know, some of the past seasons. I don't expect that from him, but what I do expect from
him is to still be a very efficient runner on first and second down in the red zone and on
third downs. And he's, he's going into an opportunity that Jamie kind of described earlier
for me and did a great job doing with Gus Edwards and some of the players who have been in that
Baltimore system, which is probably the best opportunity for scoring
rushing touchdowns for any running back. Let's say you take Derek Henry's name out of it, right?
It would still, we would still consider this the best opportunity for scoring rushing touchdowns
for any running backs. That's maybe Miami. And I would still put this ahead of them. So
now you're putting in one of the better runs, red zone runners, the NFL over the course of his
career. Yes, he's older, but he hasn't really slowed down in that regard either in my mind when it comes to
short area stuff. And I think that there's a really good opportunity for him to get to 15,
maybe more touchdowns. And if you're getting that amount of touchdowns, it's hard for me to see you
as a fantasy bus, regardless of your low reception total. And you're not breaking off 50, 70 yard
runs because they're going to be games where the Ravens have big leads and they're going to lean
on the running game more so than they did last year. And obviously by bringing
in Derek Henry, they had in mind an idea that yes, we went to a pass heavy system with more 11
personnel last year, but there was clearly a little bit of a hole or a flaw in what we had
with regards to, we were a bit more one-dimensional in the passing game and we want to get to more of
a balanced offense. At least that's how I perceive it. So I think it's a very good opportunity to get those touches it's hard to see me it's hard for me to
see him busting if he gets to double digit touchdowns even what uh what was gus edwards
finish in fantasy points per game that's a good question adam yeah i got you he was on a per game
basis he was 22nd in non-ppr 28th in full ppr and 33rd no sorry 28th and half ppr 33rd in full ppr
i mean that's obviously he's better than than gus edwards and so you know assuming he stays healthy
is he five touchdowns better that's where i'm at 13 gus 13. Gus at 13, he had just under 1,000 total yards.
Right.
So I would say if he stays healthy, he's probably 1,500 total yards and 18 touchdowns.
That's where I'm putting him at, in that range.
I don't see that personally, but, you know, that—
You can't see 1,300 rushing at least?
Oh, 1,500 total yards?
Yeah.
Yeah, total.
Yeah, yeah, sorry.
I could see that.
But if he gets to that range, that's—yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I could see that. But if he gets that range, that's yeah. Go ahead, Jamie.
So the thing that, and listen, Adam, obviously the age scares the hell out of me,
which is, which is my only drawback, but we've said this,
we said a lot last year and, and,
and that's where I keep coming back to is when he was on a team that was
winning, when the Titans were winning games,
he was still Derrick Henry.
The Ravens are going to win a lot of games,
or be in competitive games. They're not going to get blown out, and that was the case.
When the Titans were getting blown out, it was a lot of TyJ Spears,
and we just didn't see Derrick Henry doing the type of things
that he's capable of doing.
That game script's a huge factor.
You step into 13 touchdowns, you step into what Gus Edwards did,
and he's just better than Gus Edwards.
And Gus Edwards is doing that at 28.
So it's not like he was spring chicken either.
So I think it just comes down to cost.
And Dan has been the guy that's taken Derrick Henry in the majority of our offseason drafts so far.
I know you've kind of tried to differentiate yourself a little bit.
If there were real drafts, you'd probably still be taking him in every draft where he goes.
So when you start to get to the middle of round two,
end of round two, I think that's the spot
that he is going to come into play.
His ADP will probably settle somewhere around 20th overall.
I think that's the right spot for him.
It's not the worst investment when you're comparing him to...
The guy I struggle with the
most is Pacheco because I feel like not the same profile but a similar profile like the receptions
are going to be I think what sways it in Pacheco's favor aside from age but you're asking you're
looking at a guy that you want to score a lot of rushing touchdowns and Henry has a better chance
to do that now Pacheco will probably have maybe 300 yards more receiving if, if he stays in this role, maybe more. Um, I, I don't
know where the ceiling lies in terms of that, but I lean toward youth a little bit. So I take
Pacheco first, but those are the two guys to me that are comparable. You know, it's different than
James Cook. It's different than Rashad wide. It's different than HN. If you want to put him in this
category, you know, it's just different. Um, but yeah, I think Henry is going to have to have 15 plus rushing touchdowns to
justify taking him around too.
And clearly there's an opportunity for him to do that.
Yeah.
I actually,
to be fair,
I would not be surprised if Dan scenario is,
is right or mine.
I mean,
I feel like he's a guy with,
with a big outcome.
If he,
if he scores 10 touchdowns or less,
he's a bust.
Yeah, probably.
For where he's being drafted, definitely.
All right.
We got two more from Dan.
I'm going to give you five minutes for these combined,
and then we'll do the rest from Twitter.
Okay.
Dan would not be surprised if Cooper Cup outscores Puka Nakua.
Yeah, this is a big one for me that I've noticed.
You know, I've drafted a lot of Derek Henry.
I've drafted a lot of Cooper Cup in these early drafts.
And, you know, I'm not typically the guy who drafts the older players.
I'm more so along the lines of being scared of the older players,
especially at running back.
But I just think about this situation with Los Angeles.
I feel like everyone's kind of made their decision that Puka Nakua is the guy there now.
He's going to be the number one receiver there.
Cooper Cup's fallen, you's fallen in these drafts,
and people are not really enthused to draft him,
but he was playing hurt last year,
and he's going to be, we at least assume,
fully healthy this year.
We've already seen both him and Puka working together
this offseason, and Cooper Cup looked good in that regard.
And just two years ago, he was viewed as, you know,
what, a top three, top five overall pick in fantasy
a year before that.
Just phenomenal stuff. And yes, all that work he did without Puka. So, you know, you could say, look,
we'll go back to the years that maybe he played with Robert Woods and use those as references,
but Cooper was still a phenomenal receiver there. So I'm not necessarily saying he's going to get
back to that top five, top three overall pick, but I could totally see him out, getting, uh,
you know, out targeting Puka Nak, scoring more touchdowns with Puka,
has a better rapport with Stafford in the red zone, a longer rapport with Matthew Stafford.
I just don't necessarily, and I think he's a better player when healthy than Puka Nakua.
And I just don't necessarily think, understand why everyone's down on Cooper Cup. I guess it's
the age factor and the recent injuries. Yeah, that's exactly it. Bingo. And that's fair,
but we've seen wide receivers bounce back from injuries at this
age it's not uncommon to see this happen and i again these are what ifs so it's not like i
guarantee it's going to happen it's more of a bull you know a boomer bus type pick i get it but
i love the value right now cooper cup that i'm getting him in drafts at
uh yeah i forgot to give the values for derrick henry Henry went in our PPR draft 29th overall.
And in the ESPN draft, Derek Henry went 19th overall.
Cooper Cup, 48th in the ESPN draft.
And 25th to Dan Schneier.
You really do.
Like, you went Kelsey Cup.
Yeah, Kelsey's another one.
I almost put Kelsey in these, too.
You took Keenan Allen
later. And then you
took Austin Eckler.
I regret the Allen pick.
Robert Thomas, Dan's got the
AARP league this year.
The Eckler pick was really late. The Keenan Allen pick
was a regret. It was very early.
No, Keenan Allen and Eckler were back-to-back.
Round 6-7 turn. So you have
at the 2-3 turn, you took Kelsey. It wasn't my best draft. We didn't need to go back. Allen and Eckler were back-to-back, round 6-7 turn. So you have, at the 2-3 turn, you took Kelsey.
It wasn't my best draft.
We didn't need to go back over it.
Maybe it was.
Maybe it was.
I know, look, you probably felt like if you didn't take Cooper Cup 25th overall,
you were not going to get him 48th overall.
No, I look at, it's that, of course,
but also I look at that range of players who come off the board 24th overall,
5th overall.
I see very few players who could win me leagues right there. Cooper Cup is one of the very few I see within that range of players who come off the board 24th overall, fifth overall. I see very few players who could win me leagues right there.
Cooper cup is one of the very few I see within that range of wide
receivers.
I mean,
you could go over some of the guys drafted after him,
but,
but very few for me,
at least stood out.
Drake,
London,
Rashad,
white,
Michael Pitt.
Yeah.
I mean,
they could be great.
Drake,
definitely not Rashad white for me,
but Michael Pittman,
Drake,
London.
I just don't see the upside for them personally,
as I see for cup.
All right.
Last one for Dan.
Dan would not be surprised if.
Oh, sorry.
Dalton Kincaid is the top two.
No, I got it.
My bad.
I was trying to multitask.
Yes.
Dalton Kincaid finishes as a top two tight end, outscoring McBride and Laporta.
Yeah, I couldn't go one because I think Travis Kelsey, to me,
is as close to a lock to finish tight end one as anyone else
at any other position besides McCaffrey.
I personally don't really understand his draft position right now,
but that's for another podcast.
But as far as Kincaid goes, yeah, I look at him as somebody
who could beat out Sam Laporta and somebody who could also beat out Trey McBride.
I would draft him over both of those two players personally,
specifically McBride. So the reason I over both of those two players personally, specifically McBride.
So the reason I like him is I think the target upside for him
is probably greater than any other tight end in this entire draft,
in this entire draft pool, except for Travis Kelsey.
And because I like what I saw toward the end of the season,
they started to use him on a different variety of routes,
more of the intermediate routes.
I saw him start to use him on wheel routes,
things that get him vertical up the sideline
and take advantage of his skillset.
Cause Dalton gate is not your traditional wide tight end.
He's the type of move tight end.
As we saw in his collegiate career, who can get vertical and win in that intermediate
vertical range, but also the vertical level of the field.
So we could be seeing things that we didn't even see last year on tape because they're
more comfortable this year with him within the system.
Josh Allen's more comfortable with his rapport with him, having a full off season to work
with him in training camp as potentially his number one target in the passing game early.
Like, as Jamie said, we know we need guys to step up Coleman, Shakira, all these other
guys that, I mean, they signed Curtis Samuel, but those guys that might take some time for
them to build a rapport with Allen for Kincaid.
He has that leg up.
So I think there's a possibility here for 140 ish targets.
And if he gets that into that range, it's so hard for me to see him not finishing as a top two,
top three,
maybe even the first tight end overall.
He's my favorite breakout candidate this year,
you know,
at any position,
I just think there's so much opportunity for him going into year two.
That's usually when we see tight ends pop that have this type of upside,
this type of potential,
um,
opportunity as Dan alluded to is there,
you know,
quarterback is their system i think
will finish what will allow him to finish in in this range uh it's really going to be the touchdowns
though that's the yeah you know because you saw it from laporta you know kelsey's capable of doing
it it's the same concern i have with mcbride too you know is he going to have enough touchdowns
to be a top four tenant because we've seen it with andrews also you know and and those three guys in
terms of laporta kelsey and andrews i don't think they lose a lot of touchdowns. Whereas you
have to see it from Kincaid. You have to see it from McBride. And at least in the case of McBride,
he's gotten significant competition for Kincaid. Does Dawson Knox still get those red zone
opportunities? Cause he's still a factor. You know, that Josh Allen's going to run. That's
going to be a factor, but if he can get to eight-plus touchdowns,
then he's got the chance to be a special talent.
So I just did a draft, a magazine draft, last Thursday.
Adam, you mentioned your T-ball coaching career.
I was coaching my nine-year-old doing the draft
while fielding shagging balls in the outfield
while we were doing batting practice.
That was fun.
But I took Kincaid. Andrews fell. fielding shagging balls in the outfield while we were doing batting practice. Um, that was fun. Um,
but I took Kincaid,
Andrews fell.
I was kind of committing myself to one of the two in round six.
Um, I was picking.
I think.
Um,
and so Andrews fell and I was like,
after Andrews went right in front of me,
I'm like,
you know,
I really don't love anybody else on the board here as much as I love
Kincaid.
And so I took them back to back.
Uh,
I,
I took Kincaid back to back with Andrews.
I didn't take both.
And I was like, you know,
you never like to do that because it feels like there should be a little bit
of separation between the two in terms of what the draft value should be.
But I don't think the production is going to be that different.
And so that's why I took the chance on him.
I do think that Kincaid takes that leap and I'm very excited about it.
They only went six picks apart in our mock draft
with Andrews going
kind of late in round four and Kincaid going
kind of early in round five.
I took him, right?
No, this is full PPR. Marone took him.
And in ESPN's draft, he went
55th, basically the same exact spot as he went
in ours. And Mark Andrews went
44th, I think.
Oh, no. We look at something else now.
But okay.
Anyway, Dalton Kincaid, we like him.
Let's see what the people, the good people on Twitter had to say.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jason says the New York Giants get booed mercilessly at home
when they wear their new uniforms.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they get booed mercilessly in general, considering
what their team has been for the last five years. But yeah, those new uniforms, I'm not a huge fan of. I didn't has a meaning behind it. The zeros in the 100, they are designed to look like the
stadium at the, I think giant stadium at MetLife. They look exactly like the stadium. So they've got
purpose for everything. And they used to wear red. They used to have a lot of red in their
uniforms back in the day. This is all sounds like somebody trying to convince themselves
that they like this uniform. I don't like them,
but I get it.
But I,
I like them more now than I did.
Like it is a true throwback to something.
Anything is a hundred years old.
It's probably pretty gross.
Yeah.
Uh,
all right.
This next one is from man versus life.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jaden Daniels outscores Anthony Richardson in four
and six point leagues.
I think that's fair.
I wouldn't be surprised totally about that as well.
We're high on Richardson, but it's a similar skill set
with potentially more rushing ups.
I don't want to say more rushing upside,
but potentially more rushing upside.
They're both phenomenal runners, but Jaden Daniels got more done.
I mean, Jaden Daniels had 50 touchdowns last year
in a college football season.
It's insane to think about.
So, yeah, I can see that as well.
Right.
Is it fair to say that if, let's say,
Anthony Richardson did not play at all as a rookie,
we would definitely be taking Jaden Daniels ahead of him.
Sure.
Ahead of him?
Yeah.
Given the receivers, given the college accomplishments.
Given the expectation when they came out of the draft.
Yeah.
We thought Richardson was going to be more of a project.
Yeah.
Okay, from Casey.
I wouldn't be surprised if Adam closed the refrigerator door with his hips.
No, but how do you feel about the bottom drawer,
opening it and closing it with your feet?
So you have a pulled out freezer or door at the bottom?
Both the refrigerator and the –
You mean once you pulled something out of it, right?
Like obviously you'd have to retrieve what you were going to get out of it, a soda or seltzer, whatever it's in there, right?
So the bottom drawer is my meat.
Like I got ground chicken in there right now.
So I'd open the fridge with the handle.
And then I could in theory use my foot to open the bottom drawer.
I go in, I grab the meat,
and then I close it.
If you're already bending down to grab the meat,
what's the point of using your foot to open the door?
That's a good question.
I can see closing it, not opening it.
I can see it.
Do you ever do that?
Do you close bottom drawers with your feet?
I mean, I think a lot of people do.
Why would you open it with your foot, bend over to pick up the meat, and stand back up again and close drawers with your feet? I mean, I think a lot of people do. Why would you open it with your foot, bend over to pick up the foot,
and stand back up again and close it with your foot?
You're already there.
All right, fine.
And just one.
I don't know that I do.
I don't know what I do.
I'm trying to think now.
I wouldn't know until I can.
You're closing it with your foot after it's all done,
just like kicking it in.
Everybody takes little shortcuts.
It's disgusting, though.
I mean, you really shouldn't do that.
Yvette says, I wouldn't be surprised if C.J. Stroud leads the NFL in passing yards.
Yeah, that's...
I mean, Tua did it last year.
There's obviously a great receiving core with the addition of Stephon Diggs.
Not out of their own possibility.
No, I would be a little bit surprised.
I think that system still...
The Sloak system is still a Shanahan-based system.
They want to stay balanced and run the football.
And I don't think the Texans' defense is going to put them in enough positions for shootouts.
So personally, I'd be surprised.
Let me see where they ranked last year.
They were sixth in gross passing yards per game,
so not subtracting for sacks.
They were sixth.
Sigmund Blum of Football Guys says,
I wouldn't be surprised if George Pickens is a top-10 wide receiver.
That's a good take. I like that take. And I guess
I would wonder, I would love to
ask Sig if his thought was
with Russell Wilson as the quarterback or if it
doesn't matter if he's agnostic. I think
with Russell as the quarterback, Pickens has a better chance
of hitting that. I mean, Corlin
Sutton got 10 touchdowns from Russ.
Pickens, obviously, younger.
In case, more explosive.
We saw last year without Deontay
Johnson, he was a superstar
in a couple of those games.
Entering his third season in the NFL, not a lot
of competition for targets. Yeah, it's not
crazy.
I think he's going too late in drafts.
For me, round four is a sweet spot for
Pickens. From Lucene,
I wouldn't be surprised if dan schneier
orders extra small elastic shirts for the spring and summer who said that lucene i don't know i
don't know i'm gonna find that okay lucene no this is first of all can we look at this this is a very
loose fitting shirt yeah it's actually too big you look terrible like it's sloppy
wow this is just unbelievable i can, I can't get it right.
If I'm wearing too small shirts,
it gets called out for two big shirts.
But yeah,
actually the scene,
you know,
uh,
with my new found passion for golf,
I haven't,
I haven't been working out for like two months now because I don't like how it
impacts the golf game.
So those days are over,
you know,
the tight shirt days,
it's,
it's,
it's all gone.
It's all behind me.
I'm,
I'm over,
I'm over the hill.
Okay.
Uh,
from Andrew Hill,
I wouldn't be,
oh, we did this one.
Najee outscores Saquon.
From D Money,
wouldn't be surprised
if teams who take
Brees Hall in round one
miss the playoffs.
Ooh.
I think it's very fascinating.
It's one of the more
fascinating things for me
with studying mock drafts.
You know, as Dan mentioned,
the great job I do.
That when you go running back early in round
one aside from mcafree the talent that you're the talent pool you're pulling from in round two
is is tough if you don't want to go running back running back because we're seeing in most cases
at least in our drafts we're seeing 10 receivers off the board by the time you get there.
And wide receiver, 11, 12, 13, Dan makes the case for Cooper Cup, Michael Pittman.
I think Drake Lund is going to be gone by then, but he's in this conversation.
Olave could still be in this conversation.
I'm fine with those guys, but when you start to get to Pittman and Mike Evans and if Cooper Cup is going to be there, Jalen Waddell, T. Higgins,
those guys that are there back into round two, beginning of round three,
Devontae Smith, I don't think they belong there.
And so for me, it's essentially like if there's a sweet spot,
it's kind of like four, five, six, where you know you can still get Chase,
Jefferson, St. Brown, one of those guys, and you come back in round two and you have your potential of Travis Etienne
or even Barkley or Taylor if they fall or one of those caliber running backs.
I like that strategy better.
Taking Brees Hall early in round two scares me.
I like him in the back end of round one.
Same with Bison Robinson just because I can get him
and then one of those receivers, and I just like that better.
This is from Jalen Johnson, top five.
I wouldn't be surprised if all three Texans-wide receivers
average more fantasy points per game than T. Higgins.
It's not crazy.
Average. I don't know about average.
Maybe score because of T. Higgins' injury history,
but I don't know.
I still think that offense in Cincinnati
is going to be passed first. Joe Burrow, as long as he's healthy, is going to get the ball out there to Higgins injury history, but I don't, I don't know. I, I still think that offense in Cincinnati is going to be passed first.
Joe Burrow,
as long as he's healthy is going to get the ball out there to Higgins and
to chase more concentrated targets there than they have in Houston.
So I I'd be surprised at it.
The thing with, with Higgins is, is this,
I'm going crazy to get a contract and I'm going to have the best year of my
life. Or is it, uh, I banged my toe.
I can't play.
I got to worry about my contract.
You know, like one of those situations.
Like, that's what scares me.
From Ruthless Ritz,
I wouldn't be surprised if Adam and Dan Schneier
are tied for last in an athletic competition
against a tree.
Yeah, yeah.
A tree.
Yeah, yeah.
If we ultimately do this thing, it's not going to be like we're watching like pay-per-view TV with like great athletes on the –
just showing off their skill sets.
It's going to be two of the saddest athletes out there.
I'm going to see who's sad.
I'm going to the doctor today because I have a shoulder injury, by the way.
All right.
Here's what we got.
You each get 30 seconds.
Cut your wrestling promo about why you're the best athlete of the two of you. Dan, you go first. No, Adam's going first. All right, here's what we got. You each get 30 seconds. Cut your wrestling promo about why you're the best athlete of the two of you.
Dan, you go first.
No, Adam's going first.
All right, ready?
Have you seen Dan Schneier?
That's all I have to say.
Okay.
Dan Schneier versus Adam Azer.
Azer comes into this matchup sanding 134 pounds, soaking wet.
Played tennis a lot lately, but generally speaking,
no athleticism, not a bone in his body.
Dan Schneider just has to step onto the field.
He can fall down.
He can throw a feather up in the air and watch the wind,
do whatever he needs here, but Adam is going to fall.
I love the Forrest Gump imagery there.
And finally, from Andre, we wouldn't we have to end on
this, right? I wouldn't be surprised if Daniel Jones goes back to 2022 form and Malik neighbors
finishes as a top 10 wide receiver. Well, these things don't really make sense because he goes
back to 2022 form. That was 15 passing touchdowns and like 200 yards passing the game. So how does
that help Malik neighbors become a top 10 wide receiver?
So I think what this guy meant to say,
this is probably an issue with a lot of the Daniel Jones supporters is he
has to take a new step.
It can't be 2022.
That was again,
only 15 passing touchdowns.
It has to be,
he takes a jump because he has a better team around him,
which,
you know,
some giants fans think might happen in year six and then Malik neighbors
benefits because of it.
I think you just generally means generally.
Yeah.
It generally means he will play better.
Like he,
he will play 2022.
It can't be that because people have this misnomer about 2022.
We didn't throw the football in 2022.
They were dead last year.
Definitely don't think misnomer was the word.
By the way.
No,
it definitely wasn't.
I mean,
it was,
it is certainly called 2022.
Can we give Johnny Airport 2 some credit?
His jokes have been very good in the chat.
What did Johnny Airport?
I haven't seen it.
He was making fun of you for being old, for drafting the elderly team.
Okay.
And the last one that
he had was really good all right he said one thing he said was after adam makes the perfect ham and
cinnamon raisin sandwich he smugly swivels his hip to shut the refrigerator door or what am i
missing here i like that one dan busts out the mesh cut off sleeve shirt is that the one no the
last one was um i would pay to last one was I would pay to see
Adam and Dan run together
in a three-legged potato sack race.
Remember those things
The earlier ones were really good too,
so I just want to give them credit.
Thank you.
Thank you, Johnny Airport.
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I appreciate that. It's nice to be complimented.
Sometimes, sometimes it's a little uncomfortable.
You got something on your nose there though.
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