Fantasy Football Today - J.K. Dobbins News, Mailbag, Fantasy Cops! (10/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 22, 2022

We react to the breaking news on J.K. Dobbins late in the show (38:40). Before that, we've got your news and notes (2:10), Apple Podcast questions (11:30), Fantasy Cops (24:00), emails at fantasyfootb...all@cbsi.com (27:45) and YouTube questions (44:00).  Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Let's empty out the mailbag on this Friday afternoon. This is your Friday afternoon YouTube stream, your Saturday morning podcast. Please check out the YouTube stream, youtube.com slash fantasy football today. All of our videos on demand right there. Plus FFT and five and fantasy football today.
Starting point is 00:02:00 DFS. I'm Adam Azer and no Dan Schneier today. He's settling a league dispute. And here with Jamie Eisenberg. Here with Jamie. I'm very annoyed with Jamie. Let me tell everybody why. Let me tell you why, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Facing off against Jamie in at least two leagues this week. You got a very annoying 17 catches from two players last night. i just get a little frustrated with ppr you had hopkins and camara and i just looked at the score and what's annoying is you're starting matt ryan in that league where you have hopkins and camara and i'm starting matt ryan in the other league in which i'm playing you in um and i'm just kind of annoyed with you
Starting point is 00:02:41 for reasons beyond your control so the one league league where I got off to a good start, I started Kamara and Hopkins, like you said. That team's gotten off to a brutal, brutal start. And I really liked that team when I drafted it. It's Najee Harris and Alvin Kamara were my first two picks, or two of my first three picks. I don't remember exactly how it went. I think I just lost Marquise Brown in that league, though.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Oh, good. But you got Hopkins back. Yeah, right, right. I did have an injury there. Oh, you know what? This is my Stefan Diggs league. That makes me even more annoyed. Forget it.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Congratulations on your victory. We got news updates for you. We got fantasy cops. We got Apple podcast questions. We got to hold ourselves accountable for a couple of things here that we'll have fun with. And remember, I didn't get a lot of Apple podcast questions this week. Don't forget, that's the best way to get your question right on the show. Leave us a five-star review on Apple podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And it's got to have a nice review in there. Tell everybody why you like the show. And you can ask us a question additionally. All right, let's go through the news here. There's a pretty good chance, apparently, that Christian McCaffrey is going to play. Are you going to keep him around the 13-ish mark in your rankings?
Starting point is 00:03:56 I mean, he might drop a couple of spots. He certainly will not go up because of just the uncertainty of how much work he may or may not get. But as I said on Friday's edition, which we're wearing the same clothes, that if he plays, you have to play him. I'm also wearing the same clothes that I wore last night when we did our Christian McCaffrey podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:20 You did shave, though. I did shower and shave, but i put the same clothes back on basically i don't want to explain my message on the word too oh boy yeah that's gross well i'm trying it really is uh carolina's going running back by committee they're going running back by committee, which isn't a surprise. But they also mentioned Raheem Blackshear as another guy that could be in the committee. So I think best bet is let's just see how this plays out. Don't start any of these guys against the Bucs.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I did some numbers. Looked at some numbers since we spoke about this twice already. Did you know that Shuba Hubbard last year, in the 10 games that McCaffrey missed, he had six games with at least 15 total touches. And in four of those, he had 13 or more PPR points. Yeah, those are mostly early, though. The first group of five.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Did you know that in the games that Derrick Henry missed last year, Deontay Foreman had at least 13 carries in five games, and he scored 13 or more PPR points in three of them. Okay, so I thought it would have been more than that because he was on pace for over 300 carries. He was on a 315-ish carry pace. He got a ton of work. Well, there was one game where he had a 100-yard game and no touchdown or catches,
Starting point is 00:05:41 so he had nine fantasy points because he fumbled. That's what happens when you don't care. Yeah, right. So Foreman was good for six games at the end of last year. Hubbard was pretty good in the first five games that McCaffrey left and then not so good in the second five games that McCaffrey missed. You know how many games McCaffrey has this year over 15 carries? One.
Starting point is 00:06:03 You know which game it was? Giants. No, the one that they won against the Saints. Ah. How many games he has with at least four plus catches? Four.
Starting point is 00:06:14 He has five games with at least four plus catches. Damn it. Do you know how many times he was targeted this season? Yes, because I saw a Heath video about it. 43?
Starting point is 00:06:24 43 targets. So I'll go back to what we said prior to the trade, that this feels like Hubbard should be the better of the two if they're going to use him in the passing game, based on how these teams should probably operate. But it's such a gamble. I did a poll. Who's the best Panthers running back rest of season?
Starting point is 00:06:41 And the poll so far, this was 50 minutes ago, 1,364 votes. Deontay Foreman, 65% of the votes. Yeah, I've changed my mind. I was Foreman originally. I think you guys made a good point. I think it's
Starting point is 00:06:57 not a situation where, oh, well, they're just not going to throw to the running backs anymore. You can't say, look at all the other guys that are going to get targets. No, I think they're still going to have to throw to their running backs. Not You can't say, look at all the other guys that are going to get targets. No, I think they're still going to have to throw
Starting point is 00:07:05 to their running backs. Not nearly as much, but three catches a game for Chuba Hubbard. Eight to ten carries. Not so unrealistic. Yep. Frank Reich is optimistic that Jonathan Taylor will play.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I wish that they would just say he's playing, but that's what it is right now. Make sure Naeem Hines is rostered in your leagues. Pat Fryermuth and Kenny Pickett are going to play this week at Miami. J.K. Dobbins missed practice. All right. What do you think about the Ravens running backs
Starting point is 00:07:36 if Dobbins doesn't play? I want to find out if Edwards is going to play. That's kind of the next shoe to drop. Right? Is that what you say? Sh a drop in a blanket. I think if Edwards does not play, Kenyon Drake is a strong flex play. If Edwards does play, you're risking Kenyon Drake, but he would be the best of the trio. At least that's the way I would look at it going into the, into the week. But I will say this again. If you have an IR spot and Gus Edwards is available, please
Starting point is 00:08:09 stash him. Make a decision if you have to after this weekend and see what happens with your roster. But he may be the best Ravens running back in the next couple of weeks if he's right and Dobbins is not. You don't even need an IR spot to justify it. He's 24% rostered. He's going to be coming off of it soon. Yeah, you is not. You don't even need an IR spot to justify it. He's 24% rostered.
Starting point is 00:08:25 He's going to be coming off of it soon. Yeah, you're right. You could pick him up if you have a roster. So let's put it this way, put it in context. If you're looking at the Panthers' backfield and Gus Edwards, I would rather have Gus Edwards. Yeah. Okay, how about our next news?
Starting point is 00:08:42 I will say this just to tease our Sunday show once again. So Jason LaConfora, he hosts a radio show in Baltimore. He's very plugged into that team. I'm going to ask him that question on Sunday when I speak to him. What's the deal with the Ravens' backfield for this weekend? Yeah. Remember when we used to host a radio show? I do.
Starting point is 00:08:58 That's fun. Okay, Russell Wilson practiced. Let's hope he plays. Pat from Ohio misses it, too. Oh, for sure. I haven't heard much from him this year. Cameron Braid, Julio Jones, out. So are defensive tackle Akeem Hicks
Starting point is 00:09:11 and cornerback Sean Murphy Bunting. They probably won't need them at Carolina. Why are fantasy managers rostering Julio Jones? It is weird, isn't it? It's right around 40% rostered. I don't understand. Hunter Renfro is going to practice today, and they are hopeful that he will play.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And you like Hunter Renfro's sleeper appeal as we don't expect Darren Waller out. We don't expect Darren Waller to play. Yes. Yeah, it's weird. I mean, look at the games that Jerry Judy and Christian Kirk had against the Texans. They were dreadful.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And the Texans allow the fewest yards to slot receivers. So something to keep in mind, but you just would love the opportunity for Hunter Renfro there. Logan Thomas is out. Jahan Dotson is questionable against the Packers. And we don't know yet about DeAndre Swift, by the way. We're looking into that. Haven't seen anything.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Hopefully something breaks while we're on the air. News breaks. I don't want anything else Hopefully something breaks while we're on the air. Some news breaks. I don't want anything else to break. I already broke my microphone here, so I have to stand awkwardly until I get a new one. You did? Yeah. It fell.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I don't know if you can tell. It's tape. See all that tape there? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, it's a problem. There's almost no better feeling than sinking into the couch for a long Sunday of football,
Starting point is 00:10:23 but you know what's even better? You can win money. And sorry, we got our football pick-em game. Show off your knowledge in our football pick-em game. You can go on the app and hit the more button on the app or go to cbssports.com slash play and yeah, play our pick-em game and win some prizes. Check it out. All right, let's do a segment called Holding Ourselves Accountable. A couple things here. Should I go first or should I make Jamie go first? Jamie, you or me first? I don't know what you're going to hold me accountable for.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I'm certainly not afraid to be held accountable. I appreciate you doing that. I already told you before the show started. You can go first. Oh, it's about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Jamie called Andrew Garfield of Spider-Man fame. the show started you can go first oh it's about that yeah yeah yeah yeah jamie uh called andrew garfield of spider-man fame andrew garfinkel who when i did a quick google search there are a couple
Starting point is 00:11:13 there's like an eye doctor named andrew garfinkel uh yeah so that was funny there was another comment what show did you say that on was that Thursday? That was when we were talking about the character that Heath resembles in House of Dragons. And I said, do you know who, what actor he was? I'm sorry, you said it. Right. Do you know what movie he played in or what other thing he was in? And I had just told Heath that day or the day before that he was the kicker in the replacements. And I said he also was the bad guy in the Spider-Man movie with Andrew Garfield, where I said he was the croc,
Starting point is 00:11:50 but apparently he was the lizard. That was the other thing. Yeah, you got called out for that, too. You totally butchered that whole thing. So we just had to hold JB accountable for that. I need to be held accountable for my appearance on Thursday's shows. I really look terrible. Just not shaven, just messy.
Starting point is 00:12:09 The shirt wasn't really working for me. And someone accurately pointed out, and I'll show the picture now, that I looked like the hobo from Polar Express. And I was like, wow, I really did look like the hobo from Polar Express. So we will do better, everybody. Sorry about that. Well, you are doing more and more hq appearances and so you know we're we're we're putting you in a position that you have to shave more often yeah i have enough shaving cream for this but apparently i don't have enough underwear because i am rewaring after my showers that's amazing all right apple podcast
Starting point is 00:12:43 let's go to our Apple podcast questions. We appreciate all your five-star reviews. This is from Marissa. Hey, Jordy, Robert, Aaron, and Aaron. Jordy's pretty old school. Those are Packers, I'm guessing. Nelson, Tunyon, Jones, and Rogers. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:02 My league has been non-PPR since before I joined. Can you provide a persuasive argument in favor of switching to PPR for next season? I mean, if you just like more points and to make wide receivers a little bit more relevant than running backs, it's the best way to go. You can also go half PPR as well. I think just, you know, it's just so simplified when it's non-PPR. Yeah, I think you should do half PPR personally, but the argument against non-PPR is that touchdowns
Starting point is 00:13:34 are just so valuable. Quarterbacks, I think, have kind of an unfair weight in those leagues. And, yeah, I don't really love, I do love all formats, honestly, but if I'm just being picky, you know, playing against Alvin Kamara and DeAndre Hopkins and they combined for like 39 points or something, I don't think they should have, you know, catches being one point is a little too much for me. I like him as half point, but I like them to count for something. You get, you get
Starting point is 00:14:01 higher scores, you get more points, you get more excitement on a Sunday night or a Monday night if you've got one person left and you need to catch up to 20 points or something like that. You've got more to root for. Non-PPR is just a little bit too simple, and I strongly recommend getting away from non-PPR. I play in one league where it kind of balances out a little bit where you don't start accruing catches
Starting point is 00:14:24 until it's the third catch of the game. Okay, yeah. So it's full PPR, but you have to get to the third catch until you start to. Yeah, that would have been great. That would have been only like 35 points from Kamara and Hopkins last night.
Starting point is 00:14:35 But it kind of balances out the Gabe Davis of the world a little bit. Sure. This is from The Puma. I started 0-6. You guys have helped a lot throughout the years, but this year has been a major flop. I drafted in order Joe Mixon, Alvin Kamara, Terry McLaurin, and DJ Moore.
Starting point is 00:14:53 The only pick we would not have liked there was McLaurin. You guys were so high on DJ Moore, and he's been straight trash. Thanks for that one. Ha-ha. But I read this just because I think we should reflect on DJ Moore and he's been straight trash. Thanks for that one. Ha ha. But I did want, I read this just because I think we should reflect on DJ Moore. What do you think went wrong with our evaluation of DJ Moore? Baker Mayfield. No, I think we put too much stock in Baker being the tonic that he needed to sort of get over the top compared to where he was, he was with the poor quarterback play that he's had. So, you know, I mean, Ben McAdoo being the coordinator,
Starting point is 00:15:32 that's obviously a flaw. I don't think it's a DJ Moore personal problem, at least at the start of the season. But, you know, I don't want to speak for Heath because Heath really went all in. You know, like the guy that I was going all in on was Pittman for a similar reason, you know, I don't want to speak for Heath because Heath really went all in. You know, like the guy that I was going all in on was Pittman for a similar reason, you know, quarterback change and lack of competition for targets. And it sort of played itself out that way a little bit.
Starting point is 00:15:57 You know, Heath, I know, was just so over the top about DJ Moore's touchdown rate rising because of Baker's ability to get guys in the end zone a little bit better than what we've seen for him. That's one I think we'd all collectively like a do-over on. I think if I told you that DJ Moore would have a 25.3% target share,
Starting point is 00:16:20 you would take that, but what has gone wrong... I would have anticipated that, though. What's that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what's gone wrong is they have, by far, the lowest time of possession in the NFL. They have the ball for 24 minutes a game, basically. And you can't be... Let me just check the plays.
Starting point is 00:16:39 They are not dead last in plays, but among teams who have played six games, they are dead last. So they have the fewest plays per game. And this is the worst version that we've ever seen of Baker Mayfield. He's just been awful. And Moore's been a number two wide receiver throughout his career.
Starting point is 00:16:59 So he shouldn't be this bad. It's surprising. All right, what's next here? What's next in the Apple podcast world? From 707JWALK, should I trade in a 10-team PPR dynasty league? Najee Harris for Michael Pittman. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I've been meaning to ask you a question since yesterday really since this morning so all day and i haven't asked it chris olave in dynasty top five top 10 wide receiver what do you think i'll say top 10 um you know not knowing all the ages of some of these receivers off the top of my head but he's clearly behind jefferson and chase he is you know it depends on i think how you want to view the saints quarterback situation moving forward and if they continue to struggle they're going to be a new head coach as well so some things could change but that's when i know personally i'd like a do-over i had the fifth overall selection in a super flex rookie dynasty league draft and i took garrett wilson and i was like chris alave instead yeah you never know But, no, he's everything that could be advertised and more. So he might be top five, but I think definitely top ten.
Starting point is 00:18:31 All right, so here's Heath's Dynasty rankings, I think recently updated. He does it every week, so I guess. Yeah. So it's Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, CeeDee Lamb, Cooper Cup, AJ Brown, Tee Higgins, Jalen Waddell, Amonra St. Brown, Drake London, DK Metcalf, Stefan Diggs, who's
Starting point is 00:18:53 28 years old. Cooper Cup, I thought he was 29. Michael Pittman, Garrett Wilson, and Chris Olave. Just ahead of Devante Adams. I'd probably move him about five spots up. Right. I think you could put him ahead of everyontae Adams. I'd probably move him about five spots up. Right. I think you could put him ahead of every rookie from this year,
Starting point is 00:19:10 London, and... Well, he's already ahead of most, but not London. So you'd put him ahead of Diggs and Metcalf. Oh, and Garrett Wilson. Yeah. I think you'd have to put Waddell ahead of him. Higgins is interesting. I would put him ahead of Morris St. Brown, personally.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yeah? So that'd be eight. I just am so impressed. He really might be a superstar in the making. Just does everything. He's terrific. All right. We got from Latenzo.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Half PPR. Clyde Edwards-Ziller, Jeff Wilson, or Brian Robinson this week? What's the format? Half. If Wilson is not dealing with you-know-who, then Wilson. If he is, Robinson. Can't say. Is it like Harry Potter? You can't say his name?
Starting point is 00:20:02 If Christian McCaffrey does not play, Wilson. If McCaffrey does play, then Robinson. This is from that one guy who ordered Domino's. I got no problem with Domino's. I haven't had it in a while. JK Dobbins has been ruled out. Okay. Well, we already told you what to do
Starting point is 00:20:20 if JK Dobbins gets ruled out. And it says everyone else is in play. So I guess that means Gus Edwards too? Sorry, this happens during the show. Here's the question. Die Hard isn't a Christmas movie. Now that I have your attention, Adam, I need some help.
Starting point is 00:20:35 I got Antonio Brown for cheap two years ago in a dynasty league with contracts. At the moment, I have to keep Antonio Brown on my roster because he has not officially retired. What is your guys' opinion on this? I feel like he will never play again and I should be able to drop him freely.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Of course. You should be able to drop him? Yes, why would you be forced to hold him? I guess you're forced to roster players that haven't retired. Yeah, I don't like that. So Gus Edwards is not on the injury report. They do not have to put him on the injury report while he's on the PUP list. I believe they have to make him active by the end of this weekend, though.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Okay. And, yeah, so I don't know if he's going to play. But, okay, Dobbins is not. So what Jason Lockenford told me last week when I asked him about this, he said that how they kind of babied J.K. Dobbins to start the season, they're probably going to do the same thing as Wes Edwards. That makes sense. Huh?
Starting point is 00:21:31 That makes sense. But they may not have a choice if they feel that they need him. A Kenyan Drake. So anyway, I don't know about this. I mean, if there's a rule that you have to roster a guy until he retires, because what if he comes back? I think they should have a rule that if you drop him, that you, guy who ordered Domino's, cannot pick up Antonio Brown,
Starting point is 00:21:55 that you'd be ineligible. He's not coming back. Newsflash. Hey, you never know, man. This is from the Sriracha Kid, who calls us the 95 bulls of podcasts, except really we want to be the 96 bulls, but we'll take 95 as well. Should I drop Bateman or Dobbins
Starting point is 00:22:14 for Ayuk, Rondell Moore, or Gallup? If not, I have to start Bateman. Drop Ayuk for Bateman or Bateman for Iyuk? Bateman for Iyuk. I mean, I prefer Iyuk this week, but rest of season, I'd probably prefer Bateman. Would you rather just have Gallup? Than Iyuk?
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yeah. Yeah. Or Bateman. And the thing is, he says he has to start Bateman, so we don't even know if Bateman's going to play, so you might just have to do this. I think Bateman's going to play. I'm going to guess based on the fact that we're getting Ravens news
Starting point is 00:22:50 and he hasn't been ruled out, he's going to play. He's questionable. That's all I can tell you. Okay. From Gambino Mafia, start three, sit one. PPR, CeeDee Lamb, Godwin, Sutton, T. Higgins. Who are you sitting? Still have to sit one of those guys, but I'm sitting Sutton.
Starting point is 00:23:08 From Alex, pick two in half PPR. Travis Etienne, Christian Kirk, or Alan Lazard? Travis Etienne and Alan Lazard. All right. We're going to take a break. We'll get the fantasy cops out here. It was a weird glitch on another format last night.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Not going to call them out or anything, but there was a fantasy cops thing that came out of it. We'll talk to you about that. Dan's calling in for fantasy cops, right? No. I hope he wasn't embarrassed by that. I feel bad.
Starting point is 00:23:43 No, he had fun with it on Twitter. I said to him afterwards, I tweeted fun with it on Twitter. Okay, good. I said to him afterwards, I tweeted at him, because somebody tweeted us, that they enjoyed it. And I said, I enjoyed it as well. I listened to it later that night to help me fall asleep. And then there was another thing I tweeted, that if Sean McVay did not rule out Cam Akers
Starting point is 00:24:04 prior to last week's game on Friday, he would have still been gone. All right, we'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Did you know 66% of utility damage is caused by not requesting a locate? Don't let your project become part of this statistic. A quick locate request can save you from unexpected downtime, financial penalties, and keep you safe. Don't let avoidable damage cost you time and money.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Click before you dig. Ensure your next project is safe. Visit OntarioOneCall.ca. It's free. It's easy. It's the law. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. Welcome back. It's time for the Fantasy Cops. We're settling your league disputes. You have stupid managers in your league that veto trades because they're crybabies
Starting point is 00:24:50 and we tell them to stop being crybabies and other issues as well. Let's read this one from Angel. Angel says, I'm in a league where I ended up with McCaffrey, Chubb, and Fournette. So I have McCaffrey at flex, LOL. However, I also had DeAndre Hopkins on my bench.
Starting point is 00:25:09 I did not play Hopkins because I felt McCaffrey had more upside. But by the time McCaffrey got traded, the game had started. With the news that just dropped that McCaffrey might not even play this Sunday, I would have obviously started DeAndre Hopkins over him. I asked the commissioner if there was any way I could swap him in. My other options are Mooney or Williams. Should I and other people be allowed to swap any Thursday players who we might have put in instead of instead? Or is this just part of fantasy football? It's just part of fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:25:41 That's why we'll always tell you whenever you have a player on Thursday night, play them in their spots and not their flex spots. Now I'm going to guess this manager probably has good wide receivers better than Deandre Hopkins. So I didn't want to play Hopkins in the flex. So I get that. So you're just kind of stuck, but no, you should not be allowed to swap out your lineup.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Despite the fact that this move happened, it is just, you know, by nature, the, the flaws of every now It is just, by nature, the flaws of every now and then, every couple of years, we get these kind of trades on a Thursday.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Yeah, it stinks, but you can't do anything about it. Now this... But again, like... Just kidding. Even if your receiving core is loaded, you should have put Hopkins in the receiver spot. Well, he might just have better... No, he didn't put Hopkins anywhere. He put Hopkins on the receiver spot. Well, he might just have better... No, he didn't put Hopkins anywhere. He put Hopkins
Starting point is 00:26:28 on his bench. He put McCaffrey in the flex spot. He benched Hopkins. So now he's saying, hey, I didn't know that McCaffrey was going to get traded. I want to go back. And you can't do that. I'm sorry. I'd like to know who the receivers are that they benched Hopkins. Yeah, yeah. Hopefully they're terrific.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Alright, anyway, this is Greg from a town West of the guitar hotel. Oh, you can do that one. Weston Weston. Yeah. Uh, the, uh, a website, a different website glitched tonight on Thursday night and made everyone playing in the saints CardCardinals game on a bye after the game had started. Did you see that, by the way? No. One manager in my league
Starting point is 00:27:11 panicked over the glitch and dropped the Cardinals defense for the Colts defense. His opponent noticed this change and sent a screenshot of his original lineup to the group text. Immediately after the screenshot
Starting point is 00:27:22 was sent to the group text, Andy Dalton threw two pick sixes. Should the manager get the Cardinals DST back? Should he be allowed to use the Colts D? Should he get zero points for defenses this week? Please help us, Fantasy Cops. I think if it was legitimately a site error, which it sounds like it was, and because of that, if the manager who made any ad drops, in this case, the Cardinals DSD can say, I was unaware of what was happening. I thought I made a mistake and that the Cardinals were on a buy and it legitimately screwed me up and threw me off. Granted, he should have checked
Starting point is 00:27:55 the buy weeks and see what the schedule was. But if there is, if this is an honest person and has no history of any transgressions, then I would allow them to put the Cardinals DST back in their lineup. Okay. Yeah. I mean, if it's a sight issue, you know, like it was. I saw it. I saw it. They had everyone listed on a buy. It was weird.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yeah. All right. So, right. So, they're right. Their original intention was to start the Cardinals DST. Yeah, I agree. All right. Good job, officer. So, they're right. Their original intention was to start the Cardinals DST. Yeah, I agree. All right. Good job, officer. Thank you. And those have been the fantasy cops for today's show.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And that brings us to our emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. This is from Jonathan. Which running back should I add? Kenyon Drake, Chuba Hubbard, Tyler Algier, or Justice Hill? Pretty simple. If you need somebody for this week, it's Kenyon Drake, Chuba Hubbard, Tyler Algier, or Justice Hill? Pretty simple. If you need somebody for this week, it's Kenyon Drake. If you need somebody to speculate on long-term, it would probably be Chuba Hubbard.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Okay, Joe from Boston. Which two running backs should I start in half PPR? Jeff Wilson, Ramondre Stevenson, Travis Etienne, or Clyde Edwards-Ziller? Ramondre Stevenson and Travis Etienne. From Glenn... That's including if Wilson is the guy in San Francisco. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:11 From Glenn Smith. Dear John, Jake, Jay, and Joe. John, Jake, Jay, and Joe. Yeah. Four people who don't have the best name that starts with a letter J. These are four players who played quarterback for the same franchise. John,
Starting point is 00:29:29 Jake, Jay, and Joe, John, Jake, Jay, and Joe. I'm having trouble with that.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Joe. It's Denver. John Elway, Jake, Jake Plummer, Jay Cutler. Who's Joe? Joe.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I traded Raheem Mostert. Yeah, I know. Or as we would say on HQ if you watched on Friday, Rashim Mostert and Chris Godwin for Ezekiel Elliott. Would you have done that? He has Debo, Pittman, Cooper, and Juju. He has Eckler and Singletary and Henderson at running back, so he wanted a running back upgrade.
Starting point is 00:30:12 He traded Mostert and Godwin for Zeke in half PPR. I don't hate it. I think if it was full PPR, I would be a little bit more, you know, objective to it. But I think, you know, we kind of laid out the scenario earlier today that Zeke's schedule is about to get favorable, should go off this week. And, I mean, the Bucs offense just may not get on track. You know, we keep waiting for them to take advantage of great matchup after great matchup, and they just haven't been doing it.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Godwin's yet to find the end zone. There is still the scenario of what happens when Julio's back and Russell Gage is involved. Does Godwin ever live up to the expectations of what we have of him? So I don't mind a trade. Who could forget Joe Flacco one year for the Denver Broncos? Oh, I forgot. This is from Joey.
Starting point is 00:31:03 By the way, unbelievable setup how you got dave into the game of the week i had so much fun with that oh yeah i don't think you're like watching his reaction though i was watching his reaction no i mean like as you were looking for the music though as i was i i saw i saw dave where are we at in notes? He's like, um, I'll write this. The look on his face when the music started playing. It was very funny. Which two running back? Oh, I just read that one.
Starting point is 00:31:36 This is from, sorry, I went backwards in the notes. This time I really don't know where I am. Caleb in Kansas City. Dear Trevor, Gardner, Blake, and Chad. Oh, same theme. Trevor, Gardner, Blake, and Chad would be Henny, Bortles, Minshew,
Starting point is 00:31:53 and who? Trevor Lawrence. Christian Kirk was dropped. Should I drop Darnell Mooney or DJ Moore for him? I would probably still drop Mooney over Moore with the hope
Starting point is 00:32:07 that Sam Darnold rescues DJ Moore or he gets traded. This is from Trevor. Who has a higher value rest of season, DeAndre Swift or Joe Mixon? Joe Mixon because I feel more comfortable with his health situation.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Although you've jinxed him now because of your more comfortable with his health situation. Yeah, not many people. Although you've jinxed him now because of your Samajit Piran situation. Now, believe me, I'm all about Joe Mixon. Brandon from. What was I about to ask you? If you were the Packers, would you give up a first round pick for DJ Moore? No. Would you give up a second and something else for DJ Moore?
Starting point is 00:32:45 I'd give up a second and a fourth. Second and a fourth. What about you? Not a fourth. What about you? If I felt like I was going to be in the bottom half of the first round, then I would give up a first one.
Starting point is 00:32:59 If I felt like I'm going to be where I am right now, which is the middle of the first round pick, knowing that they have to start addressing their offense at some point with the drafts, then no, I probably would not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I'm confused about DJ Moore, what kind of a player he is. It's hard to put up the numbers he did in 2019 and 20 without being a really good player. But he wasn't really that great last year on a per-target basis. He never scores.
Starting point is 00:33:27 His team never throws touchdowns, so I think it's more about that. I don't know what the hell's going on with him this year, but, I mean, I do know. Yeah, you probably shouldn't give up a first for him, but... And you know what? Put it this way. If McCaffrey was worth a 2, 3, 4, and 5, then I don't think DJ Moore is worth a 2 and a 4. I think he's worth a 3
Starting point is 00:33:46 and a 4. That's a no-brainer. I guess, yeah, if you're looking at it, I mean, Amari Cooper was only worth two 3s. Moore's pretty young, though. I mean, there's still a lot of years left for him. Okay. So, Brandon from a city just north of Tijuana. I'm going to say Minneapolis.
Starting point is 00:34:02 It's pretty north. Dear Freddie, Michael, Jason, and Chucky. We know them. 12-team PPR league. I have to drop one of these players. Yikes. Kareem Hunt, Jamal Williams, and Brandon Cooks. Why do you have to drop someone?
Starting point is 00:34:21 I don't know. It also says, Who's the best flex this week and keep rest of season? I have to drop one. Kareem Hunt, Jamal Williams, Brandon Cooks. Kareem Hunt, I guess. You drop him?
Starting point is 00:34:40 It's either him or Brandon Cooks right now just because if Jamal Williams remains a starter for the Lions for any stretch of time. You see what, how good he could be. And who are you flexing this week? The argument against that would be as a swift is healthy. Then Jamal Williams is the easy one to drop,
Starting point is 00:34:51 but he just does a hard time staying healthy. So who are you flexing this week? Hunt Jamal Williams or cooks? That depends. If swift is not active, then it's Jamal Williams easily. If, if not,
Starting point is 00:35:01 I'd probably go cooks. Okay. From David Allegria. I need a flex Clyde Edwards,zulair or Romeo Dobbs? PPR. Dobbs? Would it be a good time to trade Clyde or does he have enough late season value to keep?
Starting point is 00:35:17 I just feel like you missed your window to trade him. It's not like he's never going to have a good game again. No. Yes, you can obviously still trade him. You missed your window to get something great in return for him. I mean, what would you be looking to get back for Clyde at this point? Yeah, I don't think now's the right time. What would I be looking to get back?
Starting point is 00:35:38 Terry McLaurin? Maybe. And lastly, where can I get one of those CBS hoodies Jamie wears? I don't know if that's for sale anywhere. I can certainly sell it for the right price. That's actually the second compliment I've gotten that today. If you search on Google, CBS Sports Merchandise Fantasy Football Today Store,
Starting point is 00:36:04 just those types of words i can't like give you the url because it's cbs sports store.cbssports.com slash collection slash fantasy dash football dash today that's easy uh we don't have any of those oh we do have hoodies i think the hoodie on here yes we do we have an fft hoodie so you can get that. You can go to our merch store. It's cool stuff. Next question via email. Rank these guys rest of season. Joshua in Kentucky. Tyler Boyd, Russell Gage, Hunter Renfro.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Tyler Boyd, Russell Gage, Hunter Renfro. Tyler Boyd, Renfro Gage. From Chris, pick three to start in PPR. Judy, Alec Pierce, DJ Moore, Drake London, and Nico Collins. Pierce, London, Judy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:57 From Danny, who do I start at my three flex spots? It's full PPR and a five-point bonus for a 100-yard game, so he needs three flexes. Damian Harris, Romeo Dobbs, Jacoby Myers, Jerry Judy, DJ Moore,
Starting point is 00:37:13 Darnell Mooney, and Kada Hutton. Damian Harris, Romeo Dobbs, Jacoby Myers, Jerry Judy, DJ Moore, Darnell Mooney, Kada Hutton. And it's half PBR? Full. Full PBR? I'll still go Harris. Got to go Myers, right?
Starting point is 00:37:33 You should. It's Halloween month. Is that a good reason? And then probably Dobbs. Over Judy, DJ Moore, and Mooney and Otten? I would, yes. All right. This is from Ken.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I'm currently starting Ayuk and Sutton. Should I bench one of them for James Robinson or A.J. Dillon? No. This is from Matthew. Should I trade Josh Jacobs and A.J. Brown for Justin Jefferson? Josh Jacobs and A.J. Brown for Justin Jefferson. Man Jacobs and A.J. Brown for Justin Jefferson. Man, you're giving up a lot. Let me tell you the rest of his running backs.
Starting point is 00:38:09 He has McCaffrey and Ken Walker, and he has Kenyon Drake, Gus Edwards, and both Carolina running backs. So he would only have two reliable running backs, McCaffrey and Ken Walker. Yeah, I would probably say no, just because as great as Justin Jefferson is, I think if A.J. Brown and they start to throw the ball
Starting point is 00:38:28 a little bit more, we'll not be that far behind. And so Josh Jacobs, talk about a guy I was wrong on. He's been an absolute monster. A hundred percent. Yeah, it's been great. From D Money in the city that has the biggest cockroaches. No thanks, man. And that's probably my house because they're all over the place.
Starting point is 00:38:49 12-team, three-wide receiver, half PPR league. I gave Gabe Davis and Aaron Rodgers. I got T Higgins and scooped up Tua. So we ended up going from Rodgers and Gabe Davis to Tua and T Higgins. I love it. A, B. Who would you rather have rest of season, Tua or Rogers? Tua.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yeah, and I just want to point out one more time about Tee Higgins. Their game plan last week was just not good for Higgins. He had his lowest ADOT by far of the season. It's one game, so I'm not making much of it, but you know the way teams have been playing them. I don't know that he is really... Whoa! What happened? Breaking news? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Oh, no! Dobbins is out four to six weeks. Uh... All right. Well, what a bummer. What a freaking bummer. You know how much J.K. Dobbins I have?
Starting point is 00:39:51 It's over for me. All right. What do you think here, Jamie? How could you not add Gus Edwards at this point? Yeah. 25% rostered. So I joked around with you and Dave on HQ today saying,
Starting point is 00:40:07 man, I can't wait to hear you guys on your Sunday show say, how much fab should we be spending on Gus Edwards after he has the best game against the Browns? Yeah, go get Gus Edwards now if you can. Adam is furiously searching through his leagues right now. He's taken in all my leagues. But what about the other guys? How would you prioritize the Ravens
Starting point is 00:40:24 running backs right now? If I'm looking long-term, it would be Edwards 1, Drake 2, Justice Hill 3, Mike Davis. If I'm looking short-term, it would be Drake 1, Edwards 2, Justice Hill 3, Mike Davis. And do you think this will be a good running back situation? It normally is, but it wasn't last year. Yeah, I mean, do you think this is clearly better than the Panthers?
Starting point is 00:40:53 But, you know, is this one that you really want to get some share of? Is this one where I really want to get some shares of? I mean, look, go back to where we were last year when Dobbins first tore his ACL and then Gus Edwards was that guy right before the start of the season. Remember that? Oh, I took him in the fourth round
Starting point is 00:41:13 in a full PPR league. Yep. But I don't know that it's the same Gus Edwards. Agree. I'm just saying, like, you know, this was the guy we were counting on and this was the guy that, remember the Ravens, I believe they gave him a contract extension. If I'm not mistaken.
Starting point is 00:41:29 So I think there's a chance. Put it this way. I think Gus Edwards would be the equivalent of, you know, someone who changes their underwear regularly. Daniel Drake is the equivalent of someone who wears the same underwear time and time again. You kind of know what you're getting, but you want to be a little bit fresh and clean. That's probably the fresh and clean. What a great analogy.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I couldn't put any better myself. Uh, and yeah, I, I just hope it's better than Devante Freeman and Latavious Murray last year. That's all. I would imagine in the,
Starting point is 00:42:04 in the short term, they're going to use both guys, but we're going to probably get the Saturday transaction of Gus Edwards is off the pup list and we'll be ready to play against the Browns. So could Drake be better rest of season? Yes. But again, just go back to where we were with Drake
Starting point is 00:42:21 at the start of the season. He played, he was supposed to be the guy. Remember the first two weeks of the season, 11 carries for 31 yards at the jets, six carries for eight yards against the dolphins. Yeah. And then he had one great performance against the giants. So let me play the,
Starting point is 00:42:39 would you drop for Gus Edwards game? Would you drop for Gus Edwards, Chuba Hubbard and Deontay Foreman? Yes? Would you drop for Gus Edwards, Chuba Hubbard, and Deontay Foreman? Yes. Would you drop Alexander Madison? I would for this week because there's not going to be a mad rush for Alexander Madison. So, yes.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Okay. Would you drop A.J. Dillon? No. But I'm an A.J. Dillon fan. Would you drop Isaiah Pacheco? Would I drop Isaiah Pacheco? Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:15 He's 49% rostered. Chase Edmonds for Gus Edwards. Chase Edmonds for Gus Edwards. Yes. Antonio Gibson. Yes. 76% rostered. Michael Carter, 65%.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Yes. All right. Okay. I can finish up with your emails here. We've got just a few more from Trevor. Yeah, Trevor wants to know, Kareem Hunt or Bryan Robinson PPR? Kareem Hunt or Bryan Robinson PPR?
Starting point is 00:43:52 I'm in the minority, but I think Bryan Robinson scores this week. Chris wants to know who to start, Geno Smith or Tua? He's looking for upside. He faced the Cardinals DST. Geno if Lockett plays. We haven't seen an update on Lockett, right?
Starting point is 00:44:08 I haven't seen that, no. They practice late. Gino, if Lockett plays too, if he doesn't? Yes. Nicky in Sturgeon County, Canada, A. I hope you enjoyed my impression. I did on the other day. I did a Canadian. I just said A. Ste hope you enjoyed my impression. I did on the other day. I did a Canadian. I just said
Starting point is 00:44:27 A. Stealth, Beast, and Turbo. Those are modes. Stealth, Beast, and Turbo is who? Modes. Stealth mode, Beast mode. Gotcha. Half PPR, I need two wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Alec Pierce, Jerry, Judy, Brandon cooks, and Michael Gallup. Pick two. Alec Pierce and Michael Gallup. Okay. YouTube.
Starting point is 00:44:53 It's your time to shine is just to repeat here is Drake or Gus Edwards. The guy. Um, I would say Drake long-term. I mean, I'm sorry. I would say Edwards long-term. Uh, I'm sorry. I would say Edwards long term. How about full PPR, Boyd or Jeff Wilson?
Starting point is 00:45:11 Boyd. Pick two, Wanda Robinson, Brandon Cooks, and Cortland Sutton. Cooks and Sutton. What if Russell Wilson's out? Cooks and Sutton. What if Russell Wilson's out? Cooks and Sutton. Would you drop Jahan Dotson for Gus Edwards? Yes. Would you drop Judy for Alec Pierce?
Starting point is 00:45:38 Yes. Full PPR, would you play McCaffrey or Raheem Mostert? I would play McCaffrey. Wilson's going to be a game-time decision. Lame. More like lame-time decision. Russell's going to be game-time decision. Who would you start at flex?
Starting point is 00:45:57 Lazard, Mostert, Gus Edwards, or Claypool? Lazard. Pick two in PPR, Boyd, Jeff Wilson, or Tyler Lockett? Lockett and Boyd. One wide receiver in a flex, half PPR. Wide receiver Brandon Ayuk, Deontay Johnson, or Christian Kirk? Half PPR. Brandon...
Starting point is 00:46:20 Brandon Ayuk. Najee Harris or Kirk or Deontay Johnson at flex? Najee. Start Alec Pierce or Travis Etienne in full PPR? Etienne. Start three of these. Aaron Jones, Ramondre Stevenson, Ken Walker, and Brees Hall. I'm benching Stevenson if Harris is active,
Starting point is 00:46:43 and we won't know that until Monday, so I would play the three other guys. Okay, fair enough. A few more here. Kelvin, Kenyon, Drake, or Melvin Gordon? I combined Kenyon and Melvin there. Drake. Why do we get these same questions over and over?
Starting point is 00:47:04 Alec Pierce or George Pickens? Pierce. Hawkinson or Ingram? Ingram. Jeff Wilson, Kareem Hunt, or Chuba Hubbard? PPR, half PPR. Hunt. Well, you really don't like Jeff Wilson.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Well, I mean... Well, what if McCaffrey doesn't play? You might have heard. What if McCaffrey doesn't play you might have heard what if McCaffrey doesn't play McCaffrey doesn't play then I would go Wilson are the Eagles DST worth using my number one waiver wire
Starting point is 00:47:34 priority on if it is rolling waivers yes yeah they're pretty damn good they give you a pretty nice edge Um, if it is rolling waivers, yes. Yeah, they're pretty damn good. They give you a pretty nice edge. ETN, Juju, or Dobbs? Uh, ETN. Pat Frymuth or Gerald Everett, rest of season?
Starting point is 00:47:59 Frymuth. Would you drop Garrett Wilson for Gus Edwards? Yes. And Higby or Hawkinson rest of season? Higby. Would you drop Jeff Wilson for Damian Harris? Yes. Last one.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Hayden Hurst or Evan Ingram? Ingram. That's it for the show, everybody. Thank you so much. How do you feel about Saquon recruiting Odell Beckham back to the Giants? Would you like a Beckham reunion? Is he doing that? Yeah, I saw a tweet about that, yes.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I do not want a Beckham reunion. No. What? I mean, Beckham is for teams like the Rams that are 3-3. We're 5-1. We don't need Odell Beckham. Come on. I mean, he went to the Rams and got them to the Super Bowl. I don't know what he has left in the tank at this point.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Look at your receiving core. He's coming off so many injuries and now a torn ACL in February. For a half-year rental. No, I think it's too much of a distraction. I think it all becomes about Odell Beckham. What? He wasn't a distraction with the Rams? No, I don't mean that.
Starting point is 00:49:11 It's not his fault. I think the media would be so annoying and just all about Beckham. Are you going to get Beckham more involved? Beckham, Beckham. I just don't think they need that. How awesome would it be that Odell Beckham comes back and you win the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:49:24 and Beckham takes a boat around the Hudson River with middle fingers raised to the sky and said, see? Yeah, I would sign up for that vision. No, I'd much rather... You'd wear your onesie again? Yeah, that's the thing. I do have a Beckham jersey and so does my daughter. She wears it all the time. So that would be good in that regard. All right. Well, thank you, Jamie. And thank you all for watching and listening. And we will
Starting point is 00:49:51 talk to you on Sunday morning with a news update. Will you be wearing the same underwear, then? I'm thinking no, but I can't guarantee it. By the way, I did place a bet $10 on the first score of the Broncos-Jets game to be a Broncos field goal, plus 310. So I will spend the $31 even before the game starts on that topic.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Good luck, everybody. We'll talk to you over the weekend. We'll talk to you Sunday morning. See ya.

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