Fantasy Football Today - Justify It! Plus Stefon Diggs Will be Released (03/05 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

We start the show previewing free agency and reacting to news (5:30) of the impending release of Stefon Diggs. How much does he have left in the tank? Who do we want to see replace him in New England...? We've got other news items as well ... Looking back at last month's 3-WR, PPR mock draft, the guys have to justify their picks! Dave (18:30) justifies De'Von Achane over Amon-Ra St. Brown plus Cam Skattebo over proven wide receivers. Jamey (28:00) justifies going RB/RB with his first two picks and selecting Christian Watson over some solid tight ends ... Heath (41:00) justifies Drake London over Trey McBride and Quinshon Judkins over Breece Hall. Adam (49:05) justifies his own pick of Hall and stocking his team with bounceback candidates like Courtland Sutton and Lamar Jackson ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:03 What a play! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. The news is rolling in. The Patriots are going to release Stefan Diggs. Darnel Mooney's going to get released. We had a big trade involving the Chiefs and the Rams.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And we're going to talk about it right now on fantasy football today, but also looking at a mock draft from a few weeks ago, we're going to make these guys justify it. Looking at some picks that were, I don't know, controversial, questionable, difficult decisions. You got to justify it. Welcome, Jamie. What's up? How are you guys?
Starting point is 00:01:52 I think I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. You know, we've got a big week coming up. It's exciting. It's exciting. Yeah. I feel like there's some more crazy things coming forth. in the next week. It's going to be a lot of fun reactions
Starting point is 00:02:05 next week. I did a radio show last night in San Francisco and the host asked me what's the most exciting move we should anticipate. Yeah. Okay. I was going to ask a similar question, but I guess he's just better than I am. Well, I mean, you seem to be following a lot of people recently about things that other people post and do. You know, someone posted a very similar quarterback question about which Which quarterback would you want on your NFL team?
Starting point is 00:02:34 But did not include who? Kyler, I think. Gino, because nobody cares about Gina. I think did not include Kyler. No, Kyler was there. Maybe not Malik Willis, whatever it was. It was definitely Malik Millis. Malik Willis won the post.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I don't think Kyler was there. I don't know. Anyway, what was your answer, Jamie? To his post? No. No, to the question. To the question. Oh, the most exciting move?
Starting point is 00:02:58 I said, Kyler. I don't know if exciting is the right word. I'm real curious. to see where Malik Willis goes and how big of a bag he gets. So that was my answer to who's going to be like the big prize out there in terms of like getting paid maybe more than they should. Because obviously if he's going to go to a team that stinks, they're going to have to overpay him like the Jets.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I'm really thinking we're going to get the same thing with Alec Pierce. Like the reaction to Alec Pierce's contract is going to be absolutely bonkers. I think if it gets bonkers, is if he stays because like they're going to have to overpay him to keep him I think he's getting overpaid no matter what probably the way it is yeah isn't it strange that I did a poll that said you know pick one of these four quarterbacks Kyler Malik Willis Tua and Gino Smith and Kylo and Kyler got 54% of the vote Malik Willis got 38% of the vote Jamie was referring to Joe Shad who covers the dolphins now and he said if you had to take one quarterback which QB would you
Starting point is 00:04:04 choose and he had Kyler and he had Malik Willis on there. He also had Daniel Jones and he had Tua. I didn't have Daniel Jones. I did have Tua. Anyway, my poll, Kyler Murray got 54%. His poll, his poll, he got 17%. And Malik Willis got 41%. In my poll, he got 38%. Just weird. That would be that fantasy guys versus Dolphins fans. I mean, the majority of our audience are people who are dialed in to fantasy football. They know Kyler from his fantasy exploits. So I would imagine that Kyla would get a big reaction on your poll, but not necessarily on a poll that's voted on by a lot of dolphins. He's a national guy previously. He's got 240,000 followers. I totally know who Joe Shed is. I'm very familiar, but was the poll on X or on his Palm Beach Post site? X. Okay. Still, you're going to have a lot of
Starting point is 00:04:55 dolphins fans voting on that poll and fewer fantasy people voting on that poll. Well, in his dolphin, in his poll, Tua got 20% of the vote. compared to 5% in mine. So I don't know what that says. All right, anyway. That's proof of what I'm talking about. Maybe, but also Daniel Jones was in his poll and not in mind. So that was different. All right, anyway, news and notes, the Patriots are going to release Stefan Diggs.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And, yeah, that's the leading receiver for Drake May. Surprisingly, you know, to play 17 games and have 102 targets, which was the most on the team, just kind of a weird team. They didn't throw that much. But he had 85 catches, 1,013 yards, four touchdowns, which is very low for 102 targets.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Stefan Diggs was the number 25 wide receiver per game in PPR, 29th and half PPR, 33rd in full PPR. Heath, your reaction? Sure seems like the Patriots are going to go spin big either via trade or free agency on a new wide receiver one. I'll probably be more excited about, almost certainly be more excited about whoever that is than Stefan Diggs wherever he goes.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Okay. Jamie, your thoughts? I agree. I think this is one of the perfect destinations for Alec Pierce. I think we discussed that on a previous day. You know, talking about a wide receiver who makes plays down the field, and Drake May does a good job of finding his receivers down the field. So it's a easy match if it were to come to fruition.
Starting point is 00:06:38 But they're going to be in on AJ Brown if they could somehow manage to make a trade. And I'm sure there's probably a guy or two who's out there that they have some fallback options for and the draft as well. Darno Mooney's free now. He'll be of interest to some teams. Mike Evans, Tyree Kill, you know, if those guys decide that New England's a place that they want to go play. but Juan Jennings, you know, there's going to be a lot of probably this receiver going to New England to replace the Diggs. Is there a place that you want to see Stefan Dix go? Are you still interested at him as a top 30 wide receiver? Dave, two questions there. You can answer him both.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I don't know if he'll be a top 30 wide receiver no matter where he goes. I don't think he can be an NFL team's number one guy anymore, but a supporting player. We saw him get off to a good start sort of doing that in Houston. for half a year in 2024. If he's linked up with a great quarterback and an explosive offense and he's not the number one guy, then sure. I'd be I'd be interested in Saffan Diggs in the middle of a draft. But the days of him being even like a fourth round, fifth round, sixth round pick, I think that's done. I definitely agree with the latter. I wonder if like this is the 49ers guy.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And I don't, I don't. Do they want somebody who could be a headache? Um, probably not, but, you know, I would imagine one of 32 teams going to take a chance on him. And, you know, again, similar to New England, this is a team that needs wide receivers. So does he end up in a spot where he can still command 100 plus targets? I don't know if there is a team out there that would, to your point, and I agree with it, you know, that's going to view him as a number one guy. But that's a wide receiver room right now that is completely barren outside of Ricky Pearson. And he can't stay healthy.
Starting point is 00:08:29 So I'm just trying to think of like spots where it makes sense that he can still be fantasy relevant. So totally agree with everything you said about where he should be drafted and et cetera, not being the number one guy. But does he have a chance to maybe end up in either a high-powered offense, which would be good, you know, from a quarterback perspective or, you know, a chance to be a number one guy. Let Heath get in there. We definitely, like there's an obvious best answer for what we do. Let's send him to Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:08:58 and Aaron Rogers goes back there. Aaron Rogers and Stefan Diggs for a full season. It'd be fantastic. Tyreek also? Yeah, the thing about, like, Diggs is going to, is 32, he's going to turn 33 in November 29th. He had a thousand-yard season at age 31 coming off at torn ACL. I mean, it's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And he was always, until the playoffs, basically, always limited in his routes. He had a 68.3% ruts. participation rate, which is really low for a guy who played 17 games and, you know, led the team in receiving. But he played five games all year with an 80% route participation rate or higher. And two of them were in the playoffs against, I want to say Houston and the Chargers, maybe. And he struggled in those games. The weather was bad in one of them and Drake May was struggling, whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:53 But in the three regular season games, the only three regular season games in which Stefan Diggs ran 80, 80% or more of the routes. He went over 100 yards in all three games. He was one of the most efficient wide receivers in the NFL. And I was pretty enticed by that, but now when I look at it, I really think it comes down to one stat for him. And that was his catch rate, 83% catch rate, astronomical, not repeatable. It's not like he was, you know, burning guys. But I want to give him to get open.
Starting point is 00:10:24 He can still get open. He reminds me a lot of Cooper Cup from two years. ago with the Rams, like not that fast anymore, but very crafty. But what happened to Cooper Cup the following year? You know, guys get older. This is the same age year now for Diggs. Diggs a year younger than Cup. Anyway, I just wanted to give him credit for having this kind of a year coming off a torn ACL,
Starting point is 00:10:44 not really playing that much at that age was very impressive. And maybe he'll be better because he's a year removed, another year removed from the injury. I mean, look, you could see New Orleans. They need receiver help. You can see Tennessee. They need receiver help. You could see Raiders. They need receiver help.
Starting point is 00:11:03 These are all teams that make a lot of sense where he could still be relatively fantasy relevant. But again, you know, you just have to know what you're getting. You're getting an older receiver. You're getting a guy that's not going to be the focal point of the passing attack, most likely. And so, you know, you just have to understand that it's not the same stuff on Dix. Okay. And then finally, just pick one wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:11:27 That could potentially be available. Not George Pickens. It doesn't seem like that's going to happen. To go to the Patriots, who would be your favorite? That would be Alec Pierce. Not Mike Evans or Tyreek or anything. I'd rather. It's probably A.C. Brown, right?
Starting point is 00:11:40 Oh, yeah. A.J. Brown will be the prize. Okay, who after? I'll take Evans over Pierce. Why? Yeah. I'm not sure that Pierce is, well, he's not a complete receiver. I don't know that he can be.
Starting point is 00:11:57 he's the best deep ball receiver in the NFL. I think Evans is a Hall of Famer. Alec Pierce has won 1,000-yard season. Mike Evans has every year of his career except last year. I get it. If you're worried about paying Alex Pearson, you don't want to pay him a ton of money, and you just want a one-year rental,
Starting point is 00:12:17 Evans would be that guy. And then you just hope that he can stay healthy for 17 games. I don't know if there's another, like, great receiver out there. We don't know how healthy Tyreek Hill is. If the doctors sign off on Tyreek and they think he can get back to 90% of what he was, then maybe you go down that path. But that's kind of a big maybe. And I don't know if I really want to replace Stefan Diggs with Wondell Robinson when I have to pay Wondale Robinson,
Starting point is 00:12:45 what he's going to end up probably getting on the open market. That's also going to be maybe not as shocking as we thought it would be. We're just talking about New England. Yeah. Who do you want to be their wide receiver one? Yeah, I mean, I would probably rather just have a bit more having success there. Oh, DJ Moore would be a good one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:05 All right. The Rams. These aren't amazing options. I almost want them. Can I say that they just trade up in the draft for one of the top receiver prospects? Sure. Then that's what I would want to do if I'm New England. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:19 The Rams acquired Trent McDuffie from the Chiefs, an all-pro cornerback. They gave up a first round. pick, a fifth and a sixth in this upcoming draft, and a third round pick in 2027. And the Chiefs, you know, they're going to definitely have a new look secondary this upcoming season. But a big move here by the Rams. The Falcons released Darnell Mooney, two very, very different seasons in Atlanta. 2024, he had 992 yards and five touchdowns in 16 games.
Starting point is 00:13:50 2025, Mooney had 443 yards, half of what he had the year before. per game in 15 games. Rashid Shaheed expected to test free agency. The Chargers released tight end wheel Disley. The Bucks are going to allow Sean Tucker to become an unrestricted free agent. That'll be fun. See where he ends up. 4.3 yards per carry on 151 carries in his career for Sean Tucker.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Aaron Rogers... That's like a perfect guy to replace David Montgomery. Yeah. Aaron Rogers... Why is a good job? Rogers hasn't decided on what he'll do this season and the Steelers are releasing Johnny Smith. Here's a fun stat for you.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Johnny Smith and Pat Friarmouth had the same amount of targets last year. Friamuth had three more catches. 264 more yards and two more touchdowns. 264 more yards of John Newsman. John Smith had a really bad year. I don't know how to explain it, but basically career lows in every situation. statistical category for Johnny Smith.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Not every, but close to it. Let's see. The Packers re-signed running backs Chris Brooks. Running back, Chris Brooks. He's just one person, even though he has an S at the end of his last name. The Panthers placed the exclusive rights tender on Jalen Koker. The Vikings will release Jonathan Allen, a defensive tackle. That's the second defensive tackle they're going to release.
Starting point is 00:15:15 They had such a great defense. They are getting rid of some players, hopefully not too impactful. and the Giants are going to release linebacker Bobby O'Caricay, who could end up in a better spot and be really good in IDP, which he has been in the past. He was great for the Giants, then they changed off defensive coordinators didn't really fit for O'Caricay.
Starting point is 00:15:36 But if you're an IDP person, O'Kareke could be a bounceback guy. He's been a big-time tackle machine in a couple seasons. All right, we have a lot of other podcasts for you. Check them out at cbsports.com slash podcast. We're going to take a break, and when we come back, justify it. Dave took Devon A-chan over the super safe Amman Ross St. Brown and C.D. Lamb.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Why did he do that? What a weirdo. What a weirdo. All right, we'll be right back. Let's justify it. And everybody can chime in here. But we did this 12-team PPR, 3-wide receiver mock draft a few weeks ago. And I didn't think you guys made any really bad picks or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:16:15 So this wasn't the easiest assignment here. But, yeah, Dave, you took Dev, A-chan in the first round. in a three-receiver league over Amon Rae St. Brown and C.D. Lamb. St. Brown, three straight years averaging 18.5 to 20.8 PPR fantasy points. I think what I would challenge you on is how confident are you in Devon A. Chan's production where we don't know who his quarterback will be, where he had, it was only two games, but he had about a 12% target share with Quinn Ewers compared to 24% with Tua. And, you know, you're talking about the lion's offense, which is perennially one of the best in the NFL versus the Dolphins offense, which, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:00 So justify it, A. Chan over St. Brown. St. Brown more so than Lamb, but both. Right. I mean, let's just get Lamb out of the way. His production wasn't as high as it was. I think we talked about this earlier in the off season. We're kind of clinging to that 2023 season with CD Lamb. And we saw it.
Starting point is 00:17:17 It was 16.6 p.pr points per game on 9.4. point seven targets per game in his first two games of the year. And then week seven through 17, George Pickens was on the field for a bunch of those games. That's still really good for fantasy. It's not good for like the early middle part of round one, which was where I was picking. St. Brown, you said it. He's safer.
Starting point is 00:17:37 He's been right around anywhere from 18.7 to 20 p.r points per game. I feel like the ceiling is a little bit higher for Devon A. Chan. I went back and looked at how consistent both these guys were. And they were both incredibly consistent for their positions, four fantasy managers, 15 plus points per game, and an overwhelming majority of their games, A-chan had a little bit of an edge there. Bobby Sloak is the new play caller in Miami.
Starting point is 00:17:59 We saw him target Joe Mixon a bunch in 2024. It was a bad year for the Texans. It was a really good year for Joe Mixon. He had double digits and touchdowns. He had a ton of work. I would imagine that Devon A-chan, after what he's shown us over the last three years, will continue to see a lot of work,
Starting point is 00:18:14 whether it's Tua or anybody else a quarterback. But on top of all that, I was much more comfortable with the receivers that I thought would be available in round two than the running backs that would be available in round two. And that's always been a little tiebreaker for me with when I'm close between two players. And it is close between A-chan and St. Brown. And I wouldn't blame you for going with a Munra, St. Brown, over A-chan. But I wanted to have A-chan and the higher ceiling over St. Brown and the safety,
Starting point is 00:18:43 especially knowing that I could find a good receiver in round two. Heath, do you agree with Dave's decision to take A-chan over St. Brown and Lamb? I think Lamb for sure. St. Brown, I have A. Chan right now projected to score more points than a Monroh, St. Brown, even in full PPR. I think I talked about it a couple weeks ago that as great as A. Chan was last year, he was still held down by the fact that the dolphins ran so few plays and had so little offensive success. And so there is a ceiling above what he did last year. But I think all of the uncertainty, and we'll talk about this with just about every one of these decisions,
Starting point is 00:19:22 all of the uncertainty around Miami's offense at this point is at least a little bit concerning. And if they don't make significant upgrades and it's Quinn U.S. playing quarterback, then I think there'd be a reason to get a little less comfortable with H.N. And so State Browns would be the safer pick. Agreed. Jamie, I'm going to throw a little love to C.D. Lamb here because I feel like he's being sort of dismissed in this discussion, which I myself did. But let's just, I think the argument is, well,
Starting point is 00:19:50 they've got George Pickens, this and that. So let's just look at Week 7 through 17, because Lamb played weeks one and two, and he went over 100 yards, 110, 112 yards of both games. He played like one snap in week three, whatever. Then he missed some time. Week 7 through 17, C.D. Lamb was on pace for 156 targets, 99 catches, which I think is probably a fairly,
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah, 63% catch rate. You probably expect better than that. 1,447 yards, but only five touchdowns. I still think that's really, like, you tell me we're getting 9 to 10, we're getting nine to 10 targets a game, 9.2. We're getting almost 1,450 yards season, and I think you can do even better because you get more catches. I don't know. I still think he belongs in that discussion, I guess. But anyway, your thoughts on this?
Starting point is 00:20:43 I don't. unfortunately, if Pickens is there. And we've had one great second half of a season from CD-LAM where he was elite, and elite being best in the NFL elite. And then we've had a pretty strong sample size of him being a very good number one fantasy receiver. I don't know if he has consistent 18 plus point per game numbers.
Starting point is 00:21:11 With the team. Sorry, you cut out a little bit there. Were you done? I don't think he has consistent 18 plus point per game production consistently anymore with Pickens on the roster. So you have to factor in. Dak had an amazing season last year. He has not had back-to-back amazing seasons, I think in the last six or seven years because of either injury or just poor production. I think mostly injury.
Starting point is 00:21:40 So I'm hoping it's not a scenario of. of DAC missing anytime. But if Pickens gets a long-term extension off the franchise tag or plays out without any holdout, then I'm a little concerned about CD-Land being in this conversation. He's still a borderline first-round pick. He's still obviously a top-told fantasy-wide receiver. But I don't think he has the potential to get to where A-chan or St. Brown can get to.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Okay. Dave, justify it. Cam Scad, now forget about this draft took place before the Giants were being linked to Ken Walker and Jeremiah Love and all that. You took Cam Scadaboo over T. Higgins and A.J. Brown, that was in the middle of round three. I think, look, AJ Brown's had two disappointing seasons in a row, and he has finished as wide receiver 13 and wide receiver 12 per game in those two seasons. It is worth noting that wide receiver 12 per game last year, two fantasy points fewer than when he finished as wide receiver 13 per game in 2024. So even though the finish was the same, the production was much worse.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Higgins was wide receiver five per game two years ago. And in five games with Joe Burrow last year, he averaged 15.2 PPR fantasy points per game, which is really good. You chose Cam Scataboo over that, the provenness, I guess I would say, of Brown and Higgins. Justify it. Let's just remember the context of where these players were two weeks ago. when you talked about it was Scataboo, and we thought that there was a chance that
Starting point is 00:23:13 that AJ Brown would get traded. And there's still a chance that AJ Brown gets traded. We'll see. This was another example of chasing upside and taking a player who has a higher ceiling over two guys that feel pretty safe, somewhere around 14 PPR points per game. I think Higgins has proven that over his career. You've got the outlier year where he was awesome. That was 2024.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Pretty much every other year he's been right around 14 PPR points per game. And then I think we view A.J. Brown similarly where he's maybe even higher than 14 ppr points per game, probably in that neighborhood of 16. Can he get back there again? It depends on where he's playing, how many targets he gets, et cetera. But Cam Scadaboo, we saw it last year. He played 30 or more snaps between weeks two through seven, and he had over 19 ppr points per game. If he's the lead back in New York and if he's participating in training camp, I think the doors open for him, maybe not to get 19. that's high, but 17, 16 and a half. We know he can catch the ball.
Starting point is 00:24:13 We know he's a monster at a goal line. Of course, he has to stay healthy. But to me, it felt like there was a drain of running backs with that type of upside when I was up in round three. So I wanted to grab one while I could, again, knowing that I could find a wide receiver, all right, maybe not AJ Brown's upside, but certainly in that neighborhood of upside that T. Higgins has in rounds four and five in our draft. Heath, do you feel like Higgins and A.J. Brown?
Starting point is 00:24:39 have maybe more upside than Dave considers? I think A.J. Brown, well, Higgins does if Chase gets hurt. Okay, yeah. I think if Chase stays healthy, then A.J. Brown has at least as much upside as Camp Scadaboo. And that could come to realization by staying in Philadelphia. That could come from playing with Drake May or in another good situation. The funny thing is, like you kind of presented as his floor. I'm not sure with Higgins injury history, you can really draft him as a floor guy.
Starting point is 00:25:16 And I don't think with AJ Brown's current uncertainty, you can necessarily say what his floor is either. So it kind of feels like none of these three players right now are necessarily a floor pick. I think I'd take Brown ahead of Scataboo and Scataboo ahead of Higgins. But as Dave said, there's a lot of ifs with drafting Cam Scataboo right now. If he's the number one running back for the Giants, if he's fully healthy, the start of training camp. That probably means we should downgrade him even a little bit more this time of year. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Jamie, why don't we just go to your justify it's here? Ready? Sure. You had the 12th pick in the draft. We have a 12-team PPR, 3-wide receiver league. And you went running back, running back. Coming off a year where wide receiver was really lousy.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And maybe we go into this year thinking, it's not, you know, you might want to get one early. You decided to go with James Cook and Omari and Hampton. You had Drake London, Malik Neighbors, Justin Jefferson, and Rishie Rice on the board. So justify it, running back, running back with your first two picks at 12 and 13. First off, I always like to try different strategies in these drafts when we're doing it this early. And these are two players that I'm very excited about. Obviously, James Cook, we know what he's capable of doing.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I think he'll be even better with Joe Brady as the head coach because this is a guy that's unleashed. his potential. Hopefully he's a little bit more involved in the passing game, but I think you know what his upside is. There's top five upside there. And I think there's top five upside for Amarion Hampton as well, looking at Mike McDaniel, who in his first season, as the Dolphins head coach, had his running back at 30 years old, lead the NFL in rushing touchdowns, retired for the lead in NFL and rushing touchdowns with Rahim Mostert, scoring 18 and over 20 total touchdowns, and then comes back the next two years and gets amazing production out of Devon A-chan. So now he's got this offense, which personnel-wise might be better than what he had in Miami in some cases,
Starting point is 00:27:12 certainly at the quarterback spot. I think Justin Herbert's a little bit better than to a tongue of Iloa. If the offensive line stays healthy, I think there's huge potential for Hampton. So these are two guys, I think, that are borderline first-round picks, which is why I took him at the turn. And if I was probably doing this in August and knowing it's a three-receiver league and knowing that Drake London has a safe quarterback, that's probably the player I would have taken along with one of these running backs,
Starting point is 00:27:40 depending on what their offensive looks like as well. But this was done by design. We wanted to see what it was like to go running back, running back, how the rest of the draft would check out, how the rest of my team would check out, and thrilled with the upside of what these two guys can do and how they should perform. So, Dave, if you were up at the 1213, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:59 the one-two turn here, and James Cook, Omarian Hampton, Trey McBride, Ashton Genty, But also, Drake London, Malik neighbors, Justin Jefferson, and Rishi Rice were on the board. Sequin Barclay, by the way, Nico Collins also available with Josh Jacobs. Good players at each position. Let's just say that. Plus, Tray McBride and Brock Bowers.
Starting point is 00:28:21 You can do whatever you want with these two picks. What would you have done there? Knowing that it's a three-receiver league and assuming that I'm also not experimenting, it would be one-in-one. I would take James Cook and my highest-rated wide receiver. I believe that would be Drake London. that would be the duo mostly just so I don't lock myself into avoiding running back value that might be there in rounds three and four and that I can open the door I could take I could go any way I want with my next well maybe even every pick I have but just not boxing myself
Starting point is 00:28:58 in by taking two running backs when Jamie was up in round three who was available at running back he could have had Quinn shot Juggins, Breece Hall, E.N was there. Those are some decent names that I wouldn't have minded having as my RB2 on my team. And he could have had Drake London instead of, let's call it Hampton, because I mean, I like Cook better than Hampton. I don't know how Jamie comes out on it. But bottom line is that you would have some more versatility with where you pick and what you pick with those next two selections. So Jamie, you ended up with Cook Hampton, McConkey, and Josh Allen at the three weeks. four turn, Marvin Harrison, Jr. and Christian Watson. So your wide receivers are McConkey,
Starting point is 00:29:45 Marvin Harrison Jr. and Christian Watson. I wonder, do you regret the Josh Allen pick and maybe getting a better number two wide receiver there and waiting on quarterback? Because, you know, you at 37th overall being the first guy to take a quarterback, do you regret that pick at all? I think you know me well enough anytime I take a quarterback too soon, I regret it immediately. But, you know, that's still very good value for Josh Allen. And he's not going to go this late in most drafts. We know that based on average draft position. But analyst drafts, quarterbacks go later even when there are six points for passing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:30:19 But look, it's obviously not ideal in a three receiver league to come out of your first four picks with one. I do love, and I know we're going to talk about the third guy, but I do love the upside of Marvin Harrison in, in a year where he should be healthy and what we saw from, you know, a pocket passer, you know, featuring the receiving core there and how good it was for Tray McBride and obviously how good it was for Michael Wilson.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And even in the two full healthy games for Marvin Harrison, you know, you want to throw in that Dallas game as well, or the Tampa Bay game, excuse me, where he looked amazing. There's plenty to like about what he can be entering year three of his career. So I'm okay with how it worked out. I know most people probably are upset about Ladd-McConkie coming off of year we was a bust, and Marvin Harrison being what he's, you know, or lack thereof of what he's shown in his first two seasons.
Starting point is 00:31:13 But I feel like I can make this work with two top 10 running backs, the number one quarterback or chance to be the number one quarterback, and then three receivers that I like a lot. Don't forget that you also took Alec Pierce. I don't know if we're going to be able to get Pierce where you got him in this draft moving forward. Dobbs figures to change teams. He's going to be a good bench receiver. So even if those receivers, the first three receivers don't pan out as far as like full season starters, you've got some other options that aren't bad. And I think that's what you have to kind of adopt as your game plan if you're going to go
Starting point is 00:31:49 running back, running back in the first two rounds into PPR league. Yeah, running back, running back. A few teams did it, you know, just looking at our FFT league last year. Marone took Jamir Gibbs and Kyron Williams. Robert Turbin, a running back, took Derek Henry and Jonathan Taylor. Wow, great value on Taylor. That's pretty good. And let's see, Tommy Tran took McCaffrey and Bucky Irving.
Starting point is 00:32:15 But it's not to say, like the guys who went after those running backs were Brock Bowers, A.J. Brown, Tyreek Hill. So I think they made good picks. All right. Let's go, Heath, just Heath, if you want to address real quick, like, is now the time to be much? I think we actually talked about this last year, but it seems like running back, running back is a more acceptable start than it used to be, even just a few years ago. It's definitely a more acceptable start. Whether it's the time to do that when it's more acceptable, I think is debatable, because as it gets more acceptable, more running backs get drafted earlier. True.
Starting point is 00:32:53 So you're taking from lower running back. to do that. Yeah, good point. All right. Second, justify it for Jamie. He's drafting Christian Watson in round six, and then going with a couple of tight ends late. I think you went with Kelsey and, oh, I'm sorry, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I have his team open. He's got Isaiah likely. Likely and Kelsey. Last pick of round 11, first pick of round 12. When you took Christian Watson, we did have Sam Laporta, a big run of tight ends, basically. We had Leporta, Tucker Kraft, Mark Andrews, Kyle Pitts, and George Kittle all off the board before your next pick.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And remember, Jamie's picking at the turn, so he had a long time to wait. But yeah, I don't know, Christian Watson over those tight ends, and then basically making a decision to not take a tight end at the beginning of round six and wait on the position and take Christian Watson. So interested to hear your answer after, take a quick commercial break.
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Starting point is 00:34:38 So, again, you know, playing out different strategies, and this is part of, I think, what happens when you take running backs early in the three-receiver league, you know, you start to, at least for me, you know, I want to stockpile receivers and get guys that, I think, have. upside. And so while two of those tight ends, Laporta and Kraft, I think you said those were two on the board. Yeah, they were. Huge upside, clearly. Leporto's coach, offense coordinator,
Starting point is 00:35:10 what's his name, Juan Petzik? You know, he does a great job with tight ends, as we're all aware. and craft was amazing last year and may benefit even with the just departure of Romeo Dobbs but clearly showed that he was the breakout tight end that we were talking about. I just wanted to make sure I had my receiving core sort of built out a little bit. And Dave mentioned a couple guys that I took a little bit later that factors into that as well. So it was basically, okay, do I commit to – this was round six.
Starting point is 00:35:43 So do I commit to quarterback and tight end in the first six picks? Or do I build out my receiving core a little bit more? So I loved what I saw from Christian Watson when he was healthy last year. You know, you talk about Stefan Diggs coming back from his ACL tear and how he performed. I thought Watson was amazing at times. And he may benefit with Dobbs being gone and Kraft being a little bit slow in his recovery. So I think Heath will probably agree with this. Like this is the type of third receiver that you win fantasy leagues with because while the week to week production may be a little bit disappointing, when he hits,
Starting point is 00:36:16 he puts you in a potential stratosphere that can easily help you dominate your opponent. So I love these type of guys. I have the ability to, you know, pivot to a Pierce or to a Dobbs, depending on where they sign. Or, you know, in the case of Harrison potentially struggling or McConkey as well. But I just think like this is the range of draft where I like to shoot for as much upside as possible. And I think Christian Watson has that. Heath, Christian Watson, in his last seven games, he had a 23.5% target share. Really, I don't think you would associate that with Christian Watson.
Starting point is 00:36:56 But you know what? That was a pace of 105 targets. So what do you think the target upside is for Christian Watson? He could make 120 is probably too high. So maybe he could maintain that pace. or have a couple more, maybe 110 for Christian Watson. It's just, it's so hard when we've got this extended history now of the LaFleur offense and not having a wide receiver see often even 100 targets within a given season
Starting point is 00:37:32 to expect that to change this year, especially in the context of Christian Watson's career where he's played four seasons and his career high in targets is 66 and 14 games. So I don't, I think this is solely, like I agree with Jamie about this is the type of guy you want in your wide receiver three role, especially if you started with two running backs and then also took a quarterback early. I think for me, the struggle I'm going to have is I'm probably going to be significantly higher on Leporta and Pitts than a lot of people are. I think they fit perfectly in that tier with Loveland and Fannin and Warren and the hopes that we have for the upside and the upside. and craft. And so if some of these guys are going early in round four and some of them are available in round six, I'm going to be a really hard time if I don't have a tight end yet passing on Leporta and Pitts and Kraft in round six.
Starting point is 00:38:28 All right, Heath. I hope you're ready to do some justifications. Oh, yeah. I've been preparing for this ever since I saw your notes. Hey, I emailed you early this morning. I know, that's what I'm saying. Okay, okay. It's the whole day. Justify it. You took Drake London ahead of
Starting point is 00:38:45 Trey McBride in the second round, early in the second round. Drake London, first three games, what a weird year he had. First three games, 49 to 55 yards. Bust, he stinks. Next six games for Drake London, 104 or more yards in five of those six games.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And 18.9 or more fantasy points in five of six games. He was rolling. Then he got hurt. He came back. Last three games, he was terrible. He had 109 yards. and a touchdown on 18 targets in three games.
Starting point is 00:39:14 You took Trey McBride over him. Again, certainly not saying that was the wrong decision. I thought I took Drake London over Trey McBride. You did. You took Drake London ahead of Trey McBride. That's what I said. I was getting ready to have to reverse all of the arguments that I had prepared. Yeah, how can you take Drake London over a guy who just had one of the best tight-end seasons we've ever seen?
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah, I think, again, we're back to that uncertainty with how much of Trey McBride. Bride's involvement in the offense was based on his talent, how much of it was based on Drew Petzing, and who is going to be the quarterback? I think there's a significant volume drop probably for the passing game for Arizona this year, assuming they're not going to stick with Jacoby Brissette, which it doesn't sound like they are. If it's Malik Willis, what we saw in Green Bay was that when he started a quarterback, the team threw very little.
Starting point is 00:40:06 He was really efficient with it, but it was a low-pass volume offense. Brissette was the exact opposite last year, and McBride and Michael Wilson both were amongst the league leaders and the percentage of their fantasy points that came during garbage time because Jacoby Brissette just threw the ball all over the field when they were down multiple scores. And so I think there's a real risk that Trey McBride loses multiple targets per game. And as we talked about on yesterday's show, I believe, Trey McBride hasn't really ever been hyper-efficient. He's very, very good, but he's not having, he's averages right around 7.5 yards per target, and he has one season with a good touchdown rate. So I just, I don't think we should chase last year's tray McBride points. Yeah, who is Drake London, though, right?
Starting point is 00:40:56 That's kind of. Well, it's, well, last year was really weird. The last two years, he's averaged 74.8 and 76.6.6 receiving yards per game. Yeah. Like, I think you're getting a guy that's going to average 75 yards per game. And he has quarterback questions as of his own. Yeah, I certainly feel like he's been better with Pennix than cousins. I don't think, I don't really expect him to be catching passes from either one.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Right. Man, he's a bit of a tricky one. All right, so Heath took London over McBride, three-receiver PPR League. I took McBride with the next pick. Dave, who would you have taken, London or McBride? I think I would have taken London for very similar reasons to why Heath said. I don't even know if there's anything else I need to put on top of it. There's the obvious uncertainty at quarterback in Arizona and don't know exactly what type of offense it'll be.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I don't think it's going to be the type of situation where Trey McBride's targets go from over nine per game to six per game. I think that would be preposterous. But I could see a dip in targets to eight per game for McBride, whereas London at 9.3, each of the last. two years. And a thought that I kind of had while we were talking, we know that Stefanski loves utilizing tight ends, and we've talked about that. It's a great reason to like Kyle Pitts. But Drake London attacks that same area of the field for the most part. And I wonder if that will be even more of a focus for Stefansky, knowing that he's got this big-bodied, rangey target in Drake London, who can make plays after the catch, has a humongous catch radius,
Starting point is 00:42:37 doesn't quite have the same type of injury history as Kyle Pitts, doesn't make as many mistakes as Kyle Pitts. I think he's going to benefit from Sopansky being the play caller as well. Jamie, give me 15 seconds at most. For the head coach. The Brider, London. I would probably go London, but I mean, the same argument for both guys.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Quarterback situation is uncertain. Coaching change is there for both. They're both extremely productive and amazing when everything is going right. Hopefully that's the case for both of them. So that's why we're talking about them in this range. But I think it comes down to do you want to commit to the tight end early in your fantasy roster? And if you do, you'll take McBride. If you don't, you'll take, you know, London and the three of C really.
Starting point is 00:43:15 All right, Heath, justify it. This is a tough one. I was really searching for a second justify it for Heath. But Quinn John Judkins in round four, second pick up round four ahead of Breece Hall. Yeah, it is a tough one. And I think that it should be said first off that things could change this offseason that changes this ranking for me. The biggest difference between them for now, for me, is that last year, the 15 rush attempts per game for Brise Hall was a career high. He'd never been over 14.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Quintan Judkins, from week three through 15, averaged almost 18 rush attempts per game. Quintan Judkins scored seven touchdowns last year, rushing touchdowns. Bruce Hull's never had more than five rushing touchdowns. I think I have a little bit more, and this could prove completely wrong, but I do think I have a little bit more. more hope for Monken offensively, positively impacting the Browns than Frank Reich still under Aaron Glenn positively impacting the Jets. Okay. And I took Breeze Hall with the next pick.
Starting point is 00:44:21 I was picking after Heath. So I got McBride. I took Breeze Hall. And I just, I know he only, that's the thing. Like he only had 36 catches on 48 targets and 16 games, Breeze Hall. but he has you know he has 70 catch potential if they want to use him that way
Starting point is 00:44:38 I think the real hope like that I saw a report and it was probably like it was just on social media but that Tua could be going to the Jets that could be great for Briseole yeah I just Judkins they really did not throw to him much at all so I was
Starting point is 00:44:54 kind of I think I would have gone if I had had I didn't have the choice but if I had the choice actually I forgot I also forgot about this when Shadur Sanders took over, he did kind of start throwing to Judkins, 3, 3, 4, 6, and 6 targets in his last 4 games, and that 6 target game was a partial game. But Samson, I believe,
Starting point is 00:45:10 was hurt for a portion of that too, right? I don't know. Yeah, it's true. I don't think it changed his third down roll. I think he just started getting, yeah, Samson missed two of those games. I think that he just started getting more targets, you know, on
Starting point is 00:45:26 first and second down. But anyway, real quick, no explanation. Hall can't be as bad as he was if healthy. This was just a miserable, miserable, miserable situation. They went through three quarterbacks. There were 29th in total yards and scoring. It obviously didn't completely bottom out, but it's pretty close to it during his time there.
Starting point is 00:45:49 And so he scored five total touchdowns. There's a chance that the touchdown total is worse for Judkins. Worse than five or worse than what it was last year? worse than five. I would just say that the Browns also went through three quarterbacks and were behind the Jets and scoring and yards last year. But they're losing more than the Jets are losing at this point from a talent standpoint. Like that offensive line. Look at the offensive line.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I think the last factor for me is the injury. He had a, you know, Jenkins had a, I can't remember what it was. Broken, broken leg, knee, Torton Patela. I have it in my notes somewhere, but he had a serious injury, and it was in week 16. So, all right, Dave, Jamie, just give me a name. Breece Hall or Quinn John Judkins? Breece. Right now, Breeze.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Okay. Should we do my Justifiates, or should we just get out of here, read some emails? I'll let you guys weigh in on my Justifiates. I took Breeze Hall over Devante Adams in round four, and see who I had on my team at that point. I had Chase Brown, T. McBride, and T. Higgins.
Starting point is 00:47:05 So I guess I didn't want to go, I don't think it was position related. But taking Breeze Hall on one of the worst offenses of football over Devante Adams on one of the best offenses in football. Adams played less than 50% of the snaps in each of his last two games.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Before that, the games he played as normal snapshot who's on page for 20 touchdowns. So I do have maybe some second thoughts about that. Who would you guys have taken? Breast Hall or Devante Adams? Who was on your team? One running back, one tight end, and one wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:47:34 So no real positional advantage or disadvantage. At the time of the draft, I would have gone Hall because there was still the potential of him may be leaving. And that upside, again, you know, you can do best ball drafts now. So people are falling, we're falling into this, you know, trap essentially of, I mean, imagine we're sitting here today and Brees Hall was a free agent.
Starting point is 00:48:01 and could end up on the Chiefs or Seattle or, you know, someplace where there would be amazing. Like, you would have been like, ha, told you. Dave, how about you, Hall or Adams? Both feel like such a trap. I probably would have said Hall. And that's the end of the sentence. I think I would have said Hall. Yeah, I'd go with Reese Hall.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah, we'll talk about this some other time, but Adams is tough to wrap your head around because I was, I, really felt like he looked pretty good out there. You know, he looked like Devante Adams, caught all those touchdowns, but the stats are really bad. I mean, he wasn't even on pace for a thousand yards, and he was 32, right? Now he's, I think he's 33 now.
Starting point is 00:48:47 He will turn 33 during the year. Oh, during the football season. Okay, his birthday is late December. So this is going to be his age 32 season, Devante Adams? Or age 30? He's old. I mean, there's no way around.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Right, but it's like, you could easily look. at his, no, he is 33, Dave. He'll turn 34 on Christmas Eve. So, you know, you could easily look at him and be like, well, he's an old guy who's clearly going down the, you know, who's clearly on the wrong side of his career. But we've sort of been fooled by that before and he's bounced back. But anyway, next one for me, I think this is a more interesting justify it is for me
Starting point is 00:49:29 drafting so many bounce back candidates, you know. And did I, do you have too much risk? Lamar Jackson took in round six, I think. He's coming off a bad year. Breeze Hall coming off a bad year. T. Higgins coming off a bad year, although I said over 15 fantasy points per game with Joe Burrow, but only one game with more than, with even reaching 70 yards in those five with Burrow. He's just very touchdown dependent.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Cortland Sutton coming off kind of a bad year. That's more than half my starting lineup is Lamar Jackson, Brees Hall, T. Higgins. I would even say Joanne. had a disappointing year, and he's my wide receiver three. Cortland Sutton. So I don't have a lot of guys who really stood out last year. Heath, what are your thoughts on bounce back candidates? I don't really think about the number of bounce back candidates that I have drafted, but I do
Starting point is 00:50:20 think that that probably happens to me more often just because was it one, I think with several of these guys, you can look at it, make a very good case that they're going to be better than they were last year. I have a harder time with Sutton just because of the way that offense in Denver functions. Right. I mean, you've got to have a good reason to take the bounce back guy. I think Lamar Jackson is a great bounce back. It's so obvious why he struggled.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Right. Don't know what the new offense will look like for him, but he obviously was playing very hurt. Well, I mean, look, you're getting these guys at cost. I'm not getting, it's not like I'm getting great values on them. I mean, I took Higgins in round three. I took Brees Hall in round four. Again, Higgins, you get at a discount because of his stats weren't as great because Joe Burrow missed so much time. You know, so that's an easy one.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Lamar Jackson is an easy one. You know, again, quarterbacks in our drafts plus, you know, the wherever people sort of view him. I mean, look, Coral and Sutton is an aging wide receiver that when did you get around seven? Six? Seven, I think. Like, that's great. You took him in round five. That took him in round five.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yes, sir, you did. That was late round five at the very least. That's true. You picked him over Terry McLaurin, Marvin Harrison, Christian Watson. Yeah, not a great spot for wide receivers there, which I think is part of why I asked Jamie about the running back, running back strategy. But who were the running backs there? Ramonre went one spot ahead, so I don't know if we can count him. You could have had facial tootin.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Oh, this was like a running back desert. Yeah, this is, okay, yeah, so. The only running back that was taken between your Sutton pick and then your pick of Pollard in round seven was Bachel Tootin by some handsome looking devil. And then Jalen Warren also Kyle Menongai got taken in round seven for reasons I can't justify. I mean, look at this draft.
Starting point is 00:52:24 We had- Not a lot of running backs. Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, and Jaden Daniels all go in round six. So that's unusual. But, I mean, it really feels like when you look back at last year, there were so few good players. Yeah, it's just, it's a dead zone, getting to pick 60 overall, and you're like 100. So I guess just knowing that they were available,
Starting point is 00:52:48 would you have preferred to take a wide receiver instead of McBride and knowing that you could have had Leport or craft here? No. But I think I would have taken McLaurin over Sutton. Well, you would have, Heath, you would have... You took Stutton in round six? No, I took him in round five. Late round five.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Who'd you take in round six? Lamar. Yeah, I love that. That was my best pick. That was a really good one. So you could have had your favorite of Leporta Craft Pits with Drake London or Cortland Sutton and Trey McBride. Yeah, I'm not, I don't feel the same way about the tight ends that you do.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I don't think I want, I think I'm going late on tight ends this year. Or actually, I think Bauer. is probably a guy I'm going to be targeting a lot. But Laporta, like, Kraft, Kraft, I can't remember. He was on pace for something like 90 targets. And he's coming off a torn ACL. So an extremely efficient season with a whole bunch of like long touchdown catches and coming off a torn ACL.
Starting point is 00:53:51 He's just not going to get the targets. Leporta also not going to get the targets. I don't think either of them are going to, in a PPR league, I don't think either of them are getting targets to justify a sixth round pick. Kyle Pitts has been good in his rookie season. He's basically been good when Drake London has not been on the team or playing. That is the summary of Kyle Pitts's career. So I will not be taking those guys as of now in round six.
Starting point is 00:54:15 This is, I think really just the whole discussion is just that you are very agnostic about offensive coordinators. I mean, players matter. There's no downgrade of Trey McBride and there's no upgrade of Leporto or Pitts. I think there should be a Trey McBride downgrade. I don't think it's coordinator related, though. If you're an offensive coordinator and you cannot see that Trey McBride is amazing and you need to get him the ball, then you're a failure. My concerns with McBride, I'm sure everybody will have this concern,
Starting point is 00:54:45 is they led the NFL in past attempts last year. Heath, we're talking about this. I mean, I'm going to repeat some of your points. But the other thing is, is Michael Wilson going to actually be a thing? Because it was a super small sample size. but when Marvin Harrison was on the field, after Michael Wilson had kind of broken out, they all had about a 19 to 20% target share,
Starting point is 00:55:08 really small sample side, but all three of them. So if Michael Wilson is a thing, we never thought of Michael Wilson as anything, you know, as a target hog in any sense. But if they now have a three-man receiving corps and they're throwing a lot less, yeah, we've got issues here
Starting point is 00:55:26 of taking Trey McBride with a top 15 to 3. 20 pick, I think. And just for reference, if they throw, if the pass attempts drop down to 560, which is still above league average. And Trey McBride has a 20% target share, like you just said in that small sample, that's 112 targets. Yeah. 20% seems pretty low.
Starting point is 00:55:48 But it's, it would be shocking to see him have 112 targets. But it wouldn't it? But it wouldn't be shocking to see him have like 130, 135? What did you have last year? 169. Yeah. So, no, I have, I have concerns. I, I actually think Bowers is going to be, like, maybe the better value, if not the best
Starting point is 00:56:10 tight end. Yeah, I've got Bowers projected to score more than McBride. Okay. Let's read a couple emails. Because I don't think we're going to get to him next week when we have free agency. By the way, our schedule next week's going to be a little bit different. We're not going to have shows in the morning, most likely. We're going to be reacting at the end of each day.
Starting point is 00:56:27 and Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday for sure. I guess depending on the news. We'll also have bonus podcasts for any major news. But our email address is Fantasy Football at CBSI.com. That is the letter I. Fantasy football at CBSI.com. Sam, I don't know if you read this on your show, Heath, but Sam wants to know what the Dynasty Outlook is for Rishi Rice.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Heath? I did and I still have no answer. It's been the same thing for like three, four off-seasons now. I currently have rice, I think, at wide receiver 12 or 13 in Dynasty, right behind George Pickens, right behind Nico Collins. But this could go wildly in any direction. When I just do projections and forget about all the off-field stuff, he comes out as wide receiver four for next year.
Starting point is 00:57:23 As a Chiefs fan, do you want to see the Chiefs? chiefs sign him to an extension. I don't know how you could at this point. No, I don't. And I don't think, I don't really think there's probably significant trade value there. We might be able to get him at a discount, which if everything is cleared for him and he just can get his,
Starting point is 00:57:46 everything straightened out, like, that's a steal, potentially. Such a unique player, Rishi Rice. I mean, here is his A-DOT. in three seasons, it's never been higher than 5.2 yards. And he's basically the only guy who has done what he's done with an A.D. That low. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Exactly. I mean, this is what, not this past year, but this is what, like, Wondale Robinson, I think, used to be. Khalil Shakir is like this. So he's got the Khalil Shakir profile, except he's so much better. Right. It's weird. It's kind of hard to project if he were. And I think that what makes that harder in Dynasty is what if the chiefs don't extend him
Starting point is 00:58:28 and he goes somewhere else. How does his game translate in a different role? By the way, someone else, a gamer Eric, Eric said, and we'll have the shows at the end of each day. So if the afternoon is 11.30 p.m. is 11.30 a.m. is the end of each day, 4 p.m. And it's kind of funny because that is actually what I meant. I sort of meant like the end of the work day. So we'll have shows for you.
Starting point is 00:58:53 I think they'll probably publish around 5.30 or 6 this next upcoming week. But we're going to plan on doing shows around 4 p.m. If you want to watch live. 5.30 or 6? 5.30 or 6 publishing, like be available. Yeah, that's like FFT late night. FFT late night is super fun. Well, there'll be a few of those.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yeah, probably. You know, last year we had a Friday bonus pod. We had a Sunday bonus pod. We had Gino Smith getting traded or whatever it was, ending up on the Raiders. We had Devante Adams to the Rams. So we actually got the party started before even the Monday of Free Agency Week. This one is from Kevin. He said the quick convo that we had about Giovante Williams being the most inefficient receiving running back in at least the last 15 years.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Made me think that he could be this year's Chuba Hubbard. Getting paid after having a poor season from a receiving efficiency perspective might lead to him being the rare dead zone running back. Do you see, Jamie, any parallels between Javante Williams this year and Chuba Hubbard last year? I mean, Chuba got paid in the middle of the 2023 season, or 2024 season. But there also was, they drafted his replacement, essentially. You couldn't stay healthy. So whatever the Cowboys do the rest of this off season, I think would potentially put Javante in that category. but if he's still worried about Jaden Blue and Phil Moffa,
Starting point is 01:00:31 then no, I don't really worry about it too much. Javante averaged 3.9 yards per catch last year. Chuba Hubbard is one of the only guys that I've seen that's been even close to that. He was at four yards per catch in 2024, and he bounced back to 7.4. So that's kind of what I was saying, is like, Javante will not be that bad yards per catch. He hasn't been that good in his career, like five.
Starting point is 01:00:55 point seven that's not so good right he's seven point three in his rookie year and he and no it's well below average yeah so he's not good at that because he doesn't he's he's he's kind of slow it doesn't make guys miss but he will not be three point nine it's unbelievable he's going to regress positively in that regard and then uh dave i'll throw this question at you this is from the chat yeah if adam heath jami and dave were in a car together who would drive first and what music do you put on oh i know this one I think it's either me or Heath driving. Has this ever happened, though, that all four of us have been in a car together?
Starting point is 01:01:35 We've never been in a car together. No. I think there have been multiple times three of the four of us have been in a car together, but I don't think all four of us in a car together. I think Dave would be driving. I would annoyingly call shotgun. You guys would sit in the back and we wouldn't listen to music. We would talk.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Great. Yeah, I would think that Heath would probably be in charge. Is this a road trip or are we just going to go get lunch at, you know i say it's uh it's a 45 minute drive heath will probably be in charge of the radio then no there's no way in hell i will bring my i i'll bring my i'll bring you're in the back seat you literally have no choice yeah you're gonna have to then you're you're definitely in the backseat because of we're smaller than yeah yeah i'm fine with that i wouldn't i would never consider calling shock up uh but now if you're driving the four runner you should be an episode we should do an
Starting point is 01:02:27 episode from the car. But I'm standing by that maybe I would be in charge of the radio because it wouldn't be turned on. I agree with you. I don't think we would listen to music at all. It would be distracted. We would never agree on anything. The ride there would be Adam struggling about what he was going to eat.
Starting point is 01:02:43 The ride home would be Adam bitching about what he did they. Right. Yes. Yeah, because he picked the restaurant and it was terrible. That's a horrible. Well, usually it would be me picking the restaurant that's terrible. Not Heath. I would make some stupid comment about Dave changing the order.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Oh, yeah. Both ways. Dave's going to order a hamburger, make a chicken. I can't believe Dave ordered a hamburger and made a chicken. That's really funny. That's a good question. Yeah, I remember me, Heath, and Dave took a couple of long drives together.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Yes. From Coral Springs, Florida, where basically we all live, or my parents live, to the convention center in Miami for the Super Bowl in 2020. And we probably didn't listen to the radio at all. I was in the passenger seat. You were in the back seat and I don't think the radio was ever turned on. And we just talked S about Jamie the whole test. I can't believe I just said S, by the way. We talked smack, which is what S stands for about
Starting point is 01:03:39 privately known as the Jeff Garcia Super Bowl. Jeff Garcia, yeah, didn't hold the door for me. Horrible, horrible door holding etiquette. Unbelievable. All right, fun show, guys. Thank you very much. Good job with your justifications. And we will talk to you all on You know what? I don't even know. Wherever the news and the wind exists. Have a great weekend, everybody.

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