Fantasy Football Today - Justin Fields Reaction, How to Drafts from Picks 7-9 (07/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

Bid on Draft-A-Thon items here! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tiltify.com/@cbs-sports/fft-draftathon-2025⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠... See the draft results here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_uOp-KJX80 We've already got big injury news as Justin Fields left practice with a toe injury. If the Jets were to need Tyrod Taylor, how would that change the rankings for Breece Hall and Garrett Wilson? It might not be as dramatic as you'd expect ... A quick round of trivia (10:30) and some news and notes (14:00) as we talk about Malik Nabers and his toe injury and more. Then Jamey and Adam compare their picks from Teams 7 and 8 (19:50). Adam drafted four different positions with his first four picks, while Jamey focused on running backs and wide receivers. Who drafted better!? ... We look at how to build a team from picks 9 and 10 (38:10) followed by picks 11 and 12 (57:15). How much should your first two picks impact your third round pick? If you draft a stud quarterback, should you draft a backup? Did Dan screw up Team 12 by taking Patrick Mahomes and Sam LaPorta at the 5/6 turn? ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FFT newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:53 In Tracker, all episodes now streaming on Paramount Plus and returning CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Welcome everybody to Fantasy Football Today, Thursday, July 24th.
Starting point is 00:01:25 And man, we already have, well, I wouldn't say big injury news. We have breaking news. We don't know the severity. We're going to talk about Justin Fields as of right now, 10, 15 in the morning on Thursday. All we know is he was carted off and he took his shoe off and let's just call it a lower extremity injury. We're going to recap the rest of our pick by pick series. We'll pick seven through 12, how to build your roster from pick seven through 12.
Starting point is 00:01:50 We got an important update on Malik neighbors and his toe and much more. Whew, boy. All right, guys, let's jump right into it here. What are we thinking with the jet situation, Dave Richard? First of all, you've got to wait and see just how severe it is. Just because he got carted doesn't mean anything. It's more the fact that it's a possible non-contact injury to his foot. It sounds like it's his foot.
Starting point is 00:02:16 That's trouble. Now's not the time. This is serious. We shouldn't be doing this. Yeah, seriously. A man might have just lost a year of his career. No, now's not the time. This is serious. We shouldn't be doing this. Yeah, seriously. A man might have just lost a year of his career. I'm sorry, no.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Birthday song? That was my bad. I did it. It's Dave's. How inconsiderate of you. It's Dave's birthday today. We'll sing later. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:38 No one gives a damn. Go on. Everyone cares about what this means for Breece Hall and Garrett Wilson. And as of now, I'm not moving either of those guys, but I mean, if he's going from Justin Fields to Tarrod Taylor, is that really a huge drop off for Garrett Wilson?
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yeah, maybe it's enough to see him move down a little bit, but Breece Hall, maybe it's a little bit better for him without Justin Fields. Bull guarding as much of those carries and short yardage touchdowns, maybe it helps him, but it's already, I wasn't excited about this offense to begin with. This makes me less excited.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Jamie, what's your take if Justin Fields were to miss time? It would depend on how much time, but I do think it's encouraging that he was able to get up and stand up and then the cart was I think more procedural than necessary. It's always good when you get reports of not just carted you know we used to get that all the time player was carted off well oh my god you know there's a little bit more context to it. Wouldn't surprise me if the Jets made a move Kirk Cousins probably it makes some sense if if If Fields is going to have a significant injury, but I'm just gonna be patient and wait this out.
Starting point is 00:03:51 So, you know, any drafts right now, I think you're still drafting them accordingly as if Fields is the guy. Wow. But you're not drafting Fields right now as if- Right. I would today, yeah. Still the same. Okay. In the same spot. Yeah. I mean, I would,
Starting point is 00:04:09 I would move them down a few spots. There's a chance he doesn't play this year based on this news. Hey, I'm looking at the career numbers for fields and Tarad Taylor. Yeah. It's like identical. It's both of them have a career 7.0 yards per attempt average. Both of them, Turad's at 3.9% for touchdown rate. Fields is at 4%. Completion rate, they're apart by 8 tenths of a percentage point. Fields is a higher interception rate. It's really crazy how close they are. So I don't really know if there's a huge difference. I don't know if there's a real reason to run away from Garrett Wilson, just because Turrod's the QB. I'd be surprised if they acquired Kirk Cousins unless the Falcons were paying like all of Kirk Cousins salary for this year. So Taylor, the comparisons, yeah, they are and the completion percentage. Oh, you mentioned the interception rate was what I wanted
Starting point is 00:05:03 to mention. That's actually a lot better for Turad Taylor. He has a better career passer rating than Fields, but he's 36 next month. He also, so he had three years Turad Taylor where he was the starting quarterback for at least 14 games for Buffalo. And he finished, listen to this, on a per game basis, Turad Taylor was QB seven, nine, and 19 in four point per passing touchdown
Starting point is 00:05:27 leagues. QB 12, 14, and 22 in six point per passing touchdown league. So that's two really good seasons there. One year he gave us Sammy Watkins, who was the number 10 wide receiver per game in PPR in 13 games. He had over a thousand yards in 13 games. While leaving one game early with an injury, the other two years, you know, not good. Watkins struggled the next year in eight games. He averaged 54 yards per game. And then the year after that,
Starting point is 00:05:53 the two leading receivers for Buffalo, this is why Taylor had such a bad year. Their two leading receivers were Charles Clay and LaShawn McCoy. So they had awful wide receivers that year. But Taylor, you know, if you were in his prime, you could argue that this is really a maybe even better because he runs less and will run for fewer touchdowns than Justin Fields. But obviously, you know, fields you could look at as maybe someone
Starting point is 00:06:18 that Heath has mentioned, he's gotten better every year. Maybe he's an ascending player. Tarad Taylor is 36 years old. But last thing on Taylor, he made four starts with the Giants two years ago, four starts that he didn't leave with early. He forced games that he started and finished, but that way he scored 19.7 or more fantasy points and six points for passing touchdown leagues in three out of four. Two years before that, he did the same thing with the Texans. He scored 19.1 or more fantasy points in three or four games that he started and finished. So put them on your radar in four point per pass in touchdown leagues, put them on your
Starting point is 00:06:53 radar in super flex, obviously, but he's he might not be that bad if he can just, you know, not age, I guess. All right. So that's our analysis there. Not a huge change. By the way, who's in the front office now for the Jets? Oh, the guy. What's his name? I mean, he's not the general manager, but he's a consultant for them.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Oh, you're talking about our former colleague. Yeah. Who did he pay a lot of money to? He did pay Kirk Cousins a lot of money once upon a time. My argument is if, if you're not gonna, it seems like it's a lot to spend unless you really thought of your team as a contending team right now. You're talking about Rick Spielman, by the way. So consulting for the, if they're gonna, if they're gonna add $20 million or whatever it would be, what happened once upon a time
Starting point is 00:07:44 when the Vikings had a quarterback injury? Oh, you're talking about the Sam Bradford deal? Yeah. Yeah, they gave up a first round pick for Sam Bradford. And you know what? To your point on that, I don't remember the Vikings as a major Super Bowl contender at that point. Oh, they were a contender. They were absolutely Bowl contender at that point. They were a contender. They were absolutely a contender.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I don't know if they were like, I don't know if they were. Are we putting them up there at the top with like the other teams? I don't know if they were the top five team, but they were certainly a contender. We were coming off the loss to the Seahawks in the Wild Walsh program. Yeah. So just to recap. I'd be surprised if they paid Kirk Cousins a lot of money. You know, I don't think they would. Listen, if they're going to make a trade for Kirk Cousins, there's going to obviously be some financials coming back from the Falcons to pay it. Sure.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Just to recap, just to recap. If Tarrod Taylor were to be the quarterback for the Jets this year, you would do what with Garrett Wilson's ranking and what with Breeze Hall's ranking. I wouldn't change it at all. I would move Garrett Wilson down a smidge. I would move Breeze Hall up a smidge. Okay. You want to ask the same question with Kirk Cousins? No, let's, yeah, let's wait.
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Starting point is 00:10:09 So this is the guy who is writing Mike. He's writing about Drake May and Heath being too low on Drake May. Okay, I think what we should do is mention him every show until someone donates more. And then whoever donates more gets a mention on the show every day. He's just going to be he's going to be a member of the FFT. That's what I'm saying until someone comes up with a thousand and one for St. Jude. All right. Let's move on to, that'd be great. I mean, I hope that works. That'd be great. Quick round of trivia. Here we go. The closest answer wins. DJ Moore has played seven NFL seasons in his last six seasons. What is the most amount of touchdown passes his team has thrown in DJ Moore's last six
Starting point is 00:10:49 seasons? 26. So the entire team total of touchdown passes? Correct. 26. Could be like if there was a special teams touchdown off a pass? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:01 26. I just threw a number off the top of my head. You can't say 26. The birthday boy said 26. Oh, I'm sorry. 26. I just grew a number off the top of my head. You can't say 26 date. The birthday boy said 26. Oh, I'm sorry. 24. Jamie is right. No, Jamie is closest. The answer is a pathetic 20. DJ Moore's teams have not thrown more than 20 touchdowns in the last six seasons. And it was actually last year, Caleb Williams, most touchdown passes since DJ Moore's rookie season when he, I think his team through 28 that year. All right. In 2021, Jamar chase was a rookie. He ranked sixth among wide receivers in explosive play rate in his last three seasons out of 105 wide receivers with 100 and more targets, 100 or more targets. Where does Jamar Chase rank in explosive play rate over the last three years out of 105 wide receivers?
Starting point is 00:11:53 Top five. If he's asking this, it's probably bad. I'll say 105. No, he's not. No, no, he said 105. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll go somewhere in the middle. 50. 73rd. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Is that shocking to you or what? Jamar Chase. Who are the top five in that category? Oh, I think I might still have that up. Okay. So the top five are Brandon Iuke, Nico Collins, Josh Reynolds, Jaylen Waddle, and Lad McConkey. Josh Reynolds explosive playalen Waddle, and Lad McConkey. Josh Reynolds explosive play rate will go down with Tara Taylor.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Josh fantasy value craters. Josh Reynolds because a lot of it is a dot. These guys usually have higher a dots. Smart Chase is pretty low a dot. All right. Let's see. Yeah. Oh, he was, he oh, his explosive play rate
Starting point is 00:12:47 was terrific last year. Last one, Lamar Jackson became the full-time starter in 2019. Since then, where do the Ravens rank in running back carries from the five yard line or closer? Dan, first. First? Uh, 10th. Jamie sweeps it is seventh, but it's still very high. They went over.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah, but I didn't say I said just said closest not close. I went over. Uh, it depends how you look at it. I guess. Yeah. So the Ravens always give you a lot of goal line carries. This is more than twice. Twenty four is over 20.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Yeah. You both went over on that one. All right. Bonus. Which team leads the NFL and running back carries from the five yard line or closer since 2019? Running back carries? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:41 So it's not Philly. Detroit. That's a great guess. It is such a good guess. I'm not even gonna let Dave guess. It is the correct answer. Right. Detroit's always doing that.
Starting point is 00:13:53 All right. Let's get to some news and notes and then we will talk about the rest of the pick by pick. Malik neighbors is practicing. Remember he sat out during OTAs, a mini camp, whatever it was, because of a toe injury that they said was lingering and they don't have to monitor it. But the quotes made me a little nervous. They said that surgery is an option at some point and that it has been discussed.
Starting point is 00:14:17 So he's got this lingering toe issue that's going to have to be monitored. Convince me that I should take Malik neighbors in the first round. I just, there's a lot of great wide receivers. Why am I taking him over Brian Thomas Jr. For example, he's got the worst offense and a toe injury. If he's not going to have surgery and plays the entire season, he will have more targets than maybe everybody in the league. Right. He he's got upside to be the wide receiver one. He is the perfect combination of target volume, explosiveness, and just unbelievable playmaking ability.
Starting point is 00:14:56 There is no question that he's the number one guy on his team. He has serviceable quarterback play compared to last year, especially. He had, he averaged 11 targets per game last year, played only 15 games, was a monster for fantasy. Uh, you're, you're, when you draft them, you're drafting them for the upside more than anything else. It's just the toe is now probably a bigger downside case than it was when it first came out.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Remember he was practicing during the off season with the toe. So the thing you'd have to worry about I suppose is the Giants are out of it late in the year or maybe he aggravates it and they say, you know what? Just get it taken care of and you don't get the full season out of Malik neighbors. There's an update speaking of toes. Aaron Glenn says the toe injury for Justin Fields
Starting point is 00:15:42 no update on the severity. All right. Well, that's good news. I think. I think that is. Yeah. I mean, we'll see. Unless it's broken. I mean, it's better than an Achilles. If it's better Achilles, better than a high ankle sprain. I would agree unless again, so, you know, broken toe could be turf toe.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah, it's July 24th. Season starts on September 4th, I believe. So, you know, you could, maybe if you missed a couple, whatever, I mean, I'm just saying, there's time to recover unless it's really serious. Okay, Kyle Pitts, by the way, recovered from a foot injury. He's back, he's practicing. Ken Walker's- He's practicing with the wide receivers. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:16:19 We're in the Falcons official site. Ken Walker recovered from an ankle injury. He's back and apparently looking good. Mike K of the Charlotte. Great. You can walk her. Yeah. Yeah. Mike K of the Charlotte Observer says that Bryce Young and Hunter Renfro have good chemistry. Chicago rookie wide receiver wide receiver Luther Burden is not yet practicing. Juwan Jennings practiced in full. That's cool. But wide receiver Jacob Cowling for the 49ers heard his hamstring. Cleveland head coach Kevin Stefanski acknowledged
Starting point is 00:16:49 that Jerome Ford is the starting running back right now. He also said that Cleveland wants to figure out its starting quarterback sooner rather than later. Arizona rookie defensive tackle, first round pick Walter Nolan III is going to miss some time with a calf injury. One of Seattle's best defensive players, linebacker Uchenna Nwosu, might not be ready for week one,
Starting point is 00:17:07 and defensive tackle Jonathan Hankins is on the non-football injury NFI list. Dallas wants to move Kavante Turpin all over the field. They use him at running back, and we mentioned that yesterday. He was picked up in our dynasty league, so Kavante Turpin, someone, someone if you super deep leagues. And we're hoping for the best for Miami offensive lineman Byron Matos, who was airlifted to the hospital
Starting point is 00:17:29 with an injury yesterday. And also cornerback Artie Burns for the Dolphins may have torn his ACL. Take a break and get into picks seven through 12. So one through six was a little bit predictable, I guess things get more interesting, I think, with seven through 12. We'll through six was a little bit predictable, I guess. Things get more interesting, I think, with seven through 12. We'll be right back. Now streaming when people go missing, I get hired to help find them when lives are on the line. Please find my daughter. He is the man for the job. I'm gonna do everything I can. Don't miss a moment. Culture's in trouble. I can feel it of TV's number one show. These people are dangerous I'm doing this alone. No, no, no every Batman gotta have their router culture Justin Hartley stars
Starting point is 00:18:10 I made a promise I would never stop looking in tracker all episodes now streaming on Paramount Plus and returning CBS fall So yesterday was part one of this and by the way Jamie, can you just tell everybody how to see? This story and all the results for the Pick by Pick series? I just sent it out on Twitter X, whatever we're calling it these days. You retweeted it as well, that there is a landing page for all 12 stories and you can see the entire mock draft in its entirety, how we usually present our mock drafts
Starting point is 00:18:44 on cbssports.com. So you can find them individually mock draft in its entirety, how we usually present our mock drafts on cbsports.com. So you can find them individually, each pick, each story from all six of us that did the two write-ups. But if you just want one landing page with the entire draft, you can see it on cbsports.com. Yeah, very cool stuff and hopefully very helpful. We're gonna be doing another one. And we'll be doing at least one more of these, maybe two.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Okay, and do I have to write the article again? Or can you write it for me? Or? Yeah, you can do all your your similar mistakes in there that you did. I read yours. It was terrible. Geez. I don't doubt it. I don't really know how to write. So anywho, let's take a look at team seven, which was Jamie's and team eight was mine. And I guess we can start there because we had very, very, very different builds. So Jamie, I talked about team one for you yesterday where your first seven picks were was a seven. Yeah. Seven picks were running backs and wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And this one first eight picks. No, wait, more than that. What do you got? First 10 picks? We're running back some wide receivers. So you, you, uh, you kept with that strategy there and you ended up with Evan Ingram and Bo Nix at quarterback and tight end. Stack. Whereas I, as we talked about this at the end of yesterday's show, Dave, I took four different positions with my first four picks. So I guess that just shows you that if you're picking in the middle, Jamie, there are different ways that you can go because, you know, McBride, maybe Bowers, but McBride is probably in play
Starting point is 00:20:17 for you there. In round three, you're definitely in position to look at maybe one of the three, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, and Jane Daniels and then in round four, Kittle burrow hurts could be in play for you there. So there are a lot of things you can do if you're picking in the middle. Yeah, I think it's you know, this is why I think a lot of people like to be in the spot because you're still getting one of the top, you know, seven, eight, 10 players, depending on
Starting point is 00:20:41 how far your, your list goes. And then you're getting still I think a very quality player. I knew you were taking AJ Brown. The way the draft unfolded in round two would have been thrilled if he felt to me was thrilled that Drake London was still there. Then we get to those group of running backs that I think you can make a case for Jacobs and Taylor, Irving, Chase Brown, Kyron Williams still, all you know, all these guys. And then, you know, if you want to go the tight end route, uh, we saw. Bowers go earlier in round two, second pick around to, and McBride was on the board for me, I wasn't comfortable taking him in that spot. Not that I don't like him, but it just thinks too soon.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Uh, there's just so many different ways you could play it out. You know, I think it's really when you get to round three is when the fun starts. So, uh, so it's, you know, you, know, you can kind of control the way that you, you have the opportunity, I think in round one, there will be if you're seven, eight, nine, I think McCaffrey's on the board, HN will most likely be on the board, not with our draft, but Jameer Gibbs may be on the board like he was here. Gentie will be on the board. Like you could take one of the top six or seven running backs. You should have an opportunity to take one of the top 10 wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And I think that's just a good way to start your team. And then you come back, or I'm sorry, you could take one of the receivers in the first round too. And then again, it's just really like what happens in round three. So like you could see a situation where James Cook is there, Kyron Williams is there based on ADP. So if you want to go receiver, receiver, you know, there's just so many different ways you can go. And it's really easy to map out. When you're picking seventh overall, that means you're also picking 18th overall. Before your draft, you can make a list of your top 18 players, and you can just draft off that for the first two rounds.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Maybe you get really lucky, and one of those players is there in round three as well. But I think you'd rather have two top 18 picks than two top 24 picks. And that's why I think the closer, I thought about this after the show yesterday, the closer I get to the end of round one, the more I like the draft slot this year. Because I think there is a drop off between, honestly, I think the drop off is from like 15th overall. And then it gets worse once you get to like 22nd, 23rd. So I like picking toward the end of round one this year
Starting point is 00:22:50 because of the talent that's available at the tippy top of the draft. Yeah, I've thought about that a lot. And I certainly agree with what you're saying about your first two picks. But my issue is the middle of round three, I feel like every single year we feel this way, the middle of round three, I feel like every single year we feel this way, the middle of round three,
Starting point is 00:23:06 it feels like there's a drop off at that point. So if I have a late pick in round one, obviously it means I have a late pick in round three. And you know, I don't love having the late pick in round three. I often find that when we've done mock drafts and I've come up in the third round I
Starting point is 00:23:27 Haven't loved my pick. So I'm sort of torn on where I want to draft and a lot of people get to make this decision I think maybe being in the middle is a really good spot this year Five six, but what you did in this draft is the right thing When you're up in round three and you don't love the running backs that are there and you don't love the wide receivers that are there and you're not ready to take George Kittle, you take the quarterback because that's the safest way to go. You know it's going to be, this is presuming it's one of the top three guys, Alan, Jackson, Jane Daniels. That's how I have them ranked. But when you take one of those 3 quarterbacks, you should feel confident that you're taking a player that's going to get you north of 25 fantasy points per week, a must-starter on your team, a difference-maker for your team. You're not overpaying for them. And you're, you're taking advantage of people kind of passing on quarterback, waiting on quarterback, and getting a player that's just, it's an, it's an easy click at that point to take
Starting point is 00:24:27 one of those stud quarterbacks, understanding that you're kind of kicking the can on the other positions, and you're not, like, wedging in a running back or a wide receiver that you're not all in on with that pick. I love what you did by taking Alan there and being the first person to take a quarterback off the board in the back half of round three. 3.7. Thank you, Dave. So I think comparing my team and Jamie's team is interesting. But there's just one last thing I want to say here. So we're talking about a 12-team league. So the end of round three is the 36th pick. And I actually, you know, I do think that there are a few players that if they fell there and based on ADP, it's quite realistic that they will, that I would personally would be happy.
Starting point is 00:25:11 So I want to ask you guys too, who are like three or four players that from what you've seen from ADP, that you'd be happy with taking with your third and fourth picks if you were picking let's say 10th, 11th or 12th overall. For me, they are James Cook, well, I'll say four guys, James Cook, Kyron Williams, Jaden Daniels and George Kittle. I feel really good about those four. I can make them my late round three or early round four picks. Again, James Cook, Kyron Williams, Jaden Daniels and George Kittle, which means I clearly don't love the wide receivers there unless JSN really does make it there.
Starting point is 00:25:49 I'll throw JSN in there too. But I seem to like the running backs better than the one in two. Oh, but JSN was there. You didn't take him. He was. No, I had the seventh pick. So I took Allen over JSN. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:00 But I mean, if I had been picking like with the 10th, with the 11th pick, I would have taken JSSN there I think like so in this draft for example Which I don't think we see that very often is JSN and Garrett Wilson both there Like Dan could have started his team in a very fun way if he passed on Breeze Hall And I know he likes clearly Marvin Harrison better than JSN and Garrett Wilson Which is not the norm of what we see for most drafts. Like he could have started Nico Collins, Amara St. Brown, Garrett Wilson, and JSN. And this is a three receiver in a flex league. Like that's amazing. No, I hate that. I love it. I hate it
Starting point is 00:26:40 because there are such good values at wide receiver later and you're gonna skip them because you've already gotten all of your wide receivers. Those are arguably four top 12 receivers and in some places that's how they're ranked. So like to me they're top 15, 16. I don't know, I would have done it especially where it's just. That's fair. You could really make a definitive case that you like Brice Hall and Marvin Harrison better than JSN and Garrett Wilson. I don't know, I would have done it, especially where it's just. That's fair. You could really make a definitive case that you like Breece Hall and Marvin Harrison better
Starting point is 00:27:07 than JSN and Garrett Wilson? I would go Breece Hall and JSN. But look, I get, I just, you give yourself not really that much positional flexibility in your draft when you've taken four wide receivers with your first four picks. Well, I mean, just again, to play it out, if we're going to just go with this exercise. So if he really wanted to go zero RB, he did it. If he had taken those four receivers and then taken Laporte and Mahomes, and then I think he's behind the eight, but if he had taken the four receivers and not taken Laporte and Mahomes, and if it's just the way that
Starting point is 00:27:43 it played itself out. So his starting running backs would be David Montgomery and Pacheco, if those are the two. So like those four receivers, Montgomery, Pacheco, I don't mind that. No, I like that. He comes back around and it's Tracy and ETN, Jaylen Warren, Devonte Williams. It's fine, yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:28:04 You just started hammering running backs. I don't know. I was having fun when I said I hate it, like, Devontae Williams, like. It's fine, yeah, it's fine. I was having fun when I said I hate it, but the truth is. I'm never going to say there's one strategy that works or does it just get the best players or 100 receptions like that's hard to pass up. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, I do like it better with a hero or be baked in there. So if he had passed on, let's say he passed on my homes and he took Jamison or Tet Macmillan to be his fourth wide receiver. And I agree Jackson, Smith and Jigbo over Marvin Harrison. I do like that a lot. Rod Kuretto Yeah, I'm sorry. I just want to get back on track.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Tim Cynova The one RB that you just go, okay, I got one. I got one stud. My weak spot is definitely going to be at RB2, but I'm loaded at wide receiver. I've got a stud tight end. I'm going to wait on quarterback. I like that build a lot. I think Dan kind of loused it up a little bit by taking my homes, even though it's good value on my homes. All right. So anyway, that's the 12th pick. Let's get, let me get back to the seventh and eighth picks here. And Dave, you tell me, which team do you like better? Because we went about this completely different ways. Our first two picks were pretty similar. Jamie with the pick 7 went with Gibbs and Drake London in the
Starting point is 00:29:16 second round. I had pick 8. I went with McCaffrey and AJ Brown. So we go running back receiver. But Jamie takes Devante Adams and DK Metcalf with his next two picks. This is a three receiver PPR league and I take Josh Allen and George Kittle. So I'm going to give the starting lineups here for Jamie at team seven. It's Bo Nix who was taken very late. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12th round. Well, quarterbacks were insanely insanely depressed. Right. You're not going to see Bo Nix going around 12 in your home. So great pick Bo Nix and Evan Ingram for Jamie with Jameer Gibbs, Trevion Henderson,
Starting point is 00:29:54 Drake London, Devante Adams, DK Metcalf, and Chris Godwin, or if he's not ready, Khalil Shakir or Stefan Diggs at Flex. So again, it's Nick's, Evan Ingram, Broncos, Gibbs and Trevion Henderson, London Adams Metcalf, and then the Flex is probably Chris Godwin, or if he's not ready for week one, Khalil Shakir, Stefan Diggs. Running backs on the bench are Cam Scadaboo
Starting point is 00:30:22 and Isaac Arendo and Marshawn Lloyd. And yes, I will just say it now so we don't have to get back into it. I absolutely should have taken Isaac Arendo. It was a mistake by me. So Jamie's great. So that's Jamie's team. Hope this is easy for people to digest at home. I'm sorry if it's a lot of you listening.
Starting point is 00:30:39 The better way to go about it is talking about the build instead of the players. Well, no, because we got to. All right. I have John players are superior to yours. I mean, there's no better way to put it. His players are superior. I have QB. I have last year, Josh Allen was QB two or three per game and tight end one per game. Well, maybe not the running backs. Why do we, why do I feel like people always do this when they evaluate a team. The first thing they look at is the running backs and the wide receivers. I got Josh Allen and George. is the running backs and the wide receivers. I got Josh Allen and George.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I got Josh Allen and George Kittle. He has Bo Nix and Evan Ingram. Right. And there's an advantage that you've got there and he's gotten advantage at wide receiver and it's debatable if he's gotten advantage at running. Doesn't not have an advantage at running back. And if mixing is healthy, you're going to have an edge over him at running. And my number three running back is Aaron Jones.
Starting point is 00:31:28 His is cam scataboo. So I had no, there's no question. I think you probably do edge him out at running. But I don't, I wouldn't have passed on Bucky in round two if I were Jamie, especially, but that's, but that's looking back in hindsight and seeing how his receivers stack up after around there was no way I was taking Bucky Irving over Drake London and I would not advise that. Yeah, I would. I think Bucky could be awesome and Drake, Drake London is going to be great too, but I like Bucky better. So the question is,
Starting point is 00:31:55 in the hindsight of seeing Jamie getting Adams Metcalf digs, I really like a lot in round eight. Godwin, if he's right, that's fine. Shakir is solid depth. Like that's a good receiving core, even without Drake London. And so Jamie, we play this game all the time about, wouldn't you have rather taken X over Y man, your running backs would crush Adam and maybe everybody else is in the league if you had taken Bucky over Drake London. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I mean, obviously I, I like Bucky Irving. I think he's a second round pick. I think Drake London has top five upside. I don't think Bucky Irving is going to get there. I think he's got five upsides. I got to focus it on team six versus more work this year. Team seven versus eight. I got to focus it on that guys. Did I did are my wide receivers so much worse than Jamie's that if we say we're tied at running back or maybe a slight edge to me because I have a better RB three and I'm clearly better at quarterback and tight end, my wide receivers are AJ Brown, Jamison Williams, and then barf Matthew Golden, Christian Kirk, Kyle Williams, just horrible at wide receiver
Starting point is 00:33:03 three. His are Drake London, Devonte Adams, DK Metcalf, Chris Goblin, Khalil Shakir and Stefan Diggs. Is that enough of an advantage? I personally would roll the dice with my team, but I see the argument either way. Can you afford to in a three receiver league build your team so that you're that weak at wide receiver, that good everywhere else and still be all right. Preston Pysh I think if you had had Diggs instead of Golden, that's my personal preference. And I know that a lot of people are real squeamish on Stefan Diggs, but I think there's a real path for him to get some good numbers this year.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I think I might've told you that your team was better. I think it's really close now that I think about it. And yeah, the one advantage Jamie's got over you is that wide receiver. And it's a huge advantage, though, because your second wide receiver is Jameson. He's a borderline No. 2 wide receiver at best. And Jamie's got like potentially 4 No. 2 wide receivers, 5 if Godwin pans out. And those are guys that are minimum number two wide receivers. London can definitely be a number one wide receiver. Devate can be a borderline number one wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Is it a big enough edge? I would say in a three receiver, one flex, full PPR format. I think it's really close. I think it's really close. Okay. So look, so then there you go. You can do it either way. If you want to gamble on the high end talent at quarterback and running back. All right. And tight end rather. But as Dave mentioned at the end of yesterday's show, much easier to do that in a two receiver
Starting point is 00:34:34 league than a three receiver league. So just smaller league, a 10 team league and a team league. Yeah, absolutely. So just bear that in mind. I think if you had drafted a little bit, I just, I don't really love the back half of your draft picks, like everything after Aaron Jones and kind of Aaron Jones. I don't know. There weren't any great running backs left when you took Aaron Jones. So I think I'm okay with Aaron Jones. I would have probably taken some different choices starting after the Jones pick. So that was round one, two, three, four, five, six, round eight on, I think I would have made different choices than you had made. Well, you know what, Dave, you're allowed to say something like that to me because
Starting point is 00:35:18 today is your special day. Happy birthday, Dave Richard. What are you doing to celebrate? Happy birthday, Dave Richard. What are you doing to celebrate? I am going to work early, hang out with the family. My son is purveying some steaks and grilling them. And I will enjoy a nice dinner at home with the fam. Beautiful. I love it. And I just want to apologize. Work or bed. And then that's it. No love it. And I just want to apologize.
Starting point is 00:35:48 And then that's it. No one cares. I'd like to apologize for something. Sometimes you go for something. Is it trapping Matthew Golden? Sometimes you go for something and you just instantly regret it. And that is how I feel about playing the Happy Birthday music during the Justin Fields analysis. It was really wrong. It was legitimately wrong. I should not have done it. Feel kind of sick about it for the entire, for the last 40 minutes or 30 minutes. So my apologies. So you're looking for some forgiveness? Doesn't have to be. I mean, that might cost us the podcast awards. It was pretty awful, pretty,
Starting point is 00:36:19 pretty shallow. All right. All right, we're going to take a break. We're going to take a break and you'll have a new host when we come back. We'll be right back. No frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from no frills with PC express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. All right, someone in the chat just said, no team really stands out. Oh, it's Popinski here, but I like team nine's structure the most. So let's take a look at teams nine and 10. Why is six afraid of seven?
Starting point is 00:36:58 Seven, you already said seven, eight, nine earlier. Thomas apparently crushed it with team nine. Jacob was team 10. Let's see if he was able to draft enough rookies. He stole them on the other team that he had. I think we need to hire Johnny as like a joke writer. Oh, what did Johnny say this time? Adam, you have worse things to apologize for.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Starting with your signature. I don't know if that's a joke. Yeah, these aren't jokes. He's very funny. Johnny's the best. All right. So Thomas, Thomas and Jacob, they started similarly with, for Thomas, it was Nikua Henry for Jacob. It was Gentie Brian Thomas. So that's a good question right there. If you're picking nine, 10, 11, 12, whatever it is, running back in round one or wide receiver in round one? Does it matter? Again, I think it comes down to like, Gentie feels like there's a little bit of a cutoff. Obviously there's the people that are going to love Derek Henry and at this point, like I'm tired of fighting that battle. So if you want to put
Starting point is 00:38:02 Henry in that category too. So if you're looking at it and you're seeing, and I'm sure, you know, Jacob probably did this exercise too. Like you have neighbors still on the board, Collins still on the board, St. Brown still on the board, Thomas still on the board, AJ Brown, Jake London. Like if you like that group, you're going to say, okay, I'm going to take the running back because I know I'm probably not gonna get gente coming back. That's the way I would have played it out. And I would guess he's probably a Bowers guy too, because he's a young player. So there's, you know, the opportunity to get one of those guys and you say, okay, I'll just take whoever's left. I again, unless you really love Derek Henry, you take the receiver and maybe 10 years there. Question for Thomas, if you want to hop on. So you went puka in round one with the ninth
Starting point is 00:38:47 overall pick, 10th pick was Gentie. And then we have a run of five straight non running backs, neighbors, Nico, St. Brown, Bowers, Brian Thomas. And you took Derek Henry. And I think a lot of people feel like after Derek Henry, there is a drop in tier at running back. So you have Jonathan Taylor, Bucky Irving, Josh Jacobs, right? So if Derek Henry had been selected, um, and maybe Brian Thomas or Brock Bowers had fallen to you, if Derek Henry had gone after neighbors, Nico and St. Brown, and you were not going to take a running back there, maybe you would have, what would you have done with your second round pick after taking Puka,? I wouldn't have taken Brock Bowers. I'm
Starting point is 00:39:28 worried about him. So I'm not even looking at him in round two. If Amon Ra was there, I would have taken Amon Ra or Brian Thomas, depending on which receivers would have fell. I mean, I don't know who would have, but I would have, I would have ranked it. Amon Ra, Brian Thomas, Nico, the neighbors. Okay. And if you had gone receiver, receiver is here, you went Puka and Henry. If you had gone receiver, receiver, do you think you would have taken Jayden Daniels in round three? Or do you think that you would have maybe gone with Ken Walker or Brees Hall or something like that? Cause you did take Jayden Daniels in round three in this draft.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Yeah, I was gonna take Alan if you didn't take him at that point. If I were to receive a receiver, I probably would have taken Breeze Hall. Okay. Unless Josh Allen fell there, I would have taken Josh Allen over Breeze Hall. Do you have anything to say to Dave on his birthday or just gonna hop off? Happy birthday birthday Dave. That's horrible.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Appreciate everything you do. All right. No, I was gonna ask Thomas likes your team, Adam, more than Jamie's team. No, we're done with that. We gotta move on. We're done with those two terrible teams. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:38 But it's a good question. One of the keys, just real quick on that, it's because Adam was drafting every player I would have drafted. Like Adam was literally like one through through Aaron Jones. I probably would have taken all those players if I were in his spot. So, thank you. You know, you pick them in a few rounds. You could have taken the.
Starting point is 00:41:01 It's so easy to, to map out your second round pick when you're picking late in round one. I can't believe Adam took AJ Brown over there, Kenry. So all right, so quick question here. Let's say you guys went wide receiver, wide receiver instead of wide receiver running back, right? So instead of Puka and Henry, you had gone Puka. Like Dan did at pick 12.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Yeah, Puka and Brian Thomas, right? Let's say, would that have changed your round three pick or would you, and you had had conviction about taking Jayden Daniels or I'm sorry, if I can't say anyone confused Thomas with the ninth pick took Puka, Henry, Jayden Daniels. Would you have changed the Daniels pick to a running back? If you had started receiver, receiver or receiver tight end or something like that. Preston Pysh So this goes back to what I was saying earlier. If I didn't like a running back, if I didn't have that conviction for a running back or any other player at any other position, then yeah, I would have taken Jayden Daniels there. I have no problem taking quarterback in round three.
Starting point is 00:41:59 It's almost like the time to take a quarterback is when you look at the board for running backs, receivers, and tight ends and go, I hate all these guys, but I like these quarterbacks. So you take the quarterback at that point. And if that's how Thomas had felt, maybe Thomas doesn't like Kenneth Walker that much or Breece Hall that much. Then by all means, you take Jay Daniels over and you wait for a running back in round four. I think the only thing, and I don't disagree with Dave's thought process there because that's how most drafts will most likely unfold.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I just go back to something I say a lot is that you know who you're drafting with and you could have potentially and whatever drop off you think that there is for these guys. If you value Ken Walker, you value Breeze Hall or if you want to push maybe a Marion Hampton up there now or you know, Hubbard or Camaro like you could have taken one of those guys and gotten Borough or Hertz in round four. I guess my question is is more do your first two picks influence your third or do you just take best player available? Oh they should absolutely influence your third pick. I mean you know you want to take best player available but it should be something that you're thinking of you know so if you think that Daniels is your best player available, that's the route you go. But, you know, again, I don't, I'll go back to what I said about dance team, like, I would have taken, in my opinion, the best player available there, which would have been JSN and Garrett Wilson over Harrison and Hall, and gone for receivers. Not because I took two receivers, I have to take a running back or have to take something different.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I think the worst thing you can do on draft day is spend a pick on, on a position that you're kind of forcing yourself to take, especially if it's a player that you're not in love with. And you go, Oh, God, I need a running back. And you're taking, you know, a running back that you just don't believe in. It's just the worst, because then you're gonna ask yourself later on this year, why did I take this guy? I didn't even like this guy. And now he's on my fantasy team and I'm starting. And that's just not how you should play fantasy. Anybody, it's not how anybody.
Starting point is 00:43:56 We have a Justin Fields update. What is it? Should I play Happy Birthday or probably not? He dislocated his toe. Oh yeah. No fracture, not the big toe. Still undergoing tests his toe. Oh, no fracture. Not the big toe still undergoing tests, but that's the initial diagnosis. Severity is unclear according to Ian Rapaport. It's still better than a torn ligament.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Okay. Good luck to Justin Fields. Hope he's back out there very soon. All right. So Jacob at team 10, to Justin fees, Jacob made- We hope your toe heals. Oh my gosh. All right.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Jacob made 14 picks and seven of them were rookies. It's unbelievable. He has Gentie. His next four picks were veterans, but Gentie, McMillan, Judkins, Loveland, Jayden Higgins, Jarquez Hunter and Jacori Kroski-Merritt as his last pick. All right, anyway, they did structure their teams pretty similarly with one exception. Thomas took the quarterback in round three
Starting point is 00:45:01 and Jacob took Justin Fields in round one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10. But they both took a tight end in the same round round eight. He took Loveland. Thomas took Hawkinson back to back picks. But for Thomas, the team is Jaden Daniels with TJ Hawkinson and Dalton Kincaid. Quick question. If you draft Hawkinson, do you think you need to want to? Should not not should whatever draft a second tight end? You don't need a second tight end. Hocken if you want to. No.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Okay. Yeah. You can if you want to not saying it was a bad pick to take Kincaid, but don't have to. I think it's I think it's a little dicey to take Colson Loveland is your only tight end though. Yeah, that's what Jacob did. Jaden Daniels and Hocken sin and Kin Kinkata tight end running backs are Derek Henry and James Connor. Very young. wide receivers are Pukka Niku.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Pukka Niku Mike Evans with round four pick Jordan Addison Jacoby Myers. Jaylen McMillan could be a good value and Pat Bryant. And he's got Jared Goff as a backup quarterback. Mcmillan, a little insurance for Evans. I kind of prefer that in a deeper league than this type of a where this isn't a deep enough league to do that. You guys only went 14 rounds, but it's, it's reasonable. I should point out that this was before any Jordan Addison news, so I don't know that we were necessarily expecting a
Starting point is 00:46:31 suspension when we made this pick of Jordan Addison in round six. So there's, so what do we think about this build guys? So that's a quarterback in round three, but the rest of the first seven picks were two running backs and four receivers, then tight end. I don't love the double quarterback, double tight end strategy. If I could be honest, speaking for Thomas here, and I'll speak for myself, when we do these drafts, we do it without, we're not in a draft room. And it's like, get to the last two rounds. Sometimes it's hard to think about who to draft.
Starting point is 00:47:06 So you just take like names, you know, and maybe names. You were definitely, Oh, what a brilliant way to draft. No, I'm just saying we don't have a, we don't have a draft list in front of us. So maybe you don't have a rank list. Don't you have something that you go off of when you draft your rank list, top of your head at this point, if I look at your top 200 or your top whatever wide receivers that are published on CBSsports.com, running backs and wide receivers are all gone at this point. So he took Kincaid and golf. That's not true. Yes, they are. Well, I mean, are we being totally honest?
Starting point is 00:47:39 Past receiver 60, you don't even, you have to think of who's the receiver three on this team or whatever. You can print out the rankings. You're going to be cutting those players anyways, regardless. So it really doesn't matter. I'm all about it. I love what you did. What's that? I want team Adam. Yeah, it's weird. It's a good team to be on. All right. So we'll look at Jacob's team. Jacob has Justin Fields and Colston Loveland, Fields in round 10, Loveland in round eight. Gentie, Brian Thomas, Ken Walker. I'll do running backs.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Gentie and Ken Walker with Quinchon Judkins, obviously a dicey pick. Jordan Mason, Roshan Johnson, Jarques Hunter, Jacori Kroski-Merritt. These are his last three picks, those backup running backs. So he's actually, he's got seven running, seven running backs on his team, but Gentie, Ken Walker, and then a bunch of question marks. Judkins, Jordan Mason, Roshan, Jarquis Hunter, and then Kroski-Merritt.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Wide receiver, four of his first six picks are receivers. Brian Thomas Jr, Garrett Wilson, Zay Flowers, Tedarowa McMillan, and Jayden Higgins. Dave, how do we feel about this team? I like it. I like the team. This is how I'm probably going to end up building a bunch of my teams this year. And you guys can both attest to me drafting a lot of running backs in general. Do you want to talk about like strategy for your last couple of picks or not. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:10 I mean, that's what we're here for. I think. Yeah. So what Jacob does by taking three backup running backs late is, especially when we're drafting in mid July, which is when you guys did this draft, you're hoping that one of these three picks ends up gaining value between now and the end of Week 1. And so you carry these guys on your team. Hopefully, you're not going to necessarily need to cut one of them because you've got your team built. Most everybody's going to be healthy to start the season. And then after
Starting point is 00:49:39 Week 1, if Croskey Merritt is, you know, inactive and fourth string on the Commanders and JarQuest Hunter's third string on the Rams, whatever, yeah, you're cutting those guys. And you're going to find some other players off the waiver wire, and maybe that comes back to bite you in the behind. Maybe it doesn't. But the whole idea is you're holding these guys through Week 1, just to see what happens. When you're drafting Gough and Kincaid with your last two picks, theoretically, I like those guys better because I know that they're going to be participating all year. I know Jared Goff is never going to be inactive unless he's hurt. Same thing for Dalton Kincaid. He doesn't stink that much. And they've got plenty of upside too. But you're not cutting those guys if they have a bad week one. The only way you're cutting those guys, and it would be
Starting point is 00:50:25 golf that you would cut, is, is if you need a roster spot and you don't, you know, you don't have anybody better to cut. And so you're gonna reluctantly cut one of those guys versus the running backs that you're just hoping gets somebody. So I like going into my season with a bench full of guys that I hope do something in Week 1. And if they don't do anything in Week 1 or even Week 2, yeah, I'm letting them go and trying to help my team get better with somebody off the waiver wire to take their place. As for the build to begin, I like both builds. I do a lot. But I do like the receiver depth a little bit more for Jacob than I do for Thomas. And I guess that's just the thing that I'm going to be about this year is receiver depth, especially again, three receiver league, one flex league, full PPR. And not only did Jacob get that good receiver depth, he's got two running backs that I would be totally happy starting each week in Gentian Ken Walker
Starting point is 00:51:25 I think it's interesting that so Thomas just to compare the receiver depth if you're not looking Thomas has Puka Evans Addison Myers McMillan and Pat Bryant Jacob has Brian Thomas Garrett Wilson Zay Flowers Tett McMillan Jaden Hayes But it's just to me. It's about the first four receivers, not the guys after the first four receivers. Yeah. But I just think it's so interesting that Jacob has seven running backs on his team
Starting point is 00:51:49 and Thomas has four. Because his last three picks were running backs. Yeah. And I don't know if those picks are better off being handcuffed running backs. And in the case of Hunter and Krosky Merritt, we don't even know if they would have a boost in value if the starter got hurt. I think Rochon clearly would. Or a guy like Kin Kade who had a very high target per route run rate was playing hurt
Starting point is 00:52:13 and a guy like Goff who was great. Go ahead, Jamie. I think it's the golf pick. If you're going to invest early in quarterback and Thomas made the investment in Jay Daniels in round three, unless you're taking Somebody who falls that's got so much upside drake may is there maybe caleb williams is there I'm not saying the last pick but you know something in the latter part of the draft like To take jared goff. Dave said it perfectly like if you if you're dropping a guy that's going to be in that 21 22 point per game range when jay and daniels in that 27 point per game range
Starting point is 00:52:41 You're never playing golf over daniels like you're just giving somebody something else because you're just sort of stuck. Now, clearly he can drop, concave, concave sucks. You could drop Pat Bryant and I am surprised. Both. They could be the first drop. I'm sorry. Brian is going to be the first guy he drops. But what I'm getting at, you know, it was like you, you, you just basically put
Starting point is 00:52:58 like a roadblock on your, on your roster in Jared golf, if you're going to invest in quarterback early, I just don't understand taking basically just a fallback option at quarterback. That's the difference, I think, in what Jacob did versus Thomas did. Jacob took a huge swing for somebody who may be the best running back in Washington. I think that's the way Jacob's approaching it. You wouldn't be surprised if he's better than Brian Robinson or Austin Eckler. Forget about the player, just the theory.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Like, you know, you're taking a chance on somebody that may hit big versus you're, you know what you're getting at Jared. He's a, he's an excellent late round quarterback, but if you're going to do that, don't take Daniel's early or just don't take off at all. After this, after today, Jacob might not even have a starting quarterback though. So I have a running quarterback that could potentially get injured. So that's why I have a golf that I can cut. But I mean, Jacob doesn't have a backup quarterback or in a risky tight end.
Starting point is 00:53:56 I don't know. That's kind of how I, I can't see the rest of the board. I don't remember how the last few rounds unfolded, but CJ Stroud is probably available. Yeah, we had this conversation yesterday because Jacob's other team is exactly like this. I don't remember how the last few rounds unfolded, but CJ Stroud is probably available. Yeah, we had this conversation yesterday because Jacob's other team is exactly like this. All he has is Drake May, but there's Jordan Love. There's two, there's Justin Herbert. Yeah, they're all on waivers. They're all on waivers in this league. I mean, I look at Jacob's rosters, teams four and teams 10. And I don't know, he loves to draft his guys with Colson Loveland taking him that early in round eight. Um, I, you know, I think you're running a little bit of a risk. So it might, I think he should have taken Dalton Kincaid, right?
Starting point is 00:54:31 Like that would have made a lot more sense to me. Yeah. But about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about the, about might, I think he should have taken Dalton Kincaid, right? Like that would have made a lot more sense. Yeah. Yeah. But, but actually Thomas went Kincaid one pick before Jacob or like I'm surprised that neither one took Trey Harris where the Roshan and Pat Bryant. Well, Jacob would have been the guy to do that because
Starting point is 00:55:02 Jacob loves rookies. All right. Let's go to Heath and Dan at picks 11 and 12. One last thing and we can touch on this when it comes to Heath's team because Heath also took a quarterback early and then drafted a quarterback with his last pick. This is how we can transition to Heath's team, Adam. Perfect. Look at me doing this. One of the reasons why you might take a quarterback with your last pick like this is because it's a good value. You're still
Starting point is 00:55:25 drafting a player who's got some upside and potential to, you know, maybe start on it. He might be nothing more than a bi-week replacement quarterback, and that sucks. And he's definitely going to be a roster clogger if you've got a great quarterback that you took early on. But if you're trading the guy that you take with your last pick for a player that was taken several rounds before them, that that works out for you too. And that makes your team better by doing so. So there's a case to be made for taking some of these quarterbacks with your last pick and that includes Jared Goff and it includes Anthony Richardson, believe it or not. He took Anthony Richardson with his last pick. So he's had pick 11, Dan had picked 12. Heath went with Malik neighbors. Dan went with Nico Collins. Dan then went, I'm on raw
Starting point is 00:56:09 St Brown. So he starts receiver receiver with Collins and St Brown and Heath goes neighbors Bowers. So I think that, uh, Heath's team and Dan's team couldn't be much more different. And Heath, let's see, Heath was the last guy to take his first running back. Heath waited the longest for his RB1. He is as close to a zero RB team as it gets in this particular draft. He did not- You think there's a lot of difference
Starting point is 00:56:38 between these two teams? Yeah, I kinda disagree. I know. Well, that I disagree with, but I was too strong with my wording, but I think you're too strong with yours. You have two quarterbacks, you have a quarterback and tight end in the first six rounds.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Yeah, but Heath has QB one and tight end one. Correct, but Dan also went two receivers earlier. His receivers may be better. I would think they would be. Dan has a hero RB. To me, it's almost a similar build. I forget about players. Like the build is almost identical. I completely disagree. Heats wide receiver three is Debo Samuel. And that was around seven or eight pick. Yeah, but that's around seven or eight pick. Dan got his RB, his wide receiver three in round four with the first pick
Starting point is 00:57:24 of round four. And, and he's got his RB two one wide receiver three and round four with the first pick around for and, and he's got his RB to one round ahead. I mean, I don't see the difference here. Like I do the first six rounds. They're just one position off. But look at the four rounds. Adam, you're right. It's, it's, it's not that extreme of a difference. Wait, so who is right? Like not exactly the same. that extreme of a difference. Wait, so who's right?
Starting point is 00:57:43 It's also like not exactly the same. Okay. What is the Adam you were right clip? Adam you were right. First four picks for Heath are neighbors, Bowers, Lamar Jackson, JSN. First four picks for Dan are Nico Collins, Amanra St. Brown, Breece Hall, Marvin Harrison.
Starting point is 00:58:01 How about we focus on Heath's strategy here of waiting until round five and late round five, by the way. So the second to last pick around five to take his first running back and then he takes a second running back right after. So he goes neighbors, Bowers, Jackson, JSN and then DeAndre Swift and David Montgomery are his starting running backs.
Starting point is 00:58:24 And then he took Debo Samuel and then he took Travis ETN, Ramon, Dre, Stevenson, and Zach Charbonne. So five running backs within six picks, but his first four picks are neighbors, Bowers Lamar, JSN, then Swift Montgomery, Debo, ETN, Ramon, Dre, Stevenson, Zach Charbonne. Um, Jamie, do you think he did okay there with this, oh, close to zero RB strategy?
Starting point is 00:58:52 I think he did great because he played the draft knowing how everybody's going to pick the guy that he likes a lot, and that's Deandre Swift. And so he has him as a borderline top 15 running back. And so he probably figured, okay, I could get him, you know, sooner than I need to. And I think Montgomery is a pretty good value in this spot. And like, I obviously don't love Bowers with the second pick in round two, but if you take Bowers out there and you put, let's say, Brian Thomas there and you take JSN out and you
Starting point is 00:59:20 put George Kittle. So I was just looking at the philosophy. I love the philosophy of how he put this team together. So he got guys that he loves. And again, broader view of this, he got my QB one. He got my tight end two. He got two top 14, 15 wide receivers and two top 20 running backs, 24 running backs.
Starting point is 00:59:39 So I don't love the Samuel pick again. I don't love where he took powers, but again, the whole scope of it, the start of his team, I think is pretty excellent. Do you guys ever worry? I don't know if you're going to feel as good about, I don't think if you're watching or listening, I don't know if you're going to feel as good about your team. If you take, if you start wide receiver, tight end quarterback, um, you might not be as fortunate
Starting point is 01:00:02 as Heath was. I feel like he is fortunate to have Montgomery and Swift as his running backs. There are RB2s, but to do that when you're starting zero RB, I think that that's good. And so the price he paid for going wide receiver tight end quarterback with his first three picks is being particularly weak at wide receiver three, particularly weak at flex and not having one of those stud running backs. But it's still a good lineup. It's going to be a volatile team. And if it all hits, if neighbors is stud, Bowers is better than expected, Lamar has another MVP year. Hell yeah, man. He's got a playoff team, but it, there's also calamity baked in.
Starting point is 01:00:49 If Jackson regresses, if Bauer's regresses, if neighbors isn't as amazing as he was last year, neighbors was inconsistent last year. And if the running backs don't pan out to their ceilings. So very much a boomer bus team. Yeah. And if the running backs don't pan out to their ceilings. So very much a boomer bus team. Yeah, I think that I would push back a little bit on how amazing Malik neighbors was last year. He turned 170 targets into 1,204 yards and seven touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:01:19 He basically, what was he? He was why we say receiver six overall, he's why receiver eight per game, but 170 targets in 15 games I feel like people are expecting 200 targets from Malik neighbors and it's just not going to happen I just don't think he's gonna have that high of a target share again target per route run rate again he might but I think he might I'm okay you know forget it's really a tangent because he deserves to go 11th overall so forget it I just it's, it's really the waiting on RB and I don't, I don't think he did anything wrong unless
Starting point is 01:01:49 he takes Derek Henry in round two. And then he has the anchor hero running back, but he wanted to take Bowers there, but I don't, you know, he, I don't think he should have taken a running back over Lamar Jackson around three. I don't think he should have taken any of the available running backs like Chuba Hubbard or Amari and Hampton or Camara over Jackson Smith and Jigba in round four. So he really played the board and took the best values and Swift and Montgomery at worst feels like they're going to be RB 20 to 24. So good job. I want to play to Jamie's point about something. And this is about knowing who you draft with. And most of you guys that are watching and listening,
Starting point is 01:02:28 you draft with the same people pretty much year after year. Jamie, how many drafts and Adam, you too, how many drafts have you done with Dan Schneider? Mocs? 50. Yeah. How often does Dan take a quarterback with one of his first four picks?
Starting point is 01:02:41 And he did do that in this draft with his pick at six. Oh, sorry. With the 16. Yeah. So it hurts. Yeah. Like would he have considered Lamar at the three, four turns? Yes. Yes. Okay. Then he did the right thing by taking Lamar over a Breece Hall or an O'Marian Hampton, somebody like that in round three. Okay. Just curious. That's an example of knowing who you're drafting with. All right. Let's go to Dan's team. Dan goes and takes something, somebody that Heath would have taken. Dan takes Nico Collins and Amanra St. Brown with his first two picks, then Breece Hall, then Marvin Harrison Jr. So heavy on wide receiver, Nico St. Brown, Breece Hall, Marvin Harrison Jr. You heard Jamie say, let's have fun with it and take four wide
Starting point is 01:03:23 receivers, take JSN instead of Breece Hall and go Nico St. Brown, JSN, Marvin Harrison Jr. You heard Jamie say, let's have fun with it and take four wide receivers. Take JSN instead of Breeze hall and go Nico St. Brown, JSN, Marvin Harrison Jr. But he goes Nico Amonra, Breeze hall, Marvin Harrison Jr. Then the next two picks are super interesting. Could have taken David Montgomery could have taken Ted McMillan, uh, Ted Arroyo McMillan. I don't think he likes to be called Ted Jordan Addison, Jamison Williams, Chris Garland, Calvin Ridley, Cooper cup, Jalen Watt, Ricky Pearsall, Isaiah Pacheco, Caleb Johnson, George Pickett's,
Starting point is 01:03:47 all these guys. He takes Sam Laporta and he takes Patrick Mahomes. And in many ways, it feels like those picks are going to make or break his team at the five, six turn Sam Laporta, Patrick Mahomes. Jamie, did you like those two picks? No, I needed to Dan. Oh, no. No, he immediately regretted it. And good. It's a learning experience. What do what do we not like about it? I just think that there's too much volatility with those two guys, given what we saw last year for Laporta and the last
Starting point is 01:04:19 two years from a homes, I don't want to take both those guys. And so especially if you just like look at the previous turn that he had also like there's a lot of volatility with Hall and Harrison. And so it's like, there's huge upside, obviously. But I think just knowing like, not that he went safe with his first two picks, but those are pretty safe. First two picks, Nico Collins and Mara St. Brown, like they're they should be awesome. Top five caliber wide receivers. Not a lot of downside potentially barring injury. Like it just feels pretty solid there. So you can
Starting point is 01:04:53 maybe play with that a little bit in terms of okay I could take some chances on some spots and look, Breeze Hall is going to be a little polarized to some people. Obviously Harrison is as well. I just think like if you're going to commit to tight end and wide receiver, tight end and quarterback with those two spots, like I want slam dunks and I don't think those guys are slam dunks. My question though is agree with everything you said, but are there any slam dunks that he could have taken? Who would you have taken instead of Laporta and Mahomes after starting Nico St. Brown, Breece Hall, Marvin Harrison? What would your next two picks have been?
Starting point is 01:05:24 I would have probably taken Jameson Williams with one of those two picks, just to get that third receiver and lock that up. And then if you want to take one of those other two guys, I'm fine with it. I just want to take him. Well, yeah, that would have been his fourth receiver and he already had St. Brown. So does that change the equation? Maybe so. So could been But he took Laporta. They're on the same team. They are true. He could have taken Godwin if you know, this was before he was placed on the Publist, could have taken Ridley, could have taken, you know, Waddle.
Starting point is 01:05:50 There's lots of different routes, Pickens, you know, there's lots of receivers that were available, I think that fit in that category. You know, or taking Montgomery. Yeah, I wouldn't have a problem taking Montgomery and St. Brown on the same fantasy team. Yep. Not sure I'd have a problem taking St. Brown and St. Brown on the same fantasy team. Yep. Not sure I'd have a problem taking St. Brown and Jameson Williams on the same fantasy team. Yeah. But would you take all three? That's an interesting choice. Who's the third, the Porter or Montgomery?
Starting point is 01:06:16 Montgomery and Jameson Williams. Like I have those two guys ranked ahead of Laporta. That feels a little rich. Yeah. I don't, I think he was in a tough spot personally. I didn't think there was a, like a layup slam dunk pick there. At what 60 and 61. Did you, do you feel that way, Dave? Like he goes to Laporta and my homes. Did you feel like there was a, there was an obvious pick you should have made instead of those two? I probably would have taken a running back there. I don't think I would have taken Mahomes.
Starting point is 01:06:48 There are definitely too many other players that I would have taken. I think I probably, I'm looking at my rankings as I say this, I think my top two rated players were Montgomery and Travis Hunter. Hunter would have been interesting. And I think I would have taken those two guys. Judy would have been a consideration at that point.
Starting point is 01:07:06 When did Travis Hunter go? He was gone. He was gone. He was gone way before that. Oh, he was. OK. Then what do I do? He was too. So I'm sorry. I was looking at the take. Hey, damn it. Look at you messing up the show again. Montgomery. So if Hunter's gone, then my next available would have been Jamison. All right. That would have been a lot of lions. So how did Dan's team turn out? Patrick Mahomes and Sam Laporta. Those were his only quarterbacks and tight ends. Brace Hall, Tyrone
Starting point is 01:07:37 Tracy, Tank Bigsby, Rico Dowdell. Yikes. I'm making a face like someone cut a fart. This is not a good guy. We will make this team a lot better. If he had said the reporter moms, Nico Collins, I'm on resting Brown, Marvin Harrison. That's the strength of the team right there. Jayden Reed, Keon Coleman, Marvin Mims, Jack Besh and Deandre Hopkins. Maybe take a handcuff running back instead of one of those wide receivers at the end. Give yourself a chance. You could have had Braylon Allen.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Would have made some sense for Brice Hall. Well, that's it for today's show. Big day today. Dave, how old are you? I'm so excited. He's telling people he's 50, in case you couldn't have heard it. Jamie, how old is Dave? How old is Dave? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:30 He's not 50. I think you're 49. No, I think you're 48. I was yesterday. Oh man. Thanks for hanging out with us on your birthday, buddy. Enjoy it. Have an awesome day. And next year we'll plan something big. A lot of balloons. Thank you, everybody. He loves balloons.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Oh yeah. Amy knows how much I love having balloons. All kinds of BS on my desk and stuff. Can we tell that story again? It hasn't been told in a while. Go ahead and plan that. No, you're telling that story if anybody's planning to tell me. So, me and one of our former coworkers, Mike Friedman, who Adam loves, uh, we, um,
Starting point is 01:09:11 we made a balloon arch for Dave. Sorry. I hit the microphone. Balloon arch for Dave above his desk and printed a bunch of pictures of Dave's face and put them on the mug on the balloons and we put them all over the office. And Dave used to hate his birthday. I don't know what changed, but he used to hate his birthday birthday and he came in the office and he saw it and he went absolutely nuts. Oh I lost my, I can't say the words then you'll have to edit the show but here
Starting point is 01:09:37 I will uh let's see if you can see the picture. I went eight poop you have the picture? Of course I have the picture. I send it on your birthday every day. I sent it to the text chain with Mike. Like I know you've got like the best memory of anybody I know. But you say that you've got Oh my gosh, look at that. Okay, so like they totally like over decorated my this back when we had desks, totally over over like, went crazy. You put stuff everywhere you were just so pissed off. By the way, my desk
Starting point is 01:10:04 was so messy back then. It was terrible. We put pictures, pictures of Dave in his drawers. So like when he opened his drawers, there was his face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He really violated my personal space. Jamie, remember when we used to have desks? Yeah.
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