Fantasy Football Today - Kupp Reaction; Players We Don't Talk About Enough (09/01 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 1, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts Cooper Kupp had a setback with his hamstring and now he may be falling out of the first round, or even out of the second round! We react to the injury to start the show (1:10) plus talk more about the Dolphins backfield and other news items ... Jamey has to defend his J.K. Dobbins breakout call (19:50), then we have the Offense-o-Meter (25:25) which rates offenses like the Jaguars, Lions, Giants, Ravens, Steelers and others to see how much faith we have in them ... Players We Don't Talk About Enough (31:00)! Dallas Goedert, Mike Williams, Tyler Lockett, Aaron Jones and more. Then we've got your tweets (45:30) and some Superflex talk (57:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Well, this just feels right, doesn't it? Thursday night, watching some football. Yes, it's college football, but that's okay. Thursday nights are made for football, so it is a wonderful time of year. It's August 31st, but for most of you as you're listening, it's September 1st or September something. And it's a big draft weekend coming up. And my gosh, is Cooper Cup out of the first round now?

I just did fantasy football today in five with Chris Towers, and he has him 25th overall. So we'll find out where Jamie and Heath have Cooper Cup as he had a setback with his hamstring injury. And I think Sean McVay has flipped the meaning of the word day and week when he described the injury. So we'll talk about that in a moment. We welcome you to this edition here.

We have an email about J.K. Dobbins. Jamie, I hope you're ready to answer that one. We've got your exes coming on the show today. And by that, I mean tweets. And let's get to it. Cooper Cup, day-to-day after a setback with his hamstring injury. And I was making a joke that it's probably more like week-to-week, but who knows. All right, is he a first-round pick? Is he a second round pick Heath?

What do you think about who Cooper cup and this setback? It's definitely a second round pick and half PPR full PPR. I'm still kind of right on the fence. I mean, it's tough because it's Thursday night and I know people have to make decisions on Thursday night. Hopefully we'll get a little more information in the next 24 hours before the biggest draft weekend of the year happens. But listen, I'd already downgraded him a little bit. I think it's important to acknowledge that when fully healthy, he projects for more fantasy points than any other wide receiver.

What he's done the last year and a half when he's been healthy has been like 10% 15 better than any other wide receiver so i was already downgraded him for risk a little bit but one two turn is where i'm at right now is that behind stefan day who which receivers and okay digs i already had him behind tyreek digs is the only other receiver that i moved in blind okay uh barkley oh you had probably had him behind Barkley. Bijan. Any other running backs? Pollard. Behind Barkley, behind Bijan, and behind Kelsey.

Okay. All right, Jamie, how about you? The two-three turn. Like, I'm concerned. I mean, you know, it's not just that this is the second recurrence of this injury. This is a 30-year-old receiver. This is a quarterback with, you know, it's not just that this is the second recurrence of this injury. This is a 30-year-old receiver. This is a quarterback with, you know, some health issues. And soft tissue injuries can be a problem all year long.

So you might be in a great situation if you draft Justin Jefferson and there's Cooper Cupps sitting there when you come back. I think that's worth the gamble. But I can't take him in the first round by any stretch. And for me, it's going to be like, you know, I'm, I'm concerned about Devante Adams. It's the same thing, you know, aging receiver that, you know, now has an issue. And so he's going to be behind for me, um, behind Adams, behind Jalen Waddle and in the same range as like Devante Smith and Chris Olave. Like that's where he is.

That's what Chris said. Chris said he had him behind Smithante Smith and Chris Olave. Like that's where he is. That's what Chris said. Chris said he had him behind Smith, Olave and Higgins. I probably will keep him ahead of Higgins, but behind Smith and Olave. Yeah. That's what I said. I said,

Higgins, you know, the last two years, if you look at Higgins, when he's been on the field with Jamar chase, uh, 2021 Higgins was something right around 15 fantasy points per game. Maybe it was right around wide receiver 15.

And then last year in the games games he played with a healthy Chase and his healthy games, Higgins' healthy games, he actually averaged about the same exact amount of fantasy points. So it does feel like, as much as we like Higgins, to me it feels like he's got a little bit of a ceiling there. Cupp's ceiling is most valuable player in fantasy. I'd say I have Higgins behind Ridley at this point. You do now?

Yeah. Heath, how about you? You have Hiddly or Riggins? No, I'm still above Ridley. It's because of what you just said. His ceiling is still the most valuable player in fantasy. No, no, I meant Higgins or Ridley. Higgins or Ridley?

I've got Higgins ahead of Ridley. Okay. Okay, so look. Heath and Jamie told you what they think. I told you what Chris thinks. I wish we had more information. Where are you drafting? I mean, he said we're going to get more information tomorrow. I don't think we're getting more information tomorrow. You know, Sean McVay basically laid it out for you, you know. And Sean McVay, didn't he say something like, we don't want him to just come back. We want him to come back and be healthy, be effective, be effective. Where am I? Which is what you want to hear. You would rather him miss two games. If he misses two games and then he's Cooper Cup from the last two years for 15 weeks,

he was worth a first round pick. If he's there week one and then he gets dinged and then he misses partial time and then he's never Cooper Cup, that's not what you want. Yeah. He's he's about over the last two years, the games he's played with Matthew Stafford, he's never a Cooper Cup. That's not what you want. Yeah. He's about, over the last two years, the games he's played with Matthew Stafford, he's over 25 fantasy points per game or right around there.

And that's, what, Jefferson last year, I think was about 22 to 23. And he's just so much better. What I said, I had him middle of round two was my gut reaction after Garrett Wilson. Like, basically the same as waddle. Uh, so in between the two of you, it's just, it's just entirely, it's not a math equation. It's not a value equation. It's just a, it's a risk reward equation. Cause nobody's going to

make the argument that Gary Garrett Wilson, Gary Wilson, or CD lamb or Devante Adams or AJ Brown. Like those guys don't have Cooper cup ceiling and nobody would make the argument. They do. Right. They're just all a lot safer. And you have to decide, are you drafting based on the upside or based on the floor? All right. There you go. Different opinions, but not all that different on Cooper cup. Yeah. Let's see. How about, how about Rams, by the way,

without Cup? Tyler Higbee, Van Jefferson, Puka Nakua. Jamie, are you feeling anyone now? Any boosts here? No, just because we don't know how long Cup is going to be out. I don't want to overreact.

Van Jefferson is my 61st wide receiver. Puka is like 65, 70, you know, not far behind him. It's like, this is, this is bad. They're just, this was a, for the most part of one man show, you know, and, and there there's, there's going to be opportunities clearly, you know, Van Jefferson has a good moments in 2021 when Matthew Stafford was healthy. You've heard nothing but positive things about Puka,

this training camp, this offseason, you know, since they drafted him. Higby obviously is going to get targets, and, you know, you still put him in the borderline top 12 tight end range. But, I mean, this is just bad. Like, it makes me want to stay further away from Cam Akers because they're not going to score very much. You know, hopefully like he said it's it's two weeks you know he heals up and and he's back to being cooper cup but if this lingers and you know he comes back plays a couple games not right you know shuts it down for a few weeks soft tissue injuries linger man it's it's

it's it's tough it's we had that um matthew Stafford having a tough time connecting with his teammates story that came out. I will say the one guy he's not having a hard time connecting with is Tyler Higbee. Those guys are on the same page. And so I do think if Cup is out for week one, this strengthens the idea of Tyler Higbee as a guy you draft to start week one with one of those rookie tight ends. And then if one of the rookie tight ends is actually as involved as all the training camp reports say, then maybe you can start them over Higby in week two. But I I'd feel okay about starting Higby week one, if there's no cup.

So earlier this evening, I asked Jamie if we were still good for an eight 30 start time. And he said, yes. And Heath required Heath replied with this gift here of Mr. Mackie going, okay. And as Jamie was sitting there saying,

this is bad, this is bad. I was just thinking Rams are bad. Okay. I just keep going back to, we, we did a super flex draft this afternoon. And at the end of it,

Joel Cox is one of our executives at CVS. He types in the chat room, just a healthy Matthew staff, or just is one of our executives at CVS. He types in the chat room, just stay healthy, Matthew Stafford. Just stay healthy, Matthew Stafford. Just stay healthy, Matthew Stafford. And I feel like, poor guy. Yeah. Well, thanks for jinxing everybody with the Bake Burger Dynasty League.

You got Kopp. You got Taylor on there. That's what I was going to say. I should probably go ahead and read the rest of the Bake Burger Dynasty League roster that I drafted so everybody knows who's going to get hurt from this point forward because that was my second and my third round pick um is that kelsey what's that kelsey kelsey in round four fields in round one i've got aaron jones joe mixon johan dotson damian pierce like trade those guys no but in all in all honesty like just put cup on pup for a month anyways i can win

without those two for now cup on pup i think that was in fox and socks if i ever oh no hop i was that and he can't go on pup now anyway it's too late i are all right so uh jeff wilson is on ir as we talked about at the very end of our thursday morning show but it seems like it could be a long absence here. Injuries to his midsection and his fingers. And whenever your coach is saying, and Mike McDaniel saying, we're optimistic about him coming back this season, it obviously tells you it's not looking

like a four-week injury here. I think his agent, though, came out tonight and said something different. Said that they were hoping that he would be back after the minimum stay okay uh all right well that's good um i just you know just today we had our super flex draft and i took raheem mostert ahead of aj dylan so did i reach heath did i go go gadget arms reach for raheem mostert? Well, was Jalen Warren off the board already? I think so. I think so. I mean, I think that's really, like, once he's gone,

then you can start looking for the other deep sleepers. I would say that that is round 9-10 range is a good place for Raheem Mostert. I love it. I'm not the only one. No, I don't think he reached. I think that's the right spot for him. A.J. Dillon really fell. So it was Raheem Mostert, A.J. Dillon,

and then Chris took Devon A-Chain in that same round. Rashaun Johnson was still on the board. Tank Bigsby was still on the board. So look, man, Mostert's a starter right now. He's got to be. Look, they could sign someone. But Mostert was really good. Well, I shouldn't say that because sometimes

the fantasy points weren't that good, but he was really involved. What did I say? 16 or more touches, 15 or more touches in five straight games before they acquired Jeff Wilson. And then I forgot about that Buffalo game late in the year. He was great, right? Didn't he have a great game? So, it's

appealing. Alright, any thoughts he if you want to we talked about it on the show earlier you want to say your thoughts on mostert i think he's a he's around nine round ten pick a good option if you've gone zero rb and you want to have a couple of guys you can start week one and then stack the the zach charbonnet jaylen war like those kind of guys that you can't start quite yet. He fits really well into that type of build. He's not someone that you should draft and think you're going to be able to start him for two or three months.

It's probably not going to last that long. They got the Chargers in week one, and the Chargers are, they have been for two straight years now, I believe, just absolutely terrible against the run. They're going to need to do a lot to improve there. So that could be a really good start of the week, Jamie.

Doubt it, but he's going to be in the starting or sleeping section. All right. TJ Hawkinson signed a four-year extension worth at least $66 million with $42.5 million guaranteed. Is he tight end four for anyone on this show? Is he for you, Heath? Tight end four? Yeah. Yes, he's tight end four.

Tight end three. Is he tight end three for anyone on this show? I think he's tight end three for me. Okay. I think he's tight end three for most people. Yeah. Right, but not for you, Jamie. Is he for Dave?

I would think so. Dave and Heath both have Waller as bus, so I can't imagine anybody's hired him. Okay. That's a stupid question then. There are no stupid questions, just stupid people I've been told many times. Elijah Mitchell returned to practice

after missing time with an adductor strain. Did you guys, was there a report or just a speculation today about Christian McCaffrey not having the same workload? I didn't see anything, so. I saw a speculation. I did not see a report. I think it was an ESPN, just like something that could happen, surprising thing that could happen on every team. I think what it was was that he would not have the same workload that he had in Carolina.

And I don't think he had that work at the end of last year. So that shouldn't be a surprise. Sure. Um, Cincinnati has a good plan in place to get Joe Burrow ready for week one, according to their offensive coordinator, Brian Callahan. I moved him back up ahead of Herbert cause he came back to practice. Okay.

Saints running back. Kendry Miller has another injury. This one's a hamstring. Yeah. Off your sleep. Yeah. Is he off your sleepers list? Yeah, of course.

Washington defensive end Chase Young is still out with a stinger. By the way, I haven't really talked about DSTs, but if you are one that just streams DSTs, Washington does have Arizona in week one. I'm always looking for them. It seems like they've been taken pretty early in recent

drafts. Jacksonville also a good one. Yeah. They have the Houston Texans, is it? Indy. Oh, they have Indy. That's right. New England wide receiver Taequann Thornton is on IR.

He'll miss at least four games. What are your thoughts on the Patriots wide receivers? We don't talk about them much. And that's kind of the topic of today's show is players. We don't talk about much. There's a reason I don't mind Juju as a, as a fourth receiver. You know, I think from, from what everything I saw in the initial part of

training camp, we didn't really see it in any preseason action, but that that's just the guy Mac Jones was looking for all the time, seven on seven, 11 on 11, whatever they were doing in practice, joint practice sessions. He was looking for all the time. 7-on-7, 11-on-11, whatever they were doing in practice. Joint practice sessions, he was looking for him. And I'll say this. The Bailey Zappi news makes me a little bit more encouraged

about the Patriots passing game. Not that I think it's going to be spectacular, but that they're confident in Mac Jones because there was talk about maybe Bailey Zappi being the starter. So that they feel comfortable enough with Mac Jones. Not that he's going to be a world beater by any stretch but can he get the job done for the guys that matter so Devante Parker's free you know I would not be surprised if after week one week two he has a five for 70 type of game he had some good moments last year he just about had some injuries

that were sitting here on a Tuesday saying Devontae Parker with one of your last round waiver ads, especially if you're a Cooper Cup manager, play some on IR. But Juju is somebody that I've taken as a fourth receiver, and I'm not worried about that. I do kind of wonder if one of, and they've both had so many injuries, like I don't know how many weeks not playing on the same team that Juju and Devontae Parker have both been 100% healthy. But I do wonder if those two cannibalize each other a little bit. And if one of them goes down, then the other one actually becomes a reliable option. And we also saw the preseason Kendrick Bourne making a lot of plays for them. Gusecki's been banged up. I think he said he was a little unsure about his week one status too. So they have a lot of interesting parts. There's nobody that I think you're saying,

really the only Patriot you should be saying I'm starting is Ramondre Stevenson. But, you know, outside of, looking at the receiving core, there's going to be some guys I think that will be on and off a lot of fantasy rosters. He might even drop Juju at some point, but you could see some strong games for him too. Tennessee wide receiver Kyle Phillips is on IR. Detroit edge rusher Julian Ok Kyle Phillips is on IR. Detroit edge rusher Julian O'Quara is on IR.

And Joe Montana said that Dan Marino is the best quarterback ever. How about that? You know, I was on a South Florida podcast this morning, and Jonathan Zaslow, you know, I think you guys know him in some capacity. I know, yeah. So he was asking me about that, and, you know, obviously I got a chance to watch Marino most of my life

and covered him at the end of his career. I covered him his last season when I was at my first job with the Boca Ratones. It's hard to argue that there's a lot of guys that have thrown the ball better than him. It's just unfortunate, you know, he never got the Super Bowl. And the thing I brought up was, you know know when he got to that 84 super bowl i was i was too young to remember this but most people thought oh he's going to 10 you know i mean that was that season that he had you know 5 000 yards and uh 40 some odd touchdowns whatever it was um was just ridiculous and there's there's a twitter handle i think it's dolphinstalk.com, if I'm not mistaken.

They post Dan's daily throw or something like that. It just gives me goosebumps every time I see it. I want to see that. X handle? Yeah. And I think it's interesting because Montana and Marino were largely the same time. And Montana won and Marino was better.

There's a lot more highlights of Marino throws, rightly so, than Montana. But I don't know how you make the argument that Marino is the goat over Brady. Yeah, the thing that I'll always say is he's never going to go down as the best because of the Super Bowls. And obviously Brady's just been ridiculous. But if you're just talking about players to play that position, it's, it's hard to argue. There's a lot of people better than him, you know, and he, it, it was, it was, it was a joy to watch him play the game,

you know? And like, I wish, I wish I was older to appreciate it, you know, cause it's just being a kid, you know, you lived and died with it as at that age for me when I was still a fan. But, you know, he ran into a lot of great Buffalo teams at the prime of his career, and then he had the Achilles injury. But, my gosh, I could talk about him all day. Yeah, so can this Twitter account. My goodness.

Well, actually. Did I get it right? I don't know. But I am on DolphinsTalk.com's Twitter account, and they post too much. I'm sorry. There's just way too much stuff here. I haven't seen one Dan Burrito thing. There's like Dan Burrito bobblehead or something like that.

All right, we're going to take a break here. When we come back, let's see what we have for you. We have a lot of stuff here. We have the email of the day, and we have the offense-o-meter and players we don't talk about a lot, and then your tweets, your Xs, right after this. Did you know 66% of utility damage is caused by not requesting a locate? Don't let your project become part of this statistic.

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Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. Time for the email of the day. Our email address is FantasyFootball at CBSi.com and if you want more emails, wait for our mailbag show. That one's going to be fun. This one is from Trevor. I think I'm hearing wrong every time he comes up.

J.K. Dobbins. CBS has the earliest ADP on Dobbins, and your guys love him there. The other experts have him as an avoid at their later ADPs. On top of the injury history, he's never had more than 17 touches in a game. The offense is moving to more passing, and he's not really a pass catcher. They added Melvin Gordon to the already crowded running back room. he's not really a pass catcher. They added Melvin Gordon to the already crowded running back room. Oh, Jamie's going to crush you

for that Melvin Gordon. He's not going to be impressed with that one. So what's the thought process here? What are you guys seeing that everyone else is missing on J.K. Dobbins? And real quick, before you answer, Jamie, I cannot speak to the accuracy that every other fantasy analyst

doesn't like J.K. Dobbins. That doesn't really sound right to me, but maybe the people that Trevor listened to don't like Dobbins as much as you do. So, go ahead. You can defend it. Listen, everything that he said aside from the Melvin Gordon is not inaccurate.

He hasn't had that type of season or that type of performance yet, but the hope is that with the offense trending in a more pass-happy direction that he will be involved in that. And I think it's unfair to say that he can't do it because he did it at Ohio State. And so we just haven't seen it in the NFL yet. There's a reason why his touches have been capped.

His rookie season, he was being sort of handled a little bit with kid gloves, and we started to see him get unleashed toward the end of that. His second season, he missed. And his third season, he was coming back from the ACL tear, and they were trying to, I think, manage his touches there until he got fully healthy melvin gordon is not on the active roster so you don't have to worry about him so it's really just gus edwards and justice hill the same guys that have been there obviously lamar jackson is going to you know take a share of carries as well but this is why we do what we do you know we project guys to have breakout seasons

and breakout campaigns and i think that's going to happen for him this year. So do I target him a little bit aggressively? Yes, because I'm, I'm excited about the season I'm expecting him to have. Did I take him in another draft again today? Yeah, I did. You know,

it just gets to a point where it falls to, um, to a point where, um, okay. He's, he's my best player on the board. I'm not going to pass him up because I am expecting him to have that year.

Am I going to look silly when it doesn't? Sure. I'm going to lose a lot of fantasy games, a lot of fantasy leagues potentially, because in a few cases, when I go heavy on receiver, that's my number one running back. But I'm confident that if he stays healthy year two after an ACL in this offense, that I think is going to be very productive. I think he's going to have his best season and not by a small margin, by significant margin heath what i don't know where you actually are on dobbins i agnostic um i don't know that i have a strong take i've got him at pick 50 around rb 20 and full ppr so that might be slightly ahead of where the average is and i and i wonder if like because it was just like a week or two ago that you looked at CBS ADP and it was all mixed in. The standard CBS ADP is non-PPR.

Well, he's a top 12 running back in non-PPR. The only real question for me, it doesn't have anything to do with Dobbins' talent. I think he's an extreme, or at least was before the injury, an extremely talented rusher. I don't think he has problems catching the ball. I don't know if Lamar will check down enough. And that's going to be a really interesting thing is like how many times when Lamar's in trouble, does he just take off or have they kind of worked the check down into the game a little bit? And it goes to Dobbins.

If that happens, then I think Dobbins could have a top 12 PPR season too. And I'm not, I'm not expecting 50 catches. You know, he doesn't have to do that to be in the range where you're drafting him or even where the range i'm expecting him to go i i think you're looking at you know what we've been hoping for derrick henry the last couple of seasons you know 35 to 40 catches if he does that and then runs the way he's capable right i mean this is a guy that can average six yards per carry you know it's he's done that you know his his stretch at the end of the season forget the amount of games but you know he was 6.7 yards per carry. So he's explosive.

The offense will be better. They should score more. If everybody stays healthy there, which is a big ask. I mean, Lamar Jackson has missed a lot of time in the last two years. But I think this is going to be the year where he just sort of takes that and steps forward. So it's up to you if you want to buy it or not. I get it.

And I think where Heath hasn't ranked is we're probably more appropriate to the risk that you have to bake into what has happened to him so i i get that again i'm just being aggressive with the player that i like yeah not that aggressive though i mean 48 the last time i we did a draft together other than super flex took him 48th and or maybe i think you took him 49th maybe jonte johnson jk dobbins i believe at the turn um you're talking about the pick-by-pick. Yeah, right? Yeah, so, and then his ADP on CBS is something like 55. His ADP on Fantasy Pros for J.K. Dobbins is like 63, so it's about a round. It's nothing crazy, and also, the good thing about having a player that

you love and you take all the time, if you take him after the, you know, in round five, you're not going to lose a lot of leagues if he doesn't hit. I mean, for me, last year was probably Cortland Sutton, and that crushed me. We all know what a big disaster DJ Moore was for me last year. I won two or three leagues where I took DJ Moore in round three. You don't lose your league because of a bad round three pick. Right, but you certainly don't do it because of a bad round five pick. I'll say this.

There's only one league where I've drafted and where I have real concerns, and it's because I went Jefferson, Mahomes, Olave, Dobbins, and Christian Watson, and then my second running back is Kamara. So those are eventually my starting running backs. And so if Dobbins goes down there, I could be in trouble. That's the one league that stands out to me.

Like, oh, I probably should have had a little bit more, a little better drafting of running backs there. All right. Time for something called the offense-o-meter. If Kansas City is a 10. I did get Jalen Warren. Hey, nice. If Kansas City is a 10,

where are these offenses on the offensive meter from 0 to 10? Jacksonville. Oh, Heath would have loved Pete's take last night. I'm just really enjoying, like, I like it when everybody else gets to be a little bit of a homer too. And Pete is all the way in on Jacksonville. Yeah, he said their offense will be up there and close to the Chiefs. So he'd probably give them a nine on this. Well, you sort of steered him into that, though.

Why? I asked him. He said they're going to be one of the better offenses. You said the Chiefs, and he just said up there. I had to. But he picked them to win the one seed, right? He picked them to go to the Super Bowl. Yeah. His solo matchup is San Fran-Jacksonville.

But you know what, though? They're now I don't want to say they are, but the driver's seat to get the one seed, it's hard to say it's the AFC West and the AFC East and even the AFC North.

Let's not do this to the Chiefs again. Let's not do this to the Chiefs again. Let's not do this to the Chiefs again. No, no, no. I'm just saying, if the Chargers stay healthy, they're going to be a threat, and the Chiefs have a tougher schedule than Jacksonville does. If Jacksonville takes that step like they're capable of,

they should obliterate the division, and they're playing the NFC South. Yeah, it's true. Where are they on the offensive leader? What's the rating? Zero to 10. 10 is the Chiefs. Zero is the, I don't know.

I would say seven and a half, eight. Okay. Yeah, I think, and this is the part that I haven't heard Pete talk about. And maybe he just has a different opinion than all the rating services and PFF and everybody. I think if you're talking fantasy players or skill position players, they might be an 8 or a 9. But everything that I see has Jacksonville in the bottom five in terms of offensive line. And most places have them just barely ahead of Tennessee as the second worst offensive line. And that counts for real football, as Pete would say, not the fantasy game.

So I'll say a seven. You would have absolutely enjoyed Pete and Adam talking Anthony Richardson last night. Oh, no, I didn't miss a lot of that. I probably watched 30 minutes of the Pete portion of the draft-a-thon, and it was fantastic. I really loved that Nando was just relentless on the absolute stone-cold fact that Adam had never played that game before in his immaculate grid. No idea.

No, I have. I swear. I love the way that adam like acted like he definitely did and by the time we got 10 minutes in i played once i played football once but i played the baseball version of it before too but they told me they gave me kind of confusing directions unfortunately because they all right forget it anyway um let's go through this here because i basically what i want to know is how much faith you have. Sometimes, you know, you stumble into great fantasy production

because an offense is a lot better than you thought. I think about the Seahawks last year as, you know, that team. So I want to know the faith you have in these offenses. Jacksonville, let's say they're a seven or an eight. Seattle, again, let's do Seattle. Eight and a half. If I'm giving Jacksonville, I'll give Jacksonville an eight.

I'll give Seattle a seven. Jets. Six and a half. Five. Lions. Seven. Seven. Ravens.

Eight. Eight. Giants are a ten. Okay, Steelers. Now, Giants. Ravens. Eight. Eight. Giants are a 10. Okay, Steelers. No, Giants. Giants. Three? Oh, three.

Come on. They're terrible. What are you talking about? Let's go. Let's make a bet. Let's do something. Let's make a bet. All right.

Where do you think they're going to finish in total points, points per game? Somewhere below 16. And that's a three? No, you got to be a total points, points per game? Somewhere below 16. And that's a three? No, you got to be a little more specific if you're giving them a three. Well, 16 would be a five, so it's a four or a three. All right, so are you saying they're a bottom 10 team?

That's kind of what you're saying. I'll take top 16 for the Giants. I'll take bottom 12, and anything in the middle is a tie. I'll take top 12, and you take bottom 12? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Okay, fine. I don't think they're necessarily going to be top 12, and anything in the middle is a tie. I'll take top 12? You take bottom 12? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Okay, fine.

I don't think they're necessarily going to be top 12, but okay. What metric? Points? Or yards? Points per game. Offensive points per game. Yeah, offensive points per game. I'm not counting.

Winks points don't count. Fair. Jamie, what was your number for the Giants? Six and a half. Why are the Giants even on this list? We talked about all these exciting offenses, and you throw the Giants on there. a half. Why are the Giants even on this list? We talked about all these exciting offenses. Can I tell you who the next head coach is going to be? The next head coach is going to be Mike Kafka,

the Giants offensive coordinator. He is fantastic. Who's the Giants' next head coach going to be? It's going to be Brian Dable. And you watch, they're going to run things. Steelers. Steelers. Five with a chance to be a seven.

Yeah, five. Falcons. Falcons. Four. Five. Packers. Four. Four.

Bears. Three. Six. Browns. Five. Four. Bears. Three. Six. Oh. Browns. Five. Four. All right.

Players we don't talk about enough. Dallas Goddard. We don't talk enough about Dallas Goddard. Last year, he was the number five tight end per game in PPR, number six per game in non-PPR. That was with only three touchdowns in 12 games. He was on pace for just under 1,000 yards and 78 catches on 98 targets,

and he has basically been the most efficient tight end in the NFL. It's either him or Kittle, basically. Over the last three seasons, Goddard has ranked eighth, first, and first in percentage of catches that gain 16 or more yards among tight ends with 50 or more targets, and he's been number one in yards per target among tight ends,

two straight seasons. Heath, we don't talk enough about Dallas Goddard. Where is he in your tight end rankings? Give me upside and downside. Yeah, I'm more of the upside guy. So somebody else might give the downside.

This is somebody, and I think we all have these guys, Adam, for you, it seems to be Jalen Warren that we get to the last week of draft season. And I like, I don't have enough of that guy. You just start drafting him. Whether it's time to draft him in the rankings or not, you just start drafting him. That's where I've been with Dallas Goddard because of what you said. tight end with pretty rotten touchdown luck. And I know he hasn't had a big touchdown season for counting stats, but on a per target basis, he's been much better than he was last year.

And that all happened without any injuries to A.J. Brown or Devontae Smith. So I think Hawkinson, I think Goddard is a very solid top six or seven tight end for the year. And if A.J. Brown or Devontae Smith suffer an injury, he's got tight end two upside. Do you guys like him significantly better than Kittle?

I feel like in my mind I do, but I don't have it ranked that way. You know, it's because I agree with everything he said. You know, it feels as if, like, to me, there's four guys. To whatever degree you want to draft them, look at them, it's Kelsey, Andrews, Waller, and Hawkinson for me. And then there's the guy in the middle, which is Pitts, which can go either way. He could be top three or he could be bottom 15.

You know what I mean? It's like one of those, he's got so many variances of outcomes. Then right after Pitts, it's like, okay, Goddard to me always, every time I think of him, I just think safe. And it's probably not fair to think about him in terms of the same upside because like he said, one injury away, he could be great. We saw last season in the Super Bowl, Eagles and Chiefs in the back and forth game, Goddard was a superstar.

And so when you think about the run game for, for Philly, if it's stagnant and they're in a little bit more third and long third and, you know, not necessarily manageable, then maybe we're seeing Goddard as just that, that the, the targets ramp up a little bit, the production ramps up a little bit. And then if he gets some, some more touchdown love, then he really can be a superstar. So I always love when I draft out, like I was looking at our magazine league, which we drafted in July, I think was, and.

Might've been June. It might've been June. And so at that point there was no DeAndre Hawkins. So I was like, oh, wow. Let me see what my team looked like. And I was like, oh, I drafted Traylon Brooks, like round six, you know, at that, at that point. So my three receivers in that league are was like, Oh, I drafted Traylon Brooks, like round six, you know, at that, at that point. So my three receivers in that league are Calvin Ridley,

Drake London, and, and Traylon Brooks. I'm like, man, I just, you know, I wish I had a better third,

third receiver. Nico Collins is my fourth, you know, so I'll be okay. But I was like, Oh, you know, I got Dallas Goddard.

I'm pretty okay. You know, like it's just, he's just okay. He's easy. Easy going. Okay. Um,

okay. That covers Dallas Goddard. Let's easy going. Okay. Okay. That covers Dallas Goddard. Let's go to Mike Williams. Don't feel like we talk about him enough. And I want to say last year, he was wide receiver 22 per game, but he played two partial games. Those games were 9% and 37% of the snaps. Remove those, and he would have been more like wide receiver 15 per game,

certainly in the top 20. And then the year before that, he was, I think he was right around that, actually. I think he might have been closer to 12 per game. So I don't know about you. I got a little more optimistic about Williams with the recent revelation, the recent report, that Quentin Johnston is their fourth wide receiver.

I just don't think Quentin Johnston is really doing that much, and it's going to take much away from Mike Williams. So I'm starting to think we might be, I don't know, that maybe the fantasy community is a little too low on him, almost in a Tyler Lockett-y way. Your thoughts? I feel the same about both those guys, to be honest with you. I think Lockett gets undervalued a little bit,

and Williams the same thing. It's hard to rank them significantly higher. Like to me, they're top 30 receivers. So you've heard me say this a lot. You know, once you get to like wide receiver 18 through like almost wide receiver, 35, 36, like there feels like there could just be a big swing of outcomes for all those guys, but you should feel comfortable. Uh, for the most part, you're hoping to get those as your number three receivers. Um, but there is the fear of last year, he was banged up, had a back injury, had an ankle injury that Quentin Johnston, if he gets on a little bit of a role could be a problem.

Keenan Allen's still there going to dominate targets. Austin Eckler's still there. You know, there's still a lot of, you know, let's just say a lot. There's, there's still some buzz for Gerald Everett, you know, so there's a lot of mouths to feed. And as good as Justin Herbert is and Kellen Moore's offense, and if they're still going to throw the ball top three, he should be successful. But how much of it is going to get chopped up and you're just going to have those big swings from Mike Williams? So I think he's just a high-end number three receiver that you'd love to have

starting for you in a three-receiver league and a potential flex in a two-receiver and a flex league. So it's not bad to have him on your roster. And I don't think round five is even too soon to draft him. I think Lockett's a good name to associate him with, and also Mike Evans. Some guys in that wide receiver three range that are going to win you some weeks. The types of guys I generally like to roster.

I may have downgraded him a little bit too much because of the Quentin Johnston. I don't like the fact, though, because I even heard some talk last night on the draft-a-thon about how it's going to be Quentin Johnston or it's going to be Mike Williams. Everybody acts like because they're going to throw the ball downfield more, it's not going to be Keenan Allen. And most of the reports that I've heard out of training camp is that Keenan Allen is just doing all kinds of new things and Justin Herbert can't stop throwing him the ball. So I'm a little concerned that people are favoring the downfield

receivers a little bit. And it's actually going to be Keenan Allen just playing more downfield because he's a superstar and he can play wherever. And then also Williams isn't technically old yet, but he's kind of old. Do you guys like Williams or Lockett better? Lockett slightly. Yeah, I've got Lockett, Godwin, Evans, Williams are all right in the same range. You think JSN at this point, even though he's hurt, is a bigger threat for the season than Johnston is? For sure. Right. Yes, for sure.

Way more. You know what? This is the philosophical thing here, but I'm assuming you guys like Chris Godwin better than Mike Williams? Barely. Yes. Philosophically, you know,

my research and my wide receiver theory is wide receivers on good offenses are the ones that you should target when it's close. I'm not saying, you know, I'm not saying you target Jalen Waddell over Cooper Cupp if Cupp were not injured or something. I'm just saying if it's close, it's a tiebreaker. Based on that, Mike Williams is someone you should take over Chris Godwin

if you think it's close. I don't know if I have the stones to do that in PPR because they're such different players in terms of a profile. You figure a lot more catches for Godwin. But just think about the season that Justin Herbert could have. He could throw for 5,000 yards. That could be great for both Williams and Keenan. You don't think Baker Mayfield could throw the 5,000?

Why didn't we put Tampa Bay on the offensive meter? Because that would be offensive. Would not do that. Aaron Jones. Did we talk enough about Aaron Jones? I was on the fence on that one. I don't think we do. I don't think so, no.

He kind of gets overlooked in the Damian Pierce, J.K. Dobbins, Alexander Madison range. Exactly. Is he ahead of that group? Not for me. He's in the middle. So I would take the potential of Pierce and Dobbins over Jones, but that's probably me just being more fascinated with those two guys than,

than I am with Aaron Jones. I have Jones ahead of that group and I've even downgraded him a little bit because of age, but it's tough. And I mean, I'm a guy who kind of leans on what teams and coordinators have done, especially when the situations remain a little bit similar. It's a quarterback change.

So that's different, but it's just so hard to get away from the way they've used Aaron Jones in the passing game. We don't talk a lot about Jordan Addison. Certainly, I would say not since his injury. That's probably my fault. Where do you guys see yourself on Jordan Addison? He should be ready for week one, right?

I believe so. Wait, I'm sorry. He had what? Did he just have a concussion? Concussion. Okay, all right. So I'm sorry. So nothing serious there Did he just have a concussion? Concussion. Okay. All right. So I'm sorry.

So nothing serious there. Well, I don't mean it in that sense. Nothing long-term there. Yeah. Let's talk about Jordan Addison. Is he behind Lockett, Mike Williams? And your thoughts, guys. He is for me, but not far.

I've got him right in the middle of that group. Like those four wide receivers I said, the one I didn't say who's in that group is Jordan Addison, and he's right in the middle of that group. Like those four wide receivers. I said, the one I didn't say who's in that group is Jordan Addison. And he's right in the middle of it. Um, I think it's going to be really interesting. Like, obviously they value TJ Hawkinson a lot more than I do. And they,

they've got job, Justin Jefferson. So if they throw it 700 times, then that's probably okay to just have a three headed monster of, of really concentrated target share. But KJ Osborne at the beginning of the year, at least is going to be involved as well. I just think Addison's so good at running routes.

If he gets in single coverage with everything they're putting towards Jefferson, he could catch a lot of passes this year. I didn't think that I, I put Daniel Jones on the players we don't talk about enough I honestly feel I don't know how you guys like we have a tweet that I was

going to read a little bit later that said something can we get some Daniel Jones and or Giants chatter never hear about those guys and I wasn't sure if that was sarcastic because I feel like you weren't sure if that was sarcastic I feel like I have intentionally not spoken about them. So as not to be labeled a Homer on this show, there is one giant.

Jamie, I think you've probably heard this, too. I think we both heard it. There is one giant we've not talked enough about. It's Saquon Barkley. That is true. Maybe it's not Daniel Jones, though, like just like the Giants brass. Adam thinks Daniel Jones is more important than Saquon Barkley, but he's not.

You want to talk about Saquon Barkley? We can talk about Saquon Barkley. I think everybody knows enough about Saquon Barkley. Okay, fine. I don't think we talk enough about Kirk Cousins. Does Kirk Cousins have more upside, or is he just going to be kind of a low-end QB1? The thing that was so frustrating about him last year was that they threw the

ball so much and he did not have the type of season that you hope for, you know, touchdowns were certainly a problem for him, but he has been to the previous three years at 22 points or more, uh, never above 25 though. So I think you just kind of know what you're getting, you know?

So for me, uh, and obviously ADP does not reflect this because Kirk Cousins still being drafted as a top 12 guy. But for me, um, ADP does not reflect this because Kirk Cousins is still being drafted as a top 12 guy. But for me, I put him in the Dak, Geno, Daniel Jones category. And really, Daniel Jones doesn't belong there because he doesn't do what those other guys do, or at least projects to do what those other guys do, which is going to be throw the ball a little bit more on some more prolific passing attacks.

But look, Cousins is the ultimate fallback guy for me. So draft Richardson, look for Cousins. Draft Tua, look for Cousins. I did that in our salary cap league. Those are my two quarterbacks, Tua and Cousins, and I'm thrilled about that. So if you don't love your starter and Cousins is still on the board,

pair them up and you should be in a good spot. I think when you're talking about their upside as far as how high they could finish in fantasy, it's the same thing for both Cousins and Geno Smith. Is this going to be like last year or the two years before? Because if there's not that many quarterbacks scoring more than 22 fantasy points per game, then I think Cousins or Geno could

approach a top five season. But I don't think they could actually get into the 25 range. I could see Cousins having a 700 attempt, 4,800 yard, 35 pass touchdown season.

But it's probably just going to depend on, does Herbert bounce back? Does Lamar bounce back? How many of these guys get hurt? I think it's interesting the huge gap between Lawrence and Cousins and Geno because there's an argument to be made that those guys could put up pretty similar stats.

It's just that Lawrence is younger, and so you hope he makes that monster leap. All right, let's see if we can get a does Adam talk too much about Daniel Jones poll going here and see what the results are. It should be we, not Adam, we.

Do we talk too much about Daniel Jones? I appreciate it, because it's probably more Heath. Heath talks more about Daniel Jones than I do. Let's take a break here. We got your X's when we come back. Anybody call it X or are we still saying Twitter? I still say Twitter. Yeah, every time you say X, I just kind of think you're a little bit more of a boomer. I hate it.

I say it sarcastically. It's ridiculous. All right, here are your tweets from Henry. Common phrase is you can't win your league in the first round, but you can lose your league in the first round. Who are the first round picks based on ADP that you think have the highest probability of losing people their leagues based on underperformance? Based on underperformance?

Yeah. I mean, it's hard to say because I don't expect them to underperform, but, I mean, without's hard to say because I don't expect them to underperform, but I mean, without an injury. So, you know, underperform, like you, you can, we can nitpick a lot of these situations, you know, you brought up one already, you know, does McCaffrey lose enough work that, oh my God, he's the eighth running back as opposed to the first.

And he's not a top-12 player. Eckler's touchdowns and receptions come down because of just the more explosive offense. It's a hard question. I'm trying to think of non-injury-related situations. Well, there's Chubb and Brown. It's not a player performance. I think the only way without an injury is because we were wrong about their projected usage. None of these guys that we're taking in round one we think could just be bad. Is it possible Pollard doesnard is the one you could see from hasn't done it before. C.D. Lamb, more crowded receiving floor. You know, his numbers dip a little bit. You know, now there's also the receivers that have quarterback injuries potential, you know, so they're not hurt. But God forbid one of the star quarterbacks go down and, you know, what happens to Kelsey? What happens to Tyreek Hill? What happens to Stefan Diggs?

All those guys that are going in round one. Adam, we had our Giants talk. Can we have our Chiefs talk for just a second? Because I've seen this comment or tweet multiple times. And as people say, the problem with Sky Moore is that the highest a Chiefs receiver has finished other than Tyreek was wide receiver 33. That's in this Patrick Mahomes era.

Well, every year but one, Tyreek and Travis receiver 33. That's in this Patrick Mahomes era. Well, every year but one, Tyreek and Travis Kelsey were both there. And you've pointed this out. Juju was a must-start receiver. He had emerged into that before his concussion. By the way, I think the answer to this question is Nick Chubb, because in full PPR, Nick Chubb is a first-round pick in CBS ADP.

He's at 12-13 in Fantasy Pros ADP in full PPR he's 13th and he's at the 11th highest ADP so it's just possible that he's he's just never been that

he's never been worth that now he could be better than ever before it's a good call I don't think Chubb has ever finished higher than RB8 per game in full PPR Evan Hicks a league member hasn't paid and won't be able to before the draft but they gave a specific date that they can pay you do you let them still draft yes yeah i mean it's obviously a friendship discussion right

like you're not probably doing that for strangers when you hasn't paid, you don't mean for last year. Ooh, that might be, that's a problem. Because in our league, it's like hasn't paid yet is kind of the default. I'm going to be more strict this year. Yeah, I know you guys,

but big burger, you're not draft. You're not setting your lineup week one. If you haven't paid. And already more than half the league has paid. It's a good thing you owe me a lot of money. I owe you nothing. This is from Vince. I guess all the leagues I run are free for you. Love the charity work.

Speaking of charity work, Vince, Jamie, let's see the side of your head. Oh, yeah. Jamie got the three lines shaved at the side of his head. That is fantastic. It should look pretty good. It looks really good. Anyway, Vince says,

can you dig into the rookie tight ends and why people seem to love them more than usual this year? Well, I think first off, their profile is coming into the league. We're getting to a point where colleges are using these guys not just as combo tight ends.

They're being used more as pass catchers and, you know, big slot receivers. And so Kincaid and Laporta, for example, and even Musgrave, they landed in such great spots, you know, where there's target opportunities and immediate playing time. They don't have to worry about necessarily being blockers, which is why these guys don't typically get on the field. So I think for those three in particular, and we'll see if mayor falls in line too. Um, but you know, Kincaid, whenever you see a team be aggressive in the draft and the bills traded up to spots, we'll get them, you know, that, that speaks to, okay, we're going to use him right away. And by all accounts, he's handled everything that they thrown at him. Um, I think he's worth the risk because he's attached to Josh Allen,

and they didn't really make any significant moves this offseason in their receiving core. And then for Laporta, I mean, look at that receiving core behind Amaro St. Brown. So both those guys, to me, have significant upside, and they're worth taking a chance on as your number one tenant. I mean, honestly, it's desperation. Like, have you seen the tight end position? We had like eight guys who scored more than nine fantasy points per game last year.

We're just dying for someone to matter. And it's more fun to take a shot on those guys who haven't failed us over and over than it is on Tyler Higbee and Dalton Schultz and others. Okay, here's a good question. Heath, I don't know if you're going to write this story this year, but from Reed, how to take advantage of different platforms' draft rankings? Who does Yahoo, ESPN, Sleeper have listed too high or too low? I believe that Chris Towers is writing that story.

He wrote it. He wrote it. It's already out there. And so go search Chris Towers CBS. That's the great thing. If we ever say that we wrote something and you can't find it, just search our name and CBS and you'll find our writer page and you'll see everything we've written. Go search that. Chris has it. I'm looking at ESPN.

To this point, the people listening to our show are being brainwashed about the players that we like. Then they go play on other sites and they're like, oh my god, I can i found this guy like i did a yahoo draft and and roshan johnson was like buried and you know he's one of my favorite draft targets and so i was like i gotta keep scrolling scrolling scrolling okay there he is um you're gonna find that on our site too you know they're gonna be people that you listen to and you play on cbs and you know you're listening

to you know a yahoo show or an espn show orPN show or you know NFL NFL network show and they pipe up the guys that they like and you know they're buried on our site you know we were getting crushed a little bit initially for the way our average job position looked by a couple of other sites and understandably so you know it just hadn't registered enough drafts yet and you know we had put it out there I think a little too soon for my my liking uh published it a little too soon so um any anytime you have players that you like and you play on other platforms then you know take advantage of it that's the that's the beauty of of this industry is that there are a lot of different opinions i'm gonna be i hope not but wrong on on players heave same thing you know but we're gonna be right on a lot of guys as well and you know if you get that type of advantage you know the the thing about the dobbins email we got

you know if if if you're playing on a on a platform that everybody is railing against them well their projections and their rankings are probably going to push them down well if you feel like i feel you get them even a better discount yes if you he was one of the guys i'm looking at just two players on espPN that are much lower in their ADP than where they are in CBS ADP. Drake London is 84th. J.K. Dobbins is 87th in ADP. All right, guys, let's go rapid fire here.

Rapid fire because I do want to give a few Superflex tips. We did a Superflex draft today. This one is from Jeff. Does Joe Mixon have a path to being a top five running back this season? Yes. Yes. Yes. From one fishy scientist, which Chiefs wide receiver will have the most fantasy value?

Skymore. Skymore? From Jeremy, best ball strategies. Reach for quarterbacks to make a stack. Avoid certain players. Best ball strategies. Make a stack if it comes naturally. Yeah, I wonder if this is the year

that stacking's gone so mainstream that the team that wins, it's going to be a team that didn't build the stack. From William, any worry on guys like Olave and Devontae Smith? Olave's giving me some Cortland Sutton vibes. Well, Cortland Sutton's second year was his best ever, so hopefully that's the case.

Look. Concerns about those two guys? Slight. Slight just because it's Derek Carr and Michael Thomas may stay healthy all season and Jawan Johnson may do some things and Alvin Kamara may do some things. So there's a lot of mouths to feed there.

When we thought initially it was just going to be him and maybe some parts with Kamara suspended for a big season, but he looked awesome last year, and hopefully that's the type of player that he's going to be. I have more concerns about Olave than I do Devontae Smith. I love Devontae at the 2-3 turn. I don't have a lot of concerns about Olave, but more than I do about Devontae.

From Bonehead, let's try to do this as rapid fire as possible. He wants a deep dive on Traylon Burks now that he's healthy. So where would you guys take Traylon Burks? Round 10-ish, but still with a lot of optimism.

Yeah, I think I might have him at round 8. There's a lot of outs to be right on Traylon Burks like DeAndre Hopkins could not quite still be his self Tennessee could throw more and it could be like an AJ Brown Corey Davis season or DeAndre Hopkins at 31 years old could get hurt so um round eight eight nine okay and David wants to know what our in-season coverage on this podcast is like. Good question. Tuesday is Waver Wire. Wednesday is Trade Talk and other buyer sell, all that kind of stuff.

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So we have eight episodes per week, actually, and you're going to really enjoy it. And FFT Dynasty. Right, and FFT Dynasty. Is that going to be a Tuesday thing every week? Tuesday thing, yep. Okay, great. All right, and then finally, ultimate warriors.

One wants, uh, some, some IDP talk, some linebackers. I said, uh, when we did our IDP draft,

two sleepers for me are David long for the dolphins and the Kobe Dean for the Eagles. I've seen them pretty low on, uh, some linebacker rankings lists, but Dean steps in, uh, for,

uh, for Edwards, who was one of the best linebackers in IDP last year, and David Long is a guy that the Dolphins got him pretty cheap because he's always hurt, but a lot of analysts absolutely love that acquisition for the Dolphins. He came over from Tennessee, I believe. Anything else?

Any IDPs that you guys like? I know Jack Campbell went relatively late in our draft, and he's obviously going to play a big role for the Lions. Oh, right. Aziz Alshayer. I'm sorry. Aziz Alshayer. Absolute freaking stud with the 49ers.

I think he's with Tennessee now. So I just want to see him get on the field. Heath? I'll just give the same piece of advice I always do. Go look for those edge rushers who play end slash linebacker, who get the defensive line. And it's different on every side, but theer who get the defensive line. And it's different on every side, but the guys who get the defensive line tag

but are kind of edge linebackers, those are the guys you want to target. We talked Superflex last week. We'll give you a little bit of an update here. What were some of your major takeaways from the Superflex? 12-team Superflex. So not everybody's guaranteed to get three quarterbacks.

12-team Superflex, 12-team Superflex. So not everybody's guaranteed to get three quarterbacks. 12-team Superflex. Other than me taking B. John Robinson 24th overall, which was ridiculous. Daniel Jones and Dak Prescott should not go ahead of B. John Robinson in Superflex, even at six point. What were some of the things that really stood out to you in today's draft? I had the 12th pick.

I was so intent on not taking quarterback in the first round and then you guys let trevor lawrence fall to me at 12 so that was okay and then i was like you know what i'm just gonna lean into it and i took two at 13 and so i was thrilled to get three quarterbacks in this league time out time out you took two over richardson right and i made that switch in my rankings as well, yes. Okay, okay. I think that one, though, is like, I think that one's understandable if you like Richardson better in a one-quarterback league

and Tua better in super flex. There might be a little more risk for Richardson. Right. Yes. But I was thrilled to get three quarterbacks. Jordan loves my third. And the way that this draft, he, I think, said it in the chat

that this is the most we've seen these quarterbacks get pushed up. And so I felt pretty comfortable taking three early. I sacrificed a little bit at third receiver and maybe tight end, but I feel like I could cobble that together. Finding quarterbacks is going to be tough. Yeah, it was. And there are still maybe a couple of potential starting quarterbacks this year who I'm not sure got drafted, but we drafted a lot. We did draft a lot. In past years, we've had a couple of those Desmond Ritter, Mac Jones, Jimmy Garoppolo types that fall to the double digit rounds. And those guys were mostly gone by round seven this year. I think, and that kind of goes against the advice I've given,

I think I gave a week ago, is that eventually after the top 13, 14, 15, however many quarterbacks the league actually likes, there will be a gap and people will stop taking quarterbacks. That gap didn't happen. Like three picks after I took Geno Smith, Kenny Pickett was gone. People just kept hammering quarterbacks. And so I kind of had to adjust on the fly because I had started off with Justin Jefferson and Stefan digs. Um, thinking I took Gino in round three, I thought everything was

great. And then people just kept hammering quarterbacks. Um, and so I had to, had to kind of adjust on the fly there, but if that that happens it makes it more difficult to wait on quarterback and regardless well if you think drafting three quarterbacks is good why don't you do what i do draft four quarterbacks i drafted four quarterbacks and i thought i got one of the sneakiest potential starters you were talking trash about anthony richardson again and saying that gardner meant you'd be starting week five or something. And I was so happy to take Sam Darnold because, and this might be wild, but I think it's more likely that Brock Purdy gets benched because of performance than it is Anthony Richardson. I just counted. There was 37 quarterbacks drafted. Um, you mentioned Darnold, Mike White was drafted. Malik Willis was drafted.

Was Dobbs? Dobbs was drafted. Clayton Toon was drafted. I think there was another backup. But this is a strategy that I like. I didn't love my team. I wasn't getting, after my first three picks, which were Mahomes, I had 1.1.

Mahomes, Bijan, Lamb. I was thrilled. Oh, Kyle Trask. I'm sorry. It was another one. After that, I didn't really feel like I got great value with a lot of picks. So I took four quarterbacks, and they are Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Purdy, and Baker Mayfield, who was the last. So you were part of the problem. No, because I took Mayfield super late.

He was the 32nd quarterback taken. Mayfield and Mac Jones sat on the board for a long time. Yeah. Mac Jones had one pick before me. They were 31 and 32. I think those were the last starting quarterbacks. But taking four quarterbacks is great because the second there's a quarterback injury,

you are going to get so much more value in trade for that quarterback compared to the running back, wide receivers, tight ends that were on the board when you took that quarterback. I mean, you should never cheer for injury, but you, it's going to be a horse race to see if that first quarterback injury happens before Baker Mayfield loses his job, dude. He's, he's not going to, I don't think he's going to lose his job. I got their offensive line is so bad. And Kyle Trask is a statue. He will get pummeled.

Mayfield has some mobility, and he's probably better than Kyle Trask. But even a quarterback, even a marginal quarterback like Mayfield, a bad fantasy quarterback like Mayfield is going to have some value in a super flex league where somebody's got quarterback injuries or bye weeks even. All right, that's it for tonight's show. And did we talk too much? Do we talk too much about Daniel Jones?

162 votes. No, 41%. Yes, 32%. Just the right amount, 27%. I feel vindicated. No C results? No C results. And Schaefer says that Baker Mayfield can't move. I don't agree with that.

I think he can move better than Trask. I think he can move better than you can throw. Well, I have Purdy at Mayfield, so I don't think he'd like my team very much. We'll talk to you with the mailbag. Mailbag coming up on Friday, airing on Saturday on Fantasy Football.