Fantasy Football Today - Kupp vs. Chase vs. Jefferson; Dynasty TEs; Mailbag (05/19 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: May 19, 2022Cooper Kupp, Ja'Marr Chase and Justin Jefferson could all be first round picks this season. Who has the most upside? Who has the highest floor? Most downside? We tell you how we see this WR debate (4:...00) and how we have it ranked ... News and notes (19:40) on Chris Godwin, the Bears run game, Irv Smith and more ... Checking out Heath's updated dynasty tight end rankings (26:50)! How close are Mark Andrews and Kyle Pitts? How much upside does Cole Kmet have? What about the rookies? ... Your Apple Podcast questions (34:30) and emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to a rankings debate.
Cup versus Jefferson versus Chase.
I know Cup's going to be number one for most people, but let's talk it out.
Let's also talk about the dynasty tight ends.
And are George Kittle and Darren Waller getting a little bit old?
Should we be concerned about that?
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It is Thursday.
We are ready to talk some fantasy football.
I'm Adam Azer with Jamie Eisenberg and Heath Cummings.
Heath, give us your quick report of going to your first Celtics game.
I know it was a disappointing outcome. It was a very strange third quarter. But how was it? How was your first Celtics game. I know it was a disappointing outcome. It was a very strange third quarter,
but how was it? How was your first Celtics game ever on Tuesday?
It was a lot of fun. The Heat fans were almost universally really kind, and we had good fun
razzing each other. There was a chant on the way out that was a little obscene, but it was fine.
The worst fan there was another Celtics fan
that was sitting right next to us.
Hopefully he didn't know who I am
because that would be mean now.
But no, it was very good.
The thing I was shocked by,
because I thought I got a pretty good deal on tickets.
There's a local ticket service that I use and Dave uses,
and they sent me an email the day before or two days
before you can get in the door for 120 bucks for a Eastern conference, final playoff game.
I thought that was awesome. And like after the Celtics won, the tickets went up to almost 200
right before the game, you could walk up to the gate and cause you can buy all tickets like
at the stadium. Cause all the ticket master resale stuff. You could buy tickets for $80
to get into an NBA playoff game right before the game.
I was surprised by that.
Yeah, man.
I was looking at ticket prices.
Just go on SeatGeek.
They used to sponsor us.
This isn't a sponsorship anymore.
But it's very cheap.
Oh, $157 tonight.
$237 for Game 3 in Boston.
Anyway, he's going to be a South Florida sports fan.
Much cheaper seats than a Boston sports fan.
Are you going to the Panthers?
Are you going to fly down?
I would love to go to that super spreader,
but no, I will not be able to.
Anyway, yeah, big Panthers game tonight.
Big Heat game tonight.
Big night for South Florida.
They're playing tonight, right?
The Heat game 2? Yeah. So tonight. Big night for South Florida. They're playing tonight, right? The Heat game two?
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's talk about our wide receivers.
But before we do that, we got a great email from Cooper.
Cooper every once in a while.
Cooper James or Cooper Dog as I used to call him.
Amari Cooper, Cooper Cub.
His first name is Cooper.
He's a loyal listener.
And Cooper wrote an amazing email about Rashad Penny.
This guy, there should be a song about Cooper stats
because Cooper comes up with the best statistic.
He says, we're too low on Rashad Penny.
And every time, he pointed out that Rashad Penny
has had seven games in his career with 12 or more carries.
And in six of those seven games,
he's rushed for 108 or more yards.
In those seven games, he's averaged 7.7 yards per carry,
and he's been on pace for 2,300 rushing yards and 22 touchdowns.
Based on seven games, every time he's had 12 or more carries,
he has come through with a really big game.
So we are going to talk about Rashad Penny later,
but a little hat tip to Cooper for having the best stat of the show,
and that's in our mailbag.
He's played seven games in his career.
With 12 or more carries.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Basically, but 12 or more carries.
And he's come through every time.
He's the Will Fuller of running backs.
Maybe.
I wouldn't disrespect Will Fuller like that.
Open your eyes. You read the like that. Open your eyes.
You read the Cooper email.
Open your eyes to the greatness of Rashad Penny.
He's great.
He's great.
All right, Cooper, Cup, Jamar, Chase, Justin Jefferson
will probably be the first three wide receivers selected in your leagues.
And Cup will likely be first.
Yeah, not in our league.
Last time we did a draft, it was Devontae Adams second,
but that was weird.
Okay, how do you rank them?
Let's start with that.
We're going to have a little discussion here,
not necessarily a debate, but a little discussion.
How do you rank them, Heath?
I've got a Cup and then Jefferson.
I actually do have Adams just ahead of Jamar Chase.
Oh, boom.
There's been some steam lately behind Justin Jefferson
as the number one wide receiver, and I would really like to get behind that.
I have those two very close.
And then a little gap before anybody else.
Okay.
Jamie, how do you rank it?
I have a Cup, Jefferson, Chase,
but I also will have to think about Cup versus Jefferson
if Beckham is back and ready to go
come week one in Los Angeles.
Okay.
Seems unlikely.
Right?
Back and ready to go. Week one?
It does seem unlikely.
Okay. Who has the most upside?
Cup, Chase, or Jefferson?
It's hard not to say Cup,
but Jefferson feels like he has this big season coming.
Oh, definitely I feel like Jefferson and Chase
are the answers that I want to make of having the most upside.
I mean, Cup's a 29-year-old wide receiver.
He's not near as exciting as either one of those,
but he just scored 25 fantasy points
a game. I don't
know how anybody could have more upside than that.
The hope
would be is that Kevin O'Connell tries to
replicate Cooper Cup and Justin Jefferson.
He's always open.
And if that's the case,
Justin Jefferson could be just a
ridiculous monster.
Who's got the most downside?
Chase.
Yeah, I guess you'd have to say Chase.
Would you?
What would you say?
Cup?
Yeah, just because.
I assume we're talking non-injury downside.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
I guess I'd say Cup just because, you know,
look at the rest of his career.
It's great. Oh, I am so glad you said, you know, look at the rest of his career. It's great.
Oh, I am so glad you said that.
It's really good.
It's really good.
But if he goes back to the rest of his career,
you know, he might be like wide receiver eight.
Well, is Jared Goff coming with him?
But don't sell Jared Goff short because, you know,
they actually had a very good passing offense
in three of the last four years.
Looking forward to your teams with Jared Goff
and Rashad Penny this season.
No, he's obviously not Stafford.
I think we need to be careful
when talking about
the rest of Cooper Cupp's career
because he had some injuries.
He had the weird touchdown season,
but 2018, he played six full games
and averaged 20.6 PPR fantasy points
per game.
2019, he played 15 full games and averaged 17 PPR fantasy points per game. 2019, he played 15 full games
and averaged 17 PPR fantasy points per game.
He did have the 2020 season
where he only scored three touchdowns
and only scored 13.8.
But basically, three of the last four years,
he's been a top five wide receiver
on a per game basis
if you want to count the games he plays
when he's healthy.
I don't know about top five.
I think two of the last three years he has.
I think four years ago, I have him at PPR per game,
he was 15th in half PPR.
18?
Yeah.
Okay, well, I think you're counting the game where he played less.
Yes.
He had a game where he played 38% of the snaps.
Wow, you didn't answer that because it worked in your favor.
No, no, I guess I could do the math on that.
But I doubt he was top five because he was 15th.
When the argument is in my favor, I'm not Azers that it.
I'm not anti-Cooper Cup at all.
I just think that if he goes back to what he was, you're right, Heath.
I mean, very good.
But I think it's lower than Chase Jefferson.
But how is he going back to what he was when his quarterback is better?
Just because the target, just target share.
I don't know.
I mean, is he going to have a 31% target share again?
What if it's 24%?
Well, I mean, you know, we're excited to whatever degree about Allen Robinson resurrecting himself in Los Angeles.
And maybe the expectation of Odell Beckham by the middle of the season being what he was at least in that campaign last year.
But I mean,
I would be shocked if his target share gets significantly less knowing what
this receiving court looks like right now.
Yeah.
Okay.
The other argument would be for most downside would be Jefferson because
look at his splits with and without Adam Thielen last year.
The last six games of the year, Adam Thielen barely played.
He missed four games.
And in the other two games, he played something like 29 combined snaps.
So are the games where he played 29% of the snaps, are those with Adam Thielen or without Adam Thielen?
No, no, no.
Adam Thielen played 29 combined snaps
in the last six games of the season.
Okay.
In those six games,
Jefferson averaged 11.5 targets per game.
He averaged 8.9 targets per game before that.
So it really was...
I don't know if you remember,
but Jefferson got off to a somewhat slow start.
And then in the last eight, nine games, really, I don't know if you remember, but Jefferson got off to a somewhat slow start. And then in the last eight, nine games, really,
it started a little bit before Thielen's injury.
He just went crazy as they were
starting the ball. Well, I mean, there was some, you know,
grumblings about not getting him the ball enough.
And that changed. I think
the fact that, you
know, you have this
budding superstar, if he's
not a superstar already.
By the way, my 10-year-old will not stop doing the gritty everywhere he goes.
And his 7-year-old brother's screaming at him, stop being Justin Jefferson.
I think you just have to hope that this is the third year, quote, quote unquote, breakout, which he's not going
to do statistically, but just he gets better as a player and as a receiver.
And, you know, I do a lot of research on that year, and it's usually a lot of factors.
And in his case, it's more of an offensive mindset for this team.
And I think if that happens, you know, Kevin O'Connell
bringing out the best
of these guys,
Justin Jefferson
could easily be
the number one receiver
and he may be
a record breaker this season.
Well, yeah,
he just had 1,600 yards
and 10 touchdowns.
You think he does
better than that?
Probably the touchdowns
would be what would boost him.
10's good.
It's not amazing.
But that's the thing.
Like, Thielen takes
those touchdowns, right? Thielen's kind of a touchdown thief. Irv Smith is back. He's not amazing. But that's the thing. Phelan takes those touchdowns.
Phelan's kind of a touchdown thief.
Irv Smith is back.
He's hopefully an upgrade at the tight end position.
KJ Osborne gets a bigger role.
They love him there.
You have the reports,
which anybody wants to buy into that, go ahead,
but the reports of Dalvin Cook
lining up a wide receiver,
his involvement in the passing game, there's a lot of things that can
detract from you know justin jefferson's upside for sure but i don't know i mean it just it's
hard to it's hard not to look at what the upside is also i mean i i think clearly we're nitpicking
you know he has marches fourth you know as the low guy um you know and any downside that we're
going to say is going to be you know trying to find flaws as
opposed to obvious ones right yeah exactly we love all these guys uh who's got the highest floor
safest cup cup okay what do you make of the fact that cup just had this season that
was kind of out of nowhere.
But I guess it was really just targets, right?
I mean, if you look at his numbers,
his catch rate, his yards per target,
his yards per target was up, his yards per catch.
The big difference is just the targets, right, Heath?
I mean, I don't really know.
It's not like he had a season where he never performed
quite like this on a per-target basis,
but he just got so many.
I think if we can sometimes look at he was so good
that, well, he can't be that good again.
Well, he could lose 10% and still be better than everywhere else.
So it was a couple of things.
One, he had a season where he stayed healthy all year long.
Two, he had a season where he got more targets than he ever had,
and he was slightly more efficient at the same time.
But I think the 16 touchdowns on 191 targets,
far less of an outlier for Cooper Cupp's career
than the three on 124 targets the year before.
His 10.2 yards per target was not a career high.
He averaged 10.3 in 2018.
But it was a yard better than his career average.
His yards per catch,
not as good as his rookie year
or his second year,
slightly better than his career average.
I think it was mostly
just the huge volume
and a little bit of an efficiency spike.
Man, his postseason was ridiculous.
His postseason numbers
were even better than his regular season numbers.
He was on pace for 2,031 yards and 26 touchdowns based on his four playoff games.
Amazing.
I think the more interesting thing is how close...
It's easy.
We can all see how Justin Jefferson could be a Cooper Cup or almost Cooper Cup.
I don't know about Chase.
Why?
He was a much different player than these two last year.
I think he was pretty similar to Jefferson, no?
I mean, they're both like kind of higher ADOT,
you know, big yards per catch,
not necessarily as many catches.
That's the thing.
I mean, are either Jefferson or Chase
going to catch enough passes
to be wide receiver one in full
PPR? I think it's a little bit like Tyreek
Hill, where he was better in non
and half and had trouble in full
PPR.
Jefferson got 108 passes
last year. Yeah, in 17 games.
That's
not typically going to be enough
to be wide receiver one based on
Michael Thomas
Cooper Cup Devante Adams. You know
you look at the last three number one
wide receivers. They were a lot better
than that, especially Thomas and Cup
but if Jefferson stays healthy 120 catches
is certainly realistic.
Yeah, go ahead
Eve. He was exactly the same.
No, he was he was more but I
he was 27 more catches than Jamar Chase?
Yeah, but Chase had basically the same amount of catches
as Jefferson did in Jefferson's rookie season.
You could see Chase taking a big step with catches.
If T. Higgins is not a top 15 wide receiver, yeah.
Okay, well, but then at the same time, I mean mean adam thielen was a top 15 wide receiver i
think jiggins is a bigger threat to chase than thielen is to jefferson well there's also i mean
you know look as much as kj osborne could take a step forward tyler boyd is still a pretty
legitimate number three receiver and arguably might be the best number three receiver in the
league um you know the the there's a change in tight end, you know,
so there could be a shift in how maybe some of those touchdowns,
those CJ Uzama fluky games, you know, where he had multiple touchdowns,
you know, maybe one or two of those goes to Jamar Chase.
It's also just the natural progression of going from year one to year two.
You know, Zach Taylor talked about this and, you know,
I don't think we make enough of uh unless the emphasis
on it but you know at least bringing it up that these guys in their rookie seasons what they have
to deal with you know from end of college until they actually get to training camp you know versus
year one to year two you know when they go through a whole off season of of actual work and if the
guys who are the legitimate you know workhors, which I think Jamar Chase probably qualifies.
He's probably been throwing with Joe Burrow in some capacity. He's probably been, you know,
doing the right type of workout program and, you know, not necessarily worrying about his,
his pro day or, you know, I don't know, I don't remember if he ran at the combine, but, you know,
those type of training processes that go through, that these guys go through, finding a home,
you know, move to a new city, you know. All those things are not a problem for him anymore.
So this is a big, big year for him.
And I think we saw it as the season unfolded.
You mentioned, Adam, a lot about how Joe Burrow,
when they decided to take the reins off of him,
we saw a different Jamar Chase too in that stretch
where he wasn't just a deep threat making big plays.
His catches went up.
His routes changed a little bit.
And that's going to hopefully develop know, hopefully develop as well.
So there's a lot to like about where Jamar Chase is headed,
and he could easily be the best of this trio for sure.
Yeah.
I think what I was trying to say, Adam,
like coming at it from a projection standpoint,
Jefferson has been about as efficient as you would ever project
any wide receiver no matter how good they are to be.
6% touchdown rate, 10 yards per target.
That's like Tyreek Hill territory.
And maybe he'll be slightly better than that.
But Chase was so much more efficient last year than even that.
He had three more touchdowns on almost 30 fewer catches
and averaged three yards per catch better.
I think it's much more likely that Justin Jefferson matches
what he did efficiency-wise
than Chase did last year.
He also took a year off of football.
You know, so we don't know
where the ceiling is for this kid.
Yeah.
Now that he's...
And he only had 128 targets,
so you've got to figure
he's going to get more than that.
I will say efficiency-wise,
I'm relatively confident
his rest of career ceiling
is lower than what he did last year.
He had six touchdowns of 42 or more yards, Jamar Chase.
That's amazing.
That's awesome.
Yeah, it's amazing.
I don't know if you can count on that.
He's going to need more targets.
But he's obviously a big playmaker.
Do you think that Jamar Chase is basically the next Tyreek Hill?
Big plays, not a ton of catches, but a ton of yards and touchdowns.
I would think he ends up catching more passes than Tyreek Hill.
Yeah, I think he's better than Tyreek Hill.
Okay.
All right.
Any final thoughts?
All first-rounders?
I think it's a tougher question when you look at these guys.
I don't know where you have Cup ranked, Keith, comparatively.
Obviously, the two younger guys are ahead,
but we're doing a startup draft today.
A lot of people still look at Cup in a startup dynasty league
as a top three receiver.
I don't know if he still qualifies based on being 29.
I've got him fourth, but just because there are so many guys
who are in the top 10 who who've kind of not had a great off season or fall on a little bit or,
or other things.
But like I've had chase ahead of Jefferson and dynasty for most of the
past six months.
And this most recent update is when I factor in this year's projections a
little bit more.
And now Jefferson's ahead just because he's projected for so many more points than Chase.
All right.
Thank you, guys.
We've got four episodes next week on Monday.
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On Tuesday, who's going to regress to the mean?
Looking at 2021 floors and ceilings
and what it means for 2022.
Wednesday, we have an advanced stats 101 and a best ball explain for 2022. Wednesday, we have an Advanced Stats 101 and a Best Ball Explainer,
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Now it's time for our news and notes.
Tampa Bay head coach Todd Bowles
would not put a timetable on Chris Godwin,
and he said Godwin is not where he needs to be.
He said he's getting better.
All right, so if you're drafting right now,
where are you drafting Chris Godwin, Jamie?
Round four.
Heath?
Yeah, three, four turn.
I mean, we're a long ways from him having to be where he needs to be.
Right.
The Bears are transitioning to a run-heavy team with the outside zone scheme.
That's according to Adam Johns of The Athletic.
David Montgomery, in his last seven games,
he had 17 or more carries in six of them.
He had 20 to 22 carries in each of his last three games.
You think you can get even more than that, Heath?
Your reaction to this report from Adam Johns of The Athletic?
I believe they're going to be a run-heavy team.
I was on a podcast last night,
and during the show,
we discovered... We were talking about whether Luke Getzey had
ever called offensive plays before. And he was the offensive coordinator at Mississippi State in
2018. And then a couple of times at smaller colleges. That year at Mississippi State,
the quarterback led the team by a long margin in rush attempts, ran for 1,100 yards and 13
touchdowns. So they could be a run
heavy team, and Khalil Herbert and
Justin Fields just get a lot more rush attempts
than they did in the past. I think Montgomery
is probably a similar rush volume bluster.
Jamie, let's take a look at
some reports coming out of Vikings camp.
Herb Smith was running at almost
full speed, according to Sam Ekstrom,
and Chad Graff of The Athletic
noted that Dalvin Cook's been lined up
out wide a decent amount
in bunch formation with wide receivers,
I guess, in the OTAs.
So, reaction to the Vikings news?
Encouraging for Irv Smith.
I think he's going to be one of those tight ends
that if you're inclined to take two, he should be on your list.
And by the time we get to,
hopefully, week two or week three,
he's a waiver wire priority because he's got, you know, tremendous upside as as the guy that I thought was a breakout candidate last year before his knee injury.
I wouldn't read too much in the Dalvin Cook news.
I'm sure they're just experimenting with different stuff.
I'd be very surprised if he spends a lot of time lining up the wide receiver.
The NFL has interviewed Deshaun Watson, and we could get a suspension announcement one way or the other fairly soon,
so be on the lookout for a bonus podcast.
The Colts signed Philip Lindsay.
Who's the handcuff to Jonathan Taylor?
I mean, Lindsay probably,
just based on how they,
I wouldn't anticipate using him and Naheem Hines,
but it would certainly be more of a committee.
But he's now the new Marlon Mack, so. There's been a lot of talk, speaking of Naheem Hines, about how they want be more of a committee. But he's now the new Marlon Mack.
There's been a lot of talk, speaking of Naeem Hines,
about how they want to use him more this year.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I spoke to their running backs coach and their office coordinator,
and they have not shied away from that.
And the Eagles signed James Bradbury to a one-year deal.
Cornerback James Bradbury, former Giant, Panther before that,
and the deal could be worth up to $10 million.
Are the Eagles the best team in the
division?
That's what I said last year, eventually.
They look like it on paper.
It's not going to be Dallas because
no team ever repeats its champion
in the NFC East.
There's really no other option.
It's the Eagles.
Yeah, they do look good.
And this is a really nice addition to their secondary.
Let's talk about Dynasty tight ends.
A couple other things you missed.
Terrible news about Tariq Cohen.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Suffering the Achilles tear or ruptured Achilles working out
after coming back or trying to come back from the ACL tear.
So just terrible news.
Hopefully he's able to continue his career, but, but clearly, you know,
feel bad for a guy that has gone through a lot.
And then Mike McDaniel indicated for the dolphins backfield that they are not
going to rush Raheem Mostert back.
So the signing of Sony Michelle, I think right now I haven't adjusted my rank.
He's I don't know what you're going to do Heath,
but I think if I'm drafting the dolphins running backs right now,
it's Edmonds one, Michelle two, and
Mostert three, whereas Mostert's kind of been the
number two de facto guy.
If he's still not ready and
they're going to take their time,
I think Michelle and Mostert, even though Mostert's got an edge
knowing the system and the coach,
Sonny Mischel showed he
could still play last year and probably has
the opportunity to get an early edge
on Mostert and OTAAs and all their offseason work.
OK, we're going to talk about dynasty tight ends in just a little bit.
We'll take a quick break when we come back.
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Go to cbssports.com slash fantasy slash football,
and there's a Dynasty Central link.
We're actually doing a startup mock draft,
a one quarterback startup mock draft today.
We did a super flex one last week. Hope you have different people drafting this week. Heath was a lot of different people drafting this week, a little clunky last week. I don't know what that
was all about. It was one of our least efficient drafts. I think, um, generally speaking, I don't
know if Jamie feels this is true or or not the clunkiness almost always
comes from cbs sports employees absolutely they were very rarely does the clunkiness come from
any of our guests the guest drafters after like the first round or two because especially like
this time of year now our our stuff is all loaded into our draft room so it's much easier but
whenever we have guests that are coming into our draft room before this you know our projections and whatnot are loaded in there
our rankings are loaded in there to find players is a challenge so um until they figure it out
then then they are usually fine but yes it's definitely our our co-workers are the are the
the uh the common problem uh and in, like Dan wasn't here last week,
so we didn't have him in the chat making fun of Adam or,
uh,
or picking quickly.
I have a really good for when we draft,
Dave likes to update his rankings as he's making his decisions.
And it was a very,
very painful process.
Well,
just like,
I'll tell on Dave,
Dave just missed the first two rounds of the draft last week.
So he was the majority of the clunkiness.
But, you know, I think that as the commissioner,
you really don't have to wait.
You just pick for them.
Okay, because you were a little bit too lenient
with the people who weren't making their picks.
You should have just picked for them.
Okay.
Thank you for considering. That's just for cbs employees right i think so yeah okay yeah okay so you're saying if i don't show up he'll do the whole thing yeah all right speaking of dynasty
here we go dynasty tight ends heath and first question here i since the NFL draft, how much closer did Mark Andrews get to Kyle Pitts
with the Marquise Brown trade?
I think the best way to describe it is he was closer to three.
Like I thought, and then Pitts is still number one for sure.
But Andrews was closer to three at the position for me.
And now he's closer to Pitts than he is to three.
And I think if you're competing to win a championship,
there's an argument to be made that you could prefer Mark Andrews
over Kyle Pitts right now.
But it's a pretty significant difference between Pitts and Andrews
than anybody else because you've got kind of a couple of different groups.
You've got the Kelsey, Kittle, Waller,
which maybe they don't all deserve in the same group but the guys who are league winners right now and you've got the hawkinson
schultz goddard group who could be very good mid-range number one tight ends but aren't really
even all that young anymore except for hawkinson and then you got a whole bunch of youth
so how long can you expect them to be good you've got waller and kiddle approaching 30 you know
fairly soon i think one's gonna be 28 one's gonna be 29 this year i think one's gonna be 29 one's
gonna be 30 oh one's me okay i'm sorry uh you got andrews who is younger but what is he gonna be 26
this year i just had this up yeah andrews is not someone who's getting any sort of discount for age.
Andrew's going to be 27 in September.
Uh,
so what,
what age are you targeting here saying,
okay,
let's be buyer beware a little bit.
Um,
really Kelsey's the only one.
Cause if Kelsey wasn't 32,
he would be number one by a mile.
And he's number three now.
But I'm not discounting Hawkinson or Kittle or Waller yet
because I don't want to put those guys behind Dalton Schultz
and Dallas Goddard and Cole Commit and Pat Friermuth.
I guess are you just getting concerned about them?
I would not want to have them on my roster
if I don't think I'm one of the four best teams
in the league this year.
Okay, good way to put it.
Jamie, what do you think about the rookies,
specifically McBride?
I think there's obviously a lot to like
about where these guys could be,
but it may not be until certainly next year
where you feel comfortable about starting them,
barring an injury,
but you could see them becoming significant contributors right away.
McBride and Dolchitz would be my two favorites.
Jeremy Rucker from the Jets is very intriguing,
but how soon does he get an opportunity?
And will Zach Wilson still be the quarterback there
when he does get an opportunity,
especially if you ask Brady Quinn?
I think just looking at McBride in particular,
the absence of DeAndre Hopkins,
I hope will lead to a lot more two tight end sets
for the Cardinals and him being
the second tenant. And what I mean by that is they like Max Williams a lot as a blocker. And so,
you know, how much will they rely on maybe Ertz? Because we, you know, this happened to Ertz,
remember, Dallas Goddard, it was a slow burn, but it took, you know, the eventual thought was that
he was going to take over for Ertz. And we certainly saw Ertz go from that record-breaking season,
I think it was 2018, to start to fade a little bit.
And then he showed you he could still play last year at a high level.
So I hope that McBride joining the fold does not push Ertz more into a blocking role
because he is a very good blocker, whereas Max Williams is more of just strictly a blocker.
So we'll see what they do, how creative they get
with getting McBride in the field early.
But I do think by next year, you could see a McBride,
a Dulcich, a Rucker, those type of guys.
And there's probably a few others that I'm missing out.
But the guys that we're talking about
is the next potential breakouts.
Well, I think you just look like at the back end of the top 12 tight ends
and even the front end for some of these guys.
But I think you should just expect with Trey McBride
that you might not get anything out of him until year three
in terms of starting fantasy production.
And somebody had asked in the Dynasty mailbag this week,
should we even be drafting rookie tight ends?
Because it seems like it takes three years
and they're on somebody else's team before they're any good um i still want to draft the elite tight
ends but i like it might be a cole commit situation for trey mcbride where it's it's
three years before we're really talking about somebody we really want to use in fantasy
okay finally guys you know there's this big group of tight ends that Heath was just mentioning, front end of the top 12.
You look at number nine, Komet, all the way down to, say, number 15, Alberto.
And almost everyone there is 23, 24.
Brevin Jordan's 22 right now.
Mike Kosicki's the oldest one. He's 26.
But these are guys who are entering their prime.
Komet, Fryermuth, Fant, Erb, Smith, Kosicki, Brevin Jordan, Alberto. David Njoku's a little bit older. He's 26, but he's at 16 are entering their prime. Kemet, Friar Muth, Fant, Herb Smith, Gasicki, Brevin Jordan, Alberto.
David Njoku's a little bit older.
He's 26, but he's at 16th in his rankings.
If you look at that group,
the one that you think would be the best by-low candidate,
maybe someone that has the most potential
to jump into the top five next year,
who would it be?
I want to say commit,
but there's ever since the bears didn't make wide receiver,
a big priority.
Everyone's just kind of assuming he's number two on the team and targets and
going to have the breakout.
I think it might be fant just because of the possibility that going into next
year, DK Metcalf and Noah Fant could be the top two pass catchers on this
offense. And they might have a new rookie quarterback who really inspires some confidence. DK Metcalf and Noah Fant could be the top two pass catchers on this offense,
and they might have a new rookie quarterback who really inspires some confidence.
So if Fant could have just a borderline number one type season,
like he's done for most of his career, and then Lockett leaves
and they draft a quarterback, Fant could really have some value going into next year
and still just be 25 years old.
Give me the list again. Kemet, Friarmuth, Fant,
Irv Smith, Gasicki,
Brevin Jordan,
Okuwebenam, Njoku.
Friarmuth is so interesting because
they lose Juju, they
lose Washington. They bring
in Pickens, they bring in
Calvin Austin. We'll see
what those two youngsters provide, but we'll see what, you know, those two
youngsters provide, but, you know, we could see a, hopefully a target boost, you know, coming for
Friar Moose with a new quarterback and Kenny Pickett and, you know, or, or Trubisky. But,
you know, there, there's, there's an opportunity there, you know, whereas as, as Heath has liked
to joke, you know, the, the offense coordinator is now retired, you know, so no more Roethlisberger
calling plays and maybe there is a little bit more of a focus on the tight end and
they get a little bit creative with their receivers and how they use you know Deontay
Johnson and use Chase Claypool so uh I'll buy into Fryermuth as well is that your answer though
you think he has the most upside the best buy low in that group no I would say the same I I think
it's hard to not look at commit and say he he has the most upside, but Friar Muth, I would think, is still two for me.
Ready for some emails?
Oh, yeah.
All right, here we go.
First, we'll do our Apple Podcast questions.
If you have any questions on YouTube,
I would wait.
I guess let's get through the Apple Podcast
and the emails,
and then I'll give you a little shout-out on YouTube
to get the questions in,
and we'll do a little bit of your questions
as well at the end.
Coogfan121 is in a 12-team Superflex Dynasty League. The rookie
draft is next week. He says
I traded Jalen Waddell
for the second... What does Coogfan mean?
Coogfan. He's...
Yeah. Ages but a
number. I traded Jalen
Waddell for the second pick,
needing running back help badly.
And I also have pick five so he has
two and five if i take kenneth walker at two which receiver would you recommend at five i was thinking
olave but the landry news has me wondering if i should go a different direction garrett wilson
jameson williams etc so who would you pair with kenneth walker do you trade a jail and waddle
to get Kenneth Walker?
Looks like it.
We're outgrading that trade, though, thankfully.
That could be a good trade, right? It could be.
Yeah, it could be. I would not give it a good grade
right now. I think
when you look at Alave, if you're looking long-term,
you can't worry about Jarvis Landry
signing a one-year deal.
Michael Thomas, also 29.
A lot of it could be the number one guy in that
receiving core for 2023
and beyond and could be awesome.
If that's the guy you're targeting,
he's in the right range. I don't know if I would
take him maybe ahead of Jameson
just because of
what his, of Jameson Williams, what his upside could be.
If you think you're with now
then you don't want to necessarily look at jameson williams and say he's the best bet but i mean
garrett wilson could be there five for you right yeah i just say if assuming hall is going one and
you're taking walker two um i would i would take london wilson orks, one of those three, whichever one falls.
A quick thought here.
I think in a normal year trading Jalen
Waddle for the number two pick in a
rookie super flex draft is not bad.
It's good value,
but since the quarterbacks are so
bad this year, it just didn't really
work out.
I've already done one rookie super flex
dynasty draft
and one quarterback went in the
first round.
From DannyMac25
Dynasty League, get
J.K. Dobbins and Adam
Thielen. Give Josh
Palmer and a 2023 first round
pick.
Get Dobbins and who? Dobbins and Thielen. Give Palmer and a 2023 first round pick. Get Dobbins and who?
Dobbins and Thielen.
Give Palmer and a 2023 first round pick.
I'm giving it a round of applause.
I like it.
I guess unless the 2023 first round pick is in the top five,
it's a runaway.
Yeah, it's A plus.
Assuming that you're like,
I don't know why you'd be trading for J.K. Dobbins
and Adam Thielen if you're not a good team.
So, A+.
It's going to make you a lot better, too.
Yeah. In theory. Well, as we saw last year,
those guys didn't play.
Alright.
Time for emails now. FantasyFootball
at CBSi.com. This is from James.
Can you guys make an argument for not going
with two running backs? I'm hoping to get Justin Jefferson and then Jamar Chase with my first two picks.
It's a 10-team league.
Hopefully get a later pick and then get Justin and Jamar.
Your thoughts?
So you'd probably be getting those two guys
and then some running backs in the range of maybe Barkley,
Brees Hall, Zeke, Dobbins.
Maybe Montgomery.
Maybe Montgomery, Akers.
I mean, 10-team league, it's much easier to do.
Love it, love it, love it.
Okay, from Winston.
Do I trade for Cooper Cup, giving up Jonathan Taylor?
Wait, whoa.
Do I do a trade for Cup
for Jonathan Taylor and Derek Henry?
It says Henry.
Could be any Henry.
Yeah, who else could it be?
I don't know, but I'd like it.
Hunter Henry?
Could be Hunter Henry, yes.
Could be Hunter Henry.
Henry Rowan Gardner?
I'd still rather have Taylor.
Take the Taylor side?
Yeah.
Okay.
You're not giving up Taylor and something to get
anybody else. Right, right, right.
Unless it's like seven players.
This is from Kevin.
Kevin says, Dear Austin, Mitch, Morgan,
and Jack.
You need to get
the Oscars music as a
drop so we can play it halfway through you reading this email.
I'm not going to read the whole thing.
Okay.
Austin, Mitch, Morgan, and Jack are Toronto Maple Leafs,
according to Google.
You can know that as a hockey buff now.
Are they in the playoffs still?
No, they lost to the Lightning,
who are now up 1-0 on my Panthers.
And I don't have a good feeling about my Panthers.
I do think they're...
Is this the final?
No, it's the conference semifinals.
We've got a long ways to go.
Oh.
They're around behind...
Florida division.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're around behind the NBA.
They spent like two weeks in Florida
and gone the entire series.
Oh, yeah, right.
Could have driven back and forth to Tampa.
Yeah.
All right, here's the question.
I've recently proposed this rule,
which I've dubbed the taco rule in the leagues I commission.
You only do it on Tuesdays?
I don't know why it's called the taco rule.
I'm wondering if this is a league reference.
Yeah, that's my guess.
Yeah, I think it's the league.
Okay, no league vetoes.
In their place, we implement the taco rule.
Every trade that happens outside the rookie draft
has a 24-hour window from the completion of the trade
where either side can be countered
by another member of the league.
So let me explain.
Team A trades Jonathan Taylor and Ingram
to Team B for Jimmy Garoppolo and Brandon
Ayuk. Under current rules, the league would be up in arms and a huge debate would ensue with a lot
of bad feelings. But under the proposed taco rule, any other team could negotiate for the Jonathan
Taylor and Mark Ingram package. Team A can't add anything to the deal, but teams C through Z who
thought the value was too low,
have the opportunity to put their money
where their mouth is.
There cannot be a chain of counters.
Let's say Team A and C agree to counter the deal,
to a counter,
okay, they agree to a new deal.
To keep from having an open market on all players,
the deal stands so long as there's no collusion.
So, and the commissioner retains the right to veto any trade
if collusion is found and confirmed.
So basically, two teams...
So you two agreed on a crappy trade.
Yeah, yeah.
And the league goes up in arms about it.
Keith cannot propose a different trade offer.
Right, it's the same terms.
But I can make a different trade with you, Adam,
that we can then mutually grant.
Yeah, I get to accept my favorite trade.
The rest of the league gets to make another offer.
I kind of like
it.
I just think that Heath should be able to make another offer.
Once his offer is bested, Heath should then
be able to say, okay, I'm coming back with this.
So, what if,
and this is hard to prove, but
what if the
proposed trade of Garoppolo and Ayuk for Taylor
and I forget who else it was.
Mark Ingram.
Mark Ingram.
What if that was done as some sort of collusion?
Like, hey, I can't give you what you want for Taylor,
but maybe somebody else can.
So I'm going to make you just a terrible trade offer.
Right, right.
Yeah, that's why, well, I don't want to play that game
because if it's collusion, then it sucks,
but let's just say everybody has good intentions.
Like, take collusion out for a second
because I think that's a good point,
and it would almost certainly happen.
But, like, if someone has already agreed
to accept Garoppolo and Ayuk for Jonathan Taylor,
why do we have any faith
that they are now going to choose the best
offer they get when they receive multiple offers?
They've already shown they do
not have good judgment.
Somebody might offer them a better deal.
They'll take a better deal.
How about we keep the rules the same and just go eat tacos?
I like the rule
a little bit. I just think that it's not fair.
What do you like about it?
Just make a fair trade.
Because it's fun.
Look, I wouldn't do it in my league,
but I think it's fun if you guys are into it.
But I think if there's one change that needs to be made,
it's that the original team that's getting screwed
needs to be able to make a counteroffer.
Otherwise, what incentive do you have to start trade negotiations?
You're always going to
lose. The terrible trade was the Taylor side offering it. Well, I think you can counter
either side, right? No, but let's just say that's a good point. So the Taylor manager is the one
that offered the trade to the Garoppolo manager. So now the league is saying, okay, no, this deal is not fair because Taylor
is worth much more. Why is the person that accepted the trade offer now frozen out of it?
No, you're not. Either side can be countered. Either side can be countered.
Well, you said no.
No, I didn't say that. Either side can be countered. Either side of the trade can be
countered. What can't happen is the original offer, the two owners involved or managers
involved in the original offer, right now they involved or managers involved, the original offer,
right now they can't make another offer
if their offer is beaten by a different order.
They should be able to.
Okay, so we're all assuming that everybody's now
trying to make trades to acquire Taylor.
Right.
Can you make two trade offers?
So like you two guys made this terrible trade,
the league vetoes it.
Could I now offer a trade to you for Taylor
and then a trade to Heath for Garoppolo
if I want to try and inquire both sides?
Yes, you can.
This is so complicated.
Why are you complicating things?
I don't mind it, but I think...
And then the commissioner can still veto it on top of it?
If there's collusion, only in collusion.
How are they going to determine collusion?
You know it when you see it.
All right, let's go to Cooper'susion? You know it when you see it.
All right, let's go to Cooper's email, the one that I touted earlier.
I can see what the burrito rule is. Cooper said
that you're all
too low on Rashad Penny.
He goes on to lay out
how great his numbers were,
how Pete Carroll loves him. Quote,
I'm really excited about Rashad coming back.
The way he played at the end of the football season last year
just jumped off the film.
I don't know how we were able to get him back,
maybe because of his history,
but he was one of the best players in the league.
Yeah.
Wait.
Okay.
First off, you said this was a really good email from Cooper,
and I'm looking at it,
and there's lots of numbers and stuff.
Let's not lead with Pete Carroll
talking positively about someone.
That means nothing. But I already gave you the lead. stuff let's not lead with pete carroll talking positively about someone i know that means
nothing but i already gave you the lead the lead is rashad penny anytime he's had work he's been
awesome and um yeah so i i see a couple of what if penny is nick chubb and ken walker is cream hunt
or what if penny is derrick hen, like, those offenses are good.
Yeah.
This is not probably going to be a good offense.
The thing for me with Penny is how many games are going to play?
You know, you could tell me Ken Walker is going to be awesome.
If Rashad Penny plays the majority of the season,
he's going to be the lead running back.
I would be very surprised if he's not the lead guy.
It'll probably be like a 55,
45 split,
a 60,
40 split.
They'll be very close.
But I think if Penny's healthy,
he's going to lead the team and carry.
Okay.
That that's a,
I think it's pretty hot take personally.
I don't know that people see it that way.
I don't have it ranked that way because I don't expect Penny to play the
majority of season.
I mean, we're just, we have to go I don't have it ranked that way because I don't expect Penny to play the majority of the season. I mean,
we're just,
we have to go based on what his track record is just because he had a
strong finish and got a little bit of a reward for it.
I mean,
it's not like he got a long-term deal.
Yeah.
He got a short-term deal to stay in Seattle.
I mean,
that like Pete Carroll said,
I don't know how we kept him.
Well,
I mean,
who's going to pay a guy that can't stay on the field.
I,
I'm just saying, I think people feel like Ken Walker walks in
and he's a starting running back.
No, I don't think he walks in as a starting running back.
I think it's going to be something that Ken Walker has to earn
and Penny has to probably miss time.
And there's also the Chris Carson factor as well,
which is still looming out there until they decide to cut him
or put him on the pop list for the season or IR,
however they handle it.
But, I mean, Penny's career is an injury. It sucks. him or put him on the pop list for the season or ir however they handle it um but i mean penny's
career is an injury it it sucks because you see the upside i mean he was barry sanders last year
at the end of the season you know it's hard to overlook what he could be i mean we've been
waiting for it for four years but you know three plus injury seasons and they just drafted another
guy despite paying him you know as as he said i don't
care what pete carroll says their actions speak louder than what what he says and so they would
love a one-two punch they would love for rashad penny i'm sure to build off what he did last year
he was amazing but how can you trust that yeah i think his upside is leading a committee without the passing downs work.
And there's obviously significant risk that he could either get hurt or lose his job to Walker
or the offense is so bad that we don't care.
And it was, as Heath said,
this was a Russell Wilson-led offense
that he was running behind last year.
Drew Locker, Geno Smith,
I mean, how many touchdown opportunities is he going to have?
How good could this team potentially be?
I mean, this could be an absolute disaster.
Next email is from Kevin.
Hey, Barkley, Connor, Mostert, and Sanders.
Injury prone running backs.
Yeah, you put Penny on there too.
Injury prone running backs.
So Kevin has an issue with injury talk.
I've noticed that potential injuries
are consistently brought up and it feels like an unnecessary caveat a lot of the time. Clearly,
injuries are common occurrence in this violent sport, but I'm not sure how much it adds to the
analysis to mention the fact that a player could get injured. This is especially the case when
calling a player injury prone, since this is mostly just an award given to players who have
been unlucky recently. For example, people called Matthew Stafford, Frank Gore, and Keenan Allen
injury prone.
Without some means of quantifying likelihood,
we're really just playing pin the tail on the
donkey.
What do you think? Are we
factoring in injuries too much?
I mean, the position you have to factor in
the most clearly is running back.
How much has a guy
missed time over X amount of period of
time you know so for penny there's clearly a track record of missing significant time due to injury
you know the ones that we're going to probably dissect a lot are mcafree and barkley and you
know i don't know how many people are going to really you know be concerned about most of this
point but um you know mcafree how much of that was fluky?
You know, shoulder, ankle, hamstring.
You know, it's not like he tore his ACL.
It's not like he's had these significant injuries, whereas Barkley has.
You know, Barkley's had the high ankle sprain that, you know,
forced him to miss six games.
He had the ACL tear, you know, and so it's not always just the injury.
It's also the recovery from the injury,
and when is the player back to being their full selves? you know we got spoiled with adrian peterson that year that he comes back from a torn
acl in less than you know eight months whatever it was less than a year and he runs for 2 000 yards
you know players just don't do that you know cam acres is an outlier coming back from the achilles
injury and getting all the work that he did you know so uh i agree i don't think it's fair to
necessarily you know look at these guys and say injury prone
and say that they're always going to be injured.
But some guys, unfortunately, that's just been the nature of their careers.
Rashad Penny being kind of the poster child for that.
Will Fuller being the poster child for that.
These guys just don't stay healthy for whatever the case may be.
Yeah, I mostly agree with the idea that most players may overemphasize injuries, but there are certain guys. have earned that, that you just have to discuss it when discussing their value.
Because if we thought that those guys were going to play 17 games,
we would have to rank them a lot higher.
Right.
It's also, I think, you know, how you draft, you know,
so I did this most recent magazine draft and, you know,
I posted the, my team and the, the common, you know, detractor to it was these guys are always injured it was mcafree
it was godwin you know who's coming off really his first significant injury or you know dealing
with his first significant injury um trying to think what else i have on that team those are
the two that stood out uh i juju you know another guy that that seems to be getting an injury prone label. So, you know, if you draft
for what the most upside can be, you're going to take these guys. If you draft because you don't
want to deal with it, you can avoid them. I mean, you know, it's pretty simple. You know, if you are
risk averse, which a lot of people have a lot of success doing that, I'm not taking McCaffrey in
the first five picks. I'm not taking, you know, Chris Godwin, like, you know, Adam, I know, I don't think you're gonna take him around two anymore,
but you know, you may buy into round three. Like I said, round four, he said the three,
four turn, you know, you're going to take guys that are coming off of injuries with the
upside of what they can be, you know, taking Michael Thomas because of the upside of what
he can be, you know, those are the players that are league winners, but you know, you have to
factor in age with some of them. You have to factor in circumstances with, with some of them,
but if Barkley plays 17 games,
I don't care how bad the giants are.
I think he still has top 10 upside because of what I've seen from him.
But most people are going to say,
I'm not taking sake on Barkley because the last two years,
he's been a disaster.
Christian McCaffrey,
the last two years has been a disaster.
Michael Thomas has been a disaster.
I get it.
But I think if you're drafting to maximize your roster,
you're still buying into these guys
because of what they can still do.
Next email. It's about
Will Fuller.
It's from Mike S. in a
town 150 miles away
from Adam's house in Sleepy Hollow.
I'll put it in ways.
He says, hey, Smith, Farrell, and
Grace, and those are Wills.
With teams like the Falcons and the Bears
very obviously scraping the bottom of the barrel to find wide receivers,
why has no one signed and why is no one even talking about Will Fuller?
That's a good point.
I'd like to see him end up somewhere.
I hope he does.
There's a little talk.
I wonder if it's just like he's in a situation kind of like Juju
where, man, you got
to do something this year. You might, you probably not get more than a one-year deal and it's going
to be a prove it deal. And so he may be holding out for the perfect situation. Yeah. You know,
we don't, we don't know any contracts that have been offered to him. And he said, you know, no,
I'm I'll, I'll wait out until there's an injury in training camp. I'll wait out until there's
an injury in the season.
He still has something that it's hard to replicate,
which is speed, as long as he can still run.
You've heard the Browns rumors,
and they still may decide to do that.
And it might be a situation where they're waiting to find out that Deshaun Watson is,
because why waste six weeks of Will Fuller
if they don't have to pay him
and maybe sign him after week one
when his contract's not guaranteed.
So who knows?
I think if you have him in Dynasty, I haven't won Dynasty League.
You know, he's certainly a hold.
You know, I don't know how many people are actually actively shopping
to acquire him, but, you know, if you want to get ahead of it,
put in a cheap offer, you know, a third, fourth-round rookie-only pick
and see if, you know, some managers want to bite
because they're in a rebuild mode.
And maybe you get a, you know get a number two, number three receiver out
if he ends up in the right situation.
Next email is from Tyrell
in the fastest growing city in Idaho.
I have no idea.
Dear John, Hans, Carl, and Argyle.
Those are elves.
I have the second overall pick and Brees Hall is going first.
I could take Drake London,
but I already have pits.
I could take Garrett Wilson,
but I already have Elijah Moore.
What would you do with the second pick?
He has AJ Brown,
McLaurin,
DJ Moore,
Elijah Moore,
Sutton and Gallop.
Very good wide receivers.
He has Swift,
Javante Williams,
Clyde Edwards,
Z layer,
Ramondre Stevenson,
Daryl Henderson.
So would you go with
a wide receiver
or a Ken Walker
at number two?
And he already has
Pitts and Morris,
so he's a little hesitant
on London and Garrett Wilson.
But what would you guys do?
Can I go to Traylon Burks?
London is my second
ranked player,
but I don't feel strongly really in the order of two
through six so i would be seeing if i could move back and acquire some 2023 draft capital
smart or even 2022 capital as well if you can right this is from sergio 10 team full PPR superflex. I'm keeping Herbert with pick 1.9,
keeping Eckler at 4.2.
I need help with one more keeper.
Mike Williams in the 12th,
Marquise Brown in the 12th,
or Devin Singletary in the 13th?
And he says, let's go heat.
Not answering your question.
Or you got Marcus Smart back.
Marquise Brown.
I'm going to go Mike Williams.
I've got him just ahead of Marquise.
What percentage of games,
NBA playoff games,
if I told you X percent of games have finished with double-digit outcomes,
double-digit final score differences outcomes you know double digit final score
differences you know i'm saying decided by double digits what would be like oh well that's bad
30 percent more than half of the entire playoff yeah yeah because it feels like more than half
it's just been hot garbage every night man i just don't think that's true. It is. Sucks.
I mean, you're in this little Celtics world
where everything's peachy. There's clearly been
a lot of that. There's also been some great theater.
You know,
Heath might be a little biased because he just watched
Tatum versus Giannis for seven games, which was
amazing.
You know, Luca
against the Suns prior to game seven
was amazing. you know,
and just taking on that team essentially by himself.
So I don't know.
I mean,
to be fair,
I turn on the game,
I see the score and I go,
this game sucked.
So,
you know,
like I'm following it.
I,
I admittedly fell asleep.
At halftime of the game last night.
And so I missed the third quarter by the time I woke up. And the game
was out of hand at that point. But when
I think when I started to doze off, it was like
a 35-33 game.
Yeah, that doesn't count. It's got to be good for more than
70 points.
No, but it's like... Combined points.
Dallas was running on steam yesterday.
Again, traveling after playing a game seven
to have to go to a rest of the Golden State team.
The fact that they didn't get slaughtered
in the first quarter,
I thought, okay, they'll make a game of it
because they're the best player in the series.
Well, they didn't because the-
I will say that every game of the Dallas-Utah series
was within 10 points.
Well, good. Okay.
And that Memphis-Minnesota series was awesome.
That was a very good series.
Hockey has been better, though.
Okay, so let's read some YouTube questions.
YouTubers, go.
I got about five minutes to answer your questions.
Let's think.
There was a question about Austin Hooper.
That's a good question.
Do you think he can get back to his Falcons production,
Austin Hooper with the Titans?
No.
Yes, but you don't have to draft him that way.
From Scott, do you think David Njoku could be a back-end top 12 tight end this year?
Yes, but again, how many games?
It's not because of Jokowi Perced.
How many games is Deshaun Watson missing?
Okay, looking for more questions.
They're filing in.
NBA playoffs are terrible. What else can i talk about right now been watching kids in the hall would you guys ever watch kids in the hall no did you guys finish those are get no no what i know
it's horrible it's we have no time to watch it really stinks yeah kids in the hall yeah kids in the hall is 25 minutes and i can watch it by myself i have to watch. It really stinks. Yeah. Don't watch Kids in the Hall. Yeah. Kids in the Hall is 25 minutes,
and I can watch it by myself.
I have to watch Ozark with my wife.
That's the problem.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You haven't finished it either?
I've got to watch it with my wife.
I think I have three episodes left.
I think I've watched like three whole series
during the period of no.
Okay.
Okay, here we go.
10-team, one quarterback dynasty. The guy of Waller and Adams with Godwin, Higgins, McLaurin, here we go. 10-team, one quarterback dynasty league.
I have Waller and Adams with Godwin, Higgins, McLaurin, and Gabe Davis.
So it's Waller, Adams, Godwin, Higgins, McLaurin, Gabe Davis.
Very good.
I also have pick 105, and I have Devante Adams on the block.
He says thoughts.
I don't know what that means. Thoughts with 105?
I guess the question would be
it's a 10-team league.
The fact that you have
two picks in the top 10,
I would probably hold on
to Adams unless you're getting something just overwhelming
because this feels like a contending
team not knowing your running
backs you have you know top five tight end
you have you know clearly a very good receiving core
once Godwin's back
unless you're trying to
you know package Adams and maybe one of those picks
to move up and get something else in return I don't know
I would probably just hold on to him yeah if you don't
have any running backs
or quarterbacks
which you traded Jalen Hurts last year, so you should,
and you're trading Adams, then you should be trading Waller too.
But I agree with Jamie.
The wide receivers and tight end will be a contending team.
Are you buying a Zeke bounce back from Jeff?
We had a good discussion about him on our last podcast.
Are you buying a Zeke bounce back?
I think if you're buying him
at the right price, yes. If you're buying him to
produce as a top 10 running back
and you have to pay that cost, then no.
It's like Alan Robinson. I think
he's going to bounce back a little bit
from the end of last year, but not to where
he was in the past. I've got him at RB16
now. Does DeAndre Swift have top
five upside from Joe?
Upside, sure.
Where do you, from sure. Where do you draft Alvin Kamara in a Dynasty League right now?
Round two.
Yeah, I've got him at round three.
Last question from Matthew.
PPR, Superflex, Dynasty.
What wide receiver can I get for Chase Claypool and Jerry Judy?
I mean, Judy's probably all over the map.
Claypool, probably not so much.
But, you know, Judy, if you're expecting him to have this monster breakout campaign
or at least a moderate breakout campaign,
but you're not sold on that,
then, I don't know.
I think you may be looking at
Marquise Brown
and something.
That's low.
Yeah, I think you ought to be able to get
like
a
I mean,
if you're trying to get a,
you know,
when now player like Devante Adams might be able to pull it up.
Digs or Adams.
Yeah.
Uh,
okay.
All right guys.
Thank you.
Both those guys,
their values could be anywhere right now.
So it'd be tough to trade.
Both.
Judy's the one that should still command something.
But again,
it doesn't matter,
you know who you're trading to.
Okay. Have a great weekend, everyone a matter of who you're trading to. Okay.
Have a great weekend, everyone.
We will talk to you on Monday with an early ADP review.
I don't know what's worse.
You two not watching Ozark yet, or Dave not watching Taken.
I've watched...
Oh, it's Dave.
I think I'm on episode 12.
Yeah, me too.
13.
I just finished 12.
Okay, I just finished 11.
So you have three left and you have two left. Yeah. Yeah, me too. 13. I just finished 12. Okay, I just finished 11. So you have three left and you have two left.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So we'll get there.
We'll get there.
I mean, when Marty dies, you guys are going to stay.
Right.
Okay.
You know, why would you say that?
Because now I don't think he's going to die.
Goodbye, everybody.
We will talk to you on Monday on Fantasy Football today.
And the cartel beheads us.
I hate you. I hate you.