Fantasy Football Today - Last-Minute League Winners, Start or Sit for Thursday and Friday Games (11/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

If you can still make trades or just want to know which players could have big finishes, we'll give you our last-minute buy low candidates (6:00) including TreVeyon Henderson, RJ Harvey and Drake Maye... ... News and notes (17:15) and we answer your Facebook questions (18:50) about Quentin Johnston, Lamar Jackson, Courtland Sutton, Rome Odunze, Omarion Hampton and Bucky Irving ... Start or Sit for Chiefs-Cowboys (32:00), Packers-Lions (44:00), Bengals-Ravens (53:35) and Bears-Eagles (1:03:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know, some trips are just better when you can really unplug. Spend time with family, see friends, or hit the course with the guys on our yearly golf trip. This year, me and the boys stayed in a home on Airbnb, which happened to be a guest favorite, and it was right on the course. We could walk straight to tee off every morning, and it was just a short stroll to the local shops, bars, and restaurants. Staying in a place on Airbnb gives you plenty of room to spread out, cozy living areas to hang out in, and all the privacy you need. somewhere like that makes everything feel more like a home that a hotel and you get a real feel for the neighborhood. I'm already planning on how to go bigger and better next year. Luckily, there's so many options to choose from on Airbnb. So whether it's family, friends, or golf getaway, my
Starting point is 00:00:46 biggest tip is to check out Airbnb, check out their guest favorites, which are the most loved homes on Airbnb, and you'll be amazed at what you find. This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? And I know I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays at his feet. It's just going to go the distance.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. What's up? The festive day. Heath, I'm in a good mood. I've got the holiday spirit running through my veins. Good morning, Heath. Are we going to do like Thanksgiving dinner meal or draft or are we going to do puns of turkey puns or what we're thankful for what's on
Starting point is 00:01:39 what's on the agenda today wow i don't really think of any of that i i mean we do have another episode tonight that's going to air on thanksgiving but you're right we really should do it today i could definitely do what i'm thankful for what do you what are you thankful for from a fantasy standpoint You know, first off, I'm thankful for tomorrow's games because what an outstanding day of football. And I'm thankful for the Trevion-Henderson resurgence, or not resurgence, emergence. I'm thankful for all these rookies that we were like, you know, let's hold on, be patient, and they're starting to deliver. well we're hoping that they're going to start to deliver they're starting to deliver okay all right yeah
Starting point is 00:02:32 I am thankful for Jackson Smith and Jigba and his historic season and I'm so excited about it I'm really what do you mean really what like you were the one two years ago and I know Jamie remembers this and thought you it was absurd as I did you were the guy saying, I hope we don't have a Christian McCaffrey this year, because it's no fair when one
Starting point is 00:03:01 guy is so much better than everybody else. So I do like that. And I would say, let me see how many points he's averaging because he's not like he's averaging 27 points per game, 23.4 is really good. Whoa, really good. But it's not McCaffrey, McCaffrey in his prime, where he's, you know, basically LaDaney and Tomlinson. So I do think we have more parity the last few years.
Starting point is 00:03:24 had that ridiculously outstanding player. But what JSN is doing is really just remarkable. And I can't believe it keeps happening every week. Good morning, Jamie. Good morning. What are you thankful for from a fantasy perspective? You. Oh.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Just you. I appreciate that. All right. So listen, I did a Twitter poll yesterday. I said, has your trade deadline passed or can you still make trades? There's almost two thirds exactly. said trade deadlines pass. So we're not going to spend much time on that.
Starting point is 00:03:56 We'll give you some last minute by lows or just kind of look at some players that we think could thrive down the stretch. We have questions from Facebook, just some general questions about, you know, hot topics or players that are on people's minds. We'll do the news and notes. We're also going to preview four games today,
Starting point is 00:04:10 three on Thanksgiving and then the Black Friday game, Chicago at Philadelphia. And Heath, I got to give you credit, man. Like, you really did a ton of research. And, you know, we don't really like reward people when they go out and they sorry, I'm just full of filibustering here
Starting point is 00:04:26 when they do this much research but you put out a tweet yesterday that was impressive I'm going to share it now and very thoroughly looked into and it said is this the best Thanksgiving slate we've ever had?
Starting point is 00:04:44 Packers Lions features two playoff caliber teams and the loser may be in real danger of missing the playoffs. Chiefs Cowboys is a must win for both teams. Burrow back and a must win for the Bengals and close to the same for the Ravens.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Mahomes, Lamar, Burrow, Dak, golf, and love, phenomenal. And I understand you went through the history of Thanksgiving games and looked at win percentage and playoff probabilities. And this is the best slate we've ever had. So it actually starts with a question, not an assertion. So I was not saying that it was. I was asking if it was. It's fantastic that we don't have a bad team.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And as we were talking about beforehand, like we can just eliminate 75% of the Thanksgiving slates from being this good because the Lions for most of the NFL's existence and there's probably a couple of terrible Cowboys games in there as well I'm sure that this is the greatest Thanksgiving slate we've ever had.
Starting point is 00:05:36 If you think about it, it really might be. All right, let's talk about some last-minute bilos and Heath, we were talking before the show about a few running backs you're excited about. Yeah, I think three guys I'm very excited about versus their most recent production And that's Trayvion Henderson, who the usage was fantastic in Ramandre's first game back, and the production was not.
Starting point is 00:05:58 It's R.J. Harvey, the usage was very good, 61% snapshot in his first game without J.K. Dobbins, the production was not. Ken Walker, the usage was very good in that last week, and they talked about playing him more, but the production wasn't there. So I think those three guys will all be must-start running back's rest of the season, and Henderson may be a top 12 guy with his schedule. Giants, then a buy, Buffalo. Giants and Buffalo are 31st and 30th against running backs. At Baltimore, it could be tough. At the Jets in Week 17 should be good. That's trivia on Henderson's schedule.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Just got to ask about missing the left side of his offensive line, and if you think that's going to hold him back. Hopefully most of his carries will go outside of the parameters of the offensive line. We don't run between those holes. Get him on the edge. I watched all of his carries from the Cincinnati game, and it was disappointing because you can't, You know, you got great matchups coming up.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Teams that are 31 and 30. The Bengals might be 32 or they're up there, right? And he struggled against them. I feel like he was pretty close a few times. Pretty close. You can see the burst. It gets through there and just if he had made one guy miss, maybe a slip to tackle.
Starting point is 00:07:04 He could have had some big gains. So hopefully it'll happen. The Giants are not just the worst run defense in the NFL. In terms of yards per carry allowed to running backs, they're allowing a full yard more than the next worst team, which is Buffalo. The Giants are so bad. Harvey's got Washington, which is great, at Las Vegas, Green Bay, Jacksonville, at Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Harvey has a tough schedule in terms of run defenses, but hopefully catches, you know, at least three balls in game. Jamie, any by-lose? I said it was optional, so if you didn't do your homework, that's fine. It wasn't a side. No, I did. I mean, most leagues at trade deadline is done, so I don't think we should spend too much time. So whatever you had, it was fine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And then, okay, I'll give you just some schedule stuff. Indianapolis has a, has a, three really good matchups left. They have Houston this week, which isn't good. They have Seattle in two weeks, not good. But two games against Jacksonville, one against San Francisco. And it's especially good for Tyler Warren, because Seattle is a good matchup for tight ends. I want to talk about Drake May real quick.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Last four games, he struggled. His 17-game pace in those four games for Drake May, if you just look at it, he's not running as much, But, well, he's not running as efficiently. But it's also the touchdown interception rate. Drake May's 17-game pace in his last four games is 4,692 passing yards. But 26 touchdowns to 13 interceptions. And 102 carries for only 242 yards.
Starting point is 00:08:36 So I think you could look at that and say positive regression could be coming. If he's going to throw for that many yards, you should get better production. If he's going to run that much, you should get much better yards per carry than that. Um, C.D. Lamb. Has he fallen victim to just not facing good offenses as well? You know, he's averaging 32.3 pass attempts per game in that stretch, which is kind of a lot for him. They've been a little more pass heavy recently. I just, I think it's the interceptions are really hurting him. Um, and he's 8.6 yards per attempt in his last four games. That's
Starting point is 00:09:10 amazing. And but no good fantasy production. No. Yeah, I don't think it's that necessarily. But he does have Buffalo Baltimore. Three of those four games were one-score games, so they're not winning blowouts. Right. C.D. Lamb, I don't think... But it's also not forcing them to throw. Like, they can be conservative and run the ball.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Yeah. But they've been doing that all year, basically, because they've had such an easy schedule. But I think they've been a little more pass-heavy lately. Well, I shouldn't say that. I would say he's thrown more lately than he had earlier in the year. Anyway, C.D. Lamb, dominating Edzone targets, dominating red zone targets.
Starting point is 00:09:46 He and Ferguson are. He's in a little bit of a slump. Drops are a big part of it. He's among the league leaders and drops. So I think he should be fine, even though the schedule is not great. Cortland Sutton has a good schedule for what it's worth. We'll talk about him a little bit later.
Starting point is 00:10:01 The Saints have a great schedule. Sequin Barclay. You know, Sequin Barclay has had so few good matchups this year. And I thought maybe last week was one, and he ran like garbage or the line didn't help. But maybe Dallas is actually a good run defense. But you get Chicago. I think you've got to consider that at this point.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Probably, right? Chicago at the Chargers, then Vegas is a good run defense. At Washington, at Buffalo, it couldn't be much better for Sequin Barclay down the stretch in terms of run defenses. And Tampa Bay, I think, has a good schedule as well.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Great schedule. Yeah, how are we feeling about their offense, though? Because that's been in a funk. Well, I mean, their quarterback situation is obviously the biggest thing at this point. So if Baker's healthy, playing, I shouldn't say healthy, he's going to play through whatever injury he's dealing with. If he's out there, you'll feel somewhat confident, more so I think than Teddy Bridge,
Starting point is 00:10:58 or at least I will. Clearly, Emeka Buka has struggled the last three games, and I think he just have to view him as a number two receiver as opposed to we thought, okay, here we go. You know, no Godwin, no Evans, he's a locked in top 10 guy, and he just hasn't produced like that, whether due to his performance or defense taking away, et cetera. I'm excited by Bucky Irving coming back. So I think that's kind of where they pivot to a little bit. So maybe the passing game takes a little bit of a downturn. But you get now your best running back back.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And we've seen some good running game performances from them at times this season. Certainly the Buffalo game was a good example of that, what they can do when they commit to the run in a good matchup. So if they commit to Bucky Irving in good matchups, I think he'll have some opportunities for big games. And this could be one of them this week. You know, he's going to have fresh legs. He's going to have an opportunity probably to carry the office. offense. And so to me, he's a, I don't want to say slam dunk must start guy, but he's a definite number two running back this week. I'm really excited about Bucky Irving with their playoff
Starting point is 00:11:52 schedule and what he could be the last three weeks. I'm really not nervous about starting him this week just because they had, they said, I think it was the offensive coordinator said last week, we can't expect Chris Godwin and Bucky Irving to come back and be full-time players. It was 25 snaps for Chris Godwin in his first game back. I wouldn't be surprised if, I mean, they have two starting calip or running backs also. Not as good as Bucky, but I don't expect more than 20 to 30 snaps for Bucky in his first game back. Okay, well, we have a question about him and O'Mary and Hampton, who could be on the way back. Right now, though, I remind you, it is time for football at BEDMGM.
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Starting point is 00:13:09 because he gets the Jets in week 15 and Denver. Or just because he sucks. Well, yeah, but that was coming off a good game where we were more optimistic because before the Jacoby Myers trade. But what's funny is he faces the Jets. They don't have Gardner anymore. Well, he faces the Colts in week 17.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So he still has to face Certan and Gardner. Las Vegas has a pretty tough schedule. Genti, I mean, Gentie's been good and tough matchups because he's so involved in the passing game. But you have to mention it. After this week against the Chargers, it's Denver at Philadelphia, at Houston. Giants is great, but he has to get through Denver, Philadelphia, and Houston before that.
Starting point is 00:13:45 The Chargers... You have to assume with the new coordinator that they're going to be committed to running the ball. I can't imagine that they fired Chip Kelly without the intent of being more aggressive there, which I hope does not take away from him as a pass catcher. But they can't run the ball, right? I mean, they have... They don't even try. Yeah, well, they didn't, right, you're right, but they were so inefficient this year and tough schedule.
Starting point is 00:14:06 The Chargers have a tough schedule after this week. It's Las Vegas this week. Then it's Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans, and then at Denver and Week 18. And Washington has kind of a tough schedule. They have Denver at Minnesota, at the Giants, which is great. Philadelphia, and then Dallas in Week 17, which might be good for the passing game.
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Starting point is 00:16:51 Hopefully we get him for the rest of the season. Isaiah Pacheco is going to play this week, but Andy Reid wasn't sure how many snaps he will get. Arizona offensive coordinator Drew Petzing said Michael Wilson will have an increased role, even when Marvin Harrison Jr. is back. Mike Tomlin is optimistic about Aaron Rogers playing this week. D.K. Metcalf is nursing an ankle. It doesn't seem to be a big deal. They get Buffalo this week.
Starting point is 00:17:13 The Chargers designated Omerian Hampton to return from IR. Yeah. He was on fire before his injury. We'll talk about him in a little bit. The Bill signed Brandon Cooks. Josh Jacobs was limited. I don't, don't drop Manuel Wilson just yet. They didn't seem completely committed to Jacobs playing.
Starting point is 00:17:34 That game is tomorrow in Detroit. And they didn't tell us if Jaden Reed's going to play. I think Matt LaFlor said something like, You'll find out on Thursday. Lamar Jackson, Rashad Bateman, Kyle Hamilton. They all practiced. Doesn't mean they're all going to play, but I think Hamilton may be the most questionable there.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I feel like they're all going to play. Certainly Jackson's going to play. Cincinnati on Thursday. George Pickens is a little banged up, but he's going to play. Rishie Rice and Xavier Worthy practice in full, but Trey Smith is probably not going to play for the Chiefs at Dallas on Thursday. The linebacker news that I'm always looking at is Chicago linebacker T. Jay Edwards. Their run defense has been much better
Starting point is 00:18:10 with him. They're so beat up at linebacker that it may not matter, but he did not practice. They play Friday at Philadelphia. And Carolina safety, Trayvon Merrig is suspended one game for hitting Joanne Jennings in the nerds. Merrig is appealing his suspension and J.C. Horn is in the concussion protocol and his replacement.
Starting point is 00:18:28 That's their best cornerback. Corey Thornton is out for the season. So start Stafford. Start Stafford, yeah. All right. Facebook questions here? This one is from Ian Bowling. He says, what do I do with Quentin Johnston? What do I do with Quentin Johnston? Flip a coin.
Starting point is 00:18:49 He is in that group of boom-bust wide receiver threes that I think the best advice is you start them if you have to. Is there still the boom potential for him? Yes. Yeah, I think, yeah. You got to figure that they've spent some time working on their protection issues, and I believe you had a good game against the Raiders in week two. So there's still plenty of upside. It's just you can't say, oh, yeah, this is safe.
Starting point is 00:19:25 The stat that I come back to on this offense is the A-DOT in the last two games. So what's a low A-DOT? Six, seven yards, right? Yeah, six or seven. Okay, I'm not going to say it. Justin Herbert's eight out the last two games. 4.7 yards, 3.8 yards. I mean, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:19:51 He's getting the ball out so quickly. He never has time to throw. But one of those games, it was throw it sideways to Quentin Johnston 10 times. And he has the ability to break one of those. So I think if you look at his last three games, there's a zero. There's a 10 target game where he scored nine fantasy points. And then against the, I guess it was the Alt still, I all played a little bit against the Titans or not at all. He left, I think he played about 40% of the snap, something like that.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And he had a 15 point game in that one. So I think like he's behind James and Williams, but of the same ilk. All right. The only one you can start with confidence is lad. And then it's a gamble for the other two. Todd wants to know what is happening with Lamar Jackson
Starting point is 00:20:37 I'm rolling into the playoffs I hate to bench Lamar but the production just isn't there please help what's happening with Lamar Jackson I mean this is the week right you got to start him
Starting point is 00:20:48 this week against Cincinnati Dave would say no I think Dave has him outside that's fine I mean the reason production suggests he's not playing well and he's certainly seemingly
Starting point is 00:20:59 playing hurt based on his injury reports each of the last you know since the hamstring injury. So I get it if you feel like you want to go. I think Dave said he's going with Jacoby Percette. So I get it. You know, if you want to go that route based on what Preset has done, his stats have been better.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I just can't see myself sitting him against the Bengals. Like it's just too appealing of a matchup. His history against his team is obviously fantastic. He does not need to run to be successful against the Bengals. So like I'm going to start him. Dave has him 11th. So Dave doesn't have him as a sit. But he does have him behind Brissette.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And I think he's the only one of us that has Burrow over Lamar in this matchup on Thursday night, which I would start Lamar over Burrow. I think, like, what's going on is he's run 11 times in his last two games for 21 yards. And he hasn't thrown a pass touchdown. Like, that's pretty terrible. But I think they're going to probably have to be a little more aggressive offensively against the Bengals Burrow Beck. And he's a top six QB for me.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah, at Hopkins. is wide open for a touchdown on a nice double move. He missed him. Zay Flowers also dropped a ball. It would have been, you know, about a 16-yard gain or so. Mark Andrews had a touchdown, go through his hands. So he did not play that well, Lamar Jackson, but it could have been better. The rushing is really concerned.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I mean, there's no question he's hurt right now. I mean, kind of had a little bit of a debate about it on Monday. I just, I feel confident saying that he's not 100%. He's probably not that close. He's not going to give you your return on investment that you were hoping for at this point, you know, with the missed games and whatnot. But he could still get hot. He still has the ability to win with his arm.
Starting point is 00:22:38 You know, I know we drafted him because of his dual threat potential. And so if he's not running, there's still, I still think enough upside that he could be a number one quarterback. But look, the recent production in some cases for some of these top end guys and injuries throughout the season for some of these guys, like we'll have this conversation again next off season about when do you want to draft your quarterbacks. Yeah. And I think there is, if you want to be optimistic,
Starting point is 00:23:04 hopefully the mini buy after the Thursday game, he comes back a little healthier after that. And still gets the Bengals one more time. So if he has a big game here, you're going to be thrilled about it. Is Cortland Sutton dropable? That is what an anonymous Facebook user wants to know. Is Cortland Sutton dropable?
Starting point is 00:23:22 No, I think I'd be more likely to start him this week than drop him. If it's a bad game this week where he has four targets and Troy Franklin has eight, then maybe you start having that conversation. But he's a borderline wide receiver two for me this week. Great matchup. Two great matchups in a row at Washington at Las Vegas. From Ryan Rogers.
Starting point is 00:23:42 How did no one give Dave praise for his McLaughlin building a mystery comment today, pure gold? It was very good. I agree. I don't think Heath knows what that is. Jamie, I'm thinking, yes, I'm thinking Jamie does get the reference. No. Oh.
Starting point is 00:23:58 No. Sarah McLaughlin burst onto the scene with her hit Building a Mystery. It's a pretty good song. All right, Joshua wants to know
Starting point is 00:24:05 would you trade Rishi Rice for RICO Dowdell? I would prefer not to, but I get it if you need a running back and that's the best you can do. No.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Hell no. Are you kidding? Not even close. Rishie Rice, I was thinking about this, Rishie Rice would be a top, maybe it'd be a first round pick
Starting point is 00:24:26 we were drafting today. I think it'd be a top four a receiver. Good grief, I would not trade Rishi Rice. I mean, Dowdell's basically been a number, a second round pick. Like, it's not like it's far off. I think we're kind of forgetting the last three games for Rico Dowdell. He's rushed like garbage in two of them, was so uninvolved in this last one. He saved his bacon two weeks ago with the receiving totals, but this is not close to me. The role for Rishi Rice, I think, is what makes it not close. I thought rice hasn't quite been the player
Starting point is 00:24:59 that his fantasy production suggests but they keep throwing it to him so much it doesn't really matter he played 62% of the snaps last week and he had... I wonder just with the hamstrings I know he practiced in full but like I'm still a little concerned. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:25:13 That's probably where I'm coming from is that I'm just thinking you've been limping around. I think that's a big concern for the chiefs in this game because you've got 30 old cream hunt coming off 30 touches on a short week and then Rishi Rice with a hamster. string injury. Their offense could be hamstrung.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Oh, nice. All right, this is from Nathan. Nathan Weatherholt. If the CBS News said, Weather Center, Rome wasn't built in a day, right? Why has Odunze fallen? I hate starting him. I mean, I like that he had nine targets last week,
Starting point is 00:25:47 so hopefully that's something that can be repetitive and he gets more opportunities because that's, to me, been the biggest issue, is his lack of chances. I think you still consider him a borderline number two, number three receiver at worst. The problem is, last week was the good week. It's nine targets, six, ten, three, ten, six.
Starting point is 00:26:10 So we're getting three to six targets this week. Hope he squirt the touchdown. When you look at his target share, though, Romo Dunezay's target share, he's only got, I think, two concerning games. He has a 17% game, an 8.8% target share game. Other than that, he's been 21.4% or higher every single week. I'm pretty sure. I should double check this.
Starting point is 00:26:32 But, you know, low 20s isn't great. You get into the 24% range, and that's really good for a target share. And he's usually there. Two of the last, three of the last five, four of the last six, he's been 24% or higher. This past week, he had three cats. I would say very close to having three more catches for about 45 yards. It just were a little bit off. And that's kind of the thing with Caleb Williams.
Starting point is 00:26:55 It's like, Caleb Williams is one of the most inaccurate quarterbacks in the NFL. He makes some incredible plays, but he is so inaccurate. And some of it, like, I think one was probably a drop. A couple were just like a little bit off. But he had three catches for 53 yards. He almost had six catches for about 90 yards. He's lost several points over the last six weeks to drops. That's been a little bit of an issue.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And generally with good receivers, we just don't care about that. All right. One more here is, by the way, he's ranked as about a number two receiver this week. And that's Roman Dunez. I'll end with this one. What can we expect out of Bucky Irving and Omari and Hampton rest of season? I would say you just played safe and column number two running backs. I would say that in their first game back, I would expect to flex and rest of season, they could be high-end RB2s.
Starting point is 00:27:50 But the good thing is, is they're walking into great matchups. So to Heath's point, you know, the workload will probably determine how. successful they are. Well, I don't know that Hampton's playing this week, or we don't know that yet. If he comes back this week, that's great. You're playing Las Vegas, but they actually have a good run of events. But, I mean, look at, it's Philadelphia, Kansas City, Dallas, both those games around the road in Houston for Hampton. That's horrible in terms of run defenses.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah, I like Bucky quite a bit more than Hampton once they're ramped up. You guys are, what's your concern level after this week? I know Heath, you already talked about this, but after this week, Your concern level that the Bucks go committee, like so many other teams, and that we're surprised at the role of Sean Tucker, the role of Rashad White, and the diminished role of Bucky Irving, that possibility. Jamie, what's your concern level for that? I mean, you saw last year what they did with Bucky,
Starting point is 00:28:43 and then they ramped him up at the end of the season, and it was, you know, a featured guy. My guess is if they're going to do that, it's going to be clearly on a much shorter, you know, game span. So I'm still hopeful he's going to be a top 10 caliber player. That's kind of why I just phrased it the way I did. Like, I think he just treat him like a number two running back because of that potential, because of maybe the quarterback situation being awful if it's not Baker. The schedule's great. His upside is incredible.
Starting point is 00:29:10 He's going to be involved in the passing game to whatever degree they allow him to. But we've seen that with Rashad White, you know, still being a significant pass catcher. That could be his role. You know, really it's about Tucker, I think is the wild card. Because if they're going to give Tucker carries, then I think Bucky's in a little bit of trouble if they're going to just go back to what they did last year where Tucker was okay great for one game and then you know like we saw last week he wasn't he was obviously struggling against the Rams but the entire office was disaster so I still just would view him again number two running
Starting point is 00:29:37 back with potential to be top 10 guy this was the I think we will almost certainly have a committee his breakout in the second half last year in his healthy games 52% snap share 54 44, 57, 5571. Like, he had one game where it was lower than that prior to that stretch, right? It was in the 30s and 40s, right. So, but it's going to be a committee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the thing you just have to worry about is because they were starting to phase out
Starting point is 00:30:11 Rashad White. My guess is they'll probably feel comfortable phasing out Rashad White again. So it's a matter of just how many carries that Tucker gets because what they were doing last year was White was still playing on passing those. Yeah, the thing is the first three games of the year. year, Bucky Irving played over 71% of the snaps. I don't think we're getting that. Okay. All right. And then
Starting point is 00:30:30 Rodrigo asks on Facebook, is diehard a Christmas movie? Roderigo, come on. You know the answer. Obviously. Obviously. It's not a Christmas movie. It is an action movie with Christmas decoration. I don't understand how we had the guy who wrote the movie on our show and told you it was a Christmas movie and you're still refuting this for years. It doesn't
Starting point is 00:30:46 make any sense. Yeah. Yeah, what he said, I agree. What he said does not make any sense. But what he said, if I recall, was that he didn't think it was a Christmas movie until he saw the set and he saw all the decorations and all that. And that's my whole point, because it's not a Christmas movie. It's just dressed up as a Christmas movie. He made the movie.
Starting point is 00:31:03 He says it is a Christmas movie. You are just making yourself look dumber every time you make this argument. Kansas City's at Dallas. Let's do it. Here we go. It's out of the game. So is this a Thanksgiving show even though it's not on Thanksgiving? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Just because of the set. Oh, oh, oh. No, because we're going to talk about Thanksgiving. we're going to talk, you know, we've got to... Oh, so they, because they talked about Christmas, so they must meet Christmas movie. This is not a Thanksgiving show. This is the Thanksgiving edition of Fantasy Football Today.
Starting point is 00:31:33 This is a fantasy football show. Why do we have the... What's the little hat there in the bottom? That looks like a... It looks like a pylon. It looks like one of those cones, but it's painted brown. It looks kind of like a Pilgrim's hat. It does, I agree.
Starting point is 00:31:47 So let's... Now, let's talk about Cowboys. Kansas City at Dallas. So, Dak Prescott, your stat of the game, at least here's mine. Heath will have a better one. Dak Prescott has thrown three or more touchdown passes in five games this season. Only one quarterback all year has thrown multiple touchdown passes against the Chiefs, and it was Justin Herbert in week one.
Starting point is 00:32:11 No, no, no. Sorry, he's the only one who's thrown more than two. He's the only one who's thrown more than two. Three quarterbacks have thrown more than one, but Herbert's the only one who's thrown more than two against the Chief. So Dak came through in a tough matchup last week. Are there any concerns about Dak this week? No. He's QB8 for me, ahead of Burrow, ahead of Brissette for me.
Starting point is 00:32:31 You start him. You start him. Who's the, okay, we've got Dak, we've got Mahomes, golf, love, Burrow, and Jackson. Yeah. And we're also going to talk about Hertz and Caleb today. Who's the best quarterback on Thursday and Friday? Ferts. Fantasy or reality?
Starting point is 00:32:59 Fantasy. Mahomes. So, yeah, so start that. Are you guys back in on Mahomes? Because he has been struggling the last three games. Must start? Must start. Yeah, I think this is a, assuming rice is fine.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I think this is a big game for Mhomes. Yeah. It is kind of weird to call. all anybody a must start when a guy who went undrafted in a lot of our leagues is my QB1 for the week. So I guess if you picked up Matthew Stafford, he's not a must start.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I couldn't figure out who it was. One thing for Mahomes, first eight games of the year, past attempts from the five yard line are closer. 14 attempts, seven touchdowns. Last three games, six attempts, zero touchdowns. So that's just kind of one of those fluky in-season things.
Starting point is 00:33:51 he's also run about half as much since rashi rice showed up so he was about six rush attempts per game before rice has been about three cents so the 30 point upside's probably not there with with three rush attempts per game uh someone asking mohomes or nix great question nicks at washington a little concerned with nix just how much is he's going to throw i thought you're going to say because he was outside or not outside but on the road it's definitely on the road as well, but I have a feeling this is a run game for the Broncos. But I'm starting both. Who's your start of the week?
Starting point is 00:34:29 Harvey. Oh, I like it. Dak or Drake May? I'd go, Dak. I've got Drake May. Okay. So. I think this is the shootout of the week.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I hope so. 52 and a half. And here's the, is that that's the total. The Chief's defense, they face a lot of great offenses. They held the Eagles to 20. They're not a great offense. They held the Ravens to 20. They held the Lions to 17.
Starting point is 00:34:55 They held the Colts to 20. All of those games were at home. When they weren't at home, the Chargers scored 27. The Bill scored 28. So their defense has been a lot better in Arrowhead than away from Arrowhead. Who's the best running back in this game, Heath? It's Javante Williams. He's not ranked as high as he has been for a lot of this season,
Starting point is 00:35:15 but he's still for me a top 20 guy for sure. I think he's close to 16 with Pacheco back and Kareem Hunt like three days removed from a 30 carry game. I'm a little worried that they manage his workload in the game. So he's he's a borderline RB2, but Javante's definitely the best. Someone's asking Harvey or Kareem Hunt. Who we going there? Harvey. Harvey. How about Harvey or Javante? Harvey for me. I have Harvey one spot higher in full PPR. Javante, three straight games with 12.1 or fewer PPR fantasy points. He's really had tough matchups most of the year.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And he's been efficient. He just had 20 carries for 87 yards against the Eagles. That's not bad. 22 carries for 93 yards at Las Vegas. He's just not scoring. He's not giving you much in the passing game. The passing game, I think, is the key thing. Because you look at the first five, six games of the year, it was five,
Starting point is 00:36:17 catches, six catches, two, three, he had only one game with just one catch in his last five, which I think coincides with Lamb coming back and having everybody healthy, six receptions in his last five games. They're just not throwing it to him. Well, it's also their goal line play is George Pickens. Yeah, or actually been Lamb a lot too, but yeah, they're, they're, and I think if I'm not mistaken, he got down to like the half-yard line, didn't he? on Sunday
Starting point is 00:36:48 one of the guys He definitely was down there I don't know where he was but inside the five I think he got just missed All right so Jamie's got him 21st
Starting point is 00:36:57 so he's not as great of a start as it usually A really good run defense too It's not just fact that he's struggling Like this run defense is fantastic Look what they just did to Jonathan Taylor
Starting point is 00:37:05 Would you start Trayvian Anderson Over Javante? Yeah Would you start Tyrone Tracy at New England over Javante? He's the most fascinating guy for me this week Because you got dart back
Starting point is 00:37:15 and what he may do as a rusher and will he still be as successful as a pass catcher because the Patriots run defense is amazing but they've given up to big games to pass catching. They're injured though. They're quite... They are. That's true. I think
Starting point is 00:37:29 I think I'd still start Giovante over Tracy. I would start Tracy over Hunt though. I agree with that order. Okay. So start Lamb, start Pickens. They're both, I think, in the top eight. Start Rishu Rice if he plays. I think probably
Starting point is 00:37:45 people are going to sit Xavier Worthy, but if Rice doesn't play, I got to say, Worthy wasn't that great before Rice came back, but if Rice doesn't play, where would you rank, it's just kind of a silly question because Rice is practicing full, but where would you rank Worthy on the off chance, Jamie? Top 30. Yeah, he's 37 for me right now, one spot behind Quentin Johnston. He's not shown the upside as recently as Johnston, but I still think the Cowboys have given up a ton of deep passes.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I don't know if Patrick Mahomes and Xavier Worthy can connect on one of those because they haven't. But there's an opportunity for a boom play, but you'd like to stay away from them. It's funny. Tyquan more so than Worthy? It could be. I mean, they've taken shots to both. Tyquan's the only one who's been able to connect on a few of them. So I think wide receiver, like every position except for wide receiver, it's like, yay, there's no buys.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Look how deep it is. There's so many guys to start. And a wide receiver, it's like we almost have 36 wide receivers I want to start, almost. Yeah, I'm beyond excited about Yoshevas and Greg Dorch this week. So you start them overworthy? I would, yes. Okay. And Parker Washington, those type of guys.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Let's talk about the tight ends here. I think Worthy is a great DFS play. So it's Taekwondo. Since the start of 20, I think I said this last week. Since the start of 2024, Xavier Worthy has one of the lowest catch rates on deep ball. He is in some really bad company there. It's less than 20% of his deep balls he's catching. And it's a wide variety of reasons.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Sometimes he and Mahomes are not on the same page. Sometimes he catches the ball standing out of bounds. And sometimes Mahomes misses him by 10 years. Yeah. Okay. So anywho, the tight ends here. Jamie quickly, well, not so quickly. Your thoughts on the tight ends.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I mean, Kelsey's a must-star guy. I think Ferguson's still a must-star guy. You know, you can, like I have Brenton Strange and Dalton Schultz ranked ahead. of Jake Ferguson. I don't know if I'd be dropping Jake Ferguson. I would not be dropping Jake Ferguson for those guys, but clearly Ferguson has not been the same guy since Lamb's return and Pickens' emergence.
Starting point is 00:39:54 So just understand what you're dealing with, plus the Chiefs are really good at defending tight ends. And I just think Kelsey right now is still one of the go-to guys for Patrick Mahomes in a matchup that I think they're going to throw a lot. So I'm starting him top five tight-in. Jake Ferguson or Joanne Johnson? Joe Johnson. Jake Ferguson or Theo Johnson?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Ferguson, I think, is one spot ahead of Theo for me. You want to guess what Jake Ferguson's target share is since C.D. Lamberturned in week seven. Negative 4%. 18%. 13.4%. Yikes. I'm trying to find this damn Javate Williams run. whatever, I've run out of time.
Starting point is 00:40:41 All right, sit the DSTs. Let me see if I have any more questions from this game. Lamar or Mahomes? Sorry, go ahead. Just to go back, it is Mahomes. Just to go back to Ferguson real quick, because that 13.4 might be a little misleading. He had the one target game against Denver.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Since then, it's been, like it's six targets a game. Yeah, that's true And you had a backup tight-end score touchdown last week That could easily be him Yes, we did have that Not that I'm excited about starting Ferguson I think he's like There's 18 low-end tight-end ones
Starting point is 00:41:26 And he's in the middle of them I found the Javante run Yes, he did get down to inside the one-yard line Did not score great Okay, Ferguson or Gadsden Good question here Gadsden Hunter Henry against the Giants or Ferguson
Starting point is 00:41:39 That's very close. I think to Heath's point, like that's where the range is for Ferguson now. I just don't want to chase Henry's production after he just did what he did against the Bengals. Yeah, I think Flip a Coin is the right answer, but I've got Ferguson one spot higher. All right. And that's it. So the DSTs. That's it for Chiefs and Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:42:02 All right, we'll take a break. We got three games left. Green Bay at Detroit. Reasons why Jordan Love might actually throw the ball when we come back. Ontario. The weight is over. The gold standard of online casinos has arrived. Golden Nugget online casino is live, bringing Vegas-style excitement and a world-class gaming experience right to your fingertips. Whether you're a seasoned player or just starting, signing up is fast and simple. And in just a few clicks, you can have access to our exclusive library of the best slots and top-tier table games. Make the most of your downtime with unbeatable promotions and jackpots that can turn any mundane moment into a golden opportunity. opportunity at Golden Nugget Online Casino. Take a spin on the slots, challenge yourself at the tables, or join a live dealer game to feel the thrill of real-time action, all from the comfort of your own devices.
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Starting point is 00:44:10 Past attempts are good for fantasy. So here are some reasons why Jordan Love might actually throw the ball in this game. Jemir Gibbs and Len Ross St. Bro. Yeah. He has 36 or more pass attempts in two of Green Bay's three losses and in their one tie. Green Bay's defense has been much better at home than on the road. Four of the five quarterbacks to face Detroit in Detroit have thrown 33 or more passes. So there are some reasons.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Also, the touchdowns have really been, though, this is different, but he had 13 touchdown passes in his first seven games, only two in his last four games. The Lions have allowed multiple touchdown passes to eight of the 11 quarterbacks they have faced. Jordan Love is not a top. I mean, I know you guys don't trust him, but Heath, in terms of game script
Starting point is 00:44:52 and what it could mean for Christian Watson, what could mean for Jordan Love, who's still rostered in most leagues, what do you think about this Packers offense at Detroit? So, yeah, Love has thrown 21 and 24 passes in his last two games, And I think that coincides maybe with health concern as much as the fact that they gave up 13 points a game in those two games. It's probably a devil-edged sword.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I've got him projected for 30 passes just because I do think there's a chance they're playing from behind and the Lions score some points. The problem is you have no idea on a weekly basis. I mean, we feel the best about Christian Watson right now. But you can go through the entirety of the last probably three seasons. and see whether starting the Packers' wide receiver that was best last week is a good strategy. And I don't think it often is, because if it was, Romeo Dobbs would have been a lot better in a lot of weeks. If Reed doesn't play Dobbs and Watson are both wide receiver threes. If Reed does play, I have like no idea.
Starting point is 00:46:00 The total is 49, and it's a two and a half point spread. so Vegas is expecting a good fantasy type of atmosphere yeah high scoring game with both teams scoring Jamie what are you expecting in this game um I can't trust Jordan love you said it it's since Tucker Kraft has been out he's had one good game it was against a Giants and yes this lion's defense the secondary has not been great they're hopefully getting Terry and Arnold back so we'll see what that means for them. But I think to what he said about the health, like he's playing with the left shoulder injury. If you watch a hand off, he's handing off his right shoulder with his right hand. Like there's, there's clearly something off with him at this point. And I don't think that
Starting point is 00:46:49 this is going to be a game where the lions go crazy offensively. And so you could say, wow, James Winston had a huge game against him last week. The trick play on the touchdown to Wondell Robinson was as wide open as any receiver, I think you'll ever see, you know, and certainly in a long time. He caught a touchdown. I don't think Jordan Love is doing that. And so I don't think this is going to be a huge game for Jared Goff. I think he's going to be in that 20 point per game range. He typically is on Thanksgiving. And this is still a really good Packers defense that held this Lions offensive check. I know it was in their building in week one. But I don't expect it to be high-scoring. I take the under, actually. So I think we're going to get, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:29 you're not benching the key members of the Lions. You're not benching Josh Jacobs. But everybody else, to me, is bordering. Here's an annoying question that you're going to get mad at me for. Okay. Can you say in their building if it's an outdoor venue? Well, it's still a building. Is it?
Starting point is 00:47:48 I don't know if it's a... How would you define a stadium, Mr. Christmas movie for diehardt? Is a stadium a building? This is a fantastic question. Is anything that doesn't have a roof a building. I think that's really the question here. And I don't know the answer. I think the chat probably should answer this.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Thomas, can we get a YouTube poll in a stadium of building? This is why we're going to move on in the 64. All right. So Jacobs, here's another. The footballers are just throwing out stats left and right. We're debating. Yeah, exactly. How many running backs have scored more than 16 PPR fantasy points
Starting point is 00:48:26 against the Lions? One. Quintan Judkins is the only one to do it. Josh Jacobs, if he plays, is he going to be a top 12 running back, Heath? Very close to 12. I wish he could have got a full practice in. And they're like, yeah, he's fine. We gave him the week off and he feels good. I've got him at RB10 in full PPR.
Starting point is 00:48:52 I think we probably, they're going to try to run the ball 15 to 20 times. how many of those go to Jacobs, how many go to Wilson, you probably have a little bit of a re-injury risk. You still have to start him. First matchup, Jacobs had a good game.
Starting point is 00:49:10 He had 14 fantasy points. Not great. 19 carries, 66 yards, and a touchdown, one catch for four yards. Okay. So the wide receivers are just kind of flexes,
Starting point is 00:49:22 Watson and Dobbs. How would they compare to Yoshavus, Jamie? I'd rather start Yoseph. All right. Sit Luke Musgrave, sit Brock right. Jared Gough is, I think, 11th for Jamie. Let me check the updated rankings. 12th for Jamie, 13th for Dave, 13th for Heath. So most of the guys playing on Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:49:42 you're going to start ahead of golf, but not Jordan Love. And Burrow and Lamar are ahead. How about Caleb Williams or Jared Gough? Golf for me. Golf for me, too. All right, golf is one spot ahead of Bo Nix. for Jamie, but Bill Bo Nix is four spots ahead of golf for Heath. So Jamie said kind of low 20s and fantasy points for Jared Gough.
Starting point is 00:50:05 That's what we're expecting. So he's played four games on Thanksgiving with the Lions. Three of them, he's been 20.1 or more. I think that's kind of where he is. You look at the Packers and their last four road games, three of those quarterbacks have been basically that number. The one that did not do it was James Winston. So on the road, their production to quarterbacks has been.
Starting point is 00:50:27 been better for the quarterbacks at least. So I don't think you run away from golf, but I don't expect a huge game for him. I don't know how you can. We're running away from Montgomery, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Very.
Starting point is 00:50:41 And Jemir Gibbs is going to be running away from defenders, start him, start St. Brown, start or sit, Jameson Williams. He's a rich man's Quentin Johnston. I'm going to guess that, you know, after what happened last week where they didn't involve him, Dan Campbell goes back to doing that to what extent we'll find out. So you just have to treat him, I think, as a number three receiver.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Like, I'll speak for myself. I got, you know, too, you know, over-excited about where he was, what he had done the two previous games with Campbell calling plays and the matchup against the Giants. And then, you know, here we go again. Man, this is a really good defense, this Packers defense. And week, week one, James had a terrible game. And so did Amman Ross St. Brown. They've held those two guys, McLaurin, McMillan, Justin Jefferson, Marvin Harrison, Jr., A.J. Brown to single-digit PPR fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Not to say that no one's ever been good against them, but it's tough. And, all right, JMO, let's do some J-M-Os. J-M-O or J-Mante? J-Vante. Yeah. J-Moh, or Devin Neal at Miami? Let's go, Neil. I've got
Starting point is 00:51:58 Neil at 11.6 in full PPR there's zero chance that JMO scores within five points 11.6 so I've got JMO slightly JMO or Cortland Sutton Sutton and Jamo or Tetero and McMillan
Starting point is 00:52:19 against the Rams Nick don't yeah The definition of building on... Eric's helping us out. Eric. Eric. Fully open-air stadiums, no roof over the field,
Starting point is 00:52:34 are still classified as buildings in architecture and engineering. Okay, thank you. Eric! Dictionary.com says it is a usually roofed and walled structure. So it could... But, yeah, there's lots of rooms inside of open-air stadiums that have walls and roofs. well those rooms aren't buildings
Starting point is 00:52:57 they're part of the building you are building a case as to why you're a moron 28% are saying no I think I'm on the yes side now you guys are idiots Cincinnati's at Baltimore oh Packers
Starting point is 00:53:11 Packers DST you started now you're on the end fooled you Packers DST Jamie says they could you could start them he says no they are eighth for Jamie
Starting point is 00:53:23 they are 16th for Heath and where's Dave have them somewhere they're somewhere for Dave between 18th no they're not they're 19th oh okay Cincinnati at Baltimore it's that of the game Baltimore is 27th in pressure rate and 29th in sacks they can't get to the quarterback they couldn't even get to to Rod Taylor until super late in the game so here's it I mean here this is the question of the game burrow and Lamar Jamie how much faith you have in these guys? I mean, last year, Joe Burrow threw for 820 yards and nine touchdowns against the Ravens. Like, I know you can't expect that.
Starting point is 00:54:03 There's no T. Higgins. It's first game back after a long layoff. He wasn't even good in the first healthy game that he played against a really good defense in Cleveland before he got hurt against Jacksonville. But it's still Joe Burrow. You know, so if I've been stashing him, I'm clearly comparing him to whatever quarterback I have. So, you know, Matthew Stafford, I'd start Stafford.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Jacobi Brissette, I'd probably still start Berset. Um, once you start to get to the, you know, to a tongue of Iloa's of the world, clearly I'm going to start Joe Burrow. So I think you consider him a low end starter, you know, in the 10 to 12 range and hope that he's not, you know, too off from not playing. And, and yes, the Ravens have not gotten to the quarterback. They just don't give up fantasy points to quarterback. Now granted, they face a lot of trash, uh, for the majority of the season. So take that into account, they haven't faced a player of Joe Burroughs potential. And so, you know, you just kind of go into it with, I hope, that he's Joe Burrow.
Starting point is 00:54:59 And that's kind of the way I'm approaching it. The Ravens have allowed three touchdown passes in their last six games. That was Stafford with Puka getting hurt, Caleb Williams, Tua, McCarthy, the Browns guys, and Tari Taylor. It's impressive even with the matchups, but it is certainly somewhat matchup related. all right heath what do you think about jackson and burrow pretty much everything jamie said i think you're starting lamar jackson and joe burrow is like you said the most difficult decision of the week i would still start brissette over burrow um i would start nicks against the commanders over burrow i've got dart one spot hot higher for now i will be i i generally will probably do a rankings update projections
Starting point is 00:55:47 update on wednesday night on thanksgiving day and dart burrow Burrow and golf in that 11 through 13 are right now separated by about 3 tenths of a point. So if there's some line movement or something like those three are kind of interchangeable for me. But it's really the end of the good QB ones is that 11 through 13 range. Burrow played five games without Higgins last year, scored 8.1, 21.2, 14.9. not good 39.1, 41.7 fantasy points
Starting point is 00:56:21 and six point per passing touchdown. And the 41.7 was Baltimore. Yeah. He only threw for more than 258 yards
Starting point is 00:56:27 in one of those five games. Against Baltimore, he threw 56 passes. So I think, okay, as we look at this game, we talked about Burrow, we didn't really get
Starting point is 00:56:36 too much into Lamar, but he's basically ranked. Jamie's got him fifth, and you have a 16th. Dave's lower on him, has him 11th. So I get it. It's,
Starting point is 00:56:46 tough but it is it is the bangles they are really bad against quarterbacks and it's lamar jackson like we've seen stretches from lamar jackson where the touchdowns aren't there it's not quite just normal lamar jackson because he's also banged up but the guy could score 30 at any moment it's also lamar in prime time and if you recall the start of this stretch when he came back from the hamstring injury was against miami in a primetime game yes it was derrick henry is an easy start start him I'll come back let's talk about
Starting point is 00:57:17 Chase Brown actually we'll talk about him now any concerns with Samajé Pryne if Pryne plays you guys have Brown as a must start
Starting point is 00:57:24 right now what do you think any concerns Heath just the time like not enough to where it's really going to change my ranking because he's been
Starting point is 00:57:32 so good lately but yeah the tiniest bit he's not an RB1 like he was last week and the week before but he's an RB2 I think it's really tough with Chase Brown
Starting point is 00:57:46 and E.T.N. Gentie, Trayvion, Harvey, like that group. But that's the group that he's in. You're probably starting all those guys. I started Chase Brown as running back eight. Started the week with him at Running Back 8. When the P.R. News came out, I dropped in like 14. Oh. You just hope that he's playing so well right now that they go back to that every down
Starting point is 00:58:07 rule, basically. He was playing 90% of the snaps because he is on fire. I mean, he's played Green Bay. Pittsburgh twice, a banged-up New England team, the Jets and the Bears in the last six games. And he's been 4.7 yards per carrier better in five of his last six games. He is crushing it. I actually think their offensive line is playing pretty well. And he's got some involvement in the passing game. Of course, that was with Flacco.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Well, now Burroughs back. I mean, you got to expect just better offense. The only thing that kind of worries me a little bit is Somagetip Ryan was crushing it before he got hurt. like the game before he got hurt he had nine carries for 94 yards so they may not think there's a big drop off but i i think i think jays is still a good start all right start jemar chase and then yoshevas sounds like james excited about yoshevus heath how are you feeling about yoshevus i think he is also a wide receiver three that you should have very little faith in the floor but be pretty excited about the potential upside um he's maybe i'm thinking i'm probably five or six spot slower on than Jamie is, but there's good potential here. We just, I don't think we know for sure if it'll be him or Mike Gaseki is kind of the number two option. According to the rankings, I'm sorry, but Sue Mafia is just making me laugh.
Starting point is 00:59:27 According to the rankings I'm looking at right now, you are 13 spots lower on Yoshivas. Jamie has him 26 and you have him 39th. Okay. Um, Sue Bafia says, second time Adam made me feel like a putts. First, calling me out on the one spending the most fab on Tess Johnson in the FFT Open. Now getting me to vote, yes, it is not a building, then going back on it. And then right afterwards. So thankful for that, Adam, L.O.L. Yeah, happy Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Love it. Okay. I just look at Yosevis. He's gotten three games this season with seven targets. He's averaging 13 PPR points in those games. I'm going to guess there's going to be 40 plus attempts for Joe Burrow in this game. And looking at the receiving court right now, I think he's going to be heavily involved. And first off, we haven't mentioned this at all. Last week, Mitchell Tinsley caught a touchdown. They like him a lot.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Okay. Desperation play if you're stuck. I would imagine that Adam is hairy enough that even if he went streaking, he would appear to be clothed. That's great. Not entirely untrue. So, um, Where were we? I wonder what Nando would say.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Who do you think is a better start relative to his position? Andre Yoshevis or Mike Gisicchi? Yoshavis. I'll say Yoshavis, but it's not far off. By the way, Mark Andrews is a slam dunk, right? Or not really. You guys have like ninth? Actually, oh, wait, Heath, you have, you have, you have Ateam.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I need to adjust him a little bit for the Bingles. The Bingles bump. I'll probably have him 15. Wow, and Jamie, you have Andrew's 10th. So that's behind Strange, Schultz, Gadsden for Andrews, head of Otten, head of Ferguson. They make guys look like Hall of Famers. They sure do. I wish I could just start Baltimore's hide-end.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Yeah. So how do you feel about Zay Flowers this game, guys? Number three wide receiver. Number three wide receiver. Man, if we get a shootout, right? because it's a 51.5 point total. If Lamar Jackson throws 33 times or something like that, then we're going to have a good game for Zay Flowers.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Yeah, but you can get the shootout for the Ravens, and it could be two Derek Henry touchdowns and two tight-end touchdowns and maybe Lamar Jackson running touchdown. Like, it doesn't have to be Zayflowers, unfortunately, which sucks. So how would you rank Flowers, Yoshevas, James and Williams? Flowers, James and Yoshavis. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Jamie would go Yosefis over Jameson Williams, and Heath would do the opposite. All right, hopefully, Rashad Bateman plays. It's probably a smart thing to do, but I'm just excited for this game. And the Ravens DST is a tough one to drop. I did drop them in a couple of leagues. They've been so good, but it's been at Miami, at Minnesota, at Cleveland, and the Jets. This will be a different matchup for them.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Let's see if I have any chat questions for this game. Burrow or Darnold? Burrow. Burrow. Harvey or Chase Brown? Brown. I have Brown one spot higher for the moment. Burrow, Dart, or Brissette?
Starting point is 01:02:47 Berset. Yeah, but. I'm just saying that at the start of the season. Yeah. Burrow or Mahomes in 4-point, that's going to be Mahomes. Yeah. Burrow or Drake May. May.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yoshevis, Brian Thomas, Jr. or Troy Franklin? One might not play. I think Franklin's got more upside than Yoshava, so I'd play Franklin. Franklin, okay. All right, last game. Chicago's at Philadelphia. It's that of the game that you can't do anything with. I figured out the A.J. Brown thing.
Starting point is 01:03:20 When is the A.J. Brown good? He is good when Jalen Hertz has a good passing game. And that is it. Jalen Hertz has either 280 or more passing yards and or three touchdown passes in five games. And Brown has been good in four of them, and those are pretty much his only good games. And he's been great when Hertz has a good passing game.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Unfortunately, I can't tell you when that's going to happen. But encouraging stuff last week. Are you guys feeling that the Eagles offense, Jamie, can carry that momentum into this game. At least their passing offense against the Bears? Momentum is a strange word when they didn't score after the first quarter. But yes, I think you're starting Jalen Hertz, mostly because if he's not doing it with his arm in this game, he's probably going to get some rushing opportunities, if not the touch push, because of what the linebacking core looks like for the Bears.
Starting point is 01:04:13 So, you know, as Heath alluded to earlier in the show, like, receiver sucks this week. And AJ Brown coming off the game that he just had and Devante Smith and really the season that he's had, you know, quietly as a, you know, number two, high-end number three receiver, but still upside. Like, I'm starting both those guys. So I think in the case of Hertz, I know the Bears secondary may be getting healthy. I don't have to check the injury port, but I don't know how you can get away from what his upside still is on a week-to-week basis.
Starting point is 01:04:44 And in the case of the receivers, like you said, whenever he's been good, one of them has typically been good with him. Makes sense. Yeah, I think Eagles are like other than God, it's just start them all. Are we still at that? This should be a Sequin-Barkley game. It really, really should. You know, coming off a loss where they didn't give him a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:06 of work. It's a short week, so he should have an opportunity to beat up on a defense that is really banged up right now. And so it's just shocking how bad they run the ball for how good they used to be. Yeah. I forget who it was, and I apologize for not crediting him. Somebody was showing in one of the clips on Twitter. They have him running to the weak side when they have an overloaded offensive line. Like, it makes no sense. Well, also, I mean, in Barclay's defense, he's had a lot of tough matchups this year. He's faced a lot of... I'm not even talking about that.
Starting point is 01:05:41 It's just what their concepts are. I think that's been true of the whole offense. They're going to have a new offensive coordinator. I mean, it's just no... I'm just surprised that Siriani hasn't made that move already, like to take over play calling. Yeah. But I mean, okay, in my opinion,
Starting point is 01:05:58 Saquan Barclays had three, maybe four good matchups this year. Two games against the Cowboys, and I think you could argue that only one of them was a good matchup. Yep. And two games against the Giants. So the first game against the Cowboys back in week one, 18 carries for 60 yards in a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Yikes. Two games against the Giants, he was great. 12 for 58. I mean, he didn't have a lot of touches in one of the games, but 12 carries for 58 yards. The other game, 14 carries for 150 yards. The only game all year where he's had a run longer than I think 18 yards. This is the next good matchup that he's had.
Starting point is 01:06:32 The Bears absolutely suck against running backs. they've been really horrible and I actually would argue they weren't that bad last week other than that 50-something yard run by Gainwell on the kind of trick play but they are a good matchup so hopefully this happens
Starting point is 01:06:49 we've talked about hopefully he has a good game we've talked about Trayvion Henderson and RJ Harvey and Chase Brown are they ahead of Segoin Barkley no because of the matchup because of the matchup okay
Starting point is 01:07:02 that was my next question Based on play, clearly those guys are doing better things in the case of something. Like Harvey, no, yet, but Harvey not yet, but, like, Berkeley's just been bad. Like, this was the fear. And you guys have A.J. Brown in the top 16. You have Devante Smith similarly ranked. They're both in the top 20. And I do think the bears are going to get two cornerbacks back.
Starting point is 01:07:27 But they're 21st against wide receivers. So let's go. Let's come on. Let's get it done. You guys love Jalen Hertz. Dallas Goddard is a sit. You both have them 19th. It's now five games in a row where Jalen Hertz has not had a pass attempt inside the five-yard line.
Starting point is 01:07:42 That's where Dallas got it was making his hay. On the other side of the ball, which bears, Heath, are we confident starting at the Eagles? Zero, not one. But four defensive players got hurt for the Eagles last week. One of them, they're starting safety. Andrew McCuba is out for the year, I believe. He's out. I don't know about the others.
Starting point is 01:08:03 I think what Dory Jackson is in the concussion protocol, was it? I don't remember, but he hasn't been that good anyway. But does that factor in, you know, can the Bears? I'm not saying, I'm not calling the Bears all sits. I think the running backs are sits. Romo Dunzee is a start in a three-wide receiver league and maybe a tough decision in a two-wide receiver league. DJ Moore and Luther Berden are both kind of boom-bust flexes,
Starting point is 01:08:31 but I don't want to be starting them. and I'd rather start Colston Loveland than Dallas Gotter. He's definitely in that borderline tied-in one discussion. It just hasn't been, his role hasn't been consistent enough. And I didn't like that even though he was good last week, the snap share went down to 64%. So there's not a guy that I have ranked.
Starting point is 01:08:51 There's not a must-start bear for sure. There's a few borderline starts. Why are you saying that the bear's running backs are easy sits? But we don't have confidence in which one is going to get the most touches. I don't think they're going to run effectively against the Eagles. Yeah. Okay. Caleb Williams, by the way, has three running back targets in his last two games.
Starting point is 01:09:19 He had 15 combined in the two games before that. So you just never know where that ball is going with Caleb. Would you start Burrow and Lamar over Caleb Williams? Yes. Yep. Would you start DART over Caleb Williams? Yep, yes. Would you start Trevor Lawrence over Caleb Williams?
Starting point is 01:09:36 No. They're back to back for me. Okay. I got some questions in the chat here for this game. Let me find them. Sit one, Roma Dunzei, Sequan Barclay, Rico Dowdell. Rome. Luther Burden or Chris Godwin?
Starting point is 01:09:58 Man. if this is the best you have for this week with Godwin with Bridgewater and Burden in this matchup, I would go look through the waiver wire and I drop burden. I would start burden over Godwin. Like go find Mechie, go find Yoshavos, go find D.K., go find any of those guys are in better situations.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Yeah. Cortland Sutton, Romo Dunzee, or Parker, Washington, PPR. I take the chance on Sutton in the matchup, but if not, you can go wrong. Yeah, I'd give a sudden. Nico Collins or A.J. Brown. Nico. I have A.J. a couple spots higher.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Cortland or Colson Loveland or Harold Fanon or Brenton Strange. Strange. Loveland would be third out of that group for me. I'm not quite ready to give up on Harold Fanon yet, but yeah, I'd be either of the other two guys. Okay. By the way, last thing here for the Eagles wide receivers is that we like A.J. Brown against man coverage. Dave's been all over that. Although I think he did pretty well against both types of coverage last week. But the bears, I believe, are one of the most man-heavy teams. I'm trying to find that. Yes, they are a very man-heavy team. So that's good for A.J. Brown. Come on. Keep it going, A.J. Brown. He looked great. He looked great in this last game. But the Cowboys really played some pretty bad defense. I mean, they were just going. I don't know how. How you as a Giants fan and a Hurricanes fan can be encouraged or so excited about A.J. Brown.
Starting point is 01:11:38 What does this have to do with the Hurricanes? His touchdown celebration was mocking Michael Irvin. It was? Yeah, the revving the... Oh, I didn't know that. I think it was mocking the Cowboys. I'm fine with that. No, he's mocking Michael Irvin. Yeah, but the cowboy version of Michael Irvin.
Starting point is 01:11:56 You probably grew up a big Michael Irvin. Irvin Hurricanes fan. I did when I fit in that shirt that you know where. Yeah, it was way before my time. All right, some questions to finish the show. Sit one carb. Mashed potatoes, stuffing, or sweet potato casserole?
Starting point is 01:12:12 Stuffing. Oh, this is so tough. You know me. I'll sit the sweet potato casserole. The thing is... Especially if you put marshmallows on it. Oh, you've got to have the marshmallows. No.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I think I like both mashed potatoes. and sweet potato casserole better than stuffing. But I don't think I want both of them. This is a little redundant. So in that case, I'll sit mashed potatoes. Green bean casserole, two question marks. That's the whole question. Green bean casserole rule?
Starting point is 01:12:45 That's your favorite, right? No, corn suflay is my favorite, but I do like... Cornsafla is your favorite. King Greenwichel is great. I will have zero green bean casserole. Cornsuffalo has to make you shittaki mushrooms. No, why would it? Probably ever again in my life.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Pumpkin roll or pumpkin pie? Pumpkin pie. I would rather just have like a can of green beans. We'll put them in a bowl and microwave them. Yeah, the thing is, Heath, you can make green bean cassero in so many different ways that I think I could find a good version of it for you. Yeah. If we're calling it a casserole because we just cook bacon and mix it in with the green beans and that's the casserole, then I'd be okay with it. No, I mean, you put the green bean.
Starting point is 01:13:26 You get like some mushroom soup in there. You get crispy fried onions on top. You put some cheese on there. No. All right. Did you make your corn suflay yet? No, it's so easy to make. We'll make it tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Green bean casserole or broccoli cheese casserole. It's Thanksgiving. Yeah, these are Thanksgiving meals. Why would I eat these things on Thanksgiving? Because everybody eats creamy cassero. Give me mashed potatoes. Give me stuffing. Put gravy over all of it.
Starting point is 01:13:54 A little bit of home. homemade cranberries on the side and some pumpkin pie and some pecan pie. It's Thanksgiving. Cranberry sauce, yay or day? Yes, but cranberry sauce, preferably, in my opinion, not just dump the can out. Turkey or ham? It's the best avatar. It's turkey or ham. Turkey.
Starting point is 01:14:22 I will eat both, but on Thanksgiving, it's turkey. It's ham. and this is here Eric or Eric says Heath continues with takes that live inside my head you guys are
Starting point is 01:14:33 yeah you guys are sympathico what do we learn today we learn that you still think die hard is not a Christian movie
Starting point is 01:14:39 moron you think that a stadium is not a building moron I used to think that and you'd rather have green bean
Starting point is 01:14:47 casserole and mashed potatoes I I don't know if I said that I don't know. Hold on. I don't know if we've ever done the three of us, two shows in one day. This is going to be fun. Because like, now you got Heathall riled up and now you got to deal with him in night when he's cranky. Oh, yeah. I'll tell you what I do, man. Two shows at the same time. All right. We'll be back at 9 p.m. Start or sit for the AFC home games. There are very few NFC home games this week, by the way.
Starting point is 01:15:16 So we'll be borrowing from the AFC. We'll talk to you then. Thanks, everybody. Paramount Podcasts.

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