Fantasy Football Today - League Winners in Every Round! (08/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 24, 2021

Bid on our Draft-A-Thon items right now to benefit St. Jude! http://cbssports.com/ebay Follow the latest ADP: https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/draft/averages/ First you'll hear the story of ...Jamey's harrowing encounter with a spider! Then we'll give you your news and notes and the big upside plays in each round beginning with Round 3 (10:30). Does J.K. Dobbins have that league-winning upside? Does Allen Robinson? What is David Montgomery's potential (14:25) and should he be drafted in Round 2? In Round 4 (19:40) we've got CeeDee Lamb and a couple of other potential stud WRs, but do we see any of the RBs as league winners? ... Round 5 (24:45) is another strong WR round and Tyler Lockett could win you your league. But so could Kyle Pitts and Mark Andrews! Then we get to Round 6 (33:00) which is perhaps the most interesting round of the draft. It's loaded with talent but maybe short on opportunity, which reminds us that league winners don't necessarily have to be great in Week 1. We talk Steelers and Bengals WRs among others ... On to Round 7 (42:00) which is where you may draft Michael Thomas or Jerry Jeudy, Round 8 (46:40) with Jalen Hurts and his immense upside and then the rest of the league winners you need to know in the later rounds (51:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. I'll tell you what, that was a spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play. Off to the races. Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. What's up, everybody?
Starting point is 00:00:26 Welcome to the show. We talk a lot about upside. Today, we're going to give you league winners in every round. And I'll give you a winner right now, the Sonos Arc. Today's episode is sponsored by Sonos Arc, the premium smart soundbar for TV, movies, music, gaming, and more. Stay tuned for additional details about Sonos Arc later in today's show. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg. Jamie, have you seen the movie Arachnophobia lately?
Starting point is 00:00:53 Not lately, but it is a great movie. He lived it during the show today. You know, I was watching this video that Jamie tweeted. He said, a visitor was on our CBS Sports HQ set, and you're looking down at your... And I had no audio at the time. you're looking down at your, and I had no audio at the time. You're looking down at your ankles, Dave's looking. I was like, did he bring his kid to the show? Like his kids running on set or something? Tell us what happened. It was pretty
Starting point is 00:01:15 funny. So the show started, we're probably about like, I don't know, two minutes in. And as you see the video here, if you're watching on YouTube, and again, like you said, Adam, I tweeted it out. Uh, so I, I look and the way you see where I'm sitting. So I have to look to my right at the camera, both cameras that we use, uh, at least that I use are to my right. And so I looked down to my right, like right on the edge of the desk is a spider. And it was a big spider. It wasn't like a little tiny thing. It was big, like oranges, orange ish kind of spider. I'd never seen something like that before. And, uh, so I kind of like nudged it with, uh, the papers that are on desk, hoping that it would just, you know, crawl away. Well, it didn't, it crawled around the side of the desk and like right into my lap essentially.
Starting point is 00:01:58 And, um, not, it didn't get on me, but it was like on the edge of the desk. You see, the desk is kind of circular. So like, i'm trying to obviously maintain being a professional and and i was hoping what actually what happened is that i can get them the topic and they usually go off off me on on on the show and dave or heath are talking dave or heath are talking and uh it just goes like right in front of my belly button you know so at that point i was like i i couldn't, I couldn't avoid it, you know? So thankfully Dave and Heath are able to handle themselves with talking about Cam Newton. I was ready to jump into action and smash that thing with my fist.
Starting point is 00:02:36 So no, the unfortunate thing was we were supposed to talk about, so Cam, we recorded that, recorded that that show was airing live on uh monday uh cam has the the covid situation we were supposed to talk about that at the at that time i as you hear me say at the end of the clip uh cam's in the middle of a strange situation um then i have the producer telling me yeah you never brought up cam well that was the reason why jamie was in a strange situation strange situation yeah yeah no davey did you ever did you clean up the mess or is the spider still here uh there's
Starting point is 00:03:11 still spider guts all over the floor oh man all right well hopefully that doesn't happen again it was very funny video and uh the has this is a hazardous job people don't don't be fooled okay i sent to a bunch of buddies and they're they're killing me for it all right before we get into uh the league winners in every round let's go through the news and notes quickly here you can tell me if i'm missing anything uh carson wentz not only is carson wentz back at practice but also either today or this week two starting offensive linemen for the colts quentin nelson the all pro ryan kelly another great player on the interior there, the center.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Expected back this week. So good injury news for the Colts. There's literally something like... There's something on the ground there for sure. It's a war zone underneath Jamie's desk. Oh, that still? Green Bay pass rusher Zedaria Smith may miss week one with a back injury.
Starting point is 00:04:02 See, I live now in a very buggy area. So we like the Spiders because they get the bugs. may miss week one with a back injury. See, I live now in a very buggy area, so we like the spiders because they get the bugs. So I'm pro-spider now. Like, little ones. I don't know about the one that tormented Jamie today. I mean, it wasn't like, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:16 a giant tarantula, but it wasn't the run-of-the-mill typical little baby spider. For the record, I don't think Heath or I saw this. I know I didn't see the spider so what i'm hoping is actually um so we had a photographer in the studio uh doing some promo shoots for uh our amazon channel i guess i don't know exactly what it is um and he was he was
Starting point is 00:04:38 recording laughing his his behind off as uh as i'm squirming around because he could see me the entire time like and he saw the spider so I hope he has it on camera. Okay, I hope so too, for your sake. This is what ESPN's Jordan Renan, Giants beat writer, wrote about Devante Booker. Only relevant if you're looking to handcuff Saquon Barkley. Booker, he's going to be the top option on all three downs if Barkley gets injured at any point
Starting point is 00:05:00 or isn't ready for the start of the season or even when he's limited early in the season so if you're going zero rb nobody's really drafting davante booker a few people i would say he might he might be a week one starter against the broncos we hope not but maybe he is more of a true handcuff uh than than at least i thought uh what i read yesterday was that um if barkley is not there, Booker will be the first and second down guy. Corey Clement will be the passing down guy. And it will be a shared situation.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Really? Yeah. Corey Clement is the passing. That's interesting. But okay. Different views there. There's talk that Saquon's going to practice. They've got this joint practice this week.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yeah, he's going to be fine. Stop being Debbie Downer, Adam. No, it was more of a handcuff item, you know, because I had my doubts about whether Booker would really be a good handcuff anyway if Barkley got hurt. Cam Newton will miss three days of practice due to a, at least three days, I think,
Starting point is 00:05:55 due to a mistake with the COVID protocols. Bill Belichick also did not rule out using both quarterbacks in a platoon, which would be weird. Hunter Henry, still not fully healthy. He's kind of practicing. John,
Starting point is 00:06:09 who Smith returned to practice today. How about this report from the athletic that Jamar chase could lose snaps to audit and Tate in the regular season. Unbelievable. Jamie, this one's all you, man. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:21 you know, Jamar chase is somebody that you gotta be a little bit concerned about where he was going. And mean you know jamar chase is uh somebody that you got to be a little bit concerned about where he was going and you know when you're looking at him by comparison to t higgins and even tyler boyd and ppr uh you can make a case that one is better than the next you know depending on who you ask and what the argument is i was already you know getting close to moving t higgins over uh chase sports lines projections already have higgins over chase. So it's kind of easy to, you know, look at it from the short term versus the longterm, you know, the short term Higgins may have better start longterm.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Hopefully chase is better, but it may take him some time to catch up to speed after not playing football since 2019. And so this isn't a runaway from Jamar chase. This is a stupid story. You know, if, if it unfolds and if you're the bangles, how dumb could you possibly be if you passed on Penesol to draft Jamar Chase and he's maybe this bad. Uh, but I don't think he's going to be this bad. I think he's going to be a superstar still. And you should be trying to acquire Jamar Chase and trade. If people are panicking over him, uh, he's still around five pick, five pick, but again, Higgins has
Starting point is 00:07:26 a chance to be the better receiver already. Okay, Julio Jones and A.J. Brown. Let's talk about them. Julio Jones not practicing. A.J. Brown expected to be ready for week one. I think he's warming up and then going into the locker room, something like that. But Dave, you mentioned actually on Fantasy Football Today in five that Julio
Starting point is 00:07:41 Jones is a bit of a rankings follower for you just because he's not on the field.'t practiced in august uh maybe he practiced on august first i i don't have that specifically but really he hasn't practiced in a while we know what his upside is and we remember his downside when he's just not on the field you can't start him he sits on your bench he's a pretty little ornament it's annoying and this is the time of year where he needs to really be developing that chemistry and that timing with ryan tanhill it's annoying and this is the time of year where he needs to really be developing that chemistry and that timing with ryan tanhill it's not happening and so i i said on our show today on on the live show at noon that i wouldn't take him until round four and then i was told his
Starting point is 00:08:15 adp is round five so if you can get him in round five i think you're not risking a whole lot you should have four better players on your team i'm okay if it's late round four on Julio Jones. We know exactly what the upside is. I don't think he's going to get the same type of coverage in Tennessee that he got in Atlanta. And I think when he's healthy, he's just as good of a football player now as he was as recently as last year. Okay, and then we'll finish up the news and notes with...
Starting point is 00:08:43 If he's in round five, that's a league winner in round five. Clyde Edwards-Elair doing well, according to Andy Reid. And Jets with another bad injury on defense. Already Carl Lawson out for the year, and now linebacker Jared Davis out about two months with an ankle injury. Disappointing. You should draft Christian McCaffrey.
Starting point is 00:09:02 He plays the Jets in week one. Okay, so now it is time for our Sonos segment. disappointing. You should draft Christian McCaffrey. He plays the Jets in week one. Okay. So now it is time for our Sonos segment. We are raising the bar, looking at players who have the potential to raise their game to the next level. This is presented by Sonos and these are league winners in every round. We are going to skip the first two rounds.
Starting point is 00:09:19 We're going to use average draft position on CBS and start with pick 25. We're going to do 12-team league, 25 to 36 here. Before you give me your player who could raise their game to the next level, I'm going to give you this little statistic here. And the reason for this is there are a lot more running backs
Starting point is 00:09:41 that go in the first two rounds than wide receivers. So when you compare running backs and receivers, you are deeper into the running back pool than the wide receiver pool. Having said that, and I gave this on the running back preview, but I'll say it again. Over the last two seasons,
Starting point is 00:09:54 there have been five running backs drafted in rounds three or four that finished in the top 16 at their position. Only five in rounds three and four that finished top 16. All of those running backs happened to finish top 12, but they were the only five who finished top 16. Whereas at wide receiver, there were 17 wide receivers drafted in rounds three and four that finished in the top 16 at their position, and 11 of them finished top 12. So you will likely get better value at wide
Starting point is 00:10:22 receiver than running back in rounds three and four. But as I mentioned, that's largely because a lot more running backs are already off the board. Okay, here we go. Round three is Jefferson, Waller, AJ Brown. Don't even say that they could be league winners. They obviously can be league winners. I'm going to make it a little harder on you guys. J.K. Dobbins, Keenan Allen, DeAndre Swift, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, David Montgomery,
Starting point is 00:10:52 Chris Carson, Aaron Rodgers, and Allen Robinson. So, again, presented by Sonos, raising the bar, who could take their game to the next level? If we don't count Jefferson Wallerer, and A.J. Brown,
Starting point is 00:11:09 we're looking at Dobbins, Keenan Allen, and Swift, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, David Montgomery, Chris Carson, Aaron Rodgers, and Allen Robinson. Dave, you got a league winner in there? I'm really tempted to say Dobbins. And I know that this is coming off of a game where Gus Edwards in the preseason had more touches than Dobbins, but I love the talent, and I know that the opportunity coming off of a game where Gus Edwards in the preseason had more touches than Dobbins but I love the talent and I know that the opportunity is something at the beginning of the year that doesn't seem like it almost seems unfair that he might be in like a
Starting point is 00:11:34 55-45 split with Edwards and that Lamar Jackson is going to cut in there as well because he gets a lot of rushing but they've talked him up all summer. They have mentioned, well, maybe we get them involved in the passing game. Maybe they do the right thing here, especially with the receiving core so beat up and they lean on their ground game and they lean on Dobbins because he's the better of the two. I know that Edwards is good. I'm not saying he's not, but he's somebody who I think could end up taking that step this year. They were already trending in that direction because he was getting short yardage goal line work toward the end of last season. He was five for five on goal to go carries from five yards or closer. I think Gus had one such carry something like the last half of the
Starting point is 00:12:13 season. So I know he's a little touchdown dependent. I know that you can't quite see the receptions being there for him because he didn't do it last year. I'm not saying that you can guarantee, I'm not guaranteeing that that's going to happen, but I think as far as running backs in this range that have the chance to get you close to 1500 total yards and 10 touchdowns, I think he's got it in him. It's just a matter of him getting that opportunity too. And I think that if the Ravens are smart and they usually are, they will find a way to get him the football a little bit more than they did last year. Jamie, a league winner in round three. I mean, any of the receivers, you know, you just look at what they're going to do clearly quarterbacks as well, but, um, you know, Keenan Allen and Allen Robinson, you know, what they're
Starting point is 00:12:54 capable of doing in PPR, you know, their, their a hundred catch potential, uh, if the touchdowns can rise for both of them. And I, I think it certainly can for Robinson, uh, for Allen is probably a little tricky just because, you just because it's been so many years of exceptional target share and just not being a huge touchdown producer. But both guys are just amazing. So both have top five potential at their position. Maybe a better question is,
Starting point is 00:13:23 who is not a league winner in this round? Obviously, Jefferson. All the running backs, because you know what their flaws are. But you don't think Dobbins... The only running backs are Dobbins, Swift, David Montgomery, and Chris Carson. Yeah, I mean, look. Montgomery
Starting point is 00:13:39 was a league winner last year, so it's hard to say that he can't do it again. Dave gave you the reason for Dobbins doing it, and it probably is more so a gus edwards injury that's going to help him get to that level if that's going to be the case swift you saw the upside for him as well in his rookie season you know with the uh famous six game stretch and if there's no jamal williams for any extended period of time and he takes that step forward then he could certainly be in that category also carson's probably the tougher one to get there because if they're going to go away from the run, as much as he may be a
Starting point is 00:14:08 little bit more of a factor in the passing game, I just don't see him being a league-winning type of running back. He's, as we've said time and time again, he's the type of player that you settle for in this range. He's still very good, but he's not somebody I think that you're looking at and saying this is my lead running back to carry my fantasy team
Starting point is 00:14:23 unless you go 0RB to whatever extent you're going. Do you think that David Montgomery has huge upside? And look, the guy, he finished as a top five running back last year. It was really on the strength of his last six games. But do you think he has the potential to be really awesome from start to finish? I'm really excited about what I saw from Justin Fields. And I think if Fields plays the majority of the games for Chicago this year, it'll benefit both bears in this range.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Montgomery should see heightened efficiency with Fields there because Fields threatens to run the ball. And Robinson will see better targets from Fields, who was throwing well on the run, in the fields who was making play. He was throwing well on the run in the pocket. Um, just very savvy. He doesn't seem like a rookie at all. Like you watch Trey Lance play and you kind of get the feeling, all right, this is Trey Lance's rookie year. He's making rookie mistakes. He's a little off target. I think fields, there were a couple of throws that fields made in the second preseason game that were bad,
Starting point is 00:15:22 but he looks like a guy that's been in the league for three years already. So I think he would absolutely help both. I look at the other running backs in Chicago. Damian Williams took a step backward last week. He fumbled. We don't know when Tariq Cohen's coming back. There's no timetable for him to come back. There is a real opportunity for David Montgomery to play 70 plus percent of
Starting point is 00:15:41 the snaps immediately. I wish the offensive line was a little bit better and i wish they were starting justin fields in week one but i think that he absolutely has a chance to to rise up there and as i've said before i'm comfortable taking him in late round two at this point if i really want a running back and there's a running back run in round two and the best available guy is him i'm taking him in late round two i'd prefer around three of course i prefer around eight but i'm not going to find him in round eight. I think his ADP at 37 is perfect because
Starting point is 00:16:07 as Dave said, we don't know when Tariq Cohen's coming back. Unless Tariq Cohen's out for the season, he's going to have some semblance of a role. There will be probably the chance for Damian Williams to have some semblance of a role. Montgomery can get off to a great start. He's going to be their lead running back. This isn't Tariq
Starting point is 00:16:23 Cohen is going to take David Montgomery off the field for significant stretches anymore. He's clearly going to get the opportunity, I think, for 300 total touches. I don't know if it'll be 300 total carries, but 300 total touches. He's fantastic. But I think, again, if you're drafting him in round two, you're drafting him with the hope that Tariq Cohen is going away forever because that's what we saw last year to return value on that.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Tariq Cohen is not going away forever as of now. So you have to keep that in mind. So this is David Montgomery we're talking about here. Also, you know, I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that he's not a fast guy. He's a good tackle breaker, but doesn't have a high end speed. Well, apparently he's gotten faster is something that he's worked on. And I guess that could happen. I don't know if he's going to be a blazer, but that's important.
Starting point is 00:17:05 If he lost weight, it could happen. Yeah, and so hopefully he can have a little bit more breakaway potential. Convince me that we shouldn't be taking Montgomery ahead of every year two running back except for Jonathan Taylor. You know, I mean, at this point, are you still taking Clyde Edwards,
Starting point is 00:17:24 Zlair, Swift? Are you taking Dobbins? And I know you're going Clyde Edwards, Zlair, Swift are you taking Dobbins and I mean no you're going to take Gibson ahead of him but I guess why why should I understand Taylor but why should Montgomery not go ahead of every other year two running back I would I would just expect that Gibson has just as much touchdown potential should be more involved in the passing game again with Tariq Cohen at some point coming back and I just think he's got a little bit more upside personally Montgomery really benefited from the schedule last year his offensive line got you know slightly downgraded Gibson's offensive line got better Edward Soler is is the obvious talking point in comparing these two and I think David and I probably differ on this, is that I would buy into the Chiefs' offense. I would buy into the Chiefs' offensive line. I would buy into Andy
Starting point is 00:18:10 Reid. All three of those factors are big for me in looking at what Edwards-Solaire should be able to do. And also competition. As much as I like Darrell Williams, I don't think he's a great game-breaker. I think Edwards-Solaire is a game-breaker. I don't think McKinnon is a guy that's going to take him off the field on rushing downs. He may take him off the field on passing downs, but then that's where Tariq Cohen comes in eventually for David Montgomery as well. As long as you tell me Edward Solaire's ankle is fine, I'll take him over
Starting point is 00:18:33 Montgomery. I think Gibson and Montgomery have similar touchdown potential. I think Gibson has a little bit more total yardage potential. I think he's got a little bit more reception potential. I think his offensive line is better. I think the has a little bit more total yardage potential. I think he's got a little bit more reception potential. And I think his offensive line is better. I think the defense in Washington is better than the defense in Chicago by a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And I think the schedule for Washington will end up favoring Gibson as well. So I think there will end up being more opportunity for Gibson to shine than there will be for Montgomery. But that's the only one. Those are the only two second-year running backs I have will be for Montgomery. Okay. But that's the only one. McKissick is going to... Those are the only two second-year running backs I have ranked ahead of Montgomery. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:07 McKissick is going to take Gibson off the field a little bit, too. But as we saw in this preseason game, week two, you don't need... Like, running backs can certainly catch passes on first and second down. Week one, too.
Starting point is 00:19:18 And they will use Gibson in the passing game. He's so good in space. But again, you know, again, Gibson, the ESPN reporter, they write a little blurb after each game saying, you know, he's had a couple of short yardage situations. He couldn't pick it up. And again, it just seems like he's kind of learning how to use his body as a running back.
Starting point is 00:19:36 All right, here we go into round four. And again, this is just CBS ADP. You know, obviously, in our leagues, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, we're not taking them in round three. But people are. So into round four, Terry in our leagues, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, we're not taking them in round three, but people are. So into round four, Terry McLaurin, 37th overall. Josh Jacobs, Justin Herbert, CeeDee Lamb, Robert Woods, Miles Sanders, Cooper Cup, Travis Etienne, Amari Cooper, Mike Evans,
Starting point is 00:20:03 Russell Wilson, and Daryl Henderson. So 12 names there are McLaurin, Jacobs, Herbert, Lamb, Woods, Miles Sanders, Cup, ETN, Amari Cooper, Mike Evans, Russell Wilson, and Daryl Henderson. Jamie, league winners? McLaurin for sure. Lamb, I believe so.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Woods, I think so. And that's probably aside from the quarterbacks okay so that would be lamb so not the running backs not jacobs sand mile sanders etn and no and not barring i feel like dramatic changes in what we're seeing right now i feel like those running backs are getting drafted because they were popular last year, and ETN was popular because he was a first-round pick. The only one that could is Henderson because of the offense he plays in and the role that he has now, but he's going to have to be much better than he was a year ago.
Starting point is 00:20:55 He's my favorite of this group by far. What about ETN? I don't think he can be a week one league winner, but the possibility that he just is better, he's just too good, and they have to start giving him rushing work. He just takes over. Yeah, that's what Pete Prisco said when he was in Jacksonville,
Starting point is 00:21:10 that he was hearing Etienne going to be more of a passing-downs guy to start the season and then eventually take over early in the season. It could certainly happen. They're not committed to James Robinson. There's no money tied to James Robinson. He was good last year for a different regime. So if you're a James Robinson guy, that should be your fear is that Travis ETN was a first round pick for a reason and is the more talented player. And that will shine through, but I don't think they're going to get rid of Robinson completely. I think they're going to
Starting point is 00:21:35 use him on rushing downs and then eventually ETN will eat into that as the season goes along. So, um, it's, it's, it's a risk reward with ETN. You know, ifN. If he lives up to what he showed you at Clemson, you're going to be thrilled to take him in this spot. You guys think ETN is more of a round five player? I think you could take him in late round four. Nah, never mind. Round five is right. I would prefer him in round
Starting point is 00:21:59 five in PPR. Actually, round six, a little closer to round six in non-PPR, but he's never going to get there. But should he go ahead of Kareem Hunt, Javante Williams, Michael Carter? Yep. All three. He should absolutely go ahead of the other rookies in PPR.
Starting point is 00:22:17 You can make a stronger argument for Williams in non-PPR, but I think, again, you're buying into what the Jaguars, you know, investment that they made and who he's competing with. You know, as much but I think, again, you're buying into what the Jaguars, you know, investment that they made and who he's competing with, you know, as much as I love James Robinson and what he did last year, he was undrafted for a reason and he took advantage of a pretty significant opportunity. Dave, any, any more league winners in this round or you, or shall we move on? Move on. Robert Woods is my favorite among the receivers. McLaurin is actually somebody I'm getting a little
Starting point is 00:22:45 nervous about because I think that Fitzpatrick is starting to like throwing to Logan Thomas a little bit more too I'm not saying that McLaurin's a bad player or anything like that he's he's got amazing footwork but I think Fitzpatrick might end up spreading it a little bit more around than we're accustomed to seeing from him he's got some pretty good weapons and we haven't seen him yet with Curtis Samuel on the field so So, embarrassment of riches in that passing game for Washington that they might not even necessarily need to lean on because their run
Starting point is 00:23:12 game can be good, their defense will be good, positive game script, etc., etc. Woods versus Lamb. Dave, you said it's Woods. Jamie, how about you? It's getting close. It really is getting close. I think Woods is in a little bit of a better spot because of his rushing,
Starting point is 00:23:27 but they're back-to-back for me, 12 and 13 in my ranking. Yeah. Oh, man. You guys have really convinced me on Robert Woods. That plus the Cam Akers injury. What's that? I coughed.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Oh. And I said, mm-hmm. Yeah, you really convinced me. It's so hard to take anything away from the Cowboys preseason games because Dak hasn't played. But, I mean, Michael Gallup is out there, and nobody's distinguished themselves.
Starting point is 00:23:53 They haven't played much. But I think I might go Woods over Lamb now. It just feels a little safer. Less upside, but safer. I don't know about less upside. I think Woods is locked into having a very, very good year. Yeah, Woods is good. There is less upside, but safer. I don't know about less upside. I think Woods is locked into having a very, very good year. Yeah, Woods is good. There is less upside, though, because if Lamb hits, he's going to be a monster.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Yeah, and you were talking about maybe the best defense in football versus maybe one of the five worst. I don't think... Yeah, and you saw how much they'll throw the ball last year. They have no shame in doing that. Even two years ago, Dak threw almost 40 times per game. So, years ago, Dak threw almost 40 times per game.
Starting point is 00:24:26 So, you know, if he throws 40 times per game, I don't know if Lamb can get a 25% target share. Watch what happens in L.A. Nine per game? Watch what happens in L.A. the first time Daryl Henderson makes a big mistake. Then you'll see a team throw it 40 times a game. I don't... Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:42 All right, let's go to round three. Around five. It is interesting, though, that Lamb has passed Woods in ADP. Is that... Yeah, they are back-to-back. Yeah. Okay, round five after Daryl Henderson.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Julio Jones, Mike Davis, Dak Prescott, Adam Thielen, Tyler Lockett, Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, tom brady miles gaskin chris godwin dj moore and kareem hunt this is round five in cbs adp julio mike davis dac prescott feeling lockett pitts andrews brady gaskin godwin d DJ Moore, Kareem Hunt. You know what? Hearing those names makes me want to trade out of round four, get two picks in round five, and another pick later on.
Starting point is 00:25:34 I love a lot of names on this list. I already talked about Julio Jones and that if he's right, you're getting a round three type of player in round five. I think that that's outstanding. I think Lockett's got good upside again. He had 100 catches last year. Should be in line to have that type of workload again this year with the way that Seattle figures to throw the ball quickly. I loved watching Kyle Pitts in practice against the Dolphins. He was getting open against man coverage easily. They were bracketing him at one point, which is a sign of massive respect. He was getting a ton of end zone targets from Matt Ryan. I think he's absolutely worth a pick in this round five range. Andrews, I like
Starting point is 00:26:10 better than Pitts because we've got a track record of him. I think he's great. Jamie will tell you all about Myles Gaskin. I'll agree with him on Gaskin and DJ Moore right now. I bet he sinks a little bit just because we haven't heard a lot of good things about him but in a ppr league i think he can rebound and be worth a late five slash early six round pick very easily okay so you like this round i do too and i think i think there's good things about mike davis that i didn't really even think about until i went to that falcons but you know we haven't seen the falcons starters in a preseason game so i I feel like I got a sneak preview of this offense. And I think there's a really good chance that David ends up being more of a feature back for the Falcons than we might have initially believed.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Do we not think he's going to be a feature back? There was talk that he'd split a little bit. And then when you think about Mike Davis last year, he got off to such a great start with Carolina. And then after those first three games, you saw his carries per game go down. You saw his targets go down. He's 28 years old.
Starting point is 00:27:11 But he was working almost exclusively. In fact, I can't guarantee that he took every first-team rep in practice with the Falcons, but he took a hell of a lot of them, including the two-minute drill. And he's best suited at the goalie line compared to all the other guys that they have. So there's reasons to like him, too. Who isn't a league winner in this round, then?
Starting point is 00:27:32 Thielen. Thielen. Jamie, I mean, do you kind of see it the same way? I don't think Julio's a league winner anymore just because A.J. Brown, I think, would have to go away and they would have to dramatically change their offense. He's a great pick in round five, but I don't think he's a league winner in round five. The two that stand out to me, I guess the three that stand out to me,
Starting point is 00:27:51 Lockett, because if he could, you know, carry the stretch of games where he's awesome to, you know, 10-plus performances like that, he's going to maybe shatter this ADP because you know what the highs are. Unfortunately, we know what the lows are. Myles Gaskin would be the other one. You know, if the stretch of games that we saw last year and the preseason game against the Falcons backups is any indication that he could just be a total superstar,
Starting point is 00:28:16 which is what I think we were hoping to see from him, you know, before the Malcolm Brown fiasco in the first preseason game scared some people. And then the other guy is Kareem Hunt because we know what that offense is if Nick Chubb goes away. So if Nick Chubb gets hurt, like we saw last year, missed four games, if that happens for the season, for whatever reason, nobody wants to see that. But Kareem Hunt is the biggest league winner in this round.
Starting point is 00:28:37 By far, it's not close, but it has to be an injury-related concern. Is he the biggest league loser if Nick Chubb plays 15 games this year? I don't know if I'd call him a league loser, but he would certainly be overvalued in this round because he's not going to play to the same level. We saw it at the end of the season after Chubb came back. He was very disappointing and frustrating. He still got his touches. And as Adam has noted, he did very well in the beginning part of the season when they were blowing teams out. And they probably have an opportunity to blow a few teams out. It's a good defense. It's a great offensive line. It's going to be a very good team overall.
Starting point is 00:29:06 So they'll have some fourth quarter opportunities, I think, for Kareem Hunt. But you don't want to bank on that. That's what the risk is in taking him in this spot. 60th overall. And, yeah, so just to clarify what I was saying about Kareem Hunt, first three games of the year before Nick Chubb's injury, they had one blowout win and one blowout loss. And he had a lot of his touches in garbage time in both weeks,
Starting point is 00:29:26 one and three. And then, yeah, down the stretch after Chubb came back, Hunt really just wasn't very good and not someone that you could really, I, I honestly think if they use him similarly to the way they used him last year,
Starting point is 00:29:41 I think he's one of the most overdrafted players at 60th overall. I drafted him once so far in probably, I don't know, 20 mock drafts and real drafts. And it was the flex league where we start to flex options. He was in round seven. Like it was just too hard to pass up at that point as the 30th running back off the board. Oh yeah. But that was just to me a value pick not necessarily somebody that i was like oh i have to have kareem hunt now again if nick chubb misses any stretch of time there is no doubt that kareem hunt as he said last year and i i know i agree with him he's top five at his position if nick chubb isn't there 32 of his ppr points last year came on touchdowns you get you gotta hope that he scores a ton of touchdowns again. It's also what he did in that four-game stretch. When Nick
Starting point is 00:30:28 Chubb was not there, he was amazing. Is that all it was for Chubb? I thought it was six games. No, it was four. Oh, okay. I probably counted. He had two with 18 PPR points and two below 10 PPR points. Wait, hold on. It was really five
Starting point is 00:30:43 games because the Dallas game. Week four is when Chubb got hurt. Yeah, so Chubb played. We didn't know that until the game started. Right, Chubb barely played in that game. Hunt had 11 carries, 71 yards, and two touchdowns. So five games without Chubb. He had three monster games and two duds.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I don't know if I'd call him a dud, but seven points and eight points in PPR, disappointing. Those are duds. Yeah. Okay. Those are duds. I don't know if I'd call them a dud, but seven points and eight points in PPR. Disappointing. Those are duds. So that's round five. And we will get into round six in just a moment. So if you happen to break
Starting point is 00:31:18 into my house at any point, you will probably hear music blasting on my Sonos Arc, and you will see one of my kids hanging on my shoulders, bouncing up and down. We're having the best time, and I tried it on my phone. We weren't in the family room where the Sonos is the other day, and it just wasn't as fun.
Starting point is 00:31:36 They weren't really as into the music. You got to have an awesome sound system if you want to entertain your kids, and that's why I have the Sonos Arc, the premium smart soundbar for TV, movies, music, gaming, and more. This is just incredible. I've already told you about some of the features on the app. Okay. You've got the speech enhancement mode, which when there's kind of like a loud part and you can't hear the character or the character is kind of a mumbler, it helps with that. Also there's the night sound mode, which tones down the loud effects when others are at home
Starting point is 00:32:06 and they're trying to work or they're trying to sleep. So if you got the kids upstairs and you don't want the speaker to wake them up, this really helps with that as well. But overall, look, you wouldn't know unless you heard it. I can tell you how good it is all day, but you're gonna have to go, just go to sonos.com, S-O-N-O-S.com,
Starting point is 00:32:22 or find someone who has it and get their recommendation. But I could not recommend this more strongly. I've heard the outdoor speakers. I have the indoor speaker, and it's just a game changer. And like I said, I mean, I would love to tell you what it sounds like to watch football on it. I haven't really, I've been a little bit of preseason, but I haven't really been able to sit down, turn the volume up, and immerse myself in a game and just enjoy the sounds and the crunches and all those things. But I can tell you, baseball's a lot more fun. The atmosphere sounds better. The crack of the bat sounds crisper. So I absolutely love the Sonos. Again, I really could not recommend it more strongly. Please get yourself a Sonos Arc. Go to Sonos.com
Starting point is 00:33:00 to learn more. S-O-N-O-S.com. Sonos.com. Moving on in average draft position. And we go into round six. Brandon Ayuk. Excuse me. Chase Edmonds. TJ Hawkinson. Jamar Chase. Juju Smith-Schuster.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Deontay Johnson. Man, like, I never see... Juju ahead of Deontay. I never see Godwin go 58th, and I never see Johnson go 66th. So this would be great if it holds up. I'll start over. Ayuk, Edmonds, Hawkinson, Chase, Juju, Deontay, Mostert, Tannehill,
Starting point is 00:33:35 Javante Williams, T. Higgins, Chase, Claypool, and James Robinson. We have got two Bengals receivers, three Steelers receivers, Ayuk, Edmonds, Mostert, Tannehill, Javante Williams, and James Robinson. Jamie, your thoughts. Any league winners here? I mean, if Ayuk does what he did at the end of last season when Kittle was banged up and Samuel was banged up, then absolutely. But those things probably have to happen for him to play at that level. If two of the Steelers go away, the third one would be awesome and a league winner.
Starting point is 00:34:12 If two of the Bengals receivers go away, then one would be a potential league winner. But I mean, these are all, and I know you hate this, Adam, but these are all injury situations where one guy I think can stand out above the rest. Hawkinson is a great pick here in this range because you're getting him after the other two tight ends. So if you don't necessarily have a favorite out of Andrews, Pitts, and Hawkinson, and you get Hawkinson around later, then that's fantastic. But, you know, Williams needs Melvin Gordon to go bye-bye. Edmonds probably needs James Conner to go bye-bye. Robinson, for sure, needs Travis Etienne and maybe Carlos Hyde to go bye-bye. Edmonds probably needs James Conner to go bye-bye. Robinson for sure needs Travis Etienne and maybe Carlos Hyde to go bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:34:51 He, to me, is the most overvalued player in this round, but the rest of them I think are fine picks. Deontay Johnson won me over in the preseason game against the Lions. That big catch he had down the field where Roethlisberger threw kind of a helium balloon his way, that was against Jeff Okuda, and he ran right past him. When I went back and watched the coach's film, Juju was getting open, but Deontay was getting really open, and I can't help myself. That was also with Claypool not on the field.
Starting point is 00:35:17 What's up? With Claypool not on the field. Right. They were still using a ton of three-receiver sets. Not everything was with two tight ends, and when they did go to two tight ends, Ebron was usually one of them, and he was running downfield. Ebron was kind of getting open, too, which kind of scared me a little bit.
Starting point is 00:35:30 I thought I was seeing things. You're surprised that people are getting open on the Lions backups? Okuda's not a backup. He's a starter. He was the only one. Might have been. Or at least one of the only ones. Look, it was encouraging to see. I think Johnson could be a little better.
Starting point is 00:35:46 But that's the problem, though, is that they're all so good. It is. So, hold on. Let me ask generally. Okay. With these wide receivers, Ayuk, Chase, Juju, Deontay, and T. Higgins, is that it? And Claypool.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And Claypool. And Claypool. Do you really not see a path to them being a league winner without an injury? Yeah. I think maybe if Trey Lance is just amazing. I can see it for Johnson. Johnson kind of was there last year. I could see it for Higgins,
Starting point is 00:36:22 especially with Jamar Chase. I could see it for both Higgins and Chase, to be honest with you. Can I just say one thing about Chase? He had a terrible game. He played nine snaps. He ran seven routes. He had three drops and no catches.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Two years ago when he was playing with Joe Burrow at LSU with a crowded receiving core, by the way, he had five drops on 121 targets. It's not the drops. It's everything that's going along with his offseason, though.
Starting point is 00:36:43 He's getting open. He's going to be okay. Then why would the coaching staff indicate to a very polished reporter that covers the team that he may not be on the field to open the season? There's clearly something he's doing wrong. There's clearly something that he's doing wrong. That's going to be a problem. Yeah, but I don't think that lasts.
Starting point is 00:37:01 And you said it yourself, Jamie. How can you take a first first round receiver and bench him for out and out and tate it would be dumb beyond stretch of dumb why would they be absolutely ludicrous and stupid for them to do that but clearly there's something that is not clicking right now it may be burrow not being 100 it may be him still working back his legs after the extended off uh absence it could be him adjusting to the NFL. All these things are factoring in, but I do think that it's just worth noting when you have two other very talented receivers on the field that the quarterback also has played with.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Like, I think we're overblowing too much of the fact that Burrow spent a year with Jamar chase in, in, in his amazing season. It was fantastic. The reason he also spent a year plus with these guys too. And so, you know, those things matter.
Starting point is 00:37:50 So I don't think that there's a clear path to really any of these guys being league winners as long as everybody else is healthy. Like I think Johnson could be a little bit better than what he was a year ago if Ben is better because I think he is the best receiver, you know, based on opportunity and what his role is going to be. But I don't think he's going to be somebody that is a top 10 fantasy receiver if Juju and Claypool are healthy because you saw what the targets were last year with those guys too.
Starting point is 00:38:15 So I just got to say that when you think about what a league winner is, and let's just think about some of the guys who were league winners last year, don't necessarily, especially at this point in the draft, don't think about it from week one through week 17 or 18. Think about who could help win. Jefferson, David Montgomery, Jonathan Taylor. It makes me like Chase
Starting point is 00:38:37 even more. It makes me like all of these guys. I mean, I think this is a great round. Look, I know the receiver. This is why receiver really pisses me off this year it's like we've taken too many great receivers and put them on too few teams and it just nfl teams it just bothers me but you can't deny what t higgins did last year what brandon iuk did last year the fact that they did what they did as rookies suggests that they have elite upside as NFL players. So it could happen. And, you know, this is you want to you want a piece of this,
Starting point is 00:39:11 even if it's not going to happen right away. And you said that Chase Edmond needs James Conner to go bye bye. Well, James Conner is quite injury prone. And at this point in his career, we don't really know how much he has left. So I don't think it's unrealistic that Edmonds in the second half of the year is not like a 20-touch guy, but he's a four-catch guy and a 12-13 carry guy or something like that. So I see a ton of league-winning upside in this round. Because you know what? You look at this round, it's a lot of good offenses too. And then Javante Williams is showing, I think he's showing a lot.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Now granted, it's against backups. Agreed. But he is doing what he's supposed to do, and that is running people over, breaking tackles. They traded up to get him. We know a lot of people thought that he was the best running back in this class. Javante Williams is a guy who can have a six-game stretch at the end of the year that wins you your league,
Starting point is 00:39:58 and we're talking about him as maybe a second-round pick next year. So I don't really know what my general point is, but I like this draft. I don't really know what my general point is, but I like this. I like this draft. I like this round a lot. I just think there's a ton of talent in this round. I like it better
Starting point is 00:40:11 than the previous round. The running back. Because it's later. Well, I mean, I think there's a huge difference between the previous round. Let's look. Let's again remind people
Starting point is 00:40:20 of the previous round because that you don't have as much competition for targets with those wide receivers, right? You have Lockett, and I'm just looking on our... Julio was in there. Dylan was in there. Lockett, Godwin, DJ Moore.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Yeah, right. So it's starting to get into that range. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if three of the wide receivers in round six finished ahead of three of the wide receivers in round five you know you tell me that t higgins was better than dj moore who's who's going to be surprised by that so you know what i'm going to try and do i'm going to try and trade my fourth and seventh round picks for a fifth and a sixth round pick yeah and i can skip the question marks around the guy with two
Starting point is 00:40:59 fours get two players that you want yeah yeah but five and six five and six are still really good rounds right i want to get those players. Or I'll reach a little bit in round four if I can't trade the pick. Demarte's apparently had a big play in practice today. Yeah. Okay, my general point, though, since I went
Starting point is 00:41:17 on a little bit of a ramble, is that when you're drafting, it's tempting to think about your week one lineup. But just remember, you're playing the long game here. And the fact that it's a 17-game season now, 18 weeks, 17 fantasy weeks, actually helps a little bit. Buy yourself a little bit of time
Starting point is 00:41:35 to take a guy who's got a little bit of upside, but it might take a few weeks or even more to see it happen. You will find, as we go through these lists, that there are players who you can draft later that can be useful in week one, and then you might be cutting them by week four. Okay, so let's probably go a little faster
Starting point is 00:41:53 so we can hit a lot of rounds. We are now into, what, round seven? I'm getting confused. Round seven. Kenny Galladay, Leonard Fournette, DJ Chark. I will stop coughing before the start of the regular season. I feel like I will not have a month and a half long cold. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Galladay, Fournette, DJ Chark, Cortland Sutton, Michael Thomas. I'd say league winner there. Melvin Gordon. But his ADP is still going down. I don't know where Thomas is going to end up. He's 77th overall. Melvin Gordon, Damian Harris, Matthew Stafford,
Starting point is 00:42:27 Beckham, Michael Carter, Noah Fant, and Jerry Judy. Again, one name. I love from the Steelers round to the Broncos round. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Galladay, Fournette, Chark, Sutton, Michael Thomas, Melvin Gordon, Harris, Damian Harris,
Starting point is 00:42:41 Stafford, Beckham, Carter, Fant, Judy. So on, on the live show at noon, I talked about how Jerry Judy has the potential to finish as a top 24 receiver and you don't have to draft him as such.
Starting point is 00:42:54 After the show, I went and I watched the Broncos game. He's amazing. And you know what? Bridgewater has eyes for him. Bridgewater definitely showed a lot of check down material in the game against Seattle, but Judy was busting up the starting cornerbacks for the Seattle Seahawks in that preseason game. And he's going to bust up everybody. And if I'm getting him in round seven,
Starting point is 00:43:15 I think I'm committing grand larceny. Absolutely my favorite player in this round that I'm happy to take round six, maybe even late round five. I might get to that point because I love him so much. I thought Drew Locke didn't look as good. I bet Bridgewater's the starter, and I think he'll be good for Jerry Judy. He's my favorite in this round. And he's the last pick of the round, too. Now, just to note, though, Cortland Sutton hasn't played. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Yeah. You could see that catch and run, the explosiveness that that guy has. It's fun to watch. He's had big plays each of the last two preseason games. He looks better than he did last year, and he was getting open a lot last year, but 58% of the throws his way were not catchable. And then some of them were catchable, and he dropped them, and I just don't think that's who he is.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Just like I don't think Jamar Chase is a guy that's going to drop every target that goes his way. Okay, Jamie. What was the league? Oh, the June Magazine League. I feel like I have Jerry Judy in that league. I'm going to check. You're probably going to win. Because if I do, I'm going to kick all your asses because I have Daryl Henderson.
Starting point is 00:44:19 No, damn it. I don't have him. What a bummer. But I have Javon Williams. Let's see. Judy. him. What a bummer. But I have Javon Williams. Let's see. Judy. George Maselli. Stinking George. Okay, Jamie, what did you think about round seven?
Starting point is 00:44:34 Did you find any other league winners? Thomas is the easiest one here. And he might be the best one of the last two rounds, you know, if he's right. Because that's the perfect scenario of what you brought up, Adam. What happens by the end of the season? Because if he's back, you know, from week six on, after their bye week, and he's right because that's the perfect scenario what you brought up adam what happens by the end of the season because if he's back you know from week six on after their bye week um and
Starting point is 00:44:49 he's michael thomas then you're not finding a player like that this late he's you know first round talent certainly with the right quarterback situation and as we saw you know he was a second round pick before the injury uh i like damian harris a lot you know it's crowded backfield uh better in non-ppr and probably half than full PPR, clearly, because he's not going to be involved in the passing game. But, you know, I mean, you see what this Patriots offense is going to be. They're going to be a run-first team. He's going to lose receptions to James White.
Starting point is 00:45:15 He's going to lose some goal-line opportunities to Cam Newton. But, you know, he was their guy last year when he was healthy. I think he's going to be their guy this year. I don't know what they're going to do with their backfield because they have a very talented group. You know, Sonny Michel looks as good as he ever has. Ramondre Stevenson looks like a star. J.J. Taylor looks good. You know, so they have just a lot of guys,
Starting point is 00:45:33 and I'm sure they're probably making phone calls trying to see if they can trade one of them if not having to cut or they'll stash Stevenson on the practice squad if they can. They're not going to be able to. But it's just a talented group, but it's a very good offensive line. And Harris has been their lead guy
Starting point is 00:45:49 through the first two preseason games. So I really like the setup for him a lot. I like Michael Carter. We're disenchanted because he didn't play with the starters in the second preseason game. He started the game in the first preseason game. I think he's the best overall running back that the jets have
Starting point is 00:46:05 even had a couple of good pass protection reps which he was he was a total liability in college but he had two tries at it against the packers and he good did fine on both of them and he's one of those players who i think cream rises at the top and eventually he'll be the lead back for the jets it might not happen in week one but, but he fits right in with the narrative of he might not help you right away, but later on down the line, he will. Boy, you know you drafted in June when you have David Johnson, Latavius Murray,
Starting point is 00:46:33 and Amari Rogers on your bench, huh? Yeah, you're going to win that league. Rogers did not look good. Still, this might be my favorite team. Okay, back to round eight. I'll tell you all about it when I win the league. The Rams DST. Oh, there's a league winner.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah. Hey, you never know. Trey Sermon, James Conner, Tyler Boyd, Dallas Goddard, Jalen Hurts, Robbie Anderson, Devante Smith, the Bucks DST, Debo Samuel, Tyler Higbee, and Brandon Cooks. We've got two DSTs, the Rams and the Bucs. We've got Trey Sermon, James Conner, Tyler Boyd, Dallas Goddard, Jalen Hurts, Robbie Anderson, Devontae Smith, Debo Samuel, and Tyler Higbee, and Brandon Cooks.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I was going to poop all over this round, but there are some names in here that are interesting to me. Just the league winners, though, because Boyd's really solid. I don't know if he's a league winner. Right. But you're also in round eight, Adam. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:34 So it's hard to find a league winner in round eight. I think in PPR, Tyler Boyd can be a little bit better than just solid. And I think Robbie could be too. So there are players who I think you could reliably start all season long. Smith, if he were healthy, would be one of those guys. And Trey Sermon, we really haven't seen a rookie running back do great
Starting point is 00:47:53 with Kyle Shanahan, certainly not in San Francisco and not since Alfred Morris in 2012. But he runs hard. He can catch the football. He's a good fit for that offense compared to the other running backs that they have. He can offer them something a little bit different, and it wouldn't surprise me if they did let him specialize on short yardage
Starting point is 00:48:12 goal line to begin the year. If Mostert gets hurt, and if Chase Edmonds gets hurt or fails in that role, the two running backs could be really good. Does anybody think Devontae Smith could be a league winner? Yeah. I mean, you know, Jalen Hurts is looking better as a passer,
Starting point is 00:48:29 and, you know, he's going to be the lead receiver there. I mean, Jalen Rager is not even part of the two-receiver set at this point. He's playing more in three-or-three sets and returning kicks. So he looks like a bust. Quez Watkins, you know, is more of a deep-threat speed guy. So, you know, if Smith can be the focal point asz watkins you know is more of a a deep threat speed guy so you know smith can be the focal point as he was you know maybe to the extent in alabama then he's in a great situation um brandon cooks is is clearly a league winner if the quarterback situation gets straightened out there if if deshaun watson's able to play so you know he's we've said this time and time again that
Starting point is 00:49:04 where he's falling in in drafts if something changes it's getting harder to expect something to change at this point but um if watson does play or if there's a trade or something happens that you know it's an upgrade over tyrod or davis mills then brandon cooks is just going to be fantastic adam the lead winner in this round might be jalen hurt yeah right i mean well the quarterbacks are obviously the easy ones right but like this is one that's realistic for our drafts, too. I wouldn't bat an eyelash if Jalen
Starting point is 00:49:30 Hurts went in round eight in one of our leagues, Jamie. I would do it, of course. We saw quarterbacks going in round three that we wouldn't take until round five. This is one that feels more realistic for us. It might not be realistic in everybody's home leagues, but he seems to be throwing the ball better.
Starting point is 00:49:45 We know the offensive line's going to be better. I hope, fingers crossed, that Devontae Smith can be good in this offense and be on the field for him, but he's got lots of rushing upside. If he's passing with more efficiency, then he's got a chance to finish as a top-five fantasy quarterback. We've also seen a break in the quarterback ADP. You got Mahomes
Starting point is 00:50:06 10th, Allen 17th, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers, Justin Herbert, all going between picks 30 and 40. You got Wilson and Prescott and Brady at 47, 51 and 56, respectively. Tannehill at 68. And then you go Stafford 80, Hurts 90. So at this point, the quarterback drafting has slowed down a little bit. And to see Hurts as, let's see, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. I think he's QB 12. Burroughs 13, Lawrence is 14. Or did I, I might've counted that wrong. Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Murray Rogers, Herbert, Wilson, Dak Brady, Tannehill, Stafford QB 12 is Hertz, 13 Burrow 14 Lawrence
Starting point is 00:50:49 that's your ADP let's go to our next round I think we are at 97 overall we are into round 9 and we have Joe Burrow Antonio Brown Robert Tunyon Ronald Jones,
Starting point is 00:51:06 Trevor Lawrence, Will Fuller, Jarvis Landry, Logan Thomas, Jared Cook, and Kenyon Drake. We might be kind of running low on league winners, people, but we'll see. Burrow, Antonio Brown, Tunyon, Ronald Jones, Trevor Lawrence, Fuller, Landry, Logan Thomas, Jaredared cook kenyan drake that's round nine so obviously if we left out two players what's up jim oh i'm sorry i i did uh steelers and jalen waddle there's the league winner waddle yeah he he's one of them in this round for sure loved watching him practice against the falcons. He was getting open on the regular.
Starting point is 00:51:45 They're going to use him in the slot. There's been one play from each Dolphins preseason game where he's gotten wide-ass open in the middle of the field and two has just missed him. Didn't see him. One time it was a check down to Malcolm Brown. It made me cry. I think that that can get fixed, and if it does,
Starting point is 00:52:02 then you're going to see this guy make plays every single week. We know that Will Fuller isn't at 100%. Devontae Parker is good. He's not great. I agree with you, Jamie. I think that he's one of the league winners in this round. You could make the, well, if guys get hurt, then he'll be great argument for Antonio Brown. Mike Evans goes down with an injury. For example, he played through four injuries last year. AB could really step up. We saw it in Week 17 last year. He had 15 targets, 11 catches, 3,000 yards, and 14 touchdowns just
Starting point is 00:52:29 in that game. Logan Thomas has become my tight end seven. I'm locking him in. He's my seventh favorite tight end. After the first six are off the board, Thomas is who I want next. Willing to take him in early round eight. What are we talking? Round nine, round ten? Late round nine here. He's actually one of the biggest risers.
Starting point is 00:52:46 He's up 21 spots. Yeah, I'm glad to see it happening. It's a smart move. He's going to see a lot of single coverage because McLaurin's on the other side, and I think Fitzpatrick likes throwing to him. I said that earlier when we were talking about McLaurin. I think he's easily going to be not quite as good as he was last year, but very, very good nonetheless.
Starting point is 00:53:04 That's Logan Thomas. All right, moving on, Jamie, or anything else? Nope. Okay, round 10. David Johnson, Zach Moss, Marvin Jones, Harrison Butker, Irv Smith, T.Y. Hilton, Mike Kosicki, LaVisca Chennault, football team, Ravens,
Starting point is 00:53:24 Jamal Williams and AJ Dillon and again it's David Johnson Zach Moss Marvin Jones Butker Irv Smith T.Y. Hilton Mike Kosicki LaVisca Chenault Washington football team Ravens Jamal Williams and AJ Dillon
Starting point is 00:53:38 well Dillon you know what the answer is I mean it's Dillon he looked so good and Aaronaron jones injury and and aj dylan's going to be a monster i i bet he takes over that jamal williams role so that's nine ten touches per game yeah but i think it's different though because he's not going to be the pass catcher there i think he could i think he could we saw him catch a couple passes in that preseason game against the jets and he looked he looked natural. And there were two plays where it took three Jets defenders to bring him down,
Starting point is 00:54:08 and another play where it only took two, only two Jets defenders to take him down. I'm taking him in every draft I can. A.J. Dillon. And the other Jags guys here, they're certainly intriguing. You know, if Chark misses any time in the regular season, he's already hurt now.
Starting point is 00:54:24 I think it's kind of cool that Marvin Jones is going ahead of Chenault for two reasons. I think people are buying into Jones as a riser, but it allows you to get Chenault later if you like Chenault more than I do. Jones has the rhythm with Lawrence, by the way. And they're in Williams if something happens to DeAndre Swift. He's already battling a groin injury. Yeah, Irv Smith's in this round and Kosicki's in this round. You know, I've made the point that the number three option on the Vikings has just not been something you want on fantasy.
Starting point is 00:54:55 He's scoring 10 touchdowns this year. Yeah. The other thing is I can't sit here and say something that I have said, which I think Adam Thielen of all the players drafted in the top 60 other than maybe a couple of running backs who could lose their jobs. I think Adam Thielen might have the most bottom out potential. He's just done. I don't think you can say that and not acknowledge
Starting point is 00:55:15 big upside for Irv Smith because that would probably, presumably that would help Smith quite a bit. Would you draft David Johnson, Jamie? Would I draft David Johnson? No. I don't. Would you draft David Johnson, Jamie? Would I draft David Johnson? No, I don't think I've drafted David Johnson once. Yeah. And a 15 round draft.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I think his best path to getting back on the fantasy radar is to get off of Houston's roster. Yeah, of course. They cut him and he signed somewhere else. All right, guys, the rest of the draft board's yours. Do you see any other league winners after round 10 that don't need an injury to reach their potential? I mean, we've got interesting... Nico Hardman. Yeah, Hardman, Marquise Brown.
Starting point is 00:55:53 You got rookie-wide receivers all over the place. You got Trey Lance. Jacoby Myers. And Justin Fields. Yep, Fields and Lance. I don't know about... I mean, can we call Jacoby Myers a league winner? That would be...
Starting point is 00:56:03 I think he could... If Matt Jones comes in and they open up the offense a little more, not with Cam at quarterback. I don't think they're going to throw the ball enough. Cam threw 20% of his throws over the course of the season to Jacoby Myers. And then the last, yeah, but they're just not going to have enough volume passing that he's going to be a league winner. He's going to be very good. In the last 11 weeks, the, the target share was 32%.
Starting point is 00:56:22 So even if he throws it 24 times, that's still eight targets a game for Jacoby Myers. That's okay with me. Yes, for a guy that's never scored a touchdown in the NFL yet, he's going to have to do a lot to be a league winner. I love him. I think he's fantastic. He's a great number three receiver,
Starting point is 00:56:37 but a league winner, no. Not unless something dramatically changes. Yeah. Corey Davis. I don't know how much longer he'll be back here maybe maybe definitely a good value when you're talking about 144th i henry rugs you guys think he has uh that upside rugs he definitely has that upside i feel like i need to see it first where's he going, Ruggs?
Starting point is 00:57:07 Round 13, 14, something like that? Yeah, totally okay taking him there. Oh, man. Totally fine. Michael Pittman? Pittman's good. Mooney's good. Mooney's right. Gallup, I know you don't want to say injury,
Starting point is 00:57:17 but Mario Cooper's already coming back from an injury. Gallup, to me, even without an injury, I don't see why he couldn't have as much of an impact as Jacoby Myers. Just be a number three receiver. He may get more targets. Yeah. Who would you rather have, Myers or Gallup? Myers, but it wouldn't be shocking if the Cowboys throw like they did last year
Starting point is 00:57:40 that he has more targets. Again, Myers was great last year. He was great in the preseason game. By all accounts, he's having a fantastic offseason, but the tight ends haven't been healthy. So, you know, once John Smith and Hunter Henry get on the field, we'll see if the target share is still the same.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Because what he did last year was nothing was around him. Hey, join our Facebook group. I should have told you earlier, but join our Facebook group because we are going to have a Fantasy Football Facebook League. And if you want to join the league, comment your...
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Starting point is 00:58:42 that's always good. Thanks to Dave and Jamie. Good stuff today. League winners in every round. Hopefully this was helpful for you. We'll talk to you tomorrow with the most polarizing players in fantasy.

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