Fantasy Football Today - Listener Mock Draft REVIEW! What They Got Right & Wrong (07/09 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 9, 2026

Dave Richard is joined by special guests Jake Ciely and Bob Harris to review a fan mock draft and break down the teams! The crew dives into Round 1 (3:13), debating whether Jonathan Taylor was taken a bit too early at pick 5 while praising the value of Jaxon Smith-Njigba at No. 6. Focusing on some RBs (12:23), the guys like James Cook at 2.4 but were surprised with Cam Skattebo at the end of round 2. They continue with the standout picks and biggest concerns through four rounds, including Kyren Williams' surprising fall to Round 4 (29:48) and the risk of drafting Malik Nabers amid injury concerns. Later, they spotlight their favorite picks from Rounds 5-8, featuring Jayden Daniels in Round 6 (51:40) and Tucker Kraft's value in Round 7 (1:02:15), while explaining why Sam LaPorta in Round 5 (45:19) and rookie Makai Lemon in Round 8 (1:11:28) missed the mark. The episode wraps up with the crew revealing their favorite and least favorite teams from the mock, along with the biggest takeaways for your upcoming fantasy football draft.Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcastsWatch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Up to the races, and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

We are two weeks away from training camp opening across the NFL. This is the perfect time to do a mock draft, which I didn't take part in. other guys didn't take part in, but to review it and tell you what went right and what went wrong. So that way, when you get to your drafts in two, three, four, five, six weeks, you'll be ready to go. Welcome in to fantasy football today. It's Dave Richard. Two of the greatest fantasy football minds couldn't make it to the show today. So instead we got Jake Seeley from the athletic and Bob Harris from football guys, two dear friends of mine in the industry.

Two guys with interesting opinions. I've been following their work for years, and I know that their opinions are rock solid, and I'm hoping to get their perspectives on some players that maybe we haven't quite gotten from our crew here on fantasy football today. Bob, you're the older one of the two. I am. I give you the floor first.

How are things going at football guys? Things are going fantastic, staying busy. The serious show is just cranked up this week, so you'll catch me there five days a week, and once the season starts, it'll be seven. No, there's no escape. I apologize to everyone who feels that way. But yeah, it's been ongoing.

Been doing all the best ball drafts, having a good time all offseason long, doing the things we like to do. So, yeah, I'm ready to roll here. I think there's some interesting values going on right now in the fantasy football world. I think we'll discuss some in this very program. We will absolutely go round by round and talk, not necessarily pick by pick, but round by round for sure. Jake, how's life at the athletic?

It is great. Yeah, you won up my joke. I was going to jump in when you said two of the greatest, and I was going to say, and Jake. And then so to give you your flowers. And then you made it even better. But yeah, things are good over at the athletic. This month is all the breakout series, as I always do.

And it's fun to do these mock drafts, especially with great minds like you. Two guys I looked up to when I started in this industry to make that clear. When I started, two guys, I looked up to. Yeah, and now you're kicking ass and we're not. So it's great that you are. You chose this path instead of just staying on the sideline and following along.

Thanks a lot, Jake. Okay. Once by the time, Jake was a fan, and that's who we got for this draft. Twelve fans, you know that I've been putting together these fans only mock drafts. And so this week, we had 12 fans from fantasy football today, get together in a draft room, and this is the draft. Here it is for all to see. And you'll notice this is the CBS Sports draft room, the draft board. This is an upgrade for 2026.

You guys will love it. You can easily see who went where at W. which pick, which position, all that good stuff. And we're just going to walk through it round by round. No surprises in the first round for those listening. Let me break it down for you. And remember, 12 team, full PPR, start two running backs, start two wide receivers, start two flex.

How is like that suitable lineup better just because you've got more options, a little bit more flexibility, one tight end, one quarterback, no kickers, no DSTs, who the hell needs those positions? Jake could go on for hours about the kickers. We're not going there, Jake. Zip your lips. We're not talking kickers today. Here's round one.

Jemir Gibbs. Jemar Chase. John Robinson. Pooka, John and Taylor, Jackson Smith and Jigba. I think that that's going to end up being a consensus top six.

Followed by, and things will get a little weird in a couple of picks here. Amon Ross St. Brown with 7th. Christian McCaffrey 8th. Ashton Genty, 9th.

How about Drake London going 10th? Justin Jefferson 11th, Devon A. Chan going 12th. That's the first round. There is no James Cook in the first round. There is no C.D. Lamb in the first round. No Chase Brown. Bob, I'll go to you first. You got a favorite pick in round one? Yeah, you know, like round one is a funny thing because we're drafting everyone at their

ceiling, right? So, you know, you need them to come through and they either will or they won't. So that being the case, I'm going to say Christian McCaffrey going eight is probably my favorite pick, realizing, yes, he is older, over 30, by golly. Yes, he's coming off a 400 plus touch season. But also, yes, Kyle Shanahan cannot quit him. As long as he's in the locked and upright position, he is going to get the kind of workload that will give him an opportunity to easily outperform that eighth spot. Jake, you agree? Is it McCaffrey? I had two. And looking at this, and one of them was going to be McCaffrey because he fell that far, because I think there's an argument that he's the third running back. He could argue if he's the third running back that he

should be inside the top five. I think the only hesitation is the amount of thought just now in his career. But I was slightly leaning more like, I just really like JSN at six. I could take JASN myself at four, even arguably three. We were just talking coming off last year. I don't have a problem with Chase being the first wide receiver. It's just strange to me going to get what we just saw JSN do to break out. It was Nakua and JSN were the top two. He outscored Chase by quite a bit that being Smith and Jigba. So I think the fact that you can get him as the third wide receiver, when I think he's in the conversation to be up there with Pooka Nakua, I like him at six there. Yeah, a lot of people do. And people see that Jackson Smith and Jigba after the year that he had.

And don't forget about the half year he had in 2024. He averaged. And I needed to be reminded of this in the second half of 2024 over 17 PPR points per game. That was the setup for him to go to that next level in 20, 25 when he averaged north of 20 ppr points per game as the clear number one target in Seattle. I think game script is going to be better for him this year. I'm real curious about how that offense is going to look in the red zone without Zach Charbonnet, without Kenneth Walker, not the Walker was a big factor in the red zone. I wonder if there's going to be a little bit more passing for Jackson Smith and Jigua inside

the 20s. And as for Christian McCaffrey, I wasn't wowed by that pick. I still see him as a first round guy, and I think that's the right place to take them. I'm not going to get into my whole diatribe about the touches and the age and all that other stuff. You can find that on CBSSports.com, or you could Google Dave Richard, Christian McCaffrey,

and it should come up right there. Maybe add fantasy football to your Google search, and you'll get it right away. But when he's had a lot of work previously, he's broken down the years after. And I said years, plural, because there was a time that there were two years that he missed. It really didn't help fantasy managers because of injuries.

So I'm a little bit nervous about that. I always hate that argument too. Well, he could get hurt. And if that's the only argument, then you should still take that guy. And that's why I still see him as a first round pick. So that's who we liked in the first round. Who did we hate in the first round? Jake, first word to you.

I think it's hard to really, as Ziggy's getting riled up in the background. I think it's hard to hate anybody in the first round. As Bob said, you know, we're drafting all at their peak. So if we're going to be nitpicky here, I say the only one that I don't love because of where he went is Jonathan Taylor. It's not that I don't think Jonathan Taylor can be Jonathan Taylor.

And here's the thing. If the Colts went 17 and 0, Jonathan Taylor would be the 101 101, he'd be better than when Daniel Thomason because here's the stat I'm going to throw out. 30 points per game and wins, 10 in losses. And we saw how bad it was down the stretch,

those losses. A lot of them incorporated into Daniel Jones. We're just banking on Daniel Jones. Hopefully there's still no clarity on if he's going to be 100% for week one. And then that's one of the biggest, possibly the biggest I can remember for my entire career of the difference between wins and losses to have that big a 20 point per game gap. That's that's an RB1 gap. That's a top five gap. So it's just the fact that like I don't mind Taylor in the first round. I would just rather take it with the back half of the first round. So again, we're being nitpicky. It's the first round.

I don't mean to put you on the spot. And if you don't have this information, just say so. We can always look for it after the show and then posting on social media. Do you have the difference in wins and losses for J.T. When Daniel Jones. played. No, I don't. The drop-off was dramatic. Yeah, it was, yeah. Just the overall offensive drop-off was huge. I think that was the problem. The Colts went from one of the best offenses of football to one of the worst and all the big, you know, big games, the big runs, everything evaporated at that point.

So I kind of, I tend to agree a little bit. I mean, I think Taylor's a little bit high there as well. But I think there's a handful of guys here. I mean, like, you know, you can make arguments as I sat here trying to score through, like, Drake London, am I confident in his quarterback situation? Not necessarily. I would like to see, you know, Michael Pennix Jr. in there. We saw the numbers last year were, or the stark with him with and without Pennix.

Although London was hurt during that span, too. And Justin Jefferson, like I felt like, you know, Kyler Murray would be a, and I guess, you know, we see Justin Jefferson. He has totally earned the quarterback proof card. But there is a J.J. McCarthy exception on that license, right? we saw last year was horrible. So I'm not sure, and I was pretty convinced Kyler Murray was going to be the starting quarterback until Tyler Murray started Kyler Murraying during OTA.

So I'm a little less confident in that. So I have some uncertainty. Like Jesse Jefferson has been a great player, a great fantasy asset. He could well be again. I just, you know, when I look at some of the guys going in the second round, I think, man, I might have played it a little safer. It's one thing to say, well, he can't do any worse

with Kyler Murray than he did with J.J. McCarthy. But imagine saying he could do worse than how he did with Carson Wentz with Kyler Murray. Because with Wentz, he was good. He wasn't Justin Jefferson good. He wasn't 18 p.PR points per game good. I think the number was 16 and a half in those five games. We can go back like two years ago and what it was Josh Dobbs, Geron Hall, all the time. Nick Mullins. I mean, he was wide receiver three with those quarterbacks over like a five game stretch. So he just needs a competent quarterback.

Is Kyler a competent quarterback? That's the question we kind of have to ask ourselves. Not now. We don't have to answer it now, but when camp opens in two weeks, are we going to be hearing reports about Murray getting it and clicking and being in sync? Or are we going to hear about what we heard about in OTAs,

Jake? I was going to say, I did the quick math for you. And I found it so it was a 20-point-game difference for the entire season just with Daniel Jones. It was 19.7. So it was a huge difference. Yeah, so basically, a huge difference with him without Daniel is basically right in line with what the issues were.

So there you go. Bob, did you say who you hated the most in round one? Was it London? Was it Jefferson? Is it a tie for first? If I had to pick one, it would probably, I would probably go with Jake and say Jonathan Taylor just for how high he went. I'm seeing him not go that early in drafts,

but I can make the argument for him. So I'm going to go, I'm going to go off Jake, and I'm going to go ahead and say Justin Jefferson. Okay. And I'll say Drake London because I'm a little nervous about how that quarterback situation shakes out, the change in the offense. I think they might try forcing some passes to other wide receivers. They're not a ton.

I still think London's the guy. I just don't want to take him in round number one. So let's kick it over to round number two. Favorite pick in round two. I'll go first. I love James Cook. I think James Cook is a first round pick. Seeing him go in the second round,

it made me wish that I had that team because James Cook has been great the last two years. I worry about the workload that he just had. 385 touches, I believe is the number. That's pretty close to 400 touches. And for a guy who is as lean as James Cook, it does concern me a little bit. So when I do draft James Cook,

I also get Ray Davis just in case of emergency. And we have seen Ray Davis play well without James Cook on the field before. But I thought that that was the best pick in the second round, because that's first round value in round two. Jake Seeley, I'm going to go to you first. Who is the best pick in round two? Because you saw me nodding my head and complete agreement with you is that James Cook, as soon as I saw him in round two,

I'm like, that's my pick. I'll let Bob like argue for somebody else instead of trying to pick somebody else because off the cuff. Like I just did a show yesterday talking about James Cook and everything you said, yeah, the touches. I mean, if you include the playoffs could be a concern. But Ian Hardest did something a few weeks ago talking about how like we picked these arbitrary numbers of 3.73, 80, 400, whatever it is. So we can cut off, and not saying you guys are doing this. So we can cut off certain names and make it look more stark. And it's like the count doesn't really matter to me because James Cook's the.

doesn't have a thousand touches for his career. Like, it's not like he's coming off multiple season of this. And to your point, he actually improved his yards per touch, both rushing and receiving, despite having a hundred more carries. Everybody's like, oh, he can't have 16 touchdowns again. Okay, so he only had 12. He also had 600 more rushing yards on 100 more attempts. So I'm not that concerned about James Cook's workload at this point, maybe in two years,

but just not yet. Before I get your pick, Bob, it probably would do some. good to actually tell everybody who went in round two, especially for those listening. And now watching on YouTube. So forgive me, this is how round two went. Chase Brown, first pick around two, Sequin Barclay, Derek Henry, James Cook. Okay, so James Cook went after Chase Brown, Sequan Barkley, and Derek Henry. We could talk about that. Maybe not. We'll see what Bob says about who his favorite pick was before we do that. After those four running backs, plenty of wide receivers, C.D. Lamb, fifth pick around two,

A.J. Brown, sixth pick of round two. Omarian Hampton, followed by Rishie Rice, Kenneth Walker the third, 21st overall, ninth pick of round two, Nico Collins, George Pickens, and the last pickings, and the last pick of round two. And I got a feeling there's going to be consensus on who our least favorite pick is in round two. Cam Scataboo of the New York Giants was the last pick in the second round,

but we're not talking about the pick that we don't like. We're talking about the pick we like the most. Bob, who is your favorite pick in round two? It is, it is Cook, but since you're going to, you know, since you guys both hit that, I mean, I think you could make an argument for Nico Collins going at the tail end of round two. I see him going there a lot. I think there's more upside there. I could say the save, though, for C.D. Lamb, A.J. Brown. I mean, I've seen A.J. Brown get two top five seasons in his career. Could he do another one in fantasy easily, right? We've seen Cedie Lam head into seasons is the wide receiver one. He could be the best. Cook is the best pick, but I think there's a ton of great picture. But I'm going to go a little bit, a little bit of skew from what you're saying. Sam Scataboo is the pick I both love and hate. I love it because I love him. But I mean, obviously, I'm going to go off Jeff Rackcliffe here. I don't walk into Starbucks and pay $12 for my $6 coffee, right?

And I mean, and that's what happened here. So you hate that portion of it. But I do love Scataboo. And I think he is undervalued in normal drafts where you're finding him going around four on the norm. I think he's a great pick there. This is way too early. So I do hate it. but I also, I kind of love it.

Like if you're a scataboo guy, I mean, make your claim. Go for it. And so love hate there, also hate George Pickens in this round. You know, players coming off the great, unusually great seasons with some circumstances that may have set him up for it. I think he's just going a little high. I did the research on how often wide receivers repeat as top 12 PPR point per game finishers. from season to season. There's been one set since 2014,

and it was in Minnesota with Diggs and Thielen. Bengals guys came close last year. They were both top 13, but if we're drafting George Pickens in round two, it's absolutely close to the ceiling. I go back and forth, Bob, on whether or not I love George Pickens or like them. I tend to agree that Pickens would,

I think it's okay in this round. I don't necessarily love it, but the Scadaboo's pick sitting at the end of round two just absolutely stands out to me. I've got my rankings open. I'd like to hear it from you guys. And then Jake, I'll ask you which pick you hated the most in round two, assuming that it wasn't Scataboo. How do you have the four running backs that went at the top of round two ranked?

It's Chase Brown. This is the order they went. Chase Brown, Sequin Barclay, Derek Henry, James Cook. I've got Cook first. I've got Sequin and Henry back to back. And Chase Brown is actually ahead of those guys. So for me, it's Cook one, Chase Brown, two, Barkley, Henry, back to back, all of them top 20 picks in fantasy. Bob, how do you have it?

I have that exactly the same, although like I kind of hope when I'm picking Sequin Barclay that somebody right ahead of me picks him so I could take Derek Henry. Got it. Jake, give me your four, uh, how you have them ranked and then tell me who you hated in round two. I wish it could be different, but I mean, there's a reason we're together is, uh, have the exact same orders, both of you. Like, those chuckling as you listed in the amount. I was like, maybe he'll be different as some of them, but now, the same four in order that you have. And it's between Scatibu. And, Rice, just because we don't know as of today.

Like, I just, if this is a month and a half from then, I know that's kind of the easy pick to make, but like, if I'm taking a gamble on somebody for a top 10 talent, like, I get it, but I'm just not going to do it at this point where there's still so much uncertainty that we don't know. Like, we're going to talk. I don't know if he'll be one of the picks that we hate later, but the Jacob situation, you know, it sounds like it's not going to be something that affects this season, but at the same time for where he's going, it's just not a risk. In July, I'm going to take maybe a month and a half from now when we have more clarity.

can you guys remember a player, and I'm not doing this to quiz you. I'm just openly asking this question. And if you don't know the answer now, think about it and let me know after. If someone's watching, put it in the comments, a player that had some off-field issues and then ended up not getting suspended and having a really good year. Just think about it for a while. Just put that in mind because that's kind of what's happening with Josh Jacobs. This is obviously a huge off-field distraction for him.

I don't know if it's so. bad that like he's paralyzed on his couch and he can't go and work out or, you know, can't do all the things they normally does. He's a professional athlete. Of course, he's preparing like he's going to play this season. But it makes me wonder how often it's been, and it's obviously been rare when a player's had this terrible offseason issue, and then he goes out and he has a monster year. And so if you guys have some ideas on who that is, let us know in the comments, let us know in the chat, whatever it may be. I will say, I was pretty encouraged by watching Rishi Rice sprint away from reporters at

Dale. He seemed to be moving quite well. Which did you like better? That or Malik neighbors running in a softball game? Which one is more impactful for your fantasy analysis? That's a very generous use of the word running. Right. Yeah, I think that cost him about a round of ADP, that one single thing. Here we go.

Dave, I cheated with chat GPT on this. Oh, that's so brilliant. In the past 25 years, no, 15 years, sorry, 15 years. So Adrian Peterson, 2012 came off the ACL, but a lot of off-field questions about his future and ran for 2100 yards. And then Tyrick Hill in 2023 had all that stuff with the marina and legal scrutiny and then let the NFL in 1,800 yards, 1799. He went nuclear that year. But there's two in the past 15 years. Two damn good players, too.

At least at the time, they were amazing. and nobody really, everybody was buying into just how talented they were at the time and they weren't as worried about the off-field issues catching up with them. All right. When we come back, round three, our favorite picks, our least favorite picks will do the same thing in round four. And then we'll talk about draft builds from the first four rounds. Plenty more to come from this fan mock draft on fantasy football today. You may have noticed in the first two rounds, no tight ends, no quarterbacks. That changed in round three, but not at the top of round three. people at the two, three turn did not gravitate toward those positions.

Instead, here's how round three shook out. And again, this for the listeners, everybody watching has already seen who was taken in round three. So thank you for being patient with me. Listeners, pay attention. Chris Olavé, first pick of round three, followed by Jeremiah Love. Zay Flowers, third pick of round three. Josh Jacobs, just got done talking about him. He went in round three.

That's 28th overall on Jacobs. Josh Allen off the board at 29. Brock Bowers, the first tight end, 30th. overall. Devante Smith 31st, that's 3.7. T. McBride after that, followed by Brees Hall, Travis Echan, T. Higgins, and Emeka, Bucca. So I've got five wide receivers. I've got four running backs, one quarterback, two

tight ends. Jake, who's your favorite in round three? Ooh, round three. I like a lot here in round three. That's the problem. As I'm looking at this and like, man, I want to pick like five or six different guys. But I mean, for pure value, I'm going to have the slight lean to Devontas Smith. Just because we've seen the numbers with and without A.J. Brown. He's been a top 10 wide receiver with A.J. Brown and a top 10 wide receiver without him in those games.

And you have the splits. You find any side out there that has the splits. And he's putting up 15, 16, 17 points per game without A.J. Brown. And now we all talk about this offense under Sean Mannion, potentially opening things up back into the passing game with Jalen Hertz, more play action and all this type of stuff. And he's now the number one. So I think that Devante Smith in this range is why I like them. But like I said, this is almost as nitpicking as round one. I like a lot in this round.

Are you okay taking Devante Smith over both tight ends? Just generally speaking? So yes, but also because I think later in the draft, I think Loveland isn't far from them to get him at the discount. This is kind of looking ahead and jumping ahead here. But to get him at a discount of a round, round and a half in general, this is much closer than normally seen it. But to get him later at what I still think is the tier one of those three tight ends, that's why. Got it. Bob, your favorite in round three? I'll go with Bowers. And Devonthe Smith was in the conversation for me for all the reasons, Jake said, but, you know,

a little uncertain with the offense. I think Clint Kubiak showing up in Las Vegas with that, you know, Shanahan style offense is going to serve. And Brock Bowers obviously being the best player in that receiving core de facto wide receiver one. And I don't see him lasting this long. I think I was interested to see both him and McBride lasting into the third round. I don't know that I've seen that in a single draft that I've done this year, and I'm probably up close to triple digits in drafts. I have rarely seen it as well. I'm always looking for the second of those two tight ends,

whichever when I get second, I feel like it's great value. You saw Gamer Eric in the chat say that he'd be doing cartwheels if he got Brock Bowers at 30th. I would be doing cartwheels if I could get Trey McBride at 3.08. I think that that's the best value. still a McBride believer, I still think that Arizona will target him a ton. I love that it's LaFleur now calling the plays in Arizona. I'm not huge on Michael Wilson. I'm not huge on Marvin Harrison, Jr. I think McBride's the best target and after catch, well, not necessarily after catch in terms of like speed, but just power and making plays being a factor closer to the goal line. I think he's

got all that going for him. I think it would be very smart of Michael Flore to keep leaning into him. And as long as Jacoby Brissette's the quarterback, whether it's for for eight games, 10 games, 17 games, we know what his tendency is to lean into tight ends. And McBride certainly proved that last year once Brissette got into the field and in the game. I love Zay Flowers to Tallinn. I didn't like him going at 303.

I think that's maybe close to a full round too soon. As excited as I am about Declan Doyle being the new play caller in Baltimore, I still can't help but feel like there will be some spreading of the ball. We know that he's not a huge factor in the red zone near the goal line. And it's going to be a lot of big plays. And he's just, he's always been around 6.5 to 6.8 targets per game. And that's good. He's going to be good for fantasy.

He's a top 16 fantasy receiver. But I don't see him as a round three pick. So that was my least favorite pick. I see that Devante Smith went after him, Higgins, Abuka. I'll take all three of those wide receivers easily ahead of Zayflowers. Bob, do you have a least favorite pick in round three? Same as you. And I felt like until you went through your entire diatribe there, I felt like, man, I'm going to be exposed for my blind spot with Zay Flowers. I feel like I've had that since his arrival. And so, you know, you look at the numbers last year. I mean, this isn't that crazy a pick, but I don't, it's my least favorite of this round. And I'll say I'm McBride, you know, I don't like paying the historic premium, you know, when a player comes off that historic season because they're hard to repeat. But I do. think that, you know, in the third round, that's pretty, pretty good value. The question is about

Bresset, he's not going to get a go one in 11 this year. He's going to need to win some games. Yeah, their schedule is impossible. I don't know if you've looked at it. I'm not going to read it to. You can go find it. Pause our video. Go find the Cardinal schedule and then come back to us. It is TUFF tough. Jake, is it three for three on Zay Flowers? No, I don't mind it as much as you guys do, but it really comes down to I'm trying to put myself in the 303 position and being like, yeah, Mattes-Smatty Higgins-A-Booka, I would agree with you. I would argue for them over him, but you know, if you feel like he has the slight edge, you're not going to get him on the way back.

That's such a slow, or a long layoff to have your fourth round pick. And so if you're thinking wide receiver there, like I'm just, I'm just trying to like give Team One a little bit of a pass there. I don't hate as much as you guys. So mine is actually more, and it only has to do because of today and what we all assumed was going to happen. It's not that I hate Trevor A. Chan. It's just the fact that Camara's still around.

And I know Camara's washed at this point. We can make the jokes of what he is. But at the same time, we're talking about A. Chan going from the Jags to the Saints. And I know the Saints impressed last year for what people thought they could do. But I would still call it a downgrade in the offense. And I still think having Camara around means that the workload we saw him get with the Jaguars will probably be similar. I know they paid him all the money.

But I think that was the money expecting of higher workload if there was no Camara. So it's just the fact that looking, this is one you just did. Looking behind him, I'll take both the Williams. I'll take Swift. I'll take Judkins. If he's healthy, that's a big question as it today. I would even probably have a tough time.

This is two rounds later. Probably have a tough time between Montgomery and E.T.N. as to today. I almost had it three for three saying his name. He almost got there. We're all getting used to it. It'll take a year for us to get it right.

But we've all got it with his younger brother and Carolina. We're already calling him for A. Chen as well. So it's interesting. Did everybody ask the brother if Travis is telling the truth? Right. I can't. Let's move forward.

Let's go to round four. We're going to give our favorite pick, our least favorite pick in round four, and then we're going to talk about the builds in round four. Here's how it shook out. The first pick of round four, and we talked about that tier break between the top two tight ends. And then Colson Loveland,

it definitely feels like Loveland is a consensus tight end three in fantasy this year. It wasn't that much. He was the first pick of the fourth round. He was followed by Kyron Williams, Garrett Wilson, Ladd McConkey, Javante Williams, Malik Neighbors, sixth pick of round four,

that's 42nd overall. Luther Burden went right after him. Terry McLaurin went right after him. DeAndre Swift, and then the round ended with Quinshot Judkins at 10, Lamar Jackson at 11, Drake May at number 12.

So two quarterbacks to end the round, a tight end to begin the round, four running backs, five wide receivers, sandwiched in between. Jake, who was your favorite picking round four? man, I love four of the first five picks. Garrett Wilson, I don't mind, but he's not the other four of the ones I love.

Loveland, like I said, I love getting the discount. I thought my projections are crazy, but the last time I thought they were crazy was when Lamar Jackson has MVP season and he ranked out as the number two quarterback. He should have been number one. I actually pushed him down. My projections, when I did him, spat out Loveland is number one. I still don't know if I would take him number one at tight end, but again, I go to that argument of I think there's a big three.

but Kyron Williams there I'm just I feel like I've done this for the past three years everybody's talking Blake Corm now well Blake Corme what if he gets 40% of the touches he had 39% last year so the 1% is going to make the difference the car the Rams are going to continue to use Kyron Williams the way they use content to continue to use him especially the goal line and one of the best all offense he's going to get the touchdowns he's going to get the touches I understand Kyron and the fear of quorum but the good news is you're not taking Kyron in the second round. You're taking them in the fourth, and I would do that every day. If you could sign me up in all of my drafts and just say, Jake, you don't have a fourth

rounder. It's always Kiron Williams. I would take that today. His PPR per game average has actually declined three straight years. Last year, it was 15.5. But if you look at the 11 games, including the postseason, when Corm was playing 30% or more of the snap. So that's lower than 40%. But there were some games where he was around 40%, a few where he was even higher. He was averaging almost 16 ppr points per game. And that was on two and a half targets per game. He had 11 total touchdowns. Touchdowns, a big part of Kyron Williams' fantasy profile.

That was my favorite pick of round four. Was it yours too, Bob? No, many aggravators have told me that's going to be a 50-50 split. Come on now. No, I do like the pick. I'm going to go with the other William. I'm going to go with Giovante. Average 19 opportunities a game, double-digit touches in all 16 games,

62 Red Zone touches fifth most among running backs. Right pretty highly in targets. is in the top 12 and in running back targets as well. So, and I think we're getting a good discount on them. I don't, you know, I know there's some Jaden Blue Buzz, but it's not like Blake Corum like Buzz. So I'm going to go in on Williams here. I like either of the Williams.

I think this was a target rich round. There's an awful lot of players. I liked a lot that went in this round. And I think, you know, Williams who finishes, what, running back 12 last year or right up, you know, right in one running back one territory. I think he's a great value here. I think this was a good value, too.

I like the Kyron Williams value. a lot more. But Giovante certainly still at the top of that depth chart for Dallas. He is also a little bit touchdown dependent. And you saw it in the first half of the year, his first eight games, 18.6 ppr points per game. Man, he was looking like he was just going to be the runaway Cinderella pick of the fantasy season. He had nine touchdowns to help him in his last eight games, only four touchdowns and 11.8 ppr points per game. The dude needs to score touchdowns in order to come through. My least favorite pick in the round, again, I agree. I agree. with you guys. I thought round four was stellar. I didn't love DeAndre Swift going at nine in round

four. I think he's more of a round five pick. It's a little nitpicky of me to say that. But I really liked a lot of the other players. I was even okay with the quarterbacks going when they went. I'm always a fan of waiting until you get a quarterback at a steal. And I felt like Lamar Jackson and Drake May with their upside and the weapons they have in their offense and certainly with what Lamar can do with his legs. Yeah, we're talking about two guys that are steals when you're getting them in round four. They're both capable of finishing his QB1. So a little bit of a nitpick to say, DeAndre Swift, but a guy who's going to be sharing carries right up there to the same level as what we talked about with Kyron Williams, except he's not guaranteed the goal line

work as much as Kyran is. And I kind of like Monongai in some ways better than Swift. Maybe it's just because I'm a Swift hater and I've never been a huge DeAndre Swift fan. And last year, he proved me wrong and I had to kind of get on board. But even so, I feel like 45th overall, just a little bit too rich for my blood. Bob, I think that you feel. Did you even have one? I, there's no one I hated. I'm going to go with Pinchot-John Jenkins because it's like the Zay Flowers kind of thing.

I just have a little bit of a blind spot for Cleveland Browns in general. You know, I'd rather, but I do think he'll have a great role. I think in Swift's case, though, the argument is, are they going to make him a more integral part of the passing attack like he was in Detroit under Ben Johnson? and I think quite a, I don't know if it's double the targets, but he got more targets. I think the bears think there's more room for him there. But he too had the good fortune of touchdowns last year, so a little bit concerning.

But I'm going to go with Jenkins. Sounds like he's healthy. They've upgraded the offensive line. Todd Munkin ran the ball like crazy in Baltimore. There's probably a lot to like about this, yet still I don't feel comfortable with it. I mean, there was a reason why he ran the ball crazy in Baltimore. Yeah, Derek Henry.

That's a pretty good reason. I don't know if that's necessarily something that's tracked with Todd Monkin over the course of his career. I'm frantically looking for my notes on it. Yeah, in 2025, eight times a running back at 15 plus PPR. That's low. For Baltimore, only eight times it happened. Derek Henry didn't have a great year until the end of last year. In 2024, it was 13 times.

Again, we're talking about Derek Henry. 2023, Baltimore. This is before Derek Henry got there. Only six times. A lot of Gus Edwards. How about that poll? Gus Edwards back in our lives, 2019 in Cleveland, eight times a running back did it.

2018 in Tampa five times. So I'll stand by my comment when he doesn't have Derek Henry, not necessarily a guy that's going to lean totally into the run game. That being said, I do think volume will work in Juddkin's favor. And it does look like he's going to be healthy to start training camp. And that's really an important thing. Jake, did you tell me who you didn't like in round four? No, and I hate this pick.

And there's only one pick in this round that absolutely hate. I don't disagree too much with either of your pick. but Malik Neighbors, there's no way I'm taking Malik Neighbors in the fourth round. I'm not taking him as a top 20 wide receiver. Actually, I'm at 26 in my rankings, and it's kind of a way of saying, I'll take him as my third. Now, let me say this, because of the team who took him, it kind of makes a little bit sense because he's the fourth wide receiver. You can afford to do that. I'm purely more looking at value if only looking at the fourth round.

And I have another six or seven wide receivers, including both the guys right behind. I'm Jalen Wadle McMillan. sneak preview on possibly loving that pick the next round. Watson and others is just like, there's just no way because there's so much uncertainty. Like, does he start in the pup? Is it six weeks? Is it four weeks?

Is it back to Saquan Barclay? And I know he was a giant at that time, but where even if he's ready for week one, we don't even see 100% of what neighbors can be until October. So I just, I hate taking him in the fourth round. That's really the issue. If I told you that he would participate in two weeks of training camp

and that from week seven on, he would average 15 on the dot, 15 PPR points per game. Where are you drafting Malik neighbors? Is this about the right spot? No, I would go one more round. I would keep him right around where I have him at like 25, maybe move him up to 22.

Again, because at that point, that's six weeks, I'll have them as my wire receiver three because a wire receiver three is going to be volatile anyway. I just don't want them as my two or to leave value, especially at running back or another position on the board to make that pick.

That's a long way to wait. The roster construction is the key here. I mean, like, it works for this team, but I think in general, if you're counting on him to be one of your frontline players, you better be ready to chill for a month or so and figure it out. Speaking of roster construction, let's talk about the builds. A lot of different ways to go about building your team this year. Is there, which pick one through 12 had the build that you like the most, Bob, from the 12 drafters in our mock?

I like Team 6. I thought he did a great job. I like to start with Smith and Jigbo, Marion Hampton, Brock Bowers, Luther Birdon, the third. We're all going to take Van Johnson's word for it and put our money on, make the bet on Luther Burden to emerge in kind of the Monro, St. Brown role in that offense. Then this is going to be a great start. I watched Luther Burden's playoff film yesterday,

because I'm just trying to get just as good of a sense as I can about how they used him late in the year. They were obviously comfortable using him late in the year as a rookie. he was getting the offense, he was getting the playing time. He had a lot of third and fourth down targets. So those money downs, those got to have it plays. Caleb went to him. And sometimes it worked out and sometimes it didn't. I didn't love his physicality.

There were times in the Green Bay game where defensive backs were just absolutely mauling him in his route and the play was over. Like he couldn't get off press coverage. I don't know if he's got the strength to consistently improve on that and be better at that. But boy, the speed, the quickness. I think he's got good hands. Obviously, that's an offense that's going to throw a lot. There were a lot of layup targets for him, those easy short throws.

And he can make guys miss, man. He's got that agility that can help him make the first guy miss, and that adds yardage after the catch. That encouraged me on Luther Burden. It's why he wasn't even close to being the worst pick in this round and why I'm comfortable taking somebody who really didn't have a great stat line and only had a few highlight plays throughout the course of the season going in round four. So I get where you're coming from.

And I like that build, too. It wasn't my favorite. Before I tell you my favorite build, Jake, which one was yours? Oh, Matt, SF 49, the 49er fan, UK. Sounds like from the overseas. It sounds like Pick 11 in our mock. Yeah, yeah. So pick 11, Jefferson, Higgins, and then Barclay and Kyron.

I mean, I went on and on about, like, getting Kyron as your two after you already had three picks in Jefferson and Higgins and Barkley. And I know, like, we talked about Jefferson earlier in their show. but if Kyler is even 90% Kyler, that's still 100% better than anything they threw out there last year and to get Jefferson back to being top 10 wide receiver with Higgins, who, if healthy, is top 15. And then Barclay and Kieran, I like, I would take that start every time. You can tell me if I'm cheating here or not. But we talked about already the receivers that we would take over Zayflowers, if we could do this draft again. Devante Smith, T. Higgins, Emeka, Bucca, not necessarily in that order.

but if I can get Team 3 that got Bejean at 3, Niko in round 2, a different wide receiver than Zayflowers in round 3, and then even Quinshan in round 4, I'm good with that build. I like the idea of running back and then the best two receivers you can find because that position gets a little murky by the time you get to round 6 and round 7. And then your second running back, I think that it's fertile ground for good RB2s once you get to round number 4.

So I don't mind that build. I also don't mind. You don't have to be balanced, but when you are balanced after four rounds, it just gives you leeway to go in any direction you want, and especially best player available. If you're doing value-based drafting, you've got the opportunity to pick great values after round four.

So I'm a big fan of what Team 3 did. As far as a build that I hated and how I wouldn't want to start my team a certain way, I didn't like pick 9, taking three running backs to begin their draft. and then look at the wide receivers that they had. It was only Ladd-McConkie. I know we're supposed to only look at the first four rounds. But when you start your draft with three running backs,

and yeah, it's two flex. You can start all three, and that's fine. I feel like you're going to leave yourself short, and it's kind of like a zero wide receiver build. I don't know if we can necessarily say that with Ladd, but I don't view Ladd as a hero wide receiver. So unless the team drafting at Pick 9 thought that Brees Hall was a scorer, was a screaming value in round three.

I just, I don't like it at all. And I don't know if I'd even love it if it was Kyron Williams that he took in round three. Yeah. I could definitely see, yeah, I could definitely see, especially because if you look at it, like I think we'd all feel better about that team with Gentie Cook, Higgins McConkey, Ibuka McConkey, like something like that, just for the balance. That was just jump in and say the one that I hated the most was for twofold, is actually pick four, Nakuwa and then Walker, Jacob Swift.

and it's not even because of the Jacobs City. I still wouldn't love it if we knew Jacobs was playing the full season. It's the fact that I hate when people have a distinct advantage of the position, and that's what you had with Nakuwa, and then you threw it out the window by not taking a Y receiver, and we are looking ahead, we're cheating, but not until round six, and we'll talk about when we get to it who's second Y receiver is,

but you've basically thrown away your value in NACUA. You had an advantage over at least 10 teams, and now you don't at Y receiver because you went running back, running back, running back, running back. And it's not even the best collection of running back. So I just, I don't, I love the first round. I just don't love how you consistently made that roster behind them. A simple yes or no here, Jake.

Nico Collins, George Pickens, Chris Olavay, how many of those receivers would you have taken over Kenneth Walker in round two? All three. Okay. Interesting that it's all three. Bob, same question to you. Same answers, all the same answers. Same receivers ahead of Walker. also the same thing about the build, right?

And like I'll say that I feel like the recovery was pretty good, you know, once we got the later rounds and I like some of those players. But I'm with Jake. I think, you know, you get Puga-Dakua and then you forget the position. It's like a hero wide receiver doesn't work for me. What also didn't work for you? Is that just your answer? Is that Team 3 blew it?

No, it was this team 4, Raul's team? Oh, Team 4, my bad. Yeah. No, I, like, I'm not, I just, I don't know that I love the values of the running backs either. I think there are players I would have taken ahead of each of them in each round that were available. So, yeah, I think that's more of the problem. I don't like the build in general. I think that's, I think the way Jake laid it out is probably the problem for me.

And if we look into the fifth round, go another running back, that kind of adds to it. I want to give props to everybody who drafted for not reaching for quarterback and for not drafting a quarterback in a, a tight end on the same team in the first four rounds. You really shouldn't do it in the first five rounds. One of the teams did. But it's just one of those little nitpicks that I have. There are so many good running backs and wide receivers. It's okay to take one quarterback or one tight end.

I don't like it when a team takes two with their first five picks, but not reaching at quarterback or tight end. In fact, there was great value at tight end, especially with Bowers and McBride, props to the 12 drafters that did that. Let's move forward with round five. And we're just going to do the same. in round five that we did in the first four rounds.

Favorite pick and least favorite pick. Here's who went in round number five. Tedaro and McMillan, got a feeling we're about to hear about him. That's 49th overall, followed by Bucky Irving at 50th. I wonder if we're going to hear about Bucky. Jalen Wattle at 51st. That's the third pick. David Montgomery, Travion Henderson,

Joe Burrow after that. Those are your first six picks of round five. Bachel Tootin makes an appearance at 55th overall. That's the seventh pick. Christian Watson, Devante Adams after him. A couple of tight ends. after that, Tyler Warren and Sam Leporta go in late round five, the last pick of round five,

DJ Moore now of the Buffalo Bills. Jake, Teddaroa McMillan, your favorite pick? I'll let you guys out of the one, so I'll speak about somebody else because I feel like that's the easy one. I think we're all going to love Tedero in that spot. So I'll throw out David Montgomery, and again in the fifth round.

It's not that, you know, I think Dave Montgomery is going to be a top 12 running back. But we're walking into a situation that was able to produce one of the most efficient running backs in Woody Marks still having RB2 value because of the workload given. And what we all expect, I know it could go sideways still, but we all expect this team is going to look better on offense this year. I think the touches are there. I think we're going to be looking at 260 plus.

Do I think it's 300? No, but it would shock me if he got to 300. And then if he does get to 300, even if it is volume reliant, 300 touches for the Texans will have you pushing that RB1 conversation. So I think it's just about the fact that Montgomery and the first. fifth is basically like where we always should have been having Montgomery for the longest time, even when it's with the bears. And now you can take them there and get that upside. And like I said, I was more so leaving it for you guys to wax poetically about

Tetaroa in the fifth round. Bob? I'm not going to wax point. I'm not either. Wow. I'm going to go with the best goal I'm back in all football, Mr. Devante Adams. He's been consistently productive over the course of time. Fourteen touchdowns and 14 games last year. Pook and a it doesn't get the goal line looks. You look at, what, 27 ends O targets, nine more than any of the player last season. And so, finished, what, wide receiver nine overall?

That was his ninth, top 10 finish in 10 seasons. I didn't see signs of slowing down other than the missed games, and I'll deal with those if I have to. I love that pick. I am on par with Montgomery. I'm on par with Tedroa and McMillan. My favorite pick in round three was Jalen Waddle. And people who've been watching FFT since March,

know that I love the landing spot for Waddle in Denver. I do think it signals him being the alpha number one receiver there, seven targets per game as a floor. The touchdowns I worry about, Coral and Sutton's still there. They've got some guys that can work at the goal line. Bo Nick's can use his legs. So that's a step back. But we've seen Jalen Waddle win at all three levels in many different ways over the course of his career in Miami. And he's had really bad quarterback play the last couple of years. And he's been overshadowed by Devon A. Chan. Tyree Kill. And I don't think there's anybody overshadowing him in Denver. So I think he's just

landed in a great, great opportunity. He's actually my favorite pick in round five. And I know I'm going to be able to get him in round five in a lot of my leagues. I view him as a wide receiver too. That's my favorite pick in round five. But there were some picks in round five

that made all of us go blah. And they were gross. And I don't know if there was one that was really that bad for me. There were a couple that were just like, eh, I don't think I could do that. And for me, was Sam Leporta. I just think he's a round six pick. It felt like you were reaching a little bit. Maybe you could tell me

that the team at Pick 11 took Laporta then because he thought that maybe the team at Pick 12 would take him, but why would the team at Pick 12 take him if they had already taken Colson Loveland at the top of the fourth round. So he could have waited until round six. He could have taken Jane Daniels in

round five. I guess I would have been kind of okay with Daniels in round five, but either way, I just feel like it was a little too soon for Sam Leporta. I did like a lot of the picks in this round to be fair. Bob, do you agree? Was this a good round for fantasy managers or were there some picks that made you go blah? Nothing made me go blah. I mean, I felt like all these I could defend all of them.

If I was looking to nitpick a little bit, Sam Leporto would be one. I might nitpick on Christian Watson a little bit, just wondering what the roles are going to be there. This year, Jaden Reed becomes the best receiver on that team, even though he's already the best receiver on that team, just not recognized as such. Oh, no. So that'd be the question. Like all these other, you know, like facial Tutin, I mean, you could make the argument that you're getting a great value here if he takes over the lead role or he's the primary back here. So, yeah, I don't have a lot of complaints about this round in general, but Le Porta might have been a little too early. I wonder if the training camp hype really gets out of control on Tutin, he ends up being a fourth round pick because people just get over excited over the,

the devil the devil they don't know. And there's a pretty good track record. It's short, but it's a good track record of running backs under Liam Cohen, blowing up and having a big year, Travis Echan last year, um, bucky, every year before that, sure.

And once upon a time in college, it was Chris Rodriguez. He had like 1400 total yards, a bunch of touchdowns at Kentucky, totally different game, different level of competition, but still you saw the running back get a lot of work. Uh, Jake,

who you hate it on? I don't, Hate it, hate it, but I'd say Joe Burrow. I just don't want to be taking this pick knowing. And again, some of it's probably hindsight for the people in this draft, but knowing that there was similar quarterback values, in my opinion, round, two rounds later. And that's just really what it comes down to.

It's hindsight e, but also when you knew that weight came after Alan May and Jackson, I just don't want to be the first person to pull the trigger on that. And like I said, it's nitpicky, but I just don't love Burrow there. I get it. But the fact that we like a lot of the picks in round five are at bare minimum, in the case, from my perspective, and I'm sure the other guys too, Montgomery, McMillan, at least it's on par, this was a good round. And I think you could expect a lot of these picks to be there in your drafts when you get to round

five, assuming that training camp hype doesn't go out of control one way or the other for any of these guys. So let's close the door on round five. Let's open the door on round number six, which started with Jamison Williams, excuse me, It says Jay Williams in our draft room. I should have looked to see if it was a wide receiver from Detroit. Jamo, first pick around six, followed by Jaden Daniels. Judarian Price, third. Mike Evans, fourth.

Cardinal Tate fifth, Tony Pollard. The sixth pick, 66th overall, Tony Pollard with Tennessee. So a couple of Titans back to back. Alec Pierce, he'll play the Titans twice this year if he's healthy. He went seventh. Jalen Warren, eighth. Parker Washington, ninth. That's another AFC South player.

Romo Dunes 8 10th, Marvin Harrison, Jr. 11th, and Chuba Hubbard, running back at the Carolina Panthers, last pick of round 12. Jake, who do you love? It's funny. Now we're getting to the range where it's like, oh, I like one third. I don't really like one third of them. Yeah, yeah, round five was all puppies and rainbows and unicorns. And now we're in the gutter. I would say my favorite, and I might be on an island. It seems like I am so far with this opinion, but I think it's kind of weird. than I am is I love Jaden Daniels here. And I say that to say

the island is, it was weird to me that we're drafting Jaden Daniels as a top three, top four quarterback last year, after what he did as a rookie, and knowing the rushing potential, and knowing that this offense might do more than just one thing now that Kingsbury is not at the helm. And everybody's just like,

I don't want Jaden Daniels anymore. And so I get it. If you don't want an injury risk quarterback, fine, then why are we still doing it with Lamar Jackson? So I just look at the upside of somebody who could if he finished as the number one fantasy quarterback, I wouldn't bet on it, but I don't think it would absolutely shock and floor everybody.

To get him in the sixth round, I think that's great value. He definitely has the upside. Bob, is he your favorite too? No, I'm going to be the old people supporting old people. Come on down by Kevin's.

I think we're totally dismissing the history of production. Granted, injuries, age, new location. We're talking about a guy who's been wide receiver two or better in 11 of his 12 seasons, including six wide receiver one finishes. He's going to be the alpha receiver at a Kyle Shanahan offense. I know he's not an ideal fit for this offense. Clay Kubiak, though, saying all the great things,

saying they want to feed him when he's in single coverage. And I do think Brock Purdy has shown he's capable of throwing to big receivers over the middle. So maybe that compensates a little bit for the less than perfect fit. But I think we're basically paying for the floor and totally ignoring the super high ceiling. I'll give you a stat you'll love and a stat you'll hate on Mike Evans. The stat you'll love. It's the one I love. We think that he's probably going to play a lot in that Joanne Jennings-type role.

Joanne Jennings had nine touchdowns in 15 games last year. About one every six catches. That's pretty badass. The fantasy production at the end of the day didn't match because he didn't get a ton of targets. And that's where the bad news is, 49ers history, just four wide receivers have seven or more targets per game in Shanahan's nine-year, 10-year, in San Francisco. And only two of those four average 15 plus PPR points per game. All them at 13 plus PPR points per game. I think if you're drafting Mike Evans here and you're expecting 13 PPR points per game,

you'll be good to go. You'll be happy with that. So I don't know if that's my favorite pick. I'm falling for Parker, Washington guys. And you can try and talk me out of it and say that Brian Thomas Jr. is going to be the new alpha in Jacksonville. But I just love the way he improved as the season went on. And now he had that rhythm and chemistry with Trevor Lawrence.

There's a lot of mouse feeding that offense. We don't know how good that run game is going to be. I think Washington proved that he, He can work all three levels of the field. He might be relying on the first two levels. I don't know how many huge plays he's going to have, but I think the target volume is going to be there for him again. He was my favorite pick in round number six.

My least favorite pick in round number six was Jalen Warren. I have absolutely no idea how the backfield is going to split up in Pittsburgh. I've talked about it on FFT before, but Rico Dowdell was brought into the NFL by Mike McCarthy. He had a major injury. Mike McCarthy did not cut him with an injury settlement. He led him rehab. And then eventually, Mike McCarthy gave him his first opportunity to play in the NFL and

Dowled and disappointed. It earned him a contract in Carolina. And now here he is reuniting with McCarthy. He's going to know what McCarthy wants from his run game. And his stats, his efficiency metrics were almost on point, if not a little bit better, depending on which stat you're looking at, as Jalen Warren. I don't have a problem with Warren. I just think taking him in the sixth round was a little bit too soon.

You guys can agree on disagree with me on that one. I do prefer whichever Steelers running back you can get. second, it's going to end up being doubtful, especially in PPR leagues. And if I end up with him later in the draft, then I'm happy with it. But I think it's just too soon to take Jalen Warren. Bob, your least favorite pick in round six. I'm going to go with Warren as well. Although, if you wanted me to, I'd make an argument against Marvin Harrison.

Sure. Don't know that we'll see the breakout, right? I just say, again, I've, I've questions about how this team is going to fare, who the quarterback's going to be. I mean, it's going to be Jacoby Reset until it's not. all my only thought is all the success people have with Jacoby Preset, they need to realize it came on

a one and 11 record in his 12 games that's not going to stand this year. They're going to make a switch to something else and we'll see how that works out. So I don't love Harrison, but the bigger point that you made, I always feel great in drafts when I come out with the cheaper option in these situations

across the board, right? Like, I mean, just whatever it is, if I feel like I'm getting the discount, I'm super happy about it. So And I think if you look at this round in particular, like Chuba Hubbard, I'm going to feel the same about him. If I come away with a ton more Jonathan Brooks, I'm going to feel super good about that. I'm going to, well, I think the price has changed on Rashad White and Jacori Kroski Merritt. But getting white cheaper for a while, I loved.

I'm taking a ton of Andre Stevenson way later than Trayvion Henderson, just because I am, I mean, I think the Patriots would agree with me. So I like the cheaper half of these deals, these packaged deals. there's a lot of ballgame left between now and late August on all of those backfields. So there's a lot that we have to learn. Jake, spew some venom. Who do you not like in the runs? Well, we can make it three for three on Warren. Actually, to everything you said, I just said on a podcast yesterday and the fact that I actually

think even if you just take it at phase value, that dattle fits slightly better than Warren does in the McCarthy offense. The only pushback that I've seen, and I would kind of agree with, is that because it's Darren Rogers, you do want the better pass blocker. And Warren is shown to be a definitively better pass blocker. But, I mean, if that breaks the tie, then I'll happy to be wrong. I want the biggest thing you guys said, I want the discount. I'll take whoever's going later.

Anytime we have a messy backfield, give me the discount guy. I will bullet point real quick. Agree with you on Parker, Washington. I do think that it's just, it's Trevor Lawrence's style. It's the Liam Cohen's offense style. By the time Brian Thomas is 15 yards downfield, Lawrence has already made a decision eight out of ten times. And it's not Brian Thomas.

So that one, I'll give you. the one more, one little pushback. I don't hate Harrison as much as you guys, mostly because here's what it is. If you told me Brissette was starting 17 games, I don't care about the win-loss. It's just, does he start 17 games? Because he actually treated Harrison as the one in those starts with a healthy Michael Wilson. So, I'm not saying it's a breakout, but now we're taking Marvin Harrison at the end of the sixth round. I'll invest in that, but you're also investing hoping, I agree with you on this part,

that Brissette is actually the quarterback for the game. the full year. Yeah, that could be a problem. And again, we're drafting, it's the same thing that I said about Mike Evans. If you're drafting these guys hoping that they finish in the top 12 at their position, I don't know if they can do that. But can they be startable? Certainly wide receiver threes, maybe wide receiver twos. Yeah, I think they can do that. And I guess round six is okay. We're going to take a break. And then we're going to do round seven, round eight, and our favorite teams from this mock draft. Stay tuned. Instacart lets you get groceries just the way you like, with no markups at select retailers.

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So I think Adam Azers job is pretty safe. But I digress. Round seven, three tight ends to start round seven. I'm going to give you the names. I'm going to give them to you an alphabetical order before you actually, this is for the listeners, because everybody can watch it. And Jake and Bob have already seen it.

But Harold Fanon, Tucker Craft, Kyle Pitts. Those were the first three. quickly rank them for yourselves. Go ahead. We'll wait. All right, we're done waiting. Here's how they went in our draft. Pitts first, Tucker Craft second, Harold, Fan, and third. They were followed by, Wondale Robinson, Rico Dowdell,

went to the same team as Jalen Warren in this draft. Interesting. Brian Thomas Jr. went with the sixth pick in the round. Then we had J.K. Dobbins, Jalen Hertz, Jordan Tyson. One of those things is not like the other. R.J. Harvey, Quentin Johnston, and the last pick in the round. round was Chris Godwin. Jake, who'd you love from round seven? Uh, so initially I was going to be like, oh, wow, Fanon, because I think he could lead the team and targets and be the number one option, even as questionable as that quarterback situation will be. But then at the chance that we get

Kraft 100% for week one, uh, like Kraft at this point, uh, even if this is a little bit different than neighbors, because Kraft, if we knew was 100%, he'd be going up there by like Loveland. But we're getting a three, four round discount on those other tight ends, because we don't know for sure. And that's where similar to it was my argument for neighbors. If I was getting that kind of discount, this is one I would do every single time. Because if I have Kraft and I missed for the first two weeks and play fill in off the waiver wire, no problem. I'll throw out my second favorite is that I do think that Dobbins is going to be the same problem again. But Harvey's gotten so much hate now at this point because everybody's afraid of Dobbins and Sean,

he's now at the end of the round seven. Like they really think Dombins is going to make it through the whole year and like John Jonah Coleman short like whatever how many times do we have to do the Sean Payton rookie running back experience where like I just I'll take R.J. Harvey in the fourth round you guys remember this two months or three months ago now that's been this summer's flying by before the draft when he was going there like that was that was too much but now that everybody has gone complete 180 on him now I'm invested in R.J. Harvey. I've seen him go later than this. I've seen Harvey go later than than round seven in mock drafts and just quick point of reference on Tucker Kraft before he got hurt.

14.7 PPR points per game. Hold on on five and a half targets per game. Whereas Harold Fanon finished the year, 11.7 PPR points per game, still nothing to sneeze at a tight end. He had 6.7 targets per game. And so here we are coming off of the season where Kraft was just way more efficient. One of the most efficient tight ends that you could have asked for in fantasy. And he's going in the same spot as Harold Fanon.

I think if we love where. Tucker Kraft is at physically, and the reports are glowing out of Green Bay. And then you tack on to that, the fact that Romeo Dobbs is out of there, who all the Dantavian Wix is out of there. They've consolidated the receiver room a little bit. Yeah, you could see Tucker Kraft making a meteoric rise in round seven would absolutely be a gift. Bob is a tight end. Your favorite pick in round seven?

Yes, and it is craft, and I've done some math. You're welcome. That's usually not my strong point, but let's go with this. Are we sure this math is correct, Bob? I'm relatively certain this math is close. Like the Packers have a pretty conservative training staff, and they follow some rigid procedures. Christian Watson tore his ACL January 5th, 2025,

return to action October 26, 2025, 294-day turnaround, nine months, 21 days. Kraft, ACL torn on November 2nd, 294 days from then is August 23rd. Absolutely possible. He will be ready week one. I'm drafting it like you will be. I always worry a little bit about, players coming back from a torn ACL and it felt like Christian Watson was the exception and not

the rule. And maybe that's changing. Medicine's getting better year by year. I do have Fanon ranked ahead of Kraft. Don't hate me for it. It's in pencil. It's based on craft probably, I'm thinking anyway, getting off to a slow start. But by far, one of the better picks in round seven, I did not mind the Fanon pick. I like getting Fanon. I would take it. I don't mind any of those tight ends where they went. Yeah, I'm mind pits. I think he's terrible. Let's get to the least favorite pick of the round. I don't think Jordan Tyson is terrible. I think he's certainly injury prone. Too many injuries in college. First year in the NFL won't be the number one wide receiver. Don't see a pathway to him

getting north of seven targets per game. Don't see him with a pathway to getting to 12 ppr points per game. I felt like round seven, seven point nine, 81st overall was just too soon for Jordan Tyson. Long term, I think he's going to be really good as long as he stays healthy. But for this year, I kind of don't want him. I'm looking at him as more of like a round nine type pick. I 100% agree with that. And he is my pick. I don't like, by the way, this is, I think of all the drafts I've done, this is the first

time I've seen J.K. Dobbins go ahead of Harvey. That's not been to Norman, the drafts I've been in. And I do like J.K. Dobbins. I don't feel like this is a horrible price. But I want to go give the Cam Scataboo Junior Award to one, Dale Robinson, who I love, but don't love this price. I would like to get him where he's going closer to ADP. This is a little ahead of that.

But I do think he's in a really good spot going, showing up with his old friend Brian Davel and an offense. Look, I think Carnal Tate's going to be perfectly fine. I think this offense is going to improve a little bit. And Cam Ward is going to be a big part of that. And if he is, then Wondale Robinson is going to have another really solid year. I'm a sucker for Wondale, Bob. I love the targets per game.

And it's not just last year. It's the year before that, too. Yeah. And that was when Malignol. neighbors went crazy. And his numbers for PPR weren't great. But when we're drafting him in the middle of rounds, I don't want him in non-PPR. I'm not really cool with him in half PPR, but full PPR. If he's going to get eight targets per game, he can have a spot on my fantasy team and potentially be my number three wide receiver. He's in that range of guys that I could see getting

12 PPR points for game, not because of touchdowns, not because of yards, but because he's going to catch six or seven passes every single week. I think Tennessee's game scripts will help him out. Jake, who do you not like in round seven? with both of you and that I don't love, I don't really hate Robinson or Tyson in this range. I'd rather wait just looking at why receivers going after him. There was quite a few names that I would take before they come off the board, including Josh Downs at the end of round eight. So I'll go a little bit different. I don't love the price in Quentin Johnston.

And I know that they gave him the fifth year, but that's not a new contract. I think that's kind of plain and like, okay, if we see him build off of last year and he is this, we're getting ahead of the game so we don't have to make this huge contract decision next year. But I'm also looking, you know, and it's not that I'm scared of Brennan Thompson. It's just I know who Mike McDaniel is, and I know like what he wants to do with his wide receivers and how he schemes them. I'm not sure that Johnston fits 100 percent. And if he gets off to a slow start, and I'm not saying he can't do it in McDaniel's offense.

I just don't know if he gets off to a slow start that you start seeing Tray Harris or Thompson or other people worked in because of what Mike McDaniel does. So given that risk against, there's just other names. after him I would take before I start thinking Quentin Johnson. Last year, Quentin Johnson got off to a white hot start, a lightning bolt of a start, 19.9 PPR points per game. He had nine targets per game in his first four. And then after that, reality set in and he averaged 11.8 for the rest of the way on 6.4 targets per game. That was very much in line with his 2024 average.

So when you draft Quentin Johnston, we can make the upside case. we can make the downside case. Jake just did. I think that you think about the high 11s, low 12s, and PPR points per game as not quite the ceiling, but certainly above the norm for him. That's what you have to think about when you draft Quentin Johnston. And the other thing that I think about, and I think a lot of people overlook this when it comes to Mike McDaniel's offenses, is that he plays at a slow pay. It's so slow.

And maybe part of that had to do with Tua and that he just like he had to do everything in his power to kind of insulate Tua from taking too many hits. And maybe he changes that because he's got Justin Herbert and he's got a world class offensive line when healthy. But I do worry that Mike McDaniels is going to stick with utilizing the run game. And I think Harbaugh is going to ask him to do that and playing at that. I was going to say Harbaugh was already one of the lowest in plays per game to begin with. So like, how's it get better? I almost imagine before Harbaugh offered McDaniel the job, he said, you're going to run the ball and you're going to take it slow. You're not going to put your foot on the gas unless we're losing late in the game.

You got it. And my McDaniel spent eight minutes explaining that he got it. And then he agreed to the contract. And now here he is running the charges. But honestly, I'm glad he's there. It was my favorite offensive play caller change of the offseason, him going there. I think it's going to end up working out great, but I think it's going to end up working out great,

especially for Hampton and for Herbert. I'm still kind of unsure about McCawkey taking a big step forward, and you just heard what I had to say about Quentin Johnson. I think he'll be good, not great. Speaking of great, a word that rhymes with that is eight, and we're in round eight. This is the last round that we're going to give our favorite and least favorite picks. And it started with Jacori Kroski Merritt,

followed by Jonathan Brooks. This feels like the earliest I've seen Jonathan Brooks go to, going with the second pick in round eight. that's 86th overall. Jackson Dart, Justin Herbert, back-to-back quarterbacks after that. Mackay Lemon at 89, Rashad White after that.

That's pick 90, Kyle Munungai after him. And then the back half of round eight, Cortland Sutton, Isaiah likely, it's interesting, Ramandre Stevenson. We've talked about him.

Bob likes him. Jacobi Myers. And then the last pick round eight, I feel like on fancy football today, we talk about Josh Downs every single show. And so, like, we've all gotten real excited about Josh Downs.

I felt like this was a little bit late for Josh Downs. It was my favorite pick, especially in a full PPR. I think he can return wide receiver three value, maybe even sneak into the top 24. But I'm curious, Jake, which player was your favorite in round eight? I love almost this entire round. I just this eighth round values are just supreme. I guess it's just really if you're picking the guys that we like. I think Jonathan Brooks is starting not quite.

Like you said, it's kind of the earliest I've seen too. but I think that the biggest question with him is, if he's 100% the talent we knew, he could take the job without an injury. And I think that's why people are drafting them. So I think there's going to be a breaking point, though. Like another round, round and a half,

and now it's like you're buying basically, it happens within weeks, not even, you know, halfway through the season. So I think the DART value is great just because if he actually stays healthy, I mean,

it's weird that all these sites, and I'm not even coming for CBS, every site does it. Every site counts the first two games. that he stepped on the field. He stepped on the field for like five plays. If you take those two games out, he averaged 20 points per game. He was a top five quarterback. So the injury risk is real, but I think the upside of Jackson Dart is real as well. White, Magnong guy could take the job. I wouldn't bet on it, but it wouldn't shock me if that happened. So yeah, I'm just going to

talk to Josh Downs. I brought him up earlier. I said sneak preview. I think Josh Downs, people are kind of overlooking that he's going to be the number two. And he's had blips of being the number two when asked and at times has shown that he has the upside to be the guy, actually thought you go all the way back to Anthony Richardson, and he had games where you saw, oh, wow, you know, Josh Downs, if he had the volume, could be the guy. So with the volume being there, and this is with or without Daniel Jones, you're basically Wondell Robinson, in my opinion,

at a round and a half discount and possibly even better. So the receivers that went in round five, Jake, Wondale, Brian Thomas Jr., Jordan Tyson, Quentin Johnston, Chris Godwin. How many of those receivers would you be okay taking ahead of Josh Downs? Two. And it's like only because Godwin sounds like he's 100% healthy. It's finally. Like I don't think we finally saw him for last year.

But if you wanted to argue downs over Godwin, I would say, okay. And then, you know, I would take Thomas just in case we're wrong. Just because the pure innate talent of Thomas is what it is. and what if Colin's like, you know what, that was stupid of me. Maybe I'll use him in the slot some. Maybe I'll treat him as the number one as he can be. Because if Thomas gets back to 120 targets,

even with Lawrence, I mean, we're talking about the talent is better than anybody on that team. It's just whether or not a click. So, but downs. And again, if you want to take downs over, I'll put it this way. I'm going to kind of reverse your question here. If you took downs over all of them,

I wouldn't say you're crazy. I would agree. Mr. Harris, are you down with downs? Yes, I am down with downs. I think what we've, from the talk we've heard, leading into heading into training camp, Shane Steck and talking about using him inside and outside.

I think that's going to enhance his value. I know people who cover the team talking to, you know, the beat writers on the regular. I know James Boyd from the athletic has been really high on him the last couple of years. And the role just hasn't quite materialized. I think the vacated targets with Michael Pittman gone work in his favor.

There's a lot to like in this round. And I think when you look at the round overall, you could say, This is like, depends on how your roster is constructed, what player you might like the best here. Like if you needed a solid running back too, hello, Ramandre Stevenson, I would take him running back 22 last year on a points per game basis. I think this is a nice discount. Jonathan Brooks, if you have some really solid starters ahead of him and you want to swing for that upside play, as Jake said, maybe, you know, one of the most talented back in the draft the year he came out if he would have been healthy.

So, I mean, there's a lot of Rashad White, super solid receiving asset. Could he gain the starting role? Yes, I like that he went cheaper than Jacori Kroski-Maric. I'm not against our guy, Bill. I just haven't seen it more than a couple games, right? Right. Splashes. Yeah, it's been splashes.

And now they're asking him to put on weight, Bob. Right. That's always a little bit of a tell. So, so, yeah, probably my favorite pick here. Like, another swing for the fence guy might be Isaiah likely there. If you think that he can finally make use of his talent, freed from the specter of the great Mark Andrews looming over. him apparently. He never could move ahead of him. So I'm a little bit toward. Jake might be right.

Jackson Dart might be the best value of this bunch if he plays at last year's level and can stay on the field. Darts sure liked throwing to his tight ends last year too. 22.8% target rate to tight ends. Nine career games for Isaiah likely when he's had at least six targets, 12.5 or more PPR points in eight of the nine games. My goodness, if he averaged 12 and a half PPR points, then he would help you win. accident that he was brought over, right? I think John Harbaugh, this is not a coincidence that John Harbaugh. And the same of Patrick Ricard, by the way, thank you for Scam Scataboo. I mean, these are, these weren't happy coincidences. But if John Harbaugh brought Isaiah

likely over, I would ask Harbaugh, what the hell happened? Why didn't you use likely more? Mark Andrews happened. Well, all right. And I guess that's part of it. But you could still run an offense where both those guys would do fairly well. There were just so many games. where Isaiah likely left us holding the bag. And I think that's why he's going as late as he's going. I like getting him as a settle four tight end. I've got him as a top 10 tight end. I do think he's got upside.

But he wasn't my favorite pick in the round. Downs was. Lemon was my least favorite pick in the round, which it stabs me in the heart. I have a pen. I'm going to stab myself in the heart. I hurt myself. Oh, my God.

I literally took a pen and hit myself in the heart. I love his talent. I don't see the Eagles offense support. two wide receivers and a tight end. I just don't think they'll throw the ball enough. I love Smith too much. Hertz is still a top five type of fantasy quarterback. Lemon's a great talent, but not at 100% in OTAs.

Hopefully he'll be 100% for the start of the season. I'm sure he will go through some rookie struggles. He will be a good fit for what they're doing. I just don't want it. This is too soon for me. He's in that same range as Jordan Tyson. I'm thinking about him in round nine, round 10.

I would not take him here. Bob, quickly, your least favorite pick in round eight. It was also 11 easily, by far. I mean, of all the picks here, I could probably make an argument for Crosky Merritt if you wanted me to pivot off your guy, just because like the hype was so insane last year. I know talking to a lot of the writers who were responsible for some of that hype, you know, some of them have pretty good reasons. Like, you know, I think Ben Standing told me he thought that in season that one of the big problem

for Crosky Merritt was that Jane Daniels and Terry McLaurin weren't on the field, right? And then if all the pieces were there, this would have been great. And, you know, I can't say he was wrong. I just don't know that I'm buying into it. Jake? Yeah. I actually don't mind the Mikey Lemon pick, but I've been on the record of being a Lemon supporter

and what this offense can do under the changes. That being said, what you said actually concerns me, Dave, is that the health, like a rookie not being able to get on the field. And if this continues all the way into the season and he doesn't get a ton of practice time, you have to move him down and not take him in the eighth round. So outside of that, I feel like Jacobi Myers is the odd man out. Like, I just, like, I know he's been great and reliable and he's always there and he's always overlooked for his entire career. But it's like if we're wrong on Parker Washington, repeating, and it is Brian Thomas or if it's Brian, like either way you look at it, it's just like, it just feels like he's always the third on that team.

And so like I just don't see where the value is. He feels like one of those picks in this round where it's like, hey, I can use him during the by week. And if that's a pick, then I don't want it because where's the seal. But James Gladstone told me his super. Power was catching the football. Come on. That's important for a shocker. Definitely important, but I feel like almost every wide receiver has that superpower.

Brian Thomas, not so much last year. Yeah, Mary, not in Jacksonville. All right, if we kept doing this for rounds nine through 14, people wouldn't listen and we'd be wasting our time. So let's just go to it and talk about which team was our favorite team after the first day round. So put your blinders on. Don't look at round nine or later. If you guys listening want to see who was taken round nine beyond. Go to YouTube.com.

Search for fantasy football today. You can come and find our video. You will see the draft board. It is beautiful. It is on the screen. You can pause it as many times as you want. You can write it down until your heart's content. You will see who went in rounds nine through 14.

And there are a lot of sleepers in there. We're just not going to be able to get to them today. But your favorite team through eight rounds, Bob Harris, which one is it? I think it's dropped back like it's hot. What number is he? He's nine. That's pick. Pick number nine.

Yeah, I think I'm going to go with that just because I like the late run of. So James Cook, great value. Breece Hall, I'm more in on. I think that the world, I was arguing with Howard Bender about this last night. You know, like, oh, they're telling us he's going to be in a 300 monster. They told us that last year when it seemed way more realistic with Tanner Extract coming over to say that they're going to copy that Detroit offense. And then what do we see Bruce Hall get the most carries of his career? And they just paid a $43 million like that.

like the wide receivers here, love the Adams Evans picks. I'm all overlooked to Tyson, but think he fared well with Justin Herbert. George Kittl could be a top five tight end once he's back on the field. That comes after week five. So a lot to like their Bo Nix. Some of the backup players are fine. But I like the top of that roster. All right.

At some other point, we're going to have to debate Breece Hall because I'm not speaking of a fan on him. We're just not going to do it today. It's his third running back. Yeah, I get it. But there were also some really good wide receivers who could have taken in. Maybe Brice could have made it back to him. in round number four. Not if he's drafting with me.

Not if he's drafting with me, but you weren't in this draft, Bob. You were doing who knows what. You're a maniac. I don't even want to know what you were doing. Jake, you're less of a maniac. You are a much more rounded, civilized man.

Which team was your favorite? Yeah, I was thinking I might go back to the 11th pick with Matt S.F. But Team 12 made a real push for it. And just by having Loveland, where he does, and Godwin is his fourth wire receiver, Kroski, Merritt.

There's a mix of that backfield maybe he wins out as your third running back. But it ended up being the third pick, surprisingly enough, by the time we got to this point. Because the Bejohn-Judkins-Stevenson as your third, which might still be the better value as we saw at the back half of last year than Trevor John Henderson. I don't think a lot of people are banking on that happening, but another one that wouldn't completely shock us. And then your fourth wide receivers are Dunez with one of your favorite picks, which I agree with with Jalen Wadle. So you have Collins Flowers. Even if you don't love flowers, Waddle-O-Dunzee, you're arguing that you could have the best,

quartet of wide receivers. As Malik Neighbors was healthy, that team would, but that's an amazing group to have also Fanon already at your tight-end position with those other weapons. And I know we're not looking later into his draft, but he addresses as a quarterback position, which a potential QB1, I think through eight rounds that the third pick is looking really good. I liked team three. But I think the team that I like the most, and maybe I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth, because I'm not a huge fan of McCaffrey. I'm not a huge fan of Mackay Lemon, but it's going to be the team eight that took McCaffrey in round one. I loved the value.

What can I say? I'm a sucker for a good deal. Love the value of C.D. Lamb going with the 17th pick overall in the draft. Trey McBride, 32nd pick of the draft. Jalen Hertz, round seven pick 80 for Jalen Hertz. You're stealing from the league. It's not fair. All is fair in a fantasy draft when they let value go to you.

I don't like the lemon pick, but I like the rest of those first seven picks a lot. my favorite team was pick number eight. My least favorite team, I already talked about how much I didn't like the Drake London pick in the first round. So it's going to be pick 10. They reach for London, reach for Giordarian Price, reach for Harvey. Dart kind of a reach. I do get the upside case for him.

I do get a little bit nervous about how effective he'll be in an offense that might be a little too run heavy. That's just kind of how John Harbaugh rolls. I thought he got good value at Garrett Wilson, Tyler Warren. his team could have been James Cook in round one Lamb in two Abuka in three

Javante Williams and four Tyler Warren in five what a start that would have been and then he could have had one of Evans Tate Parker Washington in round six Bill in round seven Josh Downs and round eight I like that team the best the team that I just built and made up

I wish you picked Penn had done that I wish he would have done that but he didn't do that he went in a different direction so that's my least favorite team is what pick 10 did. I don't know how you guys feel about that or if there was another team that you didn't like. If either of you say pick eight, I'm going to fight you. Team 11, no, I thought team 11, like all these teams, like if I ended up playing with them, I would probably, you know, it would not be the worst thing that ever happened to me because I can tell you some horrible

things that have to be people. But in general, I think team 11, you know, the Justin Jefferson, I mean, I didn't love the value. Say Juan, we need them to have a big year and new offense. I mean, it's kind of uninspiring. Then we got to the Sam before. I do like the Kairn Williams pick. Like I said, there's some things I like on this, and maybe Jonathan Brooks if he comes through, but downstream even, I'm not as big a

big a fan of most of these picks, except Jake Ferguson, I love this year. People are totally missing Jake Ferguson. And if you've got, if you want to know why he likes Jake Ferguson, why he likes some of the other players that we didn't really get into, you can always find Bob Harris on Football Guys.com.

He's one of their leading analyst. your least favorite team? Yeah, I'm going to go back to the neighbors team, and I know it can work right. And basically, it is a zero R.B approach, and it could crack. Look, Tooting, if he's top 20, Pollard, if it's under Dable top 20, or Dobbin stays healthier. Rish, Rashad White is the leader that back for it. There's a lot of ifs.

But zero R.B. ish, and a lot of it banks on neighbors being 100%. You can't deny that St. Brown, A.J. Brown and Devonthe Smith is a great trio. And if neighbors is healthy, I mean, that's, then I, you know, you go zero RB with that, I have no problem with it. I just think there's a lot of questions coming out of this draft. And again, kind of cheating, but looking at how he finished out the draft, I don't think it came together perfectly.

And it really comes down to, you know, seasonal. Best Bowl, one thing, to try and go zero Rbee still these days. But seasonal when you're looking at the fact that Brian Robinson, Woody Marks, Tank Biggsby, Pacheco, manual, all there, we can't really do zero RB anymore because everybody's too smart. And they're all these guys already taken. So it's just the makeup through eight rounds. I don't love it.

And, but I'll be honest, it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be once we got to the eighth round. So it's, it's not that I actually really despise this team. It's just he gets the slight edge of the team that I like at least. That was the team I was going to go with, but I felt like, you know, for what was trying to be accomplished here, it was done well for what it was. Maybe I don't prefer this kind of build. Yeah. I wouldn't do it. But I thought the, I thought the, the Tuton Pollard, Dobbins, White, I thought that run right there.

I mean, if it, if he hits on two of. those being top 15, 16 running backs, that team's going to be one of the best. That's the playoffs. Yeah. I just don't know which, I don't even know if he's got one. Right. That's the question. Like Tootin is the one you can make the case for that he could get there. I put up a running back four seasons, sir. Yeah,

you're right. That's a good point. Anything. Over the past three seasons, number three or number four in receptions for running backs. Yeah. Yeah. He definitely has that role on lock. I don't know if Bill can catch. And also, this is a guy that Jane Daniels is familiar with. He played with him in college, et cetera, et cetera. So that connection will be there between the two of them.

Jake had so many interesting takes. You can read more on his takes at the athletic. Both these guys also have podcasts, radio shows. You can download the serious XM app and you can hear Bob there. Jake's got his own show. Jake, do you have one show or two shows? I don't even remember. One show, I guess spot on Fantasy Pros regularly,

but the one show is the all-on-speed run. I keep it to 20 minutes or less. because you're going to find that little bit of time when we're overloaded in this industry. Do you hate me that I kept you for 80 minutes? No, because you guys. We went 80 minutes. You know who's going to kill me for this? Is it Adamey.

Your producers? No. The producer's not going to be happy with me now for two things. You know what? Easer's going to kill me. He never really 100% follows through with like all the bets and stuff that you do on the show. So like he can take one of the chin. Like when he barely shaved his head that one day, Fernando.

know, like, come on. I barely shave your head. Either you do or you don't. Nando gave a ton of money to say it in Jude, if he would just cut a line in the side of his hair. And he like, and he barely did one. He can borrow one of mine.

You guys are the best. I'm so glad you came on. And I'm so glad that we were able to review this mock draft. And more importantly, there are so many takeaways that we have from, from this draft to give you, the viewer, the listener. And this is just the beginning. of fantasy draft season.

It's here. Well, it's in two weeks, but it's almost here. So I really appreciate you guys being here. And I hope you guys appreciate the knowledge that you've gotten. You're a little bit better when it comes to drafting your fantasy teams this fall. For producer Thomas Schaefer, Sammy Davis, and Bob Harris and Jake Sealy. I'm Dave Richard. This has been fantasy football today. Golly, 84 minutes.

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