Fantasy Football Today - Live 0.5 PPR Mock Draft! (07/08 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 8, 2021

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Starting point is 00:01:21 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Live mock draft time here on Fantasy Football today. These are always some of my favorite shows. I feel like we haven't done one of these in a long time. I'm Adam Azer with Jamie Isenberg. The two of us are drafting.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I have the first pick. Jamie has the 11th pick. And every other contestant today is a listener. In our Facebook group. This is why you should join the Facebook group. Just go to Facebook and search for fantasy football today. All right. So I, we already have completed a round. I paused the draft and we're going to recap the first round. This is a 12 team half PPR league with three wide receivers and a flex. We are not drafting kickers or defenses. We are going 14 rounds, eight starters,
Starting point is 00:02:06 six reserves. It is half PPR. McCaffrey, Cook, Kamara, Derek Henry, Travis Kelsey, five Zeke Barkley,
Starting point is 00:02:16 Jonathan Taylor, Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill. Jamie took Nick Chubb and then Austin Eckler was the 12th pick. Jamie, any reaction? I mean, look, I see Kamara go ahead of Derrick Henry. I think that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:02:29 In half PPR, I see Travis Kelsey, fifth overall, ahead of Zeke and Barkley and Jonathan Taylor, et cetera. What do you think about the first round? Anything really jump out at you? No, nothing really. I mean, you know, I think a lot of people may be surprised to see Zeke over Barkley. And I guess in full disclosure, we say, you know, you're picking for that team.
Starting point is 00:02:49 So you made that selection. I did, yeah. So I guess you can explain that. But I like it. I would take Zeke over Barkley myself. Right. We had one listener who was having trouble getting in and was unable to join us, Adam. His name is Adam.
Starting point is 00:03:03 So I just figured, hey, whatever, I'll draft for him. But actually, Schrager, you can also draft for him if you want to do that. We can share the team. So why did I take Zeke over Barkley? I think we need to see a little bit more about Barkley right now. I think we've got to see where he's at in week one and training camp and all that. Still a little bit of an unknown as we draft here on July 7th.
Starting point is 00:03:22 You're listening to it on July 8th. It just feels like with both those guys in particular, and you factor in Jonathan Taylor, because I think he's the one and he went right after them. Those are the three that people are thinking are going to get stuck on. Because I think their first four are easy. In any format.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I think it's going to go McCaffrey, Cook, Henry, Kamara. Yeah. And as a guy who's said, who's at least made the case for Kelsey third. I'm not talking about Kelsey because that's a different conversation. I'm just talking about the running back. So take Kelsey out of the equation. If you want to go Kelsey or any of the receivers, that's totally a fine selection.
Starting point is 00:04:03 You know, if you're concerned about those three backs. Because, look, Barkley, as you mentioned, when you see a little bit more, is he going to be healthy? Is he going to do great in this offense like he did as a rookie when he didn't have Daniel Jones? Is Zeke, is last year's Zeke a start of a fall off? Or is last year's Zeke just because everything around him fell apart? You know, quarterback and offensive line. And then with Taylor, he closed the season like a monster. He was an absolute star, but the quarterback is different. The offensive line is slightly different.
Starting point is 00:04:32 The, uh, backfield competition is different, you know? So there, there's some things to be potentially concerned about. I don't know if it's anything to run away from, but, um, I just feel like for me, the way, the way I'm starting to approach it, Zeke seems like, with everybody back, the safest bet. Yeah. Because you know what he's capable of. You're betting on the Cowboys offense, right? That's part of it.
Starting point is 00:04:56 You're betting on the Cowboys offense. Now, you could say I'm betting on the Colts offense, which was great for Taylor last year. But I think the Cowboys offense is better. And you say, I'm betting on Barkley to be rookie Barkley, but what if he's not? And he's coming off an injury. Dak throws to Zeke.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Dak throws the ball to Zeke a lot. We are resuming the draft now. Nick Chubb was Jamie's pick, then it was Eckler, and the Hoff who took Eckler, and that would be Mike Hoff, took Cam Akers as well, so he starts RBRB. I want to just say this about Kelsey. You've heard me at least make the case.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I'm not saying I'd take Kelsey third. I'm just saying there's a case to be made. I don't feel that way in non or half PPR. For me, that is strictly a full PPR thought because I'm comparing Kelsey to these risky running backs. Well, the big advantage that he has over them is catches. You need that full point for me to even think about him. I wouldn't take him fifth. I would have taken Zika.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I would have taken Barkley. I would have taken Taylor over him if I had had that choice. But he went one pick before I made the pick for the Adam who was not there. Jamie took Aaron Jones. So you start with Nick Chubb and Aaron Jones. I mean, that's just a terrific start. Let me see. I think we had an auto pick there,
Starting point is 00:06:05 so I'm going to back that pick out. But yeah, you got to be pretty happy about that, Nick Chubb and Aaron Jones. What do you like better, Chubb and Jones or Eckler and Akers? Because that's the comparison here. Team with the 11th pick is Jamie that has Chubb and Aaron Jones,
Starting point is 00:06:21 and the 12th pick, Eckler and Cam Akers. I like Chubb and Aaron Jones better and the 12th pick, Eckler and Cam Akers. I like Chubb and Aaron Jones better. If this was full PPR, I would have taken Eckler over both. I just think that he's got a little bit of a higher ceiling based on his catches. But with the half PPR scoring, it would not surprise me if Nick Chubb, as we've seen each of the last two seasons, two years ago, more prominently because of his health, that he could challenge to be the rushing leader. And Aaron Jones, as we've seen, could be, you know, top five running back each of the last two seasons. If Aaron Rodgers is there, Aaron Jones will be ranked higher for me.
Starting point is 00:06:59 You know, so. Ah, that's why you took. OK, is the Rodgers factor. That's why you took Chubb over him. Yes. Yes. But this is PPR. I would have taken Jones over Chubb.
Starting point is 00:07:10 OK, we had some some interesting picks here. We had DK Metcalf go after Aaron Jones, then Stefan Diggs, Joe Mixon, DeAndre Hopkins off the board. So Metcalf doesn't even go early. It's different. I like that because we see a lot of running backs in our drafts. Yeah, but the question is, do you really like that? Because it is half PPR. So I'm actually on the clock for the other Adam. Schrager, we can do this pick together.
Starting point is 00:07:32 We have Ezekiel Elliott. Who's on the board? I'm not going to take a tight end here. We can do Najee Harris or Calvin Ridley. Let's go Harris. All right, I like that. Yeah, I mean, PPR, I'm going... Uh-oh, I'm going to get auto-picked. That mean ppr i'm going oh i'm gonna get auto picked that's pretty embarrassing for the host of the show to get auto picked uh we will
Starting point is 00:07:50 spend i put 30 seconds on the clock for those of you listening at home so it is a little bit difficult uh to make these picks sometimes but let's back that out all right we're gonna go naji harris and that's a good call. Full PBR, I would have gone Ridley Stragger. What about you? Agreed, yeah. I would even consider A.J. Brown. Oh, okay. But yeah, that's the difference, I guess.
Starting point is 00:08:16 All right, so... You're also on autopilot for your pick. Yeah, I see. Thank you. It's a lot to do here, hosting and commissionering and whatnot. DeAndre Swift is the next pick, ahead of Antonio Gibson, ahead of Clyde Edwards-Ziller, ahead of J.K. Dobbins. What do you think about that, Jamie? DeAndre Swift.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I mean, he's polarizing. He's going to be really good if Jared Goff is good. I like the offensive line. I obviously like what I saw from him last year. I wouldn't worry too much about Jamal Williams. I think you're going to see him play, but I don't think he's going to be enough of a factor to take DeAndre Swift off the field
Starting point is 00:08:51 in the spots where you want him to be on the field and rushing goal line situations and passing down situations. He's going to have those opportunities, but just not to the level of what Swift should. It's the touchdown potential. If he's not in this... If this offense is struggling, which is good, then you can be a little concerned about how things work out for DeAndre Swift.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I would have taken Everett Solero over him personally, but it's splitting hairs with Gibson. I like Gibson slightly better. All right, the next picks after that were Darren Waller, Calvin Ridley, George Kittle. So within the first 23 picks, all three of the big three tight ends are gone. I had the first pick in the draft. I took McCaffrey. And then with my swing picks, I took Antonio Gibson and Justin Jefferson. I thank you. I was tempted to go with Dobbins. I was tempted to go Gibson and Dobbins. Edward Ziller was also on the board, so those were the running backs I was considering.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Non-PPR, I definitely would have looked for three running backs there, assuming, well, you never know how the draft plays out, who was available. But half PPR, I mean, I just, I think, I think Jefferson has potential for a lot more catches than he had last year. I heard someone compare him to, I think it may have been Heath, to A.J. Brown and D.K. Metcalf,
Starting point is 00:10:02 that they're big yards per catch, yards per catch guys, not necessarily high catch guys. Who do you think leads that trio in receptions? Jefferson. Absolutely Jefferson. Jefferson? Okay. Yeah. All right, new picks. Michael Thomas, C.E.H., A.J. Brown, Keenan Allen.
Starting point is 00:10:16 So how about this wide receiver value here? I mean, this is what we expect. This is why we don't necessarily run away from or tell people to run away from going running back, running back, because look at the receivers that you're still getting in round three. You still have guys that are just going off the board now.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Keenan Allen, A.J. Brown, like you said, Terry McLaurin, guys that are still available. Did I make a mistake here? I went with... For team six that I'm drafting for with Zeke and Najee Harris that Ben and I picked, Ben, I went with... So for Team 6 that I'm drafting for with Zeke and Najee Harris that Ben and I picked, Ben, I went with McLaurin over Dobbins.
Starting point is 00:10:49 What do you think I should have done there? I'm fine with McLaurin there. We could use our first wide receiver right there. Jamie, would you have gone McLaurin and gotten your first receiver, or would you have gone three running backs to start your draft with Zeke? Well, first, it's a little surprising that you didn't consult your co-manager and make the pick. Not enough time. That's about right that's
Starting point is 00:11:05 uh that's par for the course um i would have probably gone with mcclellan also but you know dobbins is is interesting you know i like both these guys a lot i think they're both you know high-end players that have a chance to be special um but i think as i've said you know and i'm a pro dobbins guy his ceiling is capped unless he scores, you know, 15 touchdowns, you know, because of what he'll do in the passing game. You know, I read another thing today. It was on, I think, NFL.com. They were doing breakout players in the AFC for each team.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I think that was the Athletic. I read it in the Athletic. They had the same feature, but okay. Yeah, I mean, you're going to see that a lot this time of year. So, you know, and he's the easy choice because he's got the most upside based on how he finished last season and what his potential could be. So I think he's a star,
Starting point is 00:11:53 but he's a top 15 running back kind of star, not a top five running back kind of star. Whereas McLaurin, you know how I feel about him. I think he could be a top five wide receiver. So, you know, I think his ceiling is better for what you need. Yeah. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Take going to take a pause after round three here and kind of catch up and come on, Rodrigo, make that pick. I know he's there. Oh, he made the pick. Okay,
Starting point is 00:12:15 good. Rodrigo, by the way, is picking 10th just before Jamie Rodrigo. This is not why he got in the draft. I went to college with his brother. Very cool. Cool guy.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Um, great story. Patrick, we I went to college with his brother. Very cool. Cool guy. Great story. Patrick Mahomes to JB. 35th overall. First QB off the board. He took him. All right. So you'll explain why you took him here as you're just seeing kind of the end of a tier at running back and wide receiver, I guess.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And none of the big three tight ends are available. And we will wait for Mike Hoff to make the... There it is. He made the pick. It's Amari Cooper, 36th overall all right so we're gonna just take a little break from the draft here and uh review it catch everybody up i know we're going really quickly here but i want to get as much as we can done on the air i also want to remind everybody to please nominate us on podcastawards.com just go to i put the link i'll put the link in the episode description but go to podcastawards.com. I'll put the link in the episode description,
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Starting point is 00:14:16 Darren Waller, Calvin Ridley, George Kittle. Now, what do you think about that? Ridley in between Waller and Kittle. Would you take Ridley ahead of those guys? I would. I think, you know, for me, the way I have it ranked and the way that I view it, I think Waller and Kittle are early third round picks as opposed to second round picks. They're amazing, obviously. And it comes down to, you know, how you feel about getting one of those elite tier tight ends. But, you know, I would prefer, personally, a guy who could be a top three, top five wide receiver, and Ridley's that guy. Antonio Gibson was the last pick of round three, or round two. The first pick of round three was Justin Jefferson,
Starting point is 00:14:56 then Michael Thomas. Feels like stealing at that point, doesn't it? With who? Jefferson, a little bit. I hope so. I think he should definitely go before Waller and Kittle. So those are probably the two picks. I don't know that there's anyone.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And Swift. I'd take him ahead of Swift. Michael Thomas, Clyde Edwards-Ziller, A.J. Brown. Yeah, I think it was a question if you should take Jefferson or A.J. Brown in half PPR. Who would you go with? I would go with Jefferson. Keenan Allen, Terry McLaurin.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And if you stop right there at McLaurin, I wonder if that is the end of a tier for you, Jamie, with Allen Robinson, Cooper Cup, and Amari Cooper being the next three wide receivers. Yep. Okay, so McLaurin right there with Keenan Allen, A.J. Brown. And then after that, it was Dobbins.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And then if I wonder if that is the end of a tier, Dobbins, after that, we have Chris Carson off the board. And that's why you took Mahomes, right? Well, the way that I viewed it was my next receiver would have been Amari Cooper. And so after that, it's CeeDee Lamb and Robert Woods. I doubt or doubted, and it could still happen, that Mike Hoff was going to take both Cooper and Lamb.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And so he could have taken Mahomes and one of those guys. So I figured, let me take Mahomes, and I'll just take the Cowboys receiver that's left over. And I've said this before, that if Amari Cooper's ankle injury lingers into training camp, C.D. Lamb will be the highest- Cowboys, highest ranked Cowboys receiver for me. I actually did that in the fishbowl. I took CeeDee Lamb over Mark Cooper
Starting point is 00:16:30 because we're drafting in July and not knowing what the status of Cooper will be. I have those guys ranked so close that it was just an easy decision for that league. Yeah. By the way, reading the chat room right now, Evan B, his wife just had a baby. Congrats. That's awesome. And the way, look at reading the chat room right now. Evan B, his wife just had a baby.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Congrats. That's awesome. And Tony R, wife just had a son. Congrats. Wow. All right. What an awesome chat room we've got here. Okay. We're going to resume the draft here. We should have had them on the Tuesday night live show with Nando's daughter. Crying the whole time. But you know what is interesting here about looking at these tiers, and if McLaurin and Dobbins, obviously we don't know the way it's going to get drafted, but if McLaurin and Dobbins are the end of a tier in this draft, and that's 31 picks,
Starting point is 00:17:23 so I think that would be the team seven, basically, at the very end of that tier. Team eight had Allen Robinson, team seven, basically, at the very end of that tier. Team eight had Allen Robinson, team nine, Carson, team 10, Cup, team 11,
Starting point is 00:17:29 Mahomes, team 12, Cooper. Maybe that is an argument to have a top seven pick. You know, assuming the three tight ends are off the board, no quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Now that's the thing. In your league, you might have a quarterback in there or maybe two, who knows? It might push some of those running backs and wide receivers down a little bit. But this is an interesting spot middle of round three
Starting point is 00:17:48 is when you might start feeling a little yucky about your picks and going gosh i have to take amari cooper i have to take robert woods here i have to take chris carson david montgomery you might not feel right but great about it this is our version of what the tears you know scenarios should be not necessarily what a lot of people's tiers are. Some people might have Mike Evans higher, Chris Godwin higher, Julio Jones still higher. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:13 David Montgomery is the first pick of round four. Jamie is on the clock and he takes CeeDee Lamb. Here we go. I was thinking about Cooper versus Lamb today, and Cooper's never had a 1,200-yard season. He's really good.
Starting point is 00:18:31 He's never had more than eight touchdowns, and he's hurt, as you mentioned. Does it just feel like Lamb has more upside? Is that what it comes down to? I think so. You know, if you feel that way. Like I said, they're so close for me. I don't have a problem if somebody wants to make the case that Lamb is better. And ADP right now is showing us that Lamb is better.
Starting point is 00:18:52 So, you know, it seems like people are drafting that way. And if this continues, you know, with the injury for Cooper, it's not a hard decision to take Lamb over Cooper. But at least you know what you're getting with Cooper. You know, I mean, Lamb, you know, look, we had the conversation with Heath a couple weeks ago about, you know, Lamb is a bust for him, I believe. And his point was the body of work over the course of the season,
Starting point is 00:19:17 you know, and my argument to that was obviously I'm not going to judge him without Dak Prescott. You know, for me, I'm going to judge him based on the five games that he played with Dak. So I hope that's the guy we're getting. But it's a healthy Cooper, hopefully. It's still Michael Gallup, hopefully a healthy Blake Jarwin, still Ezekiel. A lot of Malzahar in that offense.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So we sat here yesterday or on Monday's show, Tuesday's show, excuse me, with the NFC projections talking about how it's tough to look at the Bucs offense, right, with all these mouths to feed and say, well, Mike Evans and Chris Godwin are maybe going too soon. Why aren't the Cowboys going too soon with all these mouths to feed too? By the way, here's Amari Cooper.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I mentioned he's never had 1,200 yards, but here's his 16 game pace in just the 30 regular season games he's played with with dac prescott and that includes week five when prescott got hurt his 16 game pace is 91 catches 1247 yards eight touchdowns on 133 targets it's interesting um that's really. But it's still only eight touchdowns. But 1,247 yards in 16 games would be really good. TJ Hawkinson off the board
Starting point is 00:20:31 very early. Pick 39. Then Miles Sanders off the board. I think this is a good spot for Miles Sanders. I do too. Montgomery and Sanders are still very good players. Montgomery a little bit better than Sanders in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:20:48 given the setup. But they also, you can see the bust factor for both those guys. You know, Sanders, they just seem to not have faith in him. You know, drafting Kenneth Gainwell, bringing in Terry Hunt. Hold on one second. I'm sorry to interrupt you. We'll get back to that. Trager, let's make a pick here.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Is it the pick you already made? Zeke... No, I didn't make it. Zeke, Najee Harris, Terry McLaurin on our team right now. Half PBR. We need to start three receivers. Jamie's rankings have Robert Woods, Chris Godwin, Deontay Johnson, Mike Evans, or Gaskin, Jacobs,
Starting point is 00:21:22 ETN, Mike Davis, or Mark Andrews, I guess. I don't really want to take Andrews or a quarterback. What do you think? I like Woods there. Woods? All right. I think he's a solid enough wide receiver. Get about 100 rushing yards a year from Robert Woods as well,
Starting point is 00:21:37 so we'll take Robert Woods. All right, I'm sorry. You were saying, do you really believe, though, that the backups on Philadelphia are actually threats to Miles miles sanders i don't think that they're threats to him being the lead guy i think they're threats to him being the workhorse you know being a workhorse you know i i wonder if they're going to use gainwell in a pass catching role if they're going to use carry on or jordan howard and in some sort of role
Starting point is 00:21:58 boston scott i feel like it's going to still play um you know i don't think everybody's making the team so we'll see how that all works out. But for the most part, I think there's going to have, they're going to have roles for other guys. And so, you know, with what Sanders did in the three games with Jalen hurts, I think it's encouraging, but you know, again, when you take a step back from it, it was one big run you know, kind of the same type of player that he was with, with Wednesday, but the offensive line should be healthy and a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:22:25 So again, I think it's just a matter of value. You know, if you're taking these guys in the third round, because, Oh my God, I have to have a running back. If I didn't take one,
Starting point is 00:22:32 my first two picks, then maybe you're panicking a little bit, you know, or if you feel like I, I need a second running back because I went running back receiver. Feels like a little bit of panic, you know, but round four,
Starting point is 00:22:42 I think is perfect for a guy like miles Sanders. Jamie, what do you think about this wide receiver run of Julio Jones, DJ Moore, Robert Woods? It's about the right spot for these guys. Woods, I think, is kind of a steal. I think you guys made a great pick for the team you're drafting for here. Because, like I said, I would have considered Woods at the start of the turn where I took CeeDee Lamb. So I think just getting him to start this was amazing.
Starting point is 00:23:10 But Moore is going to be interesting because is he going to be the lead guy or is Robbie Anderson going to be the lead guy? Who's going to absorb most of the targets from Curtis Samuel? Who's going to step into more of an inside role? Where does Terrence Marshall light up? So I think it's a fun pick. step into more of an inside role. Where does Terrence Marshall light up? So I think it's a fun pick. DJ Moore could be a guy that challenges to lead the league in receptions if he gets enough targets.
Starting point is 00:23:35 He's that good. He could be this year's Stephon Diggs. All right, so round four so far is Montgomery, Lamb, Hawkinson, Sanders, Julio, DJ Moore, Robert Woods, ETN, Chris Godwin, Brandon Ayuk. Really interesting picks. This is why I love doing these listener drafts. There's no way Hawkinson goes 39th.
Starting point is 00:23:56 We think that's too early. That's very in tune to our show. Yeah. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten him at the end of round five. That was the third pick of round four, so it's third to last pick of round five. If you really love Hawkinson, maybe that's where you have to get him.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Brandon Ayuk going 46th overall was really interesting after Chris Godwin. Then Josh Jacobs goes. What do you think about Ayuk there? Is that justifiable? I wouldn't have taken him over. A few of the receivers are still on the board. Deontay Johnson, Mike Evans, Tyler Lockett, I just like those guys better.
Starting point is 00:24:29 But if he builds off what he did a year ago, this 49ers offense is, like we talked about with the NFC projections, it's so hard to figure because most of the stuff that they did last season was with backup quarterbacks. And now you have potentially two different guys coming in. You know, it's Garoppolo back, and who knows how many games he starts, and then Trey Lance. George Kittle, healthy. You know, that changes things.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Debo Samuel, hopefully healthy. You know, so the nice thing about it is they're going to concentrate their targets really to those three guys. You know, so you kind of have an idea of, you know, who's going to catch passes there. And really, Iuke should be second in targets behind George Kittle. So I like him, but I think this is too soon to take him. I'm building a juggernaut here.
Starting point is 00:25:14 McCaffrey, Gibson, Jefferson, Evans, Andrews. I think maybe you could say I took Andrews a little early at 48th overall. No, that's the right spot for him. Obviously, I'm not getting him 24 picks later. I have a swing pick. And I'm not getting Kyle Pitts either. I'm assuming Kyle Pitts will go in this round. And come on, Matt.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Let's go. You're on the clock. I got some auto picks here. I'm trying to navigate through that. But round four is in the books. Round five begins with Mike Evans. And waiting for the second pick of round five, which I might have to make for Matt.
Starting point is 00:25:52 So hold on one second. There he goes. Tyler Lockett. Like it? Good? Evans Lockett? Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I mean, you know, Lockett, you know, I hope there's more consistent production. But, you know, by the end of the season he's going to have won you some games and that's the thing you you know you look for is he going to win you games every week no is he going to be frustrating probably for two three week stretch i mean that's just kind of been his nature but as we discussed with the nfc projections there's there's a lot to like about ty Tyler Lockett if the offense does change slightly or at least enough to help him
Starting point is 00:26:26 take that more consistent step forward, not better step forward because he's been pretty good. 100 catches last year. Didn't see that coming. Completely changed his routes. And they want to get the ball out of Russell Wilson's hands.
Starting point is 00:26:38 One thing that concerns me, though, is that he did really start to lose some targets late in the year to DK Metcalf. Metcalf kind of emerged as the alpha. For the season, Lockett had more in the year to DK Metcalf. Metcalf kind of emerged as the alpha for the season. Lockett had more targets, barely, than Metcalf. We talked about that on the projection show earlier this week. All right, Schrager, you and I are up.
Starting point is 00:26:54 We have got Zeke Harris, Robert Woods, and Terry McLaurin. I think there's only one running back left in this tier, which is Mike Davis. I mean, this is the tough calls you have to make, right? Mike Davis. The next running backs would be Chase Edmonds, Kareem Hunt. So I agree with you there. We could take Kyle Pitts.
Starting point is 00:27:15 We could go Pitts. I'm totally cool with that, too. You know, I kind of feel like taking a quarterback. What do you think? The value is amazing. Who do you want? Josh Allen right here? Well, all right.
Starting point is 00:27:25 We still have Allen. No, see, we have to stay true to what we say. We still have four great quarterbacks on the board, so we can gamble that one of them will be available next round, or we could start the run. Let's not start the run. Let's go with Mike Davis. Or we could go with Deontay Johnson. Let's get our third running back.
Starting point is 00:27:41 All right. I don't literally like Mike Davis here, but this is your team, so it's perfectly fine. Mike Davis. We now have Zeke, Najee, Mike Davis, Robert Woods, and Terry McLaurin. I like that team. That's a safe team with a high floor
Starting point is 00:27:53 and a lot of targets, a lot of carries. All right. There we go. Josh Allen. Here we go. All right. Let's see. A little experiment.
Starting point is 00:28:01 We'll see if any of those top five or six quarterbacks would be available as Josh Allen goes as the second quarterback off the board, 55th overall. And Jamie will be up in just a few picks. And Deontay Johnson goes. All right. Let me remind you while we wait for Jamie
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Starting point is 00:29:04 I think we might have screwed up by not, by the way. Lamar Jack, Kyle Pitts, Lamar Jackson. You know what, Ben? I think we might have screwed up by not going with the quarterback. There are going to be good quarterbacks again. There will be. And we can wait three more rounds. Yeah, that's true. Kenny Galladay off the... Oh, Jamie took Kenny Galladay.
Starting point is 00:29:17 All right. Corlin Sutton off the board. And Beckham off the board to start round six. I'm going to suspend the draft really quickly and just review round five. This will be a quick suspension here. Round five, Evans. Look, this is a wide receiver round.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Good wide receivers in this round. Evans, Lockett, Chase, Miles Gaskin, Thielen, Mike Davis, Josh Allen, Deontay Johnson, Kyle Pitts, Lamar Jackson, Kenny Galladay, and Courtland Sutton. I mean, Jamie, this just tells you everything about the way drafts are shaping up right now. The two running backs that went in round five are two guys who have such crazy ranges of outcomes in Myles Gaskin and Mike Davis. You do get Kyle Pitts and basically Mark Andrews, who was the last pick of round four, could have easily been the first pick of round five. And you get Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, and the rest are just these very good wide receivers. This is a wide receiver range here. Evans, Lockett, Chase, Thielen, Johnson, Galladay, Sutton. I'm sorry if I summed it up,
Starting point is 00:30:19 if you want to add to that, but this is how the drafts are shaping up. This is a wide receiver range. 100%. And this is, again, why we say you can wait on the position. It's, you know, look, not all these guys are going to be great. You know, I mean, Galladay concerned me,
Starting point is 00:30:32 even though I took him, you know, just with the change of teams. You know, Sutton, Beckham, you know, they have their clearly flaws coming off, you know, significant injuries. I love the Deontay Johnson pick. I was hoping he was going to last a few more spots to me. I would have kyle pitts as well if he made
Starting point is 00:30:48 it that far um but yeah it's a it's a great round for wide receivers and i do think the running backs are still pretty solid here you know gaskin to me is somebody i would have taken around four to be honest with you oh really um i'm gonna take a uh a luxury picker and a guy that I keep moving up my rankings. And you're going to hate it. Javante Williams, you were swayed by the Denver Post the other day? Well, I think you just look at what the upside could be. I mean,
Starting point is 00:31:15 he should challenge for the starting job and he could easily win it. It wouldn't be a surprise. And he's going to get work. And so, the guys I have him ranked around right now, Chase Edmonds, that's a timeshare if everybody's healthy. Michael Carter, I don't know. You know, I like him a lot, but I think if Williams gets that job, he's better with the Broncos than Carter is with the Jets. And so, you know, I'm going to take my chances on that. So I keep moving,
Starting point is 00:31:42 like I said, Williams higher and higher. And that's kind of where I stopped was at the Edmonds Carter spot when I last updated my rankings. Now that I look at it, I'm like, you know, I have two good running backs in Jones and Chubb. Let me take a luxury pick and see if it comes out on the right side of things. All right. So we have Beckham, which is very early, 61st overall. Javante Williams, Kareem Hunt, T. Higgins, DJ Chark.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Oh, man, I don't really like seeing Beckham and Chark in round six, Jamie. They don't feel like round six picks to me. What about you? What other receivers are better than them? You know, Demonte Smith, I know somebody that you like. You know, Juju and Claypool still being there. I actually consider Claypool as well. I would take both of them over Beckham and Chark.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I would, too. I would, too. Tyler Boyd, you know, half PPR, still gets value here. Robbie Anderson, Jerry Judy. Those guys have certainly plenty of upside as well. All right, Schrager. We're on the clock. Here we go. Zeke, Harris, Davis, Woods, and McLaurin. Should we go Claypool or Kyler or what?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Kyler, Murray. Yeah, baby. All right. It worked out. I was going to take him around earlier. You thank him for your patience. When you take a quarterback early, I took the first one in my home. This is him for your patience. When you take a quarterback early, I took the first one in my home. This is when you regret it, when you see these things happen.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah. Yeah. It happens every time, but you have to know that going in. You have to be prepared for that. Justin Herbert before Dak Prescott, before Russell Wilson. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:01 All right. Juju's off the board right after Chark. So it went Higgins, Chark, Juju, then Kyler, then Herbert. I'm getting ready. I'll tell everybody about my team. Sorry, narcissist here. McCaffrey, Gibson, Jefferson, Evans, and Andrews. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:33:22 About to have an auto-pick. I'm up in four picks. Whatever whatever why don't we look at why don't we look at cj ladd's team because he's on the clock right now big gladiator he's got derrick henry miles gaskin darren waller aj brown and chris godwin solid squad what's he gonna do chase claypool there you go yeah so that's he doesn't have a quarterback yet, but his starting lineup is Henry and Gaskins, Brown, Claypool, and Godwin, and Darren Waller. That's a really good team. I really like that team.
Starting point is 00:33:52 How about the third pick? That was who? That was David Arnott, who should name his team Ready Arnott. He has Kamara, Clyde Edwards-Elair, Ridley, Chase, and Iyuk, and Robbie Anderson. I don't really love the Robbie Anderson pick there as his fourth receiver. When Iyuk and Chase are already his third receiver, there's just a little bit too much uncertainty there.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Don't love that team as much as the other one we read. All right, what was the last pick? Last pick was Chase Edmonds, so I am on the clock. And let's give myself 30 new seconds there so I can cheat a little bit. Do I go with Dak Prescott or Russell Wilson? I think no. No? One of your two picks?
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah, I probably should, right? All right. I'm going to go with Devontae Smith and a quarterback. I'm getting pretty interested in Devontae Smith and a quarterback. I'm getting pretty interested in Devontae Smith. I find myself drafting him a lot. It took him 72nd overall. And yeah, let's go Dak Prescott.
Starting point is 00:34:59 So that would be Dak, McCaffrey, Gibson, Evans, Jefferson, or Jefferson, Evans, and Smith, and Mark Andrews. When would you take Devontae Smith? I think he was the highest in your ranking, so I guess 72nd overall sounds good to you. Yeah, he's in this, you know, he's in that range of certainly DJ Chark and Odell Beckham. You know, so you could argue that he has more upside than both of those guys, but
Starting point is 00:35:17 you know, rookie receivers, as we've seen, you know, the last couple of years, the high-end ones have hit, but you know, is Jalen Hurts the type of quarterback to get the most out of him? That's what we're going to find out. Tom Brady off the board before Russell Wilson. Dallas Goddard is the next pick.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And that wasn't the Waller manager, was it, who took Goddard? I don't think so. I think now the Waller manager. I think, you know, just going back to your team for a second, if we pull it up. This is something i don't think so i think i think you know just just going back to your team for a second um if if we pull it up this is something i don't think we talk enough about um that we probably should look at what you've done with this team look at what you've done yeah are you scolding me no it's great you know and i think this is something that you know i i certainly fall victim to and and i need to do a better job of.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Assuming everybody is healthy, forget about what they could do on the field in terms. You could see the bust potential maybe for Antonio Gibson, Evans, and Smith. You could see what could go wrong for those guys. But if you're just going based on track record, Dak has top five potential. McCaffrey has number one potential. Gibson has top 20, top 15 potential. Your three receivers, if they do what they're capable of doing, Jefferson, you know, coming close to what he did a year ago,
Starting point is 00:36:38 Mike Evans doing what he typically does, Andrew's doing what he typically does. You have cornerstones. And the waiver wire is going to determine so many different things about fantasy rosters. Like, if you have a good core, as opposed to a lot of depth, because think about what the depth usually ends up happening, right?
Starting point is 00:36:57 Like, if you go, let's say you didn't take Prescott, you didn't take Andrews, right? And you had a third running back there and a fourth wide receiver. They're probably going to help you at some point. Yeah, right. I mean, it's a risk. I'm going to be thin.
Starting point is 00:37:13 It's really enough in the draft. But you have league winners. Right, right, right. You leave the draft going, well, I'm pretty thin at running back. I might be a little thin at wide receiver, although I think I can make up for that later but I've got a top five tight end I've got a top five quarterback I've got Christian McCaffrey
Starting point is 00:37:29 bottom line is drafting number one is where people say where would you want to draft I want to draft number one I think McCaffrey is just such a help he's almost two running backs in one he's so good so yeah thank you Jamie I appreciate it but I was even like you know I just did the write up of the Tuesday draft
Starting point is 00:37:45 that we did, the Superflex draft. You know, and so like Nando's team, for example, for anybody who watched. Can we just have Schrager make this pick real quick? Yep, go ahead. Kyler, Zeke, Najee, Woods, McLaurin, Mike Davis. What's our next pick? You like Debo there?
Starting point is 00:38:00 I hate Debo, actually. I would not draft him at all. I don't like the tight ends here. Jerry, Judy, Brandon. I would not draft him at all. I don't like the tight ends here. Jerry, Judy, Brandon. I'd take Brandon Cooks personally, but you tell me. I'd take Judy or Cooks. Let's go Cooks. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah, Debo is a no-go for me. All right. Sorry, Jamie. Go ahead. Nando's team. No, so Nando, again, super flex. So take that into account but you know nando has he had saquon barkley david montgomery devontae adams deontay johnson and robert woods that's the core of his team and george kill that's the core of
Starting point is 00:38:34 his team in a three receiver ppr league awesome right well without the super flex factor yeah but his quarterbacks are probably on paper, the worst group or close to on paper, the worst group. Right. But again, you know, core,
Starting point is 00:38:51 like what's the core of your team. So now again, if he had taken it one quarterback in that mix, right. If not to, it's a different team. Now say, tell everybody who his quarterbacks are just, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:01 for his quarterbacks are Daniel Jones to a tongue of Iloa andbacks are Daniel Jones, Tua Tungavailoa, and Carson Wentz. Right. So that's the one side of it. So he went away from the super flex. Then you have Joe Pisapia's team from Fantasy Pros. And he started his team with two quarterbacks, Russell Wilson and Ryan Tannehill. Then he went Najee Harris and Chris Carson.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Right. Then his top receivers were Amari Cooper and Jamar Chase now he I took Chase I think a little too soon for my opinion because like DJ Morris on the board for example um but again that's the core of his team he has a good core right yeah very so it's like do you want to have have more? It's like, I don't know, like getting into taking quarterbacks early is something that we should maybe be a little bit more in tune with
Starting point is 00:39:52 because if those guys are who they are, you know, the top five, does it make you a little bit more solidified with your roster? I mean, I was planning on doing an episode at some point where I have in my mind four or five major questions that I need to figure out in the next month. It's not to say that I'm completely clueless about them, but I need to really figure out where I land on them before I feel completely
Starting point is 00:40:20 100% comfortable drafting. Obviously, I can do a draft right now and come away with a team that I like. But one of the questions is, how much separation is there between the top five or six mobile quarterbacks and the Bradys and the Rogers and the Staffords of the world? I don't really put Stafford with Brady and Rogers, but a lot of people do.
Starting point is 00:40:41 My theory is that last year, there wasn't really a huge difference. I mean, you could have, obviously, Rodgers was amazing, and Brady, once he got Antonio Brown, he was the third-best quarterback per game. But this year, my concern with waiting is that if all of the passing stats come down from last year, which was a historic season, the highest scoring season in NFL history, if all of the passing stats come down, well, that's just going to make the mobile
Starting point is 00:41:10 quarterbacks even better. And it is going to put some distance between them and the guys who don't run at all. So I have to figure out if I want to spend a fifth or a sixth round pick on Kyler Murray or Dak Prescott, or if I want to spend a ninth round pick on Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers or Jalen Hurts, something like that. Yeah, but ninth round pick on Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers or Jalen Hurts, something like that. Yeah, but it's not fifth or sixth. It's third or fourth, because that's most drafts, how they're going to go. Truthfully, Jamie, I don't play in any leagues like that.
Starting point is 00:41:35 All my leagues are CBS, but you're right. But we'll see. I mean, this didn't happen in this draft with our listeners, right? I mean, they basically waited until rounds five through seven to take these quarterbacks other than Mahomes. True, true. So, yeah, we'll see how that shapes up. But basically, I have to figure out which tier of quarterback I want.
Starting point is 00:41:55 So I think I can put together a winning roster with either tier. I do think that the mobile quarterbacks... But you are also talking about while the passing numbers could come down, Brady's still going to be among the lead leaders in passing if he's healthy. Stafford has a chance to be among the lead leaders in passing if things go right with the transition to a new team.
Starting point is 00:42:14 You're talking about two guys that are proven. I love Tom Brady. I know you do. I can't stop drafting Tom Brady. Right. But I think it's more along the lines of what will Rodgers look like on a team that is going to be
Starting point is 00:42:31 balanced? What will Joe Burrow look like? What will Trevor Lawrence look like? Those guys that are at the back end of that. Justin Herbert. What is he going to look like? But you basically wait for... You don't get a lot of the top six quarterbacks, do you? I don't typically draft that way.
Starting point is 00:42:48 The way that just the draft fell at the end of the third round, that Mahomes was there. Okay, I'll take a shot on it, not knowing who I'm drafting against. Typically in most of my leagues, obviously I know the people that I'm drafting with. So you get a feel for it.
Starting point is 00:43:00 So that kind of changes things. But I think, you know, if you, if you were, you know, if you, if you, you know, hindsight, if you had told me that Josh Allen would still be there two rounds later, or, uh,
Starting point is 00:43:11 Dak Prescott and Kyler Murray would have fallen to where they fell. I obviously would not have taken my homes by any stretch. All right. Let's, uh, let's review. I also like I'm a Jalen hurts guy, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:20 So like I, I tend to wait him out. Uh, when you take Jalen hurts, do you find yourself drafting a second quarterback early or no never early um i'll always kind of look at the board and again it's knowing who i'm drafting with so when i'm drafting you know obviously most of the drafts i'm doing right now i'm doing with you know my colleagues so i know that i don't have to take a second quarterback because i'll look at the waiver wire and there's fitzpatrick and
Starting point is 00:43:44 roethlisberger and you know the some of the young guys that still have potential like you know Tua and Daniel Jones and whatever and um you know so I could either piece it together with a veteran or I can go with uh you know the Saints guys usually undrafted so it's all a matter of you know just knowing who you're who you're in the league with. But if I see that there's a ton of number two quarterbacks going up, like we had this conversation in particular because you took Jalen Hurts and Aaron Rodgers, right? Yes. In our magazine draft?
Starting point is 00:44:13 Yep. Very happy with that. Huh? Very happy with that. Right. You're happy with that, but it could be frustrating as well because you're not going to know which guy to play every week and you could make some wrong decisions.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And then that's going to eat up a roster spot for you, where you can't drop them. That's a good point. Now, I drafted... My starting quarterback is Burrow, and I've already gotten one trade offer for somebody who did something similar to you. The fantasy manager who drafted...
Starting point is 00:44:41 I think it was Russell Wilson and Tom Brady offered me Tom Bradyady and terry mcclurin playing on my heartstrings um tom brady and terry mcclurin for uh justin jefferson and gus edwards now i like that trade on paper because i think it's close enough. Oh, God. That's a landslide win, Brady and McLaurin. Well, it's a landslide win right now. Unless Dobbins gets hurt. And that's exactly why I'm not making the trade. Because if Dobbins gets hurt in training camp, I'm going to be kicking myself.
Starting point is 00:45:15 That I gave away the starting running back to the race. Oh, man. All right. All right. Listen, we're going to take a quick break here on Fantasy Football today. We've been talking a while about strategy. So when we come back, I will recap rounds eight, round seven and eight. We are now into round nine, round seven and eight.
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Starting point is 00:46:57 Yes. Do you know when you'll publish it? I'm sure it'll be out by Friday. All right. So whenever it's published, I'll put a link in the episode description. That might be after you listen to it. I apologize for that. But whenever it's published, I'll put a link. If you want to see it, though,
Starting point is 00:47:11 go to youtube.com slash fantasyfootball today and you can watch it all unfold. So round seven, I had the first pick. Dak Prescott, Tom Brady, Dallas Goddard, Ryan Tannehill, Tyler Boyd, Brandon Cooks, Will Fuller, Melvin Gordon, Russell Wilson. Remember, Javante Williams way off the board at this point. Russell
Starting point is 00:47:31 Wilson going after Dak, Brady, and Tannehill in this round. This pick, I really don't like. Devin Singletary. You agree with me? Yeah. 80 second overall. Jerry Judy. I mean, I'm a Zach Moss Singletary. You agree with me? Yeah. 82nd overall. Jerry Judy.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I mean, I'm a Zach Moss guy too. And I just took Zach Moss 97th overall. Aaron Rodgers was the last pick of round seven. So, all right. Rounds six to seven were big quarterback rounds. Round eight was Noah Fant. Michael Carter to Jamie. James Conner. Raheem Mostert.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I got to say, really, Leonard Fournette, Damian Harris, James Robinson, this is really not that bad of a running back round. Round eight. Obviously, they're not all going to hit. Some of them are going to be busts, whatever. So it's Fant, then it's Carter, Conner, Michael Carter, James Conner, Raheem Mostert, Irv Smith, Leonard Fournette, Damian Harris, James Robinson, Marvin Jones, Joe Burrow, David Johnson, and Zach Moss. I think you've got useful players there, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Talk about these running backs in round eight. I mean, I was thrilled to get Michael Carter there. I considered him when I took Javante Williams, so I like Michael Carter's upside a lot. You look at, you know, Mostert is another one that I think is going to go very undervalued if he stays in that lead role for the 49ers. You know, Fournette and Robinson are in crowded backfields now, but, you know, they still should be the best guys. Well, not the best guys there, but Fournette should be the best guy there,
Starting point is 00:49:04 and Robinson still has value, so half PPR certainly still benefits him. I love Zach Moss and what he hopefully will do for the Bills. The interesting one to me is Damian Harris because I think he could be really special if he gets the job for the Patriots, but you still have James White in the passing down situation. You still have Cam Newton stealing goal line opportunities, and you still have Ramondre Stevenson who's getting a lot of buzz. So it's a huge if thatris is going to be that type of
Starting point is 00:49:27 player but uh i like his situation because i think the patriots going to run the ball a lot i that was actually my pick that i made for team six didn't even get salt tracker i we were having we were deep in thought sorry shrek i like the pick too yeah i like damian harris i think he's really good and i i hope to see mac j Jones there because I do think that will free up some of those goal line touchdowns. I do. Yeah, Jamie, make a good point there about Cam Newton. Damian Harris got very unlucky
Starting point is 00:49:52 with Cam Newton rushing touchdowns. And Cam had 12 of them. So that's not going to repeat. I mean, that was a ridiculous rate for him. I wouldn't be surprised. I would take the under there. I mean, it's still going to be 10. All right, so now we're into round nine. I don't be surprised. I would take the under there. I mean, it's still going to be 10. All right, so now we're into round nine.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I don't know. How many times has he had 10 rushing touchdowns? I feel like that was his second season of his career with 10. How many times has he thrown two touchdown passes all year? That's probably going to happen again. That's true. All right, so round nine. I took Zach Moss to end round eight,
Starting point is 00:50:24 and I took Trey Sermon to end round nine, and those are running backs three and four for me. So Jamie likes my team with Dak and Andrews, but this is the price you pay if McCaffrey gets hurt or if Gibson gets hurt. It's Zach Moss and Trey Sermon for me. All right, let's resume the draft here with pick 98 overall. But again, if you lose McCaffrey
Starting point is 00:50:46 and Chuba Hubbard doesn't go get drafted or gets drafted and gets dropped three weeks into the season because that's likely as a backup running back is never going to touch the ball. You're spending all your fab on him depending on the injury from McCaffrey. Or if Gibson goes down,
Starting point is 00:51:00 you're spending your fab on Peyton Barber. But you know what I mean. You have the opportunity to get guys that are going to be available. It's fine. I'm fine with it. It's just pointing out the drawbacks, but there's a lot. We had an auto-pick of Deebo Samuel, but I'm leaving it because this is a
Starting point is 00:51:19 perfectly fine time for Deebo Samuel. Three times in his career, Cam Newton. Ten or more times. Curtis Samuel after Deebo Samuel? Three times in his career, Cam Newton. Ten or more times. Three times, okay. Curtis Samuel after Debo Samuel. Then Ronald Jones. Did the Fournette drafter take Ronald Jones, or did someone else do it?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Does it make sense to lock up a backfield with your eighth and ninth picks? It was a different guy. It was a different guy. He has Henry Gaskin, and Ronald Jones is actually his third running back. Okay. I'm going to step in here and make this pick, Adam. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:51 All right. What do we got? Logan Thomas. He's the last tight end in this tier. Okay. Adam hates that pick. I hate it. Murray, Zeke.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I just don't do tight end here. I don't do tight end here. At this point, not a huge difference for me between Logan Thomas and any flyer. Troutman, Ingram, anyone who we're going to pick up off the waiver wire that I could literally get with my last or second-to-last pick. Make the pick.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Oh, I thought Schrager was doing it. I'm sorry. Oh, man, now you give me Higby? Even worse. Oh, Higby, yeah, that's who we should take. All right, sorry. So you want Logan Thomas here? Yes, man. Now you give me Higby? Even worse. Oh, Higby. Yeah, that's who we should take. All right. Sorry. So you want Logan Thomas here?
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yes, sir. Okay. That is James. This is what it's like sharing a team with him. I'm letting him do it. I couldn't do it for a full season. I couldn't do it. And we do it for baseball, so I usually defer to him.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Hey, we're in first place. Which is fine because it's baseball. It's baseball. We're doing great. He would be in trouble if we shared a team of football. No, it would go smoother than you think. Well, I know it would because you used my rankings. Daryl Henderson off the board.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Daryl Henderson is probably not someone that has any value unless Akers gets hurt. Agree or disagree? He has value. He's not going to have week-in, week-out value, but he has... I think he'll play enough. I don't think it's going to be the total Cam Akers show.
Starting point is 00:53:11 All right. Deshaun Watson off the board. After Logan Thomas. I don't know who picked Logan Thomas. Henderson, Deshaun Watson, Kenyon Drake to Tony. You know what I'm going to do in the write-up? I'm changing team one to Ben's team and this team to your team.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I like this team. This team's fine. Let me see Tony's team. He took Kenyon Drake. I just want to know if he has Josh Jacobs. Tony's team is... Why can't I find Tony's team? There he is. His team name is literally his first and last name.
Starting point is 00:53:43 He does not have Josh Jacobs. He has Carson and Miles Sanders. Raheem Mostert, Kenyon Drake. Devontae Parker is the next pick. Jamie is up. He takes Marquise Brown. Okay. What do you think the chances are of us at some point just moving Bateman ahead of Brown?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Preseason? Yeah. Never for me. I don't think for Dave. Dave's obviously very high on Marquise Brown. I just think that maybe in full PPR, if he has such a tremendous training camp in pre-season, but I think Marquise Brown is still the established number one receiver there.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Number two target behind Andrews, but number one receiver. All right, here comes Michael Gallup to end round nine. And this worked out fantastic for me. I'm going to tell you after he takes it. So it actually worked out great because there were three receivers that I wanted. I got one of them in Marquise Brown. I'm going to take the second one now.
Starting point is 00:54:36 It's your favorite receiver. It's LaVisca Chennault. The third one would have been Antonio Brown. So I like all of these guys. But getting Marquise Brown and Chenault was exactly how I wanted it to play out. So with Chenault, we had kind of a spirited
Starting point is 00:54:51 argument about Chenault on one of our Tuesday night streams, but I think he was picked in the 80s or the 90s at that point. He just went 111th, 110th. So, I'm certainly, I think we're all happy to get players we like 20 picks later yeah congratulations and i've seen some people you know some analysts uh saying that
Starting point is 00:55:11 chanel should be drafted to have dj charke i'm not there yet but i mean chanel might be the best jaguars receiver absolutely and he's the third one because Marvin Jones was selected already too. So in this draft, he's the third to go. Giovanni Bernard. Yeah, that's another one I don't really love. I just don't see him. I don't see him unless Jones and Fournette are both hurt. I don't think he gets carries really.
Starting point is 00:55:39 And then how many carries? Yeah, I don't know. I don't love Bernard there. I think even if they're hurt, it's not necessarily guaranteed that it's him. It should be. But I don't think it's guaranteed. Antonio Brown is the pick here. Pick 112 overall. The thing about Gio is he's going to play a lot
Starting point is 00:55:54 because I think Brady's going to want that type of player on the field. If you just look at Antonio Brown's targets compared to Godwin and Evans, picking him 112th overall makes so much sense. I would have been very happy if he was the one that I settled for. Oh, instead of Chenault.
Starting point is 00:56:13 All right, Trager, we got Kyler Murray, Zeke, Najee, Woods, Cooks, McLaurin, Logan Thomas, Mike Davis, David Harris. What do you think, a little wide receiver depth here? Yeah, the pitman or Gage? Oh, or we got Waddle. Yeah, let's go Pittman. Pittman it is. Give me one second, though.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Where's... Pittman is on our team. A guy who had basically one good game. Michael Pittman did almost nothing last year. And he was an underneath receiver running a lot out of the slot. Which really,
Starting point is 00:56:54 I don't think he should be. And I'm excited to draft him. You know, I'm excited. This could be one though like where, and I think everybody across the board is Pittman over Hilton in the industry. Certainly consensus wise. This could be one, though, like where... And I think everybody across the board is Pittman over Hilton in the industry.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Certainly consensus-wise. This could be one where like, why did I draft Michael Pittman over T.Y. Hilton? I think Hilton went already today, right? I believe so. Yeah, he's off the board. Got to have the rookie receivers come off the board soon. The rest of the rookie receivers.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Jalen Waddell, yeah. Jalen Waddell just went. James White just went. This is a half PPR league. White probably would have went a little sooner in a full PPR league. He went 117th overall.
Starting point is 00:57:34 We are waiting on pick 118 from Believe It or Not. Jamie, his dad joke game has gotten so good that he doesn't even laugh at something that is, you know, something that clever is David Arnott. Ready, Arnott?
Starting point is 00:57:49 I did laugh. Yeah, all right. But you were upset with yourself for laughing. Yeah, a little bit. All right, my team's on deck. Dak Prescott, McCaffrey, and Gibson. Justin Jefferson, Mike Evans, Devante Smith, Mark Andrews, and Zach Moss and Trey Sermon.
Starting point is 00:58:02 One of those guys is my flex right now, but... Which one? Moss. It has to be Moss, I think. I think I could see Moss really becoming a riser. I feel like there's going to be some buzz on him and not so much on Singletary. Speaking of risers, I'm about to take Mike Williams. I'm a big Zach Moss fan.
Starting point is 00:58:24 I think I made that pretty clear. I like his potential. I liked him last year. I regretfully, in a Dynasty League rookie-only draft, I took him over Antonio Gibson. But that was before the Washington football team had made some personnel moves. But that's one I regret.
Starting point is 00:58:43 In any event, Zach Moss is somebody that I hoped would have a bigger role in Buffalo. He started to take on that role three of his final four regular season games, not including week 17 when they didn't have much to play for. He had 13 or more carries. He's not going to do much in the passing game, but I think he has a chance to steal a few touchdowns from Josh Allen inside the five, inside the 10, and prove that he's better than Devin Singletary. So the addition of Matt Breida as the only player that they brought in, I think is a good scenario for him to have that type of breakout campaign.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Yeah, I'm trying to find it, but he really took over down the stretch, including in the playoffs before he got hurt. Yeah, so week 13, Singletary had 18 carries for 61 yards. Didn't do very much with those 18 carries. And then, oh wait, I probably have to make a pick here, sorry. Oh, no, not up yet. Mike Williams was the first pick of round 11, followed by Jalen Hurts.
Starting point is 00:59:49 No, I'm sorry. Mike Williams was the last pick of round 10. Then I took Jalen Hurts with the next pick to start round 11. Russell Gage, Mecole Hardman. But why take Jalen Hurts? Look, I see Jalen Hurts available at 121st overall. I know I have Dak Prescott. I have to take him.
Starting point is 01:00:06 But why? You're never going to play him. I disagree. You never know. You've got Dak Prescott who's coming back from a serious injury. Jalen Hurts might be better than him. Jalen Hurts has the potential to be the Lamar Jackson, the Kyler Murray of this season. I can't pass up the best player available.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Emmanuel Sanders is the pick. All right, Schrager, we're up. What are we doing? Do you still hate Mooney a lot? My philosophy is I don't like number two wide receivers on teams with bad passing offenses, but this is your team too, so... I'll go Mooney. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Mooney! That's my Ferris Bueller. All right, anyway, let me go back to my Zach Moss note here. Moss had 41 carries in the last four regular season games. And Singletary had 28. In the first game of the playoffs,
Starting point is 01:00:56 Zach Moss had seven carries and four catches. And then he hurt his ankle. At that point, Devin Singletary had two carries and one catch. So I really believe that he was taking over that. He was favored down the stretch. It's something to keep an eye
Starting point is 01:01:12 on going into camp. Jamie is up. Let's see Jamie's team. Jamie's got Mahomes, Aaron Jones, and Nick Chubb. CeeDee Lamb, Galladay, and Judy. No tight end yet. You took Jalen Hurts, right? I was going to take Pollard if I didn't take Hurts.
Starting point is 01:01:31 See, to me, that's more of a league winner for a team that has an established quarterback. Absolutely. Yes. Potentially. Or a potentially useless pick. You know? But... I have to,
Starting point is 01:01:53 I don't have to worry about necessarily carrying, you know, I could carry him without the, I'm trying to think how to phrase this the right way. You wasted a pick. We've got three rounds left here. No, look, Pollard was the one. I think that in reality, I have a harder time keeping Pollard on my team than Hurts.
Starting point is 01:02:12 If we were actually playing this team out and the weeks were going by. That's not, you have a harder time keeping Pollard on your team because you give up Hurts, you're giving up a starter potentially right away. Right, right, exactly. So, you know, Pollard has a chance to get dropped and not get picked up.
Starting point is 01:02:24 If he's just, if Zeke's staying healthy and Pollard's just getting six carries a game or something like that, Hertz is getting picked up. And so Hertz would have more trade value than Pollard, assuming no Zeke injury. I just think, look, I think that NFL teams should probably take a more best player available approach to drafts. And I try to incorporate that sometimes in fantasy, too. And at that point, you know, I'm just getting bench players. I've already got Moss and, uh, I've already got two bench running backs. Actually one of them's a flex. Um, no, I've had two bench running backs. So Paula would have been my third bench running back. Yeah. I just took best player available.
Starting point is 01:02:57 That's basically what it comes down to for me. I know you, you and I, you and I are very philosophically very similar. I've learned a lot from you. But this is one thing where you really disagree with me. Ooh. Oh, wait. Oh, man. Just got drafted. Yep.
Starting point is 01:03:18 If you had taken... You wasted a pick. If you had taken a different quarterback, though, you're never benching Dak. You never a pick. If you had taken a different quarterback, though, you're never benching Dak. You never know that. Isn't it possible that Jalen Hurts is better than Dak? It is possible, but you're not going to make that decision until six or seven weeks into the season.
Starting point is 01:03:35 And then how about this? Wait, how about this? What if Zeke got hurt? What if Dak got hurt? You sit here and you play the Zeke got hurt game, I'd have Tony Pollard. But if Dak got hurt, I'd have Jalen Hurts. What if the the zeke got hurt game i'd have tony pollard but if that got hurt i'd have jalen hurts what if dak and zeke got hurt and you have matthew stafford and tony pollard i mean that in theory would be better i will give you that but you're just hurts has too
Starting point is 01:03:58 much upside for me to not take him 121st overall i'm not not disagreeing with that, but then don't take Dak. Well, I didn't take Dak in round five, knowing... Seven? Oh, nice. Knowing that Jalen Hurts was going to be available in round 11.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Obviously... All right, no more suspending picks. You got to let it go. Okay. Yeah, I keep trying to let people draft, but I think we're just going to finish up here. You can let them know in the chat.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Okay. Autopicks will stand. All right. Shagger, you and I are going to make a pick after this autopick. Darrell Williams, Gabe Davis. You okay with either one of those? No. No. Not Gabriel Davis. Not Gabriel Davis. Yeah, yeah, not Gabriel Davis.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Not Gabriel Davis. Yeah, I think Darryl. Well, we don't have to take Gabriel Davis because he just went. All right, yeah, I think Darryl Williams is a good pick. All right, let's do it. A little flyer there. Good job.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And, all right, let's review our teams. Why don't we do that? With the first pick, I took McCaffrey, Gibson in round two, and Jefferson in round three at the turn, although if I had to pick, I'd pick Jefferson first. My quarterback is Dak Prescott. I have Mike Evans, Jefferson, and Devontae Smith at wide receiver. I have McCaffrey and Gibson at running back.
Starting point is 01:05:24 I have Mark Andrews. My flex week one is going to be Mike Williams, Zach Moss, Trey sermon, and Jalen hurts are on my bench. Jamie had the 11th pick. Jamie has my homes, Nick Chubb and Aaron Jones,
Starting point is 01:05:40 lamb, Galladay and Judy. Javante Williams as his flex on the bench, Michael Carter, John Brown, Tonyaday, and Judy. Javante Williams as his flex. On the bench, Michael Carter, John Brown, Tony Pollard, Marquise Brown, LaVisca Chenault. Really high upside bench, big time. No tight end right now.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Shagger, what do you think about Jamie's team? You like it? Oh, who the hell takes Chuba Hubbard, you loser? Oh, that's annoying. That was going to be my next pick, but he just went. I like his team. You punt on tight end, you get one higher upside bench player. That's the difference between that
Starting point is 01:06:13 urinized team with Logan Thomas and Jamie's team right here. The only thing that I need to obviously happen is there's question marks at the receiver spot. If they hit, it's great. Gallaudet switching teams, and, you know, we know what that story is. Judy's got some quarterback issues, and so now more competition for targets.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Lamb I feel the best about, but that's kind of why I invested in Janalt and Marquise Brown and John Brown. You know, I mean, any of those guys could be capable capable starters and i'm just going to take two tight ends next you know that that's um that's how i finished out my roster um you know so whoever uh whoever the top two with the most upside slash best week one matchup is that's the route i'll go tanyan johnny smith gaseki troutman jarwin cole commit all on the board Who are your top two there? Troutman would be one. And then I'll just probably go for the most upside,
Starting point is 01:07:17 depending on how it all plays out, if Troutman is still there. If it's not Troutman, I could take Janu. I'm a still Blake Jarwin guy. Tanyan is one of those guys I feel like I have to rank him in a certain spot as opposed to not drafting him. He just scares me because of the Rodgers situation for one. Are you really calling him Tanyan right now? Tanyan, sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Is that what I heard? Come on now. Tanyan. Be a professional here. Tanyan scares me because of his 59 targets last year hey did you see who the Athletic has as the Green Bay Packers breakout player
Starting point is 01:07:50 Amari Rogers yes sir you just wait I'm not going to be able to get Amari Rogers in any drafts because everyone's going to be all over him might be I took him in this draft alright we can wrap it up here i'll go over some of the
Starting point is 01:08:07 most recent picks pick round 12 look like this mckissick john brown gallman beasley cory davis gabriel davis daryl williams tevin coleman eric ebron chuba hubbard henry rugs And then round 13. All right. And Jamie's almost on the clock. And that's going to do it for Fantasy Football today. Again, Jamie's going to write a story about this. So when this gets published, I will put it in the episode recap
Starting point is 01:08:52 and the episode description. Until then, if you want to see it, youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. Please check that out. Please nominate us on podcastawards.com. And thank you so much for spending over an hour with us listening to this mock draft. I hope it was helpful. Jamie, Ben, thank you guys very much. We will hour with us listening to this mock draft. I hope it was helpful.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Jamie, Ben, thank you guys very much. We will talk to you later on. Thank you.

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