Fantasy Football Today - Live 0.5 PPR Mock Draft! Plus the Impact of No Preseason Games (07/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 22, 2020

Nominate us on PodcastAwards for the Sports category https://www.podcastawards.com/app/signup/ Before we get to our mock draft, the guys talk about how the rookies will be affected by the absence of preseason games. Are we downgrading Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Jonathan Taylor, J.K. Dobbins and the rest of the high profile rookies? ... Let's draft! 0.5 PPR, 3 WRs and a flex. Heath takes Derrick Henry over Dalvin Cook. Jamey takes David Johnson and Leonard Fournette with consecutive picks. Dave loads up on RBs and Adam is the first to take a QB ... Ben Schragger actually steals the show with the best team! We review the picks and the teams and discuss when to take handcuffs, backup QBs, backup TEs, rookie WRs and so much more ... Your emails at [e-mail] 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @YardsPerGretch, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Seven of the top eight players in half PPR last year, not including quarterbacks, were running backs. So will this draft be RB heavy in the first two

rounds? Does format even matter when you ask that question? We're doing a live mock draft. Welcome. We haven't done one of these in a while. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today. Tuesday afternoon. You'll hear this on Wednesday. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Heath Cummings, Jamie Eisenberg. All right. Got to get to the...

Yeah, rock on, Dave. I see you. I see you, man. Got to get to the news and notes real quick. So I'm going to read four headlines, and you guys can react. One, Antonio Brown sort of retired on Instagram. It's happened before. Two, Sean McVay talked about being running back by committee.

He even referenced the 49ers. Speaking of the 49ers, number three, Raheem Mostert. Seems like they're working things out. Looks like he's probably staying with San Francisco. And four, there will be no preseason for the NFL. There will be sort of an extended training camp. All right, it's a lot of stuff, guys. React.

I actually love the preseason. I love watching the games and watching deep into the fourth quarter to try and find players who could be diamonds in the rough. So I will probably be one of six people on the planet that will miss the preseason this year. Thank you. Thank you very much. I want to give Heath credit because he's had this opinion on the rookies this entire offseason

that if you don't get a chance to have them work, um, I don't want to speak for Heath, but I'm interpreting your, your opinion, uh, that they're, they're not going to be really good for fantasy. So, uh, you haven't had them ranked very high. Um, I, I made that reflective in my rankings as well. So I dropped all the rookies significantly, um, because I do think it's going to be a very, very sluggish and slow start for them, uh, given the Now, injuries will change that. So, you know, if we have an injury to any of the guys that the running backs are playing behind or the receivers, you know,

the receivers weren't really high for me anyway. But the running backs, I dropped Edward Soler almost a round and a half. I dropped Taylor almost a round and a half. Akers and Swift a round as well. So where, give me rounds, give me rounds for these guys. I'm sorry. Give me the rounds that you'd take them in now. Edward Solaire, I wouldn't take him to the end of round three.

I wouldn't take Jonathan Taylor to round five. I wouldn't take Akers and Swift until closer to round seven. Vaughn and Moss, I've dropped them as well. I just think it's going to be tough for them, you know, and I know Heath, you've talked about that. So again, kudos to you. We'll see how it plays out, but I think it's just gonna be rough. You know, no preseason is going to hurt them. The lack of off season is going to hurt them. You've talked about that. So again, kudos to you. We'll see how it plays out, but I think it's just gonna be rough.

You know, no preseason is gonna hurt them. The lack of off season is gonna hurt them. I'll go back to what Miles Sanders said to us about not having any work prior to training camp last year and maybe what that did to him and slowing him down at the start of the year if he may have had a better opportunity to push Jordan Howard off the field. So I think they're still gonna be really good.

I like his take on, you know, buying in on them at the middle of the season. I think that's correct, but you still draft them. Uh, you should still draft them, but you don't necessarily have to draft them. Jeez. Jamie, why don't you buy Heath a beer already? He's great. He's the best. It was like one of my favorite segments in pocket. No, but I do think, and I kind of tweeted about it earlier. Like you just think about how many reps this year is Jonathan Taylor going to get an actual live action pass protection

compared to past rookies when they've had OTAs, when they've had rookie camp, when they've had preseason games, when they've had training camp with pads. I mean, they're talking about no pads at practice for at least the first three weeks. August 17th on the calendar, I believe, is the very first day,

according to the NFL's most recent proposal, they would have pads. August 28th is what the players are still asking for. So, I mean, that's just a week and a half before the season. I just, I still think Taylor and Clyde Edwards-Hilaire could be Miles Sanders-like league winners in the second half of the season, but I don't think they're going to be very fun to roster in the first half of the year. The thing about it is they're all in situations where the guys that they're competing with are good players.

They may not be great players, but they're good players. Damian Williams was obviously fantastic in the Super Bowl and what he did in the playoffs for the Chiefs. Marlon Mack was a thousand-yard rusher for the Colts last year. Kerryon Johnson's had flashes of brilliance

when he's been healthy, but that's the biggest thing is his health. And so, you know, you just go on and on and on. It's like, you know, I'm excited about all these guys to the same level that I was, but I'm just not, you can't draft them to the same way. That's just the way you have to approach it. It's very difficult to say that I'm going to, like for me,

I can't take Edward Solaire over Aaron Jones or Chris Carson or, you know, guys that are in established situations as messy as it may be. And the hope that those guys are still going to be great at the end of the season. It's just in the early part of the year, it's going to be frustrating. May I make two counter arguments? I'll allow it. Yeah. Thank you, Adam. One isn't this altered off season going to hurt everybody. Now I'm not saying that like veterans who have been in the NFL for three-plus years

are the same as a rookie who's never been in the NFL, but I would imagine that there would be a bit of a curve for those guys because they haven't been playing football, so maybe they're going to not necessarily be in the best shape either. And number two, when you think about a rookie playing in pre-season action how many snaps are they playing especially a running back how many snaps but it's all of it though dave it's it's not just pre-season 30 snaps he played last year the entire spectrum of no off-season limited training camp work no pre-season work and again

it's not like like around i don't know if it's... It's going to ding the rookies. I don't disagree with you. Like Josh Jacobs last year walked into, you knew he was the starter for the Raiders. Yeah. None of these guys are walking into they are the starter for their respective team. Maybe Akers,

just because of the uncertainty there. But after the report that we got today, like Adam Red, he's not guaranteed anything. I wish all the drafts that I took Daryl Henderson in counted because I've taken him in so many drafts. And I believe that he has a chance. And now, so one side is, yeah, the rookies are falling. Let's see where the veterans go.

Let's get into this draft because maybe Damian Williams is going to become, who knows, maybe he's going to become like a fourth-round pick. Let's see. Let's see. All right. So we are. I'm sorry. As the draft goes on, I still take the rookies over the veteran guys.

I don't know how you feel about it, Heath. I think I know how Dave feels. Well, not Dobbins. Not Dobbins, right? I'm not drafting Kerryon Johnson over DeAndre Swift yet. I'm not there. I'm not drafting Mack over Taylor. I'm not there yet.

I'm certainly not drafting Williams over Edward Solaire. But they're closer by leaps and bounds to where I was post-NFL draft, for sure. Okay, but Dobbins is still behind Ingram. Yes. Right, right. That's the easy one. All right, so let's see where they go,

but let's get into this draft here. It's half PPR. We already had a controversial pick, and it was Heath's. Oh, my gosh. The first five picks were pretty easy. McCaffrey, Barkley, Michael Thomas went third. This is half PPR.

Three receivers? Yes. Yeah, three receivers and a flex. All right. So, okay, sorry. McCaffrey, Barkley, Michael Thomas, Kamara, Zeke. Heath took Derrick Henry over Dalvin Cook. Dalvin Cook had, I think, 35 more catches than Henry

in one fewer game. They were almost tied in terms of points per game, almost identical last year. Why did you take Derrick Henry's six instead of Dalvin Cook? Well, I went and looked in this format last year, and they were very close. I believe Derrick Henry was the number two running back and Dalvin Cook was number three on a per game basis. But Derrick Henry is also better the year before, even though he really only had four great games. It's two years in a row

Henry's been better on a per game basis and Henry has not missed this five or six games that Dalvin Cook has over the past two years. So I just had a hard time making the argument for Cook. Okay. I mean, Henry Henry only had six good games last year. What?

Look at his game log. That can't be. Henry had... I think he had like 10 good games. Half PPR. I'll say seven, but I'm looking at like the monster games. He had 27 and a half in week one,

22 and a half in week nine, 31 in week 10, 26 and a half in week 12, 20 and a half in week 13, 22 and a half in week nine, 31 in week 10, 26 and a half in week 12, 20 and a half in week 13, 22 and a half. I mean, some monster games, you know, give him the 39 in week 17 too. I don't know. He seemed pretty consistent. I mean, I remember he didn't really have great games when he didn't

score. He had three games below 10 non-PPR points last year. Yeah, he's really consistent than Cook, but I don't know. The beginning of the season wasn't that great for Derek Henry. I understood. 27 non-PPR points in week one.

You're right. That's not good. No. After that, though. But it was like the first eight games, Derek Henry was like RB10 or something like that. He was good, not great. Right. I thought Henry might go ahead of Cook in non-PPR.

I was surprised to see it in PPR. Half PPR. Half PPPR I was surprised to see it in PPR half PPR I was surprised to see it in half PPR let's keep going in the draft it was Dalvin Cook 7, Joe Mixon Miles Sanders Julio Jones Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill

alright pretty standard round 1 Kenyon Drake first pick of round 2 then Travis Kelsey, Austin Eckler, DeAndre Hopkins, Josh Jacobs, Nick Chubb, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin. That was Heath taking Moore. I took Godwin. Jamie took Kittle. I'm always right in the middle of Jamie and Heath

or Jamie and Dave, two of the three. Oh, every time. It's very strange. Jamie took Kittle. Then Clyde Edwards-Elair. 22 overall. All right. That's bad. No good, right? Too high. I mean, it was okay, like

24 hours ago. I've been slowly delegating him as this process has gone along. Like, he was early round three for me, and I just basically dropped him another half round. Look, we talked on the last podcast about how important upside is and going for upside.

Clyde Edwards-Alaire's upside is what Kareem Hunt did as a rookie. I don't have a problem with taking a late second. Do you think Kareem Hunt would have done that if Spencer Ware had stayed healthy? Yes, because Spencer Ware was not a great running back. Well, we don't know. I think Damian Williams is a better running back than spencer where was but it does i we still haven't seen damian williams put up great numbers consistently and certainly not for very long periods of time in the regular season go back to go i do here's

a homework assignment jamie go back and listen to what you said about edwards allaire when he got drafted i i oh i i him. I hate this guy. You're absolutely right that the upside was there and there's a reason why they took this guy and that he does have great potential. And yeah, you know, it does suck that there's no offseason workouts, but the one position that it's easy to just plop

right into because you're doing the same thing you've been doing since college and high school is running back. But not in pass protection. Not pass protection. Not in the passing game at all. That's fair, but I don't think we were counting on Edward Zolaire to be a great pass protector. Well, he better be, or he's going to be a complete bust in the second round

because he's not getting 15-plus carries a game. He's not getting the work that he needs to prepare for that. That's the problem. And so, again, I'll reference the Miles Sanders conversation. He said it didn't happen for him until the start of training camp. And so there was another back who we didn't think was very good playing in front of him, and it didn't happen until he got hurt. Jamie, six points for passing touchdown?

It's a similar type of offense. I hate to interrupt. Six points for passing touchdown? Yes. All right. Had to take my homes here. I would not have done that if it had been four. Sorry, I want to focus back on the...

Overall, Adam, nice job. Thank you. So, okay, we're midway through round three. The picks are flying off the board. I want to say that the news about no preseason and, yeah, I think it's a downgrade for the rookie running backs got me a little going away from two RBs in the first two rounds. And it's always,

for me, it's always the Aaron Jones conundrum. Do I want to make him my second round pick? Because at that point in the second round, um, when he took DJ more and I took Chris Godwin, Nick Chubb had just gone and Joe Mixon was gone. And he was a first round pick.

Josh Jacobs was gone. So Aaron Jones is next right back. So for me, Heath, I don't know about for you, but for me, it was Godwin. It was Godwin.

For you, it was DJ Moore. But I was deciding between those guys and Aaron Jones. The fact that I feel like I'm going to be able to take Damian Williams in maybe round five or take more of the Mac, maybe round seven or something like that and feel better about my RB depth. It helped me go away from running back.

And I have one running back through three picks, which is really weird for me. But I don't know, man. For me, Heath, it's always like the Aaron Jones conundrum where I just, I couldn't take him over Chris Goblin. You couldn't take him over DJ more. Yeah. I was actually thinking DJ more or George Kittle. So I wasn't really considering a running back at that spot. Like when Chubb went, I kind of felt like we were at a running back. So I wanted to take it that spot. I think like, first off, I'm pretty happy getting Chris Carson in round three, which is what I did here. But I think you're okay if you get one of the, however, top five or six, seven running backs. You get a stud running back in round one, and then you really build great wide receivers, tight ends, maybe

even a quarterback. I think you can play with that number two running back a little bit if you're elite everywhere else and you have one really good running back at the top. All right. Aaron Jones was the last pick of round two. It went Edwards, Elair, then Juju,

then Jones. Here's round three, Evans, Phelan, Cooper cup. Jamie took Ridley. I took my homes. Heath took Carson.

Ben took Jonathan Taylor. I can't wait to get Ben on the show tomorrow. Cause I know he's not going to agree with anything we've said so far. Jonathan Taylor mid-round three. Kenny Galladay to Ben Schrager. It was hard for me to not pick Kenny Galladay, by the way, in round three. Lamar Joe. James Conner.

So I want to talk about James Conner versus Chris Carson in a moment. Lamar Jackson, Todd Gurley, and A.J. Brown. And we're done with three rounds. But I have an email here I'd like to read. Give me a moment. Okay. From JP. It says, Dear Eli, Marshawn, Garian, Denzel,

Jeff, and Damon. Those feel like Ohio State players. I'm not sure. Yeah. Eli Apple, Marshawn Lattimore, Garian Conley. Okay. I'm not sure. Yeah, Eli Apple, Marshall Lattimore, Gary Conley. Okay. I recently took part in a mock draft. I got to the point where I was debating Clyde Edwards, Zlair, James

Connor, and Chris Carson. I ended up taking Edwards, Zlair, but I was grateful it wasn't the real draft because I was not confident in my decision. Can you discuss these three players? CEH, James Connor, and Chris Carson. I think they have very similar upsides. I could see any of the three of them finishing as top 12 running backs.

It's just that Clyde Edwards-Elair is in a more perilous situation. Conner and Carson both have the injury concerns. Clyde Edwards-Elair might not have a starting role on your fantasy team until week five or later. If they all hit, Edwards-Hilaire will be the best of the trio. Big hit. Okay, so how many of them do you feel comfortable taking in round three?

When we've got, look at the wide receivers that went in round three. You've got Evans, Thielen, Kup, Ridley, Galladay, A.J. Brown, and Allen Robinson was the first pick of round four as Chris Towers is on the clock, and he has eight seconds in the second pick of round four, and he's going to auto-pick probably.

Thank you, Chris, which is fine because I need more time here. You've got great wide receivers. Those running backs, who are the running backs that you feel okay with in round three when you're deciding between them and Mahomes and Lamar Jackson in our case? I know they don't fall that far

in other drafts, but the top two quarterbacks and some truly elite wide receivers. You basically named them. Edwards-Hilaire, if he makes it to round three, he'd be a good pick. And I think Carson and Connor, I think you know kind of what the expectation is with them. And then, you know, at least in the case of Carson,

each of the last two years, the production has been great. Connor two years ago was great. He was on pace for a big year last year until he got hurt. They all have their flaws. None of them are perfect. That's why they're going in round three. And in fact, the only reason why they're going in round three is because they're running backs and that position is thin and people are kind of reaching up for them in a perfect world where there's more running backs. I don't know if they'd make it in round three. I think

they'd be closer to round four. I was thrilled to get Connor just now. Thrilled. In round three? So Dave, you're on the clock. Let's look at Dave's team through three rounds. 15. Sorry, Dave. Go ahead. the clock. Let's look at Dave's team through three rounds. 15. Sorry, Dave.

Go ahead. I'll give your team. You have Connor, Miles Sanders, and DeAndre Hopkins. And 10 seconds to make your pick. I've chosen Melvin Gordon over Tyler Lockett. That's three running backs in a half PPR league with three wide receivers and a flex. Yep. That's okay. I can find wide receivers and a flex. Yep, that's okay.

I can find wide receivers later. All right. Listen, I want to have that running back position as locked up as best as I can. I want to feel good about it when I get out of my draft. The fact that it's not full PPR helps me feel better about taking Melvin Gordon, who I don't love. The way I felt about Carson and Connor in round three, it's the way I feel about Melvin Gordon in round four.

I don't love him, but he's a running back who might touch the ball 15 plus times a game. He's in an offense. That's pretty good. Maybe he can come close to the averages that he hit last year. Okay. Heath just picked after. All right,

let me, let me go through round four, Alan Robinson, Robert Woods, Amari Cooper, Melvin Gordon, Odell Beckham, Tyler Lockett. Heath took Mark Andrews, 43rd? 43rd.

Yeah, I took Terry McLaurin. Jamie took David Johnson. Ooh, that's an interesting... Dave, what do you think of that stretch? Because I think Robinson, Woods, Cooper, Gordon, Beckham, Lockett, pretty normal to see them in round four. Then Mark Andrews, Terry McLaurin, David Johnson. Those were our picks.

Heath, me, Jamie. What do you think? It makes me happy to take Melvin Gordon because now I know that running back is really starting to dwindle. And especially in a non-full PPR, David Johnson just doesn't have the same type of appeal in round four that he would for me. All right,

round five, I can settle from there. I don't mind McLaurin here. And I don't mind Andrews here either. I think that Andrews is pretty much going to go in this spot in every single draft and McLaurin look, I mean, until the end of last year,

he was pretty good. And the more that Washington can do to surround their offense with good pass catchers, the more big plays that I think we can expect him to make. I think he's a terrific number two receiver. And look, I don't have a problem with that pick in round four at all. I wonder also, and this may be making too much out of it, but one of the things I thought about this morning was,

like, how much does it matter for Scott Turner with a second-year quarterback in Dwayne Haskins and an inexperienced group like he has in terms of wide receivers? We're going to get to the middle of August before his offense runs plays against an actual defense. Right. That's terrifying. That scares me more than the rookies and them being acclimated.

That doesn't scare me more than the rookies, but it does worry me a little bit with them and Carolina, like where Scott Turner was with Joe Brady and a new quarterback. It's a little bit, they may have a rough start to the year. Not just that too. Cam Newton going to New England, and he hasn't been in the same meeting room as Josh McDaniels. Maybe they've zoomed a few times, but he hasn't been on the field with him. That's for sure.

I think any situation where you've got players who are expected to be impact offensive stars going to new teams, they could be in almost the exact same boat as the rookies with the exception being that they've been around the block in the NFL. They know exactly what training camp is like, what it's like to be on the field and play. So it's not the same thing, but there's still going to be a discomfort level and some growing pains. All right.

I'm going to be kind of a jerk here. Start a little controversy. I feel like Jamie is just like not really picking players. He likes that much. I don't really know. I don't love David Johnson around four and for that and round five. I feel like that you don't really like those picks. I don't really know. I don't love David Johnson in round four and Fournette in round five. I feel like you don't really like those picks.

I don't really like your team. I like him in those spots. I think your team stinks, bro. How can you criticize Leonard Fournette in round five? When do you think Leonard Fournette should be drafted? I don't think you should have taken

David Johnson in round four and Leonard Fournette in round five. Guess what? He's loading up on running backs. Yeah, well, don't load up on running backs if they're not good. You just talked about, Dave, how you were happy to get Melvin Gordon because you just saw a drop off in running back. Well, he's got David

Johnson and Leonard Fournette. None of these guys have shown that they're very good lately. They both could be bad. Well, I mean, they're both in different circumstances than they were in last year. I don't think that if Fournette was coming off the year that he had, and we had the off season that he was dealing with, that he would be falling this far. And really we're more down

on Leonard Fournette than the industry is down on Leonard Fournette. So we're smart. Um, do I, do I love Leonard Fournette? No. Do I love Leonard Fournette's potential in round five? Yes. Well, I don't know. I'm surprised you didn't take like DJ Chark or DK Metcalf or Marquise Brown. I'm the lowest guy, I think, on Leonard Fournette, and that was six spots after I have him ranked. And he was the number seven running back in fantasy,

and he was just drafted in the fifth round. There is zero room to criticize that pick. It's the combination. What does he have to do to return value on a round five pick? If he gets you 1,000 total yards and five or six touchdowns... I'd be shocked if he played 16 games if he's under 1,000 total yards.

Oh, yeah, but he was number nine. If he played 16 games, he doesn't necessarily do that. He was number nine in this format. He had 76 catches, and they just brought in Chris Thompson. The catches are obviously going down. But I'm just saying, like, I don't mind David Johnson and Leonard Fournette separately. I was surprised you took both of them

because I don't feel like you're too enthusiastic about either of them. And there were wide receivers that I know you're enthusiastic about on the board. So I was just surprised that you went with those two running backs back to back. Yeah, you know, plan it out, see what's going to come back to me. All right.

Let's catch up on the draft. Guys that are going to get the type of workload that David Johnson and Leonard Fournette are going to get are not going to come back to me in the next turn. The end of round four, that's fair. The end of round four after David Johnson, Ertz, Le'Veon Bell, Keenan Allen. We're almost done with round five.

Hilton, Sutton. This is going to be a fun wide receiver round. Some good ones. Hilton, Sutton, DeAndre Swift, Fournette. I took Singletary. Jamie took A.J. Green. He took A.J. Green. Ben took Stefan Diggs. Mark Ingram to Ben Schrager.

DK Metcalf to Dave. David Montgomery, Kareem Hunt, Ronald Jones, 60th overall. There he is in round five again. The very end. I'm starting to think it's not a bad move after all. I'm is in round five again. The very end. I'm starting to think it's not a bad move after all. I'm starting to warm up.

Oh, man. Marquise Brown, you are going to be on my team in like seven picks if nobody takes you. Ben takes him before you do. Damian Williams, you are going to be on my team. Heath, I'm telling you who's in my queue. I'm just giving it away. But you're not up for six picks anyway.

So let's give our teams through five picks. Jamie, with the fourth overall pick, what do you got so far? Alvin Kamara, George Kittle, Calvin Ridley, David Johnson, and Leonard Frenette. All right, I have the fourth pick. I have Ezekiel Elliott, Devin Singletary, Patrick Mahomes,

Chris Godwin, and Terry McLaurin. Not in that order, by the way. So Mahomes, Zeke Singletary, Godwin, and McLaurin. You have the fifth pick. I have the sixth pick. Sorry. I have Derek Henry, Chris Carson, DJ Moore, AJ

Green, and Mark Andrews. I got Miles Sanders at ninth overall. Round two, came back DeAndre Hopkins. Round three, James Conner. Round four, Melvin Gordon. And round five, DK Metcalf. I love this start. Love it, love it, love it. That's great, but I have the best team of the four of us.

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Let's see the wide receivers. You need it. Oh, see, this is where taking Patrick Mahomes might sting a little bitty bit. You're right. When you're at a spot, this is how I feel. When you're at a spot where you don't like any running backs, receivers, tight ends,

that's obvious see if there's a value of quarterback take the quarterback and I think Dak is still there I'm guessing they're all there except for the top nice time to take Dak Prescott Wow what

Will Fuller round six 68th overall I would not ever criticize anyone else's pick ever again. Why? Who would you have taken? Well, I'm kind of hoping he comes back to me. Come on. You got to see for the listeners.

I would have taken Devontae Parker over Will Fuller for sure. Yes. You were hoping that Will Fuller could turn into Devontae Parker. You're hoping that Devontae Parker can turn into Preston Williams. I think Preston Williams could play 16 games and Devante Parker still likely to outscore Will Fuller by another 50 fantasy points. All right. I thought I'd get some heat for that. That's fine. I can deal with that. After Fuller, Jamie took Parker, Dak Prescott off the board, Jarvis Landry, Darren Waller, Julian Edelman, Evan Ingram. Are we in the time where you got

to make a decision about tight end now? If you don't have, I know Heath has one. Jamie has one. Dave, you don't have one, right? Don't have one. There might be one in my queue. If you've been listening to our podcast all offseason, you might know who that name is. But yeah, round seven is a great time to start

looking for that tight end. Well, Waller and Ingram are gone, so I'm going to sit it out, Dave. I'm going to wait. I'm going to take a late tight end, I think. Not a bad plan. There are enough intriguing ones to go around. Do you consider Will Fuller and Brandon Cooks a part of the friendship strategy? And why would you prefer Fuller to Cooks? I think Fuller is more familiar with Sean Watson, which counts. I actually moved Fuller up and Cooks down a little bit today. So I agree with that.

But when I did that, they were back-to-back. I'll tell you, yeah. I think either pick would have been justifiable. If you take away both of their rookie seasons, and Fuller's rookie season was with Brock Osweiler. Fuller's actually had a higher yards per target in his career than Brandon Cooks. Well, that's easy.

Fuller has a much higher field. When you have DeAndre Hopkins on the other side and you only catch three or four passes a game, it's easy to have a higher yards per target. Okay, but Brandon Cooks has been in a top five passing offense every year of his career. So let's see what he's, what he does when he's not on that.

I'm sorry. I got to make a pick. God, I hate this. Why wouldn't you take cooks here? No, between the two of them, one should be okay.

Each week. You just have to figure out. Oh, I ran out of time. Jamie. I know who I want. Just back it out. You don't want the Steelers.

I don't want the Steelers. They were auto-picked for you in round seven? Is that not... No, too early. Okay. Too early. I like that pick. I'm going to take J.K. Dobbins here, 77th.

Sorry about that. I think that's a good pick. And he's one... Dobbins is one that I don't really think I will move down again. I'll probably move the other rookies a little bit more because my was ranking it based on a relatively normal training camp. Um, but Dobbins, I didn't really expect to take over until mid season if he does anyway. So I think this is a good spot for him. Michael Gallup is the receiver. I almost took last round two. I would, um round to take a few rounds ahead of Will Fuller.

Great pick. Personally. Yeah, it was a good one. So after Evan Ingram went in this round, round seven, it was Tyler Higbee. Jamie took Russell Wilson. I took the Steelers,

but then I really took J.K. Dobbins. Heath took Michael Gallup. Ben took Kyler Murray. Yeah. And the other Ben Trager took Marlon. Oh, Marlon Mack is still on. Oh. What the other Ben Trager took Mar... Oh, Marlon Mack is still on the... Oh.

What the hell? How did I miss him? That's who I should have taken instead of Dobbins. I am sorry about that. Dave took Hunter Henry. You apologize. I think it's your deal.

You apologize. Well. Apologizing to his soul. To the listeners. Sorry, listeners. It's very tough to host and draft. Built-in excuses, though.

Those are good. Marvin Jones off the board after Dave took Hunter Henry. I got an email I want to read here. It's about Devin Singletary, who I took in round five. It is from Mitch. Subject, Devin Singletary, ultimate Acer stat. Now, this is an ultimate Acer stat because it's a sample size thing, and it was actually incorrect.

If you take Devin Singletary's last nine games and give him a 16 game pace, you get 256 carries. He had 1,125 yards. It was actually 1,175 yards. That's 4.6 yards per carry plus 53 catches and 430 yards. The only

players to rush for at least 1,000 yards above 4.5 yards per carry, and catch at least 50 passes since 2018 are Dalvin Cook, Zeke, McCaffrey, Gurley, and Barkley. And so he's saying Singletary did that, basically, in his last nine games. He was on that pace. He wasn't.

He was close, but he was only on pace for 46 catches and 377 yards. But he did finish really strong. And by the way, that includes the postseason, that one playoff game where he had a lot of catches. Yeah, what do you think about that? You know, for me, it was Singletary versus, like, David Montgomery, Mark Ingram.

Thoughts on Singletary this year? Could he rise to the top of that tier? He gets more attractive with the lack of work that Zach Moss is going to get. So, you know, again, it's a lot of the same conversation that I think Singletary is going to walk in as the leader of the running back group. Will he finish as the leader?

That's the question you have to ask yourself. And so the lack of work for Moss is going to, you know, probably take hold until maybe the middle of the season. So Singletary could be another guy that gets you off to a good start. By the way, we're about to reach the point in the draft where we're in round eight where the rookie wide receivers typically go.

Are we being hard on the rookie wide receivers too, dropping them? They always get off to slow starts for the most part anyway. This is going to hurt them even more. Kind of like a Dobbins situation. I probably won't move them as much as I've moved the early guys,

but there'll be a little dip. Okay. All right, so let's catch up on some of the latest picks here. After Will Fuller and Michael Gallup, or no, sorry, after J.K. Dobbins and Michael Gallup, it was Kyler Murray, Marlon Mack, Hunter Henry, Marvin Jones, Brandon Cooks,

and Deontay Johnson to finish round seven. Keyshawn Vaughn. And I think that Bomber also took Ronald Jones, so he has both Bucks backs. That's nice. Christian Kirk. Not to Ben, by the way. Darius Geis.

Dave took Darius Slayton. Ooh, Darius and Darius back-to-back. That's cool. Hayden Hurst to strategy B. Deebo Samuel to Ben Gretsch. And Heath is on the clock. Let's take a look at Heath's team, ladies and gentlemen. Heath has no quarterback.

Derrick Henry and Chris Carson. A.J. Green, D.J. Moore, Michael Gallup, Mark Andrews, and his flex is Damian Williams. Let's see if he sticks with the not going to take a rookie theme. Although by round eight, I think you can. There's not a rookie. I'm going to go ahead and do this. I feel like my receiving core is long on upside, but short on floor.

And so Jamison Crowder is probably the number one wide receiver for the jets was on a pretty great pace with Sam Darnold last year, that slot wide receiver, generally the most prominent piece of an Adam Gase offense. And I feel like he doesn't have a lot upside, but I'll be fine plugging him in, in a given week for one of those wide receivers. Okay.

Anything you guys want to add about the draft? And add it to the running back depth. Henry and Carson are studs. No question about it. And if you want to handcuff them later, you could. Damian Williams, I know you guys like him better than I do, but I still would have gone. Zach Moss would

have been my pick here to add to that running back group. Do you think I should take him as the Singletary owner over Kerryon Johnson? Absolutely could. I'm not going to. No. I don't think that's one of those

premier handcuff situations. Jamie takes Sterling Shepard. I'm going to do a points per game segment next week. Sterling Shepard. I'm going to do a points per game segment next week. Sterling Shepard. What was the stat I had? Sterling Shepard averaged more points per game than Cortland Sutton, I believe. I think it's the seven games he played with Daniel Jones.

He was 14.6 PPR points per game. And in six of those, he had nine or more targets. Wow. That's a pretty good stat. 13.6 PPR overall for Shepard. Okay, so this is round eight. Still no

rookie receivers. All right, Keyshawn Vaughn, Christian Kirk, Darius Geis, Darius Slayton, Hayden Hurst, Deebo Samuel, Jamison Crowder, Daryl Henderson, Sterling Shepard, Zach Moss, Tariq Cohen. Anybody want to comment on their teams? How the draft

has gone so far for you? Love my quarterback so far. Do you have one? No. That was an interesting turn Marone just did. Ooh, I don't like it. I do. You don't like it in round eight and nine? Nope. It's a waste of a pick. Howard and

Brita? Why? He's got one number two running back. Dude, like the Dolphins, the Dolphins, they're not going to be good. If they're really going to split, like you need one of those players. He took Howard and Brita. You need one of them to emerge.

Like if they're splitting in the Dolphins backfield, you're not going to like it. But you're, I mean, you're basing it on what they were a year ago when they had Patrick Laird and Miles Gaskin running the ball. I're basing it on what they were a year ago when they had Patrick Laird and Miles Gaskin running the ball. I'm basing it on the fact that they went out and got Jordan Howard and Matt Breida. I think they like both of them

and they're going to use both of them. Don't you dare to leave Kalen Balazs out of this. I don't know. I don't mind taking the shot on the starter for a team this late in the draft and maybe both are useful in half PPR. Why not take Kerryon Johnson? Kerryon Johnson will probably get

seven touches per game by October. You know what? Honestly... I'm sorry. He won't. He'll be hurt. I should apologize. I was kind of having fun with it. It wasn't bad. Just trying to spice things up. Okay.

So Marone takes the two dolphins guys at the eight, nine turn. Then James White goes, then we are waiting for Tommy Tran to make a pick and then it'll be Jamie on the clock. Um, I want to promote a few things while we have a moment. You can watch us on YouTube,

youtube.com slash fantasy football today. And get ready for baseball. Garrett Cole versus Max Scherzer on Thursday. All week long, the Fantasy Baseball Today crew is getting you ready for the 60-game sprint and everything you need to know for week one matchups. And you can find Fantasy Baseball Today on Apple on apple podcasts spotify or wherever you like to enjoy listening to podcasts um all right question from stewart who do you think is going to fill the melvin gordon role won't quite be the melvin gordon role but who do you prefer guys josh kelly or justin jackson josh kelly for me even though he's a rookie yeah i'll take jackson but i don't feel strongly about it i wouldn't be surprised if it's one guy for a few weeks

and another guy at a different time. Kelly by October. All right, Philip Lindsay off the board, then Jamie took Kerryon Johnson. The rookie wide receivers have really got to go soon. But, yeah,

I'm going to take Anthony Miller. I need a good thing. Oh, you're going friendship? Oh, you went Tevin Coleman. Yeah, let's I'm going to take Anthony Miller. I think it's good. Thanks. You take. Oh, you're going friendship. Oh, you went to heaven. Coleman. You should have obvious one. I was back and forth between Coleman and carry on Johnson.

I was just hoping one of them made it back and then I feel fine with taking Crowder last round. Okay, because I thought maybe you have Michael Gallup. Heath. I thought maybe you'd go with CD lamp. If if Tevin Coleman and carry on Johnson had both been gone, then I would have taken CD them. Okay. Well,

Ben Gretsch did instead right after you. So Tevin Coleman goes, when did most dirt go? Um, five, five, five, maybe.

Sounds right. Adam. Yes. Oh, Dave's on the clock. It's around nine. Look at the quarterbacks who are left. Josh Allen, Tom Brady,

Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Carson Wentz. Do you still feel super great about taking Mahomes where you did? Yeah, look. These guys are going to continue to tumble? You have to know that. No, you have to know. It happens every draft.

If you're going to draft Patrick Mahomes, you just have to know. Round That's like a little bit of remorse. No, you have to know. It happens every draft. If you're going to draft Patrick Mahomes, you just have to know. Round six for Mostert. Okay, so round six for Mostert, round nine for Coleman. But yeah, you have to accept that you're missing out on quarterback value later. And I'm fine with it.

Mahomes is Mahomes. Dave took Antonio Gibson. Ooh, 105th overall, Antonio Gibson. Yes, sir. Interesting. I talked about him on CBS Sports HQ on Tuesday, and he apparently liked what I said. He retweeted it.

Nice. What a suck-up. Are you waiting for Heath to like what you said about him at the start of the show? Just flattering everybody? I've already retweeted it. Rob Gronkowski goes, we're waiting for the end of round nine here.

I'm going to pick a team at random and then we're going to dissect it. Let's pick Shraggy B. Why not Gretch? Okay, Shraggy's fine. I think we know Ben's team. Yeah, come on. He hasn't picked Stafford yet. Wait, hold on. Do Shragger's team and then I have no idea what Ben's team is, but you'll pull

it up and see if I get it. Okay, okay. Schrager's got Mixon and Jacobs, Galladay, Beckham, and Tyler Boyd. Mark Ingram at flex, Hayden Hurst at tight end. Plus, Sonny Michel and Marlon Mack on the bench. Ooh, I like this team. It's a good squad. I do, too.

This is my favorite squad yet in a mock. Yeah, this is really good, man. You went very running back heavy, but you still have Gallaudet, Beckham, Boyd. That's really good. And Hayden Hurst. So you'll take advantage of that quarterback depth. All right, Ben Gretsch's team. Jamie, you are on the clock.

The one I did see him take, Kyler Murray. He's got Kyler Murray. And he had the seventh pick right after Heath. Jonathan Taylor. Is on his team, yep. Uh-huh. And he had the seventh pick right after Heath. Jonathan Taylor. Is on his team, yep. Dalvin Cook. Correct. Well, you know his rounds one and three picks.

Who was round two? Oh, three is AJ Brown. No, three was Taylor. Oh, three was Taylor. I'm sorry. Who was round two? Round two, well, Heath took DJ Moore. So who did he pass?

Who did he take over DJ Moore? Kelsey? No. Nick Chubb. Oh, Chubb fouled him? Okay. Who are his three wide receivers? His three wide receivers. I know he took Marquise Brown.

There's one. What is very Gretchen? Stephon Diggs. Yep. And who's the third one? What is very Gretchen? Stephon Diggs. Yep. And who's the third one? Is it Christian Kirk? Has he taken him yet?

No, Chris Towers took him. He has Tyler Lockett. Oh. And he also has Debo and CeeDee Lamb on the bench. It's a lot of ease. It's wasting a little bit. Yeah, so Kyler Murray, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Tyler Lockett, Stephon Diggs, Marquise Brown, Jonathan Taylor at Flex.

No tight end yet. Debo Samuel and CeeDee Lamb on the bench. All right, Austin Hooper's off the board. Mike Kosicki's off the board. Ballmer just took two tight ends on the turn. That's weird. Right? Why did he do that?

Yeah, I think like weird or real real weird i know that i do think like if this was a league we were playing out and it had our stand our standard waiver rules and we can't make sunday ads you probably need to draft two quarterbacks and two tight ends i guess that's fine but would you do it with picks nine and ten or wouldn't you wait a few rounds well i don't have a great one later. Like those are kind of dark. Those are pretty good dart throws.

Um, I don't have a lot of confidence in either though. I've really started to like John who Smith a lot more. I might have to take him here, but this is where you look at the roster grid and see who needs a tight end. Oh, 10 people have tight end. So I'm going to wait.

All right. Heath just took Alan Lazard. That was after Dave took drew breeze. Schrager took John Brown. Oh, 10 people have tight ends, so I'm going to wait. All right, Heath just took Alan Lazard. That was after Dave took Drew Brees. Schrager took John Brown. Ben Gretsch took Alexander Madison, and he has Dalvin Cook, so getting Madison 114th overall is pretty good. Let's see.

We still have Josh Kelly. We have A.J. Dillon. We have Rykel Armstead. Some good running backs there. Oh, we have a lot of rookie. All right, it's time for rookie wide receivers here. I got to go with Justin Jefferson. Greatest player of all time? You know it.

All right, Jamie. Jamie with, let's take a look at Jamie's team. Russell Wilson. So Jamie has Wilson and Kittle. That's a top five quarterback, a top two tight end. Kamara, David Johnson, Calvin Ridley, Devante Parker, Sterling Shepard, Leonard Fournette at flex, Kerryon Johnson on the bench. And?

Oh, you want me to pick? I do. No, I'm going to take Jalen Rigger. Cool. Cool. All right, so it's just a good time for the rookie wide receivers. I mean, I'm used to seeing them go in round eight. We're here in round 10. Let's take a look at Heath's team through 10 rounds.

No quarterback. Henry and Carson. So half PPR, maybe 55 catches combined for them. Something like that. What do you think? Henry and Carson, is that, is that okay with you?

That seems like, uh, that's exactly what they had last year. Oh, seems like a good guess. I probably, probably should have picked exactly what they had last year, but okay.

In the ballpark. But is that okay with you? And half PPR? Yeah, it's perfect. Like I said, I'm pretty sure Derek Henry on a per game basis was the number two running back in this format last year. He was. I don't think people expect him to do it again, though.

Well, that's why he was available at the number six pick and not the number two pick. Okay. Well, he was available at two. You have DJ Moore, AJ Green and Michael Gallup, Mark Andrews at tight end, he was available at two. You have DJ Moore, AJ Green, and Michael Gallup. Mark Andrews at tight end. Damian Williams at flex. Your bench has Jamison Crowder, Tevin Coleman, and Alan Lazard.

You like it? I like it quite a bit. Yeah, I kind of regret the Andrews pick a little bit. But again, I think the receivers are a little bit short on floor, but I like the upside. All right. We got so three rookie wide receivers in a row. Jefferson to me, Rager to Jamie,

Henry Ruggs to Tommy, then Josh Allen and Tom Brady are picked. Now, Dave, I wonder why you took Breeze. There's a chance that by the time you get your next pick, maybe not Breeze, but maybe Carson Wentz

or Matt Ryan still on the board. Did you think all those guys, are we about to see a tight quarterback run? Are we in the middle of one? I think we're in the middle of one because I took Breeze

and now Josh Allen, Tom Brady are gone. And I would imagine at least one more from Ryan Stafford and Wentz will go off the board. I like Brady or Brady. I like Breeze the best of that bunch and was really thrilled to take him in

round 10. I think I'm going to wait on quarterback unless, unless I come down with my homes in round three or Lamar Jackson around three. I think I'm going to, I guess I can't say that for sure because if Dak is there in round six or Russell Wilson in round six, I guess, I guess the, what I should say is I think it's right to play the value game with

quarterback and if you reach you lose with quarterback this year you just can't do it so as long as you're getting a good value you feel like it's a great value on your pick for the quarterback take it does it often come down to I've been saying for years does it often come down to the other players, the non-quarterbacks who are there? Sure. We talked about this earlier in this draft. If you're looking at the running backs, receivers,

and tight ends that are there, and they all stink and gravitating toward a quarterback, that's probably going to be their move. But if there's a couple of receivers you like or a tight end, maybe there's a need you have in one of those positions, you'll take that over quarterback. There will always be a quarterback available in you like or a tight end. Maybe there's a need you have in one of those positions. You'll take that over quarterback. There will always be a quarterback available in a one quarterback league for you to take and feel really good about always.

I really feel. Jamie, are you going to take the Sean Jackson little friendship there? No, I am. I'm taking a lottery ticket running back here. So there's, uh, three guys, I guess, that are mine. Uh, neither of them got picked. So I'm going to take the one I have Frank the highest, which is Chase Edmonds. So if something happens to Kenya Drake, Chase Edmonds will be an absolute star and Edmonds

may play a little bit, uh, alongside of Drake as well. Yeah. alongside of Drake as well. Yeah, look, I can't get political on this or anything, but I won't draft Deshaun Jackson in a real draft. I'm going to take him here. And I think you guys are too low on him. You know, what do you think about that? Yeah, I don't think it's political.

If he plays 16 games games we're probably way too low on him for sure um another guy that i kind of think when we talk about the lottery ticket running backs we don't really ever consider him one but he certainly was in the limited opportunity last year i'm gonna take latavius murray oh yeah i mean that probably would have made more sense for me given the fact that I have Kamara, but... I have Edmunds ranked higher, too. Who's the jerk that took Tony Pollard? Chris Towers?

I don't know. Gretch took Boston Scott, though. That's who I was going to take here. All right. So round 11 is apparently a handcuffed round, but if you have a great running back... If you have Zeke, if you have Cook, you might have to go earlier than that. Matt Ryan off the board of Ben. So let's see, did it work out? Who are the quarterbacks left? Yeah, I don't know if you would have gotten Drew Brees

or Matt Ryan or, you know. You made a good job. You made a good pick. But Ryan probably still would have been there. Okay. Well, it's a little risky to just have one left. So, Dave, you did a good job in the last round. You're on the clock right now.

Hey, go me. Way to go. What are you going to do? I'm going with AJ, don't call me Corey Dillon. And hoping that Aaron Jones regresses, which is going to be pretty obvious that he will. He can't score a touchdown every game, can he? Can he?

Josh Kelly off the board. Brandon Ayuk off the board. You guys let me know if there are any very noteworthy picks here as we get to round 12 of this. Ayuk is so interesting because, again, rookie, but could be stepping into just a tremendous role if you don't have Debo Samuel there. I'm really curious what's going to happen with the veteran receivers

in San Francisco if Debo is out because Kendrick Bourne and Trent Taylor, are these guys going to have an opportunity to step up if he's not ready to go? You think Jalen Hurd's ready? Jalen Hurd's another one, yeah. It's a good call. Ante Pettis still exists, right? Yeah. He's still on the roster.

There's been some reports out of San Francisco about Bourne. I picked him up in a dynasty league. He was just sitting there just to see what happens because, again, he scored some touchdowns for the offense last year. Somebody's going to have to catch passes. It's not just going to be George Kittle, then they're going to run all day if Samuel misses the start of the season. Darrington Evans and Carson Wentz.

And Carson Wentz at the start of round 12 is ridiculous. Yeah, so actually maybe, Dave, you shouldn't have taken Breeze. It's all right. No, you never know how it's going to work out. You can't second-guess every pick. Well, Dave, didn't you know that Drew Breeze is not going to play well because there's going to be no fans in New Orleans?

That's right. You're going to need somebody to start in his home games. I can guess Ben's next pick. Oh, Stafford. Or maybe you can. I'll wait until Dave picks, so I won't put it in his head. He's already

in my queue if it's who you're thinking. Is it this guy? No. Oh, you took Brees and Stafford, huh? That's right. And the Kill Harry. Oh, Schrager takes the Kill Harry. That's tough. He could have Chenault here, though. He could take Chenault.

He took Hawkinson. So, I'm assuming Jamie with Kittle and Heath with Andrews will not be taking back up tight. Oh, Heath, you son of a... You will not be taking back up tight. Oh, Heath actually just took the tight end. I was about to draft.

Well, you said so earlier in the show. Yeah. Are you doing this just the best with me, Damian Williams, Johnny Smith? He smiled when you said that. Yeah. But again, I said it just a few minutes ago i do think it's true if you're playing if you're drafting in a league where you're not going to have sunday free agency then you need to have two tight ends and two quarterbacks okay i also think you know

we we do a lot of drafts a lot of the same people and a lot of the same player pools the guys that we're we're taking from so we like, I I've done now, I think it's three drafts with random users. I do this all the time where I just, you know, jump into a draft room and with 11 other people. And, you know, you see the, the people that are taking two quarterbacks and how early they're doing it and, and two tight ends and how early they're doing it and loading up on certain players that we may not even be drafting. So there's a little bit of a difference there when, you know, we know almost every player that we're all going to take.

True. So did you make your last pick, Jamie? No, I just took Stephen. I was going to take him. I was about to give a stat about Stephen Sims. Yeah, I was like, because I have McLaurin. He had seven or more targets in each of his last four games. Had a lot of work down the stretch. Seven, 11, 10, and eight targets. I've been saying it for a while. It's a good opportunity.

He has a chance to be the slot receiver there. We'll see if it's Cody Latimer or Antonio Gandy-Golden on the outside. I'm excited for Gandy-Golden as well. But I think Sims, he's got a rapport with Haskins, and we'll see what the coaching staff does if they change things around for him. 16.5 PPR points per game in those last four. And I think he's got the leg up, like Jamie said, on the slot receiver role. Love him in the late rounds. Yeah, and I think it makes even more sense if you have McLaurin. Jamie said on the slot receiver role. Love him in the late rounds. Yeah.

And I think, you know, it makes even more sense that you have McLaurin. I don't mind. I should have taken Sims where it took Stafford. And then I would have been able to get another quarterback later. Oh yeah. You would have,

you would have been able to get like Daniel Jones or Jared golf or somebody like that. That's what I should have done. The question is like, I think Jared golf is so good and so undervalued, but I have my homes. Should I take them? I don't understand you.

Like there's sometimes you're talking about drafting three quarterbacks and then there's times where you're like, we've got a legitimate pandemic and we may find out Sunday morning, your quarterback is not going to play and you're not sure if you should have a backup quarterback or not. Well, because Heath, like there's going to be players on the waiver wire.

You know, there'll be quarterbacks on the waiver wire. I could tell, but we have two rounds left. We have three rounds left and most people still have to take a DST. So we have essentially two picks left. I don't think everybody's taking a second quarterback. All right. If you were not factoring in the pandemic

and you had Patrick Mahomes, you would not take a second quarterback. I would not. No. Yeah, I probably wouldn't either. All right, let's see some recent picks. Golden Tate, Baker Mayfield, the Steelers DST for real. Anthony McFarland.

And we are waiting for Tommy right now. We're in round 13, ladies and gentlemen, of a 15-round draft. Michael Pittman also went before Golden Tate. Got to get little Paris Campbell in my queue. Who are some guys you're excited to take at this point? If Tommy doesn't take him, I'm going to take Rykel Armstead, which will work out well as the Fournette owner to get him this late. There you go.

Heath, who are you excited to take? I'm going to draft a couple of quarterbacks, and I'm very, very thankful that Tommy took Aaron Rodgers because he was my top rated quarterback. I'm probably just going to have to change that because there's like four quarterbacks behind him that I wanted to draft over him. Dave?

Oh, I'm on the clock. I hate everybody that's left. Oh, it's not true. There's a couple of players that are interesting. Noah Fant is still on the board. Oh, no. Noah, he is not. Noah Fant was on the board.

He is on my team now. I don't know why you're not more excited about Blake Darwin after what we talked about yesterday. Who, me? Yeah. Yeah, targets are certainly there for him. Yeah. Look, it's tough to play the target game

and say there are this many targets available. That's contingent on the Cowboys throwing the same amount of times they threw last year. Mari Cooper, not getting more targets. Michael Gallup, not getting more targets.

You think Cooper and caliber going to get more targets with lamb and, and I look, I maybe, I think more likely Cooper. Um, it's, he didn't even have 120 targets. Did he number one wide receiver,

like a true number one usually would. Well, he had one game with zero, I think. Yeah. Or one. He also played through an injury last year. Typically, he misses sometimes when he gets hurt. Yeah. I don't know.

I'm not that excited. What did you say? He could be top 12? I think that. I just don't think he could be great. Jarwin, that is. All right. Let's see. Daniel Jones to Ben Shrack. Oh, sorry. Iwin, that is. All right. Let's see. Daniel Jones to

Ben Schrag... Oh, sorry. I missed a few picks. Cam Newton to Heath. Blake Jarwin to Ben Gretch. Daniel Jones to Ben Schrager. Dave takes Prashad Perryman. RJ White takes Justin Jackson. Are you adjusting your rankings and putting Cam over Rodgers? I will be adjusting my rankings

and putting Cam over Rodgers, I think. All right, we can end it with this pick here from Andrew Ballmer to finish out round 13 and only two picks, two rounds left. We'll start with Jamie's team. Jamie had the fourth pick.

How did it turn out, Jamie? I like it a lot. I mean, you know, I think you had the sentiment, right, that I'm not thrilled about guys like David Johnson and Leonard Fournette. Neither are your kids. I'm sorry? Neither are your kids. I know.

My two-year-old is screaming. The value where I got them. You know, David Johnson is going to be so interesting because I think if he's healthy. We saw Carlos I crawl his way to 1,000 yards, and David Johnson was still better in the passing game last year. I think we give him credit for. So is it really that he's done or was he just a bad fit for Cliff Kingsbury's offense?

And so I think the offensive line is going to play behind slightly better than when he played behind last year. And I don't think based on the way they used Duke Johnson last year, that they're going to necessarily try and force Duke Johnson on the field, even in passing situations. So if Johnson play, David Johnson plays 16 games, I think round four could end up being a steal. And again, I think these two guys in particular industry wise, we're probably a little bit lower on than, than the rest of the community, fancy community. So for net, same thing, you know,

his workload is going to be reduced in the passing game, but I also don't think he's going to score only three touchdowns. So round five for a guy that should be featured back, getting Rykel Armstead makes it a little bit better. I'm not a big Devontae Parker fan either, but to get him where I get him was thrilled about that. The rest of the group,

Ridley and Kittle, I think are very good players in their respective positions. Wilson, Kamara, David Johnson, Ridley, Parker, and Shepard, Kamara, David Johnson, Ridley, Parker, and Shepard, Kittle,

and the Flex's Fournette with some, with a pretty good bench as well. I had the next pick, the fifth pick in the draft, and I took Ezekiel Elliott. My team is Mahomes, Zeke,

Devin Singletary, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, and Will Fuller, Jared Cook at tight end, J.K. Dobbins at flex, although that's more likely to be Deshaun Jackson or Anthony Miller, maybe Daryl Henderson. I think Dobbins is kind of a stash and play. So that's my bench plus Noah fan, Justin Jefferson, and Paris Campbell, who I just selected. And Heath had the... My team sucks. Heath has the next pick.

It does suck. He loved it so much at the beginning. Fell apart. Fell apart. It did get worse. I've got the absolute dream team at quarterback, Cam Newton and Gardner Minshew, winning all the style points.

Running back starters are Derek Henry and Chris Carson. I also have Damian Williams, Tevin Coleman, Latavius Murray, my wide receivers. I've got DJ Moore, AJ Green and Michael Gallup on the bench. I've got Jamison Crowder and Alan Lazard. And then I have Mark Andrews and Jonu Smith at tight end. Yeah, not so good either. I'm surprised you didn't do a little handcuffing there, Adam, with Malcolm Brown. I'm not.

Yeah. I'm just, I don't have it today. I just don't have it. I'm terrible at this. Dave, you had the ninth pick. Yeah. Sanders was my pick at ninth overall. I'll just run down the team lineup style.

Breeze, a quarterback. Got him around 10. Love that. James Conner, Miles Sanders are the top two running backs. Hopkins, Metcalf, Chark. What a trio at wide receiver. I love that. Hunter Henry at tight end.

Melvin Gordon is in my flex. On my bench, I've got Darius Slayton, A.J. Dillon, Antonio Gibson, along with Steve Sims and Daniel Jones. Thank you very much. That's what I wish I had. You have Steve Sims? No. I should have taken Steve

Sims when I did take Matthew Stafford. I should have taken him then. I didn't. I took Stafford and I paid for it by drafting for Shutterland. I do have the Ravens DST though. Ooh, nice. Fancy.

Alright, not bad. I got one pick left. Don't know what I'm going to do with it. Let's see who has the best team. I'll be the judge. The guy who has the worst team is going to judge the best team. The guy who says he doesn't have it today is now going to judge. Shrager based on the start, right?

Yeah, probably. Shrager's pretty good. Shrager's the winner. He's got Matt Ryan and Daniel Jones, Josh Jacobs, Joe Mixon, Galladay, Beckham, and Boyd, Hayden Hurst at tight end. The flex is going to be either

Marlon Mack or Mark Ingram. Marlon Mack, Sonny Michelle, Ian Thomas, John Brown, and Nikhil Harry on the bench. It's really good, Ben. Ben Schrager, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks. At least I had it today unlike somebody. The new host good, Ben. Ben Schrager, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks. At least I had it today

unlike somebody. The new host of the show, Ben Schrager. Well. I think you got to give Tommy Tran's team a little bit of love. Well, let's do it, Dave. Let's do it. Tommy Tran. Back at quarterback. His running backs are Edwards, Hilaire, Swift

and Moss. So he went young at running back. He's not believing what we were talking about earlier in the show. Michael Thomas at wide receiver is pretty good. Cooper Cup at wide receiver is really good. Ruggs is behind him along with Pittman, Michael Pittman, Robbie Anderson, Van Jefferson. I don't know why.

Ertz and Higby, dual tight end kablamo. He could use them both if he wants to. I don't like this team at all. You might need to start one of those tight ends at running back the first half of the season. and Kablamo. He could use them both if he wants to. I don't like this team at all. He might need to start one of those tight ends at running back. I do not like this team at all. Well, you know what? I'm not in the same camp of thinking as you guys are.

I don't mind taking a rookie. I didn't realize the scope of this team. I hate it. I like it. I think it's a good team. I like Tommy. He's a nice guy think it's a good team. I like Tommy. He's a nice guy. Oh, he's a very nice guy. The fact that you have to start the three rookies is

terrible. Yeah, and it's not even like he has three stud receivers. He has two, but Henry Ruggs is his third. I do like the fact that he drafted two tight ends that are like elite tight ends and they both have the same bi-week

hurts and Higby Higby's is flex right now. I mean, that's just wild. Oh, Dave, any other crappy teams we should give some love to yours, Adam? Yeah, we can look at mine again. What went wrong with my team? I don't know. Just Will Fuller in round six. We can start there. We'll see. We'll see about that. I don't have. Will Fuller in round six. We can start there. We'll see. We'll see about that. I don't have a problem with Will Fuller there.

I thought it was a good pick. I think my team would be better once I... Because I looked at it, I saw Dobbins at flex, but I didn't draft him to be my flex.

You would have felt better if you had Marlon Mack, right? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for listening. We will talk to you

on Thursday with another episode and I will try to have it for that episode want to thank Ben Schrager and his awesome team

Dave, Jamie, Heath Tommy Chin is a terrible team don't tell him I said that and I'm Adam we'll talk to you Thursday see you later

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